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In the grim darkness of the far past of the 2000-early 2010s, there was only overprice.
In the grim darkness of the far past of the 2000-early 2010s, there was only overprice.


The foul forces of [[Tom Kirby|Chaos]] gave the middle finger to the costumer. But in [[Games Workshop|their darkest hour]], [[Kevin Rountree|one man]] would save us all.
The foul forces of [[Tom Kirby|Chaos]] gave the middle finger to the customer. But in [[Games Workshop|their darkest hour]], [[Kevin Rountree|one man]] would save us all.


====Historical Background====
====Historical Background====
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We are going to rate the kits as GREAT, GOOD, OKAY, and COULD BE BETTER.
We are going to rate the kits as GREAT, GOOD, OKAY, and COULD BE BETTER.


For players willing to help: give your opinions on the notes collumn. Trying to make it short and sweet if possible. Jus ad another point if necesary or if another viewpoint is needed.
For players willing to help: give your opinions on the notes collumn. Trying to make it short and sweet if possible. Just add another point if necessary or if another viewpoint is needed.


====Start Collecting!====
====Start Collecting!====
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The namesake of this article, this kits give you one leader and one troop as a minimum, with an additional one or two extra units of another type.
The namesake of this article, this kits give you one leader and one troop as a minimum, with an additional one or two extra units of another type.


As a note, this kits are being replaced with Combat Patrols for the 40K, format so expect to see a new table as new kits get released.
Note that the 40K Start Collecting! kits are being discontinued and replaced with [[Combat Patrol Boxes]]. As of late 2021, the Age of Sigmar ones are also starting to be replaced with [[Vanguard Boxes]].


