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[[Image:SanguiniusArt5mt.jpg|thumb|400px|Papa Sang, as drawn by a [[Remembrancer]] during the Great Crusade. Looking &#039;&#039;100% FABULOUS&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.|Joseph Campbell}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Was there ever another Guardian so beloved by the people?|Paean to Saint-14, Destiny}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|My good blade carves the casques of men,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;My tough lance thrusteth sure,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;My strength is as the strength of ten,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because my heart is pure.|Sir Galahad, Tennyson}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Great Angel&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Brightest One&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Lord of Baal&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Master of Hosts&#039;&#039;&#039;, (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Papa Sang&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|Fabulous Fucking Hawk-Boy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Space Jesus&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Definitely Not Led Zeppelin&#039;s Robert Plant&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Primarch Fabulous&#039;&#039;&#039; to the people of /tg/), &#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius, Beloved by All&#039;&#039;&#039; was (and that &#039;was&#039; is quite significant) the [[Primarch]] of the [[Blood Angels]] [[Chapter]] (formerly legion) of [[Space Marines]]. He was notable for the fuckhueg angel-like wings (not to be confused with the actual [[the Angel|Angel]]) that &amp;quot;mutated&amp;quot; out of his back during his childhood on his home planet, [[Baal]], as well as his heroic deeds during the [[Great Crusade]]. Unfortunately, Sanguinius was slain by [[Horus]] during his eponymous [[Horus Heresy|Heresy]], though it is widely believed that it was Sanguinius&#039; weakening of the Arch-Traitor which made it possible for the [[Emperor]] to shut Horus&#039;s big, stupid, [[heresy]]-spewing mouth once and for all, and thus save mankind from the clutches of [[Chaos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[FAIL|And for some reason the Black Library likes drawing him with silly hair rolls]]. Though at least his model accurately depicts his FABULOUS flowing hair, second only to the Emperor himself. Cry me a river [[Fulgrim]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Origins==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Warhammer-40000-Sang-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|thumb|A young Sangi rolelplaying his way through Jesus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Like the rest of the Primarchs, Sanguinius was bio-engineered on [[Terra]] to serve as a general in the [[Emperor]]&#039;s armies, and was stolen in his infancy and carried away across the galaxy by daemonic agents of [[Chaos]] in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts to unite humanity. Landing on [[Baal]], he was found by the Folk of the Blood, a local tribe who raised him to manhood. They were going to kill him for being a mutant, but when it became clear that Sanguinius was a badass warrior-prodigy the likes of which they&#039;d never seen, they decided he was worth keeping. After all, Sanguinius was actually a pretty nice guy for [[Warhammer 40,000|40k]], and he was pretty handy at fighting off those other mutants that kept attacking them from Baal&#039;s radioactive deserts, which he could walk through without any protection. As such, Sanguinius quickly ascended as a leader among the tribes of Baal and drove back the hordes of mutants threatening their hold on the world, eventually attaining a near god-like status among the planet&#039;s denizens. &lt;br /&gt;
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After the Emperor found Baal and bade Sanguinius to assume his rightful place among his armies, Sanguinius wept a single tear of joy because he contained the perfect amount of [[Fist of the North Star|manliness]]; in touch with his emotions, but aware that ugly-crying is intolerable. He bowed before the Emperor, and pledged his loyalty in exchange for the Emperor leaving Baal alone. This was both because he wanted to keep the planet as it was for the sake of developing Legion recruits, and because most of the population had insisted on worshiping him. Sanguinius had never encouraged this practice but had known that, as a 10 foot tall Giga-chad with angel wings, the stunted, heavily mutated inhabitants of Baal were going to worship him whether he liked it or not. Obviously Big E frowned rather lethally upon worship, and Sanguinius did not want his people to come to harm. The Emperor agreed, the greatest of Sanguinius&#039; tribal warriors were extended the honor of joining the [[Space Marines|Adeptus Astartes]], and were thereafter implanted with the gene-seed drawn from Sanguinius&#039; genome. These men became the first members of the ninth Space Marine legion to be founded, and the [[Blood Angels]] were born (not from Terra at least).&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:7d9a85e6e4a368bb435e943fc891a25b.jpg|thumbnail|right|250px|Sanguinius (left) and Horus whooping some ass together before [[Erebus|SOMEBODY]] had to go and damn the Imperium to an eternity of [[Grimdark|war, cultural stagnation, paranoia and self destructive behaviour]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Joining the [[Great Crusade]], Sanguinius became best buds with fellow Primarchs [[Horus]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], [[Magnus the Red]], [[Jaghatai Khan]] and [[Rogal Dorn]]. Ironically (and later, tragically), his friendship with Horus is said to have been closer than that of any of the other Primarchs. Which, this being Warhammer, went straight to hell when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. He was easily the most [[Pretty Marines|fabulous]] of all the Emperor&#039;s generals (SUCK IT [[Fulgrim|FULGRIM]]); he wore a glowing, ornate set of golden artificer armor adorned with huge rubies which represented Terra, Baal, and Baal&#039;s moons, and his magnificent white wings would spread behind him as he took to the skies of the battlefield. But Sanguinius&#039;s beauty was not merely skin deep, as Fulgrim&#039;s often was. For instance, the Khan noted during a small family chat that while Sanguinius and Fulgrim were similarly resplendent, Sanguinius was completely at ease in his aspect, where Fulgrim seemed a bit brittle. At the same time, the Great Angel gave the impression that he&#039;d be perfectly willing to cast off his finery, whereas Fulgrim gave the impression that he would rather die. Basically, in Sanguinius&#039; case, [[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] abandoned all pretense of being subtle about the whole &amp;quot;the Emperor is God, the primarchs are the archangels, and Horus is Lucifer&amp;quot; thing—like, to the point that Sanguinius became known simply as &amp;quot;The Angel&amp;quot; among the armies of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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He did some pretty cool shit during the Crusade too, at one point taking on an entire blood-mad Eldar Craftworld with a third of his Legion. Admittedly it was a struggle - the Craftworld fielded  Wraiths in large numbers - and had to deploy the Ordo Sinister psy-Titans after massive Eldar Wraith machines destroyed his Legio Fureans allies, but still, Sanguinius managed to tear the head off one of the walkers. Not a sparkly, feathery man to fuck with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though not first in favor among the Emprah&#039;s Primarchs (that position belonged to Horus, pre-heresy), [[Magnus the Red|or the biggest psychic powerhouse]], [[Roboute Guilliman|or the best at empire-building]], [[Lorgar|or even the one who looked most like Dad]], Sanguinius was said to have the best &#039;&#039;blend&#039;&#039; of the Big E&#039;s attributes (which, considering the fact that space marines are a toned-down version of their primarchs, may imply the Blood Angels are the most similar to the Emperor). While a lot of the Space Marine legions and their generals fought in the Great Crusade just for the sake of glory and a good battle, Sanguinius and his Blood Angels fought for what the Emperor himself did: [[Noblebright|a better galaxy, a peaceful galaxy, one where humanity would be united, happy, and prosperous]]. During the Crusade, the Blood Angels formed a friendly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] legion (yet another relationship the Horus Heresy would royally buttfuck), because both were noted for being assault-oriented shock troops; however, while they were pretty evenly matched in their level of prowess, saddled with the Butcher&#039;s Nails, the World Eaters were straight-up lunatics in combat, whereas the Blood Angels&#039; ferocity was channeled and refined when it needed to be by Sanguinius&#039; wisdom. The World Eaters fury ran hot, where the Blood Angels ran cold. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, everyone loved the guy. Even at the depths of his heresy, even &#039;&#039;Horus&#039;&#039; wished Sanguinius was one of his generals. [[meme|And he was a good guy who doesn&#039;t afraid of anything]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Signus Prime and Ka&#039;Bandha===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Signusianclash.jpg|thumb|left|400px|&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Awesome|If you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguinius who threw you back.]]&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; —Sanguinius, taking a small moment to deliver this line after decapitating a [[Keeper of Secrets]] and [[rip and tear|&amp;quot;relieving&amp;quot;]] [[Khorne]]&#039;s mightiest servant of his wings, and just generally setting the stage for Ka&#039;Bandha&#039;s future [[butthurt]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point during the Great Crusade, Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were tasked by Warmaster Horus with reclaiming the Signus Cluster from a supposed [[xenos]] infestation and liberating the humans there from their oppressors. However, when they arrived, they found that the entire system had been consumed by the evil influence of the [[Chaos Gods]], and specifically a [[Keeper of Secrets]] calling itself Kyriss [[/d/|the Perverse]]. This was actually a trap set by Horus in an attempt to eliminate Sanguinius early on, because he feared him more than any of his other fellow Primarchs as he was nearly his equal in both combat and commanding. In fact, at one point right before his fall to Chaos, Horus actually admitted to a Remembrancer that he thought that Sanguinius should have been named Warmaster instead of him. Also this was after Horus&#039;s corruption and Sanguinius was not aware of the Isstvan conflicts at the time. Long story short, the Blood Angels were stranded in-system, caught off guard, and lost a lot of Marines, ships, and crew, but eventually regrouped and conquered the armies of cultists and Chaos [[daemons]] in the Signus system. Kyriss even manifested on the bridge of the Red Tear, the Blood Angels flagship, from the frames of [[Khorne|eight]] servitors, to taunt Sanguinius. This was also Horus&#039;s first true defeat, as there was no benefit gained from the campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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But a greater threat soon emerged: [[Ka&#039;bandha]], a powerful [[Bloodthirster]] and one of [[Khorne]]&#039;s greatest servants. He attacked the Blood Angels while taunting Sanguinius in the middle of the battle and claimed that Horus had betrayed him. Refusing to believe this, Sanguinius attacked in [[rage]], and managed to stab his sword right into the daemon&#039;s chest and wound him severely. Ka&#039;bandha, almost beaten, distracted the primarch with the truth of horus’s betrayal. Ka&#039;bandha then lashed out with his whip, ensnaring Sanguinius&#039; legs and crushing them. Then, leaving Sanguinius alive for [[Plot armor|some]] [[rage|reason]] (perhaps fearful Sanguinius really would become an angel if he died), then charged off to slay a few hundred Blood Angels. The Red Thirst, already a problem for the Blood Angels, was exacerbated by the psychic shockwaves of each of his sons dying, and Sanguinius vowed that he would take vengeance on Ka&#039;bandha for this atrocity. In the Chaos temple at the centre of the battle, Sanguinius duelled Ka&#039;Bandha again, ripping off a wing and then throwing him off a platform and back through a portal into the realm of Chaos. To top it off, Sanguinius then faced Kyriss and beheaded that sick fuck, promptly ending his rule and Chaos&#039; hold on the system.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a moment of hesitation, Sanguinius was tempted by the offer of becoming a Chaos Champion in exchange for curing the Red Thirst and Black Rage. Seeing this, Meros jumped straight into the portal, telling his Primarch not to give up hope, turning into the Daemon known as the Red Angel (Meros&#039; geneseed would later be transplanted onto Rafen)&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspired by his sacrifice Sanguinius was able to say no to the Daemons. This gave him the courage to resist the temptation of Chaos later on when Madai offered the same deal&lt;br /&gt;
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===During the later Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Blade with whom I have lived, blade with whom I now die,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;serve right and justice one last time, seek one last heart of evil,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;still one last life of pain. Cut well, old friend, and then farewell.|Sir Orin Neville Smythe}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Signus Prime, the majority of the Blood Angels found themselves on the wrong side of the Ruinstorm. Drawn to Macragge by the Pharos, Sanguinius learned that his brothers Guilliman and the Lion were trying to set the beginnings of a second Imperium. Sanguinius reluctantly accepted the premise, and was instated as the Emperor of the Imperium Secundus. Being Emperor didn&#039;t sit easily with him, and much of the day-to-day ruling was done by Guilliman and the Lion. After Curze paid him a nasty visit / scrying competition, the Angel demanded more oversight into the affairs of the new Empire. When Curze was finally captured, all three members of the Imperial Triumvirate realised that Terra had not yet fallen, but that Sanguinius would be doomed to die by Horus&#039;s hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Angel had in truth already foreseen his death at the hands of Horus, and knew what it would mean for his sons. However, he accepted that his sacrifice was necessary to preserve his father&#039;s works in the long run and took solace in the fact that the Blood Angels would continue to follow in his footsteps even as they grappled with the Black Rage. Moreover, via the temptations of chaos he endured with his brothers in the Ruinstorm--he found that the false hope he had been given, namely that he &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; survive the end of the Horus Heresy and even triumph, but learned it would come  with a terrible cost. He would gain power from Chaos and slay Horus and save his sons from the curse to come--as a [[Wat|Greater Daemon of Chaos Undivided]] made mention that Horus had become an imperfect vessel and that papa-Sang was to take his place as the Angel of Ruin. So in a nutshell it&#039;s The Last Temptation of Sanguinius, but with less Willem Dafoe. Naturally space vampire Jesus didn&#039;t take the daemon up on the offer and fought his way through a daemon throng until he pinned the daemon halfway through the materium and the warp. In his mind a last defiant act, choosing to neither be slain by Horus or choose chaos, but to die holding the daemon in between the rift to the warp so his Brother-Primarchs could Orbitally Bombard Davin into dust. Unfortunately through vision he realized that the Black Rage would be inevitable, as the proto-rage had filled him by that point, its origins being explained as the violent hatred and rage at the Betrayal of Horus against him and the Emprah, and the sheer pain of his death, existing in the past and future as it resonated through time--and the grief of the death he hadn&#039;t experienced yet. [[Doctor Who|Timey Wimey bullshit shenanigans]] aside, if the Jesus metaphors weren&#039;t strong enough, [[Sanguinor|Sanguinius&#039; Herald]] stepped up to the plate and planted his sword in the Daemon&#039;s spine and held it there so Sanguinius wouldn&#039;t have to die there. And with that last act the flickers of hope that had died in Sanguinius rekindled and witnessed the miracle of a new Angel coming into being. The Herald was empowered by the warp, glowing a radiant gold with the outline of wings springing from his shoulders as he became in the Primarch&#039;s own words the &amp;quot;Son of my hope&amp;quot;. Explaining the origins of one of the Blood Angel&#039;s specialest of snowflakes, making him a Draigo/Celestine-esque Daemon Prince of Sanguinius. That sound you&#039;re hearing is the noise of every Puritan Inquisitor&#039;s blood-vessels bursting in their eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a positive, because of the Triumvirate of Primarch&#039;s success on Davin the [[Warp Storm|Ruinstorm]] abated revealing a straight shot to Terra, on a negative, Horus had left a massive fleet to protect the way there [[Just As Planned|(how he knew that THAT place would be the way that opened for them is a bit of a mystery)]] and all tactical scenarios concluded that if they tried to engage them simultaneously they would only be mired down so that none of them could reach Terra. So the Primarchs decided to split up, taking a page out of the Codex of Brother Vincentius Lombardius, they would split the defense and rush the goal: Guilliman using the sheer bulk of his larger fleet to engage the traitors while the Lion fell back and attacked the traitor Legion&#039;s homeworlds, burning them with extreme prejudice, while the Blood Angels hung back long enough for Guilliman to break the bulk of the armada and the Lion to draw away and contend with the forces that splintered away as he burnt their homes, giving us a nice tidy bow of exactly where the hell the other primarchs were when shit happened. As Sanguinius corroborated his visions with Curze, he felt that he had come across a revelation - hence the need for his Legion to be the ones to reach Terra. He may have been fated to perish at the hands of Horus, but even if destiny was set, the consequence could be altered. He would fight and die, but his sacrifice would allow the Imperium to persist. He let Curze in on this, letting him in on the razor-thin hope of the future&#039;s mutability; he said he could take the Night Haunter to the Emperor, and that the Big-E could do something Konrad had never thought of exploring: he could forgive him. Just as a spark of hope entered his eyes, Sanguinius promised that he wouldn&#039;t allow that for Curze, that he would freeze Curze in stasis and jettison the pod, preserving him for millennia if necessary, and that Konrad Curze had no fucking chance of outrunning or changing his future death, [[Awesome|terrifying 40k batman so hard he&#039;d probably be locked in an eternity of despair as he&#039;s frozen in stasis.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Good is not nice, indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|thumbnail|right|500px|Unfortunately, this is the image most people know Sanguinius from. (He&#039;s the fabulous dead guy lying on the floor.) This also is the least fabulous image of him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With the help of the [[Dark Angels]] and the [[Ultramarines]], the Blood Angels were able to make it back to [[Terra]] in the closing days of the Horus Heresy to defend it from the traitor legions and their daemonic allies. Sanguinius and his legion led the defense of the Imperial Palace itself when the forces of Chaos closed in around it, and the Primarch slew innumerable daemons, traitors and other assorted scum in the process. Oh, and he also &#039;&#039;soloed a Warlord TITAN&#039;&#039; and then scared off it&#039;s warhound escorts by glaring at them too hard. A little while later, while single handedly defenting the Eternity Gate from the entire Chaos force, Ka&#039;Bandha turned up. The two went at it again rather majestically atop the Eternity Gate to the Emperor&#039;s throne room, where Sanguinius managed to [[Awesome|SNAP KA&#039;BANDHA&#039;S SPINE OVER HIS MOTHERFUCKING KNEE]]. He then hurled the bastard&#039;s corpse back into the throng of Chaos filth below, and the Blood Angels who had died by the Bloodthirster&#039;s hand were thus avenged in the most spectacularly badass of ways. Seeing this, the rest of the Chaos force went [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g fuck this shit I&#039;m out] and ran, while the Loyalists were able to safely close the Eternity Gate. &lt;br /&gt;
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But this is Warhammer 40,000, and [[noblebright]] doesn&#039;t last very long against [[grimdark]], even when it&#039;s badass noblebright. Eventually, the Big E himself, along with Sanguinius, [[Rogal Dorn]], Rogal Dorn&#039;s mustache, and a contingent of their respective Marines, launched a last-ditch assault against Horus, teleporting aboard his [[Battle Barge|battle barge]] and taking the fight to the Warmaster himself. As fighting broke out across the capital ship, Sanguinius got sequestered from the rest of the assault party, and when he found Horus, he was alone. Horus, perhaps out of some small, lingering sense of brotherhood with Sanguinius, offered his former friend, for the final time, a chance to turn to Chaos. But Sanguinius said &#039;&#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhDjz0WAZs&amp;quot;NEVAH!&amp;quot;]&#039;&#039;&#039; and the two Primarchs proceeded to battle for the fate of mankind. Though Sanguinius was one of the most powerful of the Primarchs, he was wounded and wearied from the fight on Terra and already at a disadvantage, and Horus had been granted terrible power by the gods of Chaos to boot (terrible indeed, because he apparently wasn&#039;t as good at warp poker as the EMPRAH and batshit insane by then. He even called one of his sons Maloghurst at some point as recently revealed in &amp;quot;Saturnine&amp;quot;. Horus therefore slew Sanguinius so hard that it psychically traumatized the Blood Angels for ages to come, and the [[Black Rage]] became the ([[Mephiston|almost]]) inescapable mental scourge it is on the chapter today.&lt;br /&gt;
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==After Death==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Iskandar Khayon]] revealed an interesting fact about the [[Vengeful Spirit]], after letting himself be captured. Apparently, those who died aboard it had echoes of themselves bound to the ship, manifesting as crystal statues that let you experience a part of their death if you touched them. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius&#039;s statue is the most talked-about in both Black Legion books. It seems to move around and regenerate somehow when no one notices. Khayon uses shards of Sanguinius&#039;s crystalline ghost along with shards of his sword to create Khayon&#039;s excellent force sword, which is probably equal to a master-crafted one if not even better.   Doing this with a piece of Sanguinius’s couldn’t possibly end badly for a Chaos Sorcerer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly this might mean Sanguinius could eventually be resurrected should the statue be captured. No statue of Horus exists on the Vengeful Spirit, so this might be the ghost of the Angel, trapped forever in his final moments. The fact that the Black Rage traps his sons in the exact same state may imply that the Rage is not the backlash of Sanguinius&#039;s death, but rather the echoes of his current statuesque existence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course that would require [[Advancing the Storyline|ACTUAL PLOT,]] so it probably won&#039;t happen. It could ruin Girlyman&#039;s [[Yvraine|date night.]] This is also Khayon we&#039;re talking about, so it&#039;s also likely he&#039;s full of shit, as this phenomenon would&#039;ve flooded every possible inch on the ship with crystallized corpses given how short the lifespans are for the Slaves working on it. (Because dying of natural causes in the [[Warp]] must happen all the time. Discounting possible Nurgle-entropy related stuff.)&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Devastation of Baal, after being introed by the [[Sanguinor]], the spirit of Sanguinius appeared before [[Dante]] when the latter was in a near-death state after killing the [[Swarmlord]] and [[Awesome|proudly declared Dante his greatest son]]. After Dante expresses a desire to join his Primarch in death, Sanguinius sadly informs his long-suffering son that his duty has not yet ended, and uses his warp powers to heal and reinvigorate Dante, before he is painfully yanked back into the world of the living. Subsequently, in the time not long after [[Awesome|Dante&#039;s appointment as Regent of Imperium Nihilus by Guilliman]], [[Mephiston]] underwent the Rubicon Primaris, turning him into a [[Primaris Marine]]. During the procedure, he too was visited by Sanguinius in the spirit realm, which brought Mephiston to tears. Yes, you read that correctly; Mephiston, The Lord of Death him-motherfucking-self, literally (not figuratively) fell to his knees and began to weep when greeted by Sanguinius, and immediately addressed him as &amp;quot;my father&amp;quot;. Just let that sink in. Interestingly, during his convalescence, in a conversation with Dante, Mephiston was able to recognize that Dante too had been visited by and conversed with their father. Though Mephiston expressed some uncertainty as to whether or not it had actually been Sanguinius whom they had spoken with, not wishing to be disappointed, Dante on the other hand knew better and was adamant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legacy==&lt;br /&gt;
Although Sanguinius lost to Horus, it is widely believed that the Emperor would not have been able to destroy Horus afterwards were it not for the chink that Sanguinius put in Horus&#039; armour. Second, it is also widely agreed that if Horus hadn&#039;t come to save his legion&#039;s ass that day on Terra, it would have been ground out of existence by Sanguinius and the Blood Angels. Lastly, it is also agreed that Sanguinius was tired after several days of fighting (he defied the likes of Ka&#039;bandha and crushed &#039;&#039;Daemon primarch&#039;&#039; [[Angron]] on the battlements!), is already bleeding and wounded (as shown by Ruinstorm) and if he had been totally refreshed, Horus would have had a lot more than just a chink in his armour. However, in the Horus Heresy Collected Visions, it details the battle between the Emperor and Horus, and makes it clear that the main reason Big-E didn&#039;t kill him immediately is because he thought he might be able to save him… A sentiment that seems to be inching further and further to the fore as &#039;&#039;The Siege Of Terra&#039;&#039; series progresses, incidentally. Though it was a hope which was dashed as soon as The Emperor saw Sanguinius&#039; body. However, in Visions of Heresy, Big-E still held back, even after seeing Sanguinius&#039; body. It wasn&#039;t until the Emperor was mortally wounded on the floor that this changed. It says that as he&#039;s lying, waiting for the final blow, [[Ollanius Pius|a certain adamantium-balled Imperial Guardsman]] (exemplifying everything it means to be one) appears and rushes toward him, Horus contemptuously kills the Guardsman without barely an effort, laughing maniacally as he did so. It was this utter contempt for taking a life which FINALLY made the Emperor realise there was no saving his son.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius by noldofinve-d4xpxx5-5157.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|Look, if I HAD to bang a dude... just sayin&#039;.]]  &lt;br /&gt;
In short, if Horus is Lucifer and The Emprah is God, then Sanguinius is Jesus. Sanguinius died for your sins…just like Optimus Prime does on a daily basis.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius also bears the rare distinction of being one of the few Primarchs (alongside [[Horus]], [[Ferrus Manus]], [[Leman Russ]], [[Perturabo]], and [[Roboute Guilliman]]) who were capable of lasting more than 3 seconds against [[Angron]]. In Echoes of Eternity, Sanguinius takes on a Daemon Angron and crushes him after unleashing his full rage. That&#039;s right, he beats the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;superpowered&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; version of Angron. It should also be noted that, unlike his brothers, who each embodied one of the Emperor&#039;s traits ([[Roboute Guilliman]] was his strategy, [[Angron]] was his ferocity, etc.), Sanguinius was the embodiment of the Emperor as a whole. So, you could argue that the Blood Angels are the Astartes closest to the Emperor (suck it, Ward).&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 41st millennium, Sanguinius is the Primarch most beloved by the [[Imperium]] for his [[Dreadnought|heroic sacrifice]] (despite what [[Matt Ward|he who shall not be named]] would say about [[Roboute Guilliman|our Spiritual Liege]]), and is a hero of the Imperial Cult. Across the Imperium a celebration called the Sanguinala is held in his honor, where adepts wear the iconography of the Blood Angels. A festival dedicated to [[Leman Russ]] would have been a better party, but would also have involved more property damage and alcohol-related deaths. Also, apparently, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVxcGxRv_I Reclusiarch Grimaldus is not a huge fan of it].&lt;br /&gt;
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The mysterious entity known as the [[Sanguinor]] is believed to be the incarnation of Sanguinius&#039; better nature, or the first [[Sanguinary Guard]] Herald Azkaellon, miraculously preserved through time. Its actual origin, though, is far more mundane: when Sanguinius was named Emperor of [[Roboute Guilliman|Guilliman&#039;]]s [[Imperium Secundus]], he and Azkaellon invented the figure by sealing one of the Sanguinary Guard into his own armour, erasing his identity and allowing him to act as Sanguinius&#039; public face and deal with petitioners, whilst Sanguinius himself could be elsewhere, you know...[[Get shit done|dealing with stuff]]. By the end of the Horus Heresy, Sanguinius&#039; herald went through some kind of apotheosis on Davin while taking his Primarch&#039;s place in the opening of a warp portal, and Azkaellon would be the only member of the Sanguinary Guard to actually survive the Horus Heresy, so most people think the current incarnation is him. In modern 40k, outside of perhaps the Sanguinary Guard themselves, the only &amp;quot;living&amp;quot; people who know the truth of the Sanguinor&#039;s origin is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|the Lion]], but he&#039;s in no position to tell anyone, and [[Roboute Guilliman]], who cannot provide the origin of the Sanguinor without having to explain why the [[Heresy|&amp;quot;Emperor&amp;quot;]] needed a proxy. Since nobody else in the 42nd millennium is entirely certain of the truth, it&#039;s getting the [[Inquisition]]&#039;s panties in a bunch. But whether or not the modern and original Sanguinor are the same person, something warpy had to happen since then, since the Sanguinor pops in and out of the immaterium, [[Legion of the Damned]] style.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is a well-known fact that every female (human, xenos, and daemonette) in the the whole grimdark galaxy wants Sanguinius sexually, as well as most males, including &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Khorne]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;{{Blam|WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT?!}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and [[Slaanesh]] (though that&#039;s about the lowest bar possible there). Many [[Sisters of Battle|Sororitas]] (and some [[Space Marines|Astartes]]) cry themselves to sleep at the knowledge that they won&#039;t ever be able to hold his beautiful golden mane as he slays their quivering love pudding with his mighty, throbbing, enormous power spear.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; A recent flub on Twitch TV has revealed that Sanguinius may actually not be dead after all, but rather in Stasis... God damn it GW!!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Actually they meant to say his model would be released for Horus Heresy along with the rest of the Primarchs who still don&#039;t have models. Thank god for small miracles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Take note, this article contains a considerably smaller amount of the usual humor found on this wiki.  That&#039;s just how revered Sanguinius is.  People don&#039;t like joking about him.&lt;br /&gt;
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As is the nature of the shifting turbulent cluster-fuckery that is Warhammer 40k lore, in a strange turn of events, Primarch Sanguinius is also the only &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Primarch&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Human&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;being?&#039;&#039; that has garnered the respect of Szarekh, the Silent King of the [[Necrons]]. That&#039;s right, the King of &#039;&#039;a 60-million-year-old race, of space zombie-robot Egyptians that hates all life and views all other civilizations as inferior beings to be completely wiped out and almost harvested the entire galaxy&#039;&#039; [[awesome|seems to regard Sanguinius in significant esteem]]. When he met with Dante, he was wearing &#039;&#039;a freaking gold Sanguinius mask&#039;&#039; out of respect for the Great Angel. In fact, one of Szarekh&#039;s own heralds says to Dante of Sanguinius that &amp;quot;if there was ever a human to be mourned, noble [[Silent_King|Szarekh]] would say it was him.&amp;quot; Holy crap. The single oldest material being in the entire setting outside of the C&#039;tan seems actually to &#039;&#039;regret&#039;&#039; Sanguinius being dead. Revered indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius7sp.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|The angel himself, modeled here trying desperately to free his cape from the rock it&#039;s stuck on, however, even here his fabulousness doesn&#039;t let him down, as he strikes a pose similar to [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Guido_Reni_031.jpg Archangel Michael]. Not shown: the deluxe base featuring a daemon taking the place of Satan in that same painting.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Oh hell yes&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 485 || 9 || 5 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 7 || 6 || 10 || 2+/4++&lt;br /&gt;
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The Archangel makes his appearance on the table at last! Sanguinius is a pretty mobile Primarch, as he can use his &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jump Pack&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;Great Wings&#039;&#039;&#039; in both the movement and assault phase, [[Forgeworld|which would be impressive if he didn&#039;t have fleet and could therefore do that anyway]], still he allows all Blood Angels with Jump Packs to do so as well, and also prevents his unit from scattering when he deep strikes. Speaking of buffing nearby squads his sons are so inspired by his &#039;&#039;&#039;Angelic Presence&#039;&#039;&#039; that if they are within 3&amp;quot; they add +d3 wounds to combat resolution. While you&#039;re flying about into combat, you can &#039;&#039;&#039;Sky Strike&#039;&#039;&#039; a unit you moved over, which is a single S6 AP2 vector strike that causes D3 hits on Zooming Flyers and Swooping MCs, making him the only Primarch that can reliably take down a flyer. He rounds out these buffs by making Dawnbreaker Cohorts into troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Raven Guard and Night Lord players are well aware, Primarchs with Jump Packs are very very good at getting the charge, and Sanguinius comes with a host of buffs to make the most of it with a S10 AP2 HoW attack, his &#039;&#039;&#039;Regalia Resplendent&#039;&#039;&#039; providing the 2+/4++ saves that are standard for Primarchs and lets him reroll that Invuln on the charge, being the &#039;&#039;&#039;Sire of the Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; gives him +1 I (to a Fulgrim-tier &#039;&#039;&#039;8&#039;&#039;&#039;) and A on the first turn of combat (so he has Rage and Counter-Attack basically). Not enough for you? Good, you greedy bastard, because if you equip him with the &#039;&#039;&#039;Spear of Telesto&#039;&#039;&#039; he gets &#039;&#039;&#039;+3S&#039;&#039;&#039; on the charge with [[Awesome|Master-Crafted Instant Death AP1 attacks that double if you roll a 6 to wound]], alternatively, if you&#039;re an idiot, you can [[Derp|throw it away]] for ONE SINGLE S7 AP1 armourbane instant death attack at 12&amp;quot;. Sure, if you take the Spear you have a backup MC Duelist Edge (I9 on the charge!) Blinding sword that scores double hits against daemons and psykers, but it&#039;s [[Fail|AP3]], do you really want to leave Papa Sang bouncing off an artificer sergeant?&lt;br /&gt;
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Alternatively, you could equip him with the &#039;&#039;&#039;Blade Encarmine&#039;&#039;&#039; replacing both Telesto and Moonsilver with a S+1 AP2 Shredding sword that also grants Rampage for a possible maximum of &#039;&#039;&#039;11&#039;&#039;&#039; attacks on the charge, putting him on par with Angron with his Butcher&#039;s Nails attacks maxed out. This will likely be slightly overkill most of the time against baseline infantry, while the lack of potential S9 and Instant Death is a huge drawback against both vehicles, monsters and multi-wounded units. Take it if you want Papa Sang to butcher one of his brothers and any cocky motherfuckers with Eternal Warrior, or annihilate anything with a single Wound. Otherwise, go for the Spear of Telesto instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for guns, he&#039;s got that attack with the Spear, frag grenades and a one-shot meltagun that&#039;s assault 2, one that doesn&#039;t even have the Melta rule. That&#039;s it. So make sure he gets stuck in, will you? Also make sure it&#039;s where you want him because he lacks the Hit and Run rule for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Sanguinius VS Other Primarchs====&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying. With that in mind this section is all about how Sanguinius fares against other Primarchs mathhammer wise.  Please note that all the various abilities, with the exception of Blind, are taken into account (Blind is ignored because it is just too random and unreliable to come into play) and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. Also all of the Primarch use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?), so Sanguinius will use the Blade Encarmine except against Angron. Furthermore the math is based on a standing start, which severely gimps Sanguinius as many of his buffs are on the charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times (Talon), wounds 2.667 times, 1.33 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.858 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus wins. Even if Sanguinius gets the charge, the Talon will cripple him in a couple of turns.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times, 1.875 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.54 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4 times (Spear), wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wound at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.5 times, wounds 5.333 times (including HoW), 2.528 after saves and FNP (HoW affected) and IWND will take that down to 2.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times, 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**They kill each other. Well well!&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius wins with the Spear while achieving a mutual kill with the Blade. Negating Angron&#039;s FNP makes the Spear the better weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
** Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 2.417 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.861 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1.5 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.944 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 3 times (Fireblade), wounds 2.333 times (Child of Terra), 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2: hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.722 times, 1.361 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.028 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.859 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius loses (!) as Fulgrim has a chance of killing him in round 5 (5.94 wounds average), and even if not Fulgrim has the higher initiative in round 6.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius can beat Fulgrim by round 5 (5.93 wounds average) while lowering Fulgrim&#039;s own chances, but if he doesn&#039;t Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Ferrus Manus&lt;br /&gt;
** Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 1.042 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.708 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.278 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses, needing 8 rounds whereas Ferrus needs 7.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: On Sanguinius&#039; charge the odds are reversed, with Sanguinius needing 7 rounds whereas Ferrus needs 8.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Curze&lt;br /&gt;
** Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 1.125 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.792 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.787 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.454 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: With the first turn charge, Widowmakers and H&amp;amp;R Curze can achieve a mutual kill in Round 4, however Sanguinius regaining +1I and +1A in Round 3 lets him do 5.89 wounds average &#039;&#039;before Curze attacks&#039;&#039;, so things could go badly for the Batman.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
** Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.611 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: As with Ferrus, Sanguinius wins on the charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Lorgar&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 3.889 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 2.881 times, 1.44 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.107 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.444 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 3.959 times (including HoW), 1.979 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.646 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: As usual, psychic powers not included. You know how it would end anyway...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
** Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times (Forgebreaker), 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Perturabo (with Sanguinius blinded) hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222 times (Forgebreaker), 1.111 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius (blinded): hits 2 times, wounds 1.778 times, 0.593 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.259 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses depending if/when he fails blind checks, even on the charge. He needs to not be Blinded for 2-3 rounds excluding the first to win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
** Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.407 times (HoW affected by Auric Armour), 2.704 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.37 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
** Corax hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3/2.25 times, 1.5/1.125 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.167/0.792 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Scourge)/3.5 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 4.148/3.111 times, 2.765/2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.432/1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.667 times (Scourge)/3.5 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 4.981 times/3.944 times (including HoW), 3.321/2.63 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.988/2.296 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3.556/2.667 times, 2.37/1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.037/1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins, even if Corax Hit &amp;amp; Runs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
** Alpharius hits 2.667 times, wounds 1.701 times, 0.851 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.517 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.788 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.454 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
** Guilliman Rounds 1-3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times (Gladius), 1.111 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Guilliman Round 4: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times (Gladius)/2.778 times (Hand), 1.481/1.389 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.148/1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.824 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 1.491 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.537 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 2.204 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.528 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 1.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 3+: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.083 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 0.75 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Magnus the Red&lt;br /&gt;
** Magnus hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 3.5 times (Blade), wounds 3.111 times, 1.556 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4 times, wounds 4.389 times (including HoW), 2.194 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.861 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wound at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins, psychic powers not included.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
** Russ (Axe): hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.917 times, 1.458 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.125 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 2.333 times (Blade), wounds 1.778 times, 1.037 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.703 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 2.667 times, wounds 3.204 times (including HoW), 1.602 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.269 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 2 times, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses. Even if he charges, he&#039;s gimped badly in the later rounds by the -1 to hit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Jaghatai Khan&lt;br /&gt;
** Khan hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.278 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius narrowly loses due to the Khan striking first.&lt;br /&gt;
** With the charge Sanguinius will beat the Khan even if he Hit &amp;amp; Runs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TL;DR version: Sanguinius is (un?)surprisingly middling in the duels, the main reason being his bonuses requiring the charge. In fairness, he is mobile enough to get it. His various charge bonuses significantly improve his damage, but more importantly rerolling his saves just once boosts his average (for a Primarch) defense, which is why he distinctly has the charge situation crunched.&lt;br /&gt;
* On the choice of weapons: The Spear of Telesto&#039;s damage skyrockets on the charge, but due to the length of primarch duels the Blade Encarmine overtakes it in a few rounds, especially against 3++. The exception is Angron who is really hurt by Instant Death.&lt;br /&gt;
* Note: The Angel&#039;s Wrath Rite of War gives Sanguinius Hit &amp;amp; Run. With that and the Spear of Telesto, Sanguinius should be able to beat most primarchs. The exceptions are Precog Lorgar and Horus, with Ferrus, Perturabo and Lion close (good defense and varying abilities to neuter H&amp;amp;R).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:SangSpear.jpg|Alternative model of Papa Sang posing for a Renaissance Art Fair.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Heretic.png|Sanguinius gets the bitches.  All of &#039;em. Every last one.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanginuscool.jpg|Is it time for Sanguinius to choke some bitches again? &#039;&#039;&#039;Hell yes, baby.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Astartesjealousy.jpg| Sanguinius: The most bishie of bishies.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by koowanchee-d484eu4.jpg|Don&#039;t you wish your Primarch was hot like me?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fear to tread.jpg|Sanguinius, only slightly less fabulous than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius1.jpg|He&#039;s fabulous. [[Fulgrim]] wishes he could be that fabulous.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tsundere Ka&#039;Bandha.png|This counts as [[Extra Heresy]].&lt;br /&gt;
