Editing Age of Sigmar/Tactics/Order/Seraphon (section)

==Army Building==
===Start Collecting!===

Arguably the best way to start your army is to get two Start Collecting! boxes. With the advent of now having to choose from both Skinks and Saurus units, now we have some of the best ways to make an army faster and having welcome discounts for buying all the models compared as buying them on their own.

Really, that easy. 2 Saurus Warriors units, 3 Saurus Knights units and an extra Knight that can be converted to a Scar-Veteran on Cold One, and two Carnos/Trog as you want, and 4 extra Warriors that can be used as summoning fodder or conversion material. Also if you're willing to field some cheeky conversions, there's a [http://www.lustria-online.com/threads/getting-the-most-from-your-start-collecting-seraphon-box.20560/ useful post] at Lustria Online that details how to really pimp this kit far beyond GW ever intended, squeezing out a solid 800+ points per box.

You could simply buy more Start Collecting! boxes, maybe another 3. This is because one box comes with 12 Warriors (because is a relatively old sprue and the regular box has 20 Warriors), so you can have 60 Warriors between the 5 boxes. You will also get another 24 Knights, but they are a pretty viable unit (unlike Oldhammer latest editions), and you will never, ever, will have extra Carnosaurs. They are just beautiful models, worth every cent.

'''NEW FOR THE NEW BATTLETOME: START COLLECTING! SKINKS!''' 12 nimble mini-lizards, with 3 flying cavalry models, who you can use as objective grabbers or dive bombers, given their high movement, a Bastie, which means you get a Bastie, and a Starpriest, which means you get a Starpriest. 


The point here is to share and <s>pillage, and steal</s> collaborate ideas to build an army on the shape, but you should think about playing what you like the most (as always, fun is first, as long as you don't act like [[That Guy]]). Also, we'll try to suggest you easy ways to get a strong force while trying to save the most money possible, which shouldn't be that hard, since [[GW]] have been releasing bundles with decent saving on a constant basis <s>WHAT KIND OF [[HERESY]] IS THIS?</s>''). Keep in mind that with all the different special rules, opponents may get a bit tired of hearing Seraphon ignore that (e.g. Slann wizards can dispel or unbind spells anywhere on the battlefield). Sucks to be them.


Fortunately, Seraphon has a wide array of units, and everyone is viable.

From a single Start Collecting! you get:

* 90 points from 10 Saurus Warriors.
* 100 points from 5 Saurus Knights. 
* 260 points from a Troglodon OR 210 from a Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur OR 230 from a Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur.
*''Total:'' 450 points using a Troglodon OR 400 points using a Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur OR 420 points using an Oldblood on Carnosaur.

Not counting the possible extra models you can use: 110 for a Knight converted or counting as a Scar-Vet on Cold One (damn, you could simply use the 3 extra Knights as Scar-Vets too), 110 from using the free Saurus Oldblood on foot if you built a Troglodon and 70/120 from getting creative to use your Skink Oracle as a Skink Priest or Starpriest, and you could even use Jungle Swarms from the Cold One's bits if you are allowed.

===1000 pt.===
Here the core tax is 1 '''Leader''' and 2 '''Battleline''' units, you can have up to 4 '''Leaders''', 2 '''Artilleries''' and 2 '''Behemoths'''. Your minimum tax is 220 points; 2 10-units Skins and a Skink Priest or Starpriest.

Two Start Collecting! kits give you a quick and easy to get force, as well as a multi-task list, with some spared models to use in larger games.
* 20 Saurus Warriors (Battleline).
* 10 Saurus Knights (Battleline).
* Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (Leader/Behemoth).
* Saurus Oldblood on Foot (Leader).
* Troglodon (Behemoth).

<s> This uses exactly 1000 points. </s>
As of the new battletome, this list is 960 points and got a bit better.

This is a heavily focused melee list.

Depending on what you are facing, the Scar-Veteran and the Saurus Oldblood are good generals; excellent weapons and stats. The Saurus Oldblood is more defensive, favouring a steady approach, and the Scar-Vet is generally more offensive.

Use your Warriors in one or two blocks as you wish; you get a +1 To Hit if you have at least 15 on the same unit, but with only 20 this will probably last 1-2 turns. Bring them along your Saurus Oldblood on foot if you are using him as your general.

Use two units of Knights, using the weapons you find the most useful. They are quite slow for regular cavalry tho, at 8". Use them as flankers and alongside your Scar-Vet if he is your general.

The Troglodon is a great addition here, since its a jack of all trades. D3 ranged attack with good profile and damage (and the only ranged unit on this list), and get 3" extra if it can charge successfully and damaged with his poison, which can be quite effective since it has 7 attacks at +4 hit (with enough luck and not having taken so much damage, it can be able to deal 15 wounds on melee), it has its own roar that subtracts 1 from enemy Bravery and, most importantly, it is a wizard that can cast 1 and unbind one spell, gets a +1 to casting, unbinding and dispelling, and knows the spell comet's call in addition to one from the skink spell lore.

Not a specialist, but it [[gets shit done]]. However, never expose it to get 8 or more wounds. Its ranged attack has 18", gets worst if by 3" each time it suffers 2 or more wounds, it gets 1" for each two wounds and its bite starts at +2 to wound, reduces to +3 the next for wounds and get worst by one each time it suffers two additional wounds. (this is less of an issue now that it can heal D3 wounds a turn on a 2+, but still try to be careful with him)

It biggest flaw is that it fills lots of roles. Expect to see some heavy focus upon it.

