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What your [[Ogre Kingdoms]] have turned into, so you can go and eat the new things of the nine realms! Ogors have gone from an inexpensive, fun, and fairly powerful army in WFB to dirt cheap to play (An Ogre Battalion Box is more than enough to start a solid cheese-fest army), fast moving, hard hitting and obscenely tough army in AoS. Aside from Gnoblars and Sabretusks, EVERY model has multiple wounds, multiple attacks and deals multiple wounds, usually with a -1 rend. Also The Maw is not only useful but actually quite good now.


Rules are here [http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-ogre-kingdoms-en.pdf]
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==Ogors Warscrolls==
==Warscrolls==


Forenote:
===Generic Heroes===
The following section will be arranged with similar units and formations being grouped together for easier reading.
'''Bruiser Standard Bearer''': Strong in combat, but he doesn't do a good job as a Standard Bearer. He lets you re-roll Battleshock for units within 6" of him, but before that they suffer D3 mortal wounds, so you could end up worse than before! Only use this if the Battleshock roll was truly disastrous anyway. Also, if you don't move him, Ogors within 18" made an additional mortal wound on wound rolls of 6+. Because it's only on wound and not hit rolls, and the low (but powerful) number of attacks Ogor units deal, this is a pretty mediocre ability. Overall, a disappointg Hero.


This is by no means a complete guide, and focuses only on Ogors. Also due to the relatively recent release of Age of Sigmar and lack of Fantasy players remaining, most of this is based on theory. Take everything with a pinch of salt.


===Named Characters===
'''Overtyrant''': All by himself, he's as powerful as a minor Monster. You can give him a low-range(12") missile weapon, a normal "re-roll 1s to hit" weapon, or a two-handed weapon with 2" range and -2 Rend. At the start of the game he becomes either stronger, tougher, faster, or better against Monsters; if you roll 6, you choose, nice ability, but too random. With his Command Ability you deal D3 mortal wounds to a Ogor unit within 6", and they don't take Battleshock anymore while the Tyrant is alive. That's a great ability in this army, but it has short range, and won't make your guys killier, only tougher. Remember that sometimes Inspiring Presence is just better. Use this Hero to support your Ogres while still bashing heads, but don't expose him too much, you lose his bonus if he dies, all after having hurt your own troops. Also remember that this targets Gutbusters, not just Ogres. No, that's not the same thing. It means you can target Gnoblars with this, take D3 of them off the board and never have to worry about their piss-poor Bravery again.


'''Greasus Goldtooth'''
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Ouch, what a disappointment for such a great character. Brutal in combat, but with 3" Move and one dice to charge, he'll never get there, or only at the last turn of the game. His Command Ability can be nullified merely by your opponent saying "No" (and he'll say that every time unless he's playing strictly for fun). His only value is that he adds 1 to the Bravery of Ogors within 14" of him when taking battleshocks, but being so slow it's difficult to take advantage of that. Still, he can be kind of useful, and very fun if your opponent is willing, but he's such a waste of a Hero it makes me sad. 
Rules are here [https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Compendiums/warhammer-aos-ogre-kingdoms-en.pdf]


'''Skrag the Slaughterer'''
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I always cry at the part where they eat Skrag's hands, then he rams his butcher's implements into his wrist-stumps and starts killing things in droves. I'm such a softie. Anyway, this time around he's not a Wizard, but a Priest, so he can't cast/unbind. He's well protected and has a good number of attacks, but they're random and have no Rend, still good. He can pray, with success on 4+ (3+ if he killed something last turn, and he suffers a mortal wound on 1s) to deal a mortal wound on 4+ to every enemy unit within 7" of him, or heal D3 wounds to an Ogor within 14". But the best thing about him is his cauldron: depending on the number of models he killed last turn (in combat or praying), he can heal himself and Gorgers D3 wounds (1 kill), and add +1 to hit(2 kills) and wound(3 kills) rolls to Gorgers within 14" and himself. To sum it all, he can be almost inmortal, all while killing lots of things, he makes Gorgers much better, or he can just heal a nearby powerful Hero/unit. Great by himself, but you can make a killer army with some Gorgers, he's specially good against things with low saves. Just what you'd expect from someone who throws the guys he kills to the cauldron on his back while the battle is still going on.
 
