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The '''Monster Girl Encyclopedia''' is a [[NSFW]] | The '''Monster Girl Encyclopedia''' is a Japanese [[NSFW]] encyclopedia written and impressively illustrated by Kenkou Cross that fleshes out his [[monstergirl]]-focused setting. The entries are written in the style of a [[Monster Manual]], but without any [[crunch|stats]]. The artwork is great (if somewhat [[skub|contentious]]). Some of the premises are as interesting as they are [[/d/|"enjoyable"]]. | ||
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==The Setting== | ==The Setting== | ||
A brief summary is pretty simple. A Succubus has | To understand what happens, you must know of one thing: Dragon Quest. The first three NES games were to the Japanese RPG what DOOM was to first-person shooters, or Street Fighter II to fighting games. One of the concepts it popularized was the 「魔王」 ''Maou'' (or Ma-Oh or however you wanna spell it)<ref>The word Maou comes from Buddhism, and was originally used in modern Fantasy in the Japanese version of [[The Lord of the Rings]], as a translation of "Witch-King".</ref>, a.k.a. the Great Demon King. The BBEG of BBEGs for your stereotypical Japanese European Fantasy. Demons, Monsters, and even wild animals bow to their will, and will become more aggressive and hostile; many JRPGs will have somebody in the first town complaining about an increase in monster attacks, this dude is why; and their will is typically the conquest and/or destruction of Humanity, and they're usually not fond of Elves (with the usual exception of Dark Elves) or Dwarfs either. This usually leads to a war and a lone Hero who must gather their allies, journey to the Demon King's/Maou's castle, and slay them to bring peace to the land once more. This setup has been played straight, twisted, parodied, inverted, subverted and perverted in nearly every possible way in the thirty or so years since Dragon Quest came out. So here we go again... | ||
A brief summary is pretty simple. A Succubus has overthrown the previous Demon King/Monster Lord and taken the throne for herself along with a new title; The Maou. Unlike the Demon Kings/Maou's of Dragon Quest, she doesn't have any particular hate-boner against Humanity, quite the opposite in fact, as she has fallen in love with us (and one Hero in particular). She sees Humanity and Monsters as equals and wants to end the cycle of violence between them. Her plan for peace is quite unique: transforming all Monsters into lusty succubus-based hybrids females, and setting them out to score themselves Human husbands. Peace through mutually-ensured copulation, you might say. These new [[Monstergirls]] are collectively called ''Mamano'', and have a bevy of additional abilities to aid them in their quest for love that read off like a [[Powergamer|munchkin-Bard's]] character-sheet [[Diplomancer|built for maximum dickplomancing.]] Greatly enhanced empathy to the point of being a pseudo-empath or low-level telepath, [[Detect Evil|an instinctual aversion to evil and wicked people]], a voracious species-wide instinct for romantic AND carnal love, a libido that is as high as the heavens, an innate knowledge of the art of sexual activity, ambient mana-emission that not only changes the environment into something easier to live in but also enhances the constitution (read: libido), body, and health of the Man who bonds to them through their mana, and of course; a rocking 10/10 body and positively heavenly assets that would not be out of place in a Hentai, which is good considering that this IS a work of Hentai. | |||
By the era the Encyclopedia is written in she has completely succeeded in converting every variety of monster in existence into Monstergirls (apart from some [[:/d/|completely inhuman and debatably sapient tentacle monsters]]). She has also completed various humanitarian (monsteritarian?) efforts, most notably in the field of longevity so all the Human husbands don't end up dead centuries before their wives. Her long-term plans are to convert all Human women into Monstergirls and make it possible for Human Sons to be born from Monstergirls, essentially merging the two races wholly into one, with Human Men being the Males and Mamano being the Females. | |||
Human civilization is largely theocratic and [[Medieval Stasis|low-tech]]. The average [[commoner]] is ignorant to the changes the world has gone through and still thinks Monsters want to eat them. The elites of Human society are well aware of Monstergirls but despise them for religious reasons. Human armies; when they are not busy LARPing [[Crusader Kings#Crusader_Kings_II|Crusader Kings II]]; are in a constant state of warfare with Monsters, and they're usually getting their asses kicked, [[Noblebright|as few men can muster themselves up to the level of cold-blooded sociopathy that is required to murder]] a [[Waifu|beautiful woman who earnestly and obviously truthfully professes their love for them.]] The Monster army loses more soldiers to them suddenly going on a AWOL honeymoon with their newly deserted/kidnapped husband than actual casualties. The tendency of the Human Kingdoms to utilize female soldiers and Heroes (as would be expected of such an anime-dosed setting) doesn't help, as Mamano "weapons"; which are almost always non-lethal; are designed to infuse the target with demonic energy, which usually renders them either cripplingly horny, temporarily paralyzed in the body part hit, or unconscious. Human women infused with demonic energy in this way will inevitably turn into more Monstergirls ([[Succubi]] by default unless there is non-generic demonic energy around), and several Monsters ''already'' have ways of doing that, like [[Werewolves]] and the various species of [[Slime|Slimes]]. The culture of the kingdoms are completely intolerant even of formerly-human Mamano, so the turned girls have to throw their lot in with the Demon Realms or Monster-aligned states, with the result being that the Human Kingdoms invariably hemorrhage troops in the many brief conflicts with the Mamano either due to them becoming husbands or being monsterized themselves. | |||
Now why do the proud [[Imperial Guard|guardsmen]] ditch their duty at [[Extra Heresy|the drop of some monster-pussy]]? Because their societies are medieval shit-holes run by the exact kind of people you would expect to run such shit-holes, with a highly regimented and repressive caste system like culture that demonizes (ha!) and shames any sexual activity in general, and forbids relationships that either transcend social rank (e.g. a Lady Knight & a Male Commoner) or happen outside the permissions of an arranged marriage (e.g. Princess not wanting to be married off to Lord Farquaad). Just about everything in these societies is centered solely around extensive duties to the greater Order of the Chief God church or to the kingdom; and quite often those duties are one and the same with how entrenched and dependent on the Order the Human Kingdoms are, assuming of course that the Order just doesn't dispense with the pretenses and outright openly rules the kingdom. Essentially, Orderite Kingdom society boils down to nothing but work, duty, and sacrifice for the sake of the kingdom/Order, and you had better not step out of your assigned role in that society or else. | |||
The real kicker though? The God that the primary religious order among humanity worships; The Chief God; does not hold humanity's best interests at heart. The Chief God wishes to undo the aforementioned transformation of the Mamano, and turn them back into murderous and decidedly not-sexy monsters that only desire to kill humans. Why? Because the previous cycle of violence and death that churned on through countless Heroes and Demon Kings of old was entirely controlled by the Chief God, who used it keep humanity dependent upon it. The rebellion of the current Maou is very much NOT part of its plans, and a return to the previous system of cyclical Demon Kings and Heroes would turn the world into a [[Grimdark]] nightmare on-par with [[Warhammer Fantasy]]. Few know of the Chief God's true aims, with the vast majority of humanity and possibly the other gods remaining ignorant of their head god's malevolence, but it is implied that the very pinnacle of the religious leaders are aware; and supportive; of the true plan. The Chief God's side is not in anyway the [[Alpha Legion|"secret good-guys"]] of the story, [[Erebus|they are only fanatical sociopathic control-freaks who cannot tolerate the idea of someone living a happy life outside of their control.]] | |||
Mamano societies and aligned Human states; by comparison to the Orderite Kingdoms run by an evil cabal of pseudo-Shinto-Catholic/Jesuit-[[/pol/|Jew]]-hybrids; are far more free and prosperous cultures that thrive off of love and romance, being essentially societies set up for the maximum enjoyment and success of romantic couples. With the many cheat codes that abound within Mamano biology as described above combined with the practically do-anything nature of demonic energy, these places are genuinely enjoyable and incredibly easy to live in, being essentially utopias; examples include a Venice-like city of [[Merfolk|Mermaids]] and other aquatic Mamano, and a Dragon kingdom that lives off of tourism (all Mamano societies seem to extensively focus on tourism, but this one seems to live off of it). So when it comes down to living in either a grimdark [[Monty Python|Monty-Python-tier]] parody of a medieval society, or living in a literal utopia with abundant [[Waifu|waifus]], it's really not that surprising that most choose the latter. | |||
