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=====Forge World===== *'''Armageddon Pattern Basilisk:''' 15 points up on a standard Basilisk for an enclosed crew compartment, which nets you 1 more toughness and wounds. Makes your earthshaker more resistant to S7 and S12 attacks, and because of the way the wounding rules work, that's about it, though the extra wound is a nice topping on the cake. About as viable as the normal one if you have the model, but not exactly worth the extra money if you don't (nothing stopping you from using "counts-as" though). *'''[https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//Carnodon_Datasheet.pdf Carnodon Battle Tank]:''' A Heresy-era fossil of a tank that's one third cheaper than a naked Leman Russ with its initial loadout and has the statline of a slightly weaker Predator. It is capable of taking highly specialized loadouts. For AT, take four lascannons. Multilasers are a good option to take out GEQs and the Volkite weapons are good against heavy infantry and can fish for mortal wounds on wound rolls of 6+. Bonus points for having better Volkite weapons than the Space Marines. And the Mechanicus. Nope, the cogboys aren’t salty about that one at all. **Carnodons fill a similar role to the Guard's fast attack units. Tactics used for Sentinels and Hellhounds are more applicable to Carnodons. **{{W40Kkeyword|Tallarn}} makes these guys pretty effective cavalry tanks. They can quickly redeploy to deliver whatever firepower the brought to bear. ** Volkite weapons may baffle most tech priests, but the damage they cause on the battlefield is plain to see. The Culverin has four shots, any of which cause D3 mortal wounds on a wound roll of 6+. The Calivers add another single mortal wound on any 6+. This setup with a heavy stubber runs you 110 points and has a minimum range of 30". The guns profile isn't bad either netting you 8 S6 AP-1 D2 hits. For this price 3 tanks at 330 points is affordable making them a startlingly efficient means of spamming mortal wounds while genuinely threatening far more dangerous enemies. ** Clearly designed by C.S.Goto, because it has the potential to equip !!5!! Multilasers. ** The price drop on multi-lasers helped this light tank out. At it's cheapest only running 90 points. Point drop didn't effect the twin multilaser on the turret though so worth switching it up for the added 4 points. Still 58 points less than a naked Russ for a lot of light firepower. The pintle mounted multilaser is 3pts more than the heavy stubber, for +2S. *'''Earthshaker Battery (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' The gun deck of a Basilisk, sitting pretty on a stationary foundation. As of Chapter Approved 2017, these guys are more expensive and less resilient than a regular Basilisk. The only saving grace is that it can technically still fire the Earthshaker while it is being swarmed by enemy assault troops. **This is another discontinued model, but don't be discouraged. Simply take the part of your Basilisk that's not a Chimera (the cannon and T-shaped gun platform) and plop it on a suitable-looking base. Get creative so your opponent actually lets you use it. *'''Crew-Served Gun Batteries:''' All of these deploy as one unit and then split into two - one unit of guns and one unit of crew. This means they can't be buffed with orders; any effect just buffs the crew, instead. The crew are essentially characters, thanks to wonky rules wording - they can only be targeted if they're the closest visible enemy unit. Furthermore, a gun model cannot fire unless a crewman is within 3" of it. **Be aware that the gun batteries have the {{W40Kkeyword|<vehicle>}} keyword. This allows them to receive buffs from Salamanders and Trojans! Yes, you can re-roll misses and hit on 3s with ''Earthshaker Cannons.'' Both buffs are ''not'' unit-wide, so you must pick one gun in the battery when doing this. **''Note:'' If somehow the guns are destroyed, or you don't need them, you can walk the crew around behind something tough, like Bullgryns, and use these guys as untouchable lasguns! Clearly an exploit, but so laughably inefficient it can never really be abused; inform your opponent, imagine they're hammer dancing, and have some fun! **'''Earthshaker Carriage Battery (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' The Earthshaker Cannon mounted on a Krieg-style wheeled gun carriage. Unlike the above, the crew is separate, and thus can defend the gun in melee. You get 4 crewmen a gun, which essentially means a full battery comes with a free Infantry Squad. ''And'' they can take orders, though re-rolling 