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2: '''Champions of the Proletariat''': The other side of the coin to what is listed above. These are either rebels against corrupt corporate overlords or a body of workers and soldiers fighting against fascist invaders, most people who complain about [[Games Workshop|GeeDubs]] think they are being this.  Occasionally show up in Medieval settings as anachronistic peasant revolts or other politically-radical types out to pull down the social parts of [[Medieval Stasis]].
2: '''Champions of the Proletariat''': The other side of the coin to what is listed above. These are either rebels against corrupt corporate overlords or a body of workers and soldiers fighting against fascist invaders, most people who complain about [[Games Workshop|GeeDubs]] think they are being this.  Occasionally show up in Medieval settings as anachronistic peasant revolts or other politically-radical types out to pull down the social parts of [[Medieval Stasis]].


3: '''GLORIOUS COMMUNISTS''': Somewhere between the other two and generally played for laughs. Communist regimes are oppressive, but also able to do great thing through sheer force of Industrial Might, soviet Super-Science, Stalinist Architecture and Will-Of-The-People and can be heroic just as easily as villainous. See Red Alert-II and III, and to a lesser extent a few parts of the [[Imperium of Man]].  This is as close to the glorious accuracy of communism as you can get, comrade.
3: '''GLORIOUS COMMUNISTS''': Somewhere between the other two and generally played for laughs. Communist regimes are oppressive, but also able to do great things through sheer force of Industrial Might, soviet Super-Science, Stalinist Architecture and Will-Of-The-People and can be heroic just as easily as villainous. See Red Alert-II and III, and to a lesser extent a few parts of the [[Imperium of Man]].  This is as close to the glorious accuracy of communism as you can get, comrade.


Communism has also provided us with the Russian army, which is awesome, in a drunken, drown your enemies with bodies and artillery sort of way. It is a sacred law of [[/tg/]] alternate history [[/tg/'s homebrews|homebrew]] settings that there must be at least one communist faction and it must control at least 50% of the world's total landmass. Even [[Warmachine| Khador]] draws on the imagery of the Soviet armed forces, despite being more analogous to Tsarist/Imperialist Russia politically, aside from their Manifest Destiny "Why can't everyone else just roll over and let us conquer them?!" ideology that has... [[Nazi| other roots]].
Communism has also provided us with the Russian army, which is awesome, in a drunken, drown your enemies with bodies and artillery sort of way. It is a sacred law of [[/tg/]] alternate history [[/tg/'s homebrews|homebrew]] settings that there must be at least one communist faction and it must control at least 50% of the world's total landmass. Even [[Warmachine| Khador]] draws on the imagery of the Soviet armed forces, despite being more analogous to Tsarist/Imperialist Russia politically, aside from their Manifest Destiny "Why can't everyone else just roll over and let us conquer them?!" ideology that has... [[Nazi| other roots]].

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Contrary to western propaganda, this is how communism has always worked.


"Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite."

Communism is the screwing over of the people and claming it is in the benifit of the whole (the "Greater Good", so to speak) and the ownership of all industriy by the government, making the nation get cought up in stupid beurocracy. There were various systems and methods based around the idea of not owning anything to various degrees employed throughout history, but proper communism starts with Karl Marx, a 19th century proto SJW who observed the effects of the Industrial Revolution. He observed that while the mechanization of production that was happening was a good thing as it generated a lot of wealth, it was grossly unfair that said wealth only benefited a few fucking rich pricks while most people lived in Victorian poverty. He viewed society as being on a very clear cut path of social evolution with clearly defined phases and stages based around competition between various socioeconomic classes, and came to the conclusion that soon a revolution would end the division between social classes entirely as a single centralized state claimed ownership of all property and land for the good of its people. While he never formed an explanation of how this would occur, he considered such a transition to be inevitable.

To make a very long story that composes much of 20th century history short and would likely require a college-level economics course just to understand why events played out the way they did, it was an ideal concept in theory but one which forgot the old adage "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". In practice, states that attempted to implement communist ideology either tended to devolve into dictatorships themselves or learned the hard way that controlling an entire economy in every possible way without something going horribly wrong is impossible.


