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* Uriel Ventris - despite initially coming off as a subversion of Wardian Ultramarines-are-the-best Mary Sue bullshit, he quickly devolves into [[Skub|Ultramarines are the worst unless they use the Codex to wipe their asses and act like Space Wolves]] - which is pretty much limited to - guess who? - McNeill's OC-Do-Not-Steal Special Snowflake Ventris. | * Uriel Ventris - despite initially coming off as a subversion of Wardian Ultramarines-are-the-best Mary Sue bullshit, he quickly devolves into [[Skub|Ultramarines are the worst unless they use the Codex to wipe their asses and act like Space Wolves]] - which is pretty much limited to - guess who? - McNeill's OC-Do-Not-Steal Special Snowflake Ventris. | ||
* Varian Wrynn, King of Stormwind and leader of the alliance, from World of Warcock, is showing signs of becoming one. The signs are, first, his flaws are disappearing (or being blamed on a split personality) Other, more established, canon characters are being developed for the worse (such as Jaina and Tyrande. NOTE; they're also two of Warcraft's few major female characters) to try and make him look better. He's chosen as a champion of a powerful demigod even though there are many other better candidates such as MOST Night Elves. Finally, even though he's been a racist warmonger almost as much as Garrosh (who's set to be the final boss of the latest expansion) there are no signs that he'll be called out or face any negative consequences for this. | * Varian Wrynn, King of Stormwind and leader of the alliance, from World of Warcock, is showing signs of becoming one. The signs are, first, his flaws are disappearing (or being blamed on a split personality) Other, more established, canon characters are being developed for the worse (such as Jaina and Tyrande. NOTE; they're also two of Warcraft's few major female characters) to try and make him look better. He's chosen as a champion of a powerful demigod even though there are many other better candidates such as MOST Night Elves. Finally, even though he's been a racist warmonger almost as much as Garrosh (who's set to be the final boss of the latest expansion) there are no signs that he'll be called out or face any negative consequences for this. | ||
* Vriska Serket from Homestuck is an interesting example in that she's ''not'' a Mary Sue but she's actively ''trying'' to be one or thinks that she is. She min-maxes, exploits time travel to retroactively make herself critical to the origin of one of the villains (thus making her important), and tries to make everyone pay attention to her above everything else. This ends up causing almost all of the other characters to hate her (even John, who starts out liking her, quickly tires of her behavior once he meets her in person). The comic takes plenty of time to explore upon the idea of a Mary Sue and just how fucked up you would have to be to be one. | * Vriska Serket from Homestuck is an interesting example in that she's ''not'' a Mary Sue but she's actively ''trying'' to be one or thinks that she is. She min-maxes, exploits time travel to retroactively make herself critical to the origin of one of the villains (thus making her important), and tries to make everyone pay attention to her above everything else. This ends up causing almost all of the other characters to hate her (even John, who starts out liking her, quickly tires of her behavior once he meets her in person). The comic takes plenty of time to explore upon the idea of a Mary Sue and just how fucked up you would have to be to be one. The amount of focus she gets and the amount that she gets away with (before and after her death), send her back into Mary Sue territory, making it all very meta... or stupid. | ||
* [[Star Trek|Wesley Crusher]]. Originating from the same franchise as the original Mary Sue, Wesley is a very young ensign training to be an officer in star fleet, where he's earned the admiration of many of the bridge officers. He became something of a protege to Captain Picard, who was impressed by Wesley after he showed that he had learned all the controls at the captain's chair when they first met. <s>While not morally perfect or incorruptible Wesley is as close as he can be in most cases</s> He's only moral by Gene Roddenberry's standards (which were messed up beyond belief, the man thought it was okay to rant about women but not for children to grieve over dead loved ones, seriously we're not making that up), by a normal person's, he's smug and ego-centric, along with his Dues Ex Machina techno skills, which are shown off by making the rest of the crew look useless. He notably also gets the Enterprise into danger before getting it out of it, and never gets called out for it. Many people thought that he was an insufferable little shit, amongst them Wil Wheaton (the actor who PLAYED the guy). | * [[Star Trek|Wesley Crusher]]. Originating from the same franchise as the original Mary Sue, Wesley is a very young ensign training to be an officer in star fleet, where he's earned the admiration of many of the bridge officers. He became something of a protege to Captain Picard, who was impressed by Wesley after he showed that he had learned all the controls at the captain's chair when they first met. <s>While not morally perfect or incorruptible Wesley is as close as he can be in most cases</s> He's only moral by Gene Roddenberry's standards (which were messed up beyond belief, the man thought it was okay to rant about women but not for children to grieve over dead loved ones, seriously we're not making that up), by a normal person's, he's smug and ego-centric, along with his Dues Ex Machina techno skills, which are shown off by making the rest of the crew look useless. He notably also gets the Enterprise into danger before getting it out of it, and never gets called out for it. Many people thought that he was an insufferable little shit, amongst them Wil Wheaton (the actor who PLAYED the guy). | ||
* Any White Wolf employee that shows up at a Vampire LARP session is automatically playing a millennia-old demigod vamp. (I wish I was exaggerating; they've waded into living-city LARP games as antediluvians and permanently killed people's Camarilla characters.) Since these are (literally) self-inserts by the publishers, it makes them Canon Sues. | * Any White Wolf employee that shows up at a Vampire LARP session is automatically playing a millennia-old demigod vamp. (I wish I was exaggerating; they've waded into living-city LARP games as antediluvians and permanently killed people's Camarilla characters.) Since these are (literally) self-inserts by the publishers, it makes them Canon Sues. |
Revision as of 16:15, 20 March 2014
There are too fucking many Mary Sues in our games and fiction. We know it, and we love to complain about it, because it makes us feel a little better to call a spade a shovel.