1s won't work the miracles that ignoring all cover saves once did. With a slightly-lower-damage version of the lascannon's gun profile and an average of 2.24 hits to a lascannon team's 1.5 for a marginal increase in cost, it's more point-efficient than a lascannon team for tank-busting, and thanks to the high shot count and lasgun-armed crew, better at fighting crowds, too. Not bad. ** Forget about it. Chapter Approved has killed it to death. Now base cost for this poor boy without legs (tracks) is 105 + 16 points for 4 crewman. Stick with a vanilla Basilisk, that costs only 108 points and still can move, while also having a heavy bolter. I would still recommend running it simply for fluffy reasons and that the model looks amazing. **'''Heavy Mortar Battery:''' The Heavy Mortar hits like a midway between a normal mortar and the Earthshaker Cannon. Unfortunately it takes after the latter in price - 72 points for a 3-man team and the gun carriage. Potentially viable if you've got the models, but nothing special. Also, the rules are poorly worded so technically the Guardsmen Crews have 'Explodes'. Trying to exploit this by charging them into enemy lines and chain-exploding them makes you [[That Guy]] and will probably also lead to a quick FAQ clarifying, as you already knew, that it was not intended to apply to the non-Artillery models in the unit. **'''Heavy Quad Launcher Battery:''' Also known as the Thudd Gun. Invented by [[squats|a race of abhumans]] whose worlds were lost to the Tyranids sometime in the mid-M40s (it's not clear) and much beloved by Kriegers, 8th Edition's Thudd Gun behaves like a Wyvern's quad-gun, without the rerolls to wound (perhaps it doesn't use airburst ammunition?). It's also only 10 points cheaper as a Wyvern, sans the heavy bolter the latter gets with its Chimera mobile platform. Workable if you have it, not worth the money if you don't. **'''Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery (Forgeworld Index: Astra Militarum):''' Got nerfed hard and went from auto-include to almost-nope. Twin-linked is gone but it still fires only one shot, so barring a static {{W40Kkeyword|Cadia}}n gunline to reroll 1s, there is no chance to reroll that 4+ except CPs (or a Trojan, see above), as the Rapier can't take orders any more. Still, the gun is S12, and ''if'' the shot hits, on a roll of 3-5 it does 2D6 damage, and on a 6 it's upped to 3D6 (so you ''could'' hypothetically one-shot a Land Raider, but it is highly unlikely) - the overall expected damage roll is 6.42, slightly better than 3d3 but slightly worse than 2d6. The price got almost doubled ,to 74 points for one gun and a crew of two. The rapier has 3 wounds now, but unfortunately is only T5. Mathhammer says it will only beat out a team of lascannons (of similar cost) against 2+ models, models of T6 and below, and 3+ models of T9 and above. Not worth buying, but if you have it, save it for the ''really'' tough stuff. *'''Griffon Mortar Carrier:''' The Griffon Mortar Carrier occupies the niche of cheap medium artillery support compared to the other big guns available to the Guard. The Griffon Heavy Mortar has a range of 48" and strikes at S6 with AP -1 and dealing D3 damage per wound...and unlike the Wyvern, this Mortar ignores cover saves. In previous additions, the Griffon used to have the ability to re-roll scatter, and thanks to the way the bombardment and artillery squadron rules worked meant that you could use it as spotter artillery for your bigger guns. These days however, much like its larger cousin the Basilisk, it rolls 2D6 and takes the highest to determine the number of attacks it makes. This all clocks in at a measly 78 points after purchasing the mandated Heavy Bolter, though this can be swapped out for a Heavy Flamer for extra charge defense and it can also take a pintle mounted weapon and/or Hunter-Killer Missile. Unlike the Medusa and Basilisk whose preferred targets are TeQs, MeQs and Vehicles, the Griffon is best used to rain hate on cover camping units with a 4+ save or worse, though it can also be used to hunt light vehicles and low save, multi-wound models thanks to its D3 damage. It doesn't re-roll wounds like the Wyvern, but since both mortars main targets tend to hide in cover, any time you would take a Wyvern, consider the Griffon instead. Probably not as competitive as either the Medusa or the Basilisk, but a solid artillery piece for the price. Tallarn Griffons can move and shoot, Catachan ones can re-roll attacks, Cadian ones can re-roll 1's to hit, and Vostroyan ones have 54" range. Note: Forgeworld no longer sells a model for this unit, but