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[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 '''Homestuck'''] (also known as Hamsteak) is a [[webcomic]] written by one Andrew Hussie. It is but one of the comics featured on his website, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 MS Paint Adventures], which is often abbreviated into MSPA. It is famous for being even more WORDS WORDS WORDS than [[Fail|Ctrl+Alt+Delete]], having a shit-ton of characters and one of the most <s>annoying</s> <s>[[rage|''wonderful'']]</s> prominent fanbases in existence. For this reason it is often referred to on [[/tg/]] as [[skub|Homeskub]].
[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 '''Homestuck'''] (also known as '''Hamsteak''' or '''Homosuck''') is a [[webcomic]] written by one Andrew Hussie. It is but one of the comics featured on his website, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001901 MS Paint Adventures], which is often abbreviated into MSPA. It is famous for being even more WORDS WORDS WORDS than [[Fail|Ctrl+Alt+Delete]], having a shit-ton of characters and one of the most <s>annoying</s> <s>[[rage|''wonderful'']]</s> [[Skub|prominent]] fanbases in existence. For this reason it was often referred to on [[4chan]] as [[skub|Homeskub]] during its heyday.
'''Spoilers ahoy.'''
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== What is Homestuck? ==
== What is Homestuck? ==
Homestuck began on April 13th 2009, one month after the creator's previous story, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=000219 Problem Sleuth], had ended. It started out in the same vein as its predecessors; a [[Quest]]-style comic run soley by user input. The first three stories, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=1&p=000002 Jailbreak] (left unfinished for ages, then wrapped up hastily two thirds of the way through Homestuck), [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=2&p=000136 Bardquest] (a multiple choice experiment that was abandoned very early), and Problem Sleuth (actually finished, and whose unexpected popularity directly precipitated Homestuck) channeled [[Old School Roleplaying|old-school point-and-click adventure games]] based of a man trying to escape prison, a [[bard]] in his quest to slay a [[dragon]], and a hard-boiled private investigator trying to leave his absurd office respectively. Andrew Hussie went in a different direction with his newest work, by making it about a group of early teenagers who chat and play video games online. Homestuck begins with goofy young hero John Egbert getting his hands on beta copies of a hot new game called Sburb for his birthday. What looks like a novel team-based version of the Sims takes a crazy turn when the game reveals powerful reality-warping properties, and matters soon begin to escalate as John and co find themselves [[Exterminatus|surviving meteors]], [[Primarchs|cloning themselves]], [[Rip and Tear|fighting all sorts of monsters]], [[heresy|dealing with aliens of various degrees of friendliness and/or bloodthirst]] and ultimately facing an immortal [[Doctor Who|Time Lord]] demonic time-travelling crime boss seeking [[Rage|terrible and destructive ends]]. All the MS Paint Adventures are notable for being more than regular comic strips; Homestuck frequently includes simple animations, occasional Flash animations of escalating complexity, entire flash games, and a soundtrack that covers several dozen albums. You can also buy printed versions of the comic from the website in case you want a hands on experience, but that means missing out on the flash goodness. So not only do you read Homestuck, you watch it, play it, listen to it and (maybe) buy it.
Homestuck began on April 13th 2009, one month after the creator's previous story, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=4&p=000219 Problem Sleuth], had ended. It started out in the same vein as its predecessors; a [[Quest]]-style comic run solely by user input. The first three stories, [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=1&p=000002 Jailbreak] (left unfinished for ages, then wrapped up hastily partway through Homestuck), [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=2&p=000136 Bardquest] (a multiple choice experiment that was abandoned very early and will likely never be finished), and Problem Sleuth (actually finished, and whose unexpected popularity directly precipitated Homestuck) channeled [[Old School Roleplaying|old-school point-and-click adventure games]] based of a man trying to escape prison, a [[bard]] in his quest to slay a [[dragon]], and a hard-boiled private investigator trying to leave his absurd office respectively.
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=== Who are these douchebags? ===
Aka, the character primer. Homestuck has over the course of its three and a half years of existence amassed a spectaculary huge cast of characters. There are four kids who each have their own guardian/pet, Consort, Denizen, Exile, Archagent, [[Salamanders|Wise Black Man]] and more. This is discounting the Trolls and their associated characters, who increase this total by roughly four dozen, and many more beyond.
==== Kids ====
The four "main" characters of Homestuck are the Kids. They are the initial players of Sburb and have SHIT GO REAL on them.
| '''John Egbert''' <br> ectoBiologist (formerly ghostlyTrickster) || Heir of Breath || [[Warhammer|Hammerkind]] || Nanna/Dad || The closest thing the comic has to a main character, John is the guy we know the most about. He's a bit of a [[/tg/|jerk but is good and genuine to his friends]] , loves cheesy movies (Nicolas Cage being his personal hero), has some serious [[derp]] moments but is smart, has solid intentions and is quite brave. He started off the weakest of the bunch of kids and has developed the slowest, but has steadily caught by present day and is seen one-shotting endgame critters in droves; seeing as his equals can travel through time on a whim or [[rip and tear|teleport your guts straight out of your body]] this really says something.
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| '''Rose Lalonde''' <br> [[Illithid|tentacleTherapist]] || Seer of Light || Needlekind || Mom/Jaspers || Rose is intelligent, sarcastic and thinks that everyone but she has issues of some kind. A big fan of the works of [[Lovecraft]] and Freud, she derives no small pleasure from psychoanalysing others and seeing what skeletons pop out. In spite of her outward snark she cares for her friends and alcoholic mother and will protect and help them any way she can. Went [[grimdark]] at one point, but it did not stick.
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| '''Dave Strider''' <br> turntechGodhead || Knight of Time || 1/2swordkind || Bro/Cal || The coolkid. Dave knows everything about being smooth, hip and ironic, or at least he thinks he does. Actually has an inferiority complex where he thinks he sucks compared to his impossibly badass bro (he doesn't). He is also the author of the tremendously shitty webcomic ''Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff'' which is so bad it curves back on the badness scale and becomes solidly awesome again. Other hobbies of his include mixing music, rap, photography and keeping up with internet pop culture (again, mostly ironically). He also mastered the ability to flash step; how his older brother taught him this is unknown.
