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{{topquote|Chaos is order yet undeciphered.|José Saramago}} | |||
- | The Gods of Law, sometimes referred to as the Chaos Gods of Law (Chaos in the sense of being made out of the magical element of "physics and logic can go fuck themselves" like the Chaos (AKA destruction)-aligned Chaos Gods), are three (or more) Gods who were created in the first edition of [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]]. They were referenced later in the "Apocrypha Now" supplement, and were vaguely alluded to in various Warhammer works throughout the years. The Gods of Law are separate from the other non-Chaos Gods of the world, such as those of the Empire, and seem to predate them. They may or may not be on good terms. | ||
In the [[Black Library]] novels for [[Archaon]] published in 2014, [[Be'lakor]] informs a couple of Tilean inquistors that their God Solkan never existed, giving them the Gods of Law first mention in the modern Warhammer era. Given that none of the Gods of Law intervened during the End Times while gods like Ulric and Sigmar quite clearly did, he was probably right. | |||
Four Gods of Law were said to exist, though only three were named. All three identified ones are siblings. Solkan and Arianka are lovers. The fourth was never identified. Solkan, Arianka, and Alluminas seem to parallel Khorne, Tzeentch, and Nurgle but Slaanesh never had an opposite. Considering Slaanesh's disappearance and capture in [[Age of Sigmar]], this makes an interesting coincidence. Slaanesh's description as the youngest Chaos God (at least in 40k) also bears mentioning, as it could be possible the fourth Law God would be introduced one day. | |||
The lore claims that if the Gods of Law were to become dominant, [[Advancing the Storyline|all change and development would cease]]. This is, of course, [[bullshit]] as none of their spheres of influence involve any form of stagnation. We've got light, discipline, and retribution. Yeah, real stagnant. (Also, blatant plagiarism from [[Michael Moorcock]]'s writings, if the [[Chaos Gods]] weren't enough). | |||
It is a curious and perhaps hopeful hint that just as Games Workshop stole the symbol for Chaos, the symbol for Tactical Marines is the same as the symbol for Order from the source the Chaos symbol was copy-pasted from. | |||
They were recently brought back for "Archives of the Empire, Part III" supplement of [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]]. There are now five of them (only four are named), they are now incomprehensible for humans (with the exception of Solkan) and sundial is their new symbol. | |||
==[[Arianka]]== | ==Fantasy== | ||
===[[Solkan|Solkan the Avenger]]=== | |||
Solkan is the warrior god of Law, and thus would be [[Khorne|Khorne's]] polar opposite. He's basically The Punisher in god-form, relentlessly pursuing and destroying any creatures of disorder or those who commit heinous crimes. Unlike his sleeping incesister and unknowable brother, Solkan seems to get shit done, at least in the old [[HeroQuest]] material, where he manifests to [[Awesome|kick Khorne's ass]] when the Blood God tries to take over the Reman Empire (ancient Tilea). [[Witch Hunters]] primarily worship him and he empowers them against the Chaos Gods. It isn't stated if his worship is accepted within the [[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)|Empire]] like [[Morr]] or [[Shallya]], or if their worship is a heresy, though his popularity among Witch Hunters suggests it's a contended viewpoint. The 40k equivalent however would undoubtedly be heretical, as [[Meme|just about everything is]]. He apparently has a raging rageboner for his sisterwife Arianka, similar to but less violent than Khorne's rageboner for his sisbrorival Slaanesh. | |||
New lore doesn't change that much about him, but adds (an obviously non-canonical due to [[The End Times]]) backstory for Solkan: he and his Law colleagues once ruled the world, but when Big Four invaded it all went to shit. While Solkan had many victories over Chaos (against [[Khorne]] '''himself''', mind you), his four comrads were helplessly curbstomped, with them becoming either dead or imprisoned. Only he survived and went into hiding to regain his strength and eventually defeat those sick fuckers. | |||
===[[Arianka]]=== | |||
[[File:Chaos God Arianka.png|thumb|right|400px|Arianka, as she appears in the comics of Kaleb Daark, Champion of [[Malal]].]] | [[File:Chaos God Arianka.png|thumb|right|400px|Arianka, as she appears in the comics of Kaleb Daark, Champion of [[Malal]].]] | ||
While Solkan represents the enforcement of law, Arianka is the disciplining nature of it and thus is a patron of warriors. | While Solkan represents the enforcement of law, Arianka is the disciplining nature of it and thus is a patron of warriors. | ||