the conversions are super easy. *'''Colossus Bombard:''' ''Finally'' gaining the toughness of the Leman Russ chassis it's mounted on, the Colossus still ignores cover, though that doesn't do as much now. Downside, it costs as much as a Leman Russ, too. The mortar itself has gotten a HUGE range increase (In fact this might be a typo - ''240 inches''), and hits like a Heavy Mortar with slightly better AP. It fires twice as many shots, too. All in all, it's a damn fine artillery piece. *'''Cyclops Demolition Vehicle:''' 40k's version of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine Goliath], a bomb on treads controlled by remote. Magos Cawl figured out how to encrypt the controller signal, so the operator doesn't have to walk around on the field next to it, but putting it in transports disrupts the signal...so you can't drop it out of a Valkyrie anymore. In exchange, it's ''much'' faster (10" move, though advancing prevents you from setting it off) and its payload is one of the few blast weapons in 8th edition that's ''actually'' a blast - you set it off in the Shooting phase, and it hits ''everything,'' friendly and enemy, within d6" like an Earthshaker shell. Oh wait, no, it actually hits ''much harder,'' rolling a flat 2d6 for shots instead of 2d6-take-the-highest, and ''it auto-hits.'' This is the single worst thing to roll into a deathstar of characters at the center of your opponents' army - no more Look Out Sir! to slough off the pain it can bring, and every unit within the effect radius is hit the same. It's not very tough, but it's small and easily concealed behind bigger, bulkier units, and at 40 points it can be a powerful disruptor of enemy formations. **Note that this little ball of hate explodes on a '''3+''' when killed, and that's your die to roll. You, the Guard player, with the giant pile of command points. Take a reroll, hand out some mortal wounds, and get a glass for the tears of your opponent. ** Chapter Approved has increased its cost to 60 points from 40. Not a build-killer, but you'll need to work to make back its points now. **These bombs can take a {{W40Kkeyword|<Regiment>}} keyword now. {{W40Kkeyword|Armageddon}} is better for getting your bombs on target in 1 piece, while {{W40Kkeyword|Catachan}} makes them more reliable. {{W40Kkeyword|Mordian}} turns your little bombs into risky flanking buddies, although, tbh, Sentinels are better suited to this purpose, as far as cost is concerned. {{W40Kkeyword|Tallarn}} is really fluffy, but so easy to counter. The others, however, give nothing that this unit needs, although it is an easy way to set up Overlapping Fields of Fire for your {{W40Kkeyword|Cadian}} units. Vicious Traps does give this unit a kind of Overwatch, but isn't really worth it. **Don't forget: these can charge. Use these guys to charge your opponent's melee screen units with limited shooting, and watch the beads of sweat on your opponent's face flow as he realizes that killing this thing in melee is as bad as letting it live. *'''Hydra Battery:''' Four long-barreled autocannons on a stationary platform. Higher toughness but lower wounds and save than the mobile version. Shoots the same, at about 25% less points. Workable, but not exceptional. *'''Leman Russ Family''': As of the recent FAQs, all the Forge World tanks also gain Grinding Advance. **'''Leman Russ Annihilator (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' In past editions, this was indisputably the most underwhelming Leman Russ variant. However, with the changes to the twin linking rules, compounded by Grinding Advance, it’s the only Leman Russ that has increased in firepower rocking, effectively, 4 bs4 lascannons. Against another Leman Russ, this thing will put out 1.94 wounds, matching the Demolisher but with more range. Expect to see this eclipse the “anti-armor” Vanquisher, which only puts out 0.94 wounds a turn against another Russ. In an edition where vehicles tend to stick around, loaded for bear (multi-melta sponsons and a hull lascannon), this tank has the potential to take out a vehicle per shooting phase. *** With that cool new Grinding Advance rule, this tank became our one of the best options, matching even Demolisher in sheer amount of hard hitting hatred it can bring to our enemies, even matching Demolisher in his own field, while been miles away from the fight. Sadly, you can't put Pask in it... **'''Leman Russ Conqueror (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' Actually pretty useful now. The Conqueror cannon has the same statline as a regular battle cannon, just with a 48" range. The co-axial weapon is only a