Editing Video games

Video games are games played with an electronic device, instead of paper, pens, dice, boards, anything traditional, and most of the time omitting your imagination too. It is also true that they do contain amusing game mechanics, can be easily played alone, provide visual and auditory representation, and don't [[Games Workshop|cost hundreds of dollars for a few miniature visual representations]]; however, this does come at the cost of freedom, physical being, social skills, and imagination.

Many traditional or tabletop games (like WH40K and D&D) can now be played as using electronic devices to substitute for their tactile components like maps or minis, proving once again that technology continues to screw up [[Old School Roleplaying|everything that we all wished had remained as it was.]] A [[VASSAL Game Engine|virtual tabletop simulator]] has been released so you may play a tabletop game with friends out of town.

Electronic games played by strange, [[what|electronic fa/tg/uys]] have been accepted by /tg/, so that any game can be traditional, and this media fits right in with the old [[Board Game|board games]] and Tabletop [[Wargame]]s we all know and love.  Some video games are accepted and enjoyed by /tg/.  Many, however, are not.  Generally, video game threads, especially games with no corresponding /tg/ version/interest, belong on /v/ instead.

You'll find quite a few /v/ related articles on 1d4chan because some video games have at least some relation to /tg/ and because 1d4chan tends to draw in people who are fans of WH40K universe primarily through [[Dawn of War]], even if these people don't actually play the tabletop game. And lets be honest here, 1d4chan is as much a page for WH40K fans as it is for fa/tg/uys so these people are certainly welcome here.

== Strategy Games ==
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* Simulation/Sandbox Games
** '''[[Dwarf Fortress]]'''
** '''From The Depths'''
** '''Kerbal Space Program'''
** '''Medieval Engineers'''
*** '''Space Engineers'''
** '''[[Minecraft]]''', for some odd reason.
** '''Mount and Blade''', it's expandalone Warband, and the new Bannerlord 2. A sandbox medieval setting, you go around either being a bandit or uniting the scattered kingdoms into a grand empire or whatever. Enormous modding community means finding something thematically different if you want, including Warhammer and historical mods.
** '''Rimworld''', Kind of like a Modern Dwarf fortress in space. With references to Warhammer 40k, Star trek and star wars Aplenty. 
** '''[[Space Station 13]]''' 
** '''[[Terraria]]''', for the same odd reason.
** '''[[Tabletop Simulator]]''', a virtual tabletop for playing Card Games, Board Games, RPGs, etc. online with friends. The game has multiple built-in tools for creating custom games, and the Steam Workshop has thousands of add-ons; a popular choice for playing WH40K online thanks to ripped assets from Dawn of War.

* 4X Strategy:
** '''Age of Wonders'''
** '''Civilization I-VI''' - Civilization actually was based on a board game and in a case of coming full circle, ended up creating it's own board game.  
** '''[[Disciples]]''' (series) - Heroes of Might and Magic made [[Grimdark]].
** '''[[Heroes of Might and Magic]]''' - Turn based strategy of over six main games and expansions where you control a fantasy hero and their legion of men/elves/dwarves/creatures/etc. Special mention goes to second and third installments.
** '''Masters of Orion'''
** '''[[Alpha Centauri|Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri]]'''
** '''Sins of a Solar Empire'''

* Real-time Strategy
** '''Age of Empires''' series
** '''[[Command and Conquer]]''', a franchise with more then four different series running at the time where you control varied forces trying to beat the crap out of each other.
** '''Company of Heroes''' and '''Men of War Assault Squad 2'''
** '''[[Dominions]]'''
** '''Dungeon Keeper'''
** '''Homeworld''' series
** '''Original War'''
** Paradox series: '''[[Crusader Kings]]''', '''[[Europa Universalis]]''', '''[[Victoria]]''' or '''Hearts of Iron'''
*** [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406933979 Warhammer: Geheimnisnacht], a Warhammer Fantasy conversion for Crusader Kings II. Setting predates Winds of Chaos & End Times.
** '''Rise of Nations''' and especially '''Rise of Legends'''
** '''[[Starcraft]]''' and '''[[Warcraft]]''': [[Skub|40K and Fantasy rip-offs respectively]]
** '''Supreme Commander'''
** '''Total Annihilation'''

