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{{cleanup}}'''The Hobbit''' is a popular book by [[J. R. R. Tolkien]], although it is perhaps better known in the mainstream thanks to the trilogy of movies by Peter Jackson based on Tolkien's following trilogy of books (really, it only gets worse the more you think about it).
'''THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE''' ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are ''not'' official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).


A little known fact is that this is the book that started it all; 20th Century Western [[High Fantasy]], [[Dungeons & Dragons]], the works. It even inspired some [[Dark Fantasy]] as people saw what Tolkien wrote and were both inspired and wanted to do something different; [[Michael Moorcock]] and his [[Eternal Champion]] novels, [[The Witcher]],[[ A Song of Ice and Fire]]/Game of Thrones...  
They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.


Tolkien originally wrote this book as a bedtime story for his children. One day, Tolkien's buddy C. S. Lewis ([[C. S. Lewis|yes, THAT C. S. Lewis]]) found out about, read it and said that he should publish it. Tolkien did so, and the book's growing success was part of the reason he expanded on this setting and wrote ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' books, the codifier for '''damn-near''' every high fantasy setting that has come after.
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The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.


==The Plot==
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The story follows the tale of Bilbo Baggins (the [[hobbit]] of the title) as he joins a band of dwarves in their quest to find a legendary treasure in their ancient lost city, which their forefathers were driven out of by Smaug, a great and terrible dragon who is the terror of the lands. This journey sets off a train of events which would eventually lead to Tolkien's most famous work, the Lord of the Rings trilogy, with Bilbo finding the One Ring and returning with it to the Shire, [[Sauron]] in his guise of the Necromancer being driven out of the Mirkwood and left for his true lair in Mordor, and many of the characters in the Hobbit that would go on to be in LotR undergoing significant personal growth and changes.
The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't!  They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.


==The Films==
In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.
It was not surprising, considering how popular the ''Lord of the Rings'' trilogy was, that at some point the entire series would be made into a film. As the work on it commenced, it was announced that the Hobbit would be split into a two-part movie, which surprised many, but they went with it. The first act of the book moves at a breakneck pace anyways, and some much-needed characterization for our dwarf party would be a welcome addition. It was when it was revealed it would be a trilogy itself that cries of the fanbase rang through the air. Across the community, people complained about the film execs ignoring the book's anti-greed moral, along with jokes about the producers and the film studio execs comparing them to the Dwarves and even the dragon.


The first movie featured an awful amount of walking and future plot building. It had a few redeemable features, such as the spot-on portrayal of Bilbo and kickass glimpses of Smaug in the prologue and epilogue. We also get to see a nobler side of Thorin Oakenshield to contrast against his later gold-crazed state by the third act of the book. The aesthetics for Erebor were also quite nice, as we finally get to see a proper dwarf realm portrayed in the setting.
== HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES ==
Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.


The second movie ramped things up, although it had frankly hilarious and/or stupid scenes. For the former was Orlando Bloom (Legolas) doing his best Eldar Harlequin impressions through long scenes of acrobatic juggles and jumps that just made the orcs seem utterly pathetic. There were rounds of applause for his displays in the cinemas, for Emperor's sake. Bard the bowman shows up, but because Legolas is our designated super-special-awesome archer he's been redesignated as "Bard the boatman." Somewhat fitting since he does smuggle the dwarves in by boat in the book, but it still underlies how downplayed he is (in the books he was a pessimistic but noble-hearted Captain of the Guard). Later, Smaug the dragon was awesome, despite being a wyvern unlike in the book [[Retcon|or the original release of the first movie]], until the stupid kicked in when the Dwarves and Bilbo ran rings around him without dying in the process. (In the book all the Dwarves were terrified of Smaug and never even entered his line of sight because "Nothing can escape Smaug once he sees it." The filmmakers also forgot/ignored how heat works.)
* GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
* GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)  
* GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
* GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN


