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[[File: | [[File:Gremlin twilight zone.jpg|thumb|250px|A gremlin's favorite pastime is scaring hammy actors.]] | ||
'''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt. | '''Gremlins''' are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a [[goblin]]-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt. | ||
Up to 1983 the most famous | Up to 1983 the most famous gremlins in popular culture were the one Richard Matheson sicced on William Shatner in the ''Twilight Zone'' episode "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" and the weird little gremlin Bob Clampett had torment Bugs Bunny in the 1943 ''Merrie Melodies'' cartoon "Falling Hare". | ||
[[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French. | [[Dungeons & Dragons]] overlooked this breed until [[AD&D|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]], when in GenCon XI that post-[[Monster Manual]] [[Jermlaine]] filled that niche - perhaps from the French. | ||
Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s | Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s because of the ''Twilight Zone'' movie and then a [[Skub|<s>disgustingly bad</s> delightfully campy]] Stephen Spielberg-produced Joe Dante outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere. | ||
Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. | Gremlins most commonly appear in [[dieselpunk]] or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-[[gnome]]s. | ||
==D&D== | ==D&D== | ||
[[File:Gremlin MM 2e.png|thumb|200px|The Standard Gremlin]] | |||
In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the [[goblinoid]] family that resemble [[imp]]s. [[Fiend Folio]] didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as [[jermlaine]]-related ([[mite]] aka pestie, then snyad). [[Tom Moldvay]] brought them into the "unadvanced" line through [[X2: Castle Amber]]. Thence they entered the [[Companion Set]] where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose. | |||
Second Edition was the heyday of this genus. By 1993 the Monstrous Manual had for the Gremlin category five different kinds: the standard gremlin, the '''Fremlin''' (''Fr''iendly gr''emlin''), and the aforementioned '''Galltrit''', '''[[Mite]]''', and '''Snyad'''. For whatever reason the [[Jermlaine]] were NOT so annexed; they're listed on their own as "Gremlin, Jermlaine". Also this Manual claimed all the big five have wings and small tails, which had not been true of mites and snyads up to now (especially since these live in tiny underground passageways, like the jermlaine); so the "mite" entry has to go backsies on that. Since [[Lorraine Williams|a gremlin was running TSR at the time]], arguably she'd know best. | |||
[[Ravenloft]] is home to its own divergent member of the species, the wingless [[gremishka]]. | [[Ravenloft]] is home to its own divergent member of the species, the wingless [[gremishka]], which is clearly based on the gremlins from the 1984 movie. | ||
WotC was slow to bring back any of these for Third Edition, only including the [[Jermlaine]] and that had to await the second Monster Manual volume. (Why not the 3e Fiend Folio? Dunno!) | |||
[[Frog God Games|Necromancer]] jumped into the gap, and for ''[[Tome of Horrors]]'' included the Mite again. Although, this has them as goblinoid (perhaps to avoid the 2e classifications) and disassociates the pestie into a subtype. The third Tome volume has a separate entry on gremlins. Obviously none of this is D&D canon. | |||
===Fremlin PCs=== | |||
Fremlins actually got promoted to playable status in the [[Complete Book Series|Complete Book of Humanoids]], where they were actually pretty mechanically powerful - a 10th level Small-sized wizard with at-will flight and immunity to mundane weapons can do a LOT of damage if you're smart... sadly, they got saddled with fluff that basically turns them into the most ''annoying'' flavor of 80s kid-appeal nonhuman sidekicks if you play it accurately. As you can expect, not a lot of [[Dungeon Master]]s were willing to put up with a player playing [[Masters of the Universe|Orko]] or [[Thundercats|Snarf]]. | |||
What? You don't believe us? The Complete Book of Humanoids '''directly''' says that whilst fremlins have some useful skills and abilities, they are usually played for comic relief, and outright calls them "annoying, obnoxious, and easily insulted". Direct quote: they seldom assist in combat and often wind up hindering the efforts of their companions by giving away hiding locations or making other "innocent" blunders. They're also huge cowards who tend to flee at the first sign of trouble, whiners, lazy, inveterate pranksters, and outright worthless in combat because they refuse to use weapons... although that last part isn't mechanically enforced, so you are more than welcome to ignore that piece of garbage. | |||