[[Tzeentch]] found her to be a nuisance who could potentially unravel his designs, so he manipulated her somehow into becoming trapped inside of a coffin made of Laihtero, the rarest form of [[Gromril]] which resembles a crystal that constantly emits soft light. The keys to her prison are hidden somewhere in the mortal world. The coffin itself was hidden beneath the Empire city of Praag, capital of [[Kislev]]. Her sword Laihtendrung was also made of Laihtero. | [[Tzeentch]] found her to be a nuisance who could potentially unravel his designs, so he manipulated her somehow into becoming trapped inside of a coffin made of Laihtero, the rarest form of [[Gromril]] which resembles a crystal that constantly emits soft light. The keys to her prison are hidden somewhere in the mortal world. The coffin itself was hidden beneath the Empire city of Praag, capital of [[Kislev]]. Her sword Laihtendrung was also made of Laihtero. While Arianka stopped being mentioned by name after copyright issues led to Malal being removed, a "mysterious woman" is often said to be sleeping beneath Praag, empowering ice magic for Kislev's witches. | ||
In a recent [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]] supplement "Archives of the Empire, Part III" she was brought back as Astasis, and she now represents a purity of form rather than discipline. | |||
===[[Alluminas]]=== | |||
A god of the most absolute form of light, whose gaze renders other beings into unchanging unmoving light, implying he is possibly Nurgle's opposite, though his unchanging nature yet unknowable form could put him as both an equal and opposite to Tzeentch. He is not worshiped by many mortals because his portfolio is alien and incomprehensible entirely to them (well, technically all Chaos Gods are as well but Alluminas is without something simple or appealing like the others have). Note that this was before the lore that empowered the Chaos Gods by worship. The latest mention of Alluminas comes from [[Total War: Warhammer]], where Light Wizards sometimes call on him for power when casting spells. Whether like Witch Hunter's calling to Solkan it's just their faith or power affecting the Warp or if he really does aid them is unknown. | |||
=== Daora === | |||
A new God of Law added in a 2022 WFRP supplement. She is a represetation of pure, total knowledge, which undoubtely makes her [[Verena]] 2.0. | |||
=== Unnamed Craft Deity === | |||
God who is responsible for the creation of every type of matter. Was only found on a fragmented scroll from Magritta and clearly only exists to represent the lack of human knowledge about Gods of Law. | |||
==40K== | |||
==[[ | ===[[God-Emperor of Mankind]]=== | ||
Most have regarded [[Emprah|Empy]] as WH40K's equivalent of the Chaos Gods of Law and Order, since he combines the light themes of Alluminas as well as Solkan's form of authority and being a lazy catatonic bastard like Arianka and his opposing nature of Chaos in itself. Interestingly, multiple theories suggests that if the Emperor were to die, he would instead transform into a literal Chaos God of Order which would create a stalemate or defeat the Chaos Gods once and for all and save humanity at the same time, although this may come into conflict within certain other [[Skub|theories of his demise.]] The answer still stands that he is the only 40k analogues of the fantasy counterparts. | |||
He also embodies aspects of [[Malal]] with his status as a divine being who is a proponent of atheism and his habit of consuming Warp energy along with his status as the outsider of the group. The [[Omnissiah]] may or may not be an avatar of him, or a separate God of Law altogether with its focus on orderly machinery, though as of 2019, the Horus Heresy novel ''Titandeath'' seems to suggest the former. | |||
Outright stating the Emperor is a Chaos God would earn you a phosphex bath, if the enraged listeners don't beat you to death first. Either that or Khorne promotes you to Daemon Prince on the spot out of the sheer size of your balls. | |||
==[[ | ===The [[Greater Good]]=== | ||
The only other equivalent of a "God of Law" is the Tau's coalesced idea of a Greater Good driving their actions, solidified by their highly regimented, orderly society and culture. Depending on the source they range from treating this concept as a god outright, to viewing it as naturally a part of nature, to being ardent atheists in general, but their collective belief in the concept is implied to have indeed created a godly entity. Even if they don't worship it, 40K abides less by the rule of "if you believe in it, it exists" and more so in "if you believe in a concept it will create it" for the Gods, so it'd make sense if one formed even if the Tau don't recognize or devote a religion to it (except it wouldn't make sense because the Tau have a very weak Warp presence; even the Eldar have to go through tons of crap and possibly all die to create a Warp god and they're all powerful psykers ''and'' know how to make a god). It's a very recent addition to the fluff however, and generates skub among some Tau and non-Tau players alike. The fluff details seem to imply it was actually created by how the non-Tau members of the Tau Empire believe in the Greater Good rather than how the Tau view it. Which in fact horrified said Tau personnel into going full exterminatus extremis on them. That said, those species are also so few that their belief wouldn't have a chance in Hell (Get it? 'Cus the Warp is literally Hell in the lore!) of creating any entity in the Warp that wouldn't just be quickly gobbled up by some random daemon. | |||
[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]] | [[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]] | ||
Latest revision as of 10:03, 20 June 2023
"Chaos is order yet undeciphered."