To be a man in such times is to be one amongst up to several Monstergirl wives. It is to live in the lewdest and most erotic regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of abstinence and innocence, for many have been ravished, never to be divorced. Forget the promise of virginity and being single, for in the [[Grimbright|grim]] and [[Nobledark|noble]] past there is only [[Rape|true love]]. [[Noblebright|There are no bad ends amongst the Monstergirls, only an eternity of honeymoons and lust]], and the shlicking of thirsty goddesses. | |||
==The Factions== | ==The Factions== | ||
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Thanks to [[Mary Sue|blatant creator favoritism]], the Monster Lord has so many ludicrously-overblown advantages piled up on her side it's honestly more incredible she hasn't instantly won the conflict seconds after starting it. And the fact that her ideal world would look like ''Brave New World'' as run by a particularly sick combination of [[Nurgle]] and [[Slaanesh]] is something of a turn-off for a lot of readers. Seriously, go read [[Chakat|this page]], mentally find and replace all the furry stuff with this-setting stuff, and see how accurate all the descriptions still are. | Thanks to [[Mary Sue|blatant creator favoritism]], the Monster Lord has so many ludicrously-overblown advantages piled up on her side it's honestly more incredible she hasn't instantly won the conflict seconds after starting it. And the fact that her ideal world would look like ''Brave New World'' as run by a particularly sick combination of [[Nurgle]] and [[Slaanesh]] is something of a turn-off for a lot of readers. Seriously, go read [[Chakat|this page]], mentally find and replace all the furry stuff with this-setting stuff, and see how accurate all the descriptions still are. | ||
Part of her eventual endgame involves causing monsters to have male | Part of her eventual endgame involves causing monsters to have male human children, in addition to their own female offspring(so far, monstergirls can only birth other monstergirls, one of the few hiccups in her plan). Again, most monsters have no interest in actively conquering human lands so complete assimilation of humans into the "new humanity consisting of incubi and monster girls" will, probably, take a while. It's been a few centuries now and things are still in a relative stalemate, though every once in a while something dramatic happens, especially since lately one of her daughters, Derulla, has taken it upon herself to probe the human kingdoms for weak links, and has already destroyed the nation of Lescatier by exploiting its internal flaws and transforming its various heroines into ravenous and evangelical monster girls by exploiting their neuroses. | ||
====Sabbath==== | ====Sabbath==== | ||
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The original masters of the world, led by a Chief God, who was gravely injured by the Monster Lord and her husband while trying to kill them both to stop their plans. Currently split between those who support the Monster Lord's plan and those who support the Chief God in trying to slay the Monster Lord and return things to the original cycle. Mentioned goddesses in the first faction include Poseidon, Eros, Ares, and Dionysus. Hilariously, [[Derp|the English translations refer to every single god thus far as a goddess, and most of them are named after a deity that was originally male]]. | The original masters of the world, led by a Chief God, who was gravely injured by the Monster Lord and her husband while trying to kill them both to stop their plans. Currently split between those who support the Monster Lord's plan and those who support the Chief God in trying to slay the Monster Lord and return things to the original cycle. Mentioned goddesses in the first faction include Poseidon, Eros, Ares, and Dionysus. Hilariously, [[Derp|the English translations refer to every single god thus far as a goddess, and most of them are named after a deity that was originally male]]. | ||
In all honesty, | In all honesty, some fans find the Chief God (who isn't the ''original'' Chief God) far more sympathetic than the Monster Lord. Yes, she wants to bring back the old cycle, which is bad, but otherwise she doesn't really work as a villain and is written too sympathetically to be truly hateable. KC has admitted that she was a rookie, and she ''knows'' this and that she's over her head. She's still hurt from a thwarted attempt at smiting the current Monster Lord and her husband, and she has no idea what she's doing, but she's trying to do a good job and set things "right" as far as she understands it, because that's what's expected of her. She's so ineffectual as an antagonist, especially with how stacked things are in the Monster Lord's favor, that some fans want to comfort her rather than see her lose. | ||
To try and counter this, KC has put out that it's officially fact that the Chief God will accept nothing less than the restoration of the old cycle, and doing so will result in countless grisly deaths as every former-mamono reverts to a man-eating monster and devours her spouse. Unfortunately, rather than instantly silence his critics, it has only made the setting look like a [[Grimdark|"you're fucked either way"]] sort of deal. (Pun semi-intended.) | To try and counter this, KC has put out new lore that it's officially fact that the Chief God will accept nothing less than the restoration of the old cycle, and doing so will result in countless grisly deaths as every former-mamono reverts to a man-eating monster and devours her spouse. Unfortunately, rather than instantly silence his critics, it has only made the setting look like a [[Grimdark|"you're fucked either way"]] sort of deal. (Pun semi-intended.) | ||
====The Order==== | ====The Order==== | ||
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==(Unintentional) Grimdarkness== | ==(Unintentional) Grimdarkness== | ||
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The original Chief God created humans, but was worried about overpopulation for reasons. So it created monsters to slaughter humans in sufficient numbers to cull them, before eventually creating the program of the Heroes and the Monster Lord: the Heroes get empowered when humans are too weak to disrupt the monsters' attack by killing their demigod leader, the Monster Lord, throwing monsterkind into disarray so that humanity has time to recover, and then eventually a new Monster Lord rises up and starts the same shit over again once humanity is waxing in strength. Said Chief God also forced the other gods to get in on this - Poseidon supports the new Monster Lord because she's sick of having to kill people with tidal waves, storms, and sea monster attacks. | The original Chief God created humans, but was worried about overpopulation for reasons. So it created monsters to slaughter humans in sufficient numbers to cull them, before eventually creating the program of the Heroes and the Monster Lord: the Heroes get empowered when humans are too weak to disrupt the monsters' attack by killing their demigod leader, the Monster Lord, throwing monsterkind into disarray so that humanity has time to recover, and then eventually a new Monster Lord rises up and starts the same shit over again once humanity is waxing in strength. Said Chief God also forced the other gods to get in on this - Poseidon supports the new Monster Lord because she's sick of having to kill people with tidal waves, storms, and sea monster attacks. | ||
Think the new Monster Lord is any better? Only if you don't mind the fact that she's bungling her job, and so mamono have swapped "kill and eat humans" for " | Think the new Monster Lord is any better? Only if you don't mind the fact that she's bungling her job, and so mamono have swapped "kill and eat humans" for "seduce and fuck" humans. It would be a relatively tolerable subjugation were it not the fact her stated goal is to drive human women ''extinct'' so human men '''would have to''' marry monstergirls, and so she is actively seeking to convert (physically and mentally transform) all women into mamono. Someone teach that succubus about "sustainability", but we are getting ahead of ourselves. In fact, this is explicitly what happened to the Dwarves of the setting: Dwarf-scaled Succubi were readily welcomed into Dwarf society, and many years of accidental selective breeding later, the vast majority of the Dwarven population are monstergirls. | ||
Also, a lot of the time when KC writes profiles he focuses ''so goddamn much'' on the aspect of how the men that monsters catch react sexually and how women caught by monsters end up going "Oh noes, how embarrassing, everyone can see my sexual repression!" that he forgets to ''actually write the profile'', causing several monsters to come across as significantly more horrible than he intended. Though this is still absolutely a rod this idiot has made for his own back, and he deserves your scorn rather than your pity for it. | |||
(Significant mentions include the matango, which as written was in everyone's "least favorite" category for years, thanks to, in a reference to a classic Japanese horror picture, seeming more like a plague of mindless fuckmushrooms than a fun monster; the Mind Flayer, where he got so wrapped up in masturbating over how the mind flayer can make a woman slutty that he forgot to clarify basic facts like a man's ability to go back and forth between squid-monster form and human form and that women don't ''actually'' turn into lobotomized corpses after being fed on; and the Atlach-Nacha, which, in addition to being a [[DFC|loli]], and therefore [[heresy]], also fails to clarify that the human being they turn into their spider body can turn back in favor of going on and on about random minutiae. There are many other examples; these are merely the most infamous.) | |||
Kenkou Cross has disagreed | Kenkou Cross has disagreed with observations on his setting's grimdarkness. According to him, the encyclopedia descriptions were exaggerating both the nymphomania of the monstergirls and the intentions of the Monster Lord - the unintended grimdarkness was in fact the product of shoddy translation work. As a result, he forced the most popular website supporting of his work to cease hosting translated versions of his material when a user there harassed him personally, among other reasons. | ||
