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Given the power of their sneak attacks, many builds revolve around turning invisible after performing an attack. This may sound pretty sweet, but said builds also often revolve around one specific kind of weapon (ice, radiant, etc.) and so a clever DM can simply not provide any of said weapon. Serves you right for min-maxing, I guess.  
Given the power of their sneak attacks, many builds revolve around turning invisible after performing an attack. This may sound pretty sweet, but said builds also often revolve around one specific kind of weapon (ice, radiant, etc.) and so a clever DM can simply not provide any of said weapon. Serves you right for min-maxing, I guess.  


Their skillmonkeying is more useful in [[Pathfinder]], where they now have a lot of exclusive skills that other classes used to be able to do well enough with the right buffs.   
Their skillmonkeying is more useful in [[Pathfinder]], where they now have a lot of exclusive skill uses that other classes used to be able to do well enough with the right buffs, and they get ''rogue talents'' that give them a little more unique flavor.  Have a Japan-flavored alternate class in the [[ninja]], which changes out some of those skillmonkey powers for [[monk|ki pool]] and general ''insane badassery''Each can crosstrain in the other's special abilities.


==Rogues in 4th Edition==
==Rogues in 4th Edition==

Revision as of 00:11, 10 October 2014

Rogue is a character class found in Dungeons & Dragons and Pathfinder, although the general archetype (usually by different names) can be found in almost every RPG ever made. Rogues are sneaky, backstabbing, thieving assholes, but they're just so useful you can't help but keep them around.

Rogues have a variety of skills that make them useful in various situations and, if they get a backstab, cause incredibly high damage, but they suffer from low hit points and shit armour. This may sound good, and they are pretty decent, but they're dead weight in a party with wizards, clerics, druids, erudites, or any other tier 1 class. Similarly, they also become utterly fucking useless in combat when something with heavy fortification, an elemental, a construct, an ooze, a plant, or an undead show up. Pretty much, if it's immune to criticals, the rogue can only pout as he/she/it/hermaphrodite becomes a useless skillmonkey, unless he/she/it/hermaphrodite starts diving into splatbooks looking for ways to bypass crit and sneak attack immunity.

Given the power of their sneak attacks, many builds revolve around turning invisible after performing an attack. This may sound pretty sweet, but said builds also often revolve around one specific kind of weapon (ice, radiant, etc.) and so a clever DM can simply not provide any of said weapon. Serves you right for min-maxing, I guess.

Their skillmonkeying is more useful in Pathfinder, where they now have a lot of exclusive skill uses that other classes used to be able to do well enough with the right buffs, and they get rogue talents that give them a little more unique flavor. Have a Japan-flavored alternate class in the ninja, which changes out some of those skillmonkey powers for ki pool and general insane badassery. Each can crosstrain in the other's special abilities.

Rogues in 4th Edition

See Bloody Path.

Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition classes
Player's Handbook BarbarianBardClericDruidFighterMonkPaladinRangerRogueSorcererWizard
Player's Handbook II BeguilerDragon ShamanDuskbladeKnight
Complete Adventurer ExemplarNinjaScoutSpellthief
Complete Arcane WarlockWarmageWu jen
Complete Divine Favored SoulShugenjaSpirit Shaman
Complete Psionic ArdentDivine MindEruditeLurk
Complete Warrior HexbladeSamuraiSwashbuckler
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Dragon Magazine Sha'ir
Dragon Magic Dragonfire Adept
Dungeonscape Factotum
Eberron Campaign Setting Artificer
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Miniatures Handbook Favored SoulHealerMarshalWarmage
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Oriental Adventures SamuraiShamanShugenjaSoheiWu Jen
Psionics Handbook PsionPsychic WarriorSoulknifeWilder
Tome of Battle CrusaderSwordsageWarblade
Tome of Magic BinderShadowcasterTruenamer
War of the Lance Master
Wizards's Website Psychic Rogue
NPC Classes AdeptAristocratCommonerExpertMagewrightWarrior
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Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition Classes
Player's Handbook 1 ClericFighterPaladinRangerRogueWarlockWarlordWizard
Player's Handbook 2 AvengerBarbarianBardDruidInvokerShamanSorcererWarden
Player's Handbook 3 ArdentBattlemindMonkPsionRunepriestSeeker
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Settings Book ArtificerBladesinger* • Swordmage
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The Classes of Pathfinder 1st Edition
Core Classes: Barbarian - Bard - Cleric - Druid - Fighter - Monk
Paladin - Ranger - Rogue - Sorcerer - Wizard
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Alchemist - Antipaladin - Cavalier
Inquisitor - Oracle - Summoner - Witch
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Arcanist - Bloodrager - Brawler - Hunter - Investigator
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