Editing Avatar (section)

==Things that suck==
Again, we stress, this movie is shit. There are a lot of things wrong with it. Such things include:

* Another blatant James Cameron [[Mary Sue|self-insert]]. Seriously, "John Connor?" "Jack Dawson?" "Jake Sullivan?" Who the fuck does he think he's fooling?  Though, to be fair, Jack Dawson was loosely based on real-life victim of the Titanic disaster, Joseph Dawson.  Not to mention John Connor is a messianic archetype character, which is character who undergoes great sacrifice to help others/whose story is modeled after Jesus Christ, so the "JC" parallel could also be that, not that that makes it any less pretentious though. 
* Not another "save the environment" story!  This is Disney's Pocahontas and Kevin Costner's "Dances with Wolves" as performed by Blue Man Group.  It's Ferngully: The Last Rainforest - In Space! as performed by the Smurfs.  To make it worse, the movie is very preachy about it.
* Also, once again, "the noblebright natives are noblebright, and the bad mostafakas colonizers are bad" story where "noblebright natives" can't do jack by themselves, before a Hero from among the white people joins to lead them. Heck, their planet-goddess heeds them not at their time of greatest need, but bows to white man's command. There's "unfortunate implications", there's "horrible bullshit", and then, on the far side over, there's this crap.
* Incidentally, the best way Cameron can come up with to go about racial stereotyping is, you guessed it, as much stereotyping as possible. Doesn't matter, human or Na'vi, named or extra, it's gonna be as 2D as possible and then some. The whole 3rd dimension went to special effects, none left for character portrayals.
* Every marine who isn't Semaj Noremac or his pilot is an evil, despicable, xenophobic hick who only makes the situation worse as they serve CORPORATE GREED.  Every human character in this movie is either a alien-hating hick or serves corporate greed, including the main ones (at first). It should be noted that it is CORPORATE GREED to piss away half a billion dollars making a movie about your dumb fursona rather than, say, using it to feed poor people.
* Rubbish mechs that don't have [[Dreadnought|gun arms]]. Also, the lack of Armoured Cockpit in the form of a plain glass bubble canopy leaves the pilot vulnerable to just about [[fail|any damn thing that hits them hard enough to break the glass]].  Hell, an open-topped Scout Sentinel leaves the pilot less exposed than this damn thing. Fluff tells us that this flaw, among others, is there because the mechs aren't originally combat vehicles, but that's still bull, as far as excuses go. The humans modified them for combat to begin with, including making FUCKHUEG autocannon rifles specifically designed for the suits to wield, there’s no good reason they couldn’t have slapped on some Extra Armour too. Same with their aircraft. You’d think that for all the real world’s experience with armored glass and cockpits for attack helicopters and combat jets, they’d make them bulletproof and arrowproof. But NOPE! Cockpit shots impaling evil human pilots with stone-tipped arrows is too much of a rule of cool to discard.
* No powered armor, mostly because allowing the humans to be stronger than the space furries would give some sort of balance to the narative, and because Quidditch getting swallowed by the giant space allosaurus-cat and shooting his way out of it like this was in Men in Black would have been so hilarious it might have been worth the 12 buck admission price, stressing MIGHT.
* Fucking deep sea bio-luminescence on land were it MAKES NO SENSE. Put there so humans can't use night vision and IR sensors to become [[Night_Lords|unstoppable terrors of the night]] that go MARBO and cut spess elf throats in the dark as soon as the sun goes down, like every modern army on Earth.  Also not even necessary because the giant fucking planet the moon orbits and the other moons would make the nights bright as shit anyway, so it doesn't even make sense a plot device.  
* The Na'vi only win due to a literal Deus Ex Machina, and it's not even a well-written one.  Their goddess suddenly takes sides when she never did before because the [[Mary Sue|super-special-former-human-marine-furry-space-elf]] asked her to, rather than the many other Na'vi praying to her.
* The Na'vi screw with their hair.  [[Extra Heresy|They also tame animals by force with their screwing hair and keep the hair in the animals while they ride.  In addition to being furries, the Na'vi are also into rape and bestiality]].  <span style='color:purple;font-size:100%'>'''Slaanesh approves!'''</span>
* Blue elves are better than humans?  Fuck you, James Cameron, you [[Heresy|xenos lover]]. Also, ever heard of "show, don't tell"? It's around the class 101 of storytelling. Blue elves are better, except they aren't any wiser (and infact shown to come within an inch of a lynch mob), suck at diplomacy, suck at war (where they need a white man's leadership to not suck even more...), even their goddess-planet doesn't listen to them. Oh but they are better, we're told. Because reasons!