===Age of Sigmar Kits===
===Age of Sigmar Kits===
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| '''[[Beastclaw Raiders]]'''
| '''[[Beastclaw Raiders]]'''
|  
| 1 Stonehorn/Thundertusk and 4 Mournfangs  
- 1x Stonehorn/Thundertusk  
- 4x Mournfangs  
| $
| $
| Great
| Great
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| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''[[Free Cities|Anvilgard]]'''
| '''[[Cities of Sigmar|Anvilgard]]'''
|  
| 1 Black Ark Fleetmaster, 10 Black Ark Corsairs, 1 Kharibdyss/War Hydra and 1 Scourgerunner/Drakespawn chariot
- 1x Black Ark Fleetmaster, 10x Black Ark Corsairs, 1x Kharibdyss/War Hydra, Scourgerunner/Drakespawn chariot
| $$$
| $$$
| Good
| Good
| Pretty much a Start Collecting! Pirate Dark Elves.
| Pretty much a Start Collecting! Pirate Dark Elves.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|
|-
|-
| '''[[Beasts of Chaos]]'''
| '''[[Beasts of Chaos]]'''
|  
| 1 Great Bray-shaman, 1 Cygor/Ghorgon, 10 Ungors and 10 Bestigors
Great Bray-shaman, Cygor/Ghorgon, 10 Ungors and a set of 10 Bestigors
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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|-
| '''Daemons of [[Khorne]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Khorne]]'''
| Herald on Blood Throne, a set of three Bloodcrushers and ten Bloodletters.
| 1 Herald on Blood Throne, 3 Bloodcrushers and 10 Bloodletters.
| $
| $
| Good
| Good
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| '''Daemons of [[Nurgle]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Nurgle]]'''
| Herald of Nurgle, a set of three Plague Drones, a set of three Nurglings and a set of ten Plaguebearers of Nurgle
| 1 Herald of Nurgle, 3 Plague Drones, 3 Nurglings bases and 10 Plaguebearers of Nurgle
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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|-  
|-  
| '''Daemons of [[Slaanesh]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Slaanesh]]'''
| Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh; can be regular or a Hellflayer, 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes.
| 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh (can be regular or a Hellflayer), 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes.
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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|-
| '''Daemons of [[Tzeentch]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Tzeentch]]'''
| Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foor with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors.
| 1 Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foot with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors.
| $
| $
| Good.
| Good.
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|-
| '''[[Daughters of Khaine]]'''
| '''[[Daughters of Khaine]]'''
| - 1x Shrine, which can be manned (womanned?) by either a Hag or Slaughter Queen, Bloodwrack Medusa, or Avatar of Khaine  
| 1 Shrine (which can be manned (womanned?) by either a Hag or Slaughter Queen, Bloodwrack Medusa, or Avatar of Khaine) and 5 Melusai Blood Stalkers/Sisters  
- 5x Melusai Blood Stalkers/Sisters  
| $$$$
| $$$$
| Could be better.
| Could be better.
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|-
|-
| '''[[Flesh-Eater Courts ]]'''
| '''[[Flesh-Eater Courts ]]'''
| Terrorgheist, three Crypt Horrors, 10 Crypt Ghouls
| 1 Terrorgheist, 3 Crypt Horrors and 10 Crypt Ghouls
| $$$
| $$$
| Great.
| Great.
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| '''[[Fyreslayers]]'''
| '''[[Fyreslayers]]'''
| Magmadroth; it can be rided by 3 leaders, and you have enough bases to put the two who will not mount it on foot, 10 Vulkite Berserkers
| 1 Magmadroth (it can be a mount option for 3 leaders, and you have enough bases to put the two who will not mount it on foot) and 10 Vulkite Berserkers
| $$$$
| $$$$
| Good.
| Good.
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|-
| '''[[Gloomspite Gitz]]'''
| '''[[Gloomspite Gitz]]'''
| Loonboss, 3x Rockgut Troggoths, 10x Cave Squigs, 2x Squig Herders.
| 1 Loonboss, 3 Rockgut Troggoths, 10 Cave Squigs and 2 Squig Herders.
| $
| $
| Good.
| Good.
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|-
| '''[[Cities of Sigmar|Greywater Fastness]]'''
| '''[[Cities of Sigmar|Greywater Fastness]]'''
| Warden King, 1x Cogsmith, 10x Ironbreakers/drakes and 1x Gyromachine (copter or bomber)
| 1 Warden King, 1 Cogsmith, 10 Ironbreakers/drakes and 1 Gyromachine ('copter or 'bomber)
| $$
| $$
| Good.
| Good.
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|-
| '''[[Idoneth Deepkin]]'''
| '''[[Idoneth Deepkin]]'''
| 1x Isharann Soulrender, 10x Namarti Thralls and 3x Akhelian Guard
| 1 Isharann Soulrender, 10 Namarti Thralls and 3 Akhelian Guard
| $
| $
| Great.
| Great.
| Two or three of this kits makes up for a great core.
| Two or three of this kits makes up for a great core.
| [Image goes here]  
| [Image goes here]  
|-
| '''[[Idoneth Deepkin]]'''
| 1x Isharann Soulrender, 10x Namarti Thralls and 3x Akhelian Guard
| $
| Great.
| Two or three of this kits makes up for a great core.
| [Image goes here]
|
|-
|-
| '''[[Ironjawz]]'''