He also supposedly likes to argue that the "blame" lies squarely on his Western fandom, since they don't get the overworked-Japanese-salaryman mindset (because apparently a love of pedophilia/body horror/mindrape is a side effect of stress now?) that apparently makes his setting such a paradise. So if he didn't want it to be grimdark, he shouldn't have written himself into a corner where grimdarkness was the only logical explanation for how everything was still working. Though, admittedly, his attitude wasn't helped by Western anti-fans sending him hate-mail and death threats. | He also supposedly likes to argue that the "blame" lies squarely on his Western fandom, since they don't get the overworked-Japanese-salaryman mindset (because apparently a love of pedophilia/body horror/mindrape is a side effect of stress now?) that apparently makes his setting such a paradise. So if he didn't want it to be grimdark, he shouldn't have written himself into a corner where grimdarkness was the only logical explanation for how everything was still working. Though, admittedly, his attitude wasn't helped by Western anti-fans sending him hate-mail and death threats. | ||
Oh, a reminder by the way: if the Chief God wins, then all those sexy monstergirls? They immediately revert back to being hideous monsters, and the mamono mindset of "love humans" will be forced to return to "kill humans" and most monsters will not be able to resist it. So a Chief God victory means restarting the original cycle, and anyone who has a mamono lover, is going to wind up being '''killed and eaten by his wife'''. And this time it isn't hyperbole, that's plain and explicit ''fact'', straight from KC | Oh, a reminder by the way: if the Chief God wins, then all those sexy monstergirls? They immediately revert back to being hideous monsters, and the mamono mindset of "love humans" will be forced to return to "kill humans" and most monsters will not be able to resist it. So a Chief God victory means restarting the original cycle, and anyone who has a mamono lover, is going to wind up being '''killed and eaten by his wife'''. And this time it isn't hyperbole, that's plain and explicit ''fact'', straight from KC -- one bit of grimdarkness he's actively promoting to make the Monster Lord seem the better choice than the old status quo. | ||
The paradox is perhaps best exemplified by the infamous "Fallen Maidens" series, from a side book about the human kingdom of Lescatier, and a selection of unhappy heroines who got turned into monsters by a Lilim before all going after the boy they collectively like. KC's ''intent'' was to present a pallet of girls who were essentially incapable of finding happiness as humans... but, in the process, he made them deeply fucked-up people, and had them carry the scars of their fucked-up lives into their new existences as monsters. The tomboy soldier with a complex about her own womanhood thanks to her abusive mother that ran out on her family and caused her father to undergo a possibly-lethal breakdown becomes an obsessive pregnancy-fetishist who wants to force everyone to become like her and doesn't even think about her dad anymore. The half-elf with species-angst becomes a nearly-feral wolfgirl who leads "wild hunts" of forced transformation to feed her own sense of liberation-through-animalism. The two princesses, one a heroine put on an impossible pedestal and the other ignored and overlooked due to a weak constitution, find joy in almost literally screaming "fuck you got mine!" and abandoning all concern for the rest of humanity besides than her beau and in transforming into a [[/d/| massive tentacle-queen]] and turning the entire castle into her mind-controlled sex slaves, respectively. One of them does some ''extremely'' questionable things to the orphanage full of underage children that she was in charge of prior to her turning into a monstergirl. The list goes on. | |||
TL;DR: Rather than actually finding happiness and peace, or acknowledging the ways in which their problems were all in their heads after being monsterized, the Fallen Maidens continue to unhealthily project their issues onto the world rather than healing from them, and their trauma creates such extremist monstergirls that it makes them almost impossible to like or relate to. | |||
This is probably why later stories, set in the same continuity, heavily tone down both the wild debauchery of post- | This is probably why later stories, set in the same continuity, heavily tone down both the wild debauchery of post-Lilim Lescatier and the severe mental issues of the post-conversion Maidens into something much more palatable. | ||
[https://allthetropes.org "All The Tropes Wiki"] (an uncensored fork of TvTropes that hosts all the PROMOTIONS the advertising companies threw a shitfit over) theorizes the grimdark is actually intentional after all, a sort of saccharine-flavored crapsack world where the glass is only half full (as opposed to Warhammer 40k, where the glass is half empty with holes drilled along the bottom). It's not a nice place to live, rape and kidnapping are so common on the frontiers almost everyone is desensitized to it, and roving packs of [[Amazon]]s and [[Drow|Dark Elf]] slavers aren't | [https://allthetropes.org "All The Tropes Wiki"] (an uncensored fork of TvTropes that hosts all the PROMOTIONS the advertising companies threw a shitfit over) theorizes the grimdark is actually intentional after all, a sort of saccharine-flavored crapsack world where the glass is only half full (as opposed to Warhammer 40k, where the glass is half empty with holes drilled along the bottom). It's not a nice place to live, rape and kidnapping are so common on the frontiers almost everyone is desensitized to it, and roving packs of [[Amazon]]s and [[Drow|Dark Elf]] slavers aren't sugar-coated at all... but there's plenty of people living decent lives and there's still plenty of ways things can get better. | ||
''Maybe.'' | ''Maybe.'' | ||
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As an aside, many also criticize KC because his girls look like mundane cosplayers, but A) it's not necessarily exclusive to him, B) there's definitely plenty of more 'creative' monstergirl designs in his world too, and C) that's honestly like criticizing the [[Nazi]]s for their fixation on leather and jackboots. It's valid, sure, but ultimately rings as a jaywalking charge amongst the arson-murder orgy that is everything ''else'' wrong with the setting. | As an aside, many also criticize KC because his girls look like mundane cosplayers, but A) it's not necessarily exclusive to him, B) there's definitely plenty of more 'creative' monstergirl designs in his world too, and C) that's honestly like criticizing the [[Nazi]]s for their fixation on leather and jackboots. It's valid, sure, but ultimately rings as a jaywalking charge amongst the arson-murder orgy that is everything ''else'' wrong with the setting. | ||
==<s>It's boring!</s> A Manwhore's take on the setting== | |||
{{Flamewar}} | |||
Okay, somebody has to say it: Kenkou Cross has managed to make a setting about hot rapist monstergirls boring... which is kinda astounding, in a way... | |||
When you read the profiles, you will probably think MGE is sort of a porny fantasy sword-and-sorcery setting where adventurers travel the world facing sexy monstergirls and being raped by them if they lose... or raping them if they win... whatever. | |||
In fact, MGE is a '''marriage fantasy'''(also a rape fantasy, and touches of loli fantasy here and there). It's all about bumping into a girl who will declare herself you wife, without any real effort from your part, but without any input either... which would be kinda great in the real world (since they tend to be nice to you and all are beautiful sex beasts), but, hey, in a fantasy setting with more than 200 species of monstergirls, I would expect something more... | |||
Let examine the problem a bit more thoughtfully: | |||
===Monogamy: You will probably have sex with only one girl during your whole life=== | |||
If I am to write, read or fantasize a story about a world full or rapist monstergirls, I want to travel the world and fuck them all, like perverted version of Ash Ketchum. But nope. You will only have sex with a single girl. Ever. | |||
According to the latest lore, monstergirls are A LOT into monogamy. Like, they will only feel attracted to one man during their whole lives, the one they will give their virginity to, and who they will marry. Which is great because they will never cheat on you, but, on the other hand, forget about sleeping around... if you have sex with a girl, she is you wife forever. | |||
When a monstergirl likes a man, she marks him even before they have sex, and from that point onwards, every other monstergirl will treat that man like a leper and refuse to even look at him. To make things worse, she doesn't need to tell him... some very young monstergirls mark a boy they like while they are still children, and the poor chump will spend years asking himself why all the hot monstergirls avoid him like he is trash, until the one who marked him deigns to claim him... which can happen very soon, or could take many years if she is shy... | |||
Yeah, there are a few monstergirl species who are into polygamy and prefer to be part of a harem, and there are cases when two non-polygamous monstergirls fall in love with the same guy at the same time, none backs down, and both marry him(on the other side though, are the ones who let their daughters have a crack at daddy until they’re ready to strike out on their own) but the point is, the guy doesn't get to choose, the monstergirls are the one who decide if you get a harem or not... which brings the next point: | |||