* Xenos love? That's [[Heresy|EXTRA HERETICAL!]] And it wasn't even sexy xenos love, such as between two Eldar chicks or the alien LI's from [[Bioware|SWTOR and Mass Effect]].
* Unforgivable lack of [[Exterminatus|orbital bombardment or nukes]] (this is because the mining company was banned from possessing weapons of mass destruction by earth's government) or any semi-intelligent military tactics.  They could've just bombed the super-special tree and the enemy forces from orbit; it's a war crime either way, go big or go home.  Even the [[Derp|UNSC]], as retarded as they are, still have the intelligence to go "NUKE THAT SHIT!" (or threaten to) when all is lost.
* No [[Creed|tactical genius]] whatsoever.  No improvised use of terrain?  [[FAIL|Charging a fucking gun line '''front on''' - not even a flanking charge - with unarmored cavalry armed with ''bows and arrows'']]!? Despite being the brainless savages that they are, they had no excuse because the guy leading them was an ex-Marine turned heretic.
* All the vehicles appear to have been made with the [[Dark Eldar|Dark Eldar's]] trademark wet cardboard armor plating [[FAIL|and none of the Dark Eldar's speed, badass look or weapons]]. Even high-tech gunships can't withstand the power of simple wooden arrows. This is due to BRILLIANT design such as thin, unarmoured glass canopies and huge, unshrouded engine fans. Seriously, these things are designed like videogame bosses. This is because of the ludicrously contrived scenario, which is essentially defined as [[Plot armor|"this planet prevents us using anything that would mean we'd easily win."]]
* The art design for the humans is stolen shamelessly from the Halo series - seriously, for example compare the Hornet from Halo 3 and the Vulture from Halo Wars with any air vehicle from Avatar. Ya see? (Heck any air vehicle from Avatar is stolen from Halo)
** James Cameron even had the balls to suggest in an interview that the Halo series stole their art direction from HIM because he did a film back in 1986 about [[Space Marines|Colonial Marines]] vs [[Tyranids|Xenomorphs]] and that it was so epic that [[Warhammer 40000|everything since]] has also [[Games_Workshop#GW_The_Bully|copied]] him (which is feasible regarding Games Workshop, since Aliens came out in 1986, while GW released Rogue Trader, A.K.A Warhammer 40K, in 1987). Plus, he isn't entirely wrong, as many games often are modeled after the plot for Aliens.(i.e. Good guys show up, threat is encountered and dealt with, and then some greater threat shows up to ultimately be defeated at great [[Dawn Of War|sacrifice]] [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine|from]] [[Halo|the heroes.]])
*Replace "blue alien" with "colored guy" shows how incredibly backwards the movie is; see, only white people need things like written language and everyone else was happier before white man came along with his filthy civilization (protip: you're supposed to not know that sophisticated non-Western/caucasian societies have ever existed or still exist today, and that even the most primitive human cultures would think of the Na'vi as dirty and backwards. When Europeans only had huts and cave paintings, the ancient Egyptians had mastered monument-building, writing and invented a precursor to paper.   When Western societies were still gathered in villages that answered to whoever lived in the biggest house, China had an administration efficient enough to keep a centralized government in a huge country).  Good thing the director's white self-insert is there to save the stupid primitive people by mastering their ancient traditions in a couple of months better than any of them could in their entire lives. One can even argue whether the movie is a xenophobic one, or an [[SJW|Identity Politics-laden shitfest]] romanticizing "noble savage" bullshit, considering the natives are incredibly powerful humanoids with instant neural communication across the planet, carbon-fiber boned feline Otherkin that are physically on par with futuristic mecha exoskeletons.
* The film insinuates that xenocide is bad. However, we here at /tg/ and 4chan know [[Exterminatus|what must be done]] with the horrid offshoots of [[Eldar|space elves]] and furries.