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| '''Jade Harley''' <br> gardenGnostic || Witch of Space || [[Dakka|Riflekind]] || Grandpa/[[Chaos Spawn|Becquerel]] || The resident "strange genki girl", Jade grew up alone on an island in the Pacific with only her grandfather, her devil-dog Becquerel and her internet friends to keep her company. She is quite skilled in the ways of nuclear science, is a crack shot and has bouts of narcolepsy. Not that she suffers because of this: she has a "dream bot" that allows her to fly around and interact with her home when she's asleep. Though quite friendly and energetic, she will drop the attitude fast when she feels threatened. She also enjoys gardening, playing the flute and bass (not at the same time) and watching tv shows with [[furry|anthropomorphic animals]], but she would not dream of wearing a fursuit. Ironically becomes part dog later on in the story via "shenanigans".
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== What is Sburb? ==
Sburb is the fictional game that got the plot rolling. It is a combination of The Sims, Spore and [[Minecraft]], with a bit of Earthbound thrown in. The main "goal" of the game (much ignored and treat as the excuse plot that it is by the protagonists) is to defeat the Black King of Derse and claim his scepter to stop The Reckoning, [[Exterminatus|an event that unleashes massive desturctio via a rain of meteors.]] The real goal underlining all this is, via cooperation with the White Kingdom of Prospit, a series of shaky political dealings with powerful god/demon entities called The Denizens (one is assigned to each player upon entering the game) and a extensive and convoluted sidequest about frog breeding, to create a whole new universe for you and your co-players to live in. Sburb is by nature a multiplayer game, with two players as a base minimal, and the highest known number of players in a single session being 48. This number needs to be even, lest there be dire consequences.
The game itself is described best as an intricate [[LARP]] supplemented by [[Video_games|vidja]] elements. You are the player and as you play you personally level up, gain special powers, magic items and may even transcend humanity. But more on that later.
=== Getting Started ===
To start the game you need fellow players and one copy of the game's Client and Server disks for each. You install the Client disk while your a fellow player installs the Server disk, making you the "client player" to his/hers "server player". Each player installs their disks so that everyone is both a server for and client of another player.
This does not immediately change anything for the client, but the server will see the following screen focused on the player. [http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002038 This menu bar is where it all happens.] This grants the player three cursor options and four menus:
* The Select cursor allows the server to pick up and move objects. This expends Grist, the games abstract construction resource; the heavier/larger the object, the more it costs to pick something up.
* The Revise cursor lets the server player build: walls, stairs, ladders, roofs and so on. As above: the bigger the construction the more Build Grist it costs. For example, a ladder costs more than a flight of stairs, which costs more than a small-sized floor.
* The Deploy cursor interacts with the Phernalla Registry as listed below; it allows for game objects to be placed within the world.
* The Phernalia Registry is the game's inventory. It can hold objects created by the game itself (more on that later) and objects created with them.
* The Grist Cache is where Grist is stored, starting with basic Build Grist and expanding to include many others along the player's journey.
* The Explore Atheneum is a store of some kind: players can spend Grist to gain access to new game objects and upgrades for the existing ones.
* The Alchemy Excursus is where the crafting recipies discovered during the game are stored.
At the beginning of the game, the Phernalla Registry will have five items in it that are essential to the progress of the game:
* The Cruxtruder needs to be activated in order to start the game, revealing a countdown until a [[Exterminatus|meteor strikes]] the player's home, setting the player's first real deadline in the game. It can also extrude an endless amount of Cruxite Dowels (ootlong cylinders of mysterious sculptable material in the color associated with the player.
* The Totem Lathe is designed to carve Cruxite Dowels into usable shapes, depending on the inserted Punched Card(s) ( more on this later).
* The Alchemiter can "read" carved Cruxite Dowels and from the pattern create an object they represent. This is obviously a massively powerful and important ability, as the Alchemiter can literally *poof* any object into existance so long as the appropriately carve Cruxite Dowel is presented to it. The Alchmetier can be upgraded (and indeed the typical player upgrades it extensively over the course of the game).
An important thing to note before the rest of the Phernalia is the matter of the player's inventories. Each player has their own personalised video game inventory that seemingly exists outside the realms of Sburb and allows them to carry around vast quantities of potentially very large items, provided the player carries enough Captchalogue Cards (disposable sheets of magic rigid card that disappear into the modus when not in use). While useful, the Fetch Modii are based on a mixture of novelty game logic and data storage structures, and are a pain in the ass to retrieve items from at times. The difficulties presented by the various Modii are part of the challenges of the early comic, having a smaller but still notable presence later on.
* The Punch Designix can turn Captchalogue Cards into Punched Cards, which can then be used to carve Cruxite Dowels and thus Alchemize more items. Players enter a code obtained from the back of a Capchalogue card and insert a Capchalogue card which is then punched. It is important to note that the code punched into the card does not need to match the code on the card, meaning you can punch empty cards and save the original object as punching a card locks the item in.
* The Pre-Punched Card is a one-off item vital for starting the game successfully; it contains your Cruxite Artifact and is the first object a player must craft and interact with in order to enter the game.
The steps to crafting new items via the Alchemization process is as follows:
* Obtain the objects you wish to combine to create an item.
* Obtain a Cruxite Dowel from the Cruxtruder.
* Read the code on the back of the Captchalogue card, enter it into the Punch Designix and punch a card. A code consists of eight digits with letters A-Z (with a difference between capital and lower case), numbers 0-9 and the ? and !, for a total of 64^8=281.474.976.710.656 (281 quadrillion) different combinations. You now have a punched card.
* Take the card and the Dowel to the Totem Lathe. Insert the Dowel and the card in that order to get a Carved Totem.
* Put the Totem on the pedestal of the Alchemiter. If you have enough Grist, the Alchemiter will substract an amount from your Grist Cache and create the item. Totems are infinitely reusable when they are made.
One of the first items a player should make is a Capchalogue Card. When you have a Carved Totem based on one (code 00000000), you can make Capchalogue Cards at the cost of 1 Grist of your choice. This is very useful when crafting a large batch of items in one go.