File:879E3111-548D-402E-AD3F-AC82158F5EE9.jpeg|Spear or sword? Pick one or he gives you both.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by Syberfab.png|It&#039;s not gay if it&#039;s Sanguinius.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SanguiniusArt5mt.jpg|thumb|400px|Papa Sang, as drawn by a [[Remembrancer]] during the Great Crusade. Looking &#039;&#039;100% FABULOUS&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.|Joseph Campbell}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Was there ever another Guardian so beloved by the people?|Paean to Saint-14, Destiny}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|My good blade carves the casques of men,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;My tough lance thrusteth sure,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;My strength is as the strength of ten,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Because my heart is pure.|Sir Galahad, Tennyson}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Great Angel&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Brightest One&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Lord of Baal&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Master of Hosts&#039;&#039;&#039;, (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Papa Sang&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|Fabulous Fucking Hawk-Boy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Space Jesus&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Definitely Not Led Zeppelin&#039;s Robert Plant&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Primarch Fabulous&#039;&#039;&#039; to the people of /tg/), &#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius, Beloved by All&#039;&#039;&#039; was (and that &#039;was&#039; is quite significant) the [[Primarch]] of the [[Blood Angels]] [[Chapter]] (formerly legion) of [[Space Marines]]. He was notable for the fuckhueg angel-like wings (not to be confused with the actual [[the Angel|Angel]]) that &amp;quot;mutated&amp;quot; out of his back during his childhood on his home planet, [[Baal]], as well as his heroic deeds during the [[Great Crusade]]. Unfortunately, Sanguinius was slain by [[Horus]] during his eponymous [[Horus Heresy|Heresy]], though it is widely believed that it was Sanguinius&#039; weakening of the Arch-Traitor which made it possible for the [[Emperor]] to shut Horus&#039;s big, stupid, [[heresy]]-spewing mouth once and for all, and thus save mankind from the clutches of [[Chaos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[FAIL|And for some reason the Black Library likes drawing him with silly hair rolls]]. Though at least his model accurately depicts his FABULOUS flowing hair, second only to the Emperor himself. Cry me a river [[Fulgrim]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Origins==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Warhammer-40000-Sang-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|thumb|A young Sangi rolelplaying his way through Jesus.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Like the rest of the Primarchs, Sanguinius was bio-engineered on [[Terra]] to serve as a general in the [[Emperor]]&#039;s armies, and was stolen in his infancy and carried away across the galaxy by daemonic agents of [[Chaos]] in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts to unite humanity. Landing on [[Baal]], he was found by the Folk of the Blood, a local tribe who raised him to manhood. They were going to kill him for being a mutant, but when it became clear that Sanguinius was a badass warrior-prodigy the likes of which they&#039;d never seen, they decided he was worth keeping. After all, Sanguinius was actually a pretty nice guy for [[Warhammer 40,000|40k]], and he was pretty handy at fighting off those other mutants that kept attacking them from Baal&#039;s radioactive deserts, which he could walk through without any protection. As such, Sanguinius quickly ascended as a leader among the tribes of Baal and drove back the hordes of mutants threatening their hold on the world, eventually attaining a near god-like status among the planet&#039;s denizens. &lt;br /&gt;
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After the Emperor found Baal and bade Sanguinius to assume his rightful place among his armies, Sanguinius wept a single tear of joy because he contained the perfect amount of [[Fist of the North Star|manliness]]; in touch with his emotions, but aware that ugly-crying is intolerable. He bowed before the Emperor, and pledged his loyalty in exchange for the Emperor leaving Baal alone. This was both because he wanted to keep the planet as it was for the sake of developing Legion recruits, and because most of the population had insisted on worshiping him. Sanguinius had never encouraged this practice but had known that, as a 10 foot tall Giga-chad with angel wings, the stunted, heavily mutated inhabitants of Baal were going to worship him whether he liked it or not. Obviously Big E frowned rather lethally upon worship, and Sanguinius did not want his people to come to harm. The Emperor agreed, the greatest of Sanguinius&#039; tribal warriors were extended the honor of joining the [[Space Marines|Adeptus Astartes]], and were thereafter implanted with the gene-seed drawn from Sanguinius&#039; genome. These men became the first members of the ninth Space Marine legion to be founded, and the [[Blood Angels]] were born (not from Terra at least).&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:7d9a85e6e4a368bb435e943fc891a25b.jpg|thumbnail|right|250px|Sanguinius (left) and Horus whooping some ass together before [[Erebus|SOMEBODY]] had to go and damn the Imperium to an eternity of [[Grimdark|war, cultural stagnation, paranoia and self destructive behaviour]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Joining the [[Great Crusade]], Sanguinius became best buds with fellow Primarchs [[Horus]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], [[Magnus the Red]], [[Jaghatai Khan]] and [[Rogal Dorn]]. Ironically (and later, tragically), his friendship with Horus is said to have been closer than that of any of the other Primarchs. Which, this being Warhammer, went straight to hell when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. He was easily the most [[Pretty Marines|fabulous]] of all the Emperor&#039;s generals (SUCK IT [[Fulgrim|FULGRIM]]); he wore a glowing, ornate set of golden artificer armor adorned with huge rubies which represented Terra, Baal, and Baal&#039;s moons, and his magnificent white wings would spread behind him as he took to the skies of the battlefield. But Sanguinius&#039;s beauty was not merely skin deep, as Fulgrim&#039;s often was. For instance, the Khan noted during a small family chat that while Sanguinius and Fulgrim were similarly resplendent, Sanguinius was completely at ease in his aspect, where Fulgrim seemed a bit brittle. At the same time, the Great Angel gave the impression that he&#039;d be perfectly willing to cast off his finery, whereas Fulgrim gave the impression that he would rather die. Basically, in Sanguinius&#039; case, [[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] abandoned all pretense of being subtle about the whole &amp;quot;the Emperor is God, the primarchs are the archangels, and Horus is Lucifer&amp;quot; thing—like, to the point that Sanguinius became known simply as &amp;quot;The Angel&amp;quot; among the armies of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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He did some pretty cool shit during the Crusade too, at one point taking on an entire blood-mad Eldar Craftworld with a third of his Legion. Admittedly it was a struggle - the Craftworld fielded  Wraiths in large numbers - and had to deploy the Ordo Sinister psy-Titans after massive Eldar Wraith machines destroyed his Legio Fureans allies, but still, Sanguinius managed to tear the head off one of the walkers. Not a sparkly, feathery man to fuck with.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though not first in favor among the Emprah&#039;s Primarchs (that position belonged to Horus, pre-heresy), [[Magnus the Red|or the biggest psychic powerhouse]], [[Roboute Guilliman|or the best at empire-building]], [[Lorgar|or even the one who looked most like Dad]], Sanguinius was said to have the best &#039;&#039;blend&#039;&#039; of the Big E&#039;s attributes (which, considering the fact that space marines are a toned-down version of their primarchs, may imply the Blood Angels are the most similar to the Emperor). While a lot of the Space Marine legions and their generals fought in the Great Crusade just for the sake of glory and a good battle, Sanguinius and his Blood Angels fought for what the Emperor himself did: [[Noblebright|a better galaxy, a peaceful galaxy, one where humanity would be united, happy, and prosperous]]. During the Crusade, the Blood Angels formed a friendly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] legion (yet another relationship the Horus Heresy would royally buttfuck), because both were noted for being assault-oriented shock troops; however, while they were pretty evenly matched in their level of prowess, saddled with the Butcher&#039;s Nails, the World Eaters were straight-up lunatics in combat, whereas the Blood Angels&#039; ferocity was channeled and refined when it needed to be by Sanguinius&#039; wisdom. The World Eaters fury ran hot, where the Blood Angels ran cold. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, everyone loved the guy. Even at the depths of his heresy, even &#039;&#039;Horus&#039;&#039; wished Sanguinius was one of his generals. [[meme|And he was a good guy who doesn&#039;t afraid of anything]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Signus Prime and Ka&#039;Bandha===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Signusianclash.jpg|thumb|left|400px|&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Awesome|If you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguinius who threw you back.]]&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; —Sanguinius, taking a small moment to deliver this line after decapitating a [[Keeper of Secrets]] and [[rip and tear|&amp;quot;relieving&amp;quot;]] [[Khorne]]&#039;s mightiest servant of his wings, and just generally setting the stage for Ka&#039;Bandha&#039;s future [[butthurt]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point during the Great Crusade, Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were tasked by Warmaster Horus with reclaiming the Signus Cluster from a supposed [[xenos]] infestation and liberating the humans there from their oppressors. However, when they arrived, they found that the entire system had been consumed by the evil influence of the [[Chaos Gods]], and specifically a [[Keeper of Secrets]] calling itself Kyriss [[/d/|the Perverse]]. This was actually a trap set by Horus in an attempt to eliminate Sanguinius early on, because he feared him more than any of his other fellow Primarchs as he was nearly his equal in both combat and commanding. In fact, at one point right before his fall to Chaos, Horus actually admitted to a Remembrancer that he thought that Sanguinius should have been named Warmaster instead of him. Also this was after Horus&#039;s corruption and Sanguinius was not aware of the Isstvan conflicts at the time. Long story short, the Blood Angels were stranded in-system, caught off guard, and lost a lot of Marines, ships, and crew, but eventually regrouped and conquered the armies of cultists and Chaos [[daemons]] in the Signus system. Kyriss even manifested on the bridge of the Red Tear, the Blood Angels flagship, from the frames of [[Khorne|eight]] servitors, to taunt Sanguinius. This was also Horus&#039;s first true defeat, as there was no benefit gained from the campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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But a greater threat soon emerged: [[Ka&#039;bandha]], a powerful [[Bloodthirster]] and one of [[Khorne]]&#039;s greatest servants. He attacked the Blood Angels while taunting Sanguinius in the middle of the battle and claimed that Horus had betrayed him. Refusing to believe this, Sanguinius attacked in [[rage]], and managed to stab his sword right into the daemon&#039;s chest and wound him severely. Ka&#039;bandha, almost beaten, distracted the primarch with the truth of horus’s betrayal. Ka&#039;bandha then lashed out with his whip, ensnaring Sanguinius&#039; legs and crushing them. Then, leaving Sanguinius alive for [[Plot armor|some]] [[rage|reason]] (perhaps fearful Sanguinius really would become an angel if he died), then charged off to slay a few hundred Blood Angels. The Red Thirst, already a problem for the Blood Angels, was exacerbated by the psychic shockwaves of each of his sons dying, and Sanguinius vowed that he would take vengeance on Ka&#039;bandha for this atrocity. In the Chaos temple at the centre of the battle, Sanguinius duelled Ka&#039;Bandha again, ripping off a wing and then throwing him off a platform and back through a portal into the realm of Chaos. To top it off, Sanguinius then faced Kyriss and beheaded that sick fuck, promptly ending his rule and Chaos&#039; hold on the system.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a moment of hesitation, Sanguinius was tempted by the offer of becoming a Chaos Champion in exchange for curing the Red Thirst and Black Rage. Seeing this, Meros jumped straight into the portal, telling his Primarch not to give up hope, turning into the Daemon known as the Red Angel (Meros&#039; geneseed would later be transplanted onto Rafen)&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspired by his sacrifice Sanguinius was able to say no to the Daemons. This gave him the courage to resist the temptation of Chaos later on when Madai offered the same deal&lt;br /&gt;
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===During the later Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Blade with whom I have lived, blade with whom I now die,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;serve right and justice one last time, seek one last heart of evil,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;still one last life of pain. Cut well, old friend, and then farewell.|Sir Orin Neville Smythe}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Signus Prime, the majority of the Blood Angels found themselves on the wrong side of the Ruinstorm. Drawn to Macragge by the Pharos, Sanguinius learned that his brothers Guilliman and the Lion were trying to set the beginnings of a second Imperium. Sanguinius reluctantly accepted the premise, and was instated as the Emperor of the Imperium Secundus. Being Emperor didn&#039;t sit easily with him, and much of the day-to-day ruling was done by Guilliman and the Lion. After Curze paid him a nasty visit / scrying competition, the Angel demanded more oversight into the affairs of the new Empire. When Curze was finally captured, all three members of the Imperial Triumvirate realised that Terra had not yet fallen, but that Sanguinius would be doomed to die by Horus&#039;s hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Angel had in truth already foreseen his death at the hands of Horus, and knew what it would mean for his sons. However, he accepted that his sacrifice was necessary to preserve his father&#039;s works in the long run and took solace in the fact that the Blood Angels would continue to follow in his footsteps even as they grappled with the Black Rage. Moreover, via the temptations of chaos he endured with his brothers in the Ruinstorm--he found that the false hope he had been given, namely that he &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; survive the end of the Horus Heresy and even triumph, but learned it would come  with a terrible cost. He would gain power from Chaos and slay Horus and save his sons from the curse to come--as a [[Wat|Greater Daemon of Chaos Undivided]] made mention that Horus had become an imperfect vessel and that papa-Sang was to take his place as the Angel of Ruin. So in a nutshell it&#039;s The Last Temptation of Sanguinius, but with less Willem Dafoe. Naturally space vampire Jesus didn&#039;t take the daemon up on the offer and fought his way through a daemon throng until he pinned the daemon halfway through the materium and the warp. In his mind a last defiant act, choosing to neither be slain by Horus or choose chaos, but to die holding the daemon in between the rift to the warp so his Brother-Primarchs could Orbitally Bombard Davin into dust. Unfortunately through vision he realized that the Black Rage would be inevitable, as the proto-rage had filled him by that point, its origins being explained as the violent hatred and rage at the Betrayal of Horus against him and the Emprah, and the sheer pain of his death, existing in the past and future as it resonated through time--and the grief of the death he hadn&#039;t experienced yet. [[Doctor Who|Timey Wimey bullshit shenanigans]] aside, if the Jesus metaphors weren&#039;t strong enough, [[Sanguinor|Sanguinius&#039; Herald]] stepped up to the plate and planted his sword in the Daemon&#039;s spine and held it there so Sanguinius wouldn&#039;t have to die there. And with that last act the flickers of hope that had died in Sanguinius rekindled and witnessed the miracle of a new Angel coming into being. The Herald was empowered by the warp, glowing a radiant gold with the outline of wings springing from his shoulders as he became in the Primarch&#039;s own words the &amp;quot;Son of my hope&amp;quot;. Explaining the origins of one of the Blood Angel&#039;s specialest of snowflakes, making him a Draigo/Celestine-esque Daemon Prince of Sanguinius. That sound you&#039;re hearing is the noise of every Puritan Inquisitor&#039;s blood-vessels bursting in their eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a positive, because of the Triumvirate of Primarch&#039;s success on Davin the [[Warp Storm|Ruinstorm]] abated revealing a straight shot to Terra, on a negative, Horus had left a massive fleet to protect the way there [[Just As Planned|(how he knew that THAT place would be the way that opened for them is a bit of a mystery)]] and all tactical scenarios concluded that if they tried to engage them simultaneously they would only be mired down so that none of them could reach Terra. So the Primarchs decided to split up, taking a page out of the Codex of Brother Vincentius Lombardius, they would split the defense and rush the goal: Guilliman using the sheer bulk of his larger fleet to engage the traitors while the Lion fell back and attacked the traitor Legion&#039;s homeworlds, burning them with extreme prejudice, while the Blood Angels hung back long enough for Guilliman to break the bulk of the armada and the Lion to draw away and contend with the forces that splintered away as he burnt their homes, giving us a nice tidy bow of exactly where the hell the other primarchs were when shit happened. As Sanguinius corroborated his visions with Curze, he felt that he had come across a revelation - hence the need for his Legion to be the ones to reach Terra. He may have been fated to perish at the hands of Horus, but even if destiny was set, the consequence could be altered. He would fight and die, but his sacrifice would allow the Imperium to persist. He let Curze in on this, letting him in on the razor-thin hope of the future&#039;s mutability; he said he could take the Night Haunter to the Emperor, and that the Big-E could do something Konrad had never thought of exploring: he could forgive him. Just as a spark of hope entered his eyes, Sanguinius promised that he wouldn&#039;t allow that for Curze, that he would freeze Curze in stasis and jettison the pod, preserving him for millennia if necessary, and that Konrad Curze had no fucking chance of outrunning or changing his future death, [[Awesome|terrifying 40k batman so hard he&#039;d probably be locked in an eternity of despair as he&#039;s frozen in stasis.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Good is not nice, indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|thumbnail|right|500px|Unfortunately, this is the image most people know Sanguinius from. (He&#039;s the fabulous dead guy lying on the floor.) This also is the least fabulous image of him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With the help of the [[Dark Angels]] and the [[Ultramarines]], the Blood Angels were able to make it back to [[Terra]] in the closing days of the Horus Heresy to defend it from the traitor legions and their daemonic allies. Sanguinius and his legion led the defense of the Imperial Palace itself when the forces of Chaos closed in around it, and the Primarch slew innumerable daemons, traitors and other assorted scum in the process. Oh, and he also &#039;&#039;soloed a Warlord TITAN&#039;&#039; and then scared off it&#039;s warhound escorts by glaring at them too hard. A little while later, while single handedly defenting the Eternity Gate from the entire Chaos force, Ka&#039;Bandha turned up. The two went at it again rather majestically atop the Eternity Gate to the Emperor&#039;s throne room, where Sanguinius managed to [[Awesome|SNAP KA&#039;BANDHA&#039;S SPINE OVER HIS MOTHERFUCKING KNEE]]. He then hurled the bastard&#039;s corpse back into the throng of Chaos filth below, and the Blood Angels who had died by the Bloodthirster&#039;s hand were thus avenged in the most spectacularly badass of ways. Seeing this, the rest of the Chaos force went [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g fuck this shit I&#039;m out] and ran, while the Loyalists were able to safely close the Eternity Gate. &lt;br /&gt;
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But this is Warhammer 40,000, and [[noblebright]] doesn&#039;t last very long against [[grimdark]], even when it&#039;s badass noblebright. Eventually, the Big E himself, along with Sanguinius, [[Rogal Dorn]], Rogal Dorn&#039;s mustache, and a contingent of their respective Marines, launched a last-ditch assault against Horus, teleporting aboard his [[Battle Barge|battle barge]] and taking the fight to the Warmaster himself. As fighting broke out across the capital ship, Sanguinius got sequestered from the rest of the assault party, and when he found Horus, he was alone. Horus, perhaps out of some small, lingering sense of brotherhood with Sanguinius, offered his former friend, for the final time, a chance to turn to Chaos. But Sanguinius said &#039;&#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhDjz0WAZs&amp;quot;NEVAH!&amp;quot;]&#039;&#039;&#039; and the two Primarchs proceeded to battle for the fate of mankind. Though Sanguinius was one of the most powerful of the Primarchs, he was wounded and wearied from the fight on Terra and already at a disadvantage, and Horus had been granted terrible power by the gods of Chaos to boot (terrible indeed, because he apparently wasn&#039;t as good at warp poker as the EMPRAH and batshit insane by then. He even called one of his sons Maloghurst at some point as recently revealed in &amp;quot;Saturnine&amp;quot;. Horus therefore slew Sanguinius so hard that it psychically traumatized the Blood Angels for ages to come, and the [[Black Rage]] became the ([[Mephiston|almost]]) inescapable mental scourge it is on the chapter today.&lt;br /&gt;
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==After Death==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Iskandar Khayon]] revealed an interesting fact about the [[Vengeful Spirit]], after letting himself be captured. Apparently, those who died aboard it had echoes of themselves bound to the ship, manifesting as crystal statues that let you experience a part of their death if you touched them. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius&#039;s statue is the most talked-about in both Black Legion books. It seems to move around and regenerate somehow when no one notices. Khayon uses shards of Sanguinius&#039;s crystalline ghost along with shards of his sword to create Khayon&#039;s excellent force sword, which is probably equal to a master-crafted one if not even better.   Doing this with a piece of Sanguinius’s couldn’t possibly end badly for a Chaos Sorcerer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Interestingly this might mean Sanguinius could eventually be resurrected should the statue be captured. No statue of Horus exists on the Vengeful Spirit, so this might be the ghost of the Angel, trapped forever in his final moments. The fact that the Black Rage traps his sons in the exact same state may imply that the Rage is not the backlash of Sanguinius&#039;s death, but rather the echoes of his current statuesque existence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course that would require [[Advancing the Storyline|ACTUAL PLOT,]] so it probably won&#039;t happen. It could ruin Girlyman&#039;s [[Yvraine|date night.]] This is also Khayon we&#039;re talking about, so it&#039;s also likely he&#039;s full of shit, as this phenomenon would&#039;ve flooded every possible inch on the ship with crystallized corpses given how short the lifespans are for the Slaves working on it. (Because dying of natural causes in the [[Warp]] must happen all the time. Discounting possible Nurgle-entropy related stuff.)&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Devastation of Baal, after being introed by the [[Sanguinor]], the spirit of Sanguinius appeared before [[Dante]] when the latter was in a near-death state after killing the [[Swarmlord]] and [[Awesome|proudly declared Dante his greatest son]]. After Dante expresses a desire to join his Primarch in death, Sanguinius sadly informs his long-suffering son that his duty has not yet ended, and uses his warp powers to heal and reinvigorate Dante, before he is painfully yanked back into the world of the living. Subsequently, in the time not long after [[Awesome|Dante&#039;s appointment as Regent of Imperium Nihilus by Guilliman]], [[Mephiston]] underwent the Rubicon Primaris, turning him into a [[Primaris Marine]]. During the procedure, he too was visited by Sanguinius in the spirit realm, which brought Mephiston to tears. Yes, you read that correctly; Mephiston, The Lord of Death him-motherfucking-self, literally (not figuratively) fell to his knees and began to weep when greeted by Sanguinius, and immediately addressed him as &amp;quot;my father&amp;quot;. Just let that sink in. Interestingly, during his convalescence, in a conversation with Dante, Mephiston was able to recognize that Dante too had been visited by and conversed with their father. Though Mephiston expressed some uncertainty as to whether or not it had actually been Sanguinius whom they had spoken with, not wishing to be disappointed, Dante on the other hand knew better and was adamant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legacy==&lt;br /&gt;
Although Sanguinius lost to Horus, it is widely believed that the Emperor would not have been able to destroy Horus afterwards were it not for the chink that Sanguinius put in Horus&#039; armour. Second, it is also widely agreed that if Horus hadn&#039;t come to save his legion&#039;s ass that day on Terra, it would have been ground out of existence by Sanguinius and the Blood Angels. Lastly, it is also agreed that Sanguinius was tired after several days of fighting (he defied the likes of Ka&#039;bandha and crushed &#039;&#039;Daemon primarch&#039;&#039; [[Angron]] on the battlements!), is already bleeding and wounded (as shown by Ruinstorm) and if he had been totally refreshed, Horus would have had a lot more than just a chink in his armour. However, in the Horus Heresy Collected Visions, it details the battle between the Emperor and Horus, and makes it clear that the main reason Big-E didn&#039;t kill him immediately is because he thought he might be able to save him… A sentiment that seems to be inching further and further to the fore as &#039;&#039;The Siege Of Terra&#039;&#039; series progresses, incidentally. Though it was a hope which was dashed as soon as The Emperor saw Sanguinius&#039; body. However, in Visions of Heresy, Big-E still held back, even after seeing Sanguinius&#039; body. It wasn&#039;t until the Emperor was mortally wounded on the floor that this changed. It says that as he&#039;s lying, waiting for the final blow, [[Ollanius Pius|a certain adamantium-balled Imperial Guardsman]] (exemplifying everything it means to be one) appears and rushes toward him, Horus contemptuously kills the Guardsman without barely an effort, laughing maniacally as he did so. It was this utter contempt for taking a life which FINALLY made the Emperor realise there was no saving his son.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius by noldofinve-d4xpxx5-5157.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|Look, if I HAD to bang a dude... just sayin&#039;.]]  &lt;br /&gt;
In short, if Horus is Lucifer and The Emprah is God, then Sanguinius is Jesus. Sanguinius died for your sins…just like Optimus Prime does on a daily basis.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius also bears the rare distinction of being one of the few Primarchs (alongside [[Horus]], [[Ferrus Manus]], [[Leman Russ]], [[Perturabo]], and [[Roboute Guilliman]]) who were capable of lasting more than 3 seconds against [[Angron]], who had Sanguinius&#039;s strength, but was much quicker to go all-out. Furthermore, though we won&#039;t know for sure until the conclusion of the &#039;&#039;Siege Of Terra&#039;&#039; novels, consistently the concensus in the fluff seems to be that especially following Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;ascension&amp;quot; to a Daemon Prince of Khorne, only Horus or Sanguinius would be able to surpass and kill Angron (though The Lion and Leman Russ would also probably give him a run for his money). It should also be noted that, unlike his brothers, who each embodied one of the Emperor&#039;s traits ([[Roboute Guilliman]] was his strategy, [[Angron]] was his ferocity, etc.), Sanguinius was the embodiment of the Emperor as a whole. So, you could argue that the Blood Angels are the Astartes closest to the Emperor (suck it, Ward).&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 41st millennium, Sanguinius is the Primarch most beloved by the [[Imperium]] for his [[Dreadnought|heroic sacrifice]] (despite what [[Matt Ward|he who shall not be named]] would say about [[Roboute Guilliman|our Spiritual Liege]]), and is a hero of the Imperial Cult. Across the Imperium a celebration called the Sanguinala is held in his honor, where adepts wear the iconography of the Blood Angels. A festival dedicated to [[Leman Russ]] would have been a better party, but would also have involved more property damage and alcohol-related deaths. Also, apparently, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVxcGxRv_I Reclusiarch Grimaldus is not a huge fan of it].&lt;br /&gt;
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The mysterious entity known as the [[Sanguinor]] is believed to be the incarnation of Sanguinius&#039; better nature, or the first [[Sanguinary Guard]] Herald Azkaellon, miraculously preserved through time. Its actual origin, though, is far more mundane: when Sanguinius was named Emperor of [[Roboute Guilliman|Guilliman&#039;]]s [[Imperium Secundus]], he and Azkaellon invented the figure by sealing one of the Sanguinary Guard into his own armour, erasing his identity and allowing him to act as Sanguinius&#039; public face and deal with petitioners, whilst Sanguinius himself could be elsewhere, you know...[[Get shit done|dealing with stuff]]. By the end of the Horus Heresy, Sanguinius&#039; herald went through some kind of apotheosis on Davin while taking his Primarch&#039;s place in the opening of a warp portal, and Azkaellon would be the only member of the Sanguinary Guard to actually survive the Horus Heresy, so most people think the current incarnation is him. In modern 40k, outside of perhaps the Sanguinary Guard themselves, the only &amp;quot;living&amp;quot; people who know the truth of the Sanguinor&#039;s origin is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|the Lion]], but he&#039;s in no position to tell anyone, and [[Roboute Guilliman]], who cannot provide the origin of the Sanguinor without having to explain why the [[Heresy|&amp;quot;Emperor&amp;quot;]] needed a proxy. Since nobody else in the 42nd millennium is entirely certain of the truth, it&#039;s getting the [[Inquisition]]&#039;s panties in a bunch. But whether or not the modern and original Sanguinor are the same person, something warpy had to happen since then, since the Sanguinor pops in and out of the immaterium, [[Legion of the Damned]] style.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is a well-known fact that every female (human, xenos, and daemonette) in the the whole grimdark galaxy wants Sanguinius sexually, as well as most males, including &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Khorne]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;{{Blam|WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT?!}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and [[Slaanesh]] (though that&#039;s about the lowest bar possible there). Many [[Sisters of Battle|Sororitas]] (and some [[Space Marines|Astartes]]) cry themselves to sleep at the knowledge that they won&#039;t ever be able to hold his beautiful golden mane as he slays their quivering love pudding with his mighty, throbbing, enormous power spear.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; A recent flub on Twitch TV has revealed that Sanguinius may actually not be dead after all, but rather in Stasis... God damn it GW!!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Actually they meant to say his model would be released for Horus Heresy along with the rest of the Primarchs who still don&#039;t have models. Thank god for small miracles.&lt;br /&gt;
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Take note, this article contains a considerably smaller amount of the usual humor found on this wiki.  That&#039;s just how revered Sanguinius is.  People don&#039;t like joking about him.&lt;br /&gt;
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As is the nature of the shifting turbulent cluster-fuckery that is Warhammer 40k lore, in a strange turn of events, Primarch Sanguinius is also the only &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Primarch&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Human&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;being?&#039;&#039; that has garnered the respect of Szarekh, the Silent King of the [[Necrons]]. That&#039;s right, the King of &#039;&#039;a 60-million-year-old race, of space zombie-robot Egyptians that hates all life and views all other civilizations as inferior beings to be completely wiped out and almost harvested the entire galaxy&#039;&#039; [[awesome|seems to regard Sanguinius in significant esteem]]. When he met with Dante, he was wearing &#039;&#039;a freaking gold Sanguinius mask&#039;&#039; out of respect for the Great Angel. In fact, one of Szarekh&#039;s own heralds says to Dante of Sanguinius that &amp;quot;if there was ever a human to be mourned, noble [[Silent_King|Szarekh]] would say it was him.&amp;quot; Holy crap. The single oldest material being in the entire setting outside of the C&#039;tan seems actually to &#039;&#039;regret&#039;&#039; Sanguinius being dead. Revered indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius7sp.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|The angel himself, modeled here trying desperately to free his cape from the rock it&#039;s stuck on, however, even here his fabulousness doesn&#039;t let him down, as he strikes a pose similar to [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Guido_Reni_031.jpg Archangel Michael]. Not shown: the deluxe base featuring a daemon taking the place of Satan in that same painting.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Oh hell yes&lt;br /&gt;
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! || Pts || WS || BS || S || T || W || I || A || Ld || Sv&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 485 || 9 || 5 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 7 || 6 || 10 || 2+/4++&lt;br /&gt;
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The Archangel makes his appearance on the table at last! Sanguinius is a pretty mobile Primarch, as he can use his &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jump Pack&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;Great Wings&#039;&#039;&#039; in both the movement and assault phase, [[Forgeworld|which would be impressive if he didn&#039;t have fleet and could therefore do that anyway]], still he allows all Blood Angels with Jump Packs to do so as well, and also prevents his unit from scattering when he deep strikes. Speaking of buffing nearby squads his sons are so inspired by his &#039;&#039;&#039;Angelic Presence&#039;&#039;&#039; that if they are within 3&amp;quot; they add +d3 wounds to combat resolution. While you&#039;re flying about into combat, you can &#039;&#039;&#039;Sky Strike&#039;&#039;&#039; a unit you moved over, which is a single S6 AP2 vector strike that causes D3 hits on Zooming Flyers and Swooping MCs, making him the only Primarch that can reliably take down a flyer. He rounds out these buffs by making Dawnbreaker Cohorts into troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Raven Guard and Night Lord players are well aware, Primarchs with Jump Packs are very very good at getting the charge, and Sanguinius comes with a host of buffs to make the most of it with a S10 AP2 HoW attack, his &#039;&#039;&#039;Regalia Resplendent&#039;&#039;&#039; providing the 2+/4++ saves that are standard for Primarchs and lets him reroll that Invuln on the charge, being the &#039;&#039;&#039;Sire of the Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; gives him +1 I (to a Fulgrim-tier &#039;&#039;&#039;8&#039;&#039;&#039;) and A on the first turn of combat (so he has Rage and Counter-Attack basically). Not enough for you? Good, you greedy bastard, because if you equip him with the &#039;&#039;&#039;Spear of Telesto&#039;&#039;&#039; he gets &#039;&#039;&#039;+3S&#039;&#039;&#039; on the charge with [[Awesome|Master-Crafted Instant Death AP1 attacks that double if you roll a 6 to wound]], alternatively, if you&#039;re an idiot, you can [[Derp|throw it away]] for ONE SINGLE S7 AP1 armourbane instant death attack at 12&amp;quot;. Sure, if you take the Spear you have a backup MC Duelist Edge (I9 on the charge!) Blinding sword that scores double hits against daemons and psykers, but it&#039;s [[Fail|AP3]], do you really want to leave Papa Sang bouncing off an artificer sergeant?&lt;br /&gt;
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Alternatively, you could equip him with the &#039;&#039;&#039;Blade Encarmine&#039;&#039;&#039; replacing both Telesto and Moonsilver with a S+1 AP2 Shredding sword that also grants Rampage for a possible maximum of &#039;&#039;&#039;11&#039;&#039;&#039; attacks on the charge, putting him on par with Angron with his Butcher&#039;s Nails attacks maxed out. This will likely be slightly overkill most of the time against baseline infantry, while the lack of potential S9 and Instant Death is a huge drawback against both vehicles, monsters and multi-wounded units. Take it if you want Papa Sang to butcher one of his brothers and any cocky motherfuckers with Eternal Warrior, or annihilate anything with a single Wound. Otherwise, go for the Spear of Telesto instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for guns, he&#039;s got that attack with the Spear, frag grenades and a one-shot meltagun that&#039;s assault 2, one that doesn&#039;t even have the Melta rule. That&#039;s it. So make sure he gets stuck in, will you? Also make sure it&#039;s where you want him because he lacks the Hit and Run rule for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Sanguinius VS Other Primarchs====&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying. With that in mind this section is all about how Sanguinius fares against other Primarchs mathhammer wise.  Please note that all the various abilities, with the exception of Blind, are taken into account (Blind is ignored because it is just too random and unreliable to come into play) and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. Also all of the Primarch use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?), so Sanguinius will use the Blade Encarmine except against Angron. Furthermore the math is based on a standing start, which severely gimps Sanguinius as many of his buffs are on the charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times (Talon), wounds 2.667 times, 1.33 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.858 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus wins. Even if Sanguinius gets the charge, the Talon will cripple him in a couple of turns.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times, 1.875 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.54 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4 times (Spear), wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wound at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.5 times, wounds 5.333 times (including HoW), 2.528 after saves and FNP (HoW affected) and IWND will take that down to 2.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times, 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**They kill each other. Well well!&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius wins with the Spear while achieving a mutual kill with the Blade. Negating Angron&#039;s FNP makes the Spear the better weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
** Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 2.417 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.861 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1.5 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.944 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 3 times (Fireblade), wounds 2.333 times (Child of Terra), 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2: hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.722 times, 1.361 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.028 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.859 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius loses (!) as Fulgrim has a chance of killing him in round 5 (5.94 wounds average), and even if not Fulgrim has the higher initiative in round 6.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius can beat Fulgrim by round 5 (5.93 wounds average) while lowering Fulgrim&#039;s own chances, but if he doesn&#039;t Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Ferrus Manus&lt;br /&gt;
** Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 1.042 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.708 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.278 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses, needing 8 rounds whereas Ferrus needs 7.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: On Sanguinius&#039; charge the odds are reversed, with Sanguinius needing 7 rounds whereas Ferrus needs 8.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Curze&lt;br /&gt;
** Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 1.125 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.792 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.787 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.454 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: With the first turn charge, Widowmakers and H&amp;amp;R Curze can achieve a mutual kill in Round 4, however Sanguinius regaining +1I and +1A in Round 3 lets him do 5.89 wounds average &#039;&#039;before Curze attacks&#039;&#039;, so things could go badly for the Batman.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
** Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.611 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: As with Ferrus, Sanguinius wins on the charge.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Lorgar&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 3.889 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 2.881 times, 1.44 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.107 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.444 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 3.959 times (including HoW), 1.979 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.646 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
** Note: As usual, psychic powers not included. You know how it would end anyway...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
** Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times (Forgebreaker), 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Perturabo (with Sanguinius blinded) hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222 times (Forgebreaker), 1.111 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius (blinded): hits 2 times, wounds 1.778 times, 0.593 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.259 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses depending if/when he fails blind checks, even on the charge. He needs to not be Blinded for 2-3 rounds excluding the first to win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
** Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.407 times (HoW affected by Auric Armour), 2.704 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.37 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
** Corax hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3/2.25 times, 1.5/1.125 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.167/0.792 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Scourge)/3.5 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 4.148/3.111 times, 2.765/2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.432/1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.667 times (Scourge)/3.5 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 4.981 times/3.944 times (including HoW), 3.321/2.63 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.988/2.296 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3.556/2.667 times, 2.37/1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.037/1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins, even if Corax Hit &amp;amp; Runs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
** Alpharius hits 2.667 times, wounds 1.701 times, 0.851 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.517 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 2.074 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.741 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.788 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 2.454 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
** Guilliman Rounds 1-3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times (Gladius), 1.111 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Guilliman Round 4: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times (Gladius)/2.778 times (Hand), 1.481/1.389 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.148/1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.824 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 1.491 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 2.537 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 2.204 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.528 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 1.194 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 3+: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.083 wounds after saves (including AoR) and IWND will take that down to 0.75 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Magnus the Red&lt;br /&gt;
** Magnus hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 3.5 times (Blade), wounds 3.111 times, 1.556 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4 times, wounds 4.389 times (including HoW), 2.194 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.861 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wound at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius wins, psychic powers not included.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
** Russ (Axe): hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.917 times, 1.458 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.125 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 2.333 times (Blade), wounds 1.778 times, 1.037 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.703 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 2.667 times, wounds 3.204 times (including HoW), 1.602 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.269 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 2 times, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius loses. Even if he charges, he&#039;s gimped badly in the later rounds by the -1 to hit.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Sanguinius VS Jaghatai Khan&lt;br /&gt;
** Khan hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 3.5 times, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.833 times (including HoW), 1.611 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.278 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius narrowly loses due to the Khan striking first.&lt;br /&gt;
** With the charge Sanguinius will beat the Khan even if he Hit &amp;amp; Runs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TL;DR version: Sanguinius is (un?)surprisingly middling in the duels, the main reason being his bonuses requiring the charge. In fairness, he is mobile enough to get it. His various charge bonuses significantly improve his damage, but more importantly rerolling his saves just once boosts his average (for a Primarch) defense, which is why he distinctly has the charge situation crunched.&lt;br /&gt;
* On the choice of weapons: The Spear of Telesto&#039;s damage skyrockets on the charge, but due to the length of primarch duels the Blade Encarmine overtakes it in a few rounds, especially against 3++. The exception is Angron who is really hurt by Instant Death.&lt;br /&gt;
* Note: The Angel&#039;s Wrath Rite of War gives Sanguinius Hit &amp;amp; Run. With that and the Spear of Telesto, Sanguinius should be able to beat most primarchs. The exceptions are Precog Lorgar and Horus, with Ferrus, Perturabo and Lion close (good defense and varying abilities to neuter H&amp;amp;R).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Promotions}}&lt;br /&gt;