| '''[[Ironjawz]]'''
| Orruk Warchanter, three Orruk Gore-gruntas, ten Orruk ‘Ardboyz
| 1 Orruk Warchanter, 3 Orruk Gore-gruntas and 10 Orruk ‘Ardboyz
| $$
| $$
| Great
| Great
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|-
| '''[[Kharadron Overlords]]'''
| '''[[Kharadron Overlords]]'''
| Endrinmaster, a set of 5 Grundstok Thunderers, a set of 3 Skywardens, a Grundstok Gunhauler
| 1 Endrinmaster, 5 Grundstok Thunderers, 3 Skywardens and 1 Grundstok Gunhauler
| $$$$
| $$$$
| Good
| Good
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|-
| '''Khorne Bloodbound Goreblade Warband'''
| '''Khorne Bloodbound Goreblade Warband'''
| Mighty Lord of Khorne, a Bloodsecrator, a Bloodstoker, a Khorgorath, 5 Blood Warriors, 10 Bloodreavers
| 1 Mighty Lord of Khorne, 1 Bloodsecrator, 1 Bloodstoker, 1 Khorgorath, 5 Blood Warriors and 10 Bloodreavers
| $$$$
| $$$$
| Good
| Good
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|-
| '''Maggotkin of Nurgle'''
| '''Maggotkin of Nurgle'''
| Mortis Engine, 3 Spirit Hosts, 5 Hexwraith Cavalry.
| 1 Lord of Blights, 5 Putrid Blightkings and 2 Pusgoyle Blightlords (optionally one as a Lord of Affliction).
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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| '''Malignants'''
| '''Malignants'''
| 1x Lord of Blights, 5x Putrid Blightkings, 2x Pusgoyle Blightlords, optionally one as a Lord of Affliction.
| 1 Mortis Engine, 3 Spirit Hosts and 5 Hexwraith Cavalry.
| $
| $
| Great
| Great
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|-
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| '''[[Seraphon]]'''
| '''[[Lizardmen|Seraphon]]'''
| Carnosaur, 8x Saurus Knights, 12x Saurus Warriors
| 1 Carnosaur, 8 Saurus Knights and 12 Saurus Warriors
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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|-
| '''[[Skaven]] Pestilens'''
| '''[[Skaven]] Pestilens'''
| Plague Furnace, a Plagueclaw, a horde of twenty Plague Monks
| 1 Plague Furnace, 1 Plagueclaw and 20 Plague Monks
| $$
| $$
| Great
| Great
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|-
|-
| '''[[Armies of Nagash|Skeleton Horde]]'''
| '''[[Lizardmen#Skinks|Skinks]]'''
| Arkhan the Black, 10x Skeleton Warriors, 5x Black Knights
| 1 Skink Starpriest, 12 Skinks, 3 Terradon Riders/Ripperdactyl Riders (optionally one as Terradon Chief/Ripperdactyl Chief) and 1 Bastiladon
| $$$$
| Great
| Buy three so you can get the three mounted Mortarchs.This is one of the most newbie-friendly kits too.
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| '''[[Skinks]]'''
| 1x Skink Starpriest, 12x Skinks, 3x Terradon Riders/Ripperdactyl Riders, or 1 Terradon Chief/Ripperdactyl Chief, 1x Bastiladon
| $$$
| $$$
| Great
| Great
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|  '''[[Slaves to Darkness]]'''
|  '''[[Slaves to Darkness]]'''
| 1x Chaos Lord on Karkadrak, 5x Chaos Knights, with the option to build a Doom Knight with a Cursed Flail and Chaos Runeshield, 10x Warriors of Chaos
| 1 Chaos Lord on Karkadrak, 5 Chaos Knights (with the option to build a Doom Knight with a Cursed Flail and Chaos Runeshield) and 10 Warriors of Chaos
| $$
| $$
| Great
| Great
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| [Image]
| [Image]
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| '''[[Stormcast Eternals ]]Thunderstrike Brotherhood'''
| '''[[Stormcast Eternals]] Thunderstrike Brotherhood'''
| Lord-Celestant on Dracoth, a Lord-Relictor, 3 Retributors, 10 Liberators (including 2 Liberator-Primes), 3 Prosecutors
| 1 Lord-Celestant on Dracoth, 1 Lord-Relictor, 3 Retributors, 10 Liberators (including 2 Liberator-Primes) and 3 Prosecutors
| $$$$
| $$$$
| Good
| Good
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|-
| '''Stormcast Vanguard'''
| '''Stormcast Vanguard'''
| Lord-Aquilor, a set of 5 Vanguard-Hunters, a set of 3 Vanguard Palladors, a set of 3 Gryph-Hounds
| 1 Lord-Aquilor, 5 Vanguard-Hunters, 3 Vanguard Palladors and 3 Gryph-Hounds
| $$
| $$
| Great
| Great
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|-
|-
| '''[[Sylvaneth]]''
| '''[[Soulblight Gravelords]]'''
| Branchwych, a Treelord, 16 Dryads
| 1 Wight King on Skeletal Steed, 20 Grave Guards and 5 Black Knights
| $$$
| Great
| If you plan to play Legion of Blood, this is fine.
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| '''[[Sylvaneth]]'''
| 1 Branchwych, 1 Treelord and 16 Dryads
| $$
| $$
| Great
| Great
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|-
| '''[[Adeptus Mechanicus]]'''
| '''[[Adeptus Mechanicus]]'''
|  
| 1 Tech-Priest Enginseer, 10 Skitarii Vanguard/Rangers and 1 Skorpius Dunerider/Disintegrator.
- 1x Tech-Priest Enginseer  
| $$
- 1x Skitarii Vanguard/Rangers  
- 1x Skorpius Dunerider/Disintegrator
| $$$
| Good
| Good
| 10 man Troop and Transport/Tank. HQ could be better.
| 10 man Troop and Transport/Tank. HQ could be better. Now discontinued.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''[[Astra Militarum]]'''
| '''[[Astra Militarum]]'''
| Leman Russ Battle Tank, a Cadian Heavy Weapon Team, an Officio Prefectus Commissar and a 10x Cadian Shock Troops