(Note: please post Mary Sues in alphabetical order, so they don't fight about who's the better Mary-Sue. Also, this is about fictional characters, so while Canon Sues are acceptable, no real-life examples(even if there is such person named Mary Sue AKA the Scientology founder's wife I'm just adding that for fun.). For the sake of peace, religious figures [and possibly mythological characters; particularly when they're from original mythologies] are real-life examples).
- Alice from the in-name-only "Resident Evil" movies. A character created for the movies, she has superpowers and is
presented asENTIRELY invincible. She manages to becomes an even bigger Sue when she loses said superpowers yet continues to obliterate armies unscathed. The film refuses to even let other characters do anything but get rescued by her, she's worse than characters written by Mathew Ward. The bitch is played by the director's wife; she's his perfect Mary Sue waifu insert and she's literally sleeping with him to get the job. Don't forget that she dual-wields katanas. And shotguns. And probably Desert Eagles, too. - Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate (Not that prissy shit of an anime series), but we don't really care due to copious amounts of blood and gore. Actually, he's one of the only people on this list with a logical premise for his Mary Sue-ness, well, as logical as super vampires that kill cities for a snack goes. In the series finale he becomes even bigger Mary Sue since merging with Schrödinger, makes him a quantum paradox and unentangeble physical abstract who is also a Vampire. That idea is in equal parts retarded and epic.
- Andrew "Ender" Wiggin from Orson Scott Card's Enderverse, and a very blatant (almost comical to a serious reader) example at that. What's worse: he only becomes more of this as the story and the books progress. It's even worse in the 2013 movie. At least the books gave the other characters more depth, Ender's feats took more time to achieve, and some POV experiences that weren't about "Ender".
- On that note, both of his siblings. Valentine Wiggin, Ender's sister, a self righteous prig who is only overshadowed by her obnoxious, sociopathic brothers. Also Peter Wiggin, Ender's older brother, a psychotic sociopath with a lust for violence, who's intelligent enough that, as a child, he can create political philosophies so sophisticated that when he becomes an adult he's appointed Hegemon (Political Leader) of Earth. And no, despite the fact that being a psychotic sociopath with absolute power would make him a dangerous tyrant, he doesn't fuck up, and is regarded as a great ruler. Yes, this really happens.
- Every author self-insert. Especially those found in high-school writing assignments.
- All Angry Marines, done on purpose for lulz (hypocritical mary sues). Mostly because you can't beat them and they are the every fa/tg/uy.
Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore from HP, undefeated, all-knowing, gets cursed because he needs to, and even his death is planned suicide. When book tries to dig dirt on him, in the end his greatest flaw is that he "loves too much", and "believed Harry would do the right thing".Not exactly. He wasn't always loving and his "loving too much" technically got him killed. Wanting to see his family again (understandable, but he had his memories and even the book said the returned dead would be unhappy about it) he tried the ring not knowing about the curse put on it. That curse would have killed him if Snape hadn't slowed its spread then mercy-killed him later. In addition, he had no idea who the true villains in the second, third and fourth books were, which means he wasn't all knowing. In his youth, Dumbledore was an arrogant, selfish, pro-wizard bigot; this alienated him from his siblings, led to his sister's death, and both led to Albus' brother hating him for the rest of his life (starting with breaking Albus' nose at their sister's funeral). Though maybe he should've suffered more consequences for it.- Archaon, as he only loses to due Grimgor interrupting at the last minute. The campaign results not playing a role in Storm of Chaos can be forgiven because if Games Workshop used them like they said they would, the Hordes of Chaos would have been slaughtered before they even reached the Empire.
- Ash Ketchum, from the Pokémon franchise most of the time, though he started off as one. Sees a legendary Pokémon on his first day as a trainer (said Pokémon is a Legendary one most go their whole lives without seeing and don't know exists; also trainers who see it are marked for greatness). Meets Pokémon gym master Brock who looks after his younger brothers; yet Brock promptly abandons his job and family just to follow Ash around. Before this he met a girl called Misty, stole her bike and got it destroyed. She decides to follow him to make sure he repays her for the bike. This never happens. Instead Misty forgives the debt and falls in love with him, with no reason for either given in the story. This is without going into his ridiculous amount of luck in the story, which is evidence of heavy plot armour. It should be noted though for all his Mary Sue traits he has never won a Pokemon League championship, since his show is milked to the point of being dead as Post-heresy God-Emperor of Mankind. He is also the Chosen One in pretty much every other movie in the series, and he is also the Pokemon equivalent of a Jedi, but has never used any of his superpowers since 8th movie(except maybe for explaining Plot Armor he uses). not to mention when he got Flanderized in current seasons of Pokemon Anime, his Mary Sue traits are discarded in favor of Anti Sue traits
- Austin Powers, he makes Plot-induced Stupidity his Superpower. However he is a parody of James Bond, another Mary Sue.
- Batman, depending the writer, usually if it's one of his fanboys, such as what Frank Miller has descended into. Though every one of the writers for Batman's story, except Alan Moore, forgets that Batman is only human that simply can performs Superhuman feats(Depending on the version) and he could be easily killed by a blow or bullet to the head (for those who say "his headpiece is armored", it isn't in every version and he always leaves his mouth exposed).
