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* Distraction Wraithlord: It's big, scary, 3+ save, T8 and capable of fucking shit up.
* Distraction Wraithlord: It's big, scary, 3+ save, T8 and capable of fucking shit up.
* Distraction Wraithknight: It's bigger, scarier, 3+/5++ save, T8, 6 wounds and WILL be targeted by any weapon big enough hoping to harm it, even by the cannons of the Empire vs Dwarves game on the [[WHFB]] table.
* Distraction Wraithknight: It's bigger, scarier, 3+/5++ save, T8, 6 wounds and WILL be targeted by any weapon big enough hoping to harm it, even by the cannons of the Empire vs Dwarves game on the [[WHFB]] table.
* Distraction Hive Tyrant. 2+ armour and a +3 to toughness from Iron arm (assuming that he doesn't die before he can cast it). Also intimidates people like the Carnifex used to.
* Distraction Hive Tyrant. 2+ armour <s>and a +3 to toughness from Iron arm (assuming that he doesn't die before he can cast it)</s>He can't do that anymore, [[FAIL|thank you so very bloody much Cruddace]]. Also intimidates people like the Carnifex used to.
* Distraction Stonecrusher Carnifex - Someone in Forge World was pretty sad about Distraction Carnifex doesn't work anymore, so they create their own with 2+ armor and 5+ regeneration. It's cheap, durable, intimidating, but a bit slow, meaning it draws a lot of fire. Just as planned.
* Distraction Stonecrusher Carnifex - Someone in Forge World was pretty sad about Distraction Carnifex doesn't work anymore, so they create their own with 2+ armor and 5+ regeneration. It's cheap, durable, intimidating, but a bit slow, meaning it draws a lot of fire. Just as planned.
* Distraction Battlewagon. Simply give it some guns, a Deffrolla and put some nobs in it and your opponent will shoot at it like no tomorrow.
* Distraction Battlewagon. Simply give it some guns, a Deffrolla and put some nobs in it and your opponent will shoot at it like no tomorrow.

Revision as of 00:39, 19 February 2014

DISTRACTION CARNIFEX!

EVERYONE START SHOOTING!!

Overview

A well-known tactic from 4th Edition, which was actually kind of clever for use by Tyranid players. The idea was to use the reasonably-priced Carnifex of yore as a gigantic distraction during games. It worked pretty well, since the first inclination of any player seeing a Carnifex on the table is to blast the ever-loving shit out of it with every weapon they have. Because it was very easy to back up the Carnifex's 6 toughness with a 2+ armor save, it was actually pretty difficult to bring down one without using shit like Lascannons. Every round that you had say, a Leman Russ Battle Tank firing all its weapons at it and NOT at your swarms of Gaunts was generally a good thing, and since it was easy to make a distraction Carnifex mildly intimidating with nothing more than a weapon biomorph (giving it a barbed strangler was a good example), this tactic was very successful against smaller but more elite armies and helped considerably to deal with certain offensive builds.

Why It Doesn't Work Anymore

In fifth Edition, Carnifexes don't get extended carapace (so their armor save is, at best, 3+), and they cost a lot more. This generally prevents Carnifexes from being used in the DISTRACTION CARNIFEX role they used to occasionally serve in. The higher cost for biomorph enhancements is another reason it doesn't work. The big reason, though, is the combination of costs and armor reduction; a lot of weapons that were only reasonably likely to put a dent in a Carnifex in 4th (Missile Launchers, Battle Cannons, etc) are now quite capable of fucking its shit up en masse now.

Haha WTF

During one particularly notorious game, full of hot women post-codex update in New York - a Guard player allegedly killed a Carnifex on turn 1 by hammering it with Hunter-Killer Missiles after CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED-ing a mechanized platoon into position. Just as planned. Something like this also happened in the Ultramarines Omnibus, with a PDF soldier, Pavel Leforto, grabbing a missile launcher, running up beside the Astartes and firing point-blank into the open mouth of a Carnifex right before it could fire a blast of bio-plasma. He then proceeded to pick up a dead commissar's chainsword and fight the Tyranids along side the Ultramarine captain... and he kept up with the captain.

This isn't that weird, though. I mean, the Carnifex only has four wounds and it doesn't get saves from anything AP3 or better. You'd need, what? Four accurate missiles to kill one? Thanks to higher vehicle survivability and the Imperial Guard being the most frustrating heroic and invincible mechanized army out there - more difficult to bring down than Nidzilla ever was, so thanks Robin Cruddace - most all-rounder armies have more than enough heavy weapons to kill a Carnifex on a single turn.