| 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank, 1 Cadian Heavy Weapon Team, 1 Officio Prefectus Commissar and 10 Cadian Shock Troopers.
| $$$
| $$$$
| Great
| Great
| Another kit with whatever you might need to start an army. Once again, multiple kits are a great option to expand.
| Another kit with whatever you might need to start an army. Once again, multiple kits are a great option to expand. The recent increase in the price of Shock Troops makes this an even better deal, though you do miss out on the new upgrade sprue.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''[[Blood Angels]]'''
| '''[[Blood Angels]]'''
| 10-man Blood Angels Tactical Squad, a Blood Angels Terminator Captain and a Baal Predator.
| 10 Blood Angels Tactical Marines, 1 Blood Angels Terminator Captain and 1 Baal Predator.
| $$$
| $
| Okay
| Okay
| [Blood Angels player, please share your options here].
| [Blood Angels players, please share your opinions here]. Now discontinued.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''[[Chaos Space Marines]] (2019)'''
| '''[[Chaos Space Marines]] (2019)'''
| - 1x Master of Possession, 1x Venomcrawler, 2x Obliterators, 2x Greater Possessed and 10x Chaos Space Marines unit.
| 1 Master of Possession, 1 Venomcrawler, 2 Obliterators, 2 Greater Possessed and 10 Chaos Space Marines.
| $$$
| $$$$
| Okay
| Okay
| More of an expansion than a starting point [CSM, please share your options here].
| The chaos half of the Shadowspear box set. From a purely collector's point of view, this is the only way to get Greater Possessed, the Master of Possession, the new Obliterators or the Venomcrawler without scouring around Ebay.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
|  '''[[Craftworld]]s'''
|  '''[[Craftworld]]s'''
| Farseer, 5 Wraithguards/Wraithblades, a Wraithlord, War Walker. Includes a transfer sheet.
| 1 Farseer, 5 Wraithguards/Wraithblades, 1 Wraithlord and 1 War Walker; includes a transfer sheet.
| $$$
| $$$$
| Okay
| Okay
| Good for certain Craftworlds.  
| Good for certain Craftworlds, [[Iyanden]] especially.  
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''Daemons of [[Khorne]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Khorne]]'''
| Herald on Blood Throne, a set of three Bloodcrushers and ten Bloodletters.
| 1 Herald on Blood Throne, 3 Bloodcrushers and 10 Bloodletters.
| $$$
| $
| Good
| Good
| Multiple kits are a good investment, as both 'crushers and 'letters are good. The Blood Throne can be build as a Skull Cannon an kit the herald on a different base with little work. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value, and they also work in Khornate armies.
| Multiple kits are a good investment, as both 'crushers and 'letters are good. The Blood Throne can be build as a Skull Cannon an kit the herald on a different base with little work. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value, and they also work in Khornate armies.
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|-
| '''Daemons of [[Nurgle]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Nurgle]]'''
| Herald of Nurgle, a set of three Plague Drones, a set of three Nurglings and a set of ten Plaguebearers of Nurgle
| 1 Herald of Nurgle, 3 Plague Drones, 3 Nurglings bases and 10 Plaguebearers of Nurgle
| $$$
| $$$$
| Great
| Great
| Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Nurglesque army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value.
| Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Nurglesque army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value.
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|-  
| '''Daemons of [[Slaanesh]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Slaanesh]]'''
| Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh; can be regular or a Hellflayer, 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes.
| 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh (can be regular or a Hellflayer), 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes.
| $$$
| $
| Great
| Great
| Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Slaaneshi army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value.
| Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Slaaneshi army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value.
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| '''Daemons of [[Tzeentch]]'''
| '''Daemons of [[Tzeentch]]'''
|  
| 1 Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foor with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors.
Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foor with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors.
| $$$
| $$$
| Good.
| Good.
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|-
| '''[[Drukhari]]'''
| '''[[Drukhari]]'''
| Succubus, 10 Wyches, a Venom and 3 Reavers.
| 1 Succubus, 10 Wyches, 1 Venom and 3 Reavers.
| $$$
| $$
| ???
| ???
| Quite literally a Start Collecting! Dark Eldar Wyches. Do note that there was a previous Dark Eldar kit, which was more of a Kabal. Need opinion of a Dark Eldar here to help.
| Quite literally a Start Collecting! Dark Eldar Wyches. Do note that there was a previous Dark Eldar kit, which was more of a Kabal. Need opinion of a Dark Eldar player here to help. Now discontinued.
