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The Tarrasque's 1400 hit points, 43 AC and Resist 10 to "all damage" means that normal human militia won't put a dent in its carapace. Human militia will be made mostly of lvl 3 soldiers [MM, pg162] with +9 vs. AC... you'd need NPCs at level 23 or so to get the +27 vs. AC attacks for a 25% chance to hit. Furthermore, you'll need Artillery or Controller types with powers than have at least "range 10" to reach out 20 squares, because the 1d10 damage from a longbow will never pierce a Tarrasque's carapace. A pair of Efreet Cinderlords [MM, pg 98] might do if you can find horses big enough: lvl 23 artillery, at-will ranged attack +28 vs AC at range 10 pr +26 vs AC at 20 squares to do 2d6+8 damage. Assuming the tarrasque doesn't get bored, the cinderlords will hit 20% of the time, doing an average of 15 points of damage 15% of the time, or rolling [[d20|nat 20]] for max damage of 20 points 5% of the time -- after Resist 10 that's 5 and 10, or an average of 1.25 points per efreet cinderlord per round. We can assume one cinderlord will always be double-moving, as the tarrasque will keep chasing (because if it was smart enough to stop chasing, it would just burrow and escape). At 1.25 average points of damage per round, it would take one thousand, one hundred and thirty-six combat rounds to get it down to 0 (when it sinks into the Earth and goes back to sleep). Since a round is "about 6 seconds" [PH, pg 266], that would take '''1.9 hours''' of constant horseback riding and fire efreets going "pew-pew!" Even if you were using bows, carrying over one thousand arrows on horseback is less believable than the 10' pole and 50' of hemp rope you always have in your backpack. | The Tarrasque's 1400 hit points, 43 AC and Resist 10 to "all damage" means that normal human militia won't put a dent in its carapace. Human militia will be made mostly of lvl 3 soldiers [MM, pg162] with +9 vs. AC... you'd need NPCs at level 23 or so to get the +27 vs. AC attacks for a 25% chance to hit. Furthermore, you'll need Artillery or Controller types with powers than have at least "range 10" to reach out 20 squares, because the 1d10 damage from a longbow will never pierce a Tarrasque's carapace. A pair of Efreet Cinderlords [MM, pg 98] might do if you can find horses big enough: lvl 23 artillery, at-will ranged attack +28 vs AC at range 10 pr +26 vs AC at 20 squares to do 2d6+8 damage. Assuming the tarrasque doesn't get bored, the cinderlords will hit 20% of the time, doing an average of 15 points of damage 15% of the time, or rolling [[d20|nat 20]] for max damage of 20 points 5% of the time -- after Resist 10 that's 5 and 10, or an average of 1.25 points per efreet cinderlord per round. We can assume one cinderlord will always be double-moving, as the tarrasque will keep chasing (because if it was smart enough to stop chasing, it would just burrow and escape). At 1.25 average points of damage per round, it would take one thousand, one hundred and thirty-six combat rounds to get it down to 0 (when it sinks into the Earth and goes back to sleep). Since a round is "about 6 seconds" [PH, pg 266], that would take '''1.9 hours''' of constant horseback riding and fire efreets going "pew-pew!" Even if you were using bows, carrying over one thousand arrows on horseback is less believable than the 10' pole and 50' of hemp rope you always have in your backpack. | ||
On the other hand, if you don't make lots of ridiculous assumptions, it's not nearly so bad and you hardly need high level characters to do it, just a few low levels. If you give the NPCS +1 javelins and horses (not exactly expensive in 4e terms, less than what a level 2 character would have in wealth by level guidelines), and give them stats like other NPCS have (for example, a level 1 goblin has dexterity of 17), it would only take a matter of hours and not require arrows at all, especially if this "destroyer of armies" has to deal with a dozen or so defenders. So in other words, yes, a handful of mounted | On the other hand, if you don't make lots of ridiculous assumptions, it's not nearly so bad and you hardly need high level characters to do it, just a few low levels. If you give the NPCS +1 javelins and horses (not exactly expensive in 4e terms, less than what a level 2 character would have in wealth by level guidelines), and give them stats like other NPCS have (for example, a level 1 goblin has dexterity of 17), it would only take a matter of hours and not require arrows at all, especially if this "destroyer of armies" has to deal with a dozen or so defenders. So in other words, yes, a handful of mounted scrubs can eventually kill a 4E Tarrasque in under 10 hours. | ||
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The Tarrasque is a pure fucking engine of destruction. Dreaded by adventurers for its high hp value and its obscenely high regeneration ability, it is known to rampage across nations eating everything. It cannot fully be killed through normal means; therefore, A player (or group) lucky enough to reduce a Tarrasque to negative 30 hp will then have to use a wish or miracle spell to completely destroy it, with only a 50% chance of success. if unsuccessful it will wake up again x years later and fuck more shit up. Also, no matter how big your army is (assuming your adventuring party had enough cash to recruit mercenaries), the Tarrasque's fast metabolism will allow him to produce such powerful flatulence that all your troops will die by suffocation in just one turn.