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File:SangSpear.jpg|Alternative model of Papa Sang posing for a Renaissance Art Fair.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Heretic.png|Sanguinius gets the bitches.  All of &#039;em. Every last one.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanginuscool.jpg|Is it time for Sanguinius to choke some bitches again? &#039;&#039;&#039;Hell yes, baby.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Astartesjealousy.jpg| Sanguinius: The most bishie of bishies.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by koowanchee-d484eu4.jpg|Don&#039;t you wish your Primarch was hot like me?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fear to tread.jpg|Sanguinius, only slightly less fabulous than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius1.jpg|He&#039;s fabulous. [[Fulgrim]] wishes he could be that fabulous.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tsundere Ka&#039;Bandha.png|This counts as [[Extra Heresy]].&lt;br /&gt;
File:879E3111-548D-402E-AD3F-AC82158F5EE9.jpeg|Spear or sword? Pick one or he gives you both.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by Syberfab.png|It&#039;s not gay if it&#039;s Sanguinius.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Primarchs}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Angron</title>
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[[File:AngronArtPortrait.jpg|400px|right|thumb|Rare portrait of Angron. Strangely looking like he is holding in a giant fart.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I-I am going to be a storm-a flame-&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I need to fight whole armies alone;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I have ten hearts; I have a hundred arms;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I feel too strong to war with mortals-&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Rip and tear|BRING ME GIANTS]]!|Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I was born in blood, raised in darkness and I shall die free!|Angron, to the Nucerian High Riders and their armies}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|‘I think... when one has been angry for a very long time one gets used to it. And it becomes comfortable, like... like old leather. And finally... it becomes so familiar that one can&#039;t ever remember feeling any other way.’|Captain Jean-Luc Picard, on a man who hated because he would not let himself grieve}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|If the world hates you; keep in mind that it hated me first|John 15:18}}&lt;br /&gt;
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His name is Angron (A.K.A. &#039;&#039;&#039;The Red Angel&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Slave of Nuceria&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Lord of the Red Sands&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Eater of Worlds&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Gladiator King&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Prince of Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Broken One&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re Argel Tal, &#039;&#039;&#039;Angry Ron&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;40Kratos&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Shithead&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re sergeant Gharte, &#039;&#039;&#039;the walking abortion&#039;&#039;&#039; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLYiL_jYPPw if you are Majorkill] &#039;&#039;&#039;That Goddamn Retard&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re [[Leman Russ]]). Cmon, do we really have to spell it out? While his name &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;may be&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; is clearly a play on the word &amp;quot;Anger&amp;quot;, it is possible that his name is based on the Greek word &#039;&#039;Agrion&#039;&#039; which means &amp;quot;Wild&amp;quot; or even &#039;&#039;Agron&#039;&#039;, the Gallic word for &amp;quot;slaughter&amp;quot; (Which pretty much suits him considering he&#039;s the angriest, wildest, mother-fucking mother fucker in a long and extensive history of bipedal mother fuckers). Also, if you spell his name backwards it&#039;s Norgna, which has to count for something. Apparently the inspiration for his name was a corruption of the nickname a bouncer in Nottingham has: Angry Ron.&lt;br /&gt;
What we&#039;re trying to say is, Angron just might be the angriest and the most talented in manly face-to-face fighting son of a bitch in the galaxy. In fact, one time he was so angry about being angry all the time, that the part of him that made him angry exploded in his head, rendering him permanently angry (and also sexually impotent, but don&#039;t let him know that). And then there was that time he was kidnapped by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emprah]], which didn&#039;t help his temper much, and gave him an excuse to fucking RAGE at his dad by joining up with [[Khorne]], Warhammer&#039;s God of Battle, War and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]! Angron just so happens to be [[Primarch]] of the [[World eaters|World Eaters]] and [[Kharn|that swell guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His revered exploits include slaughtering the entire population of a planet within a night; killing an entire contingent of Eldar warriors led by a Farseer when he was only a child; and leading a gladiator rebellion against their slavers and slaughtering 25 other armies sent against them, non-stop, until a huge one made up of seven armies came and fucked their shit up against a dirty rock &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;proving that a seven nation army could hold him back&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt;. The Emperor saved him from dying there (but left all his buddies to die), which was a tremendous blow to his martial pride and among other things, eventually led him to [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]] furiously against the Emperor, believing him a coward devoid of honor. Angron went on to become one of the first Primarchs to side with Horus during the heresy, and was turned into a monstrous, frothing demon-prince by his brother Lorgar. Eventually, Angron joined up with KHORNE, the aforementioned God of War, Murder, Killing, Bloodshed, Weeping Buttholes, Battle and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNkRBowsAmI Here is the theme song of this glorious bastard.]&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
===Early Life===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Angron-art.jpg|300px|right|thumb|You&#039;d be pissed off too if your dad didn&#039;t let you avenge your dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Angron has good reason to be ever-so-slightly miffed: his early life was one big bowl of shit after another. First he crash-landed on his new home [[Nuceria|world]] (because Khorne didn&#039;t give him a soft landing) and had a good chunk of his head torn off in the crash, after which he got jumped by the aforementioned Eldar, then (tired from the killing and the massive brain trauma --keep in mind he was like 6 hours old) got captured and sold into slavery by people with near-Imperial level technology before making him fight as a gladiator for their entertainment. He also appears to have been either the least intelligent of his brothers, or else that head injury he took while crashing did a number on his intellect. For Angron attempted to escape from his captors numerous times even before his implantation with the Nails but somehow was recaptured each time. Remember, these guys were just baseline humans with no outstanding tech aside from a few odds and ends like the Nails. Also keep in mind that more than a few of these attempts occurred when he was fully mature, and thus should have been leagues beyond what even a Custodes would be capable of in terms of physical and mental prowess. The fact that he somehow managed to &#039;&#039;fail&#039;&#039; in repeatedly attempting to escape from a bunch of normal humans is actually far more unbelievable than if he had succeeded.&lt;br /&gt;
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A later retcon revealed he was a decent guy who loved his fellow gladiators, but after an incident where he refused to kill his adoptive father in the arenas, his masters proceeded to replace part of his brain with ARCHAEOTECH SHIT (originally this happened before he fully grew up) that drove him so mad that he murdered his dad regardless, cueing a massive bout of despair. The stuff they stuck in his head would later be called &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;, and, though never fully understood (even after the Emprah&#039;s best techs took a look), they constantly applied pain to his brain and made it so the only time he could feel anything resembling happiness was while murdering shit. It should also be noted that they go from excruciating to normal, and &#039;&#039;do not&#039;&#039; [[Slaanesh|deal with the pleasure centers of the brain.]] In other words, this pertains to actual negative reinforcement in classical conditioning.&lt;br /&gt;
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After years of being a slave, fighting through the gladiator pits and becoming the best of them, Angron eventually set up and led a rebellion, fighting to free his brother and sister gladiators. This would make him 40k&#039;s answer to Spartacus, the same way Curze is 40k Batman. He and the gladiators terrorized the planet&#039;s population for a while, burning down cities and generally making a mess of things. However, due undoubtedly in no small part to the Nails (and the high probability that Angron was a bit of an idiot anyway), he didn&#039;t attack the Nucerian ruling classes with anything approaching a coherent strategy. There was seemingly no plan, only wanton destruction. As a result, the rulers of the various parts of the planet sent their militaries to gang up on Angron&#039;s comparatively ragtag group of about 2000 and after a few years, Angron&#039;s force had been reduced to half and was surrounded by at least seven full scale armies. So he and his buddies were completely screwed, making Angron the only Primarch who failed to conquer his home planet, something that his Legion would end up being more than a little embarrassed by. &lt;br /&gt;
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Around that time, the Emperor showed up, and hashed out a deal with the local planetary government in order to expedite Angron&#039;s capture and win over the planet without any further bloodshed, because there was no point in the Emperor helping his son win a (totally justified) war against a population that had already submitted to compliance. Of course, this deal required the Emperor to take Angron away from the only people who weren&#039;t shitty to him and leaving them all to die; but Big E didn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about those fuckers (and they were all summarily executed, as you would expect in a slave rebellion). Naturally, he didn&#039;t tell Angron any of this, because &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;he couldn&#039;t give less of a shit&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] wanted to make the Emperor look like an ass again. Daddy issues don&#039;t make for bad writing by themselves, but said good writing is harder to write without nuance and depth. Of course, the Emperor could have saved them all or simply kill the local slavers who were, despite compliance, flying in the face of the law of the Great Crusade, give Angron the planet as a recruiting world and take the slaves to his ship to be made into a loyal ass-wrecking rapetrain of AWESOME alongside all the Terran legionnaires. Buuuut we need our dose of our [[Edgy]] [[Grimdark]] here, right?&lt;br /&gt;
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So long story short, the Emperor told Angron he was coming along on the Great Crusade, Angron told him that he would rather die alongside his fellow gladiators, and the Emperor beamed him up onto his ship and left all the other gladiators to die. On the ship, Angron completely lost his shit and started attacking everything around him, managing to kill one of the Custodes before Big E force gripped him into submission and basically told him to get over himself(AD-B, seriously fuck you). After this, Angron was apparently taken back to Terra to be examined by the Emperor and his best tech adepts in the hope of finding a way to fix Angron&#039;s mutilated brain. &lt;br /&gt;
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Back on [[Terra]], the Big E summoned [[Arkhan Land]] to his labs and showed Angron spread out with his skull hacked open &amp;amp; brain exposed on a surgery table, taking a good look at Angron&#039;s fucked-up skull and decided that he was a waste of time and effort, and arrived at the conclusion that even trying to remove them would likely kill him (reference &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot;). The Mechanicus estimated that he wouldn&#039;t live long enough to see the end of the Great Crusade. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is during this procedure that it is revealed just how completely the Nails destroyed Angron, and how thoroughly tortured he would be for the rest of his existence. According to the Emperor in conversation with Arkhan; &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;With the alterations made to the limbic lobe and insular cortex, the surgeons have impaired the Twelfth’s ability to regulate any emotion at all. Furthermore, they have rethreaded its capacity to take pleasure in anything but the sensation of anger. They are the only chemicals and electrical signals that flow freely through, and from, its brain. All else is either dulled to nothingness or rewired to inspire a supreme degree of agony. It is a testament to the durability of my primarch project that the Twelfth has managed to survive this long.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;His own emotions cause him pain?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;No, Arkhan. Everything. Everything causes it pain. Thinking. Feeling. Breathing. The only respite it has is in the rewired neurological pleasure it receives from the chemicals of anger and aggression.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Aaand it gets worse. The Emperor then reveals a few moments later that Angron&#039;s limbic and insular lobes had been straight up removed and replaced with parts of the Nails. This essentially meant that Angron would not have been capable of feeling empathy or compassion, and it would have completely restructured his ability to link behaviors to outcomes (ie this behavior makes me feel good vs this behavior makes me feel bad). Even his sense of self awareness and IQ would have been affected, which would go far in explaining quite a lot of straight up retarded crap he would go on to do. So essentially the slave masters of Nuceria took away his compassion, his empathy, his emotional control, his intelligence, and his ability to learn or feel anything pleasant outside of aggression. Oh, and left him in constant agony whenever he wasn&#039;t angry. Scratch the Emperor being a dick for not removing the Nails, He was more of a dick for not just putting Angron down then and there (though the fact He refers to Angron only as &amp;quot;Twelfth&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; is shown the Emprah is not too hot on compassion, at least as far as Angron seems to be concerned). The most tragic part of it all was that apparently Angron was quite the bro-tier Primarch before the Nails were implanted. He even had the ability to empathically soothe the pain of others by taking it upon himself (almost certainly some latent psychic ability), and he very often did just that for his fellow slaves. So on top of everything else, the Nails completely destroyed Angron&#039;s personality, taking him from a potentially Vulkan level nice guy and lowering him to Perturabo levels of barbarity. To top it all off, the Nails had been designed for use on baseline humans. As a Primarch, Angron&#039;s brain was not only far more complex than that of an ordinary human, but had the capacity for wholescale regeneration. This would only cause him more problems however, as the damaged or missing parts of his brain attempted to regenerate around the Nails. It was believed that this process would eventually cause him to lose all ability to control himself, and that he would become little more than a rabid animal as some of his legionaries would later demonstrate. At that point, is was almost certain that he would manage to get himself killed in one way or another. &lt;br /&gt;
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Considering that later during the Horus Heresy, &#039;&#039;&#039;Menes Kalliston&#039;&#039;&#039; of the [[Thousand Sons]] was fairly certain that their [[psyker]]-medics could figure out how to remove them from [[Khârn|a certain swell guy]], it is possible that the Emperor - being the most intelligent person in the [[Imperium]] and the most powerful psyker ever - &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;could&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; have achieved it if He put some resources into it (especially since at least one AdMech replaced everything, including his brain with machine parts); or it&#039;s equally likely the Thousand Son space marine was just stalling because he had an insane psycho-killer moments away from killing him breathing down his neck. It is however, far more likely that the Nails implanted into the World Eaters were not so difficult to remove as Angron&#039;s would have been. Entire vital parts of Angron&#039;s brain had been removed and replaced with the crude cybernetics of the Nails, whereas the World Eaters&#039; Nails were knockoffs which were simply added on to their existing brain tissue. Because of Angron&#039;s brain being a half-cybernetic mess, both the Emperor and Arkhan believed that the Nails were, ironically, the only reason Angron was still alive. If they were removed, Angron&#039;s brain would likely have simply ceased to function. Additionally, attempting to replace parts of a Primarch is almost certainly a borderline-impossible task, particularly if that part is a brain. The Primarchs were not just flesh and blood, but creatures of the warp incarnated by the Emperor&#039;s genecraft. Whatever the Emperor did to create them, He clearly could not just do it on a whim as He could with Custodes or Astartes. There were only ever 20 ([[Omegon|21]]) of them and even when two were erased from history mid-Crusade, they were not replaced. The Emperor also never seemed to consider the possibility of making more of them after the initial scattering when they were presumed dead, despite the massive blow that killing all 20 Primarchs would have dealt to his plans. &lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless however, Arkhan described the Emperor as being &amp;quot;inhumanly toneless&amp;quot; when speaking of Angron, and as being &amp;quot;passionlessly interested&amp;quot; in the surgical nightmare that Angron had become. Whether this is due to Him genuinely not caring or simply being too far beyond Arkhan for His attitude to be understood properly is up for debate. Rather strangely, the Emperor appeared to have been unusually callous when it came to Angron in particular, as even Primarchs like Konrad Curze, Perturabo and Mortarion were shown at least &#039;&#039;some&#039;&#039; level of love and interest from Him. However Angron, for whatever reason, was disregarded almost entirely. Regarding this anomaly, it is worth noting that Angron was the only Primarch who did not end up ruling his native planet. The other Primarchs either conquered theirs or used their charisma and intelligence to work their way up the hierarchy of whatever planet they landed on (or both). Angron failed to do either, and was on the verge of being slaughtered along with his army when the Emperor came for him. Perhaps this failure is why the Emperor seemed so uniquely disinterested in him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As it is, the Emperor was told that Angron would likely not see the the end of the crusade, and thus took the dumbest option available to Him: do nothing to mitigate the effects, do nothing to change how much Angron hated him, and throw him into warzones after giving him a massive force and assume that it would never come back to haunt him. Could He have saved Angron? Perhaps, should he have the occasion to put his entire undivided attention to it. But with Him busy with the demands of the Imperium, powering the [[Astronomican]] and trying to get the Human Webway online the Emperor seemingly did not want to sink the extra time and resources into saving one of His Primarchs.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Preheresy-world-eaters.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Angron back when the Great Crusade was still a thing. Along with [[Kharn|that swell guy]] on his right and [[Lotara Sarrin|the angriest, most heterosexual woman in existence]] on his left.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|You kept that mule Kor Phaeron. Russ kept his kin-friends. The Lion kept Luther. Humans - brothers and foster fathers - saved and raised into Legion ranks. But not me. Not Angron, no. Did the Emperor teleport his gold-wrapped Custodians down to help me and my army? No. Did he free the War Hounds and order them to battle, fight alongside me? No. Did he save my brothers and sisters the way he spared the Lion’s closest kin? No, no, and no. No mercy for Angron. Angron the Oathbreaker. Angron the Betrayer.| Angron explains his anger towards the Emperor to Lorgar, during one of his more calm moments.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, when Angron was introduced to his legion he was inconsolable. He ended up hacking apart the legion captains until Khârn (who was actually much further down the list of command, having risen up the ladder thanks to several of his superiors&#039; untimely ends) managed to talk some sense into his father. Though bearing in mind the Emperor had already let [[Perturabo]] dispassionately decimate 10% of an &#039;&#039;entire legion&#039;&#039;, Angron killing some captains in an emotional meltdown is small potatoes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, [[Kharn]] successfully talks some sense into him, and Angron renamed his legion &#039;&#039;World Eaters&#039;&#039;, a name you might recognize translates to &#039;&#039;fucking savage&#039;&#039; in the common tongue. Angron&#039;s old army of gladiators whom he&#039;d led to freedom and been denied death alongside them was known as &amp;quot;the eaters of cities&amp;quot; on [[Nuceria]]. So, as Dreagher, a Terran-born War Hounds legionary who served as Captain of the Legion&#039;s 9th Company, described it: &#039;&#039;from then on, they would no longer be the War Hounds, but Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;eaters of worlds&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron then replicated the Butcher&#039;s Nails technology on his legionaries, despite the Empy&#039;s warnings and how much he hated the source of the Nails, his old masters - &amp;lt;s&amp;gt; which adds a little hypocritical spice to his complaints about how the Nails ruined his life, given that he did the same thing to other people for no fucking reason when given the chance. Perhaps Angron wanted his sons to feel the same pain he experienced since he would never be able to remove the goddamn thing from his brain and it pissed him off that his own flesh and blood did not suffer as he did.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; More likely he was desperately trying to emulate his blood brothers and sisters in the pits since they were the only ones to give a shit (plus Lorgar). Even in spite of being the first legionary to GIT SOME, [[Kharn|that swell guy]] became Angron&#039;s &#039;cool headed&#039; equerry. Ironic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Nails also negatively interacted with psykers, killing Librarians who tried to get them installed (blowing holes in spaceships and taking down entire squads of space marines in the process as their altered brain chemistry made it impossible for them to control their abilities anymore). Also merely being near a psyker made other Legionaries feel... &#039;&#039;uncomfortable&#039;&#039; (described as &#039;&#039;ticking&#039;&#039; by Kharn). Angron personally took this to eleven, hating psykers for the additional pain they brought - with the  strange exception of Lorgar &amp;amp; the Emperor, who seemed not to trigger that effect. Still, the whole Butcher&#039;s Nails thing is actually quite tragic (could the fact that even being psykers caused pain to everyone implanted with the nails indicate that they were not just archeotech, but technology corrupted by Khorne who hates psykers? And even the daemon primarch still has them implanted...all the implications). In &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot; Argel Tal asks Kharn why the World Eaters allowed themselves to be mutilated so, to which Kharn replies that they thought it would bring them closer to their father. Argel Tal continues asking if it worked, and Kharn sadly mutters to himself &amp;quot;no, it didn&#039;t&amp;quot;. So, before Erebus made sure that Kharn would become the RAAAAAAGE train we know in 40k by killing Argel Tal (in the same novel), because - as Erebus put it - his damned humanity would have spared Kharn this fate (because becoming a berzerk psychopathic killer is so much more awesome than staying sane) he appears to be regretting this decision - at least at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:World Eaters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Angron and his World Eaters, pre-heresy and pre-[[daemon prince]] in a rare state of tranquility standing on top of [[grimdark|a pile made of snow and dead bodies]]. It&#039;s hard to calm down when there&#039;s nails in your brain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Great Crusade, the World Eaters were known as the Imperium&#039;s butcher force. Their arrival or even just the threat of their arrival in a system was enough to make non-compliant Imperial worlds surrender, lest they be completely and utterly be butchered by the Red Angel and his sons - which only made it easier for the World Eaters to butcher them. They were typically unleashed in situations where the Imperium really didn&#039;t care about collateral damage. For where the Space Wolves and Dark Angels, the other two extermination legions of the Imperium, could be controlled, the World Eaters simply could not be. Angron ordered his sons to complete every single conquest and compliance action in thirty-one hours, since he and his gladiator army had once destroyed an entire city on Nuceria in the same span of time. When and if they failed, he mocked them for being inadequate and ordered them to [[Perturabo|decimate themselves]], it apparently not having occurred to him that it&#039;s a little harder to take down an entire planet than it is one city, even if you are a Space Marine legion (remember, not the brightest of his brothers). Things were getting so bad that some of the World Eaters&#039; senior officers were considering going to the Emperor for help, at least until the Nails became a thing and they stopped caring about anything beyond RIP AND TEAR. One of them even talked back to Angron on the subject, which caused him to RAEG the fuck out and start killing his own sons again until some of the Librarians knocked him out.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also had a run in with [[Leman Russ]] at some point, just after the XII Legion started getting their brains Nailed. Russ came to Angron after having heard reports that the World Eaters were increasingly just bathing in blood, instead of bringing worlds to compliance. Angron wasn&#039;t as brain-damaged as he would be later, so he asked if Russ had come on order of the Emperor. Russ grudgingly had to admit he wasn&#039;t; this wasn&#039;t an execution ordered by the Emperor (yet) and he privately didn&#039;t want it to become one in the future. So he went on saying that implanting Angron&#039;s legionaries with the Nails had to stop and that they&#039;d be brought to Terra so a way of removing them could be devised (so he basically told Angron to sort his shit out and stop mutilating his sons). But we all know how good Russ is with people and generally &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;just liked throwing his weight around&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. In more seriousness, this is one of the cases where Russ really, genuinely wanted to help one of his brothers, having had his own bouts with [[rage|irresistible murderous intent]] to deal with. Additionally, it is heavily implied that the two missing Primarchs met their end at Russ&#039;s hands on orders from the Emperor. Russ was not a fan of his role as being the Emperor&#039;s personal Judge Dredd as would later be demonstrated by the fact that he pleaded Lorgar&#039;s case (of all people) to the Emperor when He was considering 86ing the Word Bearers. Russ&#039;s approach sadly [[fail|wasn&#039;t well thought out]]. Though to be fair Angron wasn&#039;t exactly diplomatic either, telling Russ that the Nails were the only thing that kept him going, that the EMPRA was just another slaver (and that bringing &amp;quot;compliance&amp;quot; to worlds was just a way of candycoating enslaving worlds which merely had wished to be left alone), and that without the Nails he might go to Big.E and chop &amp;quot;the slaving bastard&#039;s&amp;quot; head off. Ironically enough Angron had a solid point with the former argument, but the very suggestion of turning against Emps basically made Russ [[rage|lose what remained of his cool on the spot]] with the result one would expect.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Angron, lord of the locker room.jpg|thumb|right|A Remembrancer&#039;s sketch of the duel between Angron and Leman Russ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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There was a brief skirmish between the two Legions (an event which would come to be known as the &amp;quot;Night of the Wolf&amp;quot;) where Angron fought Leman Russ in personal combat. [[Rape|He made him his personal bitch]] until he was outmaneuvered by the Space Wolves troops and surrounded, isolated from his World Eaters who were just like their father putting up one hell of a fight and hurt on the Wolves but being slowly separated and isolated from each other. Russ then tried to make his point a second time; that Angron&#039;s berserker rage made him and his Legion lose sight of the larger tactical and strategic objectives and that Russ had deliberately lured him into a position where he could be gunned down with a snap of Russ fingers. Angron refused to acknowledge his losing position since he was the one holding the weapon at his brother&#039;s throat and that killing EVERYONE should be the only objective anyway. Russ might be very well holding the proverbial gun to his temple, but it was only worth anything if he was willing to pull the trigger. Which at that point Russ wasn&#039;t, so Angron completely ignored him. Yet, surprisingly, Angron did not press his attack either and both Primarchs separated and went their own way. But, as time would show, the nails had a degrading effect on Angron&#039;s ability to hold back and remain coherent, so maybe that&#039;s your answer right there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron was certain of his victory that day and didn&#039;t give the incident any more thought, the Nails stayed with him and his Legion. In the end, though, Leman Russ was right: Angron&#039;s failure to learn and control his murderous rage would be amply demonstrated and only become worse with time. At the tail end of the Great Crusade when he butchered a whole city which had just surrendered, on Isstvan III when he sabotaged Horus&#039; clean [[Exterminatus]] by going down to rip the loyalists apart personally, and on Nuceria where he ordered every living being killed. But what’s truly sad is that Lorgar actually did seemingly succeed where Russ had failed in teaching the lesson of the Night of the Wolf years later. Weirdly, he did this by simply telling Angron in no uncertain terms that Russ had won and why, and for whatever reason Angron&#039;s previous retardation dawned on him this time. In the case of Lorgar&#039;s explanation, not being in the middle of a fight to the death (at least as far as Agron was concerned) probably helped with regard to Angron&#039;s perceptiveness (fewer MURDERMURDERKILLKILL impulses from the Nails). Additionally, on their way to Nuceria during Angron’s last weeks as a human, he actually seemed to be trying to open himself up a little more to his legion by joining them in watching pit fights and hanging out with them during feasts, all of which was rendered too little too late by what went down when they reached their destination.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Daemon-Angron HHST.png|400px|thumb|right|Angron during the [[Siege of Terra]], about to give the defenders a very bad day]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Horus decided to rebel, Angron was one of the initial Primarchs to join him, along with Fulgrim and Mortarion. Why is not particularly hard to guess; he already hated the Emperor&#039;s guts like practically no other Primarch (with the possible exception of Curze, though even he managed to come to terms before his death with his father), and considered the Crusade to be little better than a galaxy-spanning slavery endeavor. How this concern jives with him being one of the Crusade&#039;s most prominent butchers is somewhat strange but his brain probably resembled a scrambled egg more than anything else at this point. A little cognitive dissonance was the absolute least of his problems. &lt;br /&gt;
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On that note, Angron kicked off his contribution to the Heresy in a characteristically retarded fashion. When the firestorm on Isstvan died down, it became apparent that large numbers of Loyalists had survived. Said survivors immediately hit the vox-casters and began demanding answers/hurling insults up at the orbiting fleet, outraged and grief stricken that they had been betrayed by their own Primarchs. Horus disregarded this and prepared to initiate a second virus bombing. Angron however, was not quite so thick skinned. Hearing the howled insults of his own Loyalist World Eaters (which more than likely included some cutting one-liners and yo-dead-gladiator-crew jokes), Angron flew into a rage and deployed onto the planet his legion. When he learned of this, Horus was so furious that he seriously considered proceeding with the virus bombing regardless of Angron&#039;s presence planetside. However the Warmaster then took a few moments to collect himself and attempted to salvage the situation. If he backed Angron&#039;s ground assault, his troops would get some experience fighting other Astartes, and Angron would see that Horus was willing to give him freedoms that the Emperor had not. Sadly for Horus, Angron&#039;s decision ended up being one of the biggest mistakes of the heresy, as the Traitors ended up losing over half of their attacking force over a period of 3 months. To add insult to injury, Horus eventually decided that he was losing too many assets trying to break the Loyalists on the ground. So he had Angron physically wrestled back up into orbit (as Angron wouldn&#039;t leave any other way), and used his fleet to simply glass the entire planet&#039;s surface. &lt;br /&gt;
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Angron was much more handy on Isstvan V, wreaking all sorts of carnage in the [[Dropsite Massacre]]. Ironically his presence there hardly mattered considering how thoroughly boned the Loyalists had been to begin with, but having one more supremely capable beat-stick to hit one&#039;s foes with is always nice. When Horus and the other Traitor Primarchs departed, Angron stayed behind to hunt down the surviving Raven Guard who&#039;d escaped with Corax. Despite the Raven Guard&#039;s supreme sneakiness, they eventually ran out of places to run and hide, and Angron was only hours away from finding and butchering the lot of them. Fortunately for the beleaguered birds, a group of Raven Guard reserves rocked up from Deliverance and managed to rescue Corax and most of his men, leaving Angron behind and even more beside himself with fury than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lorgar then roped Angron into his Shadow Crusade, systematically butchering worlds across Ultramar to invoke the Ruinstorm. Initially, this was a campaign with mixed success: the two Legions nearly fought in the void before an Eldar fleet tried to destroy Angron, and the World Eaters wiped out several worlds which Lorgar had wanted to skip. The Word Bearers were nearly driven to despair by the World Eaters&#039; degradation, and Lorgar began to worry that Angron couldn&#039;t see how he was degenerating - and there was only one way that could end. Still, Lorgar wanted to save Angron, although in his case &amp;quot;save&amp;quot; meant &amp;quot;transfigure into a daemon Primarch without asking&amp;quot;. Angron was, according to Horus and Lorgar, the only Primarch besides Horus himself that could potentially be able to successfully take on Sanguinius in full rage mode (though Russ and The Lion would probably give them a run for their money if fighting to kill and judging from recent lore, Sanguinius would wipe the floor with him), which at that point was basically the only use Horus had for him. To do that, Lorgar led Angron back to his shitty home planet [[Nuceria]]. There, Angron returned to the site of his followers&#039; final battle, now little more than an open-air graveyard filled with the bones of his compatriots. This caused Angron to fall into a deep depression, which only lasted until he had the misfortune to be told he had fled that final battle. Needless to say, hearing this caused him to go completely berserk, and he ordered his legion to slaughter every fucking thing on the planet faster than an [[Exterminatus|inquisitorial cyclonic torpedo bombardment]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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The arrival of Guilliman&#039;s forces delayed its inevitable doom for a little while, and Angron had an epic showdown with [[Roboute Guilliman]] when he helped [[Lorgar]] in fighting big boy blue. Guilliman called Angron out to which the Red Angel replied as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?&amp;quot; [...] &amp;quot;The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Guilliman ended up getting beaten so badly he had to crawl away on hands and knees (though to be fair to him he put up one hell of a fight, especially considering that half his face was missing), but not before throwing back a pretty scathing retort of his own:&lt;br /&gt;
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The irony is Angron was right all along about Emperor being a dick, as Roboute realized on Terra ten thousand years later. But in all seriousness, both of them had a point. True, Guilliman had it comparatively easy and could have turned out massively different had his life not been so cushy. But Angron&#039;s rage over &#039;&#039;his&#039;&#039; admittedly-shitty life, worsened by his unwillingness to move on from the loss of his old comrades or accept his Legion as being his new family and compounded further still by not even trying to rise above his upbringing, had consumed his soul and didn&#039;t exactly let him off the hook for turning his entire legion into murder machines despite constantly blaming the Butcher&#039;s Nails for ruining his life. &lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Angron of all people attempting to lecture anyone about the concept of honor is hypocrisy of the highest form. Even Konrad Curze, arguably the most terrifyingly barbaric Primarch, had a logical reason behind his brutality before he completely lost his mind. Angron never had a reason for killing, and he never needed one. He spilt blood just for the sake of it, annihilating entire planetary systems simply for the lulz. Whatever honor Angron once might have had, he had tossed it aside long ago in the name of satiating his hatred. At the time of his confrontation with Guilliman, he was little more than a rabid dog; his brains in the final stages of degradation via the Nails. He was essentially already a Khorne devotee in all but name and aspect; the sick daemon form he would soon receive was just an aesthetic cherry on top.&lt;br /&gt;
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What made it worse was that the Nails themselves, as it turned out, could actually be overcome. As demonstrated by Arrian Zorzi, a renegade WE Apothecary who threw his lot in with [[Fabius Bile]] and eventually became his 2nd in command of [[The Consortium (Warhammer 40,000)|The Consortium]], and who likes (evil) gardening: a highly disciplined mind could control the aggression of the Nails. Which meant that, in yet another tragic twist of irony, Angron might have been able to save himself if he had simply not given over so completely to despair and spite. On the other hand, the cruder copy implanted in World Eaters legionnaires might be easier to overcome than the genuine article, and Zorzi is (so far) a unique case.    &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, during their duel Guilliman shattered one of the skulls of Angron&#039;s rebel followers that he had carried with him (and whom he had promised to die alongside with... until the EMPRA abducted him. Angron himself said to Lorgar in &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot; that he died on Nuceria), which obviously drove Angron to an entire new level of despair, allowing for Lorgar to capitalize on that emotion to fuel Angron&#039;s ascension into a daemon primarch. There were even 19 World Eater librarians, that had tried to prevent their primarch&#039;s ascension forming a gestalt warhound, pulling Angron&#039;s soul from one end, while Lorgar as well as some daemons pulled at it from the other, like children fighting over a doll. In the end, Lorgar - being the more powerful psyker -  defeated the Librarians, and turned Angron into the Daemon Primarch we all know and love; his first act upon ascension was to immediately slaughter the Librarians. Guilliman ended up suffering a grievous wound, but escaped the planet, which was rendered devoid of all life by the World Eaters, and had its records erased by the Imperium of Man.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that one or two battles beforehand a Warhound Scout Titan tried to step on Lorgar after the Aurelian had taken two discharges of the the titan&#039;s main plasma weapon and was badly hurt (to the point of almost being mortally wounded) in the process. Angron stepped in to save his brother, catching the titan&#039;s foot and setting a new world record in squat weightlifting, keeping the titans weight suspended above himself through his sheer strength and RAGE, enabling Lorgar - who was almost dead at this point - to escape (meanwhile Ferrus Manus could punch THROUGH REAVERS and doubtless would have found this adorable). And this was after digging his way up through 200+ feet of solid debris, after being warned by WE Librarians he had been digging &#039;downwards&#039;, and with Lorgar teleporting from orbit to help excavating the XIIth Primarch (while Lorgar simultaneously destroyed several Ultramarine Thunderhawks with telekinetically hurled building debris which Angron had been buried under). Of course, after this the relationship between the two primarchs became pretty remarkable, and Lorgar ended up repaying the favor by arranging for Angron&#039;s ascension to daemonhood during their fight with Guilliman. At first Lorgar thought that Guilliman was ruining the &amp;quot;song&amp;quot; and finally understood that Guilliman had never hated or looked down on him until the Heresy (and the destruction of Calth) - actually distracting Lorgar for a moment as he realized that he had misunderstood his brother all along - At the end though, when Guilliman was about to gain the upper hand Angron emerged and engaged the XIII Primarch. At this very moment (topped off by Guilliman stepping on one of the aforementioned skulls) the &amp;quot;song&amp;quot; fell back in tune, and Lorgar could finish the incantation.&lt;br /&gt;
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After this, the World Eaters &#039;&#039;somehow&#039;&#039; managed to get Angron back aboard his flagship, but were at a bit of a loss as to what to do with him afterwards. Obviously having a blood crazed Daemon Primarch living in one&#039;s basement was not exactly ideal even for the World Eaters. So initially they attempted to restrain Angron, but there was literally nothing they could do to keep him contained. Any cell block or restraining device they used on him he simply turned to scrap the instant it started annoying him. And yet, Angron never once actually attempted to leave the part of the ship in which he&#039;d made his lair. He had developed crippling bipolar tendencies, and where his manic phase embodied the champion of raw murder we all know and love, his depressive phase was so utterly &#039;&#039;dead inside&#039;&#039; it makes [[Isha]] look cheery in comparison. He spent most of his free time cowering in a corner, calling out for the Emperor or just crying himself to sleep. This only made the World Eaters &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; terrified of him, as he could rampage through the ship at a moment&#039;s notice and they wouldn&#039;t be able to stop him. Only Kharn was able (or willing) to talk to Angron, and even Kharn knew he was risking death each time he did so; it would literally only depend on whether or not he caught Angron in a bad mood. &lt;br /&gt;
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Kharn&#039;s conversations with Angron revealed yet another sad development for the Primarch, which was that becoming a daemon had caused him to develop a sort of dementia. He had to be verbally prodded by Kharn to remember certain places, people, and events, and Kharn was not always successful in doing so. Even his past as a gladiator or his adoptive father were hit-or-miss in terms of whether or not he could recall them. His entire sense of self had become lost to Khorne, and he swung from sapient being to bloodthirsty beast with seemingly no control over who he was as any given moment. He also became completely dependent on bloodshed to maintain his link to the mortal realm, and could only last a few weeks without planetary scale butchery to keep him tethered. As such, the World Eaters were forced to divert into any populated system they could find as they travelled towards Terra just to keep Angron in the material plane. He was also the only Daemon Primarch who, in yet another grim irony, never got any say in becoming a daemon- even [[Magnus the Red]] did not ascend before first rejecting the Emperor&#039;s offer of forgiveness. So he went from being a slave to the Nucerians, to being a slave to the Emperor, to being a slave to Khorne, forced to fight for all three without ever having any choice and now he could not even rebel. He&#039;s basically 40k&#039;s Butt-Monkey at this point. Angron&#039;s transformation into a Daemon also caused the World Eaters to develop an unmatched hatred for the Word Bearers for so thoroughly destroying their gene-father. Kharn in particular was furious about this in his comparatively lucid moments, as being the only person who Angron wouldn&#039;t immediately kill gave him front row seat to witness the completely broken, miserable monster Angron had ultimately become. &lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly thereafter, Horus sent Perturabo to go collect Angron and his now completely degenerated legion for use at the Siege of Terra. As stated previously, the World Eaters had needed to stop every time they found a populated system in order to shed the blood necessary to keep Angron in the material realm. But they were getting too sidetracked in doing so, and Horus hadn&#039;t been able to talk them into hurrying up. Upon confronting the World Eaters, the Iron Warriors absolutely wrecked their maniacal brothers, ironically by doing the same sort of thing that the Space Wolves had so many years ago during the Night of the Wolf. Instead of allowing the World Eaters to engage them in close combat, the Iron Warriors initially shot only the daemons amongst the World Eaters, and then largely attempted to trap or disable the World Eaters where possible. The point was both to deny them combat, and thus power, and obviously to round them up for the Siege. Angron himself confronted Perturabo, and as with their respective legionnaires, Pert shoved Angron&#039;s shit in by simply having a brain. After getting blasted into pasta sauce by a group of Iron Warriors, Angron jumped into melee with Perturabo and heavily damaged his armor. Perturabo got in a decent counter-hit or two, but even with Forgebreaker in hand, he was ultimately no match for Angron in melee combat.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Perturabo had one weapon that Angron did not; the power of spiteful mockery (seems to be something of a weakness amongst the Daemon Primarchs; Mortarion got the same treatment later from the Khan, and Fulgrim from Rylanor). He repeatedly insulted Angron as being a weak, pitiful slave who had sold his strength out of despair, and had become &#039;&#039;weaker&#039;&#039; as a result. Of course, Angron hadn&#039;t actually chosen to become a daemon at all, but Perturabo clearly either didn&#039;t know or didn&#039;t care. The lack of slaughter (and possibly the insults) drained Angron of much of his power, allowing Perturabo and the Iron Circle to start shooting the shit out of him with (heavily implied to be) anti-Daemon rounds. The very first [[Obliterator]], Volk, then added a fusillade of his own to the mix. The assault of Perturabo and Volk, combined with the Iron Warriors having denied the World Eaters their tithe of blood, weakened Angron to the point where he could no longer fight. Perturabo took the opportunity to mock Angron a bit more, and then waltzed over to him and unceremoniously knocked him out with a single blow from Forgebreaker. After this, he collected his recalcitrant brother and his legion and packed them up to head for Terra. (The fact Perturabo accomplished all this while sustaining minimal casualties shows how impressive his track-record during the Great Crusade could&#039;ve been if he actually gave a damn.)&lt;br /&gt;