===Guys have zero initiative=== | |||
Men don't get to choose, and that's it. | |||
Monstergirls are always in the lookout for Mr. Right. They can sense if a man is married or already has a lover, if he is in love, or if he has already been claimed by another monstergirl. If they see an unclaimed man, they will check him, and they will know at once if he is the one. | |||
If a monstergirl decides that a man is her fated one, they are as good as married. Nothing will stop her. | |||
The flip side of the coin is: If she decides he isn't her fated one, he won't even see her, or if he sees her, he won't notice that she's hot... he will be blind to her beauty... all monstergirls cast that magic instinctively to avoid unwanted suitors. | |||
If a man goes deep into the wilderness, into No Man's Land, there is a good chance that any monstergirl he meets will be so thirsty that she will decide that he is her future husband, but sadly, the man won't get to choose what girl he will meet... he may be claimed by an unborn Harpy fetus, or be infected by a fungus girl... Also, that isn't of any help if the guy is into "civilized" monstergirls who live in cities and towns... a Kikimora or a Kejourou can observe thousands of men at their leisure and take their pick... | |||
Kenkou Cross probably created his setting to cater to men who are very passive and have no idea of how to speak to a girl or to get her to like them. He also declared that you can just fantasize about the girl you like and you don't have to include anything you don't like in your fantasy... but the kind of stories that can be written is still severely limited by his constraints... what if you want to read a story about something else that a super-passive guy being chosen as husband by a monstergirl? | |||
Which brings the next point: | |||
===All the girls are basically the same=== | |||
The profiles seem to imply that there are all kind of girls who approach men differently, but it's a lie. In truth, all the girls are the same, the differences are merely cosmetic. All the stories in the MGE world are the same: A girl sees a man, she decides he is her future husband, she seduces and/or rapes him, and they are married forever. No other kind of story is possible. | |||
Honestly, why bother creating a world full of monstergirls(the art, maybe)? If you are going to have sex with only one monstergirl ever, and all love stories are in fact the same, there only needs to exist one monstergirl in the world, the one you marry... what's the point of all the other monstergirls existing...? | |||
==...What? You're still here?== | ==...What? You're still here?== | ||
Oh, so you wanna know about the monstergirls we keep insisting prop the whole thing up? | Oh, so you wanna know about the monstergirls we keep insisting prop the whole thing up? | ||
* [https://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia Here, look at their wiki.] | * <s>[https://monstergirlencyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia Here, look at their wiki.]</s> Wikia is now purging all NSFW contents, so the wiki now moved to [https://monstergirlencyclopedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Encyclopedia Miraheze.] | ||
* [https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Girl-Encyclopedia-Vol-1/dp/1626923612 Or go buy it, you /d/egenerate] | * [https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Girl-Encyclopedia-Vol-1/dp/1626923612 Or go buy it, you /d/egenerate] | ||
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* [https://ask.fm/k_cross/answers/117249680981 Even after completely defeating the Chief God, the Monster lord will not kill her.] | * [https://ask.fm/k_cross/answers/117249680981 Even after completely defeating the Chief God, the Monster lord will not kill her.] | ||
You can look it up and support him on Patreon if you want; but he updates sparingly, being older than the current internet system of content creator support. (That said, his Twitter is apparently pretty active.) | |||
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Firstly, /tg/ loves [[monstergirls]], plain and simple - the average fa/tg/uy has grown up with plenty of media featuring settings where humans lived alongside other non-human sentient beings, and for all its many faults, the MGE is a widely recognized and well-detailed MG setting which both has consistently appealing artwork ''and'' does not shit it up with some of the more hardcore [[/d/]] fetishes, like vore. Whilst the MGE's setting could definitely be better, it could very, ''very'' easily be a lot worse than it is. Deviantart is full of artists who add cannibalism, hard bondage and slavery being common to monster-rich fantasy settings, and Kenkou, though misguided, still has a vague semblance of 'decency' in form of the monster wargods preventing death on both sides, so the victor can fuck/love the defeated to their hearts' content. | Firstly, /tg/ loves [[monstergirls]], plain and simple - the average fa/tg/uy has grown up with plenty of media featuring settings where humans lived alongside other non-human sentient beings, and for all its many faults, the MGE is a widely recognized and well-detailed MG setting which both has consistently appealing artwork ''and'' does not shit it up with some of the more hardcore [[/d/]] fetishes, like vore. Whilst the MGE's setting could definitely be better, it could very, ''very'' easily be a lot worse than it is. Deviantart is full of artists who add cannibalism, hard bondage and slavery being common to monster-rich fantasy settings, and Kenkou, though misguided, still has a vague semblance of 'decency' in form of the monster wargods preventing death on both sides, so the victor can fuck/love the defeated to their hearts' content. | ||
Secondly, every so often, a thread pops up on /tg/ about adapting the setting in some way. Sexuality aside there are good idea among the smut for interesting takes on monsters, spirits and other D&D creatures. If it's not anons asking how they can stat up a given mamono race as either PCs or NPCs, it's a thread asking how you might rework the setting for use in running your own campaigns, or even a simple "your last character/party gets dumped into the MGE world; what happens?" idle chatter-thread. In fact, this happened so loften that there is now a pretty much permanent "Monster Girl Worldbuilding" thread that has been running for months - in the grand tradition of /tg/ getting shit done, it's even produced four sets of homebrew rules for running a game in the setting: | Secondly, every so often, a thread pops up on /tg/ about adapting the setting in some way. Sexuality aside there are good idea among the smut for interesting takes on monsters, spirits and other D&D creatures. If it's not anons asking how they can stat up a given mamono race as either PCs or NPCs, it's a thread asking how you might rework the setting for use in running your own campaigns, or even a simple "your last character/party gets dumped into the MGE world; what happens?" idle chatter-thread. In fact, this happened so loften that there is now a pretty much permanent [[/mgw/|"Monster Girl Worldbuilding"]] thread that has been running for months - in the grand tradition of /tg/ getting shit done, it's even produced four sets of homebrew rules for running a game in the setting: | ||
*One using the WHFRP 2e system | *One using the WHFRP 2e system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-khJ4fE5v2MyrumyZoauEJ4VIucMO-kP1MGHNVtaDkc/edit | ||
*One using the Genesys system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/166447sk679VFybDfLoNwilCfYmtHZbCt3626u6BWPG0/edit | *One using the Genesys system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/166447sk679VFybDfLoNwilCfYmtHZbCt3626u6BWPG0/edit | ||
*One using the Dungeon World system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnxUNkYKWeDtVtyPk8sYAiTsfwBwcNeC1DKg_0GTb8U/edit?usp=sharing | *One using the Dungeon World system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnxUNkYKWeDtVtyPk8sYAiTsfwBwcNeC1DKg_0GTb8U/edit?usp=sharing | ||
* | *Monster Girl Adventures (An Original Game): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6DO3eO7T1pxFK7eoGT2QvEy2kZAW0MIQLnjhYZsVXg/edit?usp=sharing | ||
*An Autist's Collection of Various Monster Girl Settings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ePiGXhk7UW1hTwr6eRjh_BHpZ8vp5LcKDXzzLYXdf74/edit?usp=sharing | |||
Thirdly, 4chan's wanna-be rival [[8chan]] has the board /monster/, for which this setting is basically their bible: all [[monstergirl]]s that don't follow KC's rules of sexuality and morality are banned from the site, with the virtually dead board /chaos/ existing as a gathering for those few fans of monstergirls who aren't MGE-vanilla, monsterboys and monsterfutas. | Thirdly, 4chan's wanna-be rival [[8chan]] has the board /monster/, for which this setting is basically their bible: all [[monstergirl]]s that don't follow KC's rules of sexuality and morality are banned from the site, with the virtually dead board /chaos/ existing as a gathering for those few fans of monstergirls who aren't MGE-vanilla, monsterboys and monsterfutas. |
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This article or section is about Monstergirls (or a monster that is frequently depicted as a Monstergirl), something that /tg/ widely considers to be the purest form of awesome. Expect PROMOTIONS! and /d/elight in equal measure, often with drawfaggotry or writefaggotry to match. |
The Monster Girl Encyclopedia is a Japanese NSFW encyclopedia written and impressively illustrated by Kenkou Cross that fleshes out his monstergirl-focused setting. The entries are written in the style of a Monster Manual, but without any stats. The artwork is great (if somewhat contentious). Some of the premises are as interesting as they are "enjoyable".