'''Bragg the Gutsman'''
Your anti-Heroes Hero, can do lots of damage against them, still nothing truly impressive. But if he deals even one wound any combat, enemy units within 6" of him sustract 1 from their Bravery for Battleshock that turn. Combine that with the Bellower basic Ogres and Ironguts get (another -1 Bravery), and their Great Maw Skull/Rune Maw Bearer (another models flees for each one that flees on a 6), and the enemy will be fleeing left and right. Still, not that great a strategy, and not that great a character. Useful, but nothing more. 
 
'''Golfgag Maneater'''
This guy is tough as nails, and with his set up ability he becomes even better. The bonus he gives to his Maneaters is minimal, but it doesn't hurt, and he's strong enough to include anyway. Take him and start killing things left and right, simple enough.
 
===Infantry===
 
'''Tyrant'''
All by himself, he's as powerful as a minor Monster. You can give him a low-range(12") missile weapon, a normal "re-roll 1s to hit" weapon, or a two-handed weapon with 2" range and -2 Rend. At the start of the game he becomes either stronger, tougher, faster, or better against Monsters; if you roll 6, you choose, nice ability, but too random. With his Command Ability you deal D3 mortal wounds to a Ogor unit within 6", and they don't take Battleshock anymore while the Tyrant is alive. That's a great ability in this army, but it has short range, and won't make your guys killier, only tougher. Remember that sometimes Inspiring Presence is just better. Use this Hero to support your Ogres while still bashing heads, but don't expose him too much, you lose his bonus if he dies, all after having hurt your own troops.
 
'''Bruise Standard Bearer'''
Strong in combat, but he doesn't do a good job as a Standard Bearer. He lets you re-roll Battleshock for units within 6" of him, but before that they suffer D3 mortal wounds, so you could end up worse than before! Only use this if the Battleshock roll was truy disastrous anyway. Also, if you don't move him, Ogors within 18" made an additional mortal wound on wound rolls of 6+. Because it's only on wound and not hit rolls, and the low (but powerful) number of attacks Ogor units deal, this is a pretty mediocre ability. Overall, a disappointg Hero.
 
'''Butcher'''
Mediocre (for an Ogre) in combat, and with 7 wounds but only 5+ save. But each time he casts/unbinds a spell, he recovers a wound on 2+, or suffers a mortal wound on 1s, so he's got great survivality after all. He can only cast/unbind a spell a turn, but his The Maw unique spell is great: 7+ to cast, 18" range, deals D3 mortal wounds, then D3 more each time you get 4+, repeat until it fails/kill the unit. So, it's a more powerful version of Arcane Bolt, that with some luck can crush anything. Overall good Wizard, but, as always with Ogres, he gives you less support that you'd want. Still very useful.
 
'''Firebelly'''
Same statline as Butcher, but with 2" range in his melee weapon. Also has a Fire Breath shooting attack, 6" range (which means it practically is a melee weapon, unless you put the Firebelly behind one of your units already in combat), no roll to hit or wound, but on 4+ you deal D3 mortal wounds, pretty good. He's also a one spell/unbind Wizard, and his unique spell, on 6+ to cast, deals D3 mortal wounds to each enemy unit within 3" of the Firebelly, but only if you roll 4+ for each target. This makes him ideal for getting close to already fighting units (put him behind your own units), attack them with the Fire Breath, then burn them with his spell. But many times it will be difficult to do that, and just an Arcane Bolt will be better, unless the Firebelly himself is in combat, were he's pretty good (but you risk him). Generally the Butcher is the better Wizard for Ogres, because of his regeneration and his awesome spell, but the Firebelly is not bad by any means. 
 