=== Entering the Medium ===
The first act to playing a game of Sburb is the removal of the lid from the Cruxtruder. A heavy blow or dropping something large on it will work (this is where the server player comes in handy), releasing a powerful source of energy called the Kernelsprite and "starting" a countdown anywhere between 3 minutes and 25 hours. Two things must be achieved in this time: prototyping the Kernelsprite; and creating and interacting with the Cruxite Artifact.
Prototyping a Kernelsprite is simple: toss or drop something, ANYTHING into it. The item is absorbed into the Kernelsprite and gives it a form, empowering it for the rest of the game. Later, the Kernelsprite will shed its core to become two Kernel halves and a lone Sprite. The Kernels fly off to the kingdoms of Prospit and Derse, where they will radiate great power that shape both the forces of good and evil in the story. The Sprite, meanwhile, hangs around the players as their own personal ghostly mentor and assistant, getting them into the early stages of the game and being a helping hand through to the end. Protoype whatever you like, but remember that whatever you pick will be a double-edged sword: the more useful item you throw into it the more powerful both your friends and enemies will be. It may not be in your best interests to throw in your [[Bloodthirster]] or your [[Nicol Bolas]] card, unless getting swamped by monstrous powerful enemies right out the gate and having a demonic monstrosity be your "helpful" guide sounds like fun to you. Prototyping must be done once, but may be done a second time, which can happen before or after the splitting of the Kernel (depending on whether you want it to affect your enemies and allies or just your sprite assistant). Failing to prototype pre-entry will cause something terrible to happen with the two kingdoms and renders the game unwinnable.
Interacting with the Cruxite Artifact is more difficult. The player will be prseented with an object symbolic of departure somehow, be it an apple to be bitten (the loss of innocence as with original sin), a bottle to be smashed(christening a ship), an egg to be hatched (leaving the nest) or a puppydog pinata to be smashed (leave the grim imagery to your own imagination there). Figuring out what needs to be done to satisfy the artifact needs to be done quickly, and failure to do this results in a meteor flattening the players house before the game even begins.
If all goes to plan, the player, their house and anyone else in it at the time is whisked away into the mystical realm called The Medium, a place of cosmic significance tailored to each player in the game and where the action takes place.
Because a player cannot access their own phernalia register among other things, a lone player can never enter medium by themselves, but must do so through the assistance of their Server player. Similarly, such is the nature of the demands of Serverhood that said player would best wait until after they've escorted their Client in that they make a move to enter themselves, at which point their Server steps up. Doing so in turn will gradually involve all the players introducing each other in turn to the game world, with the last entree being led in by the first to make it.
=== The Incipisphere ===
Players will find themselves within the heart of the Medium, a strange place called the Incipisphere, where the meat of gameplay occurs. Each Incipisphere is comprised by a number of planets, orbiting a larger body in the centre. In detail:
* Every player in a session has one planets devoted towards them, referred to as their Land. This will be the primary location for their quests, though over the course of their journey they can visit each other's Lands. They all follow the naming convention of having a pair of words, the first of which is monosyllabic, which then tends to be abbreviated; John's Land is the Land of Wind and Shade for instance, typically abbreviated to LOWAS. (one known exception overrides this to have an extra word in the name so it spelled [[meme|LOLCAT]]). A convenient property of the Medium in which the Lands float is that in their transition from Earth, the players' homes kept their electricity, the internet and possibly plumbing working of their lack of connection. The Medium itself also provides all its locations with air and oxygen apply and a comfortable atmospheric pressure and temperature without any discernible source. The exact workings of gravity while in the Medium is unknown, but there seems to be no inertia while floating around in there. Perhaps it is related to the [[Planescape#The_Primary_Elemental_Planes|Elemental Plane of Air]], but there is little known about the nature of the Medium. Every of the player's Lands have seven Gates located high above the player's houses; each must be traveled through in order to reach the mighty Battlefield at the heart of the Incipisphere and achieve the goal of the game.
Andrew Hussie went in a different direction with his newest work, by making it about a group of early teenagers who chat and play video games online. Homestuck begins with goofy young hero John Egbert getting his hands on beta copies of a hot new game called Sburb for his birthday. What looks like a novel team-based version of the Sims takes a crazy turn when the game reveals powerful reality-warping properties, and matters soon begin to escalate as John and company find themselves [[Exterminatus|surviving meteors]], [[Primarchs|cloning themselves]], [[Rip and Tear|fighting all sorts of monsters]], [[heresy|dealing with aliens of various degrees of friendliness and/or blood thirst]] and ultimately facing an immortal [[Doctor Who|Time Lord]] demonic time-traveling minmaxing crime boss seeking [[Rage|terrible and destructive ends]].
* In the midst of the Incipisphere rest Skaia, a great and mystical blue body said to possess "limitless creative potential". The great fluffy clouds that forever cross its skies bear mystic (if often confusing) portents to those who would gaze upon them, while deep within Skaia lies the greatest planet of them all, the Battlefield, where long before the players arrived a might war rages. Finally, on the outskirts of Skaia swings the golden planet of Prospit, a glittering world of light that supplies one of those two aforementioned armies.
* The Veil is a belt of asteroids that circles the far borders of the Incipisphere. They contain numerous labs, facilities and installations needed to continue the war between Prospit and Derse.
Beyond the Incipishere lies the Furthest Ring, a [[Warp|Realm without reason or logic, where time and space mean nothing]] [[Chaos Gods|and is inhabited by a pantheon of unspeakable horrors]] [[Call of Cthulhu|whose true forms would drive any mortal insane]].
All the MS Paint Adventures are notable for being more than regular comic strips; Homestuck frequently includes simple animations, occasional Flash animations of escalating complexity, entire flash games, and a soundtrack that covers several dozen albums. You can also buy printed versions of the comic from the website in case you want a hands on experience, but that means missing out on the flash goodness and razing acres of forest. So not only do you read Homestuck, you watch it, play it, listen to it and (maybe) buy it.