- The Blaz Ravens, for comedic effect.
- Bella
- Brian, the dog from that awful cartoon Family Guy. Even with the show's unoriginality and forced jokes, the creator Seth Mcfarlane had to use Brian as his own self insert/mouthpiece for him to spew out his (Seth's, not Brian's) views to the audience. He did so a lot in the most pretentious way possible, and never considered opinions or facts that disagree with his views. Macfarlane even had Brian resurrected after having been dead for an episode for no reason other than attention grabbing. What makes this example even worse is Seth dislikes theistic religions (such as Christianity), yet in a huge display of hypocrisy he used Christian symbolism for his favorite character.
- Cato Sicarius. Seriously this guy is mary sue's mary sue. He was born to a noble house on Talassar, trained with a sword as soon as he could hold one, inducted into the Ultramarines. He got commendation after commendation going from sergeant to company champion to Captain of the 2nd Company in several decades. He refined lightning assaults to near perfection and knows what to do after giving the battlefields a quick glance. He leads a company of miny sues, each squad having some title for some great feat; their devastators having destroyed a titan, and a tactical squad that hasn't taken a casualty in close to 100 years. He is not only captain of the 2nd but "Master of the Watch", "Knight Champion of Macragge", "Grand Duke of Talassar", and "High Suzerain of Ultramar", seriously those last two titles are completely made up. He's a complete dick, valuing glory for himself and his company over all else, admitting to his men that he didn't care about planet Damnos when they were battling the necrons over it(where he got his ass handed to him by a noname Necron Lord). He also decided to appoint himself judge, jury, and executioner, to judge Uriel Ventris when he broke from the codex, even though they're the same rank and only the chapter master has the right to do stuff like that. Oh yeah that reminds me, to top it all off most of the chapter thinks he's next in line to be chapter master, instead of Captain Agemman of the first company, even though he's got much(see fucktons) more experience then Sicarius. Add all that to the mary sueness of being a space marine and being in the Ultramarines and it reaches critical levels.
- C'tan (
They're Gods though, so they have an excuseNope. They're Pokémons.) - ALL Chakats! The entire fucking race are distilled and purified Mary Sues, sometimes warping stories they are even mentioned in passing. Not just feline-centaur dick-girls(Sick Fucks), they're also each master psionicists with faster-than-light mind-reading, able to cure deep neurotic complexes with a good deep dickin', strongest and most stable form of 'Taurs', considered as the most "beautiful thing in the universe" despite looking exactly like lions with the fact that they have dicks, morally perfect to the extreme, nobody technically hates them, their breast milk can turn the most feeble human into mini-Arnold Schwarzeneggers and every non-Chakats seem to have a unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle on trying to "Do it" with them. Despite the fact that there are hundreds of other Catgirls outside of this furfag heresy, that are more attractive, cuter and prettier then them with the added benefit that they are actually female, not hermaphrodite abominations.
- Charlie Harper from Two and a Half Men. Most of the time the character only exists as a series of blowjobs (sometimes literally) for the ego of the actor who plays him. Guess what the actor's first name is... (for those who don't know, his last name is Sheen, and I don't mean his father Martin Sheen). Well he is dead now(WINNING!) and was replaced by other mary sue.
- Chris Thorndyke
- Chiffron and True Pandora(they actually calls themselves that) from the FATAL level of shit manga
FreezingFailzing, in fact has Twatlight amount of Sues. - Cordell Walker from Walker Texas Ranger (the source of all the Chuck-Norris jokes), but he's actually eh pretty cool guy.
- Creed, because he goes from being a homeless orphan in a ruined town to military commander of Cadia (a vital fortress world) within a few decades. Going by his character description and fluff he doesn't have any flaws, he's never made any mistakes, and none of his plans have failed (even Matt Ward let his pet Ultrasmurfs lose once). Also, crunch-wise, he's a human not even one hundred years old yet his rules make him a better tactician than beings many times older, more powerful and more experienced than him (such as centuries-old Eldar Autarchs and Space Marine Captains, or millennia-old Dark Eldar Archons and Necron Overlords). He even beat Tzeentch in a game of chess.
DanteDonte from the rebooted DmC. Tameem Antoniades, a Wardian tier faggot working at Ninja Theory personally have the new Dante look just like him. If that isn't enough, he made Dante even more unlikable with his childish behavior and swearing bullshit. FUCK YOU.- Divis Mal from the RPG Aberrant. Oh, where to begin? Well, first of all, the creator of the game was a gay man with issues, and Divis is his self-insert character. On top of being the absolute, balls-out, most powerful Aberrant in the setting, ever, he's super smart, plans for everything, never loses no matter what the players do, and has an ideology that can basically be described as "like Magneto, only right. About everything." He's also in a loving relationship with a super-attractive partner who is also super-powerful, and his enemies are all stupid and happen to be straw-stuffed right-wing stereotypes because of course they are. Said designer once claimed that the title of the game referred to him specifically. It was all the sequel game could do to take the piss out of all the problems he caused.
- Dr. Doom, depending on the writer. Worst case is he's written by somebody that forgets that he's a VILLAIN and depicts his rule over Latveria as unrealistically benign and it make look like the superheroes are wrong for trying to keep him from taking over the world.