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| Image goes here
|-  
|-  
| '''[[Genestealer Cult]]s'''
| '''[[Genestealer Cult]]s'''
| 1x Acolyte Iconward, 5x Acolyte Hybrids, 10x Neophyte Hybrids, 1x Achilles Ridgerunner.
| 1 Acolyte Iconward, 5 Acolyte Hybrids, 10 Neophyte Hybrids, 1 Achilles Ridgerunner.
| $$$
| $$$
| ???
| ???
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|-
| '''[[Militarum Tempestus]]'''
| '''[[Militarum Tempestus]]'''
| 10 Scions, an Officio Prefectus Commisar and a Taurox Prime.
| 10 Scions, 1 Officio Prefectus Commisar and 1 Taurox Prime.
| $$$
| $$$
| ???
| Great
| Need opinion of an IG here to help.
| Pretty much the bread and butter of any Scion force. Probably the cheapest way to bulk things out; though you might find the extra Commissars unnecessary after the 6th one. While Tauroxes aren't *amazing* by any means, they can put out some useful firepower or be a stable anchor for a more deep-strike heavy Scion force.  
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|-
|-
| '''[[Orks]]'''
| '''[[Orks]]'''
| 1 Painboy, 5 Nobz (and 1 ammo runt), 11 Boyz, 1 Deff Dread
| 1 Painboy, 5 Nobz (and 1 ammo runt), 11 Boyz and 1 Deff Dread
| $$$
| $$$
| Okay
| Okay
| Boyz and Nobz. But the rest is nothing to lose your breath.
| Boyz and Nobz. But the rest is nothing to lose your breath about. Now discontinued.
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| Image goes here
|-
|-
| '''[[Space Marines]]'''
| '''[[Space Marines]]'''
| Terminator Captain, Venerable Dreadnought and 10 Tactical Squad
| 1 Terminator Captain, 1 Venerable Dreadnought and 10 Tactical Marines
| $$$
| $$
| Okay
| Okay/Good(?)
| The most vanilla you can get. Sadly, we are on the Primaris Age.
| The most vanilla you can get. Sadly, we are in the Primaris Age. However, with the new codex, Terminators got better, allowing the Terminator Captain to be a useful asset to them (if you want to go thematic), Tacticals are slightly better (due to their extra wound) and Venerable Dreadnoughts got so much better thanks to the changes to Dreadnoughts in general. Now discontinued.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
|'''[[Space Wolves]]'''
|'''[[Space Wolves]]'''
| 3 Thunderwolves, a Space Marine Commander and 10 Space Wolves Pack
| 3 Thunderwolves, 1 Space Marine Commander and 10 Space Wolves Marines
| $$$
| $$$$
| Okay.
| Okay.
| Should be great, not being for the Combat Patrol.
| Should be great, not being for the Combat Patrol. Even so, the Thunderwolves are still likely going to be of some use. Now discontinued.
|-
|-
| '''[[Tau Empire]]'''
| '''[[Tau Empire]]'''
| Ethereal on Hover Drone, three XV8 Crisis Battlesuits and a ten-man Fire Warriors  
| 1 Ethereal on Hover Drone, 3 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits and 10 Fire Warriors  
| $$$
| $$
| Great
| Great
| Amazing for both starters and expansions. It has everything you might want to get for any army. Buy this instead regular Crisis or Fire Warriors teams, you can even use the ethereals as Fireblades with a bith of kitbashing.
| Amazing for both starters and expansions. It has everything you might want to get for any army. Buy this instead of regular Crisis or Fire Warriors teams, you can even use the ethereals as Fireblades with a bit of kitbashing.
| [Image goes here]
| [Image goes here]
|-
|-
| '''[[Kunbarrasaurus]]'''
| '''[[Thousand Sons]]'''
| 1x Ahriman, 10x Tzaangors, 10x Rubric Marines, 2x Tzaangor Upgrade Packs.
| 1 Ahriman, 10 Rubric Marines and 10 Tzaangors with 2 Tzaangor Upgrade Packs.
| $$$
| $
| Good
| Good
| Good if you need Ahriman.
| Good if you need Ahriman.
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| '''[[Tyranids]]'''
| '''[[Tyranids]]'''
| 8 Genestealers, a Broodlord, a Trygon/Mawloc
| 8 Genestealers, 1 Broodlord and 1 Trygon/Mawloc
| $$$
| $$$
| Good?
| Good
| Need players guide.
| Good value, but terrible as a starter kit. All the units die to a stiff breeze, Genestealers are overcosted and fairly impotent in pre-Codex 9th, and both the Trygon and Mawloc are utility models that only really shine in 2,000-point games and/or with an experienced player. Grab the current(2020) Battleforce instead.
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|-
| '''[[Vanguard Space Marines]]'''
| '''[[Primaris Space Marines|Vanguard Space Marines]]'''
| 1x Lieutenant in Phobos Armour, 3x Suppressors, 3x Eliminators, 10x Infiltrators
| 1 Lieutenant in Phobos Armour, 3 Suppressors, 3 Eliminators and 10 Infiltrators
| $$$
| $$$$
| Good?
| Good?
| Expansion for Space Marines
| Expansion for Space Marines. The only way to get this particular Lieutenant and the Suppressors now, the latter of which can supply some decent firepower if need be. Infiltrators and standard Bolt Sniper Eliminators aren't too bad either, but the former lacks easy ability to be turned into Incursors (but do make up by having the only non-conversion ability to take Helix Adepts for whatever they're worth) and the latter lacks the ability to take Las-fusils. Definitely valuable to some collectors due to the exclusivity of it. Now discontinued.
| [Image goes here]
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|}