...Albeit not on turn one from across the board. Using only Chimeras. Jesus.

Variants

  • distraction Furisio Dreadnought: drop podding theese guys with double frag cannons is hillarious vs orks
  • Distraction Wraithlord: It's big, scary, 3+ save, T8 and capable of fucking shit up.
  • Distraction Wraithknight: It's bigger, scarier, 3+/5++ save, T8, 6 wounds and WILL be targeted by any weapon big enough hoping to harm it, even by the cannons of the Empire vs Dwarves game on the WHFB table.
  • Distraction Hive Tyrant. 2+ armour and a +3 to toughness from Iron arm (assuming that he doesn't die before he can cast it)He can't do that anymore, thank you so very bloody much Cruddace. Also intimidates people like the Carnifex used to.
  • Distraction Stonecrusher Carnifex - Someone in Forge World was pretty sad about Distraction Carnifex doesn't work anymore, so they create their own with 2+ armor and 5+ regeneration. It's cheap, durable, intimidating, but a bit slow, meaning it draws a lot of fire. Just as planned.
  • Distraction Battlewagon. Simply give it some guns, a Deffrolla and put some nobs in it and your opponent will shoot at it like no tomorrow.
  • Distraction Deathwing Knights. Put Belial with them, deepstrike them right next to all the most dangerous units in your foe's army, and watch them squirm to murder them all. They may all die either by the sheer amounts of firepower or melee directed towards them, but it's worth watching your foe ignore Devastators, Deathwing Terminators, Ravenwing, and other such unit, just for the sheer infamous reputation that the Knights have gained.
  • Distraction MURDER SWORD: Chaos Space Marine one. Give a MURDER SWORD to a (random champion (NOT LEGAL)) chaos lord , stick it in a nest of Cultists, and laugh as the enemy targets it for the rest of the game because they don't want it getting within 400 clicks of their special snowflake character. (Though you are fucked if the enemy has good snipers, fucking Vindicaires.)(wont work anyway because it only works on 1 character that you have to declare and fex isnt a character)
    • (clears throat) "Look Out, Sir!" - on a 2+ for special characters. Even against Vindicaires and Precision Shots. Yes, I checked before posting. Is ignored by vindicares.

"Q: Does the Vindicare Assassin’s Deadshot special rule supersede the Look Out, Sir special rule for the purposes of Wound allocation, meaning that the player who owns the Vindicare Assassin is still allowed to allocate the wounds from its shooting even if their opponent makes and passes a Look Out, Sir roll? (p53) A: Yes." From the Grey Knight FAQ. So basically after your opponent passes his Look Out, Sir roll you get to re-allocate the wound. He can either keep making his Look Out rolls or just accept that you'll keep putting the wound back on that character until he fails the roll.

  • Distraction Riptide: the advent of the new tau codex means you can field a T6 MC with a 2+,3++ save combo and 5 wounds. Give it stimulant injectors and it can shrug off anything you can throw at it for not much more than its base cost.
  • Distraction Autarch: Autarch on jet bike with mantle of the laughing god, and lance. 2+ re-rollable cover save, and you can move it up to 36`. It can bust tanks pretty well, and will be targeted due to slay the warlord, although theres a one in 36 chance that it will be killed, so hah.
  • Distraction Dreadknight: Take a T6 W4 Termi with a weapon for ~170 points and see the enemy focus him without realy damaging him fast.
  • Distraction Ogryn Deathstar: 10 Ogryn with 2 Primaris Psykers (faq stated each get 2 rolls) with biomancy for toughness and allied dark angel psyker for rerolls on everything and 4+ invulnerables. Watch it absorb loads upon loads of fire as your tactical units sneak up on the enemy.
  • Distraction Eversor: Do pretty much anything with the thing, provided there are plenty of thing nearby for it to indiscriminately murder. Nothing gets your opponent's attention like the sudden appearance of a ball of distilled WTFery cutting its way through his commanders.
  • Distraction Devastator Centurions:Three of these guys all with grav-cannons and watch your opponent panic as they try to hide their precocious heavy armor and low Av troops while trying to out right murder these guys. Be warry, however, that this wouldn't work if your opponent have S10 AP1-2 blasts, linemakers or guns
  • Distraction Lone Wolf: Give your Lone Wolf 2 Fen Wolves and Terminator Armor and just let him roam. If you feel generous, slap a Chainfist on him.