So what's the problem?
Well, while everyone more or less likes the entries themselves, the setting around them is pure skub, built on a mixture of fetishized rape and other such sketchiness, along with the sort of unintentional grimdark only a /d/M building a world entirely for his penis to the exclusion of all other cocks could create. That didn't stop it from getting an English-translated hardcover first volume printed thanks to Life With Monstergirls. Time will tell if that was a mistake or not.
The first encyclopedia is written from the perspective of a human, a nameless Wandering Scholar. The second one is written by Saphirette Spherica, a formerly human monster girl. Whether or not this change in author actually results in a change in editorial viewpoint is... debatable. Kenkou Cross has tried to claim that the first paints the monsters in a harsher light due to faulty information, and the second in a more favorable light thanks to being written by one, but considering the first volume has nary a good thing to say about the monsters' enemies, stops just shy of all-but urging the reader to go fuck a monster right now, and is actually revealed to be cursed by a succubus at the end, well... doesn't really hold water upon any kind of inspection. Not to mention the idea that the monstergirl would not be biased in her writing is inherently stupid.
But, we're getting ahead of ourselves...
The Setting[edit]
To understand what happens, you must know of one thing: Dragon Quest. The first three NES games were to the Japanese RPG what DOOM was to first-person shooters, or Street Fighter II to fighting games. One of the concepts it popularized was the 「魔王」 Maou (or Ma-Oh or however you wanna spell it)[1], a.k.a. the Great Demon King. The BBEG of BBEGs for your stereotypical Japanese European Fantasy. Demons, Monsters, and even wild animals bow to their will, and will become more aggressive and hostile; many JRPGs will have somebody in the first town complaining about an increase in monster attacks, this dude is why; and their will is typically the conquest and/or destruction of Humanity, and they're usually not fond of Elves (with the usual exception of Dark Elves) or Dwarfs either. This usually leads to a war and a lone Hero who must gather their allies, journey to the Demon King's/Maou's castle, and slay them to bring peace to the land once more. This setup has been played straight, twisted, parodied, inverted, subverted and perverted in nearly every possible way in the thirty or so years since Dragon Quest came out. So here we go again...
A brief summary is pretty simple. A Succubus has overthrown the previous Demon King/Monster Lord and taken the throne for herself along with a new title; The Maou. Unlike the Demon Kings/Maou's of Dragon Quest, she doesn't have any particular hate-boner against Humanity, quite the opposite in fact, as she has fallen in love with us (and one Hero in particular). She sees Humanity and Monsters as equals and wants to end the cycle of violence between them. Her plan for peace is quite unique: transforming all Monsters into lusty succubus-based hybrids females, and setting them out to score themselves Human husbands. Peace through mutually-ensured copulation, you might say. These new Monstergirls are collectively called Mamano, and have a bevy of additional abilities to aid them in their quest for love that read off like a munchkin-Bard's character-sheet built for maximum dickplomancing. Greatly enhanced empathy to the point of being a pseudo-empath or low-level telepath, an instinctual aversion to evil and wicked people, a voracious species-wide instinct for romantic AND carnal love, a libido that is as high as the heavens, an innate knowledge of the art of sexual activity, ambient mana-emission that not only changes the environment into something easier to live in but also enhances the constitution (read: libido), body, and health of the Man who bonds to them through their mana, and of course; a rocking 10/10 body and positively heavenly assets that would not be out of place in a Hentai, which is good considering that this IS a work of Hentai.
By the era the Encyclopedia is written in she has completely succeeded in converting every variety of monster in existence into Monstergirls (apart from some completely inhuman and debatably sapient tentacle monsters). She has also completed various humanitarian (monsteritarian?) efforts, most notably in the field of longevity so all the Human husbands don't end up dead centuries before their wives. Her long-term plans are to convert all Human women into Monstergirls and make it possible for Human Sons to be born from Monstergirls, essentially merging the two races wholly into one, with Human Men being the Males and Mamano being the Females.
Human civilization is largely theocratic and low-tech. The average commoner is ignorant to the changes the world has gone through and still thinks Monsters want to eat them. The elites of Human society are well aware of Monstergirls but despise them for religious reasons. Human armies; when they are not busy LARPing Crusader Kings II; are in a constant state of warfare with Monsters, and they're usually getting their asses kicked, as few men can muster themselves up to the level of cold-blooded sociopathy that is required to murder a beautiful woman who earnestly and obviously truthfully professes their love for them. The Monster army loses more soldiers to them suddenly going on a AWOL honeymoon with their newly deserted/kidnapped husband than actual casualties. The tendency of the Human Kingdoms to utilize female soldiers and Heroes (as would be expected of such an anime-dosed setting) doesn't help, as Mamano "weapons"; which are almost always non-lethal; are designed to infuse the target with demonic energy, which usually renders them either cripplingly horny, temporarily paralyzed in the body part hit, or unconscious. Human women infused with demonic energy in this way will inevitably turn into more Monstergirls (Succubi by default unless there is non-generic demonic energy around), and several Monsters already have ways of doing that, like Werewolves and the various species of Slimes. The culture of the kingdoms are completely intolerant even of formerly-human Mamano, so the turned girls have to throw their lot in with the Demon Realms or Monster-aligned states, with the result being that the Human Kingdoms invariably hemorrhage troops in the many brief conflicts with the Mamano either due to them becoming husbands or being monsterized themselves.
Now why do the proud guardsmen ditch their duty at the drop of some monster-pussy? Because their societies are medieval shit-holes run by the exact kind of people you would expect to run such shit-holes, with a highly regimented and repressive caste system like culture that demonizes (ha!) and shames any sexual activity in general, and forbids relationships that either transcend social rank (e.g. a Lady Knight & a Male Commoner) or happen outside the permissions of an arranged marriage (e.g. Princess not wanting to be married off to Lord Farquaad). Just about everything in these societies is centered solely around extensive duties to the greater Order of the Chief God church or to the kingdom; and quite often those duties are one and the same with how entrenched and dependent on the Order the Human Kingdoms are, assuming of course that the Order just doesn't dispense with the pretenses and outright openly rules the kingdom. Essentially, Orderite Kingdom society boils down to nothing but work, duty, and sacrifice for the sake of the kingdom/Order, and you had better not step out of your assigned role in that society or else.
The real kicker though? The God that the primary religious order among humanity worships; The Chief God; does not hold humanity's best interests at heart. The Chief God wishes to undo the aforementioned transformation of the Mamano, and turn them back into murderous and decidedly not-sexy monsters that only desire to kill humans. Why? Because the previous cycle of violence and death that churned on through countless Heroes and Demon Kings of old was entirely controlled by the Chief God, who used it keep humanity dependent upon it. The rebellion of the current Maou is very much NOT part of its plans, and a return to the previous system of cyclical Demon Kings and Heroes would turn the world into a Grimdark nightmare on-par with Warhammer Fantasy. Few know of the Chief God's true aims, with the vast majority of humanity and possibly the other gods remaining ignorant of their head god's malevolence, but it is implied that the very pinnacle of the religious leaders are aware; and supportive; of the true plan. The Chief God's side is not in anyway the "secret good-guys" of the story, they are only fanatical sociopathic control-freaks who cannot tolerate the idea of someone living a happy life outside of their control.