===Other ways to start===
=== Other ways to start ===


*Each edition, there is a new Starter Kit with two armies. You can buy them with another player.
*Each edition, there is a new Starter Kit with two armies. You can buy them with another player.
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*Battleforces, each December.
*Battleforces, each December.


*Proxy armies from other companies. Do note that despite most players having 0 problems with this, official GW kits do not condone it.
*Proxy armies from other companies. Do note that despite most players having zero problem with this, official GW stores and tournaments do not permit it.


*Around each two or three months, there is a new Boxed Set featuring two confronting armies. They have savings and great models.
*Around each two or three months, there is a new Boxed Set featuring two confronting armies. They have savings and great models.
[[Category: Games Workshop]]
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]
[[Category: Age of Sigmar]]

Latest revision as of 10:02, 21 June 2023

In the grim darkness of the far past of the 2000-early 2010s, there was only overprice.

The foul forces of Chaos gave the middle finger to the customer. But in their darkest hour, one man would save us all.

Historical Background[edit]

The tabletop gaming hobby was on his historical pick back in the 80s/90s, with the lack of things like internet and lots of more accesible entertainment compared to the modern world. Dungeons & Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and Games Workshop being The Three Kings of The Tabletop, their kingdom would be hit by an accelerating world, and would start to struggle over time. True be told, wargaming in general had brigther times and were more common. Kids wanting to get a box of orcs after passing by a hobby shop started to get less and less common with new videogames and action figures. Maybe a few wanted a set of miniatures after watching Peter Jackson's, but they didn't had the time or patience to build them so they just forget about them. Making things worst, the entry cost became more and more expensive over time due to different reasons. Certain companies started to close, and certain others started to increase the price in order to milk their costumers.

Arguably, Magic and many other TCG would be the ones who better survived, and they are still popular to this day, but his two other brethren would not get so lucky; D&D would live one with books and expansions, and the miniature wargaming would start an even sharper decline by the dawn of the new millenium. Nobody wanted to buy stoopid pieces of resin and pewter at stupid high pieces when they had their awesome Nintendoes and fancy internet that didn't let you use you phone. Noooo, we where the nerds back then, and we are the nerds now.

Until nerd was the new cool.

Why did this happend? Who was responsible of this? Not sure, but at least nowadays people are starting to get interest in the ways of the past, while living with the fruits of thier time.

Yes, there are still pricing discrepancies in Games Workshop's catalogue, but one of the first moves under Rountree's run as CEO of GW was the release of brand new kits, properly named "Start Collecting!", with an exclamation point!

Starting from a humble pool of factions, today a healthy portion of factions from both Age of Sigmar and 40K have at least one, or in select cases, multiple, kits with savings, with the standard prices at $90 USD ($5± in some cases), trying to help out those new possible collectionist to make the jump with a sizable force. And this article, 5 years later of their initial introduction, has been made to help you figuring out where to start.

And, with the help of you, fellow nerds, we can make this article be as helpful as possible.