- Drift from IDW's Transformers continuity shows how even a Mary Sue can be rescued from epic levels of FAIL. When first introduced he was Shane McCarthy's pet self-insert who was basically perfect and awesome in every way. He hit almost all of the ticks of Mary Sue self-inserts and cliches in Transformers fanfiction (he's a former Decepticon who became a good guy, he's overpowered, he transforms into a super sleek cool sports car, etc.) and ended up sticking out like a sore thumb. But than the fantastic James Roberts came to the rescue in "More Than Meets The Eye" and tossed all of Drift's Mary Sue shit to the curb while keeping all the stuff about him that was awesome. An excellent example of how important a good writer is and how much of a difference it can make.
- Drizzt .(Deep down inside, you know it's true)
- Edward
- Eldrad, and what's worse: he knows he is, and is a complete dick about it.
- Elves, especially their heroes, though there are some exceptions.
- Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite. Plot-sustaining power (the key to the whole plot literally rests in her hands), cannot be harmed, makes a grown veteran of war look like an idiot child, placed in easily escapable situations for the pure purpose of being saved when she can plausibly save herself, makes none of the major (or minor) mistakes in the game. While some claim that she greatly dislikes violence, especially killing, she in fact killed a number of key characters in the game (Daisy Fitzroy, Dr. P. Pettifog & assistants, Songbird, Booker/Comstock). To made her comparable to sues like Lightning and Alice, Ken Levin told the trolls who 34'd his perfect wife purpose, which result in a hilarious reverse psychology that gave Ken Levin what he wanted.
- Elminster Aumar (Forgotten Realms), who despite being unbelievably old and looking it, is having a threesome with his adoptive albino elf-daughter chick and the living goddess of magic right now, possibly while beating Bane in a sword fight with one hand and Bhaal in a magic fight with the other.
- Ember Storm
- Eragon, from the Inheritance novels. Originally written to be the author's self insert, he ended up as his own character; a sociopathic, whiny, medieval rip-off of Luke Skywalker. Within two months he becomes a near unstoppable swordsman and learns how to read and write. Many times he accomplishes near-impossible things with magic (the worst case being when he discovers the long-lost true name of the magic language and uses it to rewrite the laws of magic). By the end of the second book he's pretty much a Jedi-elf. He swears that he won't kill if he has the choice, and won't abuse his power, only to turn around and do both. Especially when he uses magic to make his cousin's fiancee's father Sloan forcibly walk from one side of the country to the other, never see his daughter again (NOTE: she is the only thing in the world he loves), and be trapped in the elven forest until Eragon thinks he's made up for his past dickishness (despite the fact that Eragon had no right to appoint himself judge, jury and executioner over Sloan since Sloan's treachery only directly affected other people). Also, Sloan was half starved from being incarcerated, clothed in rags and fucking blind from having his eyes pecked out of his head. Despite Eragon's flaws and abuse of power, nearly everyone in the story loves him; the few characters that don't are portrayed negatively and/or something terrible happens to them.
- On that note, the character of Angela, who is such a blatant self-insert of the author's sister, she even shares the same name.
- Godzilla, depending on the movie.
- Golden Aquilas, also done on purpose for lulz.
- Green Lantern, especially Hal Jordan. All the Human Green Lanterns are regularly shown to be the best Lanterns in the core because they ALL have either, indomitable willpower, skill, and courage, surpassing others who have been in the core for decades. Most other lanterns, exist only to be killed off as a means of showing how dangerous a threat is. They're only ever effective when they are helping the Human ones.
- Grimgor Ironhide. He never loses, and if he does, any defeats he has are rendered non-canon. Plus HE causes Archeon's defeat and not of characters arranged against him.
- Hannibal Lecter. Not in the first two movies, he was awesome then. Now he's getting overused and nonsensical as he approaches Villain Sue territory.
- Hoah from Shaman King. If there is any villain that can truly be called a Mary Sue, it's him, most other villains with this accusation still get defeated. Hoah not only proves invincible throughout the whole series, able to easily pull of feats that are impossible for everybody else, he also has the ability to revive himself if killed, meaning even the heroes beat him, which they state is impossible in a straight-up fight, it would be pointless, because he'd just back even stronger. The writer couldn't think of way to defeat him, so he instead makes a last minute turn towards good, getting away with a number of atrocities that would make numerous the Warriors Of Chaos jealous.
- Humanity; while not every human in fiction is a Mary Sue, in stories where we get featured alongside intelligent non-human species many authors make the human race as a whole Mary Sues. In nearly every sci-fi or fantasy story humans are either the dominant race or become the dominant race regardless of their abilities/numbers compared to other races. They are always the POV of the story even if intelligent non-human races exist (NOTE: Skilled authors can do the POV of a non-human character without humanizing them too much) or protagonists who only win because they're the favorite character/faction of the story's creators. Finally, the hero ultimately responsible for saving the day is always a human (for an example on this list, see the "Green Lantern" point).
- IG-88 in the Star Wars expanded universe, given that he easily breaks into the second Death Star and uploads his personality into it and takes control with nobody noticing, and before that single-handedly took over a planet.
- Jacob.
- Jean Luc Picard (Not that anyone cares).
- Jedi erratically jump around the Mary Sue meter depending on the author. While not all Mary Sues, Jedi characters always have the potential to become one. The usual Mary-Sue reality-warping is actually one of their well-known abilities, from "subtly" changing the minds of people around them, to Jedi who use their quasi-Taoist powers to manipulate fate and fortune of entire battles, or generations of families.