==== Prospit and Derse ====
Homestuck has over the course of its seven years of existence amassed a spectacularly huge cast of characters. There are four kids who each have their own guardian/pet, Consort, Denizen, Exile, Archagent, [[Salamanders|Wise Black Man]] and more. Then there are the Trolls and their associated characters, who increase this total by roughly four dozen, and many more beyond. The cast was then further doubled by introducing the kid versions of the Kids' guardians and the Trolls' ancestors via parallel universe shenanigans. This all gets very complicated, and there is good reason to believe that Hussie was duplicating of parts of the cast solely to bait the fandom into shipping (for his own perverse lolz).
Sooner or later you discover you have another body when you fall asleep: your "dream self". You will also discover that this person wakes up in a room that looks just like your bedroom (except in either yellow or purple) on the moon of either Prospit or Derse. These are the two kingdoms that fight the war on the battlefield.
While these dream selves share the same abilities that you have they have no access to your inventory: anything you do you will have to do with your own wit and skills, more espionage and intelligence work than outright warfare. To compensate for this you are given one ability in return: based on what planet you are on you get either prophetic images of the future when you peer into the clouds of Skaia, or you can [[heresy|converse with the members of the Noble Circle of Horrorterrors]] who reside in the Furthest Ring.
It finally ended on April 13th 2016 after 2 gigantic pauses that disbanded the fandom (a lot of them jumping ship to Toby Fox (a composer for Homestuck)'s equally [[skub]] [[/v/|Undertale]]), including the retconning of several hundred pages with time travel shenanigans, and ''ye gods'' it was about time. For both the fandom and the comic.
There is a difference to how Prospit and Derse treat the players: Prospit sees them as heroes and saviors in a war they are destined to lose, while Derse opposes them. It is difficult for Dersites to harm the players because of a set of rules in place that prevents them from attacking the players before the full-out war begins.
Real fandoms don't die, they go god tier.
==== The Battlefield ====
At the center of Skaia is the Battlefield, a [[chess]]-like location where the final parts of the game takes place. Its shape depends on the number of prototypings that have taken place. Unprototyped it resembles a 3x chess boards with the only pieces on it are two kings locked in a never-ending game: one black and one white. If you have a basic grasp of chess you will realize this is an eternal stalemate. But as more and more prototypings take place, the battlefield changes. A single prototyping increases its size to a large chess board with multiple pieces on it, a second turns it into a massive cube, a third into a sphere and a fourth adds a series of non-euclidean tentacle-ridges around the sphere.
While being mainly a series of black and white checked hills and plains, there are some features including fertile ground for growing crops, bodies of water, forests and castles.
=== Residents of the Incipisphere ===
The players are not alone in the Incipisphere. A number of beings reside on the players' planets, Prospit, Derse and the Battlefield.
==== Carapacians ====
The peoples referred to as the Carapacians (because of their tough exoskeletons) are the inhabitants of Prospit and Derse. They are on average shorter than an adult human and a slight bit stockier. While not more difficult to directly kill than humans, they are less likely to succumb to wounds to non-critical locations and are less likely to bleed out. The lower-ranking Carapaces have dentures that consist solely of molars, while the higher-ranking Carapaces possess arrays of cutting teeth for eating meat.
The King and Queen are both Carapacians, as are their subjects (commonly referred to as pawns or agents, depending on their activeness in the war). Both kingdoms also employ living constructs that are upsized versions of Carapacians. Derse is known to employ Archagents, Carapacians of more intellect, cunning and skill. They are often sent on more dangerous or difficult missions for the kingdom.
Every player will have one of five Carapacians assigned to him/her to serve as a guide (though not one per player in the case of the trolls); these are called Exiles for they have been exiled from the Incipisphere to the players' home planet, to a time period several centuries after they lived there.
==== Consorts ====
On every of the player's planets lives a race of intelligent [herp]tiles called Consorts. They live in simple agricultural Iron Age-style communities and worship Billous Slick (more on him later). The consorts are not very smart; while capable of speech and able to follow simple instructions they appear to have limited capabilities of deduction and have difficulty understanding human technology. The Consorts are also non-violent; they have zero combat ability making them easy targets for the various Underlings.
==== Underlings ====
Creations of the Denizens of the various planets, these are the primary enemies within Sburb. They are found on the players' planets and will begin to attack their houses upon their entry into the game. While mainly the servants of the Denizens, they are on friendly terms with the forces of Derse and will cooperate to achieve mutual goals on the planets. They seem to possess an intellect on the level of the Consorts. All Underlings are enhanced by prototyping, so if you were to prototype a [[Magic: The Gathering|Myr]] card and a bird, the Underlings could have Myr-like noses, wings, slender arms and legs, beaks, tails, or any of the above combined. These attributes combine with all those gained from prototyping, so you can expect to see a large variation of Underlings during the game. There exist a number of Underlings, some of which include:
* Imps are the most common enemy. Standing at roughly 1 meter tall they can pose challenges for new, unupgraded players unless they have considerable enhancements from prototyping.
* Ogres are the second-most common enemy. They are roughly 4 meters tall and possess large tusks. While large and physically strong they should prove no challenge for a player of a reasonable level or with moderately powerful equipment.
* [[Basilisk]]s are lizard-like creatures approximately six meters long. They fortunately do not possess a dealy gaze like most of their namesakes do, but they can easily devour a low-level player.
* Giclopses are large (6 meters) enemies with short legs and low-browed heads. They are very strong and can be more than a match for players early in the game, but can be overcome with wits, skill and proper equipment.
* [[Lich]]es are amongst the first mid-level enemies. Approximately as tall as an adult human, they have gaunt bipedal bodies and skull-like heads. They are said to be frighteningly powerful, but the few times they appeared [[FAIL|the protagonists made quick work of them]].
There are other, rarer kinds of Underlings including massive horned or multiple-armed giants, giant octopi, huge skull monsters called Acherons, tick-like things called Titachnids and the enormous faceless things called the [[World of Warcraft|Lich Queens]].