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===41st Millennium===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Angrondemon.jpg|300px|thumb|Even in daemonhood, they &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; can&#039;t get the Nails out. Fucking Archeotech was built to &#039;&#039;last&#039;&#039;!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Angron has done far more shit than all the other Daemon Primarchs put together. Instead of sitting around [[Fulgrim|being a painting on some Chaos God&#039;s wall]], sitting around [[Mortarion|being a rotting fatass and feeling sorry for themselves]], sitting around [[Magnus the Red|yelling just as planned anytime anything happens]], sitting around [[Lorgar|preaching constantly]], [[Horus|being]] [[Alpharius|(Maybe)]] [[Konrad Curze|dead]], or [[Primarch#Two Missing Primarchs|being missing]]; Angron actually gets shit done and boy howdy when he [[rage]]s his way out of the eye of terror he makes sure that everyone knows about it...by tearing &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; that gets in his way a new one until he finally gets thrown back into the warp by drowning in a quadrillion metric fucktons of [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Guardsmen]], [[Planetary Defense Force | Planetary Defense Force soldiers]], [[Space Marines|Spehss Mehreens]], [[Witch Hunters]], [[Sisters of Battle|Bolter Bitches]], [[Titan|Titans]], [[Stormtrooper|Inquisitorial Stormtroopers]], [[Daemonhunters]], and [[Grey Knights]], but to be fair, everyone kind of does that when the Imperium &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;finishes the paperwork needed to&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; retaliates. &lt;br /&gt;
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This was of course before The Gathering Storm, whereupon Magnus personally attacked [[Fenris]] and laid waste to much of the planet and destroyed a lot of gene-seed, proving that [[Tzeentch]] can get shit done too. Then in 8th edition Mortarion waged [[Plague Wars]] against [[Ultramar]] and established the [[Scourge Stars]] systems in M42. Also it should be noted that Fulgrim has been free of that painting for a while now, but otherwise he still fits in the above category.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also slaughtered his way throughout Imperial Space for over a century with 50,000 World Eater [[Khorne Berzerkers|Berzerker]]s and destroyed/maimed/killed/burned/broke the backs of/split open/fucked 70 sectors. However, in a subsequent Imperial offensive, Angron was banished to the warp and his men routed. This strike force comprised 2 Titan Legions, &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; 4 full Spess Mehreen chapters and over 30 Imperial Guard regiments to do that, so it&#039;s suffice to say that the counterattack put up quite a fight against the superior force. But to be fair, Angron&#039;s force was only comprised of close combat heavy infantry without ranged support or artillery.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later on, he showed up with an even bigger force to attack Armageddon. The Imperium responded in kind, sending in one hundred [[Grey Knights|Grey Knight Terminators]], and all but ten of them died fighting Angron and his Bloodthirster posse(and only because their prodigy Librarian Hyperion managed to shatter his sword, and he STILL managed to murder their leader with just his bare fists). He is armed with a really huge fucking chainaxe that&#039;s taller than him with chainswords for the chainteeth of the chainaxe. He&#039;s also got a storm bolter, but we wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that fired chainswords as well. Fittingly enough, it was called &#039;Godtearer&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Strangely, as seen in the picture above, he also still has the Butchers Nails stuck in his head. This should be completely impossible as Angron technically speaking doesn&#039;t have a body anymore (he&#039;s 100% warp energy now), and the Nails are technological in nature. He&#039;s also been blasted into paste on numerous occasions and forcibly dematerialized into the warp on a number of others, which means that the Nails seemingly regenerate along with the rest of him. The most likely explanation is that, as a daemon, he is at least partially shaped by the mortal perception of him, and the Nails are a big part of his story to anyone with high enough clearance to know his name. If that is true, then he actually is finally free of the Nails and the wires and bits poking out of his skull are just his way of making sure no one confuses him with [[Doombreed]] or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also wrote something called the &#039;&#039;&#039;Clotted Scrolls&#039;&#039;&#039; somewhere along the line, though precisely what wisdom he wrote (probably in blood) in there is unknown (maybe methods on how to [[rip and tear]] more effectively?).&lt;br /&gt;
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==In video games==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, he has appeared in only one of the official games, which greatly displeases [[Khorne]]. However, in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for [[Dawn of War]], he takes the place of the Chaos Daemons&#039; &amp;quot;game-ending win button&amp;quot; unit - and he&#039;s a walking rapetrain that can [[Awesome|obliterate buildings with a single hit, take out Titans in three, make himself invincible, and summon a retinue of Bloodthirsters]]. He can also be almost unkillable by exploiting a bug which lets him instantly refill his morale, which gives him disturbingly fast health regeneration. Too bad you&#039;ll almost never use him. He costs so many relic points in an army that consumes them like candy that, if you can spare the points and time to conjure him, chances are you&#039;re already winning so badly you don&#039;t actually need him. Seriously, for the same number of points it takes to conjure Angron you could just build 5-6 Helldrakes or an equal amount of Bloodthirsters, and keep in mind Chaos Daemons need the same resource for anything greater than lesser Daemons. If you&#039;re not spending them on other units you need &#039;&#039;right now&#039;&#039; then you can just overwhelm them with what you already have. Essentially the definition of &amp;quot;awesome but impractical&amp;quot;, but sweet jesus is it truly awesome to watch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron shows up in the Horus Heresy:Legions card game, being one of the best warlords, and in keeping with his character he has to attack every turn.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
====1E====&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Angron:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 400 || 9 || 5 || 7 || 6 || 5 || 7 || 6 || 10 || 3+/4++&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Angaron.jpg|300px|right|thumb|WHY IS HE BEATING UP HIS OWN LEGION said everyone on Istvaan III. Proof that Angron was actually a Loyalist Primarch. Don&#039;t believe the Chaos lies!]] &lt;br /&gt;
Obviously one of the strongest Primarchs in the game when it comes to close combat, aside from his stats Angron has a 3+ armor (weak for a demigod), 4+ invulnerable, FNP (the full rule since the 02/11/2019 errata) the Primarch rule and Hatred, so he gets to re-roll to-hit rolls on the first turn of any combat, while also having Armourbane and dealing Instant Death on to wound roll of 6, in case S8-9 doesn&#039;t instagib anything right away. Thanks to the Butcher&#039;s Nails he will gain 1 bonus attack (up to 10) for every Independent Character or Infantry unit he kills/destroys in close combat (But he must be the one to give the fatal blow/remove the last model to pick up this bonus) and he can also challenge as many times as there are Independent Characters and units in combat with him thanks to the Red Sands rule, assuring he will at least pick up some extra attacks during the course of the game. &lt;br /&gt;
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The obvious downsides are that, aside from butchering things in melee, Angron cannot do anything: he doesn&#039;t buff his army in any way aside 12&amp;quot; aura of Fearless, while other Primarchs bestow significant buffs to their armies, and of course he is one of the (if not THE) most fragile of the Primarchs, having only 5 wounds and 3+/4++. Having FNP 5+ doesn&#039;t fully compensate against mass fire but makes him actually more resilient than most of his brothers against AP2 attacks. So all in all he&#039;s much like Kharn on steroids: you reach melee - you&#039;re king, you get your transport blown up and then get kited across the table - you&#039;re fucked. The other problem he shares with Kharn is that he tends to annihilate anything he charges in one phase either through sweeping advance or just by killing everyone outright, which leaves him vulnerable to enemy fire afterwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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Honestly, he&#039;s not worth it. Between his fragility, low mobility, and lack of army bonuses, he&#039;s a tricky Primarch to use. Unfortunate considering his badass fluff.&lt;br /&gt;
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====2E====&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Angron:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 450 || 8 || 8 || 5 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 10 || 2+/4++&lt;br /&gt;
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While he&#039;s taken a few hits statwise, Angron remains just as indescribably angry in the new HH, especially now that he has a proper 2+/4++ save like the other primarchs. on top of everything the Primarch rule provides, he also gets Hatred (Everything), Rampage (2) and Furious Charge (2) so his charges can be even more devastating. With both Gorefather and Gorechild being AP2 with Shred, Armorbane and Murderous Strike (3+), he can reduce plenty into paste. The Butcher&#039;s Nails rule got changed to now provide extra attacks on EVERY turn now, meaning that every turn he&#039;s on the field he becomes even more dangerous, especially when he&#039;s into all these challenges thanks to the Red Sands rule.&lt;br /&gt;
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But as before, killing is all he can do. His Warlord Trait gives everyone Feel No Pain (6+), which is only okay, and Adamantium Mind (3+), which will only see limited use considering how few psykers are on the field. The most helpful part of this is the free reaction you can take at any phase each turn. He also has rather limited defense, as despite his 2+/4++ save, he will always be hit in melee as if he has a WS of 3, which is particularly devastating when against a praetor with a power axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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===40k===&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Angron:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 500 || 10 || 6 || 7 || 6 || 5 || 6 || 6 || 10 || 3+/4++&lt;br /&gt;
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He had stats from an old issue of [[White Dwarf]], and though they might seem disappointing, especially in comparison to his Primarch form (it&#039;s barely an upgrade), his stats alone don&#039;t tell you everything.&lt;br /&gt;
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For starters, he has additional rules such as Furious Charge (to make him S8), he has Iron Hide (keeping his power armour save), the Roar of Hate rule to reduce the Leadership of enemies by 1, and his Daemon rule made his Invuln as strong as when he relied on armour. The real boost to him however is the fact that he&#039;s a Flying Monstrous Creature now (although in the edition he came out it just gave him 12&amp;quot; movement instead), effectively keeping his Armourbane and AP2, and it fixes his movement issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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The real boost to his old self is his weapon, Angron&#039;s Black Blade, and with it in hand it&#039;s no wonder Gorefather and Gorechild became hand-me-downs. This is a Master-crafted weapon that gives all of his attacks the Instant Death rule. All this combined he makes [[Abaddon]] the Despoiler and [[Mephiston]] look like total pussies, but you have to get him a bodyguard of at least 2-12 [[Bloodthirster|bloodthirsters]], which effectively racks up his point cost to over 1300 at the least, but there&#039;s nothing in the game that survive a charge from him and his bodyguards.&lt;br /&gt;
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====9th Edition====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AngronDaemonPrimarch.jpg|300px|right|thumb|WHAT THE WARP DO YOU MEAN GUILLIMAN&#039;S ALIVE?!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s happening people: the galaxy&#039;s angriest man is at long last getting a proper model of his Daemon Primarch form and rules in the upcoming World Eaters codex, and he hasn&#039;t skipped wing day once since the 31st Millennia. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, BOYS AND GIRLS!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Angron VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (But with Angron this is less likely as you&#039;re going to die or kill fast!), with that in mind this section is about how Angron fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise. Please note that all the various abilities are taken into accounts when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. The fights are supposed to be in a vacuum for simplicity (So no Furious Charge for our hero...), but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus turn 1 &amp;amp; 2: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 0.888 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.555 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus (with Angron wounded twice): hits 3.999 times, wounds 3.555 times, causes 1.185 wounds after saves &amp;amp; FNP, taken to 0.851 with IWND at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Wounded: hits 3 times, wounds 1.999 times, 0.666 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Despite a good showing in the first round; when factoring in Disabling Strike the whole thing becomes academic; Horus overtakes Angron in damage capacity after one wound (&amp;lt;2 turns) and quickly beats Angron to a pulp as Angron continues to flail feebly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 0.971 (1.134) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.638 (0.801) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t chose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait. With Child of Terra it becomes a battle of attrition that Angron will eventually lose. If Angron gets blinded at any point due to Fulgrim&#039;s Gilded Panoply it puts him at a disadvantage he likely wont recover from.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Thanks to his upgraded Feel No Pain, Angron can tank more than Ferrus can, resulting in a win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.750 wounds after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins, doing a lot more damage and receiving less in turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Curze can Hit &amp;amp; Run, but by doing so he would only gain one more attack, while allowing Angron to reset his Hatred, thus actually making himself die even faster. However he would be a much better fight: Konrad on the Charge would do 2.625 wounds (0.875 with ID) which become 1.168, plus 0.1389 for HoW and 0,359 for the Widowmakers, for a total of 1,666 wounds, or 1.333 after IWND. This, thanks to the -1 wound of Angron, actually means that they would kill each other on the fifth assault, at the same initiative step. Provided that Konrad always succeed in his escape, that is.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 wounds after saves (ID Negates FNP) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.63.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan wins. If Angron has the first turn of combat, Vulkan&#039;s legendary endurance nearly fails him by the 8th combat, possibly resulting in an Angron win (5.741). However Vulkan is as likely to kill him in the 7th combat (4.833), and if not has a 83.3% chance of Concussing to swing first for 5.333 wounds in the 8th combat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 times after saves (no FNP due to Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion loses. Despite having the same reroll on IWND and doing the same damage per turn as Vulkan; even with one extra wound Mortarion&#039;s poorer save allows Angron to take him down more quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Lorgar &lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 3.111 times, 1.555 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins pretty easily.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: against Lorgar Transfigured with Precognition Lorgar wins (Not as easily as the old version, but is still a monster).&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.555 wounds after saves and FNP, then IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: in the turn after Perturabo actually wounds Angron (69% per round) he will most probably be blinded and then hammered to death. So if he can&#039;t kill him before that he is actually dead meat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.917 times, wounds 1.7 times, 0.85 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.517 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**As with Vulkan, Angron can&#039;t use FNP in this fight due to the Pale Spear&#039;s Instant Death, but he still easily takes the win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.499 wounds after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn (Sundering Blow) hits once, wounds 0.972 times, 0.486 wounds after saves (No FNP due to Instant Death), taken to 0.152 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.444.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**This is probably Angron&#039;s easiest fight.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Sundering Blow cancels out Feel No Pain so it was worth calculating. Turns out it makes no difference here; Dorn has too few attacks to make a difference either way.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 0.999 wounds (Scourge)/0.750 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.666/0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333/4.5 times, wounds 4.444/3.75 times, 2.963/2.5 after saves, and IWND take it down to 2.63/2.167.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4/3 times, wounds 3.333/2.5 times, 2.222/1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.889/1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins really easily as Corax is simply too frail for him. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: differently from Curze, Corax would actually have the edge on the charge thanks to his Sire of the Raven Guard rule and his Hammer of Wrath/dual Archeotech Pistols. Also in a turn in which blind goes off he could have the advantage of Shadow-walk and scourge at the same times (plus more, &#039;cause he would hit on 3s). A tough fight, but more on his style and it could make him win in extremis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: Angron has Hatred, so on the first turn he will hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, 1.972 after Armour of Reason re-roll and IWND take it down to 1.639.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves, 1.417 after re-roll and IWND will take that down to 1.084 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 3 and thereafter: Angron hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 after saves and 1 after re-roll. Then IWND take it down to 0.667. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1/2/3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.741 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 4 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 0.987 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.654 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Unsurprisingly, Guilliman loses this fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron vs Magnus&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron first round: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times and 1.875 after saves which IWND will take down to 1.542 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron second round: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times and 1.25 after saves which IWND will take down to 0.917 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Magnus: hits twice, wounds 1.667 times, reducing to 0.557 after saves &amp;amp; FNP. Then IWND will take down to 0.222 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Magnus (using Force): hits twice, wounds 1.667, reduces to 0.834 after saves. IWND brings this to 0.5 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Psychic powers normally don&#039;t get included in the PvP breakdowns, but Magnus is the only one with a Force Weapon so it was worth mentioning. Either way you look at it, Magnus loses this one pretty badly. Things would obviously be different if other powers were included.&lt;br /&gt;
**As with psychic powers in general in 30k, this fight is really swingy based on what powers Magnus takes. If he can roll Iron arm and Warp speed with a power left to generate then he could take Prescience to actually gain a decent chance of winning. At the same time he could also have a tough time in power generation and get squished.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: Angron has Hatred and is hitting on a 5+, so he hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.778 times, invul save brings it down to 1.389 and IWND brings it to 1.056 wounds.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and on: Angron is hitting on 5s, so hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, saves brings it down to .833 and IWND brings it 0.5&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman hits Angron 3.214 times, wounds 2.678 times, save brings it down to 1.339, FNP brings it 0.892 and IWND brings it down 0.559&lt;br /&gt;
**As expected Angron loses this fight. Angron puts up a reasonable fight but the wolf king is just much for him.&lt;br /&gt;
**TLDR: Without the Sword of Balelight, the fight is very close. Sword of Balelight is pretty busted.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Jaghatai&lt;br /&gt;
**Jaghatai (on Bike) hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 1 wounds after saves and FNP will take that down to 0.666 and IWND will take that down to 0.333&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 wounds after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.888 wounds after saves, IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angrons wins, and if Jaghatai uses hit-and-run he&#039;ll get destroyed even faster.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Sanguinius&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius charging: hits 4 times (3.5 times with Blade Encarmine), wounds 3.999 times (double wounds taken into account) (3.111 with Encarmine), becomes 1.999 (1.037 with Encarmine &amp;amp; FNP) after saves&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius Hammer of Wrath: 1 autohit, wounds 0.833 times, becomes 0.277 after saves and FNP. &lt;br /&gt;
***Total combined damage on charge 2.276 (1.314), taken to 1.944 (0.981) next turn with IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius thereafter: hits 3.5 times (3 times with Blade Encarmine), wounds 2.333 times (double wounds taken into account)(2.666 with Encarmine), taken to 1.166 after saves (0.888 with Encarmine + FNP), taken to 0.8333 (0.555) next turn with IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times, becomes 1.875 after saves (0.938 if Sanguinius charged). IWND takes it to 1.54 (0.604) next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron thereafter: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, becomes 1.25 after saves and IWND takes it to 0.917 next turn&lt;br /&gt;
***There is a lot going on with this fight depending on what Sanguinius is doing. With the Spear of Telesto, from a standing start or if Angron charges there is a mutual kill by about the fifth bout of combat. If Sanguinius can get the charge he wins. &lt;br /&gt;
***With the Blade Encarmine there is a close mutual kill if Sanguinius charges, but Angron wins from a standing start or if he charges. Feel No Pain really makes the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TLDR version: Despite being mocked for &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; having 3+/4++ in saves and fewer wounds than everyone but Lorgar (or Corax on a bad day), Angron is surprisingly resilient thanks to his FNP(5+). He will outpace most opponents thanks to his high number of attacks and good WS, so those who can&#039;t match his output turn-for-turn can only hope to outlast him. Angron is pretty vulnerable to Strikedown, Concussive, Blind, and basically any rule which reduces his ability to hit things &#039;&#039;(eg: Horus &amp;amp; Russ)&#039;&#039;, all of which will severely cripple his overall damage potential. Keep in mind, as mentioned above, this is without any benefits from his The Butcher&#039;s Nails rule. With his attacks maxed out he can destroy almost any other Primarch (even Lorgar with Precognition, though it is damn close) with the exception of a few like Russ and...yeah, you guessed it right: Horus! Although he will surely put a dent even in the Warmaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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In case you&#039;re wondering, Angron&#039;s mortal form defeats his Daemon form, mainly because his Daemon form was made before IWND became a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Past-Angron.jpg| Doomguy called he wants his training uniform back, and he wants your head with it.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron.jpg|Can [[Anime|Vegeta]] say what his power level is?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron Butchers Nails.jpg|Angron before Daemonhood. The only real difference is a lack of wings.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aerion&#039;s Angron.jpg|Angron portrayed in his natural state: PISSED THE FUCK OFF ABOUT EVERYTHING!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron by alexboca-d7930i6.jpg|Angron just generally being a boss (and looking absolutely goddamn awesome while doing so). And you call the epic ness that he wears &amp;quot;3+&amp;quot; greatly displeases khorne and teh emprah&lt;br /&gt;
File:angron_is_for_angry_by_sunradio-d6oferw.jpg|Daemon Primarch Angron at the final battle of the First war of Armageddon.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Happy angron.jpg|Angron can be happy too...&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPVNaKvODw&amp;amp;t=0s| They hit him with a truck!]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Blood Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[Image:Blood_Angels_Pauldron.jpeg|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Emperor and Sanguinius! Death! DEATH!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = IX&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Eaters of the Dead, Revenant Legion, the Charnel Feast&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Angels Encarmine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Excelsis]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Glorious]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Angels of Light&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Penitent]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Vermillion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Atlantian Spears]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Dragons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Legion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Scythes]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Swords]] (claimed otherwise in Codex: Blood Angels 5th Edition by [[Matt Ward]], so take that as you will)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Brothers of Jarad]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Burning Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Carmine Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Charnel Guard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Cruor Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Exsanguinators]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Eaters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Tearers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Golden Sons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of the Chalice]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Lamenters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Red Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Brotherhood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Knights]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sanguine Host]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = [[Dante]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Sanguinius]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Baal]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Rapid assaults, close combat, being space vampires, having the Space Marine equivelent of the [[Red Rage]], being &#039;&#039;fabulous&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = ~1000 Marines&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Red with black detailing&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Man is neither angel nor beast, and the misfortune is that he who would act the angel acts the beast.|Blaise Pascal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|From his Blood are we born! From his essence are we made! From his passion comes our art! From his nobility comes beauty. From his might stems justice. From his thirst is born righteous rage!|The Final Charge of the [[Lord of the Rings|Rohirrim]]--err, Blood angels.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood; Fear the old blood.|Provost Willem, &#039;&#039;Bloodborne&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; were the 9th [[Space Marine]] Legion created by the [[Emperor]]. They are so named because of their tendency to &lt;br /&gt;
use blood as a central symbol of their particular warrior-monk rituals, and because of their susceptibility to the [[Red Thirst]], a wild bloodlust that arises in them during battle. If he fails to control his Red Thirst, a Blood Angel may succumb to the [[Black Rage]] (the [[Grimdark|Grimdarkest]] of Daddy Issues), after which he becomes a completely insane killing machine with no regard for his own safety who will try to destroy the Emperor&#039;s foes even if all he has left is a bloody stump of one leg. This has led to the Blood Angels being viewed as basically vampires [[Meme|IN SPEHSS]], and unfortunately as the [[Twilight|Team Edward]] to the [[Space Wolves]] [[Twilight|Team Jacob]]. If you are not already completely indignant, see the second image at the bottom of the page for additional [[rage]]. We&#039;ll wait. …...Yeah, how much does that blow? Here&#039;s the good news, though: that&#039;s pretty much the only thing that sucks (PUN) about the Blood Angels. Everything else is [[awesome]] apart maybe from [[Skub|&#039;nipple&#039; armour]], but the rest is all cool, angelic and bloody and all. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cause of the Black Rage basically amounts to the most epic case of an absent-daddy complex ever. Just with a high chance of being skullfuckingly angry/awesome at the same time. You see, during the [[Horus Heresy]], the Blood Angels&#039; [[Primarch]], [[Sanguinius]], was slain by [[Horus]] himself just before the Emperor destroyed Horus. This subsequently [[RAGE|fucked up]] the mental stability of all future generations of Blood Angels, and when one of them is overtaken by the Black Rage, he literally believes he is Sanguinius and relives in vivid detail the final battle with Horus and his traitor legions at the Battle of [[Terra]]. So in short, you know when someone says that they will kick you so hard in the balls your grandchildren will feel it, Horus actually did that.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
The IX Legion were not mentioned for many of the early actions of the Great Crusade. Their purpose was separate and unsightly. Their designed function was to utterly obliterate the enemy like an inferno, only growing in strength as the wars raged on and leaving nothing in their wake. So they were commonly deployed to radiation poisoned warzones, fighting against mutants and other undesirables that the Terrans would rather forget or ignore.&lt;br /&gt;
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To this end, the IX Legion had a very peculiar gene-seed quirk: where other legions had to be fairly selective with the genetic purity of their recruits, the Ninth could recruit from practically anyone, not only the broken and downtrodden, but also deformed mutants that might not even be considered human anymore. The IX gene-seed allowed miraculous transformations that created uniformly elegant and fair Astartes from any source, meaning the legion could recruit from practically any world, no matter how poisoned.  [[Derp|Gotta wonder why this wasn’t standard...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the early days, their reputation for such transformations meant they were followed around by throngs of pilgrims, all baying and petitioning for the chance to become Astartes, eventually forming a &amp;quot;cult&amp;quot; called the &#039;&#039;&#039;Red Brothers&#039;&#039;&#039; who wove a tradition of mysticism around the Angels of the Ninth, collecting cast-off munitions and damaged armour plate; They even started attempting to sponsor good candidates for Astartes and weeding out the weaker ones. Sufficed to say, such a cult would not last when the [[Emperor]] proclaimed his [[Imperial Truth]], and somewhat ironically, the Ninth would be the ones to destroy them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to their apparent resilience and proclivity for eating the bodies of the dead, the Ninth Legion would become known as The Revenants, this was because both the legion itself and its members seemed to come back from the dead as well as their Omophagea-induced habits. The legion was repeatedly deployed into bloody and toxic warzones that should have wiped them out, only to emerge stronger at the end; and the legion&#039;s officers had what appeared to be a remarkably long lifespan. This latter detail was in fact an illusion covering up a far more grisly truth: when an officer of the Revenants died, his successor would eat the body and take on his name.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coming of the Primarch===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood angel aspirants.jpg|300px|thumb|left|Welcome motherfuckers, have some blood. You&#039;ll be as pretty as us in no time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; Primarch was [[Sanguinius]], who was best known for being a [[Pretty_Marines|pretty]] [[Mutant]], a charismatic guy with a bad temper that made him look like Satan, and he was apparently a total bro. Basically, to the Space Marine legions and the rest of the Primarchs, he was [[This Guy]]. They all loved him. Even Horus, after he fell to [[Chaos]], lamented that Sanguinius in particular was no longer by his side. Sanguinius was so charismatic and batshit loyal that when he met the Emperor for the first time, he dropped to his knees and simply begged that the lives of those who worshiped him be spared, and the Emperor [[awesome|agreed and withheld the Imperial Truth from Baal.]] He also had a pair of huge, angel-like wings; no one is sure if this had something to do with the radiation on Baal or if he just came out of his birthing pod like that, but the citizens of Baal nearly killed him for it when he was found at the site now known as Angel&#039;s Fall. ([[Emperor|Emprah]] have mercy on anyone who uses the [[Mutant|m-word]] around the Blood Angels, though.) Many of the Blood Angels imitate the power and majesty of their beloved Primarch&#039;s wings by focusing on jump pack assaults, so the Blood Angels and their successor chapters doctrinally see a lot more [[Assault Squad]]s than the typical Space Marine army. Their current Chapter Master is [[Dante]], the oldest non-Dreadnought-interred loyalist Space Marine in history. &lt;br /&gt;
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They had a brotherly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] (if only the [[Imperial Fists]]/[[Iron Warriors]] and [[Ultramarines]]/[[Word Bearers]] could have managed that…) which got pretty messy when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. They were at the forefront during the [[Siege of Terra]] where Sanguinius died in the final hours and the Black Rage set in. In the [[Second Founding]], the Chapter was divided like the other legions. First Captain [[Raldoron]] became the first Chapter Master of the Blood Angels Chapter, starting the illustrious legacy currently held by Dante, who took office as the last surviving line officer after Chapter Master Remael and most of the Chapter command were killed in action.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Warhammer 40K blood angels wallpaper (1).jpg|300px|thumbnail|right|A Marine putting the &#039;blood&#039; in &#039;Blood Angel&#039;. Diligently reminding everyone they used to be called the &amp;quot;Charnel Feast&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In times of dire need, they are aided by the [[Sanguinor]], a guy who seems to be a Blood Angel in a more literal sense. Maybe he&#039;s some psychic manifestation of the Chapter. Maybe he&#039;s a ghost of Sanguinius. Nobody knows. The important thing is that he enjoys piledriving [[Bloodthirsters]] from space, killing [[Eldar]] [[Khaine|Avatars]], and killing a bunch of Night Lords, saving Dante&#039;s life in the process as it was otherwise a textbook suicide mission, a redemptive one, to be specific.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and [[Hive Fleet Leviathan]] have been coming to devour their homeworld [[Baal]] for a few editions while it is also being attacked by a [[Khorne|Khornate]] army led by their ancient enemy, the [[Bloodthirster]] [[Ka&#039;bandha]]. 8th edition &amp;quot;progressed&amp;quot; the story with the attack and [[Devastation of Baal|devastation of the Baal]] system where the Blood Angels and almost all their successor chapters were ready to receive them. Both moons were stripped of all life (yummy yummy radioactive wastes) and the main planet was wrecked with trillions of bugs, with the last survivors making one last charge--facing their fate like men in the ruins of the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is when the [[Great Rift]] opened up and cut Baal from the real space, yet the [[Tyranids]] on the ground forgot about the synapse shenanigans and continued to enjoy their first winning campaign since like forever. By the time the Warp was stable, all the bug-ships had vanished and Ka&#039;Bandha had wiped out everything on one of Baal&#039;s moons--but in an odd show of his tsundere side for the Blood Angels, primarily summoned his lesser ilk to fight off the Tyranids, until the chapter master of the [[Knights of Blood]] chapter, Sentor Jool, engaged the Bloodthirster in single combat, which sounds stupid, but actually comes off completely fuckawesome and manly...while also being a pretty stupid thing to do. &lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily for them the cicatrix maledictum had royally fucked up the hive fleet, completely disappearing some portions and annihilating the rest. The Blood Angels last stand culminated in Dante further fucking over the hive mind in a good bout of fisticuffs with the [[Swarmlord]]. The [[Legion of the Damned]] and the [[Sanguinor]] provided timely reinforcement, appearing to lead his Blood Angels brethren in a heroic last stand against Hive Fleet Leviathan, where the Chapter Master [[anal circumference|meltagunned The Swarmlord&#039;s face off]] [[Awesome|after being impaled, allowing the rest of his squad to live]]. The Sanguinor took off after that, but not after he managed to [[Noblebright|renew the Astartes&#039; faith in humanity.]] [[Derp|True salvation]] arrived when the warp storms abated and the arrival of the [[Indomitus Crusade]]. Though [[Roboute Guilliman]] confided later that all they really had to do was finish off the stragglers that had survived the fleet and the warp storms--which was a nice clean way to provide some dignity to the severely depleted Sons of Sanguinius for the fanboys who had already been rolling their eyes over their [[Spiritual Liege]] coming to save them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Baal Primus is a blasted shithole now (well...more of one, anyway) and is now uninhabited. In an odd show of [[noblebright]], Guilliman ordered the mechanicus to terraform Baal Secundus back into its paradisal state before the long night, [[Wat|apparently something they&#039;ve long been able to do, they just kept it shitty to make for better (read:Tougher) recruits.]] Afterwards Big Bobby-G in a decidedly bro-tier move made Commander Dante the Warden of Imperium Nihilus--effectively ceding command of wholly HALF of the Imperium (the shitty half maybe...) and restored their ability to create new marines, provided fresh [[gene-seed]] and were granted the ability to produce new [[Primaris Space Marines]] along with all of the existing Primaris marines with Sanguinius&#039; bloodline. They capped off the noblebright with allowing all the mortal boys who fought in defense of Baal to become Blood Angels, no questions asked, as they had already proven their worth defending their world. So a bit of a rollercoaster of emotions that day, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Combat Doctrine==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Helmet Colours.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Helmets for the Blood Angels play a very important part in their chapter—easy color coding to identify squad type &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; an incentive to keep your sexy face covered to [[Nemeroth|prevent easily avoidable death by helmetlessness]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels took the establishment of the [[Codex Astartes]] as official Space Marine doctrine with [[Imperial Fists|notably less]] [[Space Wolves|bitching than]] [[Salamanders|other chapters]] due to the death of their Primarch and the onset of the Black Rage. They follow the strictures of the Codex as far as they see wisdom in it: the chapter is comprised of a thousand Blood Angels and divided into ten companies, each of which is headed by a captain. The First Company is comprised of veterans, and the Tenth Company is comprised of Scouts and Neophytes who have not yet become full Marines. Obviously though, none of the blood rituals and other [[Pretend|weird shit]] is Codex-approved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like their brethren in the [[Raven Guard]] though, the Blood Angels have a natural predilection for using jump packs and their own free will ([[Ultramarines|as opposed to blindly]] [[Red Scorpions|following the Codex]]). Due to their chapter&#039;s [[Black Rage|curse]], they have had to tweak things a bit; once they complete their training as Scouts, Blood Angels immediately go into [[Assault Squad|Assault Squads]] rather than [[Devastator Squad|Devastator Squads]], as the Codex Astartes would have it, though not only because of these little scamps&#039; brashness. The constant close combat also allows Blood Angel officers to identify the noobs who can control their Red Thirst as well as those who cannot, and thereafter keep tabs on the latter group. Devastator Squads in the Blood Angels Chapter are reserved for Marines who have better control of the Red Thirst than most, because heavy fire support isn&#039;t very useful when the people providing it have psychopathic ADD. &lt;br /&gt;
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The few Blood Angels that decide they don&#039;t like jumping like maniacs into swarms of enemies, and instead prefer biking like maniacs into swarms of enemies, are regarded as some of the best biker Marines in the Imperium, following closely behind the [[White Scars]] and the Dark Angels&#039; [[Ravenwing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR Blood Angels hit shit until it dies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tools of the Trade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Tumblr niexunCRca1tvfheeo1 1280.jpg|300px|left|thumb|[[Sanguinius]] proclaimed, &amp;quot;War is an art form,&amp;quot; and the Blood Angels said, &amp;quot;Well, that sounds [[Pretty Marines|absolutely fabulous]]. Get me some gold.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are known throughout the Imperium to be master artisans. Their long lifespans allow them time to perfect whatever trade they set their mind to, whether they are crafting the infamous, hand-sculpted artificer &#039;nipple&#039; armour, [[What|bolters worth more than an Imperial hive city]], or even if they&#039;re simply painting vehicles and power armour. The philosophy behind this practice is that you cannot hope to know the value of what you&#039;re fighting for if you cannot understand its beauty.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are also known for their prevalent use of [[flamer|flamers]] and [[melta]] weapons. While they don&#039;t employ them as plentifully as the [[Salamanders]] do, they are nearly as masterfully constructed. The Sons of Sanguinius have taken a liking to the hand flamer, which gives them the assault capability of a flamer, but leaves their sword arm free to use in close combat. Heavy flamers can also be found in many of their Tactical Squads as an assault deterrent as well as on the side sponsons of Baal Predators to complement the Flamestorm Cannon, which ruins any infantry unit&#039;s day. &lt;br /&gt;
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They also reeeeeeally like the Inferno pistol. Many of them have one, including the [[Dante|Chapter Master]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The aforementioned Baal Predator is a unique tank manufactured by the Blood Angels. It is an anti-infantry assault tank equipped with [[Dakka|twin-linked assault cannons and heavy flamers]] that was acquired in a pre-heresy campaign that nearly broke all their relationships with the Mechanicus. Even to this day, things are still a bit touchy. Luckily, the Techmarines of the chapter quickly reverse engineered the overcharged &amp;quot;Lucifer-class&amp;quot; engines onto nearly all their vehicles. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; de facto relic weapons are called Glaive Encarmine—&#039;glaive&#039; apparently meaning &#039;sword&#039; in this case rather than the halberd-type weapon it&#039;s associated with (&amp;quot;glaives&amp;quot; comes from the Latin &amp;quot;gladius&amp;quot;, the common short sword of Roman era, so there you go). They&#039;re made out of a mono-filament metal called &#039;angel-steel&#039; and are purportedly so perfectly crafted that they never bend or warp. The secrets to their manufacture are jealously guarded by their Artificers (hopefully well-protected against &amp;quot;forgetting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;losing&amp;quot;). Instead of making armor out of it, of course.  This is represented by their master-crafted universal special rule. They come in two flavors, a Carmine Sword or a Carmine Axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Recruitment==&lt;br /&gt;
While [[Space Marine]] selection is naturally never soft, the Blood Angels&#039; methods are especially [[Grimdark]] by first taking their aspirants from [[Baal]] and its moons and requiring them journey through canyons and a fucking large desert (which are crawling with monsters and radioactive...though probably like the rest of [[Baal]]) to reach Angel&#039;s Fall, where [[Sanguinius]] was first found. After that, the surviving Aspirants kill each other in gladiatorial contests until fifty victors are chosen. &#039;&#039;Then&#039;&#039; they have to observe a vigil for 72 hours (any who fall asleep are taken away and never seen again), and finally after succeeding in that, the aspirants drink from a Blood Chalice provided by a Sanguinary Priest and fall into a coma (hopefully) for a year. They are then put into a life-support coffin for that year during which the gene-seed of [[Sanguinius]] implanted into them from the Blood Chalice changes them into Blood Angels. Many aspirants at this stage prove incompatible with the gene-seed and die during their confinement, [[Grimdark|others wake up too early from their coma and go insane from this solitary and claustrophobic imprisonment]], and the rest are the newest additions to the Blood Angels chapter when they wake up after a year.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously you probably have better odds living through a war than going through this shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gene Seed==&lt;br /&gt;