* The film wags its finger at its human audience and says they should be more like the Navi and be one with nature; only the Navi are easily able to do so because every creature on their planet evolved physically do so through hair sex and have a nature goddess looking out for them in this life and the next. Not only do humans lack such capability to literally connect with nature, but we're also pretty sure that mother nature has tried to smother us in our cribs since day one. [[HFY|Well, two can play at that game]].
* <s>The unobtainable mineral that the marines want is called unobtainium. I dare you to come up with more retarded name.</s> WARDIUM.GOTOIUM. Unobtanium is a catch-all term used in Engineering to describe a material with properties beyond what is available, such as metal that has 100 time the tensile strength of steel and weighs half as much.
* 3 and a half hours of fur faggots in 3d is still 3 and a half hours of fur faggots
* They named blue faggots after blue faggots from a [http://zeldawiki.org/Navi different series]
* The film claims that [[Fail|Ludd]] was right, [[Derp|said film is made with state of the art 3D technology.]]
*It shares a loosely similar name with [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]].
*Like empty calorie fast food, while audience were wowed by the visuals, nobody remembered anything about the plot or characters within weeks of watching the film. This was especially evident when the sequel came out and tons of audience members were confused about who was who and what had even happened beforehand.

===Plot Holes===
The film is rife with plot holes.  Some of them are so big, you could fly a [[Manta]] through them, and others are small yet still big enough to detract from the plot.
* Since the humans understand the blue furries' biology well enough to clone them, they should be able to synthesize the Na'vi equivalent of chloroform.  They could've used this to knock 'em all out, load 'em on a transport and dump 'em 1000 kilometers away with six months' supplies.  Problem solved.
* If humanity is coerced into seeking new refuge in the stars due to Earth’s biosphere being ruined, where the heck is any presentation of valid space habitat in the Solar System such as rotation space colonies at the asteroid belt, subterranean Lunar or Martian settlements, or even cloud cities on Venus or the Gas Giants? All of which have useful minerals or gases for consumption or terraforming! And the reason Unobtanium is such a wonder mineral at 40 million dollars per kilogram for being a hyper effective superconductor vital for human civilization? Apparently global mass rail transportation, hyper effective computers, and FTL travel. Which leaves the question of how said efficiency is important if humans can just scale up base-load power. Honestly, Hollywood is infamous for having a hate boner against nuclear fission or fusion technology, but JFC!
* Power armor would've worked better than clone bodies in these circumstances.  The Na'vi know the Avatars are fake bodies being controlled by humans aka "the Sky People", and each side knows the other's languages.  They could've used pre-existing power armor and spoke to them face-to-face, while also being able to breathe, fight off the native wildlife and save the cost of whatever was put into genetically engineering the Avatar bodies.  They could've even kept the same main character, as power armor could've acted as a brace to let him walk again.  In addition, the main characters offset the "sameness" the Avatar bodies are supposed to provide by ''wearing tailor-made human clothes rather than dressing like the Na'vi!'' (they don't even have the excuse of putting armor on the Na'vi bodies).  
* Many bodily functions of the human body while that person is in an Avatar form aren't addressed.  While eating and drinking is shown, the main character spends a sixteen hour stint at one point and it's not shown how he, or anyone else, handles things like numbness from not moving or going to the toilet in that form, nevermind water and food intake.
* The fact that a bunch of furries using bows and waves of expendable infantry should not be enough to defeat a well trained army, no matter how powerful you think they are. A good example from actual history is the scramble for Africa in the latter part of the 19th century. Despite having superior weapons and technology compared to the Africans, for years they could not actually take over the continent due to diseases like Malaria (which locals are resistant to), the varied terrain, the locals' knowledge of where everything beneficial or dangerous is and their superior numbers.  What few footholds the Europeans gained were from taking territory through sneaky political work, superior training against the natives or exploiting existing social/political strife among them.  However, the inventions of Quinine(an anti-malaria drug), repeating and bolt action rifles, and early machine guns eventually wiped out the advantage the Africans had.  In short, it should be impossible for a technologically inferior enemy to defat you, even if they have superior numbers on their side. And even then, the [[Dark Eldar|technologically advanced culture often has the higher population anyway.]]
** Although, to be fair, Na'vi themselves are demonstrably ''not'' able to defeat a well trained army. In a full scale battle, they get their blue asses kicked so hard that it ''wasn't'' a battle as much as it was a massacre, at least until the planet itself intervenes on their behalf and zerg-rushes the humans with the entire ecosystem. Without a blatant Deus Ex Machina to save them, the Na'vi would've been annihilated.