Quite possibly the toughest enemies in the game, the Denizens are the de facto rulers of the players' planets. They have massive serpentine bodies, are incredibly strong and possess amazing intellect. Another notable thing is that they are aware of their status as constructs in a game, but do not take action based on this. They serve as the penultimate final bosses for the players, to be defeated in a 1-on-1 fight between the planet's player and the denizen itself. Aside from serving as a "final exam" of sorts to test if the players are ready they also possess immense hoards of Grist which is needed for the endgame. Which Denizen a player has is determined by the player's Aspects, which is described on the right.
== So Why's This so Popular? ==
== So Why's This so Popular? ==
[[File:Lemme_tell_you.jpg|300|thumb|right|This is a meme called "Lemmy Telya". It is a picture of a disgruntled security guard at a convention looking at disdain at a group of cosplayers. In any other fandom this would have passed over quietly. Not in Homestuck. They named him Lemmy Telya, a bastardised version of "Let me tell ya/you". There was art of him. There was a cosplay of him. There was art of said cosplay. There was [[Rule 63]] art of him. All [[Salamanders|black people]] pointing/looking at Homestuck cosplays were dubbed as "Lemmy Telya", including a lunch lady and a man who looks like the black [[awesome|Techno]] [[vikings|Viking]]. The reaction of said security guard to all this is as of yet unknown, but someone will try to get it. Poor man.]]
[[File:Lemme_tell_you.jpg|300|thumb|right|This is a meme called "Lemmy Telya". It is a picture of a disgruntled security guard at a convention looking at disdain at a group of cosplayers. In any other fandom this would have passed over quietly. Not in Homestuck. They named him Lemmy Telya, and you can guess why. There was art of him. There was a cosplay of him. There was art of said cosplay. There was [[Rule 63]] of him. Any black people pointing/looking at Homestuck cosplays were dubbed "Lemmy Telya", including a lunch lady and a man who looks like black [[awesome|Techno]] [[vikings|Viking]]. The reaction of said security guard to all this is as of yet unknown, but someone will try to get it. Poor man.]]
For a number of reasons.
=== Length ===
=== Length ===
First off, Homestuck is fucking HUGE, and therefore [[Rip and Tear|has huge guts]]. Said [[Berserk|guts]] include having a page count that hit 5000 on June 1st this year (only two webcomics at that time shared having passed that count, and they started in ''fucking 1995 and 1997''). MSPA as a whole hit the ''7000'' page count on June 21st this year. This is an average of 5 panels per day, every day. Wrap your heads around that one.
It's pretty damn long, so getting engrossed in the story means you'll have a lot of fun to look forward to. This is a blessing and a curse.
It should be noted that what counts as a "page" for MSPA can vastly differ. It can be a simple image with a caption (or none at all), or as complex as a 20-minute flash game or a 13-minute flash movie that [[Wat|''brought down MSPA, Megaupload and Newgrounds when it was released'']].
So to honestly judge its length would be by word count. That, my friends, is where it goes [[Tzeentch|balls-''through''-the-wall insane]]. Around August 30th 2012 (that is 3 years, 4 months and 17 days since the start of the comic) this webcomic is, including all transcribed words in the flashes, walk-around games and static images, are you ready for it?
'''''[http://readmspa.org/stats/ Over 1,000,000 words long.]'''''
That is not a typo. That is really a one followed by ''six'' zeroes. Homestuck has a bigger word count than freaking ''Ulysses'' ''times three'', or bigger than one ''Ulysses'' combined with either ''War and Peace'', ''Les Misérables'' or ''Atlas Shrugged''. It is now 25% longer than ''Romance of the Three Kingdoms'' as of the end of Act 6 Intermission 5. In case you didn't get the point around your head by now, it is over twice as long as Tolkien's ''Lord of the Rings'' series, and over five-fourths the length of the ''King James Bible'' (though it is ''just slightly'' shorter than the entire canon of ''Harry Potter''). In fact, the only novel that is longer than Homestuck is ''In Search Of Lost Time'' (a staggering 1,200,000 words, which is a feat that Andrew Hussie could potentially surpass depending on how long Act 6 Act 6 and Act 7 are).
If nothing else, ''Homestuck'' is ''long'' - '''and it isn't even finished.'''
=== Storytelling ===
=== Storytelling ===
Andrew Hussie has an above-average thesaurus and is rather adept at playing with words, creating new ones and giving new meanings to others. He also frequently reuses earlier parts of his story; including jokes, chat logs that are to be read a second time now that you know who the character on the other side is, and [http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Weird_Plot_Shit various things that suddenly turn out to be EXTREMELY important some few thousand pages later.] For example, this is an 100% accurate quote from last year regarding the then-new developments:
The author likes to play with words. All of Gussie's work is horribly punny, and filled with very creative wordplay. Plays on wording and meaning can sometimes be both figurative and literal within the comic, and this leads to Fun.
''"So a seemingly insignificant item from the beginning of the story is suddenly and literally RAGE'd into existence by a bloodthirsty purple alien juggalo, and the very same item connects randomly and equally insignificant-looking events to explain the cause of pretty much every bad thing in the story. And it was all Betty Crocker's doing, because she tweeted an [[Cegorach|ICP]] video to a time traveling hipster wannabe on a site called Delirious Biznasty. In the past. Also, she's an alien too. For those keeping score at home, this made things ''less'' confusing."''
The author loves to be self-referential, and make references to earlier points in the plot. And also earlier in the story, in general, turning throwaway footnotes into major plot points for laughs. Homestuck is therefore a massive cluster fuck of "oh yeah that thing." He also loves Easter-eggs.
We at 1d4Chan would like to repeat that this is 100% accurate, and that it all makes sense (or something resembling sense) in the context of the story. Seriously.
Further, he does the now-popular thing of using multiple universes, so that everything can be really clusterfucked, bigtime, and the story can continue.
The good mister Hussie is also fond of adding easter eggs regarding, mentioning, referring to and wholesale copying, his earlier stories. The most jarring one is an event in Act 6 Act 3 that nearly page-by-page copies an earlier of his stories. Some of them like a story called [[AIDS|And It Don't Stop]] (which is about rapping [[Necrons|robots]]) is homaged with a bit more restraint.