'''Ogres'''
Your basic guys. Their outline is similar to the rest of your units, therefore some of the following advice apply to them as well. Impressive statline: 4 wounds, 3 attacks dealing 2 damage each, 6" move. Their weapons either lets you reroll 1's to hit or deal a mortal wound on a save of 6+, it's debatable what's better. Ogres are indeed powerful, but they have some disadvantages: mediocre save (5+), no Rend, and they're so big they'll pile in clumsily and get outmaneuvered. Also, while their Bravery it's not bad (6), fleeing is still very painful for them (you can't afford to lose many models that way, your opponent probably can). It's preferable to take Tribal Banner with them, because then you can also take the Look Out Gnoblar, and it's better for Ogres to avoid fleeing themselves than making enemies flee. Ogres also gets wounds re-rolls when charging with 10+ models, or re-roll 1s if less than then, so always try to get the charge. To use well these guys, support them, do not let them get separated from your other units, protect their flanks, and don't use them against units with high armor. Do that, and you'll feast on the guts of your enemies.
 
'''Ironguts'''
Brutally, unfairly powerful. Remember the basic ogres downsides? Well, these guys have ALL of them covered. Compared with vanilla ogres, Ironguts get +1 save, +1 Bravery, +1 Damage, and Rend -1. They also make more enemies flee with their Bellower and Banner, and have some protection against spells (they don't have to choose, they get all those bonuses). And their weapons are 2" range (you can't get two rank attacks with them, sorry, but you can put a unit with smaller base size in front of them and still attack over their heads). Lastly, one time per game, and only if some other Ogor fled at any point (which is probable),  they re-roll 1s for hits, wounds and saves, making them even more balls-powerful. These big boys are good at everything, use them for whatever task you need and they'll give a good acount of themselves.
 
'''Hunter'''
A guy who doesn't know what he wants to be, always a bad sign. Not very much stronger or tougher than a normal Ogre, he gets some shooting attacks, but too few to have any impact in the game. His Great Throwing Spear can be good, but is unreliable. He makes Sabretusks better, but not by much. He gets better against Monsters, but again not by much. Use him with Sabretusks, then go for some Monster or the unit the Sabretusks went for, I suppose. Or use him as mobile artillery with his Spear, but even then he'll never do very much, I'm afraid.
 
'''Maneaters'''
Like normal Ogres but with better attacks, Bravery, and Rend. Also, some get at no cost a missile weapon (12" range, as always). The thing that makes them specially good is that you pick on set up if you improve their melee or shooting, or give them run+charge in the same turn, or inmunity to Battleshock. That makes them very versatile, perhaps the run+charge is the best pick, because then they're faster than any other Ogor in the army. Their downside is their low save (5+), but they're strong enough to make up for that.
 
'''Leadbelchers'''
Cannon ogres. Same basic stats of normal Ogres, with only two melee attacks at -1 Rend. Oh, and they get a 12" range shooting attack, D3 shots at 4+/3+/-1/1, pretty good. Which becomes D6 shoots if no enemies are within 3" and the Leadbelchers didn't move last turn. The range of their cannons is so low they'll probably only shoot outside of combat one or two times, but that can be enough to obliterate something. Yes, with D6 attacks they become devastating, but this is where things get tricky: it's difficult not to move them in an army with so little shooting as Ogors, you can't wait for the enemy. You can use them as support for other units, or just ignore the improved shooting (they're still brutal enought with "only" D3 shoots). But the absolute worst thing you can do with them is to try and get the D6 shoots when you should just advance, you'll let your opponent dictate the flow of battle if you do, which can cost you the game. So, don't get too greedy with them, they're amazing even while moving each turn.
 
'''Gorgers'''
Demented and deformed Ogres without bellies. Scary at 5 attacks and 5 wounds each, but shitty 6+ save. Also 8 Bravery, and can charge after running, so they're pretty fast, too. You can make them appear in the first turn at 12" from any enemy units, at the cost of their Move, so you can't charge that turn (well, with a 12 charge roll you can, but...). So you can use them to ambush/assasinate things, but you'll probably have to weather a round of shooting before that, and fast things can escape you, oh well. With Skrag they basically heal D3 wounds each turn (remember you can't distribute Wounds, so that'll only heal a model), and if at 14" from him they'll probably get bonus to hit/wound, making them VERY scary. Always nasty, but even more with Skrag, use their "teleport" ability to give your army some much needed flexibility.
 