The Blood Angels&#039; themes and motifs are drawn from vampire and Faustian mythology as well as Catholic traditions &amp;amp; Italian renaissance style. They [[Beakie|commonly fly (with jump packs)]], [[Twilight|are eternally youthful]], [[Vampire|drink blood, and sleep in coffins]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels are noted for naturally living longer on average than the Marines of any other chapter. Although, since there is no baseline standard for how long Astartes are supposed to live in the first place, and no Space Marine has ever been shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age (outside of those that have been affected by the Hrud), this claim kinda rings a little hollow (although any marine worth his salt will die of being slowed down by age before it&#039;s enough to finish him off). Even [[Dante]]&#039;s age of over 1000 years isn&#039;t unique to his lineage, as there have been several other notable Astartes from other legion bloodlines that have managed a similar lifespan. By and large, Space Marines only die when they are killed, so, the only real ways Blood Angels can live considerably longer than &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; space marines is if they either [[Reasonable Marines|don&#039;t put themselves at risk as much as normal marines]], or [[Rip and tear|they&#039;re so ded &#039;ard that they&#039;re just harder to kill than normal marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus Heresy: Malevolence explains the longevity in a somewhat ironic fashion, given what we already know of Astartes physiology. The Ninth Legion were renowned  for their long lifespans even during the early Great Crusade. What was less known was that the Legion had a habit of eating their dead captains after they fell in battle, with the Omophagea implant allowing the memories and battle experience to be retained for a future generation. Some recipients of these memories would take up the identity of the dead officer and give the outward appearance that they had never died at all. It was said that the Legion&#039;s master prior to Sanguinius&#039; recovery had gone through several such reincarnations before his final death when the body was destroyed beyond recognition. Sufficed to say that after Sanguinius arrived, things changed and thereafter took being called the &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Eaters of the Dead&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as cause for grievous offense.  Which is dumb because using the Omophagea like this is brilliant and means each Astartes would be far more competent than he normally would be.  Many Marines would gain veteran levels of experience and skill without having to spend decades or centuries gaining it.  What did Sanguinius think the Omophagea was for?  Not eating people?  Pfft.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a Blood Angel does die, a [[Sanguinary Priest]] (what they call their [[Apothecaries]]) extracts his gene-seed using a device called an exsanguinator. When it comes time to implant it in an Initiate, the Initiate must receive it by drinking from a Blood Chalice (&#039;insanguination&#039;), which also contains the essence of Sanguinius. The story of [[Mephiston]], the Blood Angels&#039; chief librarian, closely parallels the legend of Faust, a scholar who sells his soul to the devil in return for great knowledge and power (hell, he&#039;s named after the manifestation of the devil in the story, Mephistopheles or Mephisto). The names of their special characters and vehicles have an Italian flavor—Dante, the Furioso Dreadnought, Brother Corbulo. Corbulo, known as the chapter&#039;s High Sanguinary Priest, carries the Red Grail, which contains the blood of Sanguinius himself. Also, do we have to point out that the word &#039;sanguis&#039; literally means &#039;blood&#039; in Latin? Well, there you go. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels and their successor chapters have a genetic defect in their gene-seed known euphemistically as &amp;quot;The Flaw&amp;quot;. It seems to have much more representation in the [[fluff]] than in the [[crunch]], but that&#039;s standard fare for a life-threatening, damnation-courting mutation that can pop up at any time. One chapter, Angels Penitent, managed to stave the defects off until they were fucked over by Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Red Thirst===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BA&#039;s.jpg|thumb|left|500px|[[Ultramarines|You&#039;ll never see a Blood Angel go]] &amp;quot;Oh nooooes, a fleet of nice squishy flesh-bugs coming to devour our system, we&#039;re doooomed...&amp;quot;. Maybe because it&#039;s an excellent way to let loose for a bit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Red Thirst is what makes the Blood Angels space vampires,&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; or Team Edward &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|PURGE THE UNCOMFORTABLE THEMATIC PARALLELS OF POPULAR CULTURE!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Red Thirst]] has been a part of being a Blood Angel since the [[Great Crusade]]. Sanguinius went to great lengths to hide it from the Emperor for fear of being [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|expunged from the Imperium]], although odds are that the Emperor already knew. He even introduced [[Chaplain]]s to the Blood Angels legions before the Edict of Nikaea, not just to monitor psykers, but to look out for brothers who might be giving in to their bloodlust.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the lore the general effect is that the Red Thirst makes a Blood Angel an [[Angry Marine]] with a literal thirst for actual goddamn blood. Thus most Blood Angel Chaplains require certification for anger management therapy before they get the job. Their duty is to ensure that the assorted Marines are not showing signs of bloodlust, and to throw them into a battle if they are [[Grimdark|so they can stave off total madness a bit longer]]. A Blood Angel can suppress his Red Thirst simply by fighting in battle. However, sometimes, a Blood Angel will see the memories of Sanguinius’ death upon the Vengeful Spirit. This will inevitably trigger the second, and more devastating, part of the Flaw- the Black Rage. After this, their lives will consist of utterly suicidal front-line charges to [[rip and tear]] the enemy as much as possible, before they eventually receive an honorable death in combat against the Emperor&#039;s foes. Those unlucky enough to survive to the end of the battle will either be given [[Blam|the Emperor&#039;s Peace]] by [[Astorath]], or [[Grimdark|imprisoned within the Tower of the Lost as a hopeless, dribbling maniac until they are required on the field of battle once more.]] This happened in Devastation of Baal, where the victims of the curse were seen as having mutated into hulking beasts who moved on all fours like gorillas. They were released to hold off the hordes of Daemons and Tyranids.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood-angel-dantewontdie.jpg|thumb|right|300px|I told you about the Red Thirst bro!]]Some chapters are more susceptible than others. The imaginatively named &amp;quot;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;quot; are notorious amongst their allies for allegedly leaving exsanguinated corpses wherever they show up. On the upside, Blood Drinkers are one of the few chapters who have [[Deathwatch (RPG)|tangible rules]] regarding how they handle the Red Thirst: if they have recently sated themselves, they gain a boost to WS, and suffer penalties to morale checks if they refrain from feeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this has historically been changed in every single incarnation of the rules as GW continually changed their minds over how the Thirst should be represented; in 7th edition, they just give the flat bonus of Furious Charge to everything (including dreadnoughts); but if you get a bunch of Blood Angels together in the correct FOC or formation, then they also get +1 to Initiative when charging (&#039;&#039;á la&#039;&#039; old-school Furious Charge), which is a very strong advantage. In 5th edition, Red Thirst had the odd consequence of occasionally making a unit Fearless and Furious Chargers if they give into the temptation, though independent characters had enough control over themselves that they were mostly immune, with a [[Erasmus Tycho|few]] exceptions. Going further back, into 3rd edition, the Red Thirst made a bit more sense and was something to actually be wary of, as your units had a potential to lose control at the thought of blood and move out of position towards the enemy. This really wasn&#039;t [[fun]], especially if your Devastator Squads didn&#039;t pull that critical round of shooting.&lt;br /&gt;
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New in 8th it comes back with a vengeance. Allowing any infantry who charged, has been charged, or is performing a heroic intervention, to add +1 to the to wound roll. Meaning, when red thirst is in affect, [[awesome|you&#039;ll never be wounding on anything worse than 5+]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Black Rage===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Death company by fonteart-d6ay2k7.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Note the ancient, unfathomable Rage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the [[Black Rage]] is the Red Thirst&#039;s angrier, more troublesome brother. You know, the one who dresses in black all the time, and who shows up at random times to complicate your life and embarrass your family. It&#039;s a terminal state in which the battle brother has not only succumbed to the Red Thirst, but has had a total psychotic breakdown. Or if you&#039;re feeling particularly poetic: it&#039;s the psychic scream of a dying demi-god that got stuck in his progeny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Battle-brothers who succumb to the Black Rage are overcome with visions of Blood Angel battles during the [[Horus Heresy]], and a few even imagine themselves to be [[Pretend|Sanguinius battling Horus on his battle barge]]. This of course has the unfortunate side effect of making them completely lose touch with reality, fighting a battle that they can never ever win since the outcome of the hallucinations has already occurred. On the plus side though, their disconnection with what is going on around them turns them into immensely powerful warriors, since each and every one of them believe in some way that they are Sanguinius.  You’re basically left with Sanguinius with an Astartes body and the Primarch’s incredible skill.  [[Awesome|It’s as terrifying and awesome as it sounds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, a Marine afflicted with the Black Rage will become even angrier than an [[Angry Marine]], and with even less self-control(which means they are effectively each Nightbringer crossed with Commissar Fuklaw. If you happen to be in the same star system of one of these, pray to the god emperor they don&#039;t sense you. If you don&#039;t happen to worship the God-Emperor, silently hope your gods are OK with suicide, because the alternative is too nightmarishly gruesome for even Games Workshop to describe in sufficient detail). If this happens in a war zone, they are quietly organized into small squads and their armor is painted black by a chaplain before the worst of the hallucinations take over. If they aren&#039;t killed in battle or get off the leash somehow, [[Astorath]] will come and execute them on the battlefield since no other Blood Angel has the stomach (or outright skill) to kill his own battle brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:True Blood Angels.jpg|150px|thumb|Blood Angel confronts his true form. And you thought the [[Wulfen]] looked weird]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Death Company]] is a group of Blood Angels on the battlefield who are afflicted by the [[Black Rage]]. Every force of Blood Angels and their successor chapters has one, though [[Flesh Tearers|some]] are more susceptible than [[Lamenters|others]], which makes those chapters&#039; responses to the occurrence of Black Rage quite varied. The [[Flesh Tearers]] and the renegade [[Knights of Blood]] chapters both have an uncanny predilection for all-out, balls-to-the-wall assault—hoping to die in battle honorably before the rage takes them. In the Knights of Blood&#039;s case, they fought with the zeal of the [[Black Templars]], the fury of the [[World Eaters]], and the excess of the [[Marines Malevolent]] in such a perfect way that they got kicked out of the [[Imperium of Man|cool kids club]] and branded renegades for their excess collateral damage against allied forces. The Flesh Tearers very nearly joined that shit list, and were only forgiven by the Blood Angels when [[Plot armor|Astorath personally intervened on their behalf, citing that their brutality would be a necessity in the near future]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this essentially allows you to bring a squad of [[Khorne Berserkers]] without the [[Khorne]], but with more customization options. You can also take several squads if Astorath has shown up, as he always seems to know where and when his brothers will succumb.&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Red Thirst, [[Games Workshop|GW]] keep changing the rules with these guys; nowadays you can purchase units of Death Company as Elite choices for your army at a not-insignificant cost, whilst in 6th they were Troops, but were so far down the path of being drooling lunatics that they couldn&#039;t hold objectives, and you could only have one squad unless [[Astorath]] was watching. In ancient times, it used to happen spontaneously for free, and you had to roll for squads at the start of battle, potentially losing members of squads you already paid for to bulk up your Death Company, which made fluff-sense. But at least you chose which model to take off, and sending a veteran sergeant to the Death Company was the only way of giving power weapon/fists (excluding the chaplain) to the squad. Losing a [[Terminator|Termie]] or tooled-up honour guard made you cry though...&lt;br /&gt;
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==In a nutshell==&lt;br /&gt;
A redditor by the name of redsonatnight explained what the Blood angels are about thusly.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;To paraphrase Pratchett, they&#039;re &#039;where the falling angel meets the rising ape.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The Blood Angels, more than any other Legion, &#039;&#039;&#039;strive&#039;&#039;&#039;. They have the potential to be more bareserk than the Wolves, more savage than the World Eaters and more blood-drenched than the Night Lords, and for a while they were - look up their history as the Revenant Legion before Sanguinius took them in.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And now, despite essentially having the Doom Eternal soundtrack playing constantly in their ear, despite losing the father that made them find their better nature, they work harder than almost any other loyal Chapter to maintain a humanity they never really possessed. They paint, they sculpt, they help people, all while something in them screams to open children like Capri Suns and bathe in the overflow.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The Blood Angels work really hard to be good people. That&#039;s what makes them noble.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily rituals of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn of War.jpg|200px|thumb|left|alt text|Dante pwns some noobs as [[Astorath]] and [[Mephiston]] look on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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04:00 - Reveille - The Blood Angels are roused from their coffins to start the day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:10 - Grooming - The Blood Angels take the time to comb their hair and brush their teeth. Special attention is given to their fangs. Even more special attention is given to their long, flowing, golden hair.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:30 - Morning meal - A light meal is prepared by the chapter serfs for the Blood Angels. Consuming a chapter serf is explicitly prohibited.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
05:00 - Morning prayer.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
06:00 - Morning firing rituals - The Blood Angels assemble for target practice. Due to an ancient clerical error, the Blood Angels are in possession of an excessive amount of a heretical series of books from the pre-Imperial days of Terra called the [[Twilight|Twilight Saga]], which they use for target practice by the thousands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle practice - The Blood Angels begin practice in the battle cages. Frequently, the Blood Angels will forgo their bolters for melee weapons. The usage of fangs in combat practice is considered heresy. Using fangs to drink blood is extra Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12:00 - Midday meal - The Blood Angels consume a light meal made for them by the chapter serfs. The chapter serfs are still explicitly off the menu.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13:00 - Deep strike training - The Blood Angels practice their deep strike maneuvers. Pretending to fly like a bat is heresy. Transforming into a bat or black mist to fly is extra Tzeentchian heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:00 - Evening firing rituals. During this time, several Blood Angels also practice the shooting style of a legendary Terran gunslinger known as Nosferatu Alucard, a proto-Blood Angel who was said to have slain thousands of daemons alone using only two blessed stub pistols.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:55 - Milk and Cookies Break. Drinking blood instead of milk or dipping cookies in milk is strictly banned. Dipping cookies in blood is Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:00 - Staring contests - Dumbasses who want to challenge Chief Librarian Mephiston to a menacing staring contest do so now. Usually it&#039;s just the neophytes who don&#039;t know any better.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:15 - Round up - Staring contests end, and those who went mad while staring into Mephiston&#039;s eyes must be tracked down in the fortress-monastery and culled.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:30 - Evening prayer. Special attention is given to how fabulous Sanguinius was and why they can&#039;t wait to tear the heretical Chaos idiots multiple new assholes (hint, it involves blood). &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:00 - Evening meal - A feast is prepared by the chapter serfs, usually of animals who were killed during the deep strike training. The chapter serf is still forbidden to eat them. Using the Red Grail in drinking contests is explicitly prohibited by order of the Sanguinary Priests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:30- All loose [[Death Company]] personnel are rounded up, heavily sedated, and locked into their stasis cell for the night.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
20:00 - Free time - The Blood Angels are allowed a few hours of free time to do as they please. Some reflect on their duty to the Emperor and the deeds of Sanguinius. Others play vidya games. [[Pretty Marines|Some just pose moodily and bare-chested in front of a mirror]]. Still others will engage in artistic activities. A GOOD vampire movie is often shown for the Blood Angels&#039; entertainment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
00:00 - Rest - The Blood Angels retire to their coffins for the evening.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinius]] - Primarch. Snaps [[Bloodthirster]] spines over his knee and decapitates [[Keeper of Secrets|Keepers of Secrets]] for the [[lulz]]. Sacrificed himself to aid in the ultimate defeat of [[Horus]]. May he rest in peace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meros]] - Apothecary during the Horus Heresy. Sacrificed himself so that Sanguinius could righteously fuck up a Keeper of Secrets.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azkaellon]] - Captain of the Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinius&#039; overprotective mother in short.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raldoron]] - First Captain of the Legion, later first Chapter Master of the chapter. Regarded highly alongside Sigismund, Kharne, Sevatar, etc. and noted to be a quality, good &#039;ol fashioned general.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nassir Amit]] - Yup, he eventually became the first Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]], but he was one of the OG Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dominion Zephon - Crippled Blood Angel who represented the Legion on Terra before the Heresy. [[Awesome|Took on Drach&#039;nyen in the Webway]] with a chainsword despite only recently having the feeling restored in his limbs, living out the &amp;quot;drive me closer&amp;quot; meme. All around elegan/tg/entleman able to play the harp well enough to make mutants weep and able to fight just as well. Counteracts the insipid autism of Diocletion Coros during &#039;Master of Mankind&#039; by being just a swell dude. Also, makes a Knight Baroness&#039; panties reenact Genesis 7:17.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Current Chapter Master. Resident badass sexy-grandpa. Seriously, dude&#039;s hella old and prefers not to mention anything about having a Necron&#039;s cell phone number.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mephiston]] - Chief Librarian and resident rape train. Scariest motherfucker this side of the [[Eye of Terror]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Corbulo]] - High [[Sanguinary Priest]]. Sees far, just not far enough, into the future.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astorath]] - Keeper of Sanctity and the dude who kills Death Company nutjobs when they nutjob way too hard.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lemartes]] - Chaplain and the Guardian of the Lost, and the only Blood Angel to hold the Black Rage in check. Ranks #2 behind the Eversor Assassin as the most 40K and [[grimdark]] thing in 40K.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karlaen|Arenos Karlaen]] - 1st Company captain and total bro. Has a model thanks to 7E&#039;s Deathstorm Box.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donatos Aphael]]- 2nd company captain. Very supportive of blood drinking, with good results to back his actions. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erasmus Tycho]] - 3rd company captain. Proof that [[Your dudes]] has a reason to exist. Sadly could not quell the Black Rage, but still worth a fight no doubt. No longer among the living. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moriar the Chosen]] - Matt Ward&#039;s excuse for making generic Death Company Dreadnoughts a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rafen]] - Longest living Blood Angel mook in any of the Blood Angels book series. Single handedly bested Arkio (possessed monster) and further aided Mephiston in staving off the Black Rage for a second time. Also wielded the Spear of Tolesto, though only briefly. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinor]] - Started off being a random dude who was chosen to be Sanguinius&#039; herald during [[Imperium Secundus]], then later stood in his Primarch&#039;s place on Davin and got drawn into the warp while transforming into an angelic being. Nowadays he may be Sanguinius reborn... or Azkaellon... or a warp entity created by the longings of the Blood Angels... DAMMIT! IT&#039;S COMPLICATED. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Acrion]] - Random captain that thought he could stand up to [[Abaddon]] during the 7th Black Crusade. He couldn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thalastian Jorus]] - Fuckawesome Reclusiarch that succeeded in standing up to Abaddon--killed &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; his [[Bringers of Despair|Honour Guard]], thoroughly wrecked the [[Black Legion]] by utilizing [[Wat|guerrilla tactics with the Death Company of all things]] AND became one of like 3 people in the Imperium to go toe to toe with the Despoiler and come out on top, gravely wounding Abby before the Chaplain was killed by the Black Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chapter Master Slamguinius|Brother Slamguinius, the Slambane, 9th lord of slamfuckery]] - The newest hope to rise out of the Blood Angel&#039;s 8th edition codex, and by far the punchiest thing to ever come out of one of our codices from a basic Captain template in recent years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Blood Angels (9E)|Blood Angels Tactics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bloodquest]] - A comic &amp;amp; audio drama centered around the redemption quest of a fallen Captain and his crew.&lt;br /&gt;
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File:The Red Angel.jpg|Manly Vampires, IN SPESS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Admit It.jpg|You know it to be true.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BloodAngels3rd.jpg|Older Blood Angels art. Is that Christopher Lee in the lower left corner? Well, using Dracula as a model makes sense...&lt;br /&gt;
File:CrusadeEraBloodAngels.jpg|2nd Ed. box art. Note absence of nipples on armour.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Angels workout.png|Imperial /fit/izen encounters a Son of Sanguinius 020.M03&lt;br /&gt;
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|Name = Blood Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[Image:Blood_Angels_Pauldron.jpeg|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Emperor and Sanguinius! Death! DEATH!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = IX&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Eaters of the Dead, Revenant Legion, the Charnel Feast&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Angels Encarmine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Excelsis]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Glorious]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Angels of Light&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Penitent]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Vermillion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Atlantian Spears]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Dragons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Legion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Scythes]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Swords]] (claimed otherwise in Codex: Blood Angels 5th Edition by [[Matt Ward]], so take that as you will)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Brothers of Jarad]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Burning Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Carmine Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Charnel Guard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Cruor Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Exsanguinators]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Eaters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Tearers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Golden Sons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of the Chalice]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Lamenters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Red Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Brotherhood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Knights]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sanguine Host]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = [[Dante]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Sanguinius]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Baal]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Rapid assaults, close combat, being space vampires, having the Space Marine equivelent of the [[Red Rage]], being &#039;&#039;fabulous&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = ~1000 Marines&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Red with black detailing&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Man is neither angel nor beast, and the misfortune is that he who would act the angel acts the beast.|Blaise Pascal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|From his Blood are we born! From his essence are we made! From his passion comes our art! From his nobility comes beauty. From his might stems justice. From his thirst is born righteous rage!|The Final Charge of the [[Lord of the Rings|Rohirrim]]--err, Blood angels.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood; Fear the old blood.|Provost Willem, &#039;&#039;Bloodborne&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; were the 9th [[Space Marine]] Legion created by the [[Emperor]]. They are so named because of their tendency to &lt;br /&gt;
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The cause of the Black Rage basically amounts to the most epic case of an absent-daddy complex ever. Just with a high chance of being skullfuckingly angry/awesome at the same time. You see, during the [[Horus Heresy]], the Blood Angels&#039; [[Primarch]], [[Sanguinius]], was slain by [[Horus]] himself just before the Emperor destroyed Horus. This subsequently [[RAGE|fucked up]] the mental stability of all future generations of Blood Angels, and when one of them is overtaken by the Black Rage, he literally believes he is Sanguinius and relives in vivid detail the final battle with Horus and his traitor legions at the Battle of [[Terra]]. So in short, you know when someone says that they will kick you so hard in the balls your grandchildren will feel it, Horus actually did that.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
The IX Legion were not mentioned for many of the early actions of the Great Crusade. Their purpose was separate and unsightly. Their designed function was to utterly obliterate the enemy like an inferno, only growing in strength as the wars raged on and leaving nothing in their wake. So they were commonly deployed to radiation poisoned warzones, fighting against mutants and other undesirables that the Terrans would rather forget or ignore.&lt;br /&gt;
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To this end, the IX Legion had a very peculiar gene-seed quirk: where other legions had to be fairly selective with the genetic purity of their recruits, the Ninth could recruit from practically anyone, not only the broken and downtrodden, but also deformed mutants that might not even be considered human anymore. The IX gene-seed allowed miraculous transformations that created uniformly elegant and fair Astartes from any source, meaning the legion could recruit from practically any world, no matter how poisoned.  [[Derp|Gotta wonder why this wasn’t standard...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the early days, their reputation for such transformations meant they were followed around by throngs of pilgrims, all baying and petitioning for the chance to become Astartes, eventually forming a &amp;quot;cult&amp;quot; called the &#039;&#039;&#039;Red Brothers&#039;&#039;&#039; who wove a tradition of mysticism around the Angels of the Ninth, collecting cast-off munitions and damaged armour plate; They even started attempting to sponsor good candidates for Astartes and weeding out the weaker ones. Sufficed to say, such a cult would not last when the [[Emperor]] proclaimed his [[Imperial Truth]], and somewhat ironically, the Ninth would be the ones to destroy them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to their apparent resilience and proclivity for eating the bodies of the dead, the Ninth Legion would become known as The Revenants, this was because both the legion itself and its members seemed to come back from the dead as well as their Omophagea-induced habits. The legion was repeatedly deployed into bloody and toxic warzones that should have wiped them out, only to emerge stronger at the end; and the legion&#039;s officers had what appeared to be a remarkably long lifespan. This latter detail was in fact an illusion covering up a far more grisly truth: when an officer of the Revenants died, his successor would eat the body and take on his name.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coming of the Primarch===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood angel aspirants.jpg|300px|thumb|left|Welcome motherfuckers, have some blood. You&#039;ll be as pretty as us in no time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; Primarch was [[Sanguinius]], who was best known for being a [[Pretty_Marines|pretty]] [[Mutant]], a charismatic guy with a bad temper that made him look like Satan, and he was apparently a total bro. Basically, to the Space Marine legions and the rest of the Primarchs, he was [[This Guy]]. They all loved him. Even Horus, after he fell to [[Chaos]], lamented that Sanguinius in particular was no longer by his side. Sanguinius was so charismatic and batshit loyal that when he met the Emperor for the first time, he dropped to his knees and simply begged that the lives of those who worshiped him be spared, and the Emperor [[awesome|agreed and withheld the Imperial Truth from Baal.]] He also had a pair of huge, angel-like wings; no one is sure if this had something to do with the radiation on Baal or if he just came out of his birthing pod like that, but the citizens of Baal nearly killed him for it when he was found at the site now known as Angel&#039;s Fall. ([[Emperor|Emprah]] have mercy on anyone who uses the [[Mutant|m-word]] around the Blood Angels, though.) Many of the Blood Angels imitate the power and majesty of their beloved Primarch&#039;s wings by focusing on jump pack assaults, so the Blood Angels and their successor chapters doctrinally see a lot more [[Assault Squad]]s than the typical Space Marine army. Their current Chapter Master is [[Dante]], the oldest non-Dreadnought-interred loyalist Space Marine in history. &lt;br /&gt;
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They had a brotherly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] (if only the [[Imperial Fists]]/[[Iron Warriors]] and [[Ultramarines]]/[[Word Bearers]] could have managed that…) which got pretty messy when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. They were at the forefront during the [[Siege of Terra]] where Sanguinius died in the final hours and the Black Rage set in. In the [[Second Founding]], the Chapter was divided like the other legions. First Captain [[Raldoron]] became the first Chapter Master of the Blood Angels Chapter, starting the illustrious legacy currently held by Dante, who took office as the last surviving line officer after Chapter Master Remael and most of the Chapter command were killed in action.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Warhammer 40K blood angels wallpaper (1).jpg|300px|thumbnail|right|A Marine putting the &#039;blood&#039; in &#039;Blood Angel&#039;. Diligently reminding everyone they used to be called the &amp;quot;Charnel Feast&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In times of dire need, they are aided by the [[Sanguinor]], a guy who seems to be a Blood Angel in a more literal sense. Maybe he&#039;s some psychic manifestation of the Chapter. Maybe he&#039;s a ghost of Sanguinius. Nobody knows. The important thing is that he enjoys piledriving [[Bloodthirsters]] from space, killing [[Eldar]] [[Khaine|Avatars]], and killing a bunch of Night Lords, saving Dante&#039;s life in the process as it was otherwise a textbook suicide mission, a redemptive one, to be specific.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and [[Hive Fleet Leviathan]] have been coming to devour their homeworld [[Baal]] for a few editions while it is also being attacked by a [[Khorne|Khornate]] army led by their ancient enemy, the [[Bloodthirster]] [[Ka&#039;bandha]]. 8th edition &amp;quot;progressed&amp;quot; the story with the attack and [[Devastation of Baal|devastation of the Baal]] system where the Blood Angels and almost all their successor chapters were ready to receive them. Both moons were stripped of all life (yummy yummy radioactive wastes) and the main planet was wrecked with trillions of bugs, with the last survivors making one last charge--facing their fate like men in the ruins of the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is when the [[Great Rift]] opened up and cut Baal from the real space, yet the [[Tyranids]] on the ground forgot about the synapse shenanigans and continued to enjoy their first winning campaign since like forever. By the time the Warp was stable, all the bug-ships had vanished and Ka&#039;Bandha had wiped out everything on one of Baal&#039;s moons--but in an odd show of his tsundere side for the Blood Angels, primarily summoned his lesser ilk to fight off the Tyranids, until the chapter master of the [[Knights of Blood]] chapter, Sentor Jool, engaged the Bloodthirster in single combat, which sounds stupid, but actually comes off completely fuckawesome and manly...while also being a pretty stupid thing to do. &lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily for them the cicatrix maledictum had royally fucked up the hive fleet, completely disappearing some portions and annihilating the rest. The Blood Angels last stand culminated in Dante further fucking over the hive mind in a good bout of fisticuffs with the [[Swarmlord]]. The [[Legion of the Damned]] and the [[Sanguinor]] provided timely reinforcement, appearing to lead his Blood Angels brethren in a heroic last stand against Hive Fleet Leviathan, where the Chapter Master [[anal circumference|meltagunned The Swarmlord&#039;s face off]] [[Awesome|after being impaled, allowing the rest of his squad to live]]. The Sanguinor took off after that, but not after he managed to [[Noblebright|renew the Astartes&#039; faith in humanity.]] [[Derp|True salvation]] arrived when the warp storms abated and the arrival of the [[Indomitus Crusade]]. Though [[Roboute Guilliman]] confided later that all they really had to do was finish off the stragglers that had survived the fleet and the warp storms--which was a nice clean way to provide some dignity to the severely depleted Sons of Sanguinius for the fanboys who had already been rolling their eyes over their [[Spiritual Liege]] coming to save them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Baal Primus is a blasted shithole now (well...more of one, anyway) and is now uninhabited. In an odd show of [[noblebright]], Guilliman ordered the mechanicus to terraform Baal Secundus back into its paradisal state before the long night, [[Wat|apparently something they&#039;ve long been able to do, they just kept it shitty to make for better (read:Tougher) recruits.]] Afterwards Big Bobby-G in a decidedly bro-tier move made Commander Dante the Warden of Imperium Nihilus--effectively ceding command of wholly HALF of the Imperium (the shitty half maybe...) and restored their ability to create new marines, provided fresh [[gene-seed]] and were granted the ability to produce new [[Primaris Space Marines]] along with all of the existing Primaris marines with Sanguinius&#039; bloodline. They capped off the noblebright with allowing all the mortal boys who fought in defense of Baal to become Blood Angels, no questions asked, as they had already proven their worth defending their world. So a bit of a rollercoaster of emotions that day, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Combat Doctrine==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Helmet Colours.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Helmets for the Blood Angels play a very important part in their chapter—easy color coding to identify squad type &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; an incentive to keep your sexy face covered to [[Nemeroth|prevent easily avoidable death by helmetlessness]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels took the establishment of the [[Codex Astartes]] as official Space Marine doctrine with [[Imperial Fists|notably less]] [[Space Wolves|bitching than]] [[Salamanders|other chapters]] due to the death of their Primarch and the onset of the Black Rage. They follow the strictures of the Codex as far as they see wisdom in it: the chapter is comprised of a thousand Blood Angels and divided into ten companies, each of which is headed by a captain. The First Company is comprised of veterans, and the Tenth Company is comprised of Scouts and Neophytes who have not yet become full Marines. Obviously though, none of the blood rituals and other [[Pretend|weird shit]] is Codex-approved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like their brethren in the [[Raven Guard]] though, the Blood Angels have a natural predilection for using jump packs and their own free will ([[Ultramarines|as opposed to blindly]] [[Red Scorpions|following the Codex]]). Due to their chapter&#039;s [[Black Rage|curse]], they have had to tweak things a bit; once they complete their training as Scouts, Blood Angels immediately go into [[Assault Squad|Assault Squads]] rather than [[Devastator Squad|Devastator Squads]], as the Codex Astartes would have it, though not only because of these little scamps&#039; brashness. The constant close combat also allows Blood Angel officers to identify the noobs who can control their Red Thirst as well as those who cannot, and thereafter keep tabs on the latter group. Devastator Squads in the Blood Angels Chapter are reserved for Marines who have better control of the Red Thirst than most, because heavy fire support isn&#039;t very useful when the people providing it have psychopathic ADD. &lt;br /&gt;
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The few Blood Angels that decide they don&#039;t like jumping like maniacs into swarms of enemies, and instead prefer biking like maniacs into swarms of enemies, are regarded as some of the best biker Marines in the Imperium, following closely behind the [[White Scars]] and the Dark Angels&#039; [[Ravenwing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR Blood Angels hit shit until it dies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tools of the Trade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Tumblr niexunCRca1tvfheeo1 1280.jpg|300px|left|thumb|[[Sanguinius]] proclaimed, &amp;quot;War is an art form,&amp;quot; and the Blood Angels said, &amp;quot;Well, that sounds [[Pretty Marines|absolutely fabulous]]. Get me some gold.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are known throughout the Imperium to be master artisans. Their long lifespans allow them time to perfect whatever trade they set their mind to, whether they are crafting the infamous, hand-sculpted artificer &#039;nipple&#039; armour, [[What|bolters worth more than an Imperial hive city]], or even if they&#039;re simply painting vehicles and power armour. The philosophy behind this practice is that you cannot hope to know the value of what you&#039;re fighting for if you cannot understand its beauty.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are also known for their prevalent use of [[flamer|flamers]] and [[melta]] weapons. While they don&#039;t employ them as plentifully as the [[Salamanders]] do, they are nearly as masterfully constructed. The Sons of Sanguinius have taken a liking to the hand flamer, which gives them the assault capability of a flamer, but leaves their sword arm free to use in close combat. Heavy flamers can also be found in many of their Tactical Squads as an assault deterrent as well as on the side sponsons of Baal Predators to complement the Flamestorm Cannon, which ruins any infantry unit&#039;s day. &lt;br /&gt;
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They also reeeeeeally like the Inferno pistol. Many of them have one, including the [[Dante|Chapter Master]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The aforementioned Baal Predator is a unique tank manufactured by the Blood Angels. It is an anti-infantry assault tank equipped with [[Dakka|twin-linked assault cannons and heavy flamers]] that was acquired in a pre-heresy campaign that nearly broke all their relationships with the Mechanicus. Even to this day, things are still a bit touchy. Luckily, the Techmarines of the chapter quickly reverse engineered the overcharged &amp;quot;Lucifer-class&amp;quot; engines onto nearly all their vehicles. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; de facto relic weapons are called Glaive Encarmine—&#039;glaive&#039; apparently meaning &#039;sword&#039; in this case rather than the halberd-type weapon it&#039;s associated with (&amp;quot;glaives&amp;quot; comes from the Latin &amp;quot;gladius&amp;quot;, the common short sword of Roman era, so there you go). They&#039;re made out of a mono-filament metal called &#039;angel-steel&#039; and are purportedly so perfectly crafted that they never bend or warp. The secrets to their manufacture are jealously guarded by their Artificers (hopefully well-protected against &amp;quot;forgetting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;losing&amp;quot;). Instead of making armor out of it, of course.  This is represented by their master-crafted universal special rule. They come in two flavors, a Carmine Sword or a Carmine Axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Recruitment==&lt;br /&gt;
While [[Space Marine]] selection is naturally never soft, the Blood Angels&#039; methods are especially [[Grimdark]] by first taking their aspirants from [[Baal]] and its moons and requiring them journey through canyons and a fucking large desert (which are crawling with monsters and radioactive...though probably like the rest of [[Baal]]) to reach Angel&#039;s Fall, where [[Sanguinius]] was first found. After that, the surviving Aspirants kill each other in gladiatorial contests until fifty victors are chosen. &#039;&#039;Then&#039;&#039; they have to observe a vigil for 72 hours (any who fall asleep are taken away and never seen again), and finally after succeeding in that, the aspirants drink from a Blood Chalice provided by a Sanguinary Priest and fall into a coma (hopefully) for a year. They are then put into a life-support coffin for that year during which the gene-seed of [[Sanguinius]] implanted into them from the Blood Chalice changes them into Blood Angels. Many aspirants at this stage prove incompatible with the gene-seed and die during their confinement, [[Grimdark|others wake up too early from their coma and go insane from this solitary and claustrophobic imprisonment]], and the rest are the newest additions to the Blood Angels chapter when they wake up after a year.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously you probably have better odds living through a war than going through this shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gene Seed==&lt;br /&gt;