- James Bond. To what degree varies, but the Roger Moore version is the worst offender; he's unbeatable at just about everything, a ladies-man to an unrealistic degree, implausibly intelligent, a crack shot, and basically unkillable. In the books however he is an unlikable git and an alcoholic, yet still gets shit done.
- Capt. Janeway of the starship Voyager. She was always presented as being right in every situation and gets away with a number of atrocities that surpass many of Star Trek's villains.
- Jigsaw from the Saw films. Pick any character you think of with long list of skills or attributes, this guy has more, and he keeps getting away for a half dozen movies.
- Kahlee Sanders (though her Sueness is debatable) from the Mass Effect novels Revelation, Ascension and Retribution. Though well-written, she has several Mary Sue traits. She has blonde-brown hair in a setting where blondes are almost extinct (blondes are rare because society has advanced to the point where foolish prejudices, such as those based on skin color and nationality, have almost disappeared, leading to intermingling between various ethnicities and making most humans mixed race), her father is Jon Grissom (a retired war hero and Mass Relay trailblazer), she's David Anderson's love interest (he's a war hero and a major character in the games), one of the first and only non-quarians allowed to visit the Migrant Fleet in history (she is also the only reason it happens), one of the most brilliant human scientists in the galaxy and in each novel a large part of the plot is "the villains of the story needing to find her", reminiscent of Elizabeth from Bioshock. Written by Drew Karpyshyn, lead writer for the first two Mass Effect games and technically the creator of Mass Effect, the traits are explained well enough to be debatably justified, otherwise Kahlee is a Canon Sue. It's to the franchise's credit that the closest character to a Mary Sue is of debatable status.
- Kaldor Draigo. Two simple words: Matt fucking Ward.
- Kalecgos (AKA Kalec), blue dragon who can disguise himself as a human-elf hybrid; from World of Warcrabs. Ham-fistedly inserted into the Blood Elves' redemption story arc as an enabler. Later he takes over the blue dragonflight even though he's not the oldest, wisest or most powerful blue dragon. Later he hooks up with a Jaina Proudmoore, a powerful human mage/noblewoman/faction leader introduced in Warcraft III. She does this in spite of their vast age difference (which made her reject an Elven prince who loved her).
- Kenshiro, nothing can kill him and he's morally flawless, superior to everyone-fucking-else. At least until Shin Sagain the anime, where he starts fucking up often, even with his super kung-fu laser ninja powers. Most battles are curb-stomps until later on because it's a fucking show from the 80s. Note, however, that Kenshiro loses a lot, especially later on, and mostly wins his hardest battles because he's the only one worth a shit left alive by that point in the series.
- Kharn, though he'd be an even bigger one if he actually had any impact on the plot, but is still a pretty swell guy.
- Kratos from God of War. He curb-stomps fucking gods due to plot armor (and because one of them decided to give a bloody psychopath god powers; MENSA applicant right there) and he has threesomes with complete strangers, even though he is meant to be grieving for the death of his family that he murdered himself. Oh and the rules for how death works change whenever it's convenient for him.
- Krasus (AKA Korialstraz) from World of Warcrud, mainly due to the author's overuse of him. An elf who's secret identity is he's really a dragon, and one of the oldest living ones. One of the leaders of the Kirin Tor. Consort/ Advisor of the Dragon Queen, he might as well be the Dragon King considering how much importance she puts on him. He also gets sent back in time to partake of a historical event despite the fact HIS YOUNGER SELF WAS AROUND IN THAT TIME. He also set up another Mary Sue in Warcraft, Rhonin (NOTE; both characters were created by the same author).
- Kvothe/Kote from Ultimate Neckbeard Patrick Rothfuss
- The Light from the Young Justice cartoon adaption. They can only lose if the plot requires it, and the number of times that happens can be counted on one hand. Plus they're boring.
- Lightning from Final Fantasy 13, she is basically a pink-haired Cloud without any of Cloud's likable personality traits. She's currently the NEW AND ASTONISHING HEAVENLY Valkyrie that fights a purple Sephiroth in her new game "Lightning's Return". Not that we care, but she was created by Motomu Toriyama(Matt Ward's Japanese cousin), a man with a Chris-Chan-like persona and Matthew Ward style writing who is now continuously raping the franchise. He has a waifu love for Lightning like Paul has for Alice. Lightning is comparable to Alice on many levels, which says a lot, really. She also has tons of fucking DLC "costume" dedicated to her so the player could dress her up and fap her to death. This is so fucking shameful that I'm crazy enough to believe Alice is a much capable heroine. Somebody kill me, please. Oh, just recently, Toriyama decided to have Lightning to become a guest character in the future final fantasy. So not only is the franchise gonna suffer the rotting Emperor syndrome, lightning is now the literal goddess of every final fantasy game? Seriously, have you seen Paul ever done such disgusting thing with Alice? Like forcing Alice into the actual resident evil game(Well the resident evil franchise is dead as well)? Motomu Toriyama is officially worst than Paul Anderson!!
- Gets worst, Toriyama has stated that Lighting is the first strong female character in any Final Fantasy which ignores dozens of better written female characters, some he himself has written, the "strong" meaning just physical does't work either since FF7's Tifa (a game he worked on btw) can punch tanks to death.
- Lisa Simpson. Lisa is to The Simpsons what Brian is to Family Guy; a mouthpiece for the creator of the show. She is the only person in Springfield consistently portrayed to be intelligent and is never allowed to be completely wrong. Two of the biggest examples were single-handedly persuading the IOC to hold the Olympics (THE OLYMPICS!) in Springfield, and she was once deferred to over STEPHEN HAWKING (who is famous for being one of the world's smartest people irl). In over 300 episodes there have been very few episodes where she has done something wrong, and she has never been punished for any of those things. Matt (not this one though, ironically, they share the same first name) even admitted that Lisa is his favorite character, and that he would do anything to prevent her from looking bad.