- – José Saramago
The Gods of Law, sometimes referred to as the Chaos Gods of Law (Chaos in the sense of being made out of the magical element of "physics and logic can go fuck themselves" like the Chaos (AKA destruction)-aligned Chaos Gods), are three (or more) Gods who were created in the first edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. They were referenced later in the "Apocrypha Now" supplement, and were vaguely alluded to in various Warhammer works throughout the years. The Gods of Law are separate from the other non-Chaos Gods of the world, such as those of the Empire, and seem to predate them. They may or may not be on good terms.
In the Black Library novels for Archaon published in 2014, Be'lakor informs a couple of Tilean inquistors that their God Solkan never existed, giving them the Gods of Law first mention in the modern Warhammer era. Given that none of the Gods of Law intervened during the End Times while gods like Ulric and Sigmar quite clearly did, he was probably right.
Four Gods of Law were said to exist, though only three were named. All three identified ones are siblings. Solkan and Arianka are lovers. The fourth was never identified. Solkan, Arianka, and Alluminas seem to parallel Khorne, Tzeentch, and Nurgle but Slaanesh never had an opposite. Considering Slaanesh's disappearance and capture in Age of Sigmar, this makes an interesting coincidence. Slaanesh's description as the youngest Chaos God (at least in 40k) also bears mentioning, as it could be possible the fourth Law God would be introduced one day.
The lore claims that if the Gods of Law were to become dominant, all change and development would cease. This is, of course, bullshit as none of their spheres of influence involve any form of stagnation. We've got light, discipline, and retribution. Yeah, real stagnant. (Also, blatant plagiarism from Michael Moorcock's writings, if the Chaos Gods weren't enough).
It is a curious and perhaps hopeful hint that just as Games Workshop stole the symbol for Chaos, the symbol for Tactical Marines is the same as the symbol for Order from the source the Chaos symbol was copy-pasted from.
They were recently brought back for "Archives of the Empire, Part III" supplement of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. There are now five of them (only four are named), they are now incomprehensible for humans (with the exception of Solkan) and sundial is their new symbol.
Fantasy[edit]
Solkan the Avenger[edit]
Solkan is the warrior god of Law, and thus would be Khorne's polar opposite. He's basically The Punisher in god-form, relentlessly pursuing and destroying any creatures of disorder or those who commit heinous crimes. Unlike his sleeping incesister and unknowable brother, Solkan seems to get shit done, at least in the old HeroQuest material, where he manifests to kick Khorne's ass when the Blood God tries to take over the Reman Empire (ancient Tilea). Witch Hunters primarily worship him and he empowers them against the Chaos Gods. It isn't stated if his worship is accepted within the Empire like Morr or Shallya, or if their worship is a heresy, though his popularity among Witch Hunters suggests it's a contended viewpoint. The 40k equivalent however would undoubtedly be heretical, as just about everything is. He apparently has a raging rageboner for his sisterwife Arianka, similar to but less violent than Khorne's rageboner for his sisbrorival Slaanesh.
New lore doesn't change that much about him, but adds (an obviously non-canonical due to The End Times) backstory for Solkan: he and his Law colleagues once ruled the world, but when Big Four invaded it all went to shit. While Solkan had many victories over Chaos (against Khorne himself, mind you), his four comrads were helplessly curbstomped, with them becoming either dead or imprisoned. Only he survived and went into hiding to regain his strength and eventually defeat those sick fuckers.