* Turn-based Strategy
** '''[[Advance_Wars| Advance Wars]]''', Japanese so expect some typical [[Anime]] heroes and [[Weeaboo]] fanboys. Except for '''Days of Ruin'''; that is [[Grimdark]] and thus [[Fist of the North Star|manly]].
** '''Fire Emblem TBS''' - Advance Wars' twin brother who likes swords and magic rather than guns and tanks.
** '''Jagged Alliance''', A PMC is you!
** '''King of Dragon Pass''' 
** '''Master of Magic'''
** '''[[Total War]]''' series: '''Rome Total War''', '''Medieval Total War''', '''Empire Total War''', '''Shogun Total War''' 
*** Rome 1 mods: '''Call to Arms: Warhammer''' and '''Fourth Age Total War''' and Medieval 2 mods: '''[[Call of Warhammer]]''', '''Third Age Total War'''
** '''Valkyria Chronicles''' series - JRPG fantasy world version of World War II. Quite a bit of depth and supporting cast of characters.
** The original '''[[X-Com|X-COM: UFO Defense]]'''
** The new '''[[X-Com|X-COM: Enemy Unknown]]''' and its sequel, '''XCOM 2'''

== Role Playing Games ==
*cRPGs
** '''Albion'''
** '''[[Arcanum]]: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura''' 
** '''[[Baldur's Gate]] I''' & '''II'''
** '''Betrayal at Krondor'''
** '''Deus Ex''' series 
** '''[[The Elder Scrolls]]''' Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind only
** '''[[Fallout]]''' series
** '''[[Icewind Dale]]'''
** '''[[Neverwinter Nights]]'''
** '''[[Planescape: Torment]]'''
** '''System Shock''' series
** '''Ultima''' series
** '''Wasteland''' series
** '''[[Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord]]'''

*Modern RPGs
** '''Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic''', both games are very good.
** '''Dragon Age: Origins''', much better than later games.
** '''Dark Souls''', due to its moody [[Berserk]]-inspired atmosphere, emphasis on exploration, and [[Dwarf Fortress|merciless learning curve]]. Compelling story and characters are a major plus, also contains large amounts of death and [[RAGE]]. The tagline isn't 'Prepare to Die' for no reason.
*** To a lesser extent, the other "Souls" games ('''Demon's Souls''', '''Dark Souls 2''', '''Dark Souls 3''', and '''Bloodborne''').
** '''Deus Ex: Human Revolution'''
** '''Fallout: New Vegas'''
** '''Witcher''' series
** '''Legend of Grimrock'''
** '''Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor'''

== Warhammer Games ==
*Strategy
** The old and glorious '''[[Warhammer Epic 40,000: Final Liberation]]''', '''Shadow of the Horned Rat''', and '''Dark Omen'''
** '''[[Dawn of War|WH40K Dawn of War]]''' and its [[Dawn of War II|sequel]].
*** The "True-to-Tabletop" [[Dawn_of_War_Mods|mods]] for DoW that sprung up, such as '''Firestorm over ''Kronus/Kaurava''''', the Closer to Codex mod. As well as the '''Ultimate Apocalypse''' and "'Armageddon Steel Legion mod which are MANLY.
** '''[[Chapter Master (game)]]'''
** '''[[Mordheim: City Of The Damned]]'''
** '''[[Battlefleet Gothic: Armada]]'''
** '''[[Total War: WARHAMMER]]'''
** '''[[Man o' War: Corsair]]'''

*Other
** '''[[Blood Bowl]] and its sequel'''
** '''Warhammer  Age of Reckoning'''
** '''[[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine]]''' 
** '''[[Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade]]'''
** '''[[The End Times:Vermintide]]'''
** '''Warhammer 40,000: Freeblade'''