- Magneto has the INSANE potential to become this when crappy writers start taking his sympathetic traits too far ("Hey guys let's make Magneto a member of the X-Men and have him date Rogue!") Hell, he sometimes becomes this even when he's a horribly despicable villain. Jeph Loeb's raping of the Ultimate Universe known as "Ultimatum" has him use his magnetic powers to nearly destroy the world just by waving his hands at Earth's magnetic poles (completely breaking the laws of physics in the process) than effortlessly take on half the X-Men and almost all of the Ultimates singlehanded and nearly win.
- Maka from the Soul Eater anime series (not the original manga). The fucktards at Bonez though it was a good idea to do the same thing they had done with Full Metal Alchemist, changing the storyline for the anime series, making Maka possessed weapon soul when fighting Kishin, even finish off Kishin with a single punch of courage bullshit. Such a damn shame since the series animation was so well done though she only becomes a Sue at that last scene since the studio was forced to crap out a half-assed ending.
- Many famous comic book superheroes under the wrong writer, Batman and Wolverine probably being the worst offenders.
- The Mandalorians in the Star Wars Expanded Universe, depending whose writing them. While good under the correct writers, under some of the bad ones (Hint, it involves Karen fucking Traviss), they compete with badly written expanded universe Jedi and Sith for the position of Star Wars' Ultrasmurfs. In the expanded universe ALL mandos are elite warrior mercenaries, skilled enough to take out armed enemies with their bare hands and usually packing enough fire power to level a building. They're so badass in fact that they're known to hunt Jedi for fucking sport because they're the only thing that'll give'm a real challenge. Experienced jedi hunters can be good enough to fight them head on despite all their force powers and saber swinging because they have the right gear and experience to counter it. Bear in mind that Mandos do not use the force in anyway. Karen Traviss also writes them with the Mary Sue trait of always being right and people agreeing with them for things they call the Jedi out for that they didn't even do, like create the clone army.
- The most famous Mandalorian, Boba Fett, generally avoids becoming this trope and is just a plain badass (as a bonus he rarely if ever engages in the dick-stroking egomania of Traviss's Mandies), but under bad writers his badassitude can push into this. His father Jango Fett follows this same idea; in fact his origin story partly involves his old merc group of Mandalorians getting slaughtered by a group of Jedi in a moment that reads sort of like "fuck you Karen Traviss".
- Marneus Calgar, especially post-Ward.
- Masaru Daimon from Digimon Savers: he's basically Kratos as Anime character and he's probably the only Human character from Digimon that got his/her OBDwiki Character profile.
- Master Chief is definitely one, he has Ward-grade plot armour. Seriously, it was repeated throughout the games that he was born with the word LUCK.
- Captain Matthias Ward, I am the better Mary-Sue.
- Med'an from World of Warcrack. Part-Human, part-Orc and part-Draenei, inheritor of the greatest level of power among Azeroth's mages, even beyond (-)any(-) High Elf mage. Also related to several lore characters in one way or another.
- Mordenkainen (Gary Gygax's personal avatar in the Greyhawk setting and a level 30 wizard who never fucking ages past 50 despite being a hundred fucking years old without turning into a lich, he became bald for some reason, which makes him look evil, but he remains stupid neutral).
- Most of the villains in Old World of Darkness. The writers didn't even try to hide that they favored them over the players.
- Mister Popo in Dragon Ball Z Abridged, though he's that on purpose.
- Nozomi, Bleach filler character
- All Na'vi
- Nui Harime from Kill La Kill seems to be a complete parody of this. She has almost all of the typical Mary Sue traits (pretty and cute, steals the show from other characters, is insanely overpowered, etc.) except that they're played for horror and she's portrayed as a complete sociopath who is convinced that hate and love are the same thing and only gets away with her behavior because her high-ranking mother lets her do whatever she wants. This does not make her any less annoying, though she's treated as an obnoxious freak in-universe as well.
- Well, turns out her heart is made out of life-fiber like Ryuko, which is why she is so powerful. So basically LIFE-FIBER, son.
- Optimus Prime. not like we care, he's still awesome as fuck.
- Ozymandias, AKA, Adrian Alexander Veidt from Watchmen. Born into a wealthy family (then threw it all away and earned even more money), perfect athlete, good-looking, smartest man in the world (He mind fucked Dr. Manhattan, a blueish godlike superhuman), and a vegetarian. The only downside he had is lonely, since he had betrayed all his friends, killed his only sole companion in his lfe: A fucking genetically-engineered female lynx name Bubastis, by having her bait Dr. Manhatten to the incinerator and killed them both with a switch. Still, Ozymandias is perfect because mary sue don't need friends. It was also portrayed that his "common enemy" scheme to stop World War 3 (which involved killing millions) in a positive or at least sympathetic light. He also grabbed the bullet fired by Silk Spectre. Interesting to note that he the idol he worships: Alexander of Macedonia, is a man born before Christ, and the name Ozymandias is reference to a freaking Egyptian pharaoh: Ramesses II, proving that Adrian is just as egoistic as Dante and the Ultramarines by have the name of an ancient ruler as his own nickname. Hell, his color page on "before the watchman" made him looked like some sort of floating Jesus!!