Like with the LotR trilogy, the first two movies are building up for a nice big epic battle in the third installment.
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Sadly it was shit, as the third movie stank monkey balls, featuring more Legolas bullshit, random giant earth worms, protagonist plot armor so thick a black arrow couldn't pierce it, even more CGI and the dwarf elf (so-called) romance going nowhere with Kili's death (which is obvious in hindsight since he dies in the book which, remember, has been out for decades before most of us were born). The dwarves in this movie were also a lot cheesier than in the first one, what with them riding goats into battle and Dain sporting what looks like an anemic [[Slayer]] Mohawk (which would otherwise be awesome, but here it clashes something fierce against the more grounded medieval aesthetics of the film). Then we've also got Not!Wormtongue trying to avoid combat by dressing as a woman as he mockingly declares Bard the new king before skulking away from the battle (in the extended edition he falls onto a catapult and gets flung into a troll's mouth before being bitten in half). One wonders what Christopher Tolkien thinks of this rehash of his dad's work.
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For a more in depth explanation about this (if you have an hour or so to kill) Ms. Ellis has her videos...
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRUQ-RKfUs Part One]
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SILVAGUNNER
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However, there IS the animated Hobbit movie made in 1977 by Rankin/Bass, and while they may have dropped the ball on Return of the King, the Hobbit movie is pretty good. More faithful in a lot of ways to the original book in structure and perhaps tone. Like the original book the Rankin/Bass version is aimed more toward children and you could almost call it a musical with songs adapted from the poems within the book. Smaug is also a better in this adaption, being a lot more smug and witty then the Jackson version, even if his cat like face is a bit derpy. If you feel the more recent hobbit movies where disappointing then look into this one if you can.
 
==Games Workshop wargame adaptation==
[[Games Workshop]] has produced a new version of their [[The Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game|Lord of the Rings miniature game]], titled, to no-one's surprise, The Hobbit (Strategy Battle Game). The game however has failed to shake the very foundations of creation as was intended and for the most part is a cash-in with the very excitable teen boys who are over-bowed by the abilities of acrobatic elves (Thranduil model is fabulous) and wisecracking dwarves from the movie settings. Smaug also got an awesome model but he came with three problems; game-breakingly OP rules (a knock-down rule that works on everything except a Mumak, he can't be knocked down or moved against his will by anything and no courage tests every time he takes a wound... of which he has 20!), the model was too big for any carry case and came at a price that would make even [[Forgeworld]] blush.
 
Use your old models. New "evil" guys are pushovers. Game uses models from Lotr SBG but has changed rules. Monsters were buffed and can now hurl models with low strength value across enemy ranks knock them to the ground and suffer STR 5 hits. Elves seem OP but every elf fgt will cry if you take the Shadow Lord [[Nazgûl]] into your army (6's to hit, come at me bro).
 
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THE GRAND DAD EMPIRE ARE a prolific VINESAUCE-centric MEME group based in BEDROCK CITY. Their largest periods of activity seemed to be around the time SILVAGUNNER was terminated, when they were hosting several unofficial VINESAUCE gaming events (which they assure you repeatedly are not official Tournaments and are in no way affiliated with JOEL).

They operated out of the SilvaGunner YouTube channel until it was terminated in 2014, after which they appear to have transitioned briefly to GiivaSunner in September of 2016 before returning to SilvaGunner in June of 2018.

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The original forums appeared to function as four services: preparation and communication in service of coming events, discussion about new HIGH-QUALITY RIPS, MEME showcase, and general VINESAUCE or unrelated discussion.

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== EVENTS ==

The VINESAUCE MEME events that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE held were known for being diverse and involved, due in large part to their incredibly strong YTP scene. These events would involve VINESAUCE-branded fan-made HIGH-QUALITY RIPS for SONGS that wouldn't exist for nearly a decade, and some that still don't! They also hosted some of the first KING FOR ANOTHER DAY tournaments, with fan HIGH-QUALITY RIPS.

In later years, an event known as GRAND FEST was hosting PREMIERES for GRAND DAD Fantasy, KING FOR ANOTHER DAY, GRANDmachine, HE THICC 69, and MEME Wars, as of 2019.

HIGH-QUALITY RIPS and MEMES

Some HIGH-QUALITY RIPS appear to have seen releases or updates in 5th and 6th edition. Note that The GRAND DAD EMPIRE seem to have been most active between 2012 and 2019.

  • GRAND DAD 2: SPASTIC BOOGALOO
  • GRAND DAD 3: THE GAUNTLET OF ASS (FEATURING SMOL NOZOMI, TITO DICKMAN, SPONGE, HE THICC, and SANS UNDERTALE)
  • GRAND DAD 4: GRAND DAD IS GOD
  • GRAND DAD 5: DEATH TO 1D4CHAN

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