From a collectionist and/or non-competitive enviroment view point[edit]

Just buy whatever you like. If you want to make a parade army or just collect some neat models for yourself, just get whatever you want. In the end of the day, you will still save money, and get something you like.

From a more competitive point of view[edit]

Saving are fantastic, but sometimes you get more juice from certain lemons than others. We are going to make comprehensible, simple tables in hopes to help newcomers who are still afraid of the hobby being too expensive (wonder thanks to who...), and if you are interested in making your own little army with super weapons, powers and use your tactical knowledge, we can help you, and you can safely ask at your FLGS. The more players, the better.

HEADS UP: we are going to try and help you, but don't think we want to corrupt the new generation. We want you to have a great time!

We are going to rate the kits as GREAT, GOOD, OKAY, and COULD BE BETTER.

For players willing to help: give your opinions on the notes collumn. Trying to make it short and sweet if possible. Just add another point if necessary or if another viewpoint is needed.

Start Collecting![edit]

The namesake of this article, this kits give you one leader and one troop as a minimum, with an additional one or two extra units of another type.

Note that the 40K Start Collecting! kits are being discontinued and replaced with Combat Patrol Boxes. As of late 2021, the Age of Sigmar ones are also starting to be replaced with Vanguard Boxes.

Age of Sigmar Kits[edit]

Name Contents Savings (compared to the kits sold separately) Deal? Notes Image
Beastclaw Raiders 1 Stonehorn/Thundertusk and 4 Mournfangs $ Great 5 miniatures for this price might look expensive, yet you only need 3 of this kits to have a 2000 points army list of heavy hitter cavalry (and durable leaders), and the kitbashing potential and possibility to magnetize the Thuntertusk/Stonehorn rider sit helps. Lots of extra bit are always welcome. [Image goes here]
Anvilgard 1 Black Ark Fleetmaster, 10 Black Ark Corsairs, 1 Kharibdyss/War Hydra and 1 Scourgerunner/Drakespawn chariot $$$ Good Pretty much a Start Collecting! Pirate Dark Elves. [Image goes here]
Beasts of Chaos 1 Great Bray-shaman, 1 Cygor/Ghorgon, 10 Ungors and 10 Bestigors $$$ Great Literally everything you need for a regular in a box. Multiple kits are an option, but you might want to add Tzaangors, Bullgors and some other thing to adapt better your army. Remember, they can also be part of any other of the four main Gods of Chaos armies, so you can use this guys on more and different armies. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Khorne 1 Herald on Blood Throne, 3 Bloodcrushers and 10 Bloodletters. $ Good Multiple kits are a good investment, as both 'crushers and 'letters are good. The Blood Throne can be build as a Skull Cannon an kit the herald on a different base with little work. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value, and they also work in Khornate armies. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Nurgle 1 Herald of Nurgle, 3 Plague Drones, 3 Nurglings bases and 10 Plaguebearers of Nurgle $$$ Great Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Nurglesque army. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Slaanesh 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh (can be regular or a Hellflayer), 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes. $$$ Great Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Slaaneshi army. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Tzeentch 1 Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foot with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors. $ Good. You are pretty much here for the Pink Horrors, which don't come with their Blue or Brimstone counterparts. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Daughters of Khaine 1 Shrine (which can be manned (womanned?) by either a Hag or Slaughter Queen, Bloodwrack Medusa, or Avatar of Khaine) and 5 Melusai Blood Stalkers/Sisters $$$$ Could be better. An expensive kit for an expensive army. It would be much, much better with 10 Sisters of Slaughter/Witches, who are seriously overpriced for Battleines, and even more for a relatively old kit. [Image goes here]
Flesh-Eater Courts 1 Terrorgheist, 3 Crypt Horrors and 10 Crypt Ghouls $$$ Great. Everything you could want. You might get tired of buying multiple boxes due to the Behemoth, but seriously, 9 out of 10 time you need to expand this army, just buy another SC!. It is that reliable. [Image goes here]
Fyreslayers 1 Magmadroth (it can be a mount option for 3 leaders, and you have enough bases to put the two who will not mount it on foot) and 10 Vulkite Berserkers $$$$ Good. At realease, the Magmadroth was too expensive, to the point that they reduced the price and now they are only available on the SC!. Price wise, is excellent, but buying additional kits might not help on the long run as you start to get into bigger games. [Image goes here]
Gloomspite Gitz 1 Loonboss, 3 Rockgut Troggoths, 10 Cave Squigs and 2 Squig Herders. $ Good. Need from dedicated serious GSG players here, there has been debate of how good this this actually is. However, this is a nice starter kit, and your battleline Grots are actually affordable. [Image goes here]
Greywater Fastness 1 Warden King, 1 Cogsmith, 10 Ironbreakers/drakes and 1 Gyromachine ('copter or 'bomber) $$ Good. Start Collecting! Dwarfs all but in name. [Image goes here]
Idoneth Deepkin 1 Isharann Soulrender, 10 Namarti Thralls and 3 Akhelian Guard $ Great. Two or three of this kits makes up for a great core. [Image goes here]
Ironjawz 1 Orruk Warchanter, 3 Orruk Gore-gruntas and 10 Orruk ‘Ardboyz $$ Great Any, ANY, time you need Gore-Gruntas, buy this kit instead. The price for the separated Gorgruntas just can't justify buying them, unless they are gifted or sold for a candy bar. [Image goes here]
Kharadron Overlords 1 Endrinmaster, 5 Grundstok Thunderers, 3 Skywardens and 1 Grundstok Gunhauler $$$$ Good Funny enought, this is more of an expansion kit, given the lack of Battlelines. It still makes for a good kit given that KO are quite an expensive army. [Image goes here]
Khorne Bloodbound Goreblade Warband 1 Mighty Lord of Khorne, 1 Bloodsecrator, 1 Bloodstoker, 1 Khorgorath, 5 Blood Warriors and 10 Bloodreavers $$$$ Good Used to be part of the first Starter Kit for AoS. Despite being monopose and push-fit, buying another kit might be a good idea. [Image goes here]
Maggotkin of Nurgle 1 Lord of Blights, 5 Putrid Blightkings and 2 Pusgoyle Blightlords (optionally one as a Lord of Affliction). $$$ Great All of this kits are extremely durable in battle and quite as expensive in real life. Buy this kit whenever you need Blightkings or lords. [Image goes here]
Malignants 1 Mortis Engine, 3 Spirit Hosts and 5 Hexwraith Cavalry. $ Great Start Collecting! Nighthaunts before the Nighthaunt name was cool. Try to get this box whenever you need extra Hosts or Hexwraiths. [Image goes here]
Seraphon 1 Carnosaur, 8 Saurus Knights and 12 Saurus Warriors $$$ Great THE BEST DEAL. The Carno alone costs as much as the kit. Everytime you need extra Knights, buy this kit. You could buy this when you need warriors too, if you don't mind having a couple of extra Carnos lying around. If you don't want to use the Carno right away, you can use the sprues for the Oldblood on foot. [Image goes here]
Skaven Pestilens 1 Plague Furnace, 1 Plagueclaw and 20 Plague Monks $$ Great Good way to get Monks, and the Furnace and Plague Claws can be built as a Screaming Bell or Warp Lightning Cannon. There is enough bases to make a Grey Seer or Plague Priest on foot. [Image goes here]
Skinks 1 Skink Starpriest, 12 Skinks, 3 Terradon Riders/Ripperdactyl Riders (optionally one as Terradon Chief/Ripperdactyl Chief) and 1 Bastiladon $$$ Great Yet another great way to start or reinforce a Seraphon army. Everything here is worth it and it can be worth to buy a couple more kits. [Image goes here]
Slaves to Darkness 1 Chaos Lord on Karkadrak, 5 Chaos Knights (with the option to build a Doom Knight with a Cursed Flail and Chaos Runeshield) and 10 Warriors of Chaos $$ Great Excellent point for start a new StD army, or one to dedicated to the four main Gods of Chaos. Everyone here is monopose tho, yet everyone has excellent poses. The regular kits for Warriors and Knights are older, but more customizable/posable. [Image]
Stormcast Eternals Thunderstrike Brotherhood 1 Lord-Celestant on Dracoth, 1 Lord-Relictor, 3 Retributors, 10 Liberators (including 2 Liberator-Primes) and 3 Prosecutors $$$$ Good Half of the original Starter Set for AoS. All of them monoposes [Image goes here]
Stormcast Vanguard 1 Lord-Aquilor, 5 Vanguard-Hunters, 3 Vanguard Palladors and 3 Gryph-Hounds $$ Great Works well both as an expansion and starter point if you want a Vanguard army or a Vanguard wing. [Image goes here]
Soulblight Gravelords 1 Wight King on Skeletal Steed, 20 Grave Guards and 5 Black Knights $$$ Great If you plan to play Legion of Blood, this is fine. [Image goes here]
Sylvaneth 1 Branchwych, 1 Treelord and 16 Dryads $$ Great A great starting point and expansion for Sylvaneth. Helps to compensate how expensive your Kurnoth Hunter will be. [Image goes here]