According to some, however, the Tarrasque is actually a pretty swell guy.
tl;dr
WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY? YOU CAN FLY? YOU THINK YOU'RE SAFE NOW? THE TARRASQUE HAS ONE THING TO SAY!
BRING IT.
(3.5) How to Kill A Tarrasque in 20 Easy Levels
First, the feats for each level (and source book if it's not the PH):
- Human extra feat: Power Attack
- Fighter 1: Combat Reflexes, Weapon Focus: Greatsword
- Fighter 2: Improved Bull Rush
- Fighter 3: Mage Slayer
- Fighter 4: Weapon Specialization: Greatsword
- Fighter 6: Leap Attack (Complete Adventurer), Shock Trooper (Complete Warrior)
- Fighter 8: Blind-Fight
- Fighter 9: Pierce Magical Concealment (Complete Arcane)
- Fighter 10: Melee Weapon Mastery: Slashing (Player's Handbook II)
- Fighter 12: Greater Weapon Focus: Gretsword, Pierce Magical Protection (Complete Arcane)
- Fighter 14: Greater Weapon Specialization: Greatsword
- Fighter 15: Martial Study: Tiger Claw: Claw at the Moon (Tome of Battle)
- Fighter 16: Martial Study: Tiger Claw: Sudden Leap (Tome of Battle)
- Fighter 18: Martial Study: Tiger Claw: Pouncing Charge (Tome of Battle), Weapon Supremacy: Greatsword (Player's Handbook II)
- Fighter 20: Improved Initiative
Key Equipment:
- +5 Speed, Valorous (Unapproachable East), Adamantine Greatsword: 166,050 gp, provides an extra attack at your highest attack bonus when making a full attack, and deals double damage on all charge attacks
- +1 Soulfire (Book of Exalted Deeds), Heavy Fortification, Mithral Armor: 100,000 gp + the cost of the mithral armor, provides immunity to critical hits, death effects, and negative energy effects
- Manual of Gainful Exercise +5: 137,500 gp, provides a +5 inherent bonus to Strength
- Belt of Giant Strength +6: 36,000 gp, provides a +6 enhancement bonus to Strength
- Ring of Freedom of Movement: 40,000 gp, provides immunity to grappling and movement impedances
- Ring of Mental Protection (Player's Handbook II): 110,000 gp, provides immunity to mind-affecting effects
- Mask of True Seeing (Unapproachable East): 75,000 gp, provides continuous True Sight
Strength:
- 18 base from point-buy
- +5 from level ups
- +5 inherent bonus from Manual of Gainful Exercise
- +6 enhancement bonus from Belt of Giant Strength
Total Strength: 34, with a Strength modifier of +12
Attack bonus with +5 greatsword when charging:
- 20 Base
- +12 Strength bonus
- +1 Weapon Focus
- +1 Greater Weapon Focus
- +2 Melee Weapon Mastery
- +5 enhancement bonus from magic weapon
- +2 charging
Total attack bonus when charging: +43
Damage with +5 greatsword:
- 2d6 base damage
- +18 Strength bonus and a half
- +2 Weapon Specialization
- +2 Greater Weapon Specialization
- +2 Melee Weapon Mastery
- +5 enhancement bonus from magic weapon
Total damage: 2d6+29
So, you're a Human Fighter 20, standing 60 feet away from the death machine that is the Tarrasque. This is the moment of ultimate truth. If you lose initiative, you're supremely and irrevocably fucked, since although you can survive a charge of the Tarrasque, you probably won't be able to survive the AoOs from repositioning you. If you wins initiative though, with the help of some initiative-boosting items I forgot to list down then it's game time.
You spend a full-round action using your Pouncing Charge manoeuvre, which lets you charge and make a full attack at the end of it, while getting the +2 bonus to attack rolls on all your attacks. As part of your charge, you make a Jump check (easy enough with your ranks and Strength bonus) to activate Leap Attack, as you Power Attack for your full Base Attack Bonus, transforming the attack penalty into an AC penalty using Shock Trooper. So, you're making a full attack at +80 damage on each hit, at the cost of -20 AC and then another -2 AC from charging. Now, at this point, the damage on each of your attacks would normally be 2d6+109 (average 116) from your Leap Attacking shenanigans. However, your Valorous weapon makes you deal double damage on any and all charge attacks, shooting it up to a ludicrous 4d6+218 (average 232). This isn't including critical hits, but we won't be needing them, and they're a pain to calculate in 3.5 anyway.
So then, as you charge past the Tarrasque's threatened squares, it takes an AoO against you, using its bite. It damages you some, but it won't be able to score a crit thanks to your Heavy Fortification armour, and your Ring of Freedom of movement prevents a grapple and a swallow. You then make five attacks, at +43/+43/+37/+32/+27. The Tarrasque has "only" 35 AC. The first three only miss on a natural one, giving them a 95% hit chance. For the fourth one, you activate your +5 bonus from Weapon Supremacy, shooting it up to +37, and thus giving that one a 95% hit chance as well. The fifth and final attack is where you take 10, also using Weapon Supremacy, to make it automatically hit. So then, four attacks at a 95% hit chance, and one attack automatically hitting. 0.95 * 4 + 1 = 4.8.