storm bolter though, rather than the much more logical heavy stubber, but Forgeworld are bound to go derp somewhere. Actually while the Storm Bolter is shorter ranged (its max range is half the main gun's, rapid fire is 12) due to not being a heavy weapon it fires at full BS on the move, and it grants rerolls to hit with your Conqueror cannon if you fire on the same target, it doesn't even have to hit anymore. Especially good for {{W40Kkeyword|Mordian}}; slap a pintle mounted storm bolter on there and you'll be putting out 8 S4 shots hitting on 5s on overwatch. *** When you do some math you will quickly realize, that this baby is one of the best Russ variants in the game right now. Reroll every (not only failed) shots on the main gun gives you MASSIVE powerboost, almost doubling your hits. Find the path to reroll that random attack D6 roll (Cadian's order or Catachan's doctrine) end enjoy tearing everything up to a land raider to pieces. Trust me, this tank gonna '''CONQUER''' your battlefield. *** Chapter Approved lists the Conqueror as 122 points, the same as a Leman Russ Annihilator and dropping 10 points after the Forge World 1.0 FAQ. **'''Leman Russ Stygies Vanquisher (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' A slight improvement over the normal Vanquisher, and arguably forgeworld's attempt to fix that variant. They failed. The Stygies pattern comes with a co-axial storm bolter, and if it remains stationary, the main weapon gains +1BS. Like the Conqueror, shooting the storm bolter and the cannon at the same target grants rerolls to hit. With both bonuses stacking, this can pull off 1.66 wounds against another russ – meaning unlike the normal vanquisher it outdoes the battlecannon (1.17 wounds) but is still beaten by the annihilator and demolisher at 1.94 wounds a piece, which are more useful against other targets and offer better range and mobility (as the Stygies needs to be stationary at 24 inches to be fully effective). ***''Sponson/Hull Weapons'' - Heavy Flamers and Storm Bolters can be fired on the move without penalty, but only they and your turret gun have that benefit. If you ''do'' take Plasma Cannons (or other options, like a Hunter-Killer Missile), don't expect to land many hits. ***As per the latest FAQ, the Stygies received yet another minor buff to try and salvage it. You can now exchange the Co-axial Storm Bolter for a Co-axial Heavy Stubber, which lets the tank function better as intended, that is, hold still and shoot at tanks from far away. The extra foot of range significantly boosts its threat radius and switching to a Heavy weapon is largely irrelevant, as you'd pretty much never get the Storm Bolter's additional shots and you probably won't be moving in the first place. *'''Malcador Tank Family (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' Down(?)-graded from Lord of War to Heavy Support, the light-super-heavy tanks of the Malcador family have been smiled upon in 8th by the removal of weapon facing. This means the bizarre fixed-transfer casemate mount which the main gun sits in (and the fact that the sponsons can't train forward) no longer limits its shooting ability; also gone is the chance to break down every time it moves, apparently they finally fixed the engines on these things. The Demolisher cannons have Grinding Advance, as well. Note: The Valdor tank destroyer is still taking a Lord of War, so no spamming Neutron Lasers (not that you could spam a tank this size anyway). **'''Malcador Heavy Tank:''' The basic Malcador is a Russ on a steroid binge - 18 wounds instead of 12 (this is standard across all Malcadors), and it can carry autocannons or lascannons in the sponsons. Note that this Malcador lacks any type of Grinding Advance, you're still better off with regular Russes. **'''Malcador Annihilator:''' The Malcador's version of the Leman Russ Annihilator. Two lascannons in that weird turret and a Demolisher cannon in the hull. Note that you can replace the Demolisher with a FIFTH Lascannon if you so desire but at 300 points it's somewhat(read:very) inefficient. **'''Malcador Defender:''' ''Now we're talkin'!'' In a remarkable display of foresight, the Defender eschews the nerfed turret weapons of its brothers for an interwar-style turret fitted with ''five'' heavy bolters. Two more on the sponson mounts make for a bullet hose to rival the Stormlord - at 21 shots, it can chew through blobs for breakfast. It also adds 1 to its overwatch hit rolls. A demolisher cannon is still present on the hull for tougher targets. Send a trio of these with {{W40Kkeyword|Mordian}} tactics up the board in front of