40K Kits[edit]

Name Contents Savings (compared to the kits sold separately) Deal? Notes Image
Adeptus Mechanicus 1 Tech-Priest Enginseer, 10 Skitarii Vanguard/Rangers and 1 Skorpius Dunerider/Disintegrator. $$ Good 10 man Troop and Transport/Tank. HQ could be better. Now discontinued. [Image goes here]
Astra Militarum 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank, 1 Cadian Heavy Weapon Team, 1 Officio Prefectus Commissar and 10 Cadian Shock Troopers. $$$$ Great Another kit with whatever you might need to start an army. Once again, multiple kits are a great option to expand. The recent increase in the price of Shock Troops makes this an even better deal, though you do miss out on the new upgrade sprue. [Image goes here]
Blood Angels 10 Blood Angels Tactical Marines, 1 Blood Angels Terminator Captain and 1 Baal Predator. $ Okay [Blood Angels players, please share your opinions here]. Now discontinued. [Image goes here]
Chaos Space Marines (2019) 1 Master of Possession, 1 Venomcrawler, 2 Obliterators, 2 Greater Possessed and 10 Chaos Space Marines. $$$$ Okay The chaos half of the Shadowspear box set. From a purely collector's point of view, this is the only way to get Greater Possessed, the Master of Possession, the new Obliterators or the Venomcrawler without scouring around Ebay. [Image goes here]
Craftworlds 1 Farseer, 5 Wraithguards/Wraithblades, 1 Wraithlord and 1 War Walker; includes a transfer sheet. $$$$ Okay Good for certain Craftworlds, Iyanden especially. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Khorne 1 Herald on Blood Throne, 3 Bloodcrushers and 10 Bloodletters. $ Good Multiple kits are a good investment, as both 'crushers and 'letters are good. The Blood Throne can be build as a Skull Cannon an kit the herald on a different base with little work. They are compatible with 40K, too, so they have that extra value, and they also work in Khornate armies. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Nurgle 1 Herald of Nurgle, 3 Plague Drones, 3 Nurglings bases and 10 Plaguebearers of Nurgle $$$$ Great Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Nurglesque army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Slaanesh 1 Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh (can be regular or a Hellflayer), 5 Seekers of Slaanesh and 10 Daemonettes. $ Great Multiple kits are a good investment, since this set contains pretty much all you ever want for a Slaaneshi army. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Daemons of Tzeentch 1 Chariot of Tzeentch with Greater Flamer or Herald of Tzeentch on foot (on of the last two has to be on the Chariot, the other can go on foor with the extra supplied bases), 3 Flamers of Tzeentch, 3 Screamers of Tzeentch and 10 Pink Horrors. $$$ Good. You are pretty much here for the Pink Horrors, which don't come with their Blue or Brimstone counterparts. They are compatible with AoS, too, so they have that extra value. [Image goes here]
Drukhari 1 Succubus, 10 Wyches, 1 Venom and 3 Reavers. $$ ??? Quite literally a Start Collecting! Dark Eldar Wyches. Do note that there was a previous Dark Eldar kit, which was more of a Kabal. Need opinion of a Dark Eldar player here to help. Now discontinued. Image goes here
Genestealer Cults 1 Acolyte Iconward, 5 Acolyte Hybrids, 10 Neophyte Hybrids, 1 Achilles Ridgerunner. $$$ ??? Need opinion of a Genestealer Cultist here to help. Image goes here
Militarum Tempestus 10 Scions, 1 Officio Prefectus Commisar and 1 Taurox Prime. $$$ Great Pretty much the bread and butter of any Scion force. Probably the cheapest way to bulk things out; though you might find the extra Commissars unnecessary after the 6th one. While Tauroxes aren't *amazing* by any means, they can put out some useful firepower or be a stable anchor for a more deep-strike heavy Scion force. Image goes here
Orks 1 Painboy, 5 Nobz (and 1 ammo runt), 11 Boyz and 1 Deff Dread $$$ Okay Boyz and Nobz. But the rest is nothing to lose your breath about. Now discontinued. Image goes here
Space Marines 1 Terminator Captain, 1 Venerable Dreadnought and 10 Tactical Marines $$ Okay/Good(?) The most vanilla you can get. Sadly, we are in the Primaris Age. However, with the new codex, Terminators got better, allowing the Terminator Captain to be a useful asset to them (if you want to go thematic), Tacticals are slightly better (due to their extra wound) and Venerable Dreadnoughts got so much better thanks to the changes to Dreadnoughts in general. Now discontinued. [Image goes here]
Space Wolves 3 Thunderwolves, 1 Space Marine Commander and 10 Space Wolves Marines $$$$ Okay. Should be great, not being for the Combat Patrol. Even so, the Thunderwolves are still likely going to be of some use. Now discontinued.
Tau Empire 1 Ethereal on Hover Drone, 3 XV8 Crisis Battlesuits and 10 Fire Warriors $$ Great Amazing for both starters and expansions. It has everything you might want to get for any army. Buy this instead of regular Crisis or Fire Warriors teams, you can even use the ethereals as Fireblades with a bit of kitbashing. [Image goes here]
Thousand Sons 1 Ahriman, 10 Rubric Marines and 10 Tzaangors with 2 Tzaangor Upgrade Packs. $ Good Good if you need Ahriman. [Image goes here]
Tyranids 8 Genestealers, 1 Broodlord and 1 Trygon/Mawloc $$$ Good Good value, but terrible as a starter kit. All the units die to a stiff breeze, Genestealers are overcosted and fairly impotent in pre-Codex 9th, and both the Trygon and Mawloc are utility models that only really shine in 2,000-point games and/or with an experienced player. Grab the current(2020) Battleforce instead. [Image goes here]
Vanguard Space Marines 1 Lieutenant in Phobos Armour, 3 Suppressors, 3 Eliminators and 10 Infiltrators $$$$ Good? Expansion for Space Marines. The only way to get this particular Lieutenant and the Suppressors now, the latter of which can supply some decent firepower if need be. Infiltrators and standard Bolt Sniper Eliminators aren't too bad either, but the former lacks easy ability to be turned into Incursors (but do make up by having the only non-conversion ability to take Helix Adepts for whatever they're worth) and the latter lacks the ability to take Las-fusils. Definitely valuable to some collectors due to the exclusivity of it. Now discontinued. [Image goes here]

Other ways to start[edit]

  • Each edition, there is a new Starter Kit with two armies. You can buy them with another player.
  • Battleforces, each December.
  • Proxy armies from other companies. Do note that despite most players having zero problem with this, official GW stores and tournaments do not permit it.
  • Around each two or three months, there is a new Boxed Set featuring two confronting armies. They have savings and great models.