* Despite the Na'vi being big on respect for life and interconnected by their planet-goddess, they still have separate tribes and no-one attempts to unite them, or undergo the "Turok" tradition until the non-native Jake does so.  
* On the subject of the Turok/Great Leonopteryx creature (from now on called the Leonopteryx), how Jake captured it makes no sense.  He figures since it's an apex predator it doesn't fear attack from others so it won't look up and is vulnerable to an attack from above.  While it makes sense that Jake might think this, not being a biology expert, that's not how animals work (especially since Pandora's animals work similarly to Earth animals).  We don't know much about the Leonopteryx, but every other animal on Pandora and the Na'vi reproduce sexually, so it's likely there's more than one Leonopteryx as they have to breed.  That means the Leonopteryx would have to be wary of attacks from others of its own kind (apex predators do fight among themselves and can even kill each other - being an apex predator just means being at the top of a food chain with no natural predators and juveniles still have to be wary of adults in case of cannibalism during famine times).  Even if there is only one Leonopteryx, this doesn't address the fact that the smaller flying creatures (Mountain Banshees) could still gang up on it (in real-life smaller bird species often gang up on and chase away larger birds - sometimes even predatory ones) as they're shown living and hunting together in large groups, so the Leonopteryx should still be aware of the possibility of attack.    
* Jake is not given any prior knowledge or research about Pandora before being sent to the Avatar project.  He impulsively pokes alien plants, doesn't learn about the animals he's supposed to be protecting his team from (having to ask his team if the Thanator - the giant, predatory-looking animal snarling right in front of him that scared the not-elephants away - is a threat), nor does he learn about Na'vi customs or important individuals among them; the closest he gets is a crash course on important Na'vi and their goddess AFTER he's met them and made a bad impression on an important one - Tsu'tey, the chief's successor and Neytiri's fiance.  
* The villains' characterization is all over the place, and the arc could be described as follows;  "OK we have the carrot and the stick, so we're going with carrot.  We spend Lord knows how long and how much - but it's easy to bet more than a couple of months and some spare change - to make clone bodies and arrange a scientific team to "blend in".  We're willing to haul a drunk cripple across the stars just to keep that project afloat.  OK, it's afloat.  Our cripple is considered one of them and is '''banging the local princess'''!  Surely we're on the verge of diplomatic breakthrough.  Wait a minute, banging the princess was bad diplomacy because that ruined an arranged marriage and pissed off their future leader.  And he smashed our equipment.  Damn!  Oh well, despite his betrayal and the diplomatic incident, let's send him back on the off-chance they'll listen to him... BUT, let's also give him an utterly unrealistic time limit to regain all that broken trust.  Forget that, let's go on in with the stick.  Forget all those years learning Na'vi biology and culture and preparing insert-clones and stuff, we just itched to bomb them back to the pre-stone age, or whatever the primitive state that would sound scary to them is.  We're using gas to drive them out and minimize casualties, but let's also blow up their big home tree which will cause untold carnage when it falls!  Genius!  So now they're marshaling forces against us and will eventually overwhelm our defenses through sheer numbers?  Instead of doing bombing runs to thin their numbers, let's be terrorists and blow up their most sacred place BUT instead of being smart and bombing it from orbit, let's fly in at a level where they can try and stop us."
* They can't track the Avatar bodies.  Despite being able to put small tracking chips in animals in real-life (and people, but there's human rights, plus most people can figure it out and remove it) and technology, they don't put a tracker on the Avatar body.  Because of this they lose it numerous times, having to personally scour the woods to find him.  The characters can barely identify them in the film when they show up on a vehicle's camera.  
* Avatar takes place in 2154, but planetside, apart from vehicle design and the bipedal mechas, the military is only as equipped as one from the Noughties.  
* The movie's premise is rendered redundant by a technology and practice that exists in real-life, namely sub-surface mining techniques.  All the humans had to do was dig under the trees without damaging the roots or destroying them, and bring the marines in case the Na'vi got uppity (a scan in the movie shows the plotdevicium extends to at least 2km below their home tree's roots).  If people can mine like that today, it should still be possible in an industrialized future capable of interstellar travel.  They could've saved themselves a lot of time and money and saved us from a fursona movie.