your Infantry to form a near impassable wall of Heavy Bolters for any opponent who heavily relies on hordes of footslogging infantry. **'''Malcador Infernus:''' The Malcador's version of the...Hellhound? Apparently someone <s>saw the need</s> addressed the requirement to set entire city blocks on fire at once. This vehicle carries the Inferno Gun, which rolls 2d6 automatic hits with a strength and damage that resembles an Autocannon (with better AP). If that and the 16" range weren't enough the prometheum fuel can be swapped out for <s>Trooper Duffy's special soup recipe</s> a toxic sludge that wounds everything that isn't a vehicle on 2s, and has AP-3. It's a big pile of points and tends to violently explode, but it can be very fun to run! And if it does blow up, try to have it do so next to those heretics. It WILL hurt. Unlike its brothers, which are limited to Heavy Stubbers, Autocannons and Lascannons for sponson options, the Infernus additionally has Heavy Bolters and Heavy Flamers to pick from. Though, given the short range on the main gun the choice here seems obvious. *'''Medusa Family''' **'''Armageddon Pattern Medusa:''' Your only mobile source of the Medusa Siege gun. ***This one is an odd little box. What you get is a vehicle that wounds like a Manticore (S10) and is just as tough (T7), ignores armor like a basilisk (AP3) and has a similar point value (111), has the wounds and armor of a Leman Russ (12W and 3+save) but can fire without line of sight. So far so good. However, you trade all this for the lack of ability to fire after moving without a penalty to hit (and have a poor range of 36 inches), the lack of T8 to survive plasma and anti-tank firepower that is usually S7 and above, and worst of all, you score less hits than a basilisk, Manticore or most Leman Russes with grinding advance with your single D6. ***This means the Medusa is worse against almost everything. It deals inferior damage compared to other artillery pieces. And while you could argue the Tallarn doctrine removing the penalty to hit when moving turns it into a cheap chassis with a 36 inches range demolisher cannon equivalent equipped, the fact that the damage is d3 rather than d6 (like the demolisher) makes it a poor choice as well. It does, however, outperform the Basilisk against T9, T10, and T18. If it were to consistently get an above-average number of shots, however (via command re-rolls or taking the {{W40Kkeyword|Catachan}} regiment), it would actually outperform the Basilisk rather consistently against T5+ as well, so still give it some consideration if you're up against TEQs or Death Guard. **'''Medusa Carriage Battery (Forge World Index: Astra Militarum):''' The Medusa Siege Gun returns, mounted on a wheeled gun carriage. Got a few buffs - the standard siege shells are ballistic, and may be fired out of line-of-sight now, while the still-direct-fire Bastion-Breaker shells may be used without losing the ability to fire standard shots. The 36" range may chafe on an immobile platform, though... *'''Sabre Weapons Battery:''' For 20 points base, you get 1 3W, T4 model with a 4+ save. While most of its "twin" options are nothing to write home about compared to two heavy weapon teams, which for 12 points cheaper gets you 3 more wounds at the expense of 1 point of toughness and 1 point better armor save on more models (which mitigates high damage hits). Furthermore, because orders only work on infantry instead of "non vehicle units" a la 7th, it can no longer take orders. **This went from being cheesier than a fondue convention to "meh". For what is now 40pts (Chapter Approved 2018), one {{W40Kkeyword|<regiment>}} infantry unit gains +1BS, and that's if the sabre is within 48" and both it and the buffed unit have line of sight. One unit also cannot gain from multiple defence searchlights. **Note that orders no longer state a unit must immediately take an action when ordered, so it's entirely legal to order your conscripts to set up a firing line, light up your target with a spotlights, and then give him a good old fashioned Cadian Burial. **Mordians get the most out of this; the Volley Fire stratagem procs twice as often if you're spotting for the unit in question. Get a full blob of conscripts, put them under Rank Fire (command reroll that if you need to), pop the stratagem, and light them up. You'll hit on 4s, and the wording of the stratagem means any roll of 5 or 6 grants another shot. This improves the firepower of the unit to approx. 