'''Yhetees'''
Mutated Ogres with 9" Move! Just what this army needed! Indeed, they're so fast you can just think of them as cavalry. They hit as hard as a normal Ogre but with Rend -1, great, and have 6" pile in, so even if your formation gets messed up or the enemy charges you at a weird angle, all your Yhetees will probably reach the enemy and bash them. Only a 6+ save, but in the combat phase things get a -1 to hit them. So, vulnerable against shooting, but better than 5+ save in melee, because even against things with Rend -2 you still get a "save", also a -1 to hit is better than 6+ save (because successful hits still have to wound, do the math), and nullifies the abilities of models that do things on a 6+ hit roll. Fast and powerful, use them to counter enemy cavalry or charge isolated things, just watch out for shooting.
 
'''Gnoblar Fighters'''
People say these are good, but I can't see how. I understand they're meant to be sacrificial units, but even at that role they suck. They get 3 attacks each with 30+ models, but so weak they won't do anything, and with 3 Bravery they'll suffer so much losses you won't keep the bonus more than one turn. They get a shooting attack, but is utter shit. They make D3 mortal wounds to units charging them, but only on a 1/6 chance. Their minimun unit size is ten, which limits their flexibility. As tarpits/nuisance, Ogors get much better units. They only add something to the army if you're using a comp system that makes them dirty cheap, as it should (if that's the case, they can be useful, yes). About the only use I see for them is to be in front of your Ogres, to make sure you get the charge (the Gnoblars get the enemy charge, then next turn the surviving ones retreat beneath the gaps of the Ogres, roman infantry style). And even at this they're not that good, because they're slower than Ogres, with a 5" Move! I don't know, perhaps I'm being too negative here, alternative opinions are welcome.
 
===Cavalry and Monsters===
 
'''Sabretusks'''
This is supposed to be your fast cavalry, but their lame 9" Move cripples them. With a Hunter at 16", they get +3 to their charge at the Charge Phase, which is not very useful, he should have improved their Move, oh well. Also, with the Hunter at 16", they get 7 instead of 5 Bravery, luckily the Hunter wants to Run every turn. They've good Attacks (and 3 each), but even the weakest shooting or melee attack will decimate them, and if the Hunter is not in range they'll also run quite easily. Overall, is not easy to take advantage of them because of their slowness and fragility, but if you manage to get them into combat and get the priority, they can do some good damage. All in all, pretty lame and disappointing, sorry.
 
'''Mournfang Cavalry'''
 
'''Stonehorn'''
 
'''Thundertusk'''
 
'''Giant'''
 
===Artillery===
 
'''Gnoblar Scraplauncher'''
 
'''Ironblaster'''
 
===Formations===
 
'''Gutbuster Wartribe'''
 
'''Beastclaw Avalanche'''

Latest revision as of 22:33, 19 June 2023


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Generic Heroes[edit]

Bruiser Standard Bearer: Strong in combat, but he doesn't do a good job as a Standard Bearer. He lets you re-roll Battleshock for units within 6" of him, but before that they suffer D3 mortal wounds, so you could end up worse than before! Only use this if the Battleshock roll was truly disastrous anyway. Also, if you don't move him, Ogors within 18" made an additional mortal wound on wound rolls of 6+. Because it's only on wound and not hit rolls, and the low (but powerful) number of attacks Ogor units deal, this is a pretty mediocre ability. Overall, a disappointg Hero.


Overtyrant: All by himself, he's as powerful as a minor Monster. You can give him a low-range(12") missile weapon, a normal "re-roll 1s to hit" weapon, or a two-handed weapon with 2" range and -2 Rend. At the start of the game he becomes either stronger, tougher, faster, or better against Monsters; if you roll 6, you choose, nice ability, but too random. With his Command Ability you deal D3 mortal wounds to a Ogor unit within 6", and they don't take Battleshock anymore while the Tyrant is alive. That's a great ability in this army, but it has short range, and won't make your guys killier, only tougher. Remember that sometimes Inspiring Presence is just better. Use this Hero to support your Ogres while still bashing heads, but don't expose him too much, you lose his bonus if he dies, all after having hurt your own troops. Also remember that this targets Gutbusters, not just Ogres. No, that's not the same thing. It means you can target Gnoblars with this, take D3 of them off the board and never have to worry about their piss-poor Bravery again.

External Links[edit]

Rules are here [1]


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