== Miscellaneous ==
* [[Roguelike|Roguelikes]] 
** '''Curious Expedition'''
** '''Darkest Dungeon''' the newest [[H.P. Lovecraft|love-craftian]] dungeon crawler with grimdark setting and overall edginess.
** '''Don't Starve'''
** '''[[Dungeon Crawl]] Stone Soup'''
** '''TEARDOWN''', a Space-Hulk roguelike
** '''Nethack'''
** '''WarpRogue''', a 40K-inspired roguelike

*Adventure games
** '''Beneath a Steel Sky''': Great cyberpunk themes and rich imaginary
** '''Broken Sword''' series: Templars, ancient conspiracies, interesting characters and well-written plot that is minable even for tabletop games
** '''King's Quest: Heir Today Gone Tomorrow''': Just read the title and ask yourself what the game can be about
** '''Policenauts''': Lethal Weapon meets cyberpunk!

*Good FPP games
** '''DOOM''', '''Hexen''', and '''Heretic''': With a vibrant community because the games are easy to mod and has produced no shortage of mods (or wads as they're called in the community.) Interestingly, Doom was inspired by a D&D game run with Carmack as the DM. Romero's character recklessly gave a dark tome to a demon in exchange for the magic Daikatana which caused demons to overrun the material plane and the world to end. Visually, parts of the games(Hexen and Heretic especially) are reminiscent of a gothic dungeon. 
** '''Crysis''', Tree games provide a very moddable engine with a very versatile set of physics combined with a pretty absurdly large modding community that has among other things, created a perfectly workable Mech Warrior game out of Crysis Warhead.  Even if you don't care for nanosuit action, the mods alone are worth checking out.
** '''Escape From Butcher Bay''' a Riddick-licensed game that combines great stealth elements with even better combat sequences and a slight horror vibe, all in the sauce made off used future aesthetics.
** '''[[EYE: Divine Cybermancy]]''', a really weird FPS/RPG due to its cyberpunk fantasy aesthetics, almost an RPG.
** '''Far Cry''' series, which has completely different tone depending on installment and is just one huge mine of ideas for extremely pulpy scenarios. Special mention goes to Far Cry 3, which pretty much reinvented the franchise.
** '''Guns of Icarus''', a steampunk flying team deathmatch with set roles.
** '''Thief 1 & 2''', the grand daddy of stealth games, with one of the most original settings ever created for games (a combination of industrial - but not steampunk - medieval and paganic elements). Strong story, good characters and makes you feel like a master thief indeed. Reboot from 2014 is unapproved and shunned.
** '''Penumbra series''' The easiest way to describe it is to call it modern take on At the Mountains of Madness, only set in Greenland and with massive conspiracy looming over the story. Warning, ''very'' tense horror games (while avoiding jump scares) with unique control and physics system.
** '''Quake''': At least the early games, for similar reasons for DOOM (they were both made by the same company). Quake 1 is a good and challenging FPS that takes cues from Lovecraft in terms of environments and monster designs. Quake 2 is somewhat easier, but is deliciously grimdark sci-fi; it's about fighting cyborg aliens that make more of themselves by capturing conquered races and fitting them with cybernetics/forcing them into a hivemind against their will.
** '''Wolfenstein''' series: Combines sci-fi, fantasy and World War II elements amidst the Nazi-killing.

*Good TPP games
** '''Max Payne 1 & 2''' Finest product of the neo-noir genre, especially the second game. Amazingly strong story in both games, with a lot of Norse references in the first one. Also, the game that introduced bullet time as game mechanics. 3rd game is unapproved for being just a bland, boring and utterly pointless sequel.
** '''Prince of Persia''' trilogy. Accept no substitute for Arabian Nights game.
** '''Tomb Raider series''' Preferably games created by original studio, Core Design, but anything up to 2013 reboot goes. A swift balance between serious and pulp tone, providing simple plots and a more and more complex locations. Also, good source of creative traps.