66% accuracy, or a 3+ roll. Not bad, for a bunch of untrained bodies! **Our lord and savior Forgeworld no longer makes a model for the Sabre. However, a proxy can be kitbashed pretty easily. Simply buy a heavy weapon squad box from GW, build them as lascannons, cut off the lascannon barrel so that the stump is flush with the gun shield, and glue on the front of a vehicle searchlight (found in pretty much every IG vehicle kit that no one bothers to put on). Voila! For a more elaborate version, you can use the spinning gun deck, control column, and crew from a Wyvern platform. *'''Sentinel Powerlifters:''' For about the same price as a Bullgryn (and twice as many wounds, though you lose those awesome shield saves) these ad-hoc Dreadnoughts swing 3 times with built-in Power Fists(S10 AP-2 Dd3) that don't impose a -1 to hit. Guard WS hobbles it a bit, but it's fast and hits like a train. Also gets a scout move and smoke launchers to improve the chance of getting in close. Unfortunately they can't take HK missiles like the other Sentinel variants can, though this can be to thier benefit. Treat these as cheap passive-aggressive Distraction Carnifex's. Your opponent will most likely ignore them since they can't shoot(and the rest of your army can shoot...a lot), and until you start wailing on something noteworthy(at S10 you have a lot of choices too) they'll probably forget that yes, those are powerfists they have. **That scout move is critical. If you deploy cleverly you can start the minimum of two feet from your intended target...and then Scout move towards it. Then move normally, and you have a 6" charge to make. Point at the nearest Tyranid and say it with me:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j51DfrLHUek] **I'm pretty sure the {{W40Kkeyword|Armageddon}} regiment is the only one these guys will benefit from. **Keep in mind that you can use the Crush Them! stratagem with them, that way you add d6 inches to your movement '''and''' you are now hitting on a 2+. *'''Stygies Family:''' These are Leman Russes in all but name - in fact, the Thunderer Siege Tank is a Leman Russ Demolisher with the hull gun stripped off and +1 wound - but that name matters a lot, since they can't take orders from a Tank Commander. Don't look away so fast. Orders or no, turret or no, it's still one of the most well made vehicles in the galaxy; the damage tables on these are surprisingly good, possibly justifying the points hike. Still the Thunderer is 180 points, and tank hunter 160, while a Demolisher is under 140? Not viable right now. Even if the models are ace. Make good proxy demolishers? **'''Stygies Destroyer Tank Hunter:''' A Leman Russ chassis with no turret and a Heavy Laser Destroyer Array for a hull gun. It's not twin-linked anymore, instead acting a bit like a small blast weapon - D3 shots at a Lascannon statline, except it rolls 2d6-pick-the-highest vs vehicles on damage. Unlike any other vehicle built on the Russ chassis, it must hold still to get its full BS. Easily overshadowed by the Annihilator in output, but much easier to conceal - remember that a tank in cover has a 2+ save. Furthermore, the 60" range means it almost never has to move, so you don't need to be bothered by the heavy penalty - and on average you get two shots. For 10 points over a Vanquisher it fills the role of a Russ tank hunter pretty darn well, beating out the Battle Tank on wounds versus T8 3+...barely. In practice, an exciting big gun to take out the enemy’s heavy hitters, but the law of averages drags it down with too little killing power to take anyone out. And I so wish it was that unit that knocks em out with a big lasrer, as it looks like it should. Give it strength 10 and a stunlock, or something. **'''Stygies Thunderer Siege Tank:''' 10 points more than a Vindicator for one additional wound and 1 lower BS...which only counts when you're standing still, because ''this'' vehicle ignores the heavy penalty. Sadly not particularly worth it due to the general nerf to blast weapons, but can be a fun distraction vehicle or tank-buster nonetheless. **The Index FAQ deliberately avoided giving this vehicle the buff given to all Leman Russ tanks, for whatever reason, while also making it cost 40 points more than a Demolisher. Take a Demolisher. *'''Tarantula Battery:''' Surprisingly cheap compared to last edition (the primary cost is for the guns on it), but you still get the annoying targeting protocols. In fact, slightly ''worse'' now, since this thing will never shoot at Characters if there's another model closer...even if it's one of those 10+ wound Characters the rule wouldn't normally apply to. ** Chapter approved has doubled its point cost per model...
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