Editing Warhammer Meta-Setting (section)

=== 40K ===
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40k's scale is a lot larger then Fantasy's, being a galaxy (amongst billions of other galaxies, one must remember) and not a single planet. If however, Age of Sigmar is a full cycle, then it's possible to imagine that in this cycle rather then make one world, the Dracothian made the entire universe we can see looking up with a telescope, and remember 40k is OUR cycle, we live in the Age of Terra.

Presumably this was done to give chaos a lot more 'toys' so as to delay the cycle a lot more. Given that 40k has lasted at least 13 billion years, which is something on the order of 9,111 times longer then fantasy did, assuming that not too much time passed before Aenarion became the phoenix king and the elves started writing shit down. The length of time 40k's has existed compared to fantasy gets longer if you throw our understanding of planet formation in as well, but we will assume our current models and theory's don't work in 40k for simplicity sake (it's the problem with science fiction, you're always tempted to apply them). Maybe Chaos was playing in the Andromeda galaxy or something while earth was evolving us (although it's worth noting that looking at 40K by itself it's likely that each galaxy gets it own set of Warp gods, and even that a galaxy more [[noblebright]] than ours would likely thus produce equally noblebright gods), if we did evolve and did not just get plopped onto our planet at the end "Age of Sigmar" during the last ice age and replaced/literally outfucked local advanced primates.

Slaanesh was born during the Eldar fall. If the other cycles are canon to 40k, then Slaanesh was reborn showing that gods can appear within a cycle.

No signs of the winds of magic, though given the different discipline in the last couple 40k rule books, it could be they exist but have different names or are thought of differently.

The big question is, is 40k going to go through its own end time? (assuming GW does not end up "once bitten twice shy" about major setting shake-ups after the Age of Sigmar reaction.) It is a tough call. 40k is explicitly said to be in the 'time of ending' but that is by the Imperium's metrics. Yes things are getting pretty bad with aliens like the Tau and Tyranids banging on the door step, Chaos sneaking up the back way, rebellions starting and the Emperor's throne failing, all of which are bad, but it's not clear if that means it's all going to be unmade and that Chaos is going to win anytime soon. It has been suggested that if the Emperor actually dies it will submerge all of the galaxy into the warp, which would be the 'end state' for any 40k End Times but it's unclear if that's true as a god was made in setting, Slaanesh, and it did not cause a reality collapse like at the end of the Fantasy cycle's End times. If chaos did 'win', things might get unmade but by the same token they would need a total victory to drag the whole of the galaxy, or maybe even universe since the Tyranids need to be coming from somewhere. Even if 40k as we know it goes kablooey and the galaxy becomes a massive Eye of Terror that just might mean it's time to move on to the next galaxy and the setting's true "end times" is only when every galaxy in the universe has been individually consumed by chaos, which is not actually mathematically possible for a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL4yYHdDSWs assortment of space time reasons].  And of course if the Tyranids win and devour the entire galaxy and kill off the local warp gods from starvation (and everyone else) who the fuck knows what would happen.  If the Dracothian making the 40k universe was to make sure he did not have to do this shit again for a while, he fucking succeeded.

Alternatively, they have absolutely nothing to do with each other and only Warhammer Fantasy suffers from the cycles - thematically this makes more sense than it sounds, since not only is 40k a lot more removed from fantasy tropes and (begrudgingly) closer to sci-fi tropes (there's a whole universe out there, it's 13 billion years old, we have definite points of origin for both chaos itself and every major chaos god rather than their existence predating the setting), it also suffers cycles of its own in-universe. The order of the Dark Age of Technology led to chaos of the Age of Strife led to the order of the Great Crusade led to the chaos of the Horus Heresy, and so on and so forth, and that's only within the history of humanity. 

If 40k exists in this cycle, it seems very likely it was the first and influenced the later additions rather than resulting from something prior. Yeah, that's right. The truth you all feared. 40k is canon and Fantasy was Tzeentch's fan fiction on a corner of the Warp where he makes and torments "gods" for his amusement. As for the setting itself, there is only war and an eternal stalemate to perpetuate it.

The Ynnari storyline confirms Chaos Daemons were present early on during the War in Heaven, making that event 40k's Coming of Chaos

Various Daemons have talked about other Universes and wanting to invade them so the cycle could still be in 40k