=== References ===
Homestuck, to a degree beyond any of Hussie's other work, is a mess of references to pop culture. Everything from old-school video RPG tropes (like arbitrary elemental alignments, players ignoring the story, annoying inventory management schemes) to juggalos to jabs at overly-involved shippers (like the kind that Homestuck inevitably attracted). The comic is rooted in 2013, so growing up around that time really helps when reading.
He often repeats his own jokes as well with slight twists to them, such as variations of "It keeps hapening bro" (sic) which has been turned into a pair of banners for [[4chan]]. Others include "Succumb to unfathomable x", "Huge bitch bluh bluh", various uses of the word douchebag, fuckass, bulge and nook, and many, MANY more.
While on the subject of story telling, there is the absolute clusterfuck of how the story exists in relation to the others. Bardquest and Jailbreak have been shown to exist within Problem Sleuth. Problem Sleuth and these games are all [[video games]] in Homestuck. MSPA itself exists within Homestuck too, except there it is a story about a group of mobsters called the Midnight Crew, who had appeared in the extra material for Problem Sleuth. After Act 3 there was an intermission starring these guys and show that in their universe MSPA exists as well, being about a story very similar to that of Homestuck called Hivebent. It then turns out that that story actually happened, the Midnight Crew had met the characters in Hivebent and helped them in their version of Sburb. It THEN turns out that the events of Hivebent created the universe in which Homestuck takes place.
This means that the Midnight Crew is fictional in the Homestuck universe, the Hivebent universe both is and is not fictional in the Midnight Crew setting and the events of the Homestuck MSPA took place in the universe that was indirectly created by the Midnight Crew. It's the biggest brainfuck since that episode of [[Doctor Who]] that revealed that, while Doctor Who and Eastenders (A British series and not relevant to the point at hand) are fictional series in each other's universes they also exist in the same universe. It's like meeting [[Vulkan]] who tells you that his people have been telling stories about you and yours for decades. And this is not even counting the "Alpha" universe.
Also, this would mean that there are three iterations of Andrew Hussie running around; one in our universe, one in the Homestuck universe and one in the Hivebent universe. Welp.
=== The Story Itself ===
The story roughly resembles [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]] in that there are four kids with different personalities and backgrounds (yes I know Katara and Sokka are siblings and are not that different in that regard, go eat a dick) have supernatural powers and have to deal with problems far, FAR bigger than any 13 year old should handle. Or any adult. Or anyone who's not the [[Emperor]]. The scope set on only a few characters and their struggles, group dynamic and their problems with budding relationships. This, combined with the HUGE cast (there is a joke where [[Pokemon|the original 151 characters are said to the poster's favorites, this is within the realm of possibility for the story.]]), adds huge potentials for shipping. It should also be noted that the guy who voiced Zuko in The Last Airbender (Dante Basco) also played Rufio in the Robin Williams movie Hook, with Rufio appearing a few times in Homestuck as a fictional/real character that gets killed and has his corpse kissed by Andrew Hussie. Because Homestuck is skull-fuckingly weird like that. Then the real Dante Basco began reading Homestuck. He got a nice warm welcome along with a Saw-esque greeting of "HELLO DANTE" printed in the site's menu bar and the fans loved him for reading it. When he got to the corpse-makeout point he was rather freaked out by it but kept reading anyway, calling himself "a Homestuck". Real trooper that one.
While most fandoms have some shippers, Homestuck goes beyond by introducing four different kinds of love: regular human love, "hatelove" (not to be confused with being [[Shadowsun|tsundere]]), platonic love involving being the better half of someone without there being romance involved and being a relationship councilor for another pair of people. Especially the first two are popular within the shipping community, with hetero, homo, [[heresy|interspecies]] (often combinations) are very common, partially because the race of aliens involved later in the story has no concept of homo/heterosexuality as they reproduce asexually (don't ask, nobody knows how it actually works since the author never divulged on the subject, all we know is that it involves donating "genetic material" out of which a large insect creature can breed young aliens) and as such do not require a partner of the opposite gender to reproduce.
=== The Fandom ===
=== The Fandom ===
Homestuck has a very large, active, vocal and creative fandom with a penchant of [[gets shit done|getting shit done]]. They write music, make games (though not very fast), debate characters, events, objects and individual pages to no end, combine it with other games, series, movies and such, and draw umpteen FUCKTONS of fanart. As always, some of it is genuinly good while other suck bleeding horse cock. Unfortunately, this also means that the ever-present percentage of fuckwad [[that guy|those guys]] is a pretty large number of people. This results in that it looks like all of the fandom are retarded cuntmuffins who kick it into maximum oversperg every time someone disagrees with them. This is not true; as in all fandoms that is the infamous vocal minority.
[[File:Homestuckfags.PNG|thumb|300px|right|The homestuck fandom and how to exploit it.]]
It has a large fandom, so... lots of potential for new friends, I suppose?
Internal arguments are common as well: people hating people for not liking what they like (and vice versa), and shipping wars are rife. Because of the above-mentioned place that romance has in Homestuck everyone is shipped with everyone, to the point where people pair off vaults with pogo rides. It does not really help that [[Awesome|Mark Twain]] (the writer) and [[Wat|Betty Crocker]] (the baking mascot) are an in-story canon pairing.
One component of Homestuck that is lost on readers after 2016 is that Andrew Hussie was very active in his own fandom, weaving memes and in-jokes made by the fans into new Homestuck updates when he was still writing. His actual relationship with the fans was equal parts "haha look at these shitlords" and "you guys are my only friends".
== So why do people hate it so much? ==
== So why do people hate it so much? ==
Again, a number of reasons. Most of them have to do with why people hate it.
#Because it is ''overly'' long. And it starts off slow. It's like trying to get into CSI and being told "you can't understand what's going on unless you watch every season in order."
#The story can really swing between whimsical fun, [[grimdark|grim darkness]] and relationship shenanigans. I.E. it entirely lacks a clear tone. Some people want a story to retain a consistent tone, and if you are one of those people you probably won't like Homestuck very much.
