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'''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a [[musclegirl]] image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster [[/pol/|actually thinks it should be]] or not. | '''-4 Str''' is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a [[musclegirl]] image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster [[/pol/|actually thinks it should be]] or not. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept. | ||
:An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue | :An oldfag says: ''"This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons|1st ed. AD&D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of [[Gary Gygax]]."'' | ||
There ''are'' other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100. | |||
==See Also:== | ==See Also:== | ||
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*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics] | *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics] | ||
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting] | *Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting] | ||
==Gallery== | ==Gallery== | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:No -4 STR.jpg|"ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)" | |||
Image:-4_Strength.JPG|A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do? | |||
Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads. | |||
Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | Image:AD&D page16.png|1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme? | ||
Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no [[mods]] in /tg/? | |||
File:1230052783344.png|I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications). | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
[[Category:Meme]] | [[Category:Meme]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:05, 14 June 2023
-4 Str is a meme and trollbait from /tg/. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially adventurers -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their strength score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a musclegirl image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it's not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster actually thinks it should be or not.
History[edit]
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str's beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.
- An oldfag says: "This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of 1st ed. AD&D: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme Dwarves, -2 Str for femme Elves, -3 Str for femme Gnomes and Halflings. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue bashing of Gary Gygax."
There are other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.
See Also:[edit]
- Women are Underpowered in d20
- List of world records in athletics
- Comparable weight classes in the list of world records in weightlifting
Gallery[edit]
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"ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)"
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A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?
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A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.
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1st Ed D&D; the origin of the meme?
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Who says there are no mods in /tg/?
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I bet 30 internetz that she couldn't do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications).