===2000 pt.===
Here the core tax is 1 '''Leader''' and 3 '''Battleline''' units, you can have up to 6 '''Leaders''', 4 '''Artilleries''' and 4 '''Behemoths'''. Your minimum tax is 260 points; 3 10-units of Skinks (60 points per 10) and one of the following leaders: Saurus Oldblood, Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One, Skink Priest (80 points) or Skink Starpriest.

Keep using 2 Start Collecting! kits, now you can deploy all the models included:

* 20 Saurus Warriors (Battleline).
* 15 Saurus Knights (Battleline).
* Scar-Veteran on Cold One (Leader).
* A Firelance Starhost (using the Cold One Scar-Veteran)
* Saurus Oldblood/Scar-vet on Carnosaur (Leader/Behemoth).
* Saurus Oldblood on Foot (Leader)
* Troglodon (Behemoth).

This alone costs 1370 points. But if you can replace the Oldblood on foot or [[Counts as|count it as]], you can pick a Saurus Sunblood for 20 additional points.

Now, add: 

* A Stegadon (Behemoth).
* A Skink Priest/Starpriest (Leader). (use the priest model from the Stegadon kit)
* 1 Slann(Leader).

This will cost 1920 points, or 1990 if you play a Sunblood instead of the Oldblood on foot and starpriest instead of the priest. 

This list features more magic and dinosaurs, which is really what Seraphon is all about. 

Having 16 Cold One Knights, you can easily convert one into a Scar-Vet and make a Firelance. The Scar-Vet on Cold One is a good choice for a general because his command ability synergizes strongly with the Knights: re-rolling hits and charges is important, more considering how the Blazing Lances stacks with Blazing Cohort (yet another mortal wound), and the Cold Ones gain an additional attack. This battalion can easily snowball if left unchecked.

While lacking the Stardrake Shield, the Oldblood on Carno might be a little more killy than the Scar-Veteran by virtue of his sunbolt beams, while his spear is still as good as the regular. His command ability is strong for heroic wrecking balls.

The Oldblood on foot is a strong support for your Saurus, even without its command ability. The Sunblood is [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX|a big, bulky, scary lizard, able to soak decent amounts of damage and dealing it back]]. The Skink Star/Priest are reliable support options; the Priest can be a strong buff machine, while the Starpriest is a wizard that can help your units with magic, and an excellent buff to boot.

The Stegadon is a solid ranged/melee monster, and is an excellent sculpt to boot (plus the free priest), and the Slann is the traditional centerpiece of the army that no Seraphon player should be without. 

As a bonus, deploying this whole army should be a sight to behold!

====[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/05/stegageddon-the-final-form-of-listbuildinggw-homepage-post-2/ STEGAGEDDON]====
'''WARNING''': This is a GW invention, and even they admit this is more of a [[meme]] list than anything else. So basically, yeah, we Order Beastclaw Raiders now. [[AWESOME|Just with a herd of rampaging Stegadons]]. This also quite a throwback to WHFB 7th edition, with the old dead meme of "replace X, add Stegas".

# Field a '''Coalesced Thunder Lizard''' army. This is already as pleasing as you guess.
# Because of this, Steggies are now '''BATTLELINE''' instead of '''BEHEMOTH''', so you will need '''FOUR'''. Yes, you'll need money. Yes, you won't regret it. Equip them with a healthy blend of Skystreak Bows (A whooping 25" range, 3 attacks, 4+/3+/-1/D3) and Sunfire Throwers (A bubble of 8" 3+/3+/-/1). Remember, this celestial flamethrower '''MAKE AN ATTACK FOR EACH MODEL IN RANGE'''. This will deter your enemy from sending units with low wounds and plenty of models against you, [[Meme|will disappoint hordes immeasurably, and their day will be ruined]].
# Get yet another Steggie and give him a Skink Chief as commander. His/it command ability lets you pick 1 '''SKINK''' unit per phase, wholly between 2" of range, and adds 1 to the attacks it can make with melee weapons. All Steggies, being crewed by Skinks, get this keyword, so you can trample all over your enemies with a little extra dinomight. Nice.
# Grab two Engines of the Gods. Remember the mantra of our enlightened Slann Masters: ''More Stegs, more fun''.  This will give you the needed support you lacked so far. The effects from ''Cosmic Engine'' will get tweaked, since the article says that now rolls of 4-8 heal D3 wounds to nearby units.  This means that the single lazor beam or the [[dakka]] Whirpool will get modified. We only have to wait two weeks more, and the Engines will still rock, so no prob.
# The article here suggests you pick a Bastie with Solar Engine (but you can technically still use other Stega). This to use it in tandem with a new Command Ability: ''TROVE OF OLD ONE TECHNOLOGY''. Per phase, a unit can use its Engines (Solar or Cosmic) once again. If ''Cosmic'', '''this means it can heal <s>D6</s> ''2D3'' wounds''', or get another chance to shoot cosmic [[dakka]] to your enemies. If ''Solar'', this means '''[[Dakka|you effectively will shoot 18 attacks PER SHOOTING PHASE]]'''.

'''1970 POINTS OF SAURIAN STOMPS!''' This of course means some problems: you will not cover the whole battlefield, you relly on '''MONSTER'''S that get diminishing stats as they get hurt, and you will be slow as Nurgle after a nightover. They also say that you can try tweaking the list adding a Slann and some Star Skink (priest or seers, so maybe the seers will get a buff to make them actually viable, even for a meme list), but this list is just a paleo-sight to behold, and an inversion worth every single cent. And if you have played [[Total War: Warhammer|Total Warhammer II]], you already know how satisfying is to send a herd of Steggies to wipe clean a horde of pesky ratmen.

Who knows? this might be the dawn of a new Stega-Meta!