#The fandom: The fandom was ''Newgrounds-destroyingly massive'' in 2014, and no, that is not hyperbole. Any fandom that big inevitably becomes quite vocally retarded, and this was all before the internet watched several other fandoms do the exact same thing. People at the time viewed Homestuck as [[Something Awful|something that makes you stupid]], and they feared it as horribly [[Cancer|cancerous]]. That legacy haunts it to this day.
#And lastly, some people find Homestuck rather pretentious, and don't feel it deserves the popularity it had.
Because it is so extremely long and starts off slow, some people do not have the patience for the comic and call it boring or nothing happens until act 5. The people who skip acts 1 to 4 (and the ones that skip the first Intermission, or all the parts with the exiles) are especially loathed amongst the fandom.
== Links ==
* [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6 The big enchilada] Be prepared to spend several days at least going through it.
*[http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Homestuck The Homestuck Wiki]. Enter at your own risk.
* [http://mspabooru.com/ A homestuck *booru image repository]
* [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/ The soundtrack albums] free to listen streaming.
Second is that the story can really swing between whimsical fun, [[grimdark|grim darkness]] and relationship shenanigans. Some people want a story to be consistent in tone, while others don't mind it switching around.
=== Living Games ===
* [http://skrub-ttrpg.tumblr.com/post/142406040596/hey-its-been-a-while-since-ive-posted-anything SKRUB v 8.1] (still working on it as of may 2016)
* [http://godtierrpg.tumblr.com/ God Tier RPG]
* [http://orngjce223.net/chuubo/A%20User%27s%20Guide%20to%20the%20Apocalypse%20unfinished.pdf A User's Guide to the Apocalypse]. This one uses Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine, a tabletop RPG that's about feelings instead of combat and that doesn't use dice, so it only half counts. The game is playable though, if you count "people sitting on an internet chat talking about their feelings" as play.
* [http://reddit.com/r/rpgstuck/ RPGStuck] It's a modified version of DnD with some weird shit added to it. It's pretty active, but is only hosted on reddit so far.
** Nowadays the sub is mostly used for forming groups, while the actual sessions take place on Discord.
A third reason is the fandom: Due to its tendency to be quite vocal (especially the muffcunts of the fandom) people think Homestuck to be something that makes you [[derp|stupid]], and they fear it as horribly [[cancer]]ous.
=== Dead Games ===
The rest of these were hosted on the MSPAforums and other daoots sites, but who knows, maybe someday they will be back:
== Games ==
''So I'm making a tabletop game version of Sburb/Sgrub/Homestuck ...''
About once a week there's a thread on /tg/ about someone new who's going to be a pioneer and make a Homestuck RPG. It's a weird case of /tg/ not getting shit done, probably because the idea is inherently flawed -- the game 'Sburb' as described is a Mongolian clusterfuck of The Sims, [[Minecraft]], [[Chess]], [[Video games|Zork, Final Fight, Street Fighter, Megami Tensen, Earthbound]] and Princess Maker... and maybe a couple others. Attempts usually get as far as player vs. mooks combat and end there because this is the someone's first attempt at game design, or because they give up in the face of trying to write a system for [[Wat|four-axis multiple simultaneous divergent timeline romances between alien/human/ghost/demigod/chesspiece/software-construct and another or maybe two aliens/humans/ghosts/demig]]{{BLAM}}.
There are <s>three</s> two published attempts that get referred to as those who've actually completed something playable:
* [http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?33724-The-Homestuck-tabletop-RPG-SYLLADEX-DECK-CREATOR-v-2 the one based on Gamma World v4]
* [http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?33724-The-Homestuck-tabletop-RPG-SYLLADEX-DECK-CREATOR-v-2 the one based on Gamma World v4]
* [http://ajoxer.wikispaces.com/Homestuck+RPG the one that uses poker cards for d4+d13]
* [http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?60342-Homestuck-RPG-2nd-Edition-%28ADDITIONAL-PROJECTS-IN-PROGRESS%29 Updated from the original Gamma World edit, still active.]
**[Now found on the Omegaupdate forums: http://omegaupdate.freeforums.net/thread/339/homestuck-edition-temporary-omegaupdate-home]
== Links ==
* [http://nepeta.mozai.com/games/pdf/Homestuck_RPG-2.pdf the one that uses poker cards for d4+d13]
* [http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6 The big enchilada]
* [http://ib.skaia.net/ A homestuck *booru image repository]
* [http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/ the soundtrack albums] free to listen streaming
* [http://mspfanventures.com/ MSPFA fan-adventures] like fanfic but with illustrations; most are started and then abandoned when the author loses interest. Recommended stories that don't need familiarity with Homestuck are:
** A Beginner's Guide to the End of the Universe
** Superego
** Waterworks
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsm1SwXJ1C0 Why nothing and no one is ever safe, ever.] View at your own digression, you were warned.
== Gallery ==
== Gallery ==
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File:Hunk_troll_the_magic_players.gif|Andrew Hussie knows of /tg/. And he finds great pleasure in our gifts.
File:Hunk_troll_the_magic_players.gif|Andrew Hussie knows of /tg/. And he finds great pleasure in our gifts.
File:Problem_Slueth_LABYRINTHINE_SUDOCUBE_DIAMETRIC.gif|Problem Sleuth [[what|never got as complicated as Homestuck]].
File:Problem_Slueth_LABYRINTHINE_SUDOCUBE_DIAMETRIC.gif|Problem Sleuth [[what|never got as complicated as Homestuck]].
File:Kanaya_chainsaw.gif|[[Sisters of Battle|Sister of Battle]] initiate Kanaya Mayram shows you how [[rage]] is done.
File:Kanaya_chainsaw.gif|[[Sisters of Battle|Sister of Battle]] initiate Kanaya Maryam shows you how [[rage]] is done.
File:John_plays_Eldar.png| John Egbert and his Fanciful Harlequins.
File:Boreale_sprite.png| Not even [[Indrick Boreale|Boreale]] himself could withstand their crossover addiction...
File:THIS.gif|It
File:THIS.gif|It
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File:IS.gif|really
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Latest revision as of 10:04, 21 June 2023
This is a /co/ related article, which we allow because we find it interesting or we can't be bothered to delete it.