4.8 * average 232 damage on each hit = average 1,113.6 damage in total. The Tarrasque has damage reduction 15/epic, however, subtracting a total of 75 damage from five hits, but that's still an amazing 1,038.6 damage inflicted on the Tarrasque's hit point total of 858 anyway. At this point, the Tarrasque should be down to -180 or -181 hit points, meaning it will be back in action in 5 rounds, and that's why I hope you've got a means to cast Wish right then and there.
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(3.5) How to Defeat The Tarrasque in 3 Easy Levels
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- No particular feats required.
- No particular items required.
- Be a wizard of level 3.
- Put on your robe and wizard hat.
- Cast Command Undead on an Allip (it's a CR 3 monster, if you can't find any just learn to cast Summon Undead.)
- Cast Silent Image in front of the Tarrasque or Invisibility on yourself.
- Have the Allip attack it. Every hit will take off 3 wisdom on average with no saving throw, and the Tarrasque has an abysmal touch AC, with no way to hit incorporeal targets.
- Once at 0 wisdom, it'll be unconscious for 24 hours. Cast Unseen Servant and have it shovel dirt into the nasal passages and lungs of the disabled Tarrasque so it can't breathe.
- Per the MM, regeneration does not restore HP lost from suffocation, so it will be permanently at negative hit points, at least until some retard unpacks the dirt from its sinuses.
- Congratulations! For defeating the Tarrasque, you're now a level 4 wizard, with 1 XP away from level 5.
- For added hilarity, take the Precocious Apprentice feat and with some lucky rolls do this at level 1.
(4E) How to defeat the Tarrasque
- Alt Titles
- "How to defeat the 4e Tarrasque if you have a couple of hours."
- "How to defeat the 4E Tarrasque even if you don't have lvl 28 epic PCs"
You only need two guys, two horses (speed 10) [MM, pg159], and two weapons better than longbows (range 20 dam 1d10) [PH, pg219], or the guys could have a dexterity above 11 (and since player characters can pick an 18 for a stat if they want... but let's assume we're using NPCs, and not even NPCS with decent stats or equipment in the PHB, although this makes no sense). The two guys don't even need the Mounted Combat feat [PH, pg199] since that only gives access to a mount's special abilities and lets the mount use the rider's Athletics skill; anyone can do a normal, a move & a minor action from horseback, the only penalty is -2 to attack/AC/Reflex if you don't have a saddle [DMG, pg46]. The Tarrasque will never catch up (speed 8, attacks have a range at most of 3). The mounted guys just have to keep the Tarrasque at 20 squares away and keep flinging arrows -- if the Tarrasque tries to close in at melee, it will move 16 with only a minor action left (to drink a potion or load a crossbow LAWL). The closer dude will use his initiative to double-move away up to 20 squares, while the other guy can move action at 10 squares and fire at long range (-2 to hit, up to double aforementioned ranges).
The Tarrasque's 1400 hit points, 43 AC and Resist 10 to "all damage" means that normal human militia won't put a dent in its carapace. Human militia will be made mostly of lvl 3 soldiers [MM, pg162] with +9 vs. AC... you'd need NPCs at level 23 or so to get the +27 vs. AC attacks for a 25% chance to hit. Furthermore, you'll need Artillery or Controller types with powers than have at least "range 10" to reach out 20 squares, because the 1d10 damage from a longbow will never pierce a Tarrasque's carapace. A pair of Efreet Cinderlords [MM, pg 98] might do if you can find horses big enough: lvl 23 artillery, at-will ranged attack +28 vs AC at range 10 pr +26 vs AC at 20 squares to do 2d6+8 damage. Assuming the tarrasque doesn't get bored, the cinderlords will hit 20% of the time, doing an average of 15 points of damage 15% of the time, or rolling nat 20 for max damage of 20 points 5% of the time -- after Resist 10 that's 5 and 10, or an average of 1.25 points per efreet cinderlord per round. We can assume one cinderlord will always be double-moving, as the tarrasque will keep chasing (because if it was smart enough to stop chasing, it would just burrow and escape). At 1.25 average points of damage per round, it would take one thousand, one hundred and thirty-six combat rounds to get it down to 0 (when it sinks into the Earth and goes back to sleep). Since a round is "about 6 seconds" [PH, pg 266], that would take 1.9 hours of constant horseback riding and fire efreets going "pew-pew!" Even if you were using bows, carrying over one thousand arrows on horseback is less believable than the 10' pole and 50' of hemp rope you always have in your backpack.
On the other hand, if you don't make lots of ridiculous assumptions, it's not nearly so bad and you hardly need high level characters to do it, just a few low levels. If you give the NPCS +1 javelins and horses (not exactly expensive in 4e terms, less than what a level 2 character would have in wealth by level guidelines), and give them stats like other NPCS have (for example, a level 1 goblin has dexterity of 17), it would only take a matter of hours and not require arrows at all, especially if this "destroyer of armies" has to deal with a dozen or so defenders. So in other words, yes, a handful of mounted scrubs can eventually kill a 4E Tarrasque in under 10 hours.
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