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[[Category:Meme]]
[[Image:Women are weak.JPG|thumb|-4 Str Git Bak In Teh Kitchen1!!]]
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[[Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|thumb|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.]]
'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a [[musclegirl]] image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster [[/pol/|actually thinks it should be]] or not.


The LIEK TTLY correct belief that all women, especially adventurers, are significantly weaker than men, thereby taking a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words a musclegirl image dump will ensue, making it the ''only'' good reason to use this supremely idiotic meme.
==History==
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."''


Counter musclegirl image dump with ED's Women page. Showing the universal truth of female inferiority to those miserable deviants.
There ''are'' other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.


This probably came from [[FATAL]] or something.
==See Also:==
: An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of Gary Gygax."''
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20#Women are Underpowered in D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics]
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting]


* See also: [[Katanas_are_Underpowered_in_d20#Women_are_Underpowered_in_D20|Women are Underpowered]]
==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:No -4 STR.jpg|"ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)"
Image:-4_Strength.JPG|A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no [[mods]] in /tg/?
File:1230052783344.png|I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications).
</gallery>


[[Image:No -4 STR.jpg|400px]][[Image:-4_Strength.JPG‎|250px]]
[[Category:Meme]]

Latest revision as of 11:05, 14 June 2023

-4 Str Git Bak In Teh Kitchen1!!

-4 Str is a meme and trollbait from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a musclegirl image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster actually thinks it should be or not.

History[edit]

Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.

An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of Gary Gygax."

There are other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.

See Also:[edit]

Gallery[edit]

  • "ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)"

    "ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)"

  • A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?

    A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?

  • A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.

    A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.

  • 1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?

    1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?

  • Who says there are no mods in /tg/?

    Who says there are no mods in /tg/?

  • I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications).

    I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications).

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