The logo of Sburb, and de-facto logo of Homestuck.
Homestuck (also known as Hamsteak or Homosuck) is a webcomic written by one Andrew Hussie. It is but one of the comics featured on his website, MS Paint Adventures, which is often abbreviated into MSPA. It is famous for being even more WORDS WORDS WORDS than Ctrl+Alt+Delete, having a shit-ton of characters and one of the most annoyingwonderfulprominent fanbases in existence. For this reason it was often referred to on 4chan as Homeskub during its heyday.
Homestuck began on April 13th 2009, one month after the creator's previous story, Problem Sleuth, had ended. It started out in the same vein as its predecessors; a Quest-style comic run solely by user input. The first three stories, Jailbreak (left unfinished for ages, then wrapped up hastily partway through Homestuck), Bardquest (a multiple choice experiment that was abandoned very early and will likely never be finished), and Problem Sleuth (actually finished, and whose unexpected popularity directly precipitated Homestuck) channeled old-school point-and-click adventure games based of a man trying to escape prison, a bard in his quest to slay a dragon, and a hard-boiled private investigator trying to leave his absurd office respectively.
Andrew Hussie went in a different direction with his newest work, by making it about a group of early teenagers who chat and play video games online. Homestuck begins with goofy young hero John Egbert getting his hands on beta copies of a hot new game called Sburb for his birthday. What looks like a novel team-based version of the Sims takes a crazy turn when the game reveals powerful reality-warping properties, and matters soon begin to escalate as John and company find themselves surviving meteors, cloning themselves, fighting all sorts of monsters, dealing with aliens of various degrees of friendliness and/or blood thirst and ultimately facing an immortal Time Lord demonic time-traveling minmaxing crime boss seeking terrible and destructive ends.
All the MS Paint Adventures are notable for being more than regular comic strips; Homestuck frequently includes simple animations, occasional Flash animations of escalating complexity, entire flash games, and a soundtrack that covers several dozen albums. You can also buy printed versions of the comic from the website in case you want a hands on experience, but that means missing out on the flash goodness and razing acres of forest. So not only do you read Homestuck, you watch it, play it, listen to it and (maybe) buy it.
Homestuck has over the course of its seven years of existence amassed a spectacularly huge cast of characters. There are four kids who each have their own guardian/pet, Consort, Denizen, Exile, Archagent, Wise Black Man and more. Then there are the Trolls and their associated characters, who increase this total by roughly four dozen, and many more beyond. The cast was then further doubled by introducing the kid versions of the Kids' guardians and the Trolls' ancestors via parallel universe shenanigans. This all gets very complicated, and there is good reason to believe that Hussie was duplicating of parts of the cast solely to bait the fandom into shipping (for his own perverse lolz).
It finally ended on April 13th 2016 after 2 gigantic pauses that disbanded the fandom (a lot of them jumping ship to Toby Fox (a composer for Homestuck)'s equally skubUndertale), including the retconning of several hundred pages with time travel shenanigans, and ye gods it was about time. For both the fandom and the comic.
This is a meme called "Lemmy Telya". It is a picture of a disgruntled security guard at a convention looking at disdain at a group of cosplayers. In any other fandom this would have passed over quietly. Not in Homestuck. They named him Lemmy Telya, and you can guess why. There was art of him. There was a cosplay of him. There was art of said cosplay. There was Rule 63 of him. Any black people pointing/looking at Homestuck cosplays were dubbed "Lemmy Telya", including a lunch lady and a man who looks like black TechnoViking. The reaction of said security guard to all this is as of yet unknown, but someone will try to get it. Poor man.
The author likes to play with words. All of Gussie's work is horribly punny, and filled with very creative wordplay. Plays on wording and meaning can sometimes be both figurative and literal within the comic, and this leads to Fun.
The author loves to be self-referential, and make references to earlier points in the plot. And also earlier in the story, in general, turning throwaway footnotes into major plot points for laughs. Homestuck is therefore a massive cluster fuck of "oh yeah that thing." He also loves Easter-eggs.
Further, he does the now-popular thing of using multiple universes, so that everything can be really clusterfucked, bigtime, and the story can continue.
Homestuck, to a degree beyond any of Hussie's other work, is a mess of references to pop culture. Everything from old-school video RPG tropes (like arbitrary elemental alignments, players ignoring the story, annoying inventory management schemes) to juggalos to jabs at overly-involved shippers (like the kind that Homestuck inevitably attracted). The comic is rooted in 2013, so growing up around that time really helps when reading.
It has a large fandom, so... lots of potential for new friends, I suppose?
One component of Homestuck that is lost on readers after 2016 is that Andrew Hussie was very active in his own fandom, weaving memes and in-jokes made by the fans into new Homestuck updates when he was still writing. His actual relationship with the fans was equal parts "haha look at these shitlords" and "you guys are my only friends".
Because it is overly long. And it starts off slow. It's like trying to get into CSI and being told "you can't understand what's going on unless you watch every season in order."
The story can really swing between whimsical fun, grim darkness and relationship shenanigans. I.E. it entirely lacks a clear tone. Some people want a story to retain a consistent tone, and if you are one of those people you probably won't like Homestuck very much.
The fandom: The fandom was Newgrounds-destroyingly massive in 2014, and no, that is not hyperbole. Any fandom that big inevitably becomes quite vocally retarded, and this was all before the internet watched several other fandoms do the exact same thing. People at the time viewed Homestuck as something that makes you stupid, and they feared it as horribly cancerous. That legacy haunts it to this day.
And lastly, some people find Homestuck rather pretentious, and don't feel it deserves the popularity it had.
A User's Guide to the Apocalypse. This one uses Chuubo's Marvelous Wish-Granting Engine, a tabletop RPG that's about feelings instead of combat and that doesn't use dice, so it only half counts. The game is playable though, if you count "people sitting on an internet chat talking about their feelings" as play.
RPGStuck It's a modified version of DnD with some weird shit added to it. It's pretty active, but is only hosted on reddit so far.
Nowadays the sub is mostly used for forming groups, while the actual sessions take place on Discord.