* [[Mechwarrior]], because /tg/ loves [[Battletech]].
** '''MechWarrior I''' is lauded as a classic, and thus the best
** '''MechWarrior II''' is lauded as the best
** '''MechWarrior III''' is lauded as the most engrossing storywise, and thus the best
** '''MechWarrior IV''' is lauded as the latest and greatest, and thus the best
** '''MechCommander II''' is lauded as most like the tabletop, and thus the best
** '''MechWarrior Online''' is the worst
* Classic console games
** '''Jet Set/Grind Radio''' seems to have enthused one orky [[drawfag]] to the highest of possible levels, make of that what you will.
** '''Conker's Bad Fur Day'''
** '''[[Metal Gear]]'''
** '''[[Samus|Metroid]]''', '''[[The Legend of Zelda]]''', '''Kid Icarus''', and '''[[Castlevania]]''' (the four games series share so much in common they deserve to be discussed together). Why?  The exploration-heavy nature of the games, the feeling of growing more powerful as you collect enough gear and relics to make an adventuring party jealous, the incredibly memorable boss battles, interesting backstories (Metroid immerses you in backstory at your pace, via scans and lore pickups, leaving much up to your imagination), and providing many ideas for scifi or fantasy RPG session.

== Games that can be used to troll /tg/ ==
* Most other MMORPGs. [[World of Warcraft]], as the most successful to date, is especially effective. Special points to [[Star Wars: The Old Republic]] for being a massive disappointment for a popular franchise. 
* JRPGs, for often recycling the same plots over and over and having identical structure. Along with of course cringingly bad character designs in some cases. 
* Any of the modern Final Fantasy games, [[Games Workshop|which somehow keep getting sequels despite being financial failures]]. [[This Guy|Some fa/tg/uys]] have a fondness for the early ones, mostly because [[Troll|the first one rips off D&D pretty squarely]].
* [[Evony]]
* Skyrim, although it is good as a pregenerated fantasy world simulator you can dive into, it isn't an RPG. Reasons include having no choice to complete quests how you want, horrible dialogue, and uninspired combat and enemies.
* As a note to the above, you can say the same for Oblivion. Heavily uninspired landscapes, dungeons, and monsters, along with wonky gameplay and terrible dialogue. That's not to mention drastically changing the setting from jungle to generic Europe to be more appealing to the mainstream. 
* Some have thrown this accusation at [[Fallout|Fallout 4]], although many anons will defend it due to not being as bad as the above. 
* Mentioning the attention Warhammer 40k games have gotten compared to Warhammer Fantasy is a sore spot for Fantasy fans. 
* Reminding Shadowrun fans of the terrible Shadowrun FPS is not going to earn you any goodwill. 
* Sonic The Hedgehog. The fans are everywhere, and the butthurt is unfathomable. 
* Nintendo games have ultra-dedicated fanbases, and also hardcore haters. Mentioning Pokemon in a positive light or stating the controller of "the best" console they released is a sex toy may cause an internet fight. 
* Games with bad random number generators. Even highly approved of games like Mordheim: City Of The Damned will cause a shitstorm when someone is reminded that a supposed 95% chance to hit can result in four consecutive misses.
* No Man's Sky - such a huge waste of potential. Bringing this game up is a good troll move on /v/ as well, but everything's a good troll move on /v/.
* [[Blizzard]]. JUST. [[Blizzard]].

== The Game List That People Copypasta ==
Every so often, someone posts on /tg/: "Wow, you guys are so smart and cool; can you recommend some [[video games]] to play for those hours when I'm not playing tabletop?". It happens so often that people have made [[copypasta]] for the occasion, even image copypasta.

You will find a lot of those games on [http://www.gog.com/ Good Old Games], DRM free, for 6 or 9 bucks. Or [[Freebooterz|for free if you pirate]], which can often be justified by the original creators leaving the development company so all the [[Profit]] goes to people who don't deserve it. Your choice.

For any video game that someone felt was good enough for a full page on this wiki, see [[:Category:Video_Games|Video Games]]

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