::Ability Score Minimum/Maximum: Strength 2/11, Dexterity 8/18, Constitution 4/13, Intelligence 6/18, Wisdom 3/16, Charisma 3/18 | |||
::Ability Score Adjustments: +2 Dexterity, +1 Intelligence, -3 Strength | |||
::Racial Class/Level Limits: [[Wizard]] 10 ([[Mage]], [[Illusionist]]), [[Thief]] 12 | |||
::Natural Armor Class: 6 | |||
::Special Advantages: | |||
:::Immune to normal weapons: requires +1 or better enchanted weapons to hit. | |||
:::Flight with Movement Speed 12 and Maneuverability Class B. | |||
::Special Disadvantages: Fremlins can only wield weapons that have been specifically sized for their tiny frames, which thusly deal 1/3rd normal damage. | |||
::Monstrous Traits: Appearance, Size (Small) | |||
::Superstitions: Fremlins are afraid of almost everything. | |||
::Weapon Proficiencies: Dagger, Pixie Sword, other weapons scaled for their size. | |||
::Nonweapon Proficiencies: Begging, danger sense, drinking, eating, fortune telling, gaming, hiding, reading/writring, set snares, spellcraft | |||
==Pathfinder== | ==Pathfinder== | ||
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Various gremlinkind debuted in the [[Pathfinder]] [[adventure path]] ''Legacy of Fire'', at least for its opening act ''Howl of the Carrion King'' - and indeed, in the desert you do ''not'' want to meet up with them. They also infest the Darklands. They've shown up in various Bestiaries. | Various gremlinkind debuted in the [[Pathfinder]] [[adventure path]] ''Legacy of Fire'', at least for its opening act ''Howl of the Carrion King'' - and indeed, in the desert you do ''not'' want to meet up with them. They also infest the Darklands. They've shown up in various Bestiaries. | ||
== | ==Monstergirls== | ||
{{Monstergirls}} | |||
Gremlin | |||
Gremlin | [[File:MGE Gremlin.jpg|thumb|right]] | ||
The gremlins in That Movie reproduce asexually, either directly or else from mogwai. In the sequel, which was a sight better than the original, several full-fledged gremlins break into a bio lab. Relevant here, one takes a massive shot of hormones. Where they had been agents of pure spiteful destruction, which would mostly be coded "male"; this one went femme. | |||
Oh yeah. Gremlin monstergirls are a thing. | |||
The mamono is an imp-like (obviously) [[Beastfolk|beastgirl]] with an innate knack for [[magitek]]. This one is more constructive, like a gnome; a master [[artificer]] who builds all manner of perverse and sexual devices. | |||
[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]] | [[Category: Dungeons & Dragons Races]] [[Category: Monsters]] |
Latest revision as of 09:33, 21 June 2023
Gremlins are a kind of monster originating from Britain "neo-mythology", having been concocted by members of the British Royal Air Force within the 1920s as a goblin-like creature that loves mechanical devices and tinkering - or, more accurately, breaking things, especially to get people hurt.
Up to 1983 the most famous gremlins in popular culture were the one Richard Matheson sicced on William Shatner in the Twilight Zone episode "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet" and the weird little gremlin Bob Clampett had torment Bugs Bunny in the 1943 Merrie Melodies cartoon "Falling Hare".
Dungeons & Dragons overlooked this breed until Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, when in GenCon XI that post-Monster Manual Jermlaine filled that niche - perhaps from the French.
Gremlins by that name became famous again in the 1980s because of the Twilight Zone movie and then a disgustingly bad delightfully campy Stephen Spielberg-produced Joe Dante outing. So of course various roleplaying games had to catch up and include them somewhere.
Gremlins most commonly appear in dieselpunk or urban fantasy settings, where their status as magical creatures that love to meddle with machines makes most sense. Settings aiming more to fantasy, like D&D noted above, will portray them as a particularly nasty goblin or faerie creature with a particular knack for traps. They are the anti-gnomes.
D&D[edit]
In Dungeons & Dragons, at least in AD&D, gremlins are described as a member of the goblinoid family that resemble imps. Fiend Folio didn't define them but did describe several monsters either as gremlins (galltrit) or as jermlaine-related (mite aka pestie, then snyad). Tom Moldvay brought them into the "unadvanced" line through X2: Castle Amber. Thence they entered the Companion Set where, as usual, they appear out of alphabetic order. They wouldn't have it any other way, we suppose.