Arianka[edit]
While Solkan represents the enforcement of law, Arianka is the disciplining nature of it and thus is a patron of warriors. Tzeentch found her to be a nuisance who could potentially unravel his designs, so he manipulated her somehow into becoming trapped inside of a coffin made of Laihtero, the rarest form of Gromril which resembles a crystal that constantly emits soft light. The keys to her prison are hidden somewhere in the mortal world. The coffin itself was hidden beneath the Empire city of Praag, capital of Kislev. Her sword Laihtendrung was also made of Laihtero. While Arianka stopped being mentioned by name after copyright issues led to Malal being removed, a "mysterious woman" is often said to be sleeping beneath Praag, empowering ice magic for Kislev's witches.
In a recent Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay supplement "Archives of the Empire, Part III" she was brought back as Astasis, and she now represents a purity of form rather than discipline.
Alluminas[edit]
A god of the most absolute form of light, whose gaze renders other beings into unchanging unmoving light, implying he is possibly Nurgle's opposite, though his unchanging nature yet unknowable form could put him as both an equal and opposite to Tzeentch. He is not worshiped by many mortals because his portfolio is alien and incomprehensible entirely to them (well, technically all Chaos Gods are as well but Alluminas is without something simple or appealing like the others have). Note that this was before the lore that empowered the Chaos Gods by worship. The latest mention of Alluminas comes from Total War: Warhammer, where Light Wizards sometimes call on him for power when casting spells. Whether like Witch Hunter's calling to Solkan it's just their faith or power affecting the Warp or if he really does aid them is unknown.
Daora[edit]
A new God of Law added in a 2022 WFRP supplement. She is a represetation of pure, total knowledge, which undoubtely makes her Verena 2.0.
Unnamed Craft Deity[edit]
God who is responsible for the creation of every type of matter. Was only found on a fragmented scroll from Magritta and clearly only exists to represent the lack of human knowledge about Gods of Law.
40K[edit]
God-Emperor of Mankind[edit]
Most have regarded Empy as WH40K's equivalent of the Chaos Gods of Law and Order, since he combines the light themes of Alluminas as well as Solkan's form of authority and being a lazy catatonic bastard like Arianka and his opposing nature of Chaos in itself. Interestingly, multiple theories suggests that if the Emperor were to die, he would instead transform into a literal Chaos God of Order which would create a stalemate or defeat the Chaos Gods once and for all and save humanity at the same time, although this may come into conflict within certain other theories of his demise. The answer still stands that he is the only 40k analogues of the fantasy counterparts. He also embodies aspects of Malal with his status as a divine being who is a proponent of atheism and his habit of consuming Warp energy along with his status as the outsider of the group. The Omnissiah may or may not be an avatar of him, or a separate God of Law altogether with its focus on orderly machinery, though as of 2019, the Horus Heresy novel Titandeath seems to suggest the former. Outright stating the Emperor is a Chaos God would earn you a phosphex bath, if the enraged listeners don't beat you to death first. Either that or Khorne promotes you to Daemon Prince on the spot out of the sheer size of your balls.
The Greater Good[edit]
The only other equivalent of a "God of Law" is the Tau's coalesced idea of a Greater Good driving their actions, solidified by their highly regimented, orderly society and culture. Depending on the source they range from treating this concept as a god outright, to viewing it as naturally a part of nature, to being ardent atheists in general, but their collective belief in the concept is implied to have indeed created a godly entity. Even if they don't worship it, 40K abides less by the rule of "if you believe in it, it exists" and more so in "if you believe in a concept it will create it" for the Gods, so it'd make sense if one formed even if the Tau don't recognize or devote a religion to it (except it wouldn't make sense because the Tau have a very weak Warp presence; even the Eldar have to go through tons of crap and possibly all die to create a Warp god and they're all powerful psykers and know how to make a god). It's a very recent addition to the fluff however, and generates skub among some Tau and non-Tau players alike. The fluff details seem to imply it was actually created by how the non-Tau members of the Tau Empire believe in the Greater Good rather than how the Tau view it. Which in fact horrified said Tau personnel into going full exterminatus extremis on them. That said, those species are also so few that their belief wouldn't have a chance in Hell (Get it? 'Cus the Warp is literally Hell in the lore!) of creating any entity in the Warp that wouldn't just be quickly gobbled up by some random daemon.
| The Chaos Gods of Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Fantasy | |
|---|---|
| Four Main Chaos Gods: | Khorne - Nurgle - Slaanesh - Tzeentch |
| Other Gods of Chaos: | Archaon - Hashut - Horned Rat - Nuffle Malal - Morghur - Necoho - Zuvassin |
| Chaos Gods of Law: | Alluminas - Arianka - Solkan the Avenger |