Communism in Traditional Games

In general there are three ways communism is used in fiction and board games:

1: FILTHY GODLESS COMMIE-NAZIS: Dangerous, faceless enemies, ripped straight from the wettest dreams of the Cold War-era American John Birch soceity. These communists are the enemy; a vast, brutal, godless horde determined to take over the world that our heroes must resist. Nowadays, this attitude is usually played for comedy, as in Paranoia where Friend Computer's glitched-out personality has made it a paranoid wreck obsessed with a largely-imaginary adversary.

2: Champions of the Proletariat: The other side of the coin to what is listed above. These are either rebels against corrupt corporate overlords or a body of workers and soldiers fighting against fascist invaders, most people who complain about GeeDubs think they are being this. Occasionally show up in Medieval settings as anachronistic peasant revolts or other politically-radical types out to pull down the social parts of Medieval Stasis.

3: GLORIOUS COMMUNISTS: Somewhere between the other two and generally played for laughs. Communist regimes are oppressive, but also able to do great things through sheer force of Industrial Might, soviet Super-Science, Stalinist Architecture and Will-Of-The-People and can be heroic just as easily as villainous. See Red Alert-II and III, and to a lesser extent a few parts of the Imperium of Man. This is as close to the glorious accuracy of communism as you can get, comrade.

Communism has also provided us with the Russian army, which is awesome, in a drunken, drown your enemies with bodies and artillery sort of way. It is a sacred law of /tg/ alternate history homebrew settings that there must be at least one communist faction and it must control at least 50% of the world's total landmass. Even Khador draws on the imagery of the Soviet armed forces, despite being more analogous to Tsarist/Imperialist Russia politically, aside from their Manifest Destiny "Why can't everyone else just roll over and let us conquer them?!" ideology that has... other roots.

Like all radical ideologies, communists are all over the Sixth World, mostly among the poor and disenfranchised who can't help looking up at the big fancy megacorp enclaves and wondering how that makes any kind of just sense. The Berlin Flux State was probably the biggest and most successful anarcho-communist enclave in-setting for a while, before it became such an embarrassment to the megacorps insisting they should be the only game in town that many of them (including the one run by the great dragon Lofwyr) had it dismantled somewhere around second or third edition.

People like to call the Tau communist. There's some truth to that, given they're a highly-collective society that generally values group achievement over personal accomplishment, but they're also a largely class-stratified society, with only the assurance that their leaders are theoretically cooperating for the Greater Good to keep them from being out-and-out feudalists with castes. Then again, that isn't too different from what many commie states became. There is also the Gretchin Revolutionary Committee, a parody of the kinds of communist guerrillas of previous decades, who are armed grots out to demand equal treatment from their ork masters with comical results.

Golarion has got a semi-hemi-demi communist nation in-setting: Galt, land of insane, constant revolution where the only winners are the final blades. It represents the "messy revolutionary" kind of communism rather than any of the three flavors above, though there's some obvious mixing with the principals of the French Revolution that was its more-direct inspiration.

Star Trek is complicated. On the one hand, the Federation are essentially commies, but their advanced technology has created a post-scarcity economy so they can get away with it. Conversely, their chief rivals, the Klingons and the Romulans, are transparent parallel versions of the USSR and Maoist China seen through the pre-détente eyes of an American lounge lizard. Similar post-scarcity communists are common in Eclipse Phase, though with a much stronger anarchist bent. They are largely and uncomplicatedly perfect due to the game designers' raging stiffy for that kind of thing.

Any WWII or quasi-WWII game worth its salt will have a communist faction, including the classic Axis & Allies and the modern wargame Flames of War. Additionally, many classic board games have attempted to tap into the forty-five year struggle for dominance between Amurica and the communists. The most famous and best is probably Twilight Struggle. TSR also released an RPG set during the Cold War called Top Secret, though, like most non-D&D TSR products, no one under thirty-five has ever heard of it.

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File:AK-47.jpg|Glorious Soviet Industries could be used to produce huge numbers of reliable and effective things which are still in high demand after a half a century... File:Lada 1200.jpg|...Their cars are not on that list.