Second Edition was the heyday of this genus. By 1993 the Monstrous Manual had for the Gremlin category five different kinds: the standard gremlin, the Fremlin (Friendly gremlin), and the aforementioned Galltrit, Mite, and Snyad. For whatever reason the Jermlaine were NOT so annexed; they're listed on their own as "Gremlin, Jermlaine". Also this Manual claimed all the big five have wings and small tails, which had not been true of mites and snyads up to now (especially since these live in tiny underground passageways, like the jermlaine); so the "mite" entry has to go backsies on that. Since a gremlin was running TSR at the time, arguably she'd know best.
Ravenloft is home to its own divergent member of the species, the wingless gremishka, which is clearly based on the gremlins from the 1984 movie.
WotC was slow to bring back any of these for Third Edition, only including the Jermlaine and that had to await the second Monster Manual volume. (Why not the 3e Fiend Folio? Dunno!)
Necromancer jumped into the gap, and for Tome of Horrors included the Mite again. Although, this has them as goblinoid (perhaps to avoid the 2e classifications) and disassociates the pestie into a subtype. The third Tome volume has a separate entry on gremlins. Obviously none of this is D&D canon.
Fremlin PCs[edit]
Fremlins actually got promoted to playable status in the Complete Book of Humanoids, where they were actually pretty mechanically powerful - a 10th level Small-sized wizard with at-will flight and immunity to mundane weapons can do a LOT of damage if you're smart... sadly, they got saddled with fluff that basically turns them into the most annoying flavor of 80s kid-appeal nonhuman sidekicks if you play it accurately. As you can expect, not a lot of Dungeon Masters were willing to put up with a player playing Orko or Snarf.
What? You don't believe us? The Complete Book of Humanoids directly says that whilst fremlins have some useful skills and abilities, they are usually played for comic relief, and outright calls them "annoying, obnoxious, and easily insulted". Direct quote: they seldom assist in combat and often wind up hindering the efforts of their companions by giving away hiding locations or making other "innocent" blunders. They're also huge cowards who tend to flee at the first sign of trouble, whiners, lazy, inveterate pranksters, and outright worthless in combat because they refuse to use weapons... although that last part isn't mechanically enforced, so you are more than welcome to ignore that piece of garbage.
- Ability Score Minimum/Maximum: Strength 2/11, Dexterity 8/18, Constitution 4/13, Intelligence 6/18, Wisdom 3/16, Charisma 3/18
- Ability Score Adjustments: +2 Dexterity, +1 Intelligence, -3 Strength
- Racial Class/Level Limits: Wizard 10 (Mage, Illusionist), Thief 12
- Natural Armor Class: 6
- Special Advantages:
- Immune to normal weapons: requires +1 or better enchanted weapons to hit.
- Flight with Movement Speed 12 and Maneuverability Class B.
- Special Disadvantages: Fremlins can only wield weapons that have been specifically sized for their tiny frames, which thusly deal 1/3rd normal damage.
- Monstrous Traits: Appearance, Size (Small)
- Superstitions: Fremlins are afraid of almost everything.
- Weapon Proficiencies: Dagger, Pixie Sword, other weapons scaled for their size.
- Nonweapon Proficiencies: Begging, danger sense, drinking, eating, fortune telling, gaming, hiding, reading/writring, set snares, spellcraft
Pathfinder[edit]
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Various gremlinkind debuted in the Pathfinder adventure path Legacy of Fire, at least for its opening act Howl of the Carrion King - and indeed, in the desert you do not want to meet up with them. They also infest the Darklands. They've shown up in various Bestiaries.
Monstergirls[edit]
This article or section is about Monstergirls (or a monster that is frequently depicted as a Monstergirl), something that /tg/ widely considers to be the purest form of awesome. Expect PROMOTIONS! and /d/elight in equal measure, often with drawfaggotry or writefaggotry to match. |
The gremlins in That Movie reproduce asexually, either directly or else from mogwai. In the sequel, which was a sight better than the original, several full-fledged gremlins break into a bio lab. Relevant here, one takes a massive shot of hormones. Where they had been agents of pure spiteful destruction, which would mostly be coded "male"; this one went femme.
Oh yeah. Gremlin monstergirls are a thing.
The mamono is an imp-like (obviously) beastgirl with an innate knack for magitek. This one is more constructive, like a gnome; a master artificer who builds all manner of perverse and sexual devices.