The Blood Angels&#039; themes and motifs are drawn from vampire and Faustian mythology as well as Catholic traditions &amp;amp; Italian renaissance style. They [[Beakie|commonly fly (with jump packs)]], [[Twilight|are eternally youthful]], [[Vampire|drink blood, and sleep in coffins]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels are noted for naturally living longer on average than the Marines of any other chapter. Although, since there is no baseline standard for how long Astartes are supposed to live in the first place, and no Space Marine has ever been shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age (outside of those that have been affected by the Hrud), this claim kinda rings a little hollow (although any marine worth his salt will die of being slowed down by age before it&#039;s enough to finish him off). Even [[Dante]]&#039;s age of over 1000 years isn&#039;t unique to his lineage, as there have been several other notable Astartes from other legion bloodlines that have managed a similar lifespan. By and large, Space Marines only die when they are killed, so, the only real ways Blood Angels can live considerably longer than &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; space marines is if they either [[Reasonable Marines|don&#039;t put themselves at risk as much as normal marines]], or [[Rip and tear|they&#039;re so ded &#039;ard that they&#039;re just harder to kill than normal marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus Heresy: Malevolence explains the longevity in a somewhat ironic fashion, given what we already know of Astartes physiology. The Ninth Legion were renowned  for their long lifespans even during the early Great Crusade. What was less known was that the Legion had a habit of eating their dead captains after they fell in battle, with the Omophagea implant allowing the memories and battle experience to be retained for a future generation. Some recipients of these memories would take up the identity of the dead officer and give the outward appearance that they had never died at all. It was said that the Legion&#039;s master prior to Sanguinius&#039; recovery had gone through several such reincarnations before his final death when the body was destroyed beyond recognition. Sufficed to say that after Sanguinius arrived, things changed and thereafter took being called the &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Eaters of the Dead&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as cause for grievous offense.  Which is dumb because using the Omophagea like this is brilliant and means each Astartes would be far more competent than he normally would be.  Many Marines would gain veteran levels of experience and skill without having to spend decades or centuries gaining it.  What did Sanguinius think the Omophagea was for?  Not eating people?  Pfft.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a Blood Angel does die, a [[Sanguinary Priest]] (what they call their [[Apothecaries]]) extracts his gene-seed using a device called an exsanguinator. When it comes time to implant it in an Initiate, the Initiate must receive it by drinking from a Blood Chalice (&#039;insanguination&#039;), which also contains the essence of Sanguinius. The story of [[Mephiston]], the Blood Angels&#039; chief librarian, closely parallels the legend of Faust, a scholar who sells his soul to the devil in return for great knowledge and power (hell, he&#039;s named after the manifestation of the devil in the story, Mephistopheles or Mephisto). The names of their special characters and vehicles have an Italian flavor—Dante, the Furioso Dreadnought, Brother Corbulo. Corbulo, known as the chapter&#039;s High Sanguinary Priest, carries the Red Grail, which contains the blood of Sanguinius himself. Also, do we have to point out that the word &#039;sanguis&#039; literally means &#039;blood&#039; in Latin? Well, there you go. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels and their successor chapters have a genetic defect in their gene-seed known euphemistically as &amp;quot;The Flaw&amp;quot;. It seems to have much more representation in the [[fluff]] than in the [[crunch]], but that&#039;s standard fare for a life-threatening, damnation-courting mutation that can pop up at any time. One chapter, Angels Penitent, managed to stave the defects off until they were fucked over by Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Red Thirst===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Red Thirst is what makes the Blood Angels space vampires,&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; or Team Edward &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|PURGE THE UNCOMFORTABLE THEMATIC PARALLELS OF POPULAR CULTURE!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Red Thirst]] has been a part of being a Blood Angel since the [[Great Crusade]]. Sanguinius went to great lengths to hide it from the Emperor for fear of being [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|expunged from the Imperium]], although odds are that the Emperor already knew. He even introduced [[Chaplain]]s to the Blood Angels legions before the Edict of Nikaea, not just to monitor psykers, but to look out for brothers who might be giving in to their bloodlust.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the lore the general effect is that the Red Thirst makes a Blood Angel an [[Angry Marine]] with a literal thirst for actual goddamn blood. Thus most Blood Angel Chaplains require certification for anger management therapy before they get the job. Their duty is to ensure that the assorted Marines are not showing signs of bloodlust, and to throw them into a battle if they are [[Grimdark|so they can stave off total madness a bit longer]]. A Blood Angel can suppress his Red Thirst simply by fighting in battle. However, sometimes, a Blood Angel will see the memories of Sanguinius’ death upon the Vengeful Spirit. This will inevitably trigger the second, and more devastating, part of the Flaw- the Black Rage. After this, their lives will consist of utterly suicidal front-line charges to [[rip and tear]] the enemy as much as possible, before they eventually receive an honorable death in combat against the Emperor&#039;s foes. Those unlucky enough to survive to the end of the battle will either be given [[Blam|the Emperor&#039;s Peace]] by [[Astorath]], or [[Grimdark|imprisoned within the Tower of the Lost as a hopeless, dribbling maniac until they are required on the field of battle once more.]] This happened in Devastation of Baal, where the victims of the curse were seen as having mutated into hulking beasts who moved on all fours like gorillas. They were released to hold off the hordes of Daemons and Tyranids.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood-angel-dantewontdie.jpg|thumb|right|300px|I told you about the Red Thirst bro!]]Some chapters are more susceptible than others. The imaginatively named &amp;quot;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;quot; are notorious amongst their allies for allegedly leaving exsanguinated corpses wherever they show up. On the upside, Blood Drinkers are one of the few chapters who have [[Deathwatch (RPG)|tangible rules]] regarding how they handle the Red Thirst: if they have recently sated themselves, they gain a boost to WS, and suffer penalties to morale checks if they refrain from feeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this has historically been changed in every single incarnation of the rules as GW continually changed their minds over how the Thirst should be represented; in 7th edition, they just give the flat bonus of Furious Charge to everything (including dreadnoughts); but if you get a bunch of Blood Angels together in the correct FOC or formation, then they also get +1 to Initiative when charging (&#039;&#039;á la&#039;&#039; old-school Furious Charge), which is a very strong advantage. In 5th edition, Red Thirst had the odd consequence of occasionally making a unit Fearless and Furious Chargers if they give into the temptation, though independent characters had enough control over themselves that they were mostly immune, with a [[Erasmus Tycho|few]] exceptions. Going further back, into 3rd edition, the Red Thirst made a bit more sense and was something to actually be wary of, as your units had a potential to lose control at the thought of blood and move out of position towards the enemy. This really wasn&#039;t [[fun]], especially if your Devastator Squads didn&#039;t pull that critical round of shooting.&lt;br /&gt;
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New in 8th it comes back with a vengeance. Allowing any infantry who charged, has been charged, or is performing a heroic intervention, to add +1 to the to wound roll. Meaning, when red thirst is in affect, [[awesome|you&#039;ll never be wounding on anything worse than 5+]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Black Rage===&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the [[Black Rage]] is the Red Thirst&#039;s angrier, more troublesome brother. You know, the one who dresses in black all the time, and who shows up at random times to complicate your life and embarrass your family. It&#039;s a terminal state in which the battle brother has not only succumbed to the Red Thirst, but has had a total psychotic breakdown. Or if you&#039;re feeling particularly poetic: it&#039;s the psychic scream of a dying demi-god that got stuck in his progeny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Battle-brothers who succumb to the Black Rage are overcome with visions of Blood Angel battles during the [[Horus Heresy]], and a few even imagine themselves to be [[Pretend|Sanguinius battling Horus on his battle barge]]. This of course has the unfortunate side effect of making them completely lose touch with reality, fighting a battle that they can never ever win since the outcome of the hallucinations has already occurred. On the plus side though, their disconnection with what is going on around them turns them into immensely powerful warriors, since each and every one of them believe in some way that they are Sanguinius.  You’re basically left with Sanguinius with an Astartes body and the Primarch’s incredible skill.  [[Awesome|It’s as terrifying and awesome as it sounds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, a Marine afflicted with the Black Rage will become even angrier than an [[Angry Marine]], and with even less self-control(which means they are effectively each Nightbringer crossed with Commissar Fuklaw. If you happen to be in the same star system of one of these, pray to the god emperor they don&#039;t sense you. If you don&#039;t happen to worship the God-Emperor, silently hope your gods are OK with suicide, because the alternative is too nightmarishly gruesome for even Games Workshop to describe in sufficient detail). If this happens in a war zone, they are quietly organized into small squads and their armor is painted black by a chaplain before the worst of the hallucinations take over. If they aren&#039;t killed in battle or get off the leash somehow, [[Astorath]] will come and execute them on the battlefield since no other Blood Angel has the stomach (or outright skill) to kill his own battle brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:True Blood Angels.jpg|150px|thumb|Blood Angel confronts his true form. And you thought the [[Wulfen]] looked weird]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Death Company]] is a group of Blood Angels on the battlefield who are afflicted by the [[Black Rage]]. Every force of Blood Angels and their successor chapters has one, though [[Flesh Tearers|some]] are more susceptible than [[Lamenters|others]], which makes those chapters&#039; responses to the occurrence of Black Rage quite varied. The [[Flesh Tearers]] and the renegade [[Knights of Blood]] chapters both have an uncanny predilection for all-out, balls-to-the-wall assault—hoping to die in battle honorably before the rage takes them. In the Knights of Blood&#039;s case, they fought with the zeal of the [[Black Templars]], the fury of the [[World Eaters]], and the excess of the [[Marines Malevolent]] in such a perfect way that they got kicked out of the [[Imperium of Man|cool kids club]] and branded renegades for their excess collateral damage against allied forces. The Flesh Tearers very nearly joined that shit list, and were only forgiven by the Blood Angels when [[Plot armor|Astorath personally intervened on their behalf, citing that their brutality would be a necessity in the near future]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this essentially allows you to bring a squad of [[Khorne Berserkers]] without the [[Khorne]], but with more customization options. You can also take several squads if Astorath has shown up, as he always seems to know where and when his brothers will succumb.&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Red Thirst, [[Games Workshop|GW]] keep changing the rules with these guys; nowadays you can purchase units of Death Company as Elite choices for your army at a not-insignificant cost, whilst in 6th they were Troops, but were so far down the path of being drooling lunatics that they couldn&#039;t hold objectives, and you could only have one squad unless [[Astorath]] was watching. In ancient times, it used to happen spontaneously for free, and you had to roll for squads at the start of battle, potentially losing members of squads you already paid for to bulk up your Death Company, which made fluff-sense. But at least you chose which model to take off, and sending a veteran sergeant to the Death Company was the only way of giving power weapon/fists (excluding the chaplain) to the squad. Losing a [[Terminator|Termie]] or tooled-up honour guard made you cry though...&lt;br /&gt;
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==In a nutshell==&lt;br /&gt;
A redditor by the name of redsonatnight explained what the Blood angels are about thusly.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;To paraphrase Pratchett, they&#039;re &#039;where the falling angel meets the rising ape.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The Blood Angels, more than any other Legion, &#039;&#039;&#039;strive&#039;&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;They have the potential to be more bareserk than the Wolves, more savage than the World Eaters and more blood-drenched than the Night Lords, and for a while they were - look up their history as the Revenant Legion before Sanguinius took them in.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And now, despite essentially having the Doom Eternal soundtrack playing constantly in their ear, despite losing the father that made them find their better nature, they work harder than almost any other loyal Chapter to maintain a humanity they never really possessed. They paint, they sculpt, they help people, all while something in them screams to open children like Capri Suns and bathe in the overflow.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The Blood Angels work really hard to be good people. That&#039;s what makes them noble.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily rituals of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn of War.jpg|200px|thumb|left|alt text|Dante pwns some noobs as [[Astorath]] and [[Mephiston]] look on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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04:00 - Reveille - The Blood Angels are roused from their coffins to start the day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:10 - Grooming - The Blood Angels take the time to comb their hair and brush their teeth. Special attention is given to their fangs. Even more special attention is given to their long, flowing, golden hair.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:30 - Morning meal - A light meal is prepared by the chapter serfs for the Blood Angels. Consuming a chapter serf is explicitly prohibited.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
05:00 - Morning prayer.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
06:00 - Morning firing rituals - The Blood Angels assemble for target practice. Due to an ancient clerical error, the Blood Angels are in possession of an excessive amount of a heretical series of books from the pre-Imperial days of Terra called the [[Twilight|Twilight Saga]], which they use for target practice by the thousands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle practice - The Blood Angels begin practice in the battle cages. Frequently, the Blood Angels will forgo their bolters for melee weapons. The usage of fangs in combat practice is considered heresy. Using fangs to drink blood is extra Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12:00 - Midday meal - The Blood Angels consume a light meal made for them by the chapter serfs. The chapter serfs are still explicitly off the menu.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13:00 - Deep strike training - The Blood Angels practice their deep strike maneuvers. Pretending to fly like a bat is heresy. Transforming into a bat or black mist to fly is extra Tzeentchian heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:00 - Evening firing rituals. During this time, several Blood Angels also practice the shooting style of a legendary Terran gunslinger known as Nosferatu Alucard, a proto-Blood Angel who was said to have slain thousands of daemons alone using only two blessed stub pistols.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:55 - Milk and Cookies Break. Drinking blood instead of milk or dipping cookies in milk is strictly banned. Dipping cookies in blood is Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:00 - Staring contests - Dumbasses who want to challenge Chief Librarian Mephiston to a menacing staring contest do so now. Usually it&#039;s just the neophytes who don&#039;t know any better.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:15 - Round up - Staring contests end, and those who went mad while staring into Mephiston&#039;s eyes must be tracked down in the fortress-monastery and culled.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:30 - Evening prayer. Special attention is given to how fabulous Sanguinius was and why they can&#039;t wait to tear the heretical Chaos idiots multiple new assholes (hint, it involves blood). &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:00 - Evening meal - A feast is prepared by the chapter serfs, usually of animals who were killed during the deep strike training. The chapter serf is still forbidden to eat them. Using the Red Grail in drinking contests is explicitly prohibited by order of the Sanguinary Priests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:30- All loose [[Death Company]] personnel are rounded up, heavily sedated, and locked into their stasis cell for the night.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
20:00 - Free time - The Blood Angels are allowed a few hours of free time to do as they please. Some reflect on their duty to the Emperor and the deeds of Sanguinius. Others play vidya games. [[Pretty Marines|Some just pose moodily and bare-chested in front of a mirror]]. Still others will engage in artistic activities. A GOOD vampire movie is often shown for the Blood Angels&#039; entertainment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
00:00 - Rest - The Blood Angels retire to their coffins for the evening.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinius]] - Primarch. Snaps [[Bloodthirster]] spines over his knee and decapitates [[Keeper of Secrets|Keepers of Secrets]] for the [[lulz]]. Sacrificed himself to aid in the ultimate defeat of [[Horus]]. May he rest in peace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meros]] - Apothecary during the Horus Heresy. Sacrificed himself so that Sanguinius could righteously fuck up a Keeper of Secrets.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azkaellon]] - Captain of the Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinius&#039; overprotective mother in short.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raldoron]] - First Captain of the Legion, later first Chapter Master of the chapter. Regarded highly alongside Sigismund, Kharne, Sevatar, etc. and noted to be a quality, good &#039;ol fashioned general.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nassir Amit]] - Yup, he eventually became the first Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]], but he was one of the OG Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dominion Zephon - Crippled Blood Angel who represented the Legion on Terra before the Heresy. [[Awesome|Took on Drach&#039;nyen in the Webway]] with a chainsword despite only recently having the feeling restored in his limbs, living out the &amp;quot;drive me closer&amp;quot; meme. All around elegan/tg/entleman able to play the harp well enough to make mutants weep and able to fight just as well. Counteracts the insipid autism of Diocletion Coros during &#039;Master of Mankind&#039; by being just a swell dude. Also, makes a Knight Baroness&#039; panties reenact Genesis 7:17.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Current Chapter Master. Resident badass sexy-grandpa. Seriously, dude&#039;s hella old and prefers not to mention anything about having a Necron&#039;s cell phone number.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mephiston]] - Chief Librarian and resident rape train. Scariest motherfucker this side of the [[Eye of Terror]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Corbulo]] - High [[Sanguinary Priest]]. Sees far, just not far enough, into the future.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astorath]] - Keeper of Sanctity and the dude who kills Death Company nutjobs when they nutjob way too hard.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lemartes]] - Chaplain and the Guardian of the Lost, and the only Blood Angel to hold the Black Rage in check. Ranks #2 behind the Eversor Assassin as the most 40K and [[grimdark]] thing in 40K.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karlaen|Arenos Karlaen]] - 1st Company captain and total bro. Has a model thanks to 7E&#039;s Deathstorm Box.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donatos Aphael]]- 2nd company captain. Very supportive of blood drinking, with good results to back his actions. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erasmus Tycho]] - 3rd company captain. Proof that [[Your dudes]] has a reason to exist. Sadly could not quell the Black Rage, but still worth a fight no doubt. No longer among the living. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moriar the Chosen]] - Matt Ward&#039;s excuse for making generic Death Company Dreadnoughts a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rafen]] - Longest living Blood Angel mook in any of the Blood Angels book series. Single handedly bested Arkio (possessed monster) and further aided Mephiston in staving off the Black Rage for a second time. Also wielded the Spear of Tolesto, though only briefly. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinor]] - Started off being a random dude who was chosen to be Sanguinius&#039; herald during [[Imperium Secundus]], then later stood in his Primarch&#039;s place on Davin and got drawn into the warp while transforming into an angelic being. Nowadays he may be Sanguinius reborn... or Azkaellon... or a warp entity created by the longings of the Blood Angels... DAMMIT! IT&#039;S COMPLICATED. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Acrion]] - Random captain that thought he could stand up to [[Abaddon]] during the 7th Black Crusade. He couldn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thalastian Jorus]] - Fuckawesome Reclusiarch that succeeded in standing up to Abaddon--killed &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; his [[Bringers of Despair|Honour Guard]], thoroughly wrecked the [[Black Legion]] by utilizing [[Wat|guerrilla tactics with the Death Company of all things]] AND became one of like 3 people in the Imperium to go toe to toe with the Despoiler and come out on top, gravely wounding Abby before the Chaplain was killed by the Black Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chapter Master Slamguinius|Brother Slamguinius, the Slambane, 9th lord of slamfuckery]] - The newest hope to rise out of the Blood Angel&#039;s 8th edition codex, and by far the punchiest thing to ever come out of one of our codices from a basic Captain template in recent years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Blood Angels (9E)|Blood Angels Tactics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bloodquest]] - A comic &amp;amp; audio drama centered around the redemption quest of a fallen Captain and his crew.&lt;br /&gt;
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File:The Red Angel.jpg|Manly Vampires, IN SPESS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Admit It.jpg|You know it to be true.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BloodAngels3rd.jpg|Older Blood Angels art. Is that Christopher Lee in the lower left corner? Well, using Dracula as a model makes sense...&lt;br /&gt;
File:CrusadeEraBloodAngels.jpg|2nd Ed. box art. Note absence of nipples on armour.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Angels workout.png|Imperial /fit/izen encounters a Son of Sanguinius 020.M03&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Blood Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[Image:Blood_Angels_Pauldron.jpeg|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Emperor and Sanguinius! Death! DEATH!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = IX&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Eaters of the Dead, Revenant Legion, the Charnel Feast&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Angels Encarmine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Excelsis]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Glorious]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Angels of Light&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Penitent]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Vermillion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Atlantian Spears]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Dragons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Legion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Scythes]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Swords]] (claimed otherwise in Codex: Blood Angels 5th Edition by [[Matt Ward]], so take that as you will)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Brothers of Jarad]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Burning Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Carmine Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Charnel Guard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Cruor Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Exsanguinators]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Eaters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Tearers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Golden Sons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of the Chalice]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Lamenters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Red Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Brotherhood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Knights]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sanguine Host]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = [[Dante]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Sanguinius]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Baal]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Rapid assaults, close combat, being space vampires, having the Space Marine equivelent of the [[Red Rage]], being &#039;&#039;fabulous&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = ~1000 Marines&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Red with black detailing&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Man is neither angel nor beast, and the misfortune is that he who would act the angel acts the beast.|Blaise Pascal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|From his Blood are we born! From his essence are we made! From his passion comes our art! From his nobility comes beauty. From his might stems justice. From his thirst is born righteous rage!|The Final Charge of the [[Lord of the Rings|Rohirrim]]--err, Blood angels.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood; Fear the old blood.|Provost Willem, &#039;&#039;Bloodborne&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; were the 9th [[Space Marine]] Legion created by the [[Emperor]]. They are so named because of their tendency to &lt;br /&gt;
use blood as a central symbol of their particular warrior-monk rituals, and because of their susceptibility to the [[Red Thirst]], a wild bloodlust that arises in them during battle. If he fails to control his Red Thirst, a Blood Angel may succumb to the [[Black Rage]] (the [[Grimdark|Grimdarkest]] of Daddy Issues), after which he becomes a completely insane killing machine with no regard for his own safety who will try to destroy the Emperor&#039;s foes even if all he has left is a bloody stump of one leg. This has led to the Blood Angels being viewed as basically vampires [[Meme|IN SPEHSS]], and unfortunately as the [[Twilight|Team Edward]] to the [[Space Wolves]] [[Twilight|Team Jacob]]. If you are not already completely indignant, see the second image at the bottom of the page for additional [[rage]]. We&#039;ll wait. …...Yeah, how much does that blow? Here&#039;s the good news, though: that&#039;s pretty much the only thing that sucks (PUN) about the Blood Angels. Everything else is [[awesome]] apart maybe from [[Skub|&#039;nipple&#039; armour]], but the rest is all cool, angelic and bloody and all. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cause of the Black Rage basically amounts to the most epic case of an absent-daddy complex ever. Just with a high chance of being skullfuckingly angry/awesome at the same time. You see, during the [[Horus Heresy]], the Blood Angels&#039; [[Primarch]], [[Sanguinius]], was slain by [[Horus]] himself just before the Emperor destroyed Horus. This subsequently [[RAGE|fucked up]] the mental stability of all future generations of Blood Angels, and when one of them is overtaken by the Black Rage, he literally believes he is Sanguinius and relives in vivid detail the final battle with Horus and his traitor legions at the Battle of [[Terra]]. So in short, you know when someone says that they will kick you so hard in the balls your grandchildren will feel it, Horus actually did that.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
The IX Legion were not mentioned for many of the early actions of the Great Crusade. Their purpose was separate and unsightly. Their designed function was to utterly obliterate the enemy like an inferno, only growing in strength as the wars raged on and leaving nothing in their wake. So they were commonly deployed to radiation poisoned warzones, fighting against mutants and other undesirables that the Terrans would rather forget or ignore.&lt;br /&gt;
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To this end, the IX Legion had a very peculiar gene-seed quirk: where other legions had to be fairly selective with the genetic purity of their recruits, the Ninth could recruit from practically anyone, not only the broken and downtrodden, but also deformed mutants that might not even be considered human anymore. The IX gene-seed allowed miraculous transformations that created uniformly elegant and fair Astartes from any source, meaning the legion could recruit from practically any world, no matter how poisoned.  [[Derp|Gotta wonder why this wasn’t standard...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the early days, their reputation for such transformations meant they were followed around by throngs of pilgrims, all baying and petitioning for the chance to become Astartes, eventually forming a &amp;quot;cult&amp;quot; called the &#039;&#039;&#039;Red Brothers&#039;&#039;&#039; who wove a tradition of mysticism around the Angels of the Ninth, collecting cast-off munitions and damaged armour plate; They even started attempting to sponsor good candidates for Astartes and weeding out the weaker ones. Sufficed to say, such a cult would not last when the [[Emperor]] proclaimed his [[Imperial Truth]], and somewhat ironically, the Ninth would be the ones to destroy them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to their apparent resilience and proclivity for eating the bodies of the dead, the Ninth Legion would become known as The Revenants, this was because both the legion itself and its members seemed to come back from the dead as well as their Omophagea-induced habits. The legion was repeatedly deployed into bloody and toxic warzones that should have wiped them out, only to emerge stronger at the end; and the legion&#039;s officers had what appeared to be a remarkably long lifespan. This latter detail was in fact an illusion covering up a far more grisly truth: when an officer of the Revenants died, his successor would eat the body and take on his name.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coming of the Primarch===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood angel aspirants.jpg|300px|thumb|left|Welcome motherfuckers, have some blood. You&#039;ll be as pretty as us in no time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; Primarch was [[Sanguinius]], who was best known for being a [[Pretty_Marines|pretty]] [[Mutant]], a charismatic guy with a bad temper that made him look like Satan, and he was apparently a total bro. Basically, to the Space Marine legions and the rest of the Primarchs, he was [[This Guy]]. They all loved him. Even Horus, after he fell to [[Chaos]], lamented that Sanguinius in particular was no longer by his side. Sanguinius was so charismatic and batshit loyal that when he met the Emperor for the first time, he dropped to his knees and simply begged that the lives of those who worshiped him be spared, and the Emperor [[awesome|agreed and withheld the Imperial Truth from Baal.]] He also had a pair of huge, angel-like wings; no one is sure if this had something to do with the radiation on Baal or if he just came out of his birthing pod like that, but the citizens of Baal nearly killed him for it when he was found at the site now known as Angel&#039;s Fall. ([[Emperor|Emprah]] have mercy on anyone who uses the [[Mutant|m-word]] around the Blood Angels, though.) Many of the Blood Angels imitate the power and majesty of their beloved Primarch&#039;s wings by focusing on jump pack assaults, so the Blood Angels and their successor chapters doctrinally see a lot more [[Assault Squad]]s than the typical Space Marine army. Their current Chapter Master is [[Dante]], the oldest non-Dreadnought-interred loyalist Space Marine in history. &lt;br /&gt;
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They had a brotherly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] (if only the [[Imperial Fists]]/[[Iron Warriors]] and [[Ultramarines]]/[[Word Bearers]] could have managed that…) which got pretty messy when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. They were at the forefront during the [[Siege of Terra]] where Sanguinius died in the final hours and the Black Rage set in. In the [[Second Founding]], the Chapter was divided like the other legions. First Captain [[Raldoron]] became the first Chapter Master of the Blood Angels Chapter, starting the illustrious legacy currently held by Dante, who took office as the last surviving line officer after Chapter Master Remael and most of the Chapter command were killed in action.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Warhammer 40K blood angels wallpaper (1).jpg|300px|thumbnail|right|A Marine putting the &#039;blood&#039; in &#039;Blood Angel&#039;. Diligently reminding everyone they used to be called the &amp;quot;Charnel Feast&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In times of dire need, they are aided by the [[Sanguinor]], a guy who seems to be a Blood Angel in a more literal sense. Maybe he&#039;s some psychic manifestation of the Chapter. Maybe he&#039;s a ghost of Sanguinius. Nobody knows. The important thing is that he enjoys piledriving [[Bloodthirsters]] from space, killing [[Eldar]] [[Khaine|Avatars]], and killing a bunch of Night Lords, saving Dante&#039;s life in the process as it was otherwise a textbook suicide mission, a redemptive one, to be specific.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and [[Hive Fleet Leviathan]] have been coming to devour their homeworld [[Baal]] for a few editions while it is also being attacked by a [[Khorne|Khornate]] army led by their ancient enemy, the [[Bloodthirster]] [[Ka&#039;bandha]]. 8th edition &amp;quot;progressed&amp;quot; the story with the attack and [[Devastation of Baal|devastation of the Baal]] system where the Blood Angels and almost all their successor chapters were ready to receive them. Both moons were stripped of all life (yummy yummy radioactive wastes) and the main planet was wrecked with trillions of bugs, with the last survivors making one last charge--facing their fate like men in the ruins of the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is when the [[Great Rift]] opened up and cut Baal from the real space, yet the [[Tyranids]] on the ground forgot about the synapse shenanigans and continued to enjoy their first winning campaign since like forever. By the time the Warp was stable, all the bug-ships had vanished and Ka&#039;Bandha had wiped out everything on one of Baal&#039;s moons--but in an odd show of his tsundere side for the Blood Angels, primarily summoned his lesser ilk to fight off the Tyranids, until the chapter master of the [[Knights of Blood]] chapter, Sentor Jool, engaged the Bloodthirster in single combat, which sounds stupid, but actually comes off completely fuckawesome and manly...while also being a pretty stupid thing to do. &lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily for them the cicatrix maledictum had royally fucked up the hive fleet, completely disappearing some portions and annihilating the rest. The Blood Angels last stand culminated in Dante further fucking over the hive mind in a good bout of fisticuffs with the [[Swarmlord]]. The [[Legion of the Damned]] and the [[Sanguinor]] provided timely reinforcement, appearing to lead his Blood Angels brethren in a heroic last stand against Hive Fleet Leviathan, where the Chapter Master [[anal circumference|meltagunned The Swarmlord&#039;s face off]] [[Awesome|after being impaled, allowing the rest of his squad to live]]. The Sanguinor took off after that, but not after he managed to [[Noblebright|renew the Astartes&#039; faith in humanity.]] [[Derp|True salvation]] arrived when the warp storms abated and the arrival of the [[Indomitus Crusade]]. Though [[Roboute Guilliman]] confided later that all they really had to do was finish off the stragglers that had survived the fleet and the warp storms--which was a nice clean way to provide some dignity to the severely depleted Sons of Sanguinius for the fanboys who had already been rolling their eyes over their [[Spiritual Liege]] coming to save them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Baal Primus is a blasted shithole now (well...more of one, anyway) and is now uninhabited. In an odd show of [[noblebright]], Guilliman ordered the mechanicus to terraform Baal Secundus back into its paradisal state before the long night, [[Wat|apparently something they&#039;ve long been able to do, they just kept it shitty to make for better (read:Tougher) recruits.]] Afterwards Big Bobby-G in a decidedly bro-tier move made Commander Dante the Warden of Imperium Nihilus--effectively ceding command of wholly HALF of the Imperium (the shitty half maybe...) and restored their ability to create new marines, provided fresh [[gene-seed]] and were granted the ability to produce new [[Primaris Space Marines]] along with all of the existing Primaris marines with Sanguinius&#039; bloodline. They capped off the noblebright with allowing all the mortal boys who fought in defense of Baal to become Blood Angels, no questions asked, as they had already proven their worth defending their world. So a bit of a rollercoaster of emotions that day, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Combat Doctrine==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels took the establishment of the [[Codex Astartes]] as official Space Marine doctrine with [[Imperial Fists|notably less]] [[Space Wolves|bitching than]] [[Salamanders|other chapters]] due to the death of their Primarch and the onset of the Black Rage. They follow the strictures of the Codex as far as they see wisdom in it: the chapter is comprised of a thousand Blood Angels and divided into ten companies, each of which is headed by a captain. The First Company is comprised of veterans, and the Tenth Company is comprised of Scouts and Neophytes who have not yet become full Marines. Obviously though, none of the blood rituals and other [[Pretend|weird shit]] is Codex-approved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like their brethren in the [[Raven Guard]] though, the Blood Angels have a natural predilection for using jump packs and their own free will ([[Ultramarines|as opposed to blindly]] [[Red Scorpions|following the Codex]]). Due to their chapter&#039;s [[Black Rage|curse]], they have had to tweak things a bit; once they complete their training as Scouts, Blood Angels immediately go into [[Assault Squad|Assault Squads]] rather than [[Devastator Squad|Devastator Squads]], as the Codex Astartes would have it, though not only because of these little scamps&#039; brashness. The constant close combat also allows Blood Angel officers to identify the noobs who can control their Red Thirst as well as those who cannot, and thereafter keep tabs on the latter group. Devastator Squads in the Blood Angels Chapter are reserved for Marines who have better control of the Red Thirst than most, because heavy fire support isn&#039;t very useful when the people providing it have psychopathic ADD. &lt;br /&gt;
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The few Blood Angels that decide they don&#039;t like jumping like maniacs into swarms of enemies, and instead prefer biking like maniacs into swarms of enemies, are regarded as some of the best biker Marines in the Imperium, following closely behind the [[White Scars]] and the Dark Angels&#039; [[Ravenwing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR Blood Angels hit shit until it dies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tools of the Trade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Tumblr niexunCRca1tvfheeo1 1280.jpg|300px|left|thumb|[[Sanguinius]] proclaimed, &amp;quot;War is an art form,&amp;quot; and the Blood Angels said, &amp;quot;Well, that sounds [[Pretty Marines|absolutely fabulous]]. Get me some gold.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are known throughout the Imperium to be master artisans. Their long lifespans allow them time to perfect whatever trade they set their mind to, whether they are crafting the infamous, hand-sculpted artificer &#039;nipple&#039; armour, [[What|bolters worth more than an Imperial hive city]], or even if they&#039;re simply painting vehicles and power armour. The philosophy behind this practice is that you cannot hope to know the value of what you&#039;re fighting for if you cannot understand its beauty.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are also known for their prevalent use of [[flamer|flamers]] and [[melta]] weapons. While they don&#039;t employ them as plentifully as the [[Salamanders]] do, they are nearly as masterfully constructed. The Sons of Sanguinius have taken a liking to the hand flamer, which gives them the assault capability of a flamer, but leaves their sword arm free to use in close combat. Heavy flamers can also be found in many of their Tactical Squads as an assault deterrent as well as on the side sponsons of Baal Predators to complement the Flamestorm Cannon, which ruins any infantry unit&#039;s day. &lt;br /&gt;
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They also reeeeeeally like the Inferno pistol. Many of them have one, including the [[Dante|Chapter Master]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The aforementioned Baal Predator is a unique tank manufactured by the Blood Angels. It is an anti-infantry assault tank equipped with [[Dakka|twin-linked assault cannons and heavy flamers]] that was acquired in a pre-heresy campaign that nearly broke all their relationships with the Mechanicus. Even to this day, things are still a bit touchy. Luckily, the Techmarines of the chapter quickly reverse engineered the overcharged &amp;quot;Lucifer-class&amp;quot; engines onto nearly all their vehicles. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; de facto relic weapons are called Glaive Encarmine—&#039;glaive&#039; apparently meaning &#039;sword&#039; in this case rather than the halberd-type weapon it&#039;s associated with (&amp;quot;glaives&amp;quot; comes from the Latin &amp;quot;gladius&amp;quot;, the common short sword of Roman era, so there you go). They&#039;re made out of a mono-filament metal called &#039;angel-steel&#039; and are purportedly so perfectly crafted that they never bend or warp. The secrets to their manufacture are jealously guarded by their Artificers (hopefully well-protected against &amp;quot;forgetting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;losing&amp;quot;). Instead of making armor out of it, of course.  This is represented by their master-crafted universal special rule. They come in two flavors, a Carmine Sword or a Carmine Axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Recruitment==&lt;br /&gt;
While [[Space Marine]] selection is naturally never soft, the Blood Angels&#039; methods are especially [[Grimdark]] by first taking their aspirants from [[Baal]] and its moons and requiring them journey through canyons and a fucking large desert (which are crawling with monsters and radioactive...though probably like the rest of [[Baal]]) to reach Angel&#039;s Fall, where [[Sanguinius]] was first found. After that, the surviving Aspirants kill each other in gladiatorial contests until fifty victors are chosen. &#039;&#039;Then&#039;&#039; they have to observe a vigil for 72 hours (any who fall asleep are taken away and never seen again), and finally after succeeding in that, the aspirants drink from a Blood Chalice provided by a Sanguinary Priest and fall into a coma (hopefully) for a year. They are then put into a life-support coffin for that year during which the gene-seed of [[Sanguinius]] implanted into them from the Blood Chalice changes them into Blood Angels. Many aspirants at this stage prove incompatible with the gene-seed and die during their confinement, [[Grimdark|others wake up too early from their coma and go insane from this solitary and claustrophobic imprisonment]], and the rest are the newest additions to the Blood Angels chapter when they wake up after a year.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously you probably have better odds living through a war than going through this shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gene Seed==&lt;br /&gt;
The Blood Angels&#039; themes and motifs are drawn from vampire and Faustian mythology as well as Catholic traditions &amp;amp; Italian renaissance style. They [[Beakie|commonly fly (with jump packs)]], [[Twilight|are eternally youthful]], [[Vampire|drink blood, and sleep in coffins]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels are noted for naturally living longer on average than the Marines of any other chapter. Although, since there is no baseline standard for how long Astartes are supposed to live in the first place, and no Space Marine has ever been shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age (outside of those that have been affected by the Hrud), this claim kinda rings a little hollow (although any marine worth his salt will die of being slowed down by age before it&#039;s enough to finish him off). Even [[Dante]]&#039;s age of over 1000 years isn&#039;t unique to his lineage, as there have been several other notable Astartes from other legion bloodlines that have managed a similar lifespan. By and large, Space Marines only die when they are killed, so, the only real ways Blood Angels can live considerably longer than &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; space marines is if they either [[Reasonable Marines|don&#039;t put themselves at risk as much as normal marines]], or [[Rip and tear|they&#039;re so ded &#039;ard that they&#039;re just harder to kill than normal marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus Heresy: Malevolence explains the longevity in a somewhat ironic fashion, given what we already know of Astartes physiology. The Ninth Legion were renowned  for their long lifespans even during the early Great Crusade. What was less known was that the Legion had a habit of eating their dead captains after they fell in battle, with the Omophagea implant allowing the memories and battle experience to be retained for a future generation. Some recipients of these memories would take up the identity of the dead officer and give the outward appearance that they had never died at all. It was said that the Legion&#039;s master prior to Sanguinius&#039; recovery had gone through several such reincarnations before his final death when the body was destroyed beyond recognition. Sufficed to say that after Sanguinius arrived, things changed and thereafter took being called the &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Eaters of the Dead&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as cause for grievous offense.  Which is dumb because using the Omophagea like this is brilliant and means each Astartes would be far more competent than he normally would be.  Many Marines would gain veteran levels of experience and skill without having to spend decades or centuries gaining it.  What did Sanguinius think the Omophagea was for?  Not eating people?  Pfft.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a Blood Angel does die, a [[Sanguinary Priest]] (what they call their [[Apothecaries]]) extracts his gene-seed using a device called an exsanguinator. When it comes time to implant it in an Initiate, the Initiate must receive it by drinking from a Blood Chalice (&#039;insanguination&#039;), which also contains the essence of Sanguinius. The story of [[Mephiston]], the Blood Angels&#039; chief librarian, closely parallels the legend of Faust, a scholar who sells his soul to the devil in return for great knowledge and power (hell, he&#039;s named after the manifestation of the devil in the story, Mephistopheles or Mephisto). The names of their special characters and vehicles have an Italian flavor—Dante, the Furioso Dreadnought, Brother Corbulo. Corbulo, known as the chapter&#039;s High Sanguinary Priest, carries the Red Grail, which contains the blood of Sanguinius himself. Also, do we have to point out that the word &#039;sanguis&#039; literally means &#039;blood&#039; in Latin? Well, there you go. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels and their successor chapters have a genetic defect in their gene-seed known euphemistically as &amp;quot;The Flaw&amp;quot;. It seems to have much more representation in the [[fluff]] than in the [[crunch]], but that&#039;s standard fare for a life-threatening, damnation-courting mutation that can pop up at any time. One chapter, Angels Penitent, managed to stave the defects off until they were fucked over by Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Red Thirst===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BA&#039;s.jpg|thumb|left|500px|[[Ultramarines|You&#039;ll never see a Blood Angel go]] &amp;quot;Oh nooooes, a fleet of nice squishy flesh-bugs coming to devour our system, we&#039;re doooomed...&amp;quot;. Maybe because it&#039;s an excellent way to let loose for a bit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Red Thirst is what makes the Blood Angels space vampires,&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; or Team Edward &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|PURGE THE UNCOMFORTABLE THEMATIC PARALLELS OF POPULAR CULTURE!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Red Thirst]] has been a part of being a Blood Angel since the [[Great Crusade]]. Sanguinius went to great lengths to hide it from the Emperor for fear of being [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|expunged from the Imperium]], although odds are that the Emperor already knew. He even introduced [[Chaplain]]s to the Blood Angels legions before the Edict of Nikaea, not just to monitor psykers, but to look out for brothers who might be giving in to their bloodlust.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the lore the general effect is that the Red Thirst makes a Blood Angel an [[Angry Marine]] with a literal thirst for actual goddamn blood. Thus most Blood Angel Chaplains require certification for anger management therapy before they get the job. Their duty is to ensure that the assorted Marines are not showing signs of bloodlust, and to throw them into a battle if they are [[Grimdark|so they can stave off total madness a bit longer]]. A Blood Angel can suppress his Red Thirst simply by fighting in battle. However, sometimes, a Blood Angel will see the memories of Sanguinius’ death upon the Vengeful Spirit. This will inevitably trigger the second, and more devastating, part of the Flaw- the Black Rage. After this, their lives will consist of utterly suicidal front-line charges to [[rip and tear]] the enemy as much as possible, before they eventually receive an honorable death in combat against the Emperor&#039;s foes. Those unlucky enough to survive to the end of the battle will either be given [[Blam|the Emperor&#039;s Peace]] by [[Astorath]], or [[Grimdark|imprisoned within the Tower of the Lost as a hopeless, dribbling maniac until they are required on the field of battle once more.]] This happened in Devastation of Baal, where the victims of the curse were seen as having mutated into hulking beasts who moved on all fours like gorillas. They were released to hold off the hordes of Daemons and Tyranids.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood-angel-dantewontdie.jpg|thumb|right|300px|I told you about the Red Thirst bro!]]Some chapters are more susceptible than others. The imaginatively named &amp;quot;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;quot; are notorious amongst their allies for allegedly leaving exsanguinated corpses wherever they show up. On the upside, Blood Drinkers are one of the few chapters who have [[Deathwatch (RPG)|tangible rules]] regarding how they handle the Red Thirst: if they have recently sated themselves, they gain a boost to WS, and suffer penalties to morale checks if they refrain from feeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this has historically been changed in every single incarnation of the rules as GW continually changed their minds over how the Thirst should be represented; in 7th edition, they just give the flat bonus of Furious Charge to everything (including dreadnoughts); but if you get a bunch of Blood Angels together in the correct FOC or formation, then they also get +1 to Initiative when charging (&#039;&#039;á la&#039;&#039; old-school Furious Charge), which is a very strong advantage. In 5th edition, Red Thirst had the odd consequence of occasionally making a unit Fearless and Furious Chargers if they give into the temptation, though independent characters had enough control over themselves that they were mostly immune, with a [[Erasmus Tycho|few]] exceptions. Going further back, into 3rd edition, the Red Thirst made a bit more sense and was something to actually be wary of, as your units had a potential to lose control at the thought of blood and move out of position towards the enemy. This really wasn&#039;t [[fun]], especially if your Devastator Squads didn&#039;t pull that critical round of shooting.&lt;br /&gt;