* Then there is the biggest plot hole of all.  Jake, and no-one else, ever just tells the Na'vi what the humans want (the magnetic rocks) and why (starship fuel to find a new planet to live on since humanity's ruined Earth).  Since that was sort of his job, and since despite being CORPORATE GREED stereotypes the humans still understand diplomacy (even worse, since half of corporate greed is '''not''' risking military equipment/personnel billions of dollars worth with near-zero resupply and using tribes against each other/bribe-subvert key leaders), it's a huge amount of [[FAIL]] that makes no sense from the characters' or the plot's perspective.  Many others have commented on this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXraSkgssFk or made fun of it].  
* Most of the animals are just blatant expy's of real life animals. Thanators? an oversize feline, those giant hammerhead beasts? a fucking elephant (they do not hide it well, listen to the noises they make), you get the fucking idea. Furthermore, most of these alien life forms are just biologically impossible, seriously if you want to add in a hexopodal organism correctly, [[FAIL|at least have a brain to distance each individual limbs proportionally or else they look like they will trip over one of their four forelimbs.]] There is a ''good reason'' why hexopodal and multi-limbed creatures on Earth such as insects and arthropods have their limbs spread out equally and proportionally in order to retain a center of balance. [[derp|Seriously Cameron get a biologist as your next designer.]]
* Made even worse when Cameron said that the Thanator (The oversize kitty cat) could "Beat a T rex and eat a Alien Queen for breakfast".  [[RAGE|Words cannot describe the sheer fanboyism, and blatant ignorance at his own works, in this statement.]]  
** First of all, the Thanator was roughly calced at being the sized as an Indian Elephant which are around 5 tons, big yes, however compared to the above aforementioned two, it's still a dwarf. Just by looking at it, the Thanator is an obvious ambush predator, its long elongated front teeth are reminiscent to the sabre tooth cats which makes them excellent at slicing flesh but piss poor in both crushing bone and being as fragile as a stick, meaning that these teeth would literally snap in two against anything remotely armored.  This is further supported in its skull structure, with it being relatively streamline and light which means the Thanator must compensate muscle power for its fuck huge delicate teeth, which in turn supports the really feline dominate aesthetic of the creature and just like a feline it is dependent on its arm strength to bring its prey of equal weight down (note how in the film it regularly uses its forelimbs when attacking). Now compare this to the [[Dinosaur|T rex]], a 10 ton beast with a skeletal and muscle structure meant for brute strength, its teeth are serrated, short and thick allowing it to easily crush steel let alone bone like paper.  Additionally, not only was the T rex powerful in both bite force and mass, it was also gifted with a ridiculously powerful eyesight (As powerful as a Hawk), sense of smell (Just as good if not greater then a dog), an infectious bite and being just plain durable as fuck [[Awesome|'''''(Seriously this thing shrugged of blows from tanks like Ankylosaurus and Triceratops as well as other T rexes and survive, and it was still just in place 10 of most powerful dinosaurs.)'''''.]] If Cameron ever went into paleontology he should know that even if the Thanator manage to have a surprise attack on good old rexie, the tyrant lizard's superior mass and thick skin would just yell "LOL Fuck You!" and proceed to pummel and rip apart the ever loving shit towards the overgrown house cat, even a small nibble from the rex could prove fatal due to its highly infectious bite; [[Awesome|there was a good reason why the T rex was considered as the most powerful land super predator to date.]] Furthermore lets not forget that Earth has a higher gravity then Pandora, making the T rex even more denser and hence more powerful than the Thanator, [[rape|there is no kill like overkill.]] 
** And that was just the T rex. The Alien Queen can get at least the size of a T-rex implying similar strength and durability but also has longer upper arms, hands with opposable thumbs, greater intelligence (recent studies estimate T-rex's intelligence at the level of a squirrel or a crocodile while the alien queen's intelligence is between an elephant and human levels), the piston-like second mouth, a prehensile blade-tipped tail (that can be used as a slashing or stabbing weapon) and acid blood. The Alien Queen would slaughter it 10 ways to hell, and that is assuming that the QUEEN is fighting the Thanator. A praetorian (think special bodyguard xenomorph to the queen), or heck, even a [[Tyranids|swarm of warriors]] could probably kill it.