Mamano societies and aligned Human states; by comparison to the Orderite Kingdoms run by an evil cabal of pseudo-Shinto-Catholic/Jesuit-Jew-hybrids; are far more free and prosperous cultures that thrive off of love and romance, being essentially societies set up for the maximum enjoyment and success of romantic couples. With the many cheat codes that abound within Mamano biology as described above combined with the practically do-anything nature of demonic energy, these places are genuinely enjoyable and incredibly easy to live in, being essentially utopias; examples include a Venice-like city of Mermaids and other aquatic Mamano, and a Dragon kingdom that lives off of tourism (all Mamano societies seem to extensively focus on tourism, but this one seems to live off of it). So when it comes down to living in either a grimdark Monty-Python-tier parody of a medieval society, or living in a literal utopia with abundant waifus, it's really not that surprising that most choose the latter.
To be a man in such times is to be one amongst up to several Monstergirl wives. It is to live in the lewdest and most erotic regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of abstinence and innocence, for many have been ravished, never to be divorced. Forget the promise of virginity and being single, for in the grim and noble past there is only true love. There are no bad ends amongst the Monstergirls, only an eternity of honeymoons and lust, and the shlicking of thirsty goddesses.
The Factions[edit]
Monster Lord[edit]
The aforementioned Big Chief Succubus, her human husband, their daughters, and pretty much every freaking mamono in the world. Want to bring about peace between humans and monsters by making human man/monstergirl relationships the norm of the world. To be fair, though, the vast majority of "normal" mamono don't really have a lot of ideological indoctrination so much as help her goals by trying to find someone to slip 'em the d - the Monster Lord basically leeches off of their "mamono mana", which increases when they fuck, to boost her own strength.
Thanks to blatant creator favoritism, the Monster Lord has so many ludicrously-overblown advantages piled up on her side it's honestly more incredible she hasn't instantly won the conflict seconds after starting it. And the fact that her ideal world would look like Brave New World as run by a particularly sick combination of Nurgle and Slaanesh is something of a turn-off for a lot of readers. Seriously, go read this page, mentally find and replace all the furry stuff with this-setting stuff, and see how accurate all the descriptions still are.
Part of her eventual endgame involves causing monsters to have male human children, in addition to their own female offspring(so far, monstergirls can only birth other monstergirls, one of the few hiccups in her plan). Again, most monsters have no interest in actively conquering human lands so complete assimilation of humans into the "new humanity consisting of incubi and monster girls" will, probably, take a while. It's been a few centuries now and things are still in a relative stalemate, though every once in a while something dramatic happens, especially since lately one of her daughters, Derulla, has taken it upon herself to probe the human kingdoms for weak links, and has already destroyed the nation of Lescatier by exploiting its internal flaws and transforming its various heroines into ravenous and evangelical monster girls by exploiting their neuroses.
Sabbath[edit]
A sub-faction under the Monster Lord's banner, led by baphomet mamono and primarily staffed by cults of witches, many of whom joined for "eternal youth" without reading the side effects too closely. This group is comprised entirely of loli mamono and is dedicated to spreading lolidom (in both senses of the word) over the world. Or, in other words, they want to convert women into loli mamono, convert non-loli mamono into loli form, and convert human men into "Big Brothers" (lolicons). They're the monster's primary source of R&D for various weird and sexy inventions. While each branch of the Sabbath is run by a baphomet, the organization as a whole is led by the strongest baphomet of all. This same baphomet also leads the Mamono Lord's army and holds considerable influence in the world of monsters. Surprisingly, she is noted to still be single, perhaps because baphomet normally only marry men who can beat them in battle, but more-probably so the lolicons in the audience can still hold onto hope of tappin' dat semi-jailbait ass.
Zipangu[edit]
The not!Japan of the setting, not technically loyal to the Monster Lord but still held up as the shining example of what she wants to achieve, with humans and monstergirls living together relatively peacefully, though often with monsters dominating humanity in the bargain. Would be Mary Sue if they had a bigger role in the world instead of being in the ass end of nowhere, but what do you expect when the creator is Japanese? Often a source of various "Eastern" versions of already-released mamono. Whether this is a bad thing really depends on your perspective, as well as the degree to which they successfully differentiate themselves from their predecessors.
Supposedly has clans of exorcists who fight monsters with about the same success as the Order, but are tolerated since some vicious monsters really do need clearing out.
The Land of Mists[edit]
Like Zipangu, only not!Chinese instead of not!Japanese.
Pandemonium[edit]
A faction operating out of a timeless demiplane. Allied to a high tier god called "the Fallen God", they're basically extremists on the Monster Lord's plan who seek to convert men and women to go to a dimension (Pandemonium) that consists essentially of one eternal, never-ending orgy. KC only made three profiles for this faction - the Dark Angel, Dark Valkyries and the Dark Priest - and often doesn't touch it for ages between profiles, probably because they tended to be the biggest fuel for the "anti-mamono interpretation" of the setting in the early days due to the rather limited lifestyle they subject their converts to. Hilariously, compared to the Monster Lord, they're practically vanilla: since none of them seem to go in for rape when "conversion" is much more fun. Moreover, since they have their own dimension, they aren't all that interested in altering the rest of the world, instead seeking converts to leave with them for Pandemonium.
Of course, the featured Fallen God-aligned maiden in Lescatier went and raped a couple little girl orphans she'd been caring for immediately after converting to its worship (with some prodding by Derulla), then pimped out all the other orphan children to random perverts in the street, so maybe not as vanilla as many would like...
The Gods[edit]
The original masters of the world, led by a Chief God, who was gravely injured by the Monster Lord and her husband while trying to kill them both to stop their plans. Currently split between those who support the Monster Lord's plan and those who support the Chief God in trying to slay the Monster Lord and return things to the original cycle. Mentioned goddesses in the first faction include Poseidon, Eros, Ares, and Dionysus. Hilariously, the English translations refer to every single god thus far as a goddess, and most of them are named after a deity that was originally male.
In all honesty, some fans find the Chief God (who isn't the original Chief God) far more sympathetic than the Monster Lord. Yes, she wants to bring back the old cycle, which is bad, but otherwise she doesn't really work as a villain and is written too sympathetically to be truly hateable. KC has admitted that she was a rookie, and she knows this and that she's over her head. She's still hurt from a thwarted attempt at smiting the current Monster Lord and her husband, and she has no idea what she's doing, but she's trying to do a good job and set things "right" as far as she understands it, because that's what's expected of her. She's so ineffectual as an antagonist, especially with how stacked things are in the Monster Lord's favor, that some fans want to comfort her rather than see her lose.
To try and counter this, KC has put out new lore that it's officially fact that the Chief God will accept nothing less than the restoration of the old cycle, and doing so will result in countless grisly deaths as every former-mamono reverts to a man-eating monster and devours her spouse. Unfortunately, rather than instantly silence his critics, it has only made the setting look like a "you're fucked either way" sort of deal. (Pun semi-intended.)
The Order[edit]
The chief religion of the setting and a fairly standard weeaboo take on Medieval semi-Christianity. Dedicated to the Chief God first and foremost, their duty is to ensure humanity lives safe, moral lives. To this end, they train divinely-empowered Heroes to go out and fight monsters. It's kind of unclear as to whether they don't know that the new Monster Lord wants to end the cycle, if they even know there is a cycle, or if they know everything and are deliberately lying to the general populace so they still believe that all mamono want to kill and eat them. The Wandering Scholar is worried he'll be killed if they catch him, and the original Encyclopedia had a warning about people being punished for being caught with it, but, well... remember how it ends with a call to arms for everyone to go out and become or fuck a monster, then with a second reveal that it's actually a cursed book that's either turned you into a monster or sent you off to stick your dick in the nearest one?
A lot of fans like to portray them as essentially a fantasy take on the Imperium of Man, but, really, that particular interpretation doesn't hold much water. If nothing else they aren't racist, having been on excellent terms with a number of non-human races before current events left humankind alone. Shit, settings material outright states that monsters are always happy when the Order comes crusadin', because it means they're about to enjoy the fantasy equivalent of a massive speed dating party. Due to the very nature of their teachings, the Order's men are such good people that most of them can't bring themselves to actually hurt a mamono when they meet one. Consequently, mamono consider Order men damn fine husbando material, and are eager to capture and "convert" them when they show up.