- The Primarchs
and their daughters.THOSE WORDS ARE BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!! /tg/ can only create perfection! - Revan - KotOR. Classic Star Wars mary sue, but done in such a way that we still think he's awesome, achieved way more than nearly any other SW character ever did: single-handedly won the Mandalorian wars (according to Canderous Ordo), then became the Dark Lord of Sith, then very nearly defeated the Republic in such a way to not leave it a smouldering ruin, then suffered cliche amnesia and still managed to remaster the force going from padawan to jedi master in a couple of weeks and then won the Jedi Civil War, THEN got his memories back and managed to combine his Jedi/Sith powers enough to not give a fuck about anything. Was said to be one of the best lightsaber duelists ever, a champion swoop racer, and capable of manufacturing awesome (see HK-47) droids. The only person he couldn't defeat was the Sith Emperor of the time who had absorbed the force energies of entire planets, yet STILL managed to keep him at bay mentally for 400 years until SWTOR.
- Rhonin, archmage of the Kirin Tor, World of Warcrap. Richard Knaak is Blizzard Entertainment's Matt Ward, and Rhonin is Knaak's Kaldor Draigo. He makes up a new member of the famous Windrunner family just so Rhonin can boast being connected to these legendary elves in Warcraft. They have half-elf kids who are blessed by dragons despite the fact they've done nothing to earn it (the player characters have done more, but they don't get anything like that; just a few trinkets that will be rendered obsolete by the next expansion). Even the name Rhonin is just the title "Rōnin" (referring to a Samurai with no master during Japan's feudal period) with a few changes to anglicize the name (and, of course, the character doesn't even look Japanese). He gets sent back in time to partake in the first fight against the Burning Leigon for no other reason than Knaak wanted Rhonin to be there. He does practically nothing in the game, yet everyone says he's a great hero; even then, he didn't do half the things they praise him for.
- Richard, from the Sword of Truth series (he's not as bad in the TV series). He is always considered an ideal hero despite being cruel, sociopathic and thinking that the universe should bend over backwards for him (which it actually does). Everyone who disagrees with him is evil (even if that's the only reason they're considered a villain) or turns evil. Gratuitous rape is thrown in by the author as a cheap way to make him look better (making villains as reprehensible as possible doesn't solve the problem of the protagonist being completely un-heroic).
- Richard B. Riddick, from the Riddick universe. Vin Diesel's personal self-insert. Didn't start out as a Mary Sue though, going from a sensible power level (where a fist-fight with a morphine-addicted merc is reasonably fair) and dubious morality that you just had to love. Later becoming (particularly amongst the directors cuts) a superpowered badass who can singlehandedly take on squads of soldiers with a knife, resist soul sucking, commune with animals and make threats with Just as Planned modes of killing. ("kill you with my teacup" / "dead in 5 seconds"), oh... he can also explode as shown in the directors cuts and off-screen in the video games. His later portayals also shows his morality become a "told you so" mentality, where when people die its really because they are the assholes and nothing to do with Riddick.
- Selene, from the 'Underworld' movies. Throughout the series, she bears several similarities to Alice; both are experts with weapons, both have superior biology to their respective species (humans for Alice, Vampires for Selene), both kill their way through swarms of enemies without getting a scratch, both have little regard for their source material, and both are played by the wives of the directors of their respective film series.
- Shuzo, from one piece filler arc "Z's ambition". A incredibly boring character (despite being one of the Longarm Tribe) with no interesting traits other than owning a cannon who has ate cannon cannon fruit or someshit. He also manage to over power Luffy despite his 2 year time-skip training. Of course Oda didn't intended this since this is an anime filler arc in order to promote the movie Z. Damn Toei is retarded.
- Sith from Star Wars EU will also tend to jump around on the Mary Sue meter, ranging from them dying by the dozen to being walking pillars of RAGE, especially if it's that faggot Sith Emperor from TOR, whose so bullshit powerful the guy you kill in the storyline is just one of his vessels. What a dick. Those sith who don't die like red shirts, are usually so powerful that the only reason the good guys ever win is that they inevitably turn against each other, allowing them to win. As with Jedi, not all Sith are Mary Sues but all have the potential to become ones. A notable case of a "Mary Sith" was Darth Bane. Starting out a miner on a back water planet he joined the Sith army where his force abilities were discovered, and after training for a few months and learning from a holocron became an unstoppable sith who destroyed the existing sith and laid the ground work for the eventual destruction of the Jedi.
- Slade from Teen Titans cartoon
- Sonichu, made by you-know-who.
- Space Marines of the Imperium in Warhammer40K (especially under certain writers). You know it's true. However, there are some exceptions who are awesome enough to get a pass. The reasons: just look at the favoritism they get from Games Workshop in both the fluff and the crunch (They always either win or get the "moral victory", they're the easiest army to use, they're updated the most, etc...) as well their Power Armors are often the whole reason Lasguns are useless in 41st millennium.