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New in 8th it comes back with a vengeance. Allowing any infantry who charged, has been charged, or is performing a heroic intervention, to add +1 to the to wound roll. Meaning, when red thirst is in affect, [[awesome|you&#039;ll never be wounding on anything worse than 5+]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Black Rage===&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the [[Black Rage]] is the Red Thirst&#039;s angrier, more troublesome brother. You know, the one who dresses in black all the time, and who shows up at random times to complicate your life and embarrass your family. It&#039;s a terminal state in which the battle brother has not only succumbed to the Red Thirst, but has had a total psychotic breakdown. Or if you&#039;re feeling particularly poetic: it&#039;s the psychic scream of a dying demi-god that got stuck in his progeny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Battle-brothers who succumb to the Black Rage are overcome with visions of Blood Angel battles during the [[Horus Heresy]], and a few even imagine themselves to be [[Pretend|Sanguinius battling Horus on his battle barge]]. This of course has the unfortunate side effect of making them completely lose touch with reality, fighting a battle that they can never ever win since the outcome of the hallucinations has already occurred. On the plus side though, their disconnection with what is going on around them turns them into immensely powerful warriors, since each and every one of them believe in some way that they are Sanguinius.  You’re basically left with Sanguinius with an Astartes body and the Primarch’s incredible skill.  [[Awesome|It’s as terrifying and awesome as it sounds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, a Marine afflicted with the Black Rage will become even angrier than an [[Angry Marine]], and with even less self-control(which means they are effectively each Nightbringer crossed with Commissar Fuklaw. If you happen to be in the same star system of one of these, pray to the god emperor they don&#039;t sense you. If you don&#039;t happen to worship the God-Emperor, silently hope your gods are OK with suicide, because the alternative is too nightmarishly gruesome for even Games Workshop to describe in sufficient detail). If this happens in a war zone, they are quietly organized into small squads and their armor is painted black by a chaplain before the worst of the hallucinations take over. If they aren&#039;t killed in battle or get off the leash somehow, [[Astorath]] will come and execute them on the battlefield since no other Blood Angel has the stomach (or outright skill) to kill his own battle brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Death Company]] is a group of Blood Angels on the battlefield who are afflicted by the [[Black Rage]]. Every force of Blood Angels and their successor chapters has one, though [[Flesh Tearers|some]] are more susceptible than [[Lamenters|others]], which makes those chapters&#039; responses to the occurrence of Black Rage quite varied. The [[Flesh Tearers]] and the renegade [[Knights of Blood]] chapters both have an uncanny predilection for all-out, balls-to-the-wall assault—hoping to die in battle honorably before the rage takes them. In the Knights of Blood&#039;s case, they fought with the zeal of the [[Black Templars]], the fury of the [[World Eaters]], and the excess of the [[Marines Malevolent]] in such a perfect way that they got kicked out of the [[Imperium of Man|cool kids club]] and branded renegades for their excess collateral damage against allied forces. The Flesh Tearers very nearly joined that shit list, and were only forgiven by the Blood Angels when [[Plot armor|Astorath personally intervened on their behalf, citing that their brutality would be a necessity in the near future]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this essentially allows you to bring a squad of [[Khorne Berserkers]] without the [[Khorne]], but with more customization options. You can also take several squads if Astorath has shown up, as he always seems to know where and when his brothers will succumb.&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Red Thirst, [[Games Workshop|GW]] keep changing the rules with these guys; nowadays you can purchase units of Death Company as Elite choices for your army at a not-insignificant cost, whilst in 6th they were Troops, but were so far down the path of being drooling lunatics that they couldn&#039;t hold objectives, and you could only have one squad unless [[Astorath]] was watching. In ancient times, it used to happen spontaneously for free, and you had to roll for squads at the start of battle, potentially losing members of squads you already paid for to bulk up your Death Company, which made fluff-sense. But at least you chose which model to take off, and sending a veteran sergeant to the Death Company was the only way of giving power weapon/fists (excluding the chaplain) to the squad. Losing a [[Terminator|Termie]] or tooled-up honour guard made you cry though...&lt;br /&gt;
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==In a nutshell==&lt;br /&gt;
A redditor by the name of redsonatnight explained what the Blood angels are about thusly&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;To paraphrase Pratchett, they&#039;re &#039;where the falling angel meets the rising ape.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The Blood Angels, more than any other Legion, &#039;&#039;&#039;strive&#039;&#039;&#039;. They have the potential to be more bareserk than the Wolves, more savage than the World Eaters and more blood-drenched than the Night Lords, and for a while they were - look up their history as the Revenant Legion before Sanguinius took them in.&lt;br /&gt;
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And now, despite essentially having the Doom Eternal soundtrack playing constantly in their ear, despite losing the father that made them find their better nature, they work harder than almost any other loyal Chapter to maintain a humanity they never really possessed. They paint, they sculpt, they help people, all while something in them screams to open children like Capri Suns and bathe in the overflow.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily rituals of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
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04:00 - Reveille - The Blood Angels are roused from their coffins to start the day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:10 - Grooming - The Blood Angels take the time to comb their hair and brush their teeth. Special attention is given to their fangs. Even more special attention is given to their long, flowing, golden hair.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:30 - Morning meal - A light meal is prepared by the chapter serfs for the Blood Angels. Consuming a chapter serf is explicitly prohibited.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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06:00 - Morning firing rituals - The Blood Angels assemble for target practice. Due to an ancient clerical error, the Blood Angels are in possession of an excessive amount of a heretical series of books from the pre-Imperial days of Terra called the [[Twilight|Twilight Saga]], which they use for target practice by the thousands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle practice - The Blood Angels begin practice in the battle cages. Frequently, the Blood Angels will forgo their bolters for melee weapons. The usage of fangs in combat practice is considered heresy. Using fangs to drink blood is extra Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12:00 - Midday meal - The Blood Angels consume a light meal made for them by the chapter serfs. The chapter serfs are still explicitly off the menu.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13:00 - Deep strike training - The Blood Angels practice their deep strike maneuvers. Pretending to fly like a bat is heresy. Transforming into a bat or black mist to fly is extra Tzeentchian heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:00 - Evening firing rituals. During this time, several Blood Angels also practice the shooting style of a legendary Terran gunslinger known as Nosferatu Alucard, a proto-Blood Angel who was said to have slain thousands of daemons alone using only two blessed stub pistols.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:55 - Milk and Cookies Break. Drinking blood instead of milk or dipping cookies in milk is strictly banned. Dipping cookies in blood is Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:00 - Staring contests - Dumbasses who want to challenge Chief Librarian Mephiston to a menacing staring contest do so now. Usually it&#039;s just the neophytes who don&#039;t know any better.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:15 - Round up - Staring contests end, and those who went mad while staring into Mephiston&#039;s eyes must be tracked down in the fortress-monastery and culled.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:30 - Evening prayer. Special attention is given to how fabulous Sanguinius was and why they can&#039;t wait to tear the heretical Chaos idiots multiple new assholes (hint, it involves blood). &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:00 - Evening meal - A feast is prepared by the chapter serfs, usually of animals who were killed during the deep strike training. The chapter serf is still forbidden to eat them. Using the Red Grail in drinking contests is explicitly prohibited by order of the Sanguinary Priests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:30- All loose [[Death Company]] personnel are rounded up, heavily sedated, and locked into their stasis cell for the night.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
20:00 - Free time - The Blood Angels are allowed a few hours of free time to do as they please. Some reflect on their duty to the Emperor and the deeds of Sanguinius. Others play vidya games. [[Pretty Marines|Some just pose moodily and bare-chested in front of a mirror]]. Still others will engage in artistic activities. A GOOD vampire movie is often shown for the Blood Angels&#039; entertainment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
00:00 - Rest - The Blood Angels retire to their coffins for the evening.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinius]] - Primarch. Snaps [[Bloodthirster]] spines over his knee and decapitates [[Keeper of Secrets|Keepers of Secrets]] for the [[lulz]]. Sacrificed himself to aid in the ultimate defeat of [[Horus]]. May he rest in peace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meros]] - Apothecary during the Horus Heresy. Sacrificed himself so that Sanguinius could righteously fuck up a Keeper of Secrets.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azkaellon]] - Captain of the Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinius&#039; overprotective mother in short.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raldoron]] - First Captain of the Legion, later first Chapter Master of the chapter. Regarded highly alongside Sigismund, Kharne, Sevatar, etc. and noted to be a quality, good &#039;ol fashioned general.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nassir Amit]] - Yup, he eventually became the first Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]], but he was one of the OG Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dominion Zephon - Crippled Blood Angel who represented the Legion on Terra before the Heresy. [[Awesome|Took on Drach&#039;nyen in the Webway]] with a chainsword despite only recently having the feeling restored in his limbs, living out the &amp;quot;drive me closer&amp;quot; meme. All around elegan/tg/entleman able to play the harp well enough to make mutants weep and able to fight just as well. Counteracts the insipid autism of Diocletion Coros during &#039;Master of Mankind&#039; by being just a swell dude. Also, makes a Knight Baroness&#039; panties reenact Genesis 7:17.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Current Chapter Master. Resident badass sexy-grandpa. Seriously, dude&#039;s hella old and prefers not to mention anything about having a Necron&#039;s cell phone number.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mephiston]] - Chief Librarian and resident rape train. Scariest motherfucker this side of the [[Eye of Terror]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Corbulo]] - High [[Sanguinary Priest]]. Sees far, just not far enough, into the future.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astorath]] - Keeper of Sanctity and the dude who kills Death Company nutjobs when they nutjob way too hard.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lemartes]] - Chaplain and the Guardian of the Lost, and the only Blood Angel to hold the Black Rage in check. Ranks #2 behind the Eversor Assassin as the most 40K and [[grimdark]] thing in 40K.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karlaen|Arenos Karlaen]] - 1st Company captain and total bro. Has a model thanks to 7E&#039;s Deathstorm Box.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donatos Aphael]]- 2nd company captain. Very supportive of blood drinking, with good results to back his actions. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erasmus Tycho]] - 3rd company captain. Proof that [[Your dudes]] has a reason to exist. Sadly could not quell the Black Rage, but still worth a fight no doubt. No longer among the living. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moriar the Chosen]] - Matt Ward&#039;s excuse for making generic Death Company Dreadnoughts a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rafen]] - Longest living Blood Angel mook in any of the Blood Angels book series. Single handedly bested Arkio (possessed monster) and further aided Mephiston in staving off the Black Rage for a second time. Also wielded the Spear of Tolesto, though only briefly. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinor]] - Started off being a random dude who was chosen to be Sanguinius&#039; herald during [[Imperium Secundus]], then later stood in his Primarch&#039;s place on Davin and got drawn into the warp while transforming into an angelic being. Nowadays he may be Sanguinius reborn... or Azkaellon... or a warp entity created by the longings of the Blood Angels... DAMMIT! IT&#039;S COMPLICATED. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Acrion]] - Random captain that thought he could stand up to [[Abaddon]] during the 7th Black Crusade. He couldn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thalastian Jorus]] - Fuckawesome Reclusiarch that succeeded in standing up to Abaddon--killed &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; his [[Bringers of Despair|Honour Guard]], thoroughly wrecked the [[Black Legion]] by utilizing [[Wat|guerrilla tactics with the Death Company of all things]] AND became one of like 3 people in the Imperium to go toe to toe with the Despoiler and come out on top, gravely wounding Abby before the Chaplain was killed by the Black Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chapter Master Slamguinius|Brother Slamguinius, the Slambane, 9th lord of slamfuckery]] - The newest hope to rise out of the Blood Angel&#039;s 8th edition codex, and by far the punchiest thing to ever come out of one of our codices from a basic Captain template in recent years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Blood Angels (9E)|Blood Angels Tactics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bloodquest]] - A comic &amp;amp; audio drama centered around the redemption quest of a fallen Captain and his crew.&lt;br /&gt;
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File:The Red Angel.jpg|Manly Vampires, IN SPESS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Admit It.jpg|You know it to be true.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BloodAngels3rd.jpg|Older Blood Angels art. Is that Christopher Lee in the lower left corner? Well, using Dracula as a model makes sense...&lt;br /&gt;
File:CrusadeEraBloodAngels.jpg|2nd Ed. box art. Note absence of nipples on armour.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Angels workout.png|Imperial /fit/izen encounters a Son of Sanguinius 020.M03&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Blood Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[Image:Blood_Angels_Pauldron.jpeg|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Emperor and Sanguinius! Death! DEATH!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = IX&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Eaters of the Dead, Revenant Legion, the Charnel Feast&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Angels Encarmine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Excelsis]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Glorious]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Angels of Light&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Penitent]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Angels Vermillion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Atlantian Spears]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Dragons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Legion]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Scythes]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Swords]] (claimed otherwise in Codex: Blood Angels 5th Edition by [[Matt Ward]], so take that as you will)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Blood Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Brothers of Jarad]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Burning Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Carmine Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Charnel Guard]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Cruor Blades]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Exsanguinators]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Eaters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Flesh Tearers]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Golden Sons]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of Blood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights of the Chalice]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Knights Sanguine]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Lamenters]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Red Wings]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Brotherhood]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sable Knights]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Sanguine Host]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = [[Dante]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Sanguinius]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Baal]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Rapid assaults, close combat, being space vampires, having the Space Marine equivelent of the [[Red Rage]], being &#039;&#039;fabulous&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = ~1000 Marines&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Red with black detailing&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Man is neither angel nor beast, and the misfortune is that he who would act the angel acts the beast.|Blaise Pascal}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|From his Blood are we born! From his essence are we made! From his passion comes our art! From his nobility comes beauty. From his might stems justice. From his thirst is born righteous rage!|The Final Charge of the [[Lord of the Rings|Rohirrim]]--err, Blood angels.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood; Fear the old blood.|Provost Willem, &#039;&#039;Bloodborne&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; were the 9th [[Space Marine]] Legion created by the [[Emperor]]. They are so named because of their tendency to &lt;br /&gt;
use blood as a central symbol of their particular warrior-monk rituals, and because of their susceptibility to the [[Red Thirst]], a wild bloodlust that arises in them during battle. If he fails to control his Red Thirst, a Blood Angel may succumb to the [[Black Rage]] (the [[Grimdark|Grimdarkest]] of Daddy Issues), after which he becomes a completely insane killing machine with no regard for his own safety who will try to destroy the Emperor&#039;s foes even if all he has left is a bloody stump of one leg. This has led to the Blood Angels being viewed as basically vampires [[Meme|IN SPEHSS]], and unfortunately as the [[Twilight|Team Edward]] to the [[Space Wolves]] [[Twilight|Team Jacob]]. If you are not already completely indignant, see the second image at the bottom of the page for additional [[rage]]. We&#039;ll wait. …...Yeah, how much does that blow? Here&#039;s the good news, though: that&#039;s pretty much the only thing that sucks (PUN) about the Blood Angels. Everything else is [[awesome]] apart maybe from [[Skub|&#039;nipple&#039; armour]], but the rest is all cool, angelic and bloody and all. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cause of the Black Rage basically amounts to the most epic case of an absent-daddy complex ever. Just with a high chance of being skullfuckingly angry/awesome at the same time. You see, during the [[Horus Heresy]], the Blood Angels&#039; [[Primarch]], [[Sanguinius]], was slain by [[Horus]] himself just before the Emperor destroyed Horus. This subsequently [[RAGE|fucked up]] the mental stability of all future generations of Blood Angels, and when one of them is overtaken by the Black Rage, he literally believes he is Sanguinius and relives in vivid detail the final battle with Horus and his traitor legions at the Battle of [[Terra]]. So in short, you know when someone says that they will kick you so hard in the balls your grandchildren will feel it, Horus actually did that.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
The IX Legion were not mentioned for many of the early actions of the Great Crusade. Their purpose was separate and unsightly. Their designed function was to utterly obliterate the enemy like an inferno, only growing in strength as the wars raged on and leaving nothing in their wake. So they were commonly deployed to radiation poisoned warzones, fighting against mutants and other undesirables that the Terrans would rather forget or ignore.&lt;br /&gt;
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To this end, the IX Legion had a very peculiar gene-seed quirk: where other legions had to be fairly selective with the genetic purity of their recruits, the Ninth could recruit from practically anyone, not only the broken and downtrodden, but also deformed mutants that might not even be considered human anymore. The IX gene-seed allowed miraculous transformations that created uniformly elegant and fair Astartes from any source, meaning the legion could recruit from practically any world, no matter how poisoned.  [[Derp|Gotta wonder why this wasn’t standard...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the early days, their reputation for such transformations meant they were followed around by throngs of pilgrims, all baying and petitioning for the chance to become Astartes, eventually forming a &amp;quot;cult&amp;quot; called the &#039;&#039;&#039;Red Brothers&#039;&#039;&#039; who wove a tradition of mysticism around the Angels of the Ninth, collecting cast-off munitions and damaged armour plate; They even started attempting to sponsor good candidates for Astartes and weeding out the weaker ones. Sufficed to say, such a cult would not last when the [[Emperor]] proclaimed his [[Imperial Truth]], and somewhat ironically, the Ninth would be the ones to destroy them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to their apparent resilience and proclivity for eating the bodies of the dead, the Ninth Legion would become known as The Revenants, this was because both the legion itself and its members seemed to come back from the dead as well as their Omophagea-induced habits. The legion was repeatedly deployed into bloody and toxic warzones that should have wiped them out, only to emerge stronger at the end; and the legion&#039;s officers had what appeared to be a remarkably long lifespan. This latter detail was in fact an illusion covering up a far more grisly truth: when an officer of the Revenants died, his successor would eat the body and take on his name.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coming of the Primarch===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood angel aspirants.jpg|300px|thumb|left|Welcome motherfuckers, have some blood. You&#039;ll be as pretty as us in no time.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; Primarch was [[Sanguinius]], who was best known for being a [[Pretty_Marines|pretty]] [[Mutant]], a charismatic guy with a bad temper that made him look like Satan, and he was apparently a total bro. Basically, to the Space Marine legions and the rest of the Primarchs, he was [[This Guy]]. They all loved him. Even Horus, after he fell to [[Chaos]], lamented that Sanguinius in particular was no longer by his side. Sanguinius was so charismatic and batshit loyal that when he met the Emperor for the first time, he dropped to his knees and simply begged that the lives of those who worshiped him be spared, and the Emperor [[awesome|agreed and withheld the Imperial Truth from Baal.]] He also had a pair of huge, angel-like wings; no one is sure if this had something to do with the radiation on Baal or if he just came out of his birthing pod like that, but the citizens of Baal nearly killed him for it when he was found at the site now known as Angel&#039;s Fall. ([[Emperor|Emprah]] have mercy on anyone who uses the [[Mutant|m-word]] around the Blood Angels, though.) Many of the Blood Angels imitate the power and majesty of their beloved Primarch&#039;s wings by focusing on jump pack assaults, so the Blood Angels and their successor chapters doctrinally see a lot more [[Assault Squad]]s than the typical Space Marine army. Their current Chapter Master is [[Dante]], the oldest non-Dreadnought-interred loyalist Space Marine in history. &lt;br /&gt;
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They had a brotherly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] (if only the [[Imperial Fists]]/[[Iron Warriors]] and [[Ultramarines]]/[[Word Bearers]] could have managed that…) which got pretty messy when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. They were at the forefront during the [[Siege of Terra]] where Sanguinius died in the final hours and the Black Rage set in. In the [[Second Founding]], the Chapter was divided like the other legions. First Captain [[Raldoron]] became the first Chapter Master of the Blood Angels Chapter, starting the illustrious legacy currently held by Dante, who took office as the last surviving line officer after Chapter Master Remael and most of the Chapter command were killed in action.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Warhammer 40K blood angels wallpaper (1).jpg|300px|thumbnail|right|A Marine putting the &#039;blood&#039; in &#039;Blood Angel&#039;. Diligently reminding everyone they used to be called the &amp;quot;Charnel Feast&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In times of dire need, they are aided by the [[Sanguinor]], a guy who seems to be a Blood Angel in a more literal sense. Maybe he&#039;s some psychic manifestation of the Chapter. Maybe he&#039;s a ghost of Sanguinius. Nobody knows. The important thing is that he enjoys piledriving [[Bloodthirsters]] from space, killing [[Eldar]] [[Khaine|Avatars]], and killing a bunch of Night Lords, saving Dante&#039;s life in the process as it was otherwise a textbook suicide mission, a redemptive one, to be specific.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and [[Hive Fleet Leviathan]] have been coming to devour their homeworld [[Baal]] for a few editions while it is also being attacked by a [[Khorne|Khornate]] army led by their ancient enemy, the [[Bloodthirster]] [[Ka&#039;bandha]]. 8th edition &amp;quot;progressed&amp;quot; the story with the attack and [[Devastation of Baal|devastation of the Baal]] system where the Blood Angels and almost all their successor chapters were ready to receive them. Both moons were stripped of all life (yummy yummy radioactive wastes) and the main planet was wrecked with trillions of bugs, with the last survivors making one last charge--facing their fate like men in the ruins of the planet.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is when the [[Great Rift]] opened up and cut Baal from the real space, yet the [[Tyranids]] on the ground forgot about the synapse shenanigans and continued to enjoy their first winning campaign since like forever. By the time the Warp was stable, all the bug-ships had vanished and Ka&#039;Bandha had wiped out everything on one of Baal&#039;s moons--but in an odd show of his tsundere side for the Blood Angels, primarily summoned his lesser ilk to fight off the Tyranids, until the chapter master of the [[Knights of Blood]] chapter, Sentor Jool, engaged the Bloodthirster in single combat, which sounds stupid, but actually comes off completely fuckawesome and manly...while also being a pretty stupid thing to do. &lt;br /&gt;
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Luckily for them the cicatrix maledictum had royally fucked up the hive fleet, completely disappearing some portions and annihilating the rest. The Blood Angels last stand culminated in Dante further fucking over the hive mind in a good bout of fisticuffs with the [[Swarmlord]]. The [[Legion of the Damned]] and the [[Sanguinor]] provided timely reinforcement, appearing to lead his Blood Angels brethren in a heroic last stand against Hive Fleet Leviathan, where the Chapter Master [[anal circumference|meltagunned The Swarmlord&#039;s face off]] [[Awesome|after being impaled, allowing the rest of his squad to live]]. The Sanguinor took off after that, but not after he managed to [[Noblebright|renew the Astartes&#039; faith in humanity.]] [[Derp|True salvation]] arrived when the warp storms abated and the arrival of the [[Indomitus Crusade]]. Though [[Roboute Guilliman]] confided later that all they really had to do was finish off the stragglers that had survived the fleet and the warp storms--which was a nice clean way to provide some dignity to the severely depleted Sons of Sanguinius for the fanboys who had already been rolling their eyes over their [[Spiritual Liege]] coming to save them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Baal Primus is a blasted shithole now (well...more of one, anyway) and is now uninhabited. In an odd show of [[noblebright]], Guilliman ordered the mechanicus to terraform Baal Secundus back into its paradisal state before the long night, [[Wat|apparently something they&#039;ve long been able to do, they just kept it shitty to make for better (read:Tougher) recruits.]] Afterwards Big Bobby-G in a decidedly bro-tier move made Commander Dante the Warden of Imperium Nihilus--effectively ceding command of wholly HALF of the Imperium (the shitty half maybe...) and restored their ability to create new marines, provided fresh [[gene-seed]] and were granted the ability to produce new [[Primaris Space Marines]] along with all of the existing Primaris marines with Sanguinius&#039; bloodline. They capped off the noblebright with allowing all the mortal boys who fought in defense of Baal to become Blood Angels, no questions asked, as they had already proven their worth defending their world. So a bit of a rollercoaster of emotions that day, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Combat Doctrine==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Helmet Colours.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Helmets for the Blood Angels play a very important part in their chapter—easy color coding to identify squad type &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; an incentive to keep your sexy face covered to [[Nemeroth|prevent easily avoidable death by helmetlessness]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels took the establishment of the [[Codex Astartes]] as official Space Marine doctrine with [[Imperial Fists|notably less]] [[Space Wolves|bitching than]] [[Salamanders|other chapters]] due to the death of their Primarch and the onset of the Black Rage. They follow the strictures of the Codex as far as they see wisdom in it: the chapter is comprised of a thousand Blood Angels and divided into ten companies, each of which is headed by a captain. The First Company is comprised of veterans, and the Tenth Company is comprised of Scouts and Neophytes who have not yet become full Marines. Obviously though, none of the blood rituals and other [[Pretend|weird shit]] is Codex-approved.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like their brethren in the [[Raven Guard]] though, the Blood Angels have a natural predilection for using jump packs and their own free will ([[Ultramarines|as opposed to blindly]] [[Red Scorpions|following the Codex]]). Due to their chapter&#039;s [[Black Rage|curse]], they have had to tweak things a bit; once they complete their training as Scouts, Blood Angels immediately go into [[Assault Squad|Assault Squads]] rather than [[Devastator Squad|Devastator Squads]], as the Codex Astartes would have it, though not only because of these little scamps&#039; brashness. The constant close combat also allows Blood Angel officers to identify the noobs who can control their Red Thirst as well as those who cannot, and thereafter keep tabs on the latter group. Devastator Squads in the Blood Angels Chapter are reserved for Marines who have better control of the Red Thirst than most, because heavy fire support isn&#039;t very useful when the people providing it have psychopathic ADD. &lt;br /&gt;
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The few Blood Angels that decide they don&#039;t like jumping like maniacs into swarms of enemies, and instead prefer biking like maniacs into swarms of enemies, are regarded as some of the best biker Marines in the Imperium, following closely behind the [[White Scars]] and the Dark Angels&#039; [[Ravenwing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR Blood Angels hit shit until it dies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tools of the Trade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Tumblr niexunCRca1tvfheeo1 1280.jpg|300px|left|thumb|[[Sanguinius]] proclaimed, &amp;quot;War is an art form,&amp;quot; and the Blood Angels said, &amp;quot;Well, that sounds [[Pretty Marines|absolutely fabulous]]. Get me some gold.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are known throughout the Imperium to be master artisans. Their long lifespans allow them time to perfect whatever trade they set their mind to, whether they are crafting the infamous, hand-sculpted artificer &#039;nipple&#039; armour, [[What|bolters worth more than an Imperial hive city]], or even if they&#039;re simply painting vehicles and power armour. The philosophy behind this practice is that you cannot hope to know the value of what you&#039;re fighting for if you cannot understand its beauty.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blood Angels are also known for their prevalent use of [[flamer|flamers]] and [[melta]] weapons. While they don&#039;t employ them as plentifully as the [[Salamanders]] do, they are nearly as masterfully constructed. The Sons of Sanguinius have taken a liking to the hand flamer, which gives them the assault capability of a flamer, but leaves their sword arm free to use in close combat. Heavy flamers can also be found in many of their Tactical Squads as an assault deterrent as well as on the side sponsons of Baal Predators to complement the Flamestorm Cannon, which ruins any infantry unit&#039;s day. &lt;br /&gt;
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They also reeeeeeally like the Inferno pistol. Many of them have one, including the [[Dante|Chapter Master]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The aforementioned Baal Predator is a unique tank manufactured by the Blood Angels. It is an anti-infantry assault tank equipped with [[Dakka|twin-linked assault cannons and heavy flamers]] that was acquired in a pre-heresy campaign that nearly broke all their relationships with the Mechanicus. Even to this day, things are still a bit touchy. Luckily, the Techmarines of the chapter quickly reverse engineered the overcharged &amp;quot;Lucifer-class&amp;quot; engines onto nearly all their vehicles. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels&#039; de facto relic weapons are called Glaive Encarmine—&#039;glaive&#039; apparently meaning &#039;sword&#039; in this case rather than the halberd-type weapon it&#039;s associated with (&amp;quot;glaives&amp;quot; comes from the Latin &amp;quot;gladius&amp;quot;, the common short sword of Roman era, so there you go). They&#039;re made out of a mono-filament metal called &#039;angel-steel&#039; and are purportedly so perfectly crafted that they never bend or warp. The secrets to their manufacture are jealously guarded by their Artificers (hopefully well-protected against &amp;quot;forgetting&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;losing&amp;quot;). Instead of making armor out of it, of course.  This is represented by their master-crafted universal special rule. They come in two flavors, a Carmine Sword or a Carmine Axe.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Recruitment==&lt;br /&gt;
While [[Space Marine]] selection is naturally never soft, the Blood Angels&#039; methods are especially [[Grimdark]] by first taking their aspirants from [[Baal]] and its moons and requiring them journey through canyons and a fucking large desert (which are crawling with monsters and radioactive...though probably like the rest of [[Baal]]) to reach Angel&#039;s Fall, where [[Sanguinius]] was first found. After that, the surviving Aspirants kill each other in gladiatorial contests until fifty victors are chosen. &#039;&#039;Then&#039;&#039; they have to observe a vigil for 72 hours (any who fall asleep are taken away and never seen again), and finally after succeeding in that, the aspirants drink from a Blood Chalice provided by a Sanguinary Priest and fall into a coma (hopefully) for a year. They are then put into a life-support coffin for that year during which the gene-seed of [[Sanguinius]] implanted into them from the Blood Chalice changes them into Blood Angels. Many aspirants at this stage prove incompatible with the gene-seed and die during their confinement, [[Grimdark|others wake up too early from their coma and go insane from this solitary and claustrophobic imprisonment]], and the rest are the newest additions to the Blood Angels chapter when they wake up after a year.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously you probably have better odds living through a war than going through this shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gene Seed==&lt;br /&gt;
The Blood Angels&#039; themes and motifs are drawn from vampire and Faustian mythology as well as Catholic traditions &amp;amp; Italian renaissance style. They [[Beakie|commonly fly (with jump packs)]], [[Twilight|are eternally youthful]], [[Vampire|drink blood, and sleep in coffins]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels are noted for naturally living longer on average than the Marines of any other chapter. Although, since there is no baseline standard for how long Astartes are supposed to live in the first place, and no Space Marine has ever been shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age (outside of those that have been affected by the Hrud), this claim kinda rings a little hollow (although any marine worth his salt will die of being slowed down by age before it&#039;s enough to finish him off). Even [[Dante]]&#039;s age of over 1000 years isn&#039;t unique to his lineage, as there have been several other notable Astartes from other legion bloodlines that have managed a similar lifespan. By and large, Space Marines only die when they are killed, so, the only real ways Blood Angels can live considerably longer than &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; space marines is if they either [[Reasonable Marines|don&#039;t put themselves at risk as much as normal marines]], or [[Rip and tear|they&#039;re so ded &#039;ard that they&#039;re just harder to kill than normal marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus Heresy: Malevolence explains the longevity in a somewhat ironic fashion, given what we already know of Astartes physiology. The Ninth Legion were renowned  for their long lifespans even during the early Great Crusade. What was less known was that the Legion had a habit of eating their dead captains after they fell in battle, with the Omophagea implant allowing the memories and battle experience to be retained for a future generation. Some recipients of these memories would take up the identity of the dead officer and give the outward appearance that they had never died at all. It was said that the Legion&#039;s master prior to Sanguinius&#039; recovery had gone through several such reincarnations before his final death when the body was destroyed beyond recognition. Sufficed to say that after Sanguinius arrived, things changed and thereafter took being called the &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Eaters of the Dead&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as cause for grievous offense.  Which is dumb because using the Omophagea like this is brilliant and means each Astartes would be far more competent than he normally would be.  Many Marines would gain veteran levels of experience and skill without having to spend decades or centuries gaining it.  What did Sanguinius think the Omophagea was for?  Not eating people?  Pfft.&lt;br /&gt;
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When a Blood Angel does die, a [[Sanguinary Priest]] (what they call their [[Apothecaries]]) extracts his gene-seed using a device called an exsanguinator. When it comes time to implant it in an Initiate, the Initiate must receive it by drinking from a Blood Chalice (&#039;insanguination&#039;), which also contains the essence of Sanguinius. The story of [[Mephiston]], the Blood Angels&#039; chief librarian, closely parallels the legend of Faust, a scholar who sells his soul to the devil in return for great knowledge and power (hell, he&#039;s named after the manifestation of the devil in the story, Mephistopheles or Mephisto). The names of their special characters and vehicles have an Italian flavor—Dante, the Furioso Dreadnought, Brother Corbulo. Corbulo, known as the chapter&#039;s High Sanguinary Priest, carries the Red Grail, which contains the blood of Sanguinius himself. Also, do we have to point out that the word &#039;sanguis&#039; literally means &#039;blood&#039; in Latin? Well, there you go. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels and their successor chapters have a genetic defect in their gene-seed known euphemistically as &amp;quot;The Flaw&amp;quot;. It seems to have much more representation in the [[fluff]] than in the [[crunch]], but that&#039;s standard fare for a life-threatening, damnation-courting mutation that can pop up at any time. One chapter, Angels Penitent, managed to stave the defects off until they were fucked over by Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Red Thirst===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BA&#039;s.jpg|thumb|left|500px|[[Ultramarines|You&#039;ll never see a Blood Angel go]] &amp;quot;Oh nooooes, a fleet of nice squishy flesh-bugs coming to devour our system, we&#039;re doooomed...&amp;quot;. Maybe because it&#039;s an excellent way to let loose for a bit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Red Thirst is what makes the Blood Angels space vampires,&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; or Team Edward &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|PURGE THE UNCOMFORTABLE THEMATIC PARALLELS OF POPULAR CULTURE!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Red Thirst]] has been a part of being a Blood Angel since the [[Great Crusade]]. Sanguinius went to great lengths to hide it from the Emperor for fear of being [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|expunged from the Imperium]], although odds are that the Emperor already knew. He even introduced [[Chaplain]]s to the Blood Angels legions before the Edict of Nikaea, not just to monitor psykers, but to look out for brothers who might be giving in to their bloodlust.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the lore the general effect is that the Red Thirst makes a Blood Angel an [[Angry Marine]] with a literal thirst for actual goddamn blood. Thus most Blood Angel Chaplains require certification for anger management therapy before they get the job. Their duty is to ensure that the assorted Marines are not showing signs of bloodlust, and to throw them into a battle if they are [[Grimdark|so they can stave off total madness a bit longer]]. A Blood Angel can suppress his Red Thirst simply by fighting in battle. However, sometimes, a Blood Angel will see the memories of Sanguinius’ death upon the Vengeful Spirit. This will inevitably trigger the second, and more devastating, part of the Flaw- the Black Rage. After this, their lives will consist of utterly suicidal front-line charges to [[rip and tear]] the enemy as much as possible, before they eventually receive an honorable death in combat against the Emperor&#039;s foes. Those unlucky enough to survive to the end of the battle will either be given [[Blam|the Emperor&#039;s Peace]] by [[Astorath]], or [[Grimdark|imprisoned within the Tower of the Lost as a hopeless, dribbling maniac until they are required on the field of battle once more.]] This happened in Devastation of Baal, where the victims of the curse were seen as having mutated into hulking beasts who moved on all fours like gorillas. They were released to hold off the hordes of Daemons and Tyranids.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Blood-angel-dantewontdie.jpg|thumb|right|300px|I told you about the Red Thirst bro!]]Some chapters are more susceptible than others. The imaginatively named &amp;quot;[[Blood Drinkers]]&amp;quot; are notorious amongst their allies for allegedly leaving exsanguinated corpses wherever they show up. On the upside, Blood Drinkers are one of the few chapters who have [[Deathwatch (RPG)|tangible rules]] regarding how they handle the Red Thirst: if they have recently sated themselves, they gain a boost to WS, and suffer penalties to morale checks if they refrain from feeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this has historically been changed in every single incarnation of the rules as GW continually changed their minds over how the Thirst should be represented; in 7th edition, they just give the flat bonus of Furious Charge to everything (including dreadnoughts); but if you get a bunch of Blood Angels together in the correct FOC or formation, then they also get +1 to Initiative when charging (&#039;&#039;á la&#039;&#039; old-school Furious Charge), which is a very strong advantage. In 5th edition, Red Thirst had the odd consequence of occasionally making a unit Fearless and Furious Chargers if they give into the temptation, though independent characters had enough control over themselves that they were mostly immune, with a [[Erasmus Tycho|few]] exceptions. Going further back, into 3rd edition, the Red Thirst made a bit more sense and was something to actually be wary of, as your units had a potential to lose control at the thought of blood and move out of position towards the enemy. This really wasn&#039;t [[fun]], especially if your Devastator Squads didn&#039;t pull that critical round of shooting.&lt;br /&gt;