There are Order soldiers and heroes who will kill monsters readily of course, but given monsters will still fight and even kill to defend themselves it's dangerous work. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on one's perspective), the goddess of war protects both side of the war, and getting killed in battle is rare, so lots of beaten knights just end up getting convinced " the hard way" after a fight.
(Unintentional) Grimdarkness[edit]
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The original Chief God created humans, but was worried about overpopulation for reasons. So it created monsters to slaughter humans in sufficient numbers to cull them, before eventually creating the program of the Heroes and the Monster Lord: the Heroes get empowered when humans are too weak to disrupt the monsters' attack by killing their demigod leader, the Monster Lord, throwing monsterkind into disarray so that humanity has time to recover, and then eventually a new Monster Lord rises up and starts the same shit over again once humanity is waxing in strength. Said Chief God also forced the other gods to get in on this - Poseidon supports the new Monster Lord because she's sick of having to kill people with tidal waves, storms, and sea monster attacks.
Think the new Monster Lord is any better? Only if you don't mind the fact that she's bungling her job, and so mamono have swapped "kill and eat humans" for "seduce and fuck" humans. It would be a relatively tolerable subjugation were it not the fact her stated goal is to drive human women extinct so human men would have to marry monstergirls, and so she is actively seeking to convert (physically and mentally transform) all women into mamono. Someone teach that succubus about "sustainability", but we are getting ahead of ourselves. In fact, this is explicitly what happened to the Dwarves of the setting: Dwarf-scaled Succubi were readily welcomed into Dwarf society, and many years of accidental selective breeding later, the vast majority of the Dwarven population are monstergirls.
Also, a lot of the time when KC writes profiles he focuses so goddamn much on the aspect of how the men that monsters catch react sexually and how women caught by monsters end up going "Oh noes, how embarrassing, everyone can see my sexual repression!" that he forgets to actually write the profile, causing several monsters to come across as significantly more horrible than he intended. Though this is still absolutely a rod this idiot has made for his own back, and he deserves your scorn rather than your pity for it.
(Significant mentions include the matango, which as written was in everyone's "least favorite" category for years, thanks to, in a reference to a classic Japanese horror picture, seeming more like a plague of mindless fuckmushrooms than a fun monster; the Mind Flayer, where he got so wrapped up in masturbating over how the mind flayer can make a woman slutty that he forgot to clarify basic facts like a man's ability to go back and forth between squid-monster form and human form and that women don't actually turn into lobotomized corpses after being fed on; and the Atlach-Nacha, which, in addition to being a loli, and therefore heresy, also fails to clarify that the human being they turn into their spider body can turn back in favor of going on and on about random minutiae. There are many other examples; these are merely the most infamous.)
Kenkou Cross has disagreed with observations on his setting's grimdarkness. According to him, the encyclopedia descriptions were exaggerating both the nymphomania of the monstergirls and the intentions of the Monster Lord - the unintended grimdarkness was in fact the product of shoddy translation work. As a result, he forced the most popular website supporting of his work to cease hosting translated versions of his material when a user there harassed him personally, among other reasons.
He also supposedly likes to argue that the "blame" lies squarely on his Western fandom, since they don't get the overworked-Japanese-salaryman mindset (because apparently a love of pedophilia/body horror/mindrape is a side effect of stress now?) that apparently makes his setting such a paradise. So if he didn't want it to be grimdark, he shouldn't have written himself into a corner where grimdarkness was the only logical explanation for how everything was still working. Though, admittedly, his attitude wasn't helped by Western anti-fans sending him hate-mail and death threats.
Oh, a reminder by the way: if the Chief God wins, then all those sexy monstergirls? They immediately revert back to being hideous monsters, and the mamono mindset of "love humans" will be forced to return to "kill humans" and most monsters will not be able to resist it. So a Chief God victory means restarting the original cycle, and anyone who has a mamono lover, is going to wind up being killed and eaten by his wife. And this time it isn't hyperbole, that's plain and explicit fact, straight from KC -- one bit of grimdarkness he's actively promoting to make the Monster Lord seem the better choice than the old status quo.
The paradox is perhaps best exemplified by the infamous "Fallen Maidens" series, from a side book about the human kingdom of Lescatier, and a selection of unhappy heroines who got turned into monsters by a Lilim before all going after the boy they collectively like. KC's intent was to present a pallet of girls who were essentially incapable of finding happiness as humans... but, in the process, he made them deeply fucked-up people, and had them carry the scars of their fucked-up lives into their new existences as monsters. The tomboy soldier with a complex about her own womanhood thanks to her abusive mother that ran out on her family and caused her father to undergo a possibly-lethal breakdown becomes an obsessive pregnancy-fetishist who wants to force everyone to become like her and doesn't even think about her dad anymore. The half-elf with species-angst becomes a nearly-feral wolfgirl who leads "wild hunts" of forced transformation to feed her own sense of liberation-through-animalism. The two princesses, one a heroine put on an impossible pedestal and the other ignored and overlooked due to a weak constitution, find joy in almost literally screaming "fuck you got mine!" and abandoning all concern for the rest of humanity besides than her beau and in transforming into a massive tentacle-queen and turning the entire castle into her mind-controlled sex slaves, respectively. One of them does some extremely questionable things to the orphanage full of underage children that she was in charge of prior to her turning into a monstergirl. The list goes on.
TL;DR: Rather than actually finding happiness and peace, or acknowledging the ways in which their problems were all in their heads after being monsterized, the Fallen Maidens continue to unhealthily project their issues onto the world rather than healing from them, and their trauma creates such extremist monstergirls that it makes them almost impossible to like or relate to.
This is probably why later stories, set in the same continuity, heavily tone down both the wild debauchery of post-Lilim Lescatier and the severe mental issues of the post-conversion Maidens into something much more palatable.
"All The Tropes Wiki" (an uncensored fork of TvTropes that hosts all the PROMOTIONS the advertising companies threw a shitfit over) theorizes the grimdark is actually intentional after all, a sort of saccharine-flavored crapsack world where the glass is only half full (as opposed to Warhammer 40k, where the glass is half empty with holes drilled along the bottom). It's not a nice place to live, rape and kidnapping are so common on the frontiers almost everyone is desensitized to it, and roving packs of Amazons and Dark Elf slavers aren't sugar-coated at all... but there's plenty of people living decent lives and there's still plenty of ways things can get better.
Maybe.
...maybe not.
As an aside, many also criticize KC because his girls look like mundane cosplayers, but A) it's not necessarily exclusive to him, B) there's definitely plenty of more 'creative' monstergirl designs in his world too, and C) that's honestly like criticizing the Nazis for their fixation on leather and jackboots. It's valid, sure, but ultimately rings as a jaywalking charge amongst the arson-murder orgy that is everything else wrong with the setting.
It's boring! A Manwhore's take on the setting[edit]
This article covers a topic that, by its very nature, is a magnet for flamewars. Try not to get too assmad at what you're about to read. |
Okay, somebody has to say it: Kenkou Cross has managed to make a setting about hot rapist monstergirls boring... which is kinda astounding, in a way...
When you read the profiles, you will probably think MGE is sort of a porny fantasy sword-and-sorcery setting where adventurers travel the world facing sexy monstergirls and being raped by them if they lose... or raping them if they win... whatever.
In fact, MGE is a marriage fantasy(also a rape fantasy, and touches of loli fantasy here and there). It's all about bumping into a girl who will declare herself you wife, without any real effort from your part, but without any input either... which would be kinda great in the real world (since they tend to be nice to you and all are beautiful sex beasts), but, hey, in a fantasy setting with more than 200 species of monstergirls, I would expect something more...
Let examine the problem a bit more thoughtfully:
Monogamy: You will probably have sex with only one girl during your whole life[edit]
If I am to write, read or fantasize a story about a world full or rapist monstergirls, I want to travel the world and fuck them all, like perverted version of Ash Ketchum. But nope. You will only have sex with a single girl. Ever.