- Squirrel Girl from Marvel Comics. Played entirely for laughs: Doreen Grey is a Mutant teenage girl with Spider-Man levels of strength/speed/agility, can grow bone knuckles, can talk to squirrels (and have them do her bidding) and has the ability to defeat any villain she wants off-screen. This includes big-name villains like Doctor Doom (she beat him in his first appearance and several times afterwards), Ego the Living Planet (who is, like his name suggests a planet, meaning that a teenage girl beat up a planet), Thanos (who is one of the biggest badasses of the Marvel universe, but the writers saved his face by replacing him in this instance with a perfect copy of him), Deadpool (whom she calls the mean, mean man; he's actually scared of her), M.O.D.O.K. and tons of other people. She was once part of a C-list superhero team, but quit because she thought she was holding them back (which she was entirely correct about: she once apologized to them for being late because she had to beat a 100' space dragon) and left for Marvel's Nexus of the Multiverse: New York. Despite her unapologetic Mary Sue-ness the fans love her and see her as the one spot of light in the otherwise relentlessly grimdark Marvel Universe.
- Starkiller, AKA Galen Marek, the MC of the Force Unleashed Star Wars game. Mastered the Dark Side, mastered the Light Side, finished off the Jedi, defeated Vader, defeated the Emperor, met Yoda, rescued Leia, formed the Alliance, even used his bullshit cheesy force power to bring down a Star Destroyer. Give me a break.
- Superman. He is morally perfect, one of the strongest beings in the DC universe, and his one weakness that's supposed to kill him never works ex: he lifts an entire continent of kryptonite after being stabbed by a dagger made of it. The only way to nerf him is to have Batman beside him, because Superman always becomes a dumbass when Batman is around (go watch DCAU Justice League to see for yourself).
- Sylar from Heroes: since he's based on Hannibal Lecter after all(other than his cannibalism are debunked in favor of his compulsory overeating and the fact that he can gets people superpowers). He keeps switching between good and evil, yet the heroes still trust him.
- Tauriel; Peter Jackson's special snowflake from The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (a Mary Sue in something related to Tolkien; note Beren and Luthien are deep and well-written enough to get a pass, this is a sad day). Not content with pissing on the established characters and story from the book (ie; the Barrel-escape from Thranduil's castle is changed, Smaug is much less intelligent than he is in the book...), Peter also adds unnecessary and over-the-top new characters. Tauriel's ridiculously skilled at fighting (even for an elf) and has healing powers. According to all of Tolkien's books, only a select few elves can heal people such as Lord Elrond Half-Elven, wielder of one of the three Elven Rings of Power and a direct descendant of the Kings of the Noldor; all things which Tauriel lacks. In addition; she's ship-teased with canon-characters Legolas (who never appears, or even gets mentioned, in the book) and the dwarf Kili.
- Thrall, an Orc raised in a human internment camp, became Azeroth's premiere shaman and leader of half the world. World of Warcramps. Even people that were fans of him during Warcraft III have started to get sick of him.
- The Unholy, a half-crow cowgirl in Vampire: The Requiem
- Uriel Ventris - despite initially coming off as a subversion of Wardian Ultramarines-are-the-best Mary Sue bullshit, he quickly devolves into Ultramarines are the worst unless they use the Codex to wipe their asses and act like Space Wolves - which is pretty much limited to - guess who? - McNeill's OC-Do-Not-Steal Special Snowflake Ventris.
- Varian Wrynn, King of Stormwind and leader of the alliance, from World of Warcock, is showing signs of becoming one. The signs are, first, his flaws are disappearing (or being blamed on a split personality) Other, more established, canon characters are being developed for the worse (such as Jaina and Tyrande. NOTE; they're also two of Warcraft's few major female characters) to try and make him look better. He's chosen as a champion of a powerful demigod even though there are many other better candidates such as MOST Night Elves. Finally, even though he's been a racist warmonger almost as much as Garrosh (who's set to be the final boss of the latest expansion) there are no signs that he'll be called out or face any negative consequences for this.
- Vriska Serket from Homestuck is an interesting example in that she's not a Mary Sue but she's actively trying to be one or thinks that she is. She min-maxes, exploits time travel to retroactively make herself critical to the origin of one of the villains (thus making her important), and tries to make everyone pay attention to her above everything else. This ends up causing almost all of the other characters to hate her (even John, who starts out liking her, quickly tires of her behavior once he meets her in person). The comic takes plenty of time to explore upon the idea of a Mary Sue and just how fucked up you would have to be to be one. The amount of focus she gets and the amount that she gets away with (before and after her death), send her back into Mary Sue territory, making it all very meta... or stupid.
- Wesley Crusher. Originating from the same franchise as the original Mary Sue, Wesley is a very young ensign training to be an officer in star fleet, where he's earned the admiration of many of the bridge officers. He became something of a protege to Captain Picard, who was impressed by Wesley after he showed that he had learned all the controls at the captain's chair when they first met.
While not morally perfect or incorruptible Wesley is as close as he can be in most casesHe's only moral by Gene Roddenberry's standards (which were messed up beyond belief, the man thought it was okay to rant about women but not for children to grieve over dead loved ones, seriously we're not making that up), by a normal person's, he's smug and ego-centric, along with his Dues Ex Machina techno skills, which are shown off by making the rest of the crew look useless. He notably also gets the Enterprise into danger before getting it out of it, and never gets called out for it. Many people thought that he was an insufferable little shit, amongst them Wil Wheaton (the actor who PLAYED the guy). - Any White Wolf employee that shows up at a Vampire LARP session is automatically playing a millennia-old demigod vamp. (I wish I was exaggerating; they've waded into living-city LARP games as antediluvians and permanently killed people's Camarilla characters.) Since these are (literally) self-inserts by the publishers, it makes them Canon Sues.
- Young main characters in crappy Japanese animes and manga.
- Judging from the rest of the list, any character you don't like.
(More to be added later (sounds of crying editors))