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One night /tg/ was reading Karl Marx and decided the [[Tier System|class system]] was a sham -- not because it isn't true (it is), but because people should be able to play a fighter without being out-gunned by skinny old men in pointy hats.
This is the practice of adjusting 3.5 mechanics, so every class is within the same [[Tier System|tier]]. It's a relatively easy way to "fix" D&D 3.5 to a reasonable level without outright brewing up a whole new game. The more or less agreed-upon house rules from /tg/ for doing so are as follows.


* Use Tier 3 classes unmodified; Tiers 1 & 2 are the 'why do I need to be in a party?' superstars.
* All [[Tier System#Tier 1|Tier 1]] and [[Tier System#Tier 2|2]] classes are banned unless otherwise noted. Things [[Tier System#Tier 5|Tier 5]] or below are generally not advisable unmodified. Everything else is acceptable without modification unless otherwise noted.
* Druids are okay if you use the Bard's spell slots; or ditch Druids and use Wildshape Rangers instead.
* [[Druid#Druids in 3e & PF|Druids]] are okay if you use the [[Bard#3rd Edition|Bard]]'s spells per day table. Alternatively, you can replace druids with the [[Variant Ranger#Unearthed Arcana|Wildshape variant Ranger]].
* Fighters add 1/2 their level to weapon damage and to initiative rolls. They can do Full Attack with a mere standard action. They get 6 skill points (+Int) per level. Or give up on vanilla fighters and go Warblade.
* [[Fighter#3rd edition|Fighters]] add 1/2 their level to weapon damage and initiative rolls. They can do Full Attack with a mere standard action. They get 6 skill points (+Int) per level. But you'll still be better off giving up on vanilla fighters and go [[Warblade]].
* Rogues and Warlocks should be merged.
* [[Rogue#Rogues in 3rd Edition|Rogues]] and [[Warlock#3.5|Warlocks]] merged together as a single [[Gestalt character|Gestalt]] class
* Healer class uses the Spontaneous Divine Casters variant from d20SRD.
* [[Healer#Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition|Healer]] class uses the [https://web.archive.org/web/20221228135348/http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/spontaneousDivineCasters.htm Spontaneous Divine Casters] variant from [[Unearthed Arcana#3e UA Content|Unearthed Arcana]].


[http://archive.foolz.us/tg/thread/24716456/#24716456| /tg/ thread on archive.foolz.us]
A note from a graybeard who has found that [[Cleric#Third Edition|Clerics]] can also be somewhat more balanced, and probably even used, in most campaigns:
*Clerics are ok if using the Spontaneous Divine Casters variant rule (linked above) and the Bard's spells per day table.
 
==Links==
* [https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/24716456/#24716456 /tg/ thread archive]
* Someone from the thread compiled the rules and homebrew from the above thread on [https://pastebin.com/ji4V1R0U Pastebin].
 
[[Category: Dungeons & Dragons]]

Latest revision as of 09:59, 17 June 2023

This is the practice of adjusting 3.5 mechanics, so every class is within the same tier. It's a relatively easy way to "fix" D&D 3.5 to a reasonable level without outright brewing up a whole new game. The more or less agreed-upon house rules from /tg/ for doing so are as follows.

  • All Tier 1 and 2 classes are banned unless otherwise noted. Things Tier 5 or below are generally not advisable unmodified. Everything else is acceptable without modification unless otherwise noted.
  • Druids are okay if you use the Bard's spells per day table. Alternatively, you can replace druids with the Wildshape variant Ranger.
  • Fighters add 1/2 their level to weapon damage and initiative rolls. They can do Full Attack with a mere standard action. They get 6 skill points (+Int) per level. But you'll still be better off giving up on vanilla fighters and go Warblade.
  • Rogues and Warlocks merged together as a single Gestalt class
  • Healer class uses the Spontaneous Divine Casters variant from Unearthed Arcana.

A note from a graybeard who has found that Clerics can also be somewhat more balanced, and probably even used, in most campaigns:

  • Clerics are ok if using the Spontaneous Divine Casters variant rule (linked above) and the Bard's spells per day table.

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