According to the latest lore, monstergirls are A LOT into monogamy. Like, they will only feel attracted to one man during their whole lives, the one they will give their virginity to, and who they will marry. Which is great because they will never cheat on you, but, on the other hand, forget about sleeping around... if you have sex with a girl, she is you wife forever.
When a monstergirl likes a man, she marks him even before they have sex, and from that point onwards, every other monstergirl will treat that man like a leper and refuse to even look at him. To make things worse, she doesn't need to tell him... some very young monstergirls mark a boy they like while they are still children, and the poor chump will spend years asking himself why all the hot monstergirls avoid him like he is trash, until the one who marked him deigns to claim him... which can happen very soon, or could take many years if she is shy...
Yeah, there are a few monstergirl species who are into polygamy and prefer to be part of a harem, and there are cases when two non-polygamous monstergirls fall in love with the same guy at the same time, none backs down, and both marry him(on the other side though, are the ones who let their daughters have a crack at daddy until they’re ready to strike out on their own) but the point is, the guy doesn't get to choose, the monstergirls are the one who decide if you get a harem or not... which brings the next point:
Guys have zero initiative[edit]
Men don't get to choose, and that's it.
Monstergirls are always in the lookout for Mr. Right. They can sense if a man is married or already has a lover, if he is in love, or if he has already been claimed by another monstergirl. If they see an unclaimed man, they will check him, and they will know at once if he is the one.
If a monstergirl decides that a man is her fated one, they are as good as married. Nothing will stop her.
The flip side of the coin is: If she decides he isn't her fated one, he won't even see her, or if he sees her, he won't notice that she's hot... he will be blind to her beauty... all monstergirls cast that magic instinctively to avoid unwanted suitors.
If a man goes deep into the wilderness, into No Man's Land, there is a good chance that any monstergirl he meets will be so thirsty that she will decide that he is her future husband, but sadly, the man won't get to choose what girl he will meet... he may be claimed by an unborn Harpy fetus, or be infected by a fungus girl... Also, that isn't of any help if the guy is into "civilized" monstergirls who live in cities and towns... a Kikimora or a Kejourou can observe thousands of men at their leisure and take their pick...
Kenkou Cross probably created his setting to cater to men who are very passive and have no idea of how to speak to a girl or to get her to like them. He also declared that you can just fantasize about the girl you like and you don't have to include anything you don't like in your fantasy... but the kind of stories that can be written is still severely limited by his constraints... what if you want to read a story about something else that a super-passive guy being chosen as husband by a monstergirl?
Which brings the next point:
All the girls are basically the same[edit]
The profiles seem to imply that there are all kind of girls who approach men differently, but it's a lie. In truth, all the girls are the same, the differences are merely cosmetic. All the stories in the MGE world are the same: A girl sees a man, she decides he is her future husband, she seduces and/or rapes him, and they are married forever. No other kind of story is possible.
Honestly, why bother creating a world full of monstergirls(the art, maybe)? If you are going to have sex with only one monstergirl ever, and all love stories are in fact the same, there only needs to exist one monstergirl in the world, the one you marry... what's the point of all the other monstergirls existing...?
...What? You're still here?[edit]
Oh, so you wanna know about the monstergirls we keep insisting prop the whole thing up?
Here, look at their wiki.Wikia is now purging all NSFW contents, so the wiki now moved to Miraheze.- Or go buy it, you /d/egenerate
Also, specific answers from Kenkou Cross's Q&A site, which briefly hint at the future of Monster Girl Encyclopedia world:
- The Order and the Chief God are, as anyone following the source material is unsurprised to learn, fated to lose, or at least never to win.
- The plan to have mamono give birth to incubus children is going to succeed within one lifetime, so complete extinction is not on the table.
- Even after completely defeating the Chief God, the Monster lord will not kill her.
You can look it up and support him on Patreon if you want; but he updates sparingly, being older than the current internet system of content creator support. (That said, his Twitter is apparently pretty active.)
So Why Is This Here?[edit]
You may be asking just why this page is here, and what possible relevance it has to /tg/. Well, there's a couple of reasons.
Firstly, /tg/ loves monstergirls, plain and simple - the average fa/tg/uy has grown up with plenty of media featuring settings where humans lived alongside other non-human sentient beings, and for all its many faults, the MGE is a widely recognized and well-detailed MG setting which both has consistently appealing artwork and does not shit it up with some of the more hardcore /d/ fetishes, like vore. Whilst the MGE's setting could definitely be better, it could very, very easily be a lot worse than it is. Deviantart is full of artists who add cannibalism, hard bondage and slavery being common to monster-rich fantasy settings, and Kenkou, though misguided, still has a vague semblance of 'decency' in form of the monster wargods preventing death on both sides, so the victor can fuck/love the defeated to their hearts' content.
Secondly, every so often, a thread pops up on /tg/ about adapting the setting in some way. Sexuality aside there are good idea among the smut for interesting takes on monsters, spirits and other D&D creatures. If it's not anons asking how they can stat up a given mamono race as either PCs or NPCs, it's a thread asking how you might rework the setting for use in running your own campaigns, or even a simple "your last character/party gets dumped into the MGE world; what happens?" idle chatter-thread. In fact, this happened so loften that there is now a pretty much permanent "Monster Girl Worldbuilding" thread that has been running for months - in the grand tradition of /tg/ getting shit done, it's even produced four sets of homebrew rules for running a game in the setting:
- One using the WHFRP 2e system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-khJ4fE5v2MyrumyZoauEJ4VIucMO-kP1MGHNVtaDkc/edit
- One using the Genesys system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/166447sk679VFybDfLoNwilCfYmtHZbCt3626u6BWPG0/edit
- One using the Dungeon World system: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tnxUNkYKWeDtVtyPk8sYAiTsfwBwcNeC1DKg_0GTb8U/edit?usp=sharing
- Monster Girl Adventures (An Original Game): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6DO3eO7T1pxFK7eoGT2QvEy2kZAW0MIQLnjhYZsVXg/edit?usp=sharing
- An Autist's Collection of Various Monster Girl Settings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ePiGXhk7UW1hTwr6eRjh_BHpZ8vp5LcKDXzzLYXdf74/edit?usp=sharing
Thirdly, 4chan's wanna-be rival 8chan has the board /monster/, for which this setting is basically their bible: all monstergirls that don't follow KC's rules of sexuality and morality are banned from the site, with the virtually dead board /chaos/ existing as a gathering for those few fans of monstergirls who aren't MGE-vanilla, monsterboys and monsterfutas.
/tg/ Races[edit]
Being a Monstergirl Fantasy World, it's natural that a lot of the entries in the Encyclopedia correspond to various races and monsters present in more mainstream works.
- Amazon
- Angel
- Basilisk
- Beholder
- Catfolk
- Centaur
- Chimera
- Cockatrice
- Cyclops
- Demon
- Dhampir
- Doppelganger
- Dragon
- Drider
- Dryad
- Dwarf
- Elemental
- Elf
- Fairy
- Familiar
- Ghost
- Ghoul
- Girtablilu
- Gnome
- Goblin
- Golem
- Gremlin
- Griffon
- Harpy
- Hellhound
- Illithid
- Incubus
- Jiangshi
- Kappa
- Kitsune
- Kobold
- Kraken
- Lamia
- Lich
- Lizardfolk
- Manticore
- Medusa
- Merfolk
- Mimic
- Minotaur
- Mummy
- Nightmare
- Ogre
- Oni
- Orc
- Pixie
- Ratfolk (the Large Mouse in particular is based on the Giant Rat)
- Redcap
- Roper
- Sahuagin
- Salamander
- Satyr
- Scylla
- Selkie
- Shoggoth
- Siren
- Skeleton
- Slime
- Sphinx
- Succubus
- Tanuki
- Therianthrope
- Troll
- Unicorn
- Vampire
- Werewolf
- Wight
- Will-o-Wisp
- Witch
- Yeti
- Yuki-onna
- Zombie
Gallery[edit]
- ↑ The word Maou comes from Buddhism, and was originally used in modern Fantasy in the Japanese version of The Lord of the Rings, as a translation of "Witch-King".