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New in 8th it comes back with a vengeance. Allowing any infantry who charged, has been charged, or is performing a heroic intervention, to add +1 to the to wound roll. Meaning, when red thirst is in affect, [[awesome|you&#039;ll never be wounding on anything worse than 5+]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Black Rage===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Death company by fonteart-d6ay2k7.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Note the ancient, unfathomable Rage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the [[Black Rage]] is the Red Thirst&#039;s angrier, more troublesome brother. You know, the one who dresses in black all the time, and who shows up at random times to complicate your life and embarrass your family. It&#039;s a terminal state in which the battle brother has not only succumbed to the Red Thirst, but has had a total psychotic breakdown. Or if you&#039;re feeling particularly poetic: it&#039;s the psychic scream of a dying demi-god that got stuck in his progeny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Battle-brothers who succumb to the Black Rage are overcome with visions of Blood Angel battles during the [[Horus Heresy]], and a few even imagine themselves to be [[Pretend|Sanguinius battling Horus on his battle barge]]. This of course has the unfortunate side effect of making them completely lose touch with reality, fighting a battle that they can never ever win since the outcome of the hallucinations has already occurred. On the plus side though, their disconnection with what is going on around them turns them into immensely powerful warriors, since each and every one of them believe in some way that they are Sanguinius.  You’re basically left with Sanguinius with an Astartes body and the Primarch’s incredible skill.  [[Awesome|It’s as terrifying and awesome as it sounds.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Long story short, a Marine afflicted with the Black Rage will become even angrier than an [[Angry Marine]], and with even less self-control(which means they are effectively each Nightbringer crossed with Commissar Fuklaw. If you happen to be in the same star system of one of these, pray to the god emperor they don&#039;t sense you. If you don&#039;t happen to worship the God-Emperor, silently hope your gods are OK with suicide, because the alternative is too nightmarishly gruesome for even Games Workshop to describe in sufficient detail). If this happens in a war zone, they are quietly organized into small squads and their armor is painted black by a chaplain before the worst of the hallucinations take over. If they aren&#039;t killed in battle or get off the leash somehow, [[Astorath]] will come and execute them on the battlefield since no other Blood Angel has the stomach (or outright skill) to kill his own battle brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:True Blood Angels.jpg|150px|thumb|Blood Angel confronts his true form. And you thought the [[Wulfen]] looked weird]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Death Company]] is a group of Blood Angels on the battlefield who are afflicted by the [[Black Rage]]. Every force of Blood Angels and their successor chapters has one, though [[Flesh Tearers|some]] are more susceptible than [[Lamenters|others]], which makes those chapters&#039; responses to the occurrence of Black Rage quite varied. The [[Flesh Tearers]] and the renegade [[Knights of Blood]] chapters both have an uncanny predilection for all-out, balls-to-the-wall assault—hoping to die in battle honorably before the rage takes them. In the Knights of Blood&#039;s case, they fought with the zeal of the [[Black Templars]], the fury of the [[World Eaters]], and the excess of the [[Marines Malevolent]] in such a perfect way that they got kicked out of the [[Imperium of Man|cool kids club]] and branded renegades for their excess collateral damage against allied forces. The Flesh Tearers very nearly joined that shit list, and were only forgiven by the Blood Angels when [[Plot armor|Astorath personally intervened on their behalf, citing that their brutality would be a necessity in the near future]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop, this essentially allows you to bring a squad of [[Khorne Berserkers]] without the [[Khorne]], but with more customization options. You can also take several squads if Astorath has shown up, as he always seems to know where and when his brothers will succumb.&lt;br /&gt;
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As with the Red Thirst, [[Games Workshop|GW]] keep changing the rules with these guys; nowadays you can purchase units of Death Company as Elite choices for your army at a not-insignificant cost, whilst in 6th they were Troops, but were so far down the path of being drooling lunatics that they couldn&#039;t hold objectives, and you could only have one squad unless [[Astorath]] was watching. In ancient times, it used to happen spontaneously for free, and you had to roll for squads at the start of battle, potentially losing members of squads you already paid for to bulk up your Death Company, which made fluff-sense. But at least you chose which model to take off, and sending a veteran sergeant to the Death Company was the only way of giving power weapon/fists (excluding the chaplain) to the squad. Losing a [[Terminator|Termie]] or tooled-up honour guard made you cry though...&lt;br /&gt;
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==In a nutshell==&lt;br /&gt;
A redditor by the name of redsonatnight explained what the Blood angels are about in one paragraph.&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;To paraphrase Pratchett, they&#039;re &#039;where the falling angel meets the rising ape.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels, more than any other Legion, &#039;&#039;&#039;strive&#039;&#039;&#039;. They have the potential to be more bareserk than the Wolves, more savage than the World Eaters and more blood-drenched than the Night Lords, and for a while they were - look up their history as the Revenant Legion before Sanguinius took them in.&lt;br /&gt;
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And now, despite essentially having the Doom Eternal soundtrack playing constantly in their ear, despite losing the father that made them find their better nature, they work harder than almost any other loyal Chapter to maintain a humanity they never really possessed. They paint, they sculpt, they help people, all while something in them screams to open children like Capri Suns and bathe in the overflow.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Blood Angels work really hard to be good people. That&#039;s what makes them noble.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily rituals of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dawn of War.jpg|200px|thumb|left|alt text|Dante pwns some noobs as [[Astorath]] and [[Mephiston]] look on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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04:00 - Reveille - The Blood Angels are roused from their coffins to start the day.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:10 - Grooming - The Blood Angels take the time to comb their hair and brush their teeth. Special attention is given to their fangs. Even more special attention is given to their long, flowing, golden hair.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
04:30 - Morning meal - A light meal is prepared by the chapter serfs for the Blood Angels. Consuming a chapter serf is explicitly prohibited.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
05:00 - Morning prayer.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
06:00 - Morning firing rituals - The Blood Angels assemble for target practice. Due to an ancient clerical error, the Blood Angels are in possession of an excessive amount of a heretical series of books from the pre-Imperial days of Terra called the [[Twilight|Twilight Saga]], which they use for target practice by the thousands.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle practice - The Blood Angels begin practice in the battle cages. Frequently, the Blood Angels will forgo their bolters for melee weapons. The usage of fangs in combat practice is considered heresy. Using fangs to drink blood is extra Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12:00 - Midday meal - The Blood Angels consume a light meal made for them by the chapter serfs. The chapter serfs are still explicitly off the menu.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
13:00 - Deep strike training - The Blood Angels practice their deep strike maneuvers. Pretending to fly like a bat is heresy. Transforming into a bat or black mist to fly is extra Tzeentchian heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:00 - Evening firing rituals. During this time, several Blood Angels also practice the shooting style of a legendary Terran gunslinger known as Nosferatu Alucard, a proto-Blood Angel who was said to have slain thousands of daemons alone using only two blessed stub pistols.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
16:55 - Milk and Cookies Break. Drinking blood instead of milk or dipping cookies in milk is strictly banned. Dipping cookies in blood is Khornate heresy.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:00 - Staring contests - Dumbasses who want to challenge Chief Librarian Mephiston to a menacing staring contest do so now. Usually it&#039;s just the neophytes who don&#039;t know any better.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:15 - Round up - Staring contests end, and those who went mad while staring into Mephiston&#039;s eyes must be tracked down in the fortress-monastery and culled.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:30 - Evening prayer. Special attention is given to how fabulous Sanguinius was and why they can&#039;t wait to tear the heretical Chaos idiots multiple new assholes (hint, it involves blood). &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:00 - Evening meal - A feast is prepared by the chapter serfs, usually of animals who were killed during the deep strike training. The chapter serf is still forbidden to eat them. Using the Red Grail in drinking contests is explicitly prohibited by order of the Sanguinary Priests.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:30- All loose [[Death Company]] personnel are rounded up, heavily sedated, and locked into their stasis cell for the night.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
20:00 - Free time - The Blood Angels are allowed a few hours of free time to do as they please. Some reflect on their duty to the Emperor and the deeds of Sanguinius. Others play vidya games. [[Pretty Marines|Some just pose moodily and bare-chested in front of a mirror]]. Still others will engage in artistic activities. A GOOD vampire movie is often shown for the Blood Angels&#039; entertainment.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
00:00 - Rest - The Blood Angels retire to their coffins for the evening.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members of the Blood Angels==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinius]] - Primarch. Snaps [[Bloodthirster]] spines over his knee and decapitates [[Keeper of Secrets|Keepers of Secrets]] for the [[lulz]]. Sacrificed himself to aid in the ultimate defeat of [[Horus]]. May he rest in peace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meros]] - Apothecary during the Horus Heresy. Sacrificed himself so that Sanguinius could righteously fuck up a Keeper of Secrets.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azkaellon]] - Captain of the Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinius&#039; overprotective mother in short.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raldoron]] - First Captain of the Legion, later first Chapter Master of the chapter. Regarded highly alongside Sigismund, Kharne, Sevatar, etc. and noted to be a quality, good &#039;ol fashioned general.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nassir Amit]] - Yup, he eventually became the first Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]], but he was one of the OG Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dominion Zephon - Crippled Blood Angel who represented the Legion on Terra before the Heresy. [[Awesome|Took on Drach&#039;nyen in the Webway]] with a chainsword despite only recently having the feeling restored in his limbs, living out the &amp;quot;drive me closer&amp;quot; meme. All around elegan/tg/entleman able to play the harp well enough to make mutants weep and able to fight just as well. Counteracts the insipid autism of Diocletion Coros during &#039;Master of Mankind&#039; by being just a swell dude. Also, makes a Knight Baroness&#039; panties reenact Genesis 7:17.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Current Chapter Master. Resident badass sexy-grandpa. Seriously, dude&#039;s hella old and prefers not to mention anything about having a Necron&#039;s cell phone number.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mephiston]] - Chief Librarian and resident rape train. Scariest motherfucker this side of the [[Eye of Terror]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Corbulo]] - High [[Sanguinary Priest]]. Sees far, just not far enough, into the future.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astorath]] - Keeper of Sanctity and the dude who kills Death Company nutjobs when they nutjob way too hard.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lemartes]] - Chaplain and the Guardian of the Lost, and the only Blood Angel to hold the Black Rage in check. Ranks #2 behind the Eversor Assassin as the most 40K and [[grimdark]] thing in 40K.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karlaen|Arenos Karlaen]] - 1st Company captain and total bro. Has a model thanks to 7E&#039;s Deathstorm Box.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donatos Aphael]]- 2nd company captain. Very supportive of blood drinking, with good results to back his actions. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erasmus Tycho]] - 3rd company captain. Proof that [[Your dudes]] has a reason to exist. Sadly could not quell the Black Rage, but still worth a fight no doubt. No longer among the living. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moriar the Chosen]] - Matt Ward&#039;s excuse for making generic Death Company Dreadnoughts a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rafen]] - Longest living Blood Angel mook in any of the Blood Angels book series. Single handedly bested Arkio (possessed monster) and further aided Mephiston in staving off the Black Rage for a second time. Also wielded the Spear of Tolesto, though only briefly. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinor]] - Started off being a random dude who was chosen to be Sanguinius&#039; herald during [[Imperium Secundus]], then later stood in his Primarch&#039;s place on Davin and got drawn into the warp while transforming into an angelic being. Nowadays he may be Sanguinius reborn... or Azkaellon... or a warp entity created by the longings of the Blood Angels... DAMMIT! IT&#039;S COMPLICATED. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Acrion]] - Random captain that thought he could stand up to [[Abaddon]] during the 7th Black Crusade. He couldn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thalastian Jorus]] - Fuckawesome Reclusiarch that succeeded in standing up to Abaddon--killed &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; his [[Bringers of Despair|Honour Guard]], thoroughly wrecked the [[Black Legion]] by utilizing [[Wat|guerrilla tactics with the Death Company of all things]] AND became one of like 3 people in the Imperium to go toe to toe with the Despoiler and come out on top, gravely wounding Abby before the Chaplain was killed by the Black Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chapter Master Slamguinius|Brother Slamguinius, the Slambane, 9th lord of slamfuckery]] - The newest hope to rise out of the Blood Angel&#039;s 8th edition codex, and by far the punchiest thing to ever come out of one of our codices from a basic Captain template in recent years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Blood Angels (9E)|Blood Angels Tactics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bloodquest]] - A comic &amp;amp; audio drama centered around the redemption quest of a fallen Captain and his crew.&lt;br /&gt;
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File:The Red Angel.jpg|Manly Vampires, IN SPESS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Admit It.jpg|You know it to be true.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BloodAngels3rd.jpg|Older Blood Angels art. Is that Christopher Lee in the lower left corner? Well, using Dracula as a model makes sense...&lt;br /&gt;
File:CrusadeEraBloodAngels.jpg|2nd Ed. box art. Note absence of nipples on armour.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Angels workout.png|Imperial /fit/izen encounters a Son of Sanguinius 020.M03&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Fulgrimsketch.png|400px|right|thumb|Fulgrim&#039;s sketch, looking less fabulous than usual. [[RAGE|Bringing this shit up is a sure fired way of getting your]] [[Anal circumference|ass perforated with one of his many swords.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I finally figured out the only reason to be alive is to enjoy it.|Rita Mae Brown}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|He that loves pleasure must to pleasure fall|Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|There was a point where this needed to stop and we&#039;ve clearly passed it, but let&#039;s keep going and see what happens.|anonymous}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light!|The Primarch himself, being badly mistaken}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Fulgrim&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The Palatine Phoenix&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; AKA &#039;&#039;&#039;Prissy Little Bitch&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Drama Queen&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[TTS|Obnoxious Brown Noser]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Anime|Every Gay Anime Character Stereotype]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;snek man&#039;&#039;&#039;, is the [[Primarch]] of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] [[Chaos Space Marines|traitor legion]], a [[daemon prince]], the Pretty-Boy of the family, perennial handler of extra-fucking-cursed swords and an enormous hedonistic bitch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pre-heresy, Fulgrim was the HAWTEST goddamn asshole in the galaxy. Like, anime protagonist, Gary Stu self-insert HAWT. (Jury&#039;s still out on if he was hotter than Sanguinius). He was so HAWT, that his residual HAWTNESS made all of humanity the HAWTEST race in the galaxy, which is kind of ironic, because &#039;ful&#039; means ugly in Swedish, and &#039;grim&#039; means ugly in Danish. Anyways, point is, Fulgrim was one handsome human. Because of this, he decided that all the ugly [[xenos]] had to [[Khorne|&#039;&#039;&#039;fucking die&#039;&#039;&#039;]] for the crime of not being HAWT humans. Fulgrim was also moody as hell, craving drama, and was generally the worst guy at parties. In fact, he was so edgy, that one time he met up with [[Perturabo]] to tell him he&#039;d heard of some cool [[Eldar]] weapons they could use to kill [[God-Emperor of Mankind|daddy]]. They met on a remote planet to talk about it, and halfway through the first fucking sentence, Fulgrim decided that he couldn&#039;t just explain it out in the open. Rather, he felt he had to tell Perturabo in a magnificent amphitheater built into a meteor crater. Nothing else would do. Sadly, no such amphitheater existed in the galaxy at the time. No probs for Fulgrim, though, as he just made the [[Iron Warriors]] build one. Since there were no craters on this planet AND no meteors available, better break out the explosives! Boom went the dynamite, and the [[Slaanesh|erecting]] of this theater began, while Fulgrim broke out the deck chair and refused to move until his brother&#039;s legion raised said theater. When the theater was done, he finally took the stage and began prancing around, eventually getting to the point and starting his explanation. Unfortunately, he&#039;d spent so much time dicking around that a covert ops [[Raven Guard]] had enough time to set up shop in the rafters and promptly shot Fulgrim through the head, just as he was getting to the good part of the story. If Perturabo was anything other than a humorless emo fuckwad, he&#039;d have felt some glee at seeing his time-wasting, but still conscious brother describing the experience of getting a nine-inch titanium spike stuck in his brain after spending ten minutes, cackling hysterically at the wasted effort.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite all this, we should remember that Fulgrim was a pretty cool guy before he fell to [[Chaos]]. He wasn&#039;t always prideful to a fault, and in fact, many Primarchs were his friends. [[Ferrus Manus]] (oh the irony) and [[Horus]] were both extremely close to Fulgrim, and Fulgrim was the only Primarch [[Konrad Curze]] really trusted. He wasn&#039;t just handsome superficially, and actually had a decent sense of compassion, which the Imperium desperately needed at the time (heck, in his personal Primarch novel, he [[Dawww|fondly remembers his foster parents as doing the best they could]], a sentiment which is tragically at odds with the narcissistic perfectionist he&#039;d become). Also, the past tense is necessary because Fulgrim&#039;s present circumstances seem to change way faster than [[Games Workshop|GW]] has ever moved any plot, ever. He&#039;d been a painting, a snake, a dude, possessed by a [[Daemon#Greater Daemons|greater daemon,]] and all kinds of shit. Fuck knows which if any of these actually were him, or just dickish Slaaneshi daemons taking the piss. No one knows fucking anything anymore. No, really! For a while [[what|his soul was literally stuck in a painting]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray a la Dorian Gray], and a greater daemon possessed his body, making him do [[/d/|some pretty fucked up things]] even by the standards of an [[Space Marine|Astartes]] following [[Slaanesh]], which is saying a &#039;&#039;lot&#039;&#039;. Fulgrim now has full control of his body again, or, at least that&#039;s what he says. (Because Chaos has always been [[Alpha Legion|honest and trustworthy, amirite?]])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Angron]] thinks that Fulgrim is an [[Pretty Marines|over-pomped dandy]] and regularly pays his daemonworld visits, where he pummels Fulgrim&#039;s four-armed snake ass into a bloody pulp and generally makes a mockery of Slaanesh in general... Or so [[Khorne]] fanboys would have you believe, as they constantly rant on about how Angron &amp;quot;[[/tg/ gets shit done|GETS SHIT DONE!]]&amp;quot; and conveniently ignore that, whilst Fulgrim has &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Awesome|KILLED TWO FUCKING PRIMARCHS]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[FAIL|KILLED ONE FUCKING PRIMARCH (Though that is still a massive achievement)]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, [[Ferrus Manus| KILLED A FUCKING PRIMARCH]] AND [[Roboute Guilliman|TURNED ANOTHER INTO A VEGETABLE FOR 10,000 FUCKING YEARS]], not to mention dozens, if not hundreds of clones of Ferrus made by Fabius Bile, Angron&#039;s Primarch body count currently stands at ZERO. Though of course, what Angron does kill at least stays fucking dead. Meanwhile, Fulgrim&#039;s mark, Guilliman, came back to life as a fucking rejected DOTA/[[StarCraft]] character concept. To top it off, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;it&#039;s heavily implied that Guilliman managed to kill Fulgrim before his nap&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Guilliman got owned by Fulgrim before taking some warp dust and going into a coma. Some of the official lore cites this as a claim that Fulgrim was the best duelist amongst the primarchs, but frankly, such a claim is laughable considering [[Jaghatai Khan|who]] [[Sanguinius|his]] [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|brothers]] [[Leman Russ|are]]. (If only they were around to dispute that claim.)&lt;br /&gt;
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He is the second Primarch to receive his own miniature as part of [[Forge World]]&#039;s Character Series. (Surprisingly, it&#039;s not just a set piece. It&#039;s an actual miniature!) &lt;br /&gt;
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==Youth==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:YoungFulgrim.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Even as a teen, Fulgrim resembled a [[Gay|Preening Bishonen Fuckboi]] in a horrid [[Slaanesh|Yaoi fanfic.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Like his brother Primarchs, the infant Fulgrim was abducted by the four [[Gods of Chaos]], who weren&#039;t really into the whole Primarch thing. Also, like his brother Primarchs, he was eventually thrown onto a planet of his own since the four Gods found out that raising infant Primarchs really wasn&#039;t worth the trouble, especially when you can get [[Xenos|some other suckers]] to do it for you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim landed on the planet [[Chemos]], whose people had been dependent on interstellar trade to make everything work. The warpstorms caused by the birth of Slaanesh made such trade impossible, meaning the planet didn&#039;t have the resources to sustain a large population. Art, culture, and recreation were sacrificed for the need to survive. By the time baby Fulgrim landed, the planet&#039;s resources had been so stretched that any orphan found was normally killed so as not to put further strain on the planets dwindling resources. Indeed, the scouts that found him during a storm debated as to whether or not they should kill the infant. Unfortunately for the scout arguing for the death penalty, the infant Primarch was equipped with a little failsafe called adorable cuteness that made most people want to protect him. Those who found him named the infant Fulgrim in honor of one of the ancient gods of Chemos. He was raised by a Chemosian family, and eventually grew up to completely turn Chemos&#039; fortunes around. &lt;br /&gt;
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As with all the Primarchs, Fulgrim grew up at an unnatural rate. He started off differently from other Primarchs, as he wasn&#039;t a warrior, or a freedom fighter, or an object of worship, but a simple laborer in one of Chemos&#039; many factories. Once working, he immediately showed talent in all things, improving machines to make them more efficient, working hours that would kill a normal human, and re-discovering new technologies that had been lost since the Dark Age of Technology. He improved Chemos&#039; infrastructure so much that people actually began to have time for other things again. Most importantly of all, with Fulgrim came a will and a drive for Chemos&#039; people to rise up above their level of merely existing and become something greater than drab factory workers struggling for survival. Perhaps the people of Chemos would never become great, but now they could reach for the stars once more. &lt;br /&gt;
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It was then that the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emperor]] arrived. As soon as Fulgrim saw the Emperor, he took a knee and swore fealty. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;What, no jokes about kneeling? This Website has changed&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. The Emperor then showed Fulgrim his [[First Founding|Legion]], now only 200 strong. It is said that upon seeing his sons displayed before him, entire companies reduced to only one Astartes, yet still proudly bearing their banner, Fulgrim knelt. He then rose and addressed his sons, saying, &amp;quot;You are the Emperor&#039;s chosen, his heralds, his warriors, his children, for this is only the beginning.&amp;quot; Just as the people of Chemos were born again, so would the Third Legion&#039;s Astartes forge themselves into a new future under a new master.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Terra==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Fulgrim by slaine69.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Prince Sky didn&#039;t take Love Island being on TV very well.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Despite the [[Great Crusade]] being well underway, Fulgrim and the Emperor went back to [[Earth|Terra]] to reunite Fulgrim with his [[Space Marines|legion]], why he didn&#039;t bring them along so they could get going is anybody’s guess.&lt;br /&gt;
When they finally reached Terra, Fulgrim was introduced to his legion and discovered that some accident had reduced the [[gene-seed]]s of the III Legion to the point that only 200 remained. Without the Primarch, it had been a slow and laborious process of repairing the damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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But never let it be said that Fulgrim didn&#039;t know how to bounce back from any hit, as he met his legion he made the customary speech to his legion and named them The [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. &lt;br /&gt;
The Emperor&#039;s already ginormous ego was pleased by this speech, so he allowed Fulgrim and his legion to use the Aquila as their symbol. Never let it be said that the Emperor doesn&#039;t reward those who strokes his ego pleasingly.&lt;br /&gt;
As all other Primarchs, his legion quickly gave him a nickname. Since Fulgrim in their eyes had risen their legion from the ashes, Fulgrim got the name The Phoenician. As all other Primarchs, his brothers had a nickname for him too; since Fulgrim liked to dress in one outlandish costume after another (to the point that Lady Gaga would ask him to tone it down some), they named him Peacock (this name would also be used to describe the nature of his legion when not in battle).&lt;br /&gt;
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Just how long it took Fulgrim to get his legion back on track has been forgotten but Fulgrim&#039;s Flagship was completed 160 years before the [[Horus Heresy]], so he probably took some time as no Primarch wants to be seen dead without his flagship. Especially if that Primarch is the most vainglorious man ever to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately for Fulgrim, the Emperor couldn&#039;t sit around and wait for Fulgrim to finish his work in bringing the Emperor&#039;s Children back to full strength, so Fulgrim&#039;s legion were merged with [[Horus]]&#039;s [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves]] until they were ready to go out on their own. As a sidenote, Fulgrim&#039;s flagship took twice as long to build as any other Gloriana-class battleship ever had because he insisted on it being absolutely perfect. We don&#039;t know how long that was but more than likely it was &#039;&#039;quite&#039;&#039; a long while. &lt;br /&gt;
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Among Fulgrim&#039;s closest friends were Horus and [[Ferrus Manus]], whom he nicknamed The Gorgon, and whom he shared a closer friendship with than the rest of his brothers. At the surface they seemed completely different in terms of attitude and difference. Then you realize that Fulgrim basically grew up as super-powered factory worker/coal miner and the bonding suddenly makes a lot more sense. &lt;br /&gt;
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Their first meeting was on Terra beneath Mount Narodnya, the greatest forge of the Urals, where Ferrus Manus was busy toiling with the forge-masters who had once served the Terrawatt Clan during the [[Unification Wars]] soon after his arrival from [[Medusa]]. The Primarch of the Iron Hands had been demonstrating his phenomenal skill and the miraculous powers of his liquid metal hands when Fulgrim, the Primarch of the III Legion, the Emperor&#039;s Children, and his elite Phoenix Guard, had descended upon the sprawling forge complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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Neither Primarchs had met each other before, but when they meet each other they immediately felt a kinship, either that or the fact that each of them were 3.5 meters tall, one a regal-looking albino and the other a muscular strongman with living metal all over his hands and that all artisans in the room immediately prostrated themselves in front of them, might have been a pretty HUGE clue. That said, Ferrus&#039; conversations with [[Lorgar]] tended to run to about half a minute, and that was only if Ferrus couldn&#039;t help it, so maybe there is something in that story.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Ferrus Manus later told of what had happened beneath Mount Narodnya, he said that Fulgrim had come claiming that he had come to forge the most perfect weapon ever created for The Great Crusade. Ferrus Manus, ever prideful, could not let such boast go unchallenged (if he had been less prideful, he might have been a head taller than he is today, not to mention alive). Laughing in Fulgrim&#039;s face, Ferrus Manus answered Fulgrim&#039;s boast by declaring that such pansy hands as Fulgrim&#039;s could never forge anything. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim accepted the challenge with &amp;quot;regal grace&amp;quot; and both Primarchs stripped to the waist, making every female and male (&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;who bent that way&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[gay|Primarch abs do &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; give a shit about your sexuality]]) artisan swoon in pleasure. For three months the Primarchs worked unceasingly at the forge until at last their weapons were complete. Fulgrim had forged an exquisite warhammer--Forgebreaker--that could level a mountain with a single blow, and Ferrus Manus a golden bladed sword--Fireblade--that forever burned with the fire of the forge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well never let it be said that both Primarchs didn&#039;t appreciate fine craftsmanship; Fulgrim declared that Fireblade equal of that borne by the legendary hero Nuada Silverhand and Ferrus swore that only the mighty thunder gods of Nordyc legend were fit to bear such a magnificent warhammer.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was after the whole affair beneath Mount Nerodnya that Fulgrim came up with Ferrus&#039;s nickname. Arriving at the Imperial Palace, [[Sanguinius]] of the [[Blood Angels]] had arrived bearing gifts from his home world of [[Baal]]. Exquisite statues from the glowing rock of Baal, priceless gem-stones and wondrous artifacts of aragonite, opal, and tourmaline. The lord of the Blood Angels had brought enough to fill a dozen wings of the Palace with the greatest wonders imaginable (apparently Sanguinius tried to imitate Fulgrim&#039;s trick of stroking the Emperor´s ego). Fulgrim was ecstatic over the wonders Sanguinius had brought, but Ferrus Manus had little time for such things and declared that such frivolities were a waste of time when there was still a galaxy out there to conquer. Fulgrim jokingly answered this by saying that Ferrus was a terrible old Gorgon, the nickname stuck and word had it that Ferrus became quite fond of the nickname (considering that his Legion Terminators were called Gorgon Terminators and had unique Gorgon Pattern Armor, he must have). Might have had something to do with his own legion calling him the Medusan, that or the fact his homeworld is called MEDUSA... (GW subtlety strikes again).  &lt;br /&gt;
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These anecdotes notwithstanding, Fulgrim couldn&#039;t hang around Terra all day and having already been merged with the Luna Wolves, they quickly set off on The Great Crusade along with Horus.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
Fulgrim&#039;s quest for perfection began as a need to live up to the honors bestowed upon his legion-- the only legion to bear the Emperor&#039;s own heraldry as its symbol. In his eyes they were a legion apart, set above their brothers by the Emperor&#039;s own hand. Indeed it is true that the Emperor&#039;s Children perhaps could not practice attrition warfare as well as the Iron Warriors, or drop assault as well as the Blood Angels, or fleet engagements as well as the [[Imperial Fists]], instead taking a jack of all trades approach, and most importantly possessing within them the will and drive to become paragons in all things. Fulgrim saw in his children what the Emperor meant for space marines to be, not only experts at war and carnage, but noble, strong, and excelling in all matters. Because of this the Emperor&#039;s Children were noted to place an emphasis on artistic matters and physical appearance, values that to other Astartes seemed vainglorious. &lt;br /&gt;
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By the time Roboute Guilliman had been discovered, Fulgrim was still campaigning alongside Horus and had yet to strike out independently. It seemed that there was some resistance against the Emperor&#039;s Children leaving for the Great Crusade; firstly from his brothers who felt that the Legion had not properly recovered from the genetic degradation that had reduced them to only two hundred marines. For Fulgrim&#039;s part he hated this as a form of pity and felt that his legion was being underutilized, resenting that resources were being diverted to legions which already had strong battle records. Secondly, the Courts of Terra had originally felt that the Emperor&#039;s Children, being largely of noble-stock, were one of the most internally cooperative Legions when they required military agents and had reservations against losing such troops to a different commander, even if it was their own gene-father, so Malcador sent his agents into Fulgrim&#039;s new expeditionary fleet to keep tabs on him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim&#039;s first fully independent action was to bring compliance to the Feudal World of &#039;&#039;&#039;Byzas&#039;&#039;&#039; with only seven marines. Arguing where if [[Leman Russ]] could conquer a world with only 800 men, and [[Horus]] could do it with 80, then Fulgrim would do it with 8 &#039;&#039;(including himself)&#039;&#039;. Such a perfect victory would silence the criticisms of his brothers and his detractors at court. When he landed on Byzas, the hereditary governor of the planet was only too happy to agree to compliance, although they would first have to deal with the various factions of rebels among the nobility as well as the secret societies and revolutionaries throughout the populace. No less than ten different factions attempted to poison Fulgrim on his very first day of arrival &#039;&#039;(something he considered very rude)&#039;&#039; so Fulgrim set himself the goal of achieving compliance within one month. Although the world could not match the Astartes physically or technologically they did have a comparatively advanced form of swordsmanship and philosophy regarding the search for perfection. Even so he could not otherwise hope to wage war against so many factions with only eight men, and set about uniting all of the factions against him for the sake of efficiency &#039;&#039;(even where some more sensible factions wanted to ally themselves with him)&#039;&#039;, presenting a unified front for him to behead and successfully bringing the world to compliance on time, while incorporating the world&#039;s primitive fundamentals of swordplay and philosophy into his own ideals of perfection.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Great Crusade went on, Fulgrim&#039;s focus on perfection became an obsession. It began to alienate their fellow Astartes as more egotistical legionaries like Eidolon ascended up the command chain. During one campaign, Horus came close to rebuking Fulgrim personally for the problems his officer caused. It&#039;s likely that this started when he found the infamous Blade of the Laer, which was more or less responsible for everything going wrong for the IIIrd (and by extension the Xth), as it was inhabited by what is assumed to be a [[Keeper of Secrets]]. Anyways, the corruption&#039;s effects were subtle at first, but eventually a lot of Fulgrim&#039;s restraint vanished, and he became a pretty huge [[Eldrad|dick]]. Also, he became convinced that he&#039;d have to go beyond the Emperor&#039;s work to reach perfection (he felt this way because of the Blight that his legion suffered), leading to him approving of Fabius Bile&#039;s [[Extra Heresy|experiments]] ([[Noise Marines|you can guess what that led to]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Naturally, ugly-ass [[Mortarion]] hated Fulgrim and his vanity--seems he fantasised about Fulgrim&#039;s finery rotting away in the fumes of [[Barbarus]]. [[Jaghatai Khan|Jaghatai]] didn&#039;t have much time for Fulgrim&#039;s boasting about his swordsmanship either and told him during a post-Ulanor meeting that &amp;quot;You have your prowess, but I would leave you choking on it.&amp;quot; Fulgrim at the time did not take particularly well to this, though later he would&#039;ve found this promise strangely arousing. Interestingly, the Khan also made some revealing comparisons of Sanguinius and Fulgrim (though he kept these observations to himself). While both Primarchs were absolutely resplendent, the Khan noted that Sanguinius seemed to be born to such splendor and made it look natural, while Fulgrim looked like a bit of a try-hard, and that while Sanguinius seemed willing to cast aside his finery in a heartbeat, Fulgrim would rather die. The Khan was also of the opinion that Fulgrim could be &amp;quot;irritatingly stupid at times&amp;quot;. So clearly not the best of buds. &lt;br /&gt;
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One incident of note was with the Primarch [[Konrad Curze]] of the [[Night Lords]]. Fulgrim tutored Curze and was the only primarch the Night Haunter really trusted or confided in, due likely in no small part to the fact that Fulgrim was the only Primarch Curze had met on Nostramo who he didn&#039;t see dying horribly in his visions. During one campaign alongside the Imperial Fists, Curze had one of the violent fits of future seeing that he was prone to, and Fulgrim rushed to his aid. Curze told him of visions he had of death at the hands of his father (the Emperor) and Primarchs fighting one another. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim was (understandably) deeply troubled by this, and decided to confide in [[Rogal Dorn]], well known for his [[derp| cool head and fairness]]. In the end though, it turned out to be a mistake as Dorn reacted badly to Curze&#039;s visions. Angered by the very idea that someone would have visions of the Emperor killing one of his sons, he confronted Curze. We don&#039;t know what &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; he said to him, but we do know a) Dorn was [[Crimson Fists|brutally honest]] and b) that it caused Curze to freak out, attack him and then flee. This little incident helped bring about the fall of the Night Lords Legion, but how far it was Fulgrim&#039;s, Dorn&#039;s, or Curze&#039;s responsibility is largely due to Konrad&#039;s absence from Nostramo resulting in his whole Legion becoming staffed by murderers, criminals, and other scum; the very people he so loathed. This being said, Fulgrim should either have kept his mouth shut or found someone less... inflexible than Rogal Dorn to try and help Konrad.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
Old lore says that during the heresy, Fulgrim tried to persuade [[Horus]] to quit his bullshit, but then Horus somehow managed to coerce Fulgrim into joining him, using &amp;quot;decadent pastimes&amp;quot;. Most fa/tg/uys suspect it was a promise of untold amounts of drugs and buttsex. Black Library retconned/modify this; the reason Fulgrim turned was because of the daemon sword he found on Laer, which he became corrupted by. Ironically enough, Laer had been purged of a Slaanesh-worshipping xenos race before this. Then again, they didn&#039;t know it at the time, so, maybe this is Slaanesh&#039;s form of poetic payback? Or maybe (S)he is just a clever (wo)man. Seeking eternal peace from unknowingly murdering his best friend and brother, [[Ferrus Manus]], Fulgrim sacrificed his soul to the daemon inhabiting that sword. The Daemon possessing the sword said sweet nothings into Fulgrim&#039;s ear, promising it would ease his pain... So, let&#039;s recap. This sword was talking to Fulgrim in his head, claimed it could do the unthinkable, and was promising not to fuck him over. So obviously he HAD to trust it! Anyways, Fulgrim gets his soul squashed, paintings get haunted, corpses get implicitly buggered, virgins are featured on [[/d/]], drugs are taken, blood is spilled, noise is made, Slaanesh&#039;s nipple(s) get hard, et cetera...&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim claims to have exorcised the daemon from himself, however, he was later forced to admit that he was lying when Lorgar threatened to expose his possession to the other traitor Legions. Since then, he actually has exercised the daemon, and duped Perturabo into helping him become a Daemon Prince himself. What a twist! After that, Fulgrim only showed up when Horus bothered to summon him; in the meantime he was probably screwing with Slaanesh, or his/her legion, or whatever. All the drugs were probably involved.&lt;br /&gt;
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His first appearance after becoming a Daemon Prince was in the Battle of Dwell where he, Horus, and Mortarion fought against the forces of the [[Iron Hands]], who were still pissed about Fulgrim beheading their primarch, proving that they couldn&#039;t just let bygones be bygones. In addition, 58 Imperial legions (not [[First Founding|those]] legions), the [[Salamanders]], and the [[White Scars]].&lt;br /&gt;
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After having kicked the loyalist forces&#039; collective ass and sending them skulking off, the Iron Hands commander [[Shadrak Meduson]] tried to assassinate Mortarion and Fulgrim by ambushing them in their ship with five [[Storm Eagle#Fire Raptor|Fire Raptors]]. Loe and behold, they failed and ran off again, and just to show that even Black Library doesn&#039;t know the meaning of OP, Fulgrim used his psychic powers to destroy one of the loyalists&#039; crafts before it could escape... yeah, next time, we´ll probably have [[Magnus the Red]] perform party tricks by juggling flagships with both hands tied behind his back. (Seriously why does [[Black Library]] keep trying to build suspense by having people try to assassinate the traitor primarchs when we KNOW they don&#039;t die... yet, so obviously we already know the outcome of the attempt.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Next time, Fulgrim disguised himself as some serpent god of the Knight House of Devine in order to corrupt them... sure, why not? Makes as much sense as anything else. &lt;br /&gt;
(Horus Heresy updates are sure to come later... as with everything else in this god damn article.)&lt;br /&gt;
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After Molech, Fulgrim disappeared again, to the point that [[Eidolon]] was basically running the EC&#039;s operations, with only a third of the Legion and a sudden competence. (Seriously, read Path of Heaven. He&#039;s finally a believable commander, corrupt as he is.) Horus didn&#039;t have a clue where Fulgrim was, or what he was up to, and those Emperor&#039;s Children who hadn&#039;t gone totally crazy had to admit that the Warp-infused, megalomaniac Warmaster now cared about them more than their own dad.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Siege of Terra Rogal Dorn kicked Fulgrim&#039;s daemonic ass hard enough that even if he couldn&#039;t die, Fulgrim was hurt so bad he ragequit the entire siege, abandoning his legion to get mauled by an embarrassingly small force of Imperial Fists. Or at least, that&#039;s what the Imperials want you to think. In reality, he mostly just fucked around (platonically) with Dorn in his pre-snake form for a while before Dorn stabbed him. At which point, Fulgrim instantly healed the wound but then got bored and left to go on a murder orgy amongst Terra&#039;s civies. &lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR: Fulgrim&#039;s sword fucked him in the ass; this makes him asinine, especially considering the fact that he used it to kill [[Ferrus Manus|his best friend]], a man who could &#039;&#039;[[awesome|punch weapons into existence with his bare (metal) hands]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Despite&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Because everything about him screams &amp;quot;[[Matt Ward|flaming homo]]&amp;quot; and/or &amp;quot;[[Weeaboo|Anime Character]]&amp;quot; (He&#039;s literally [[Jojo&#039;s Bizarre Adventure|Dio Brando]]), he did [[gets shit done|get shit done]] in the heresy/post-heresy [[Khorne|killing two other Primarchs]], which is pretty badass. In fact, we all should be grateful he put [[Roboute Guilliman|Granddaddy smurf]] in stasis because he would have likely run off into the eye of terror never to return like half the other other surviving loyalist Primarchs. On that note, it&#039;s time to talk about the [[Battle of Thessala|big battle]]. What we know is, the battle was in realspace and both primarchs had a retinue of their best marines. Fulgrim [[Awesome|managed to out-maneuver everyone&#039;s favorite Spiritual Liege]] and separate Guilliman from his retinue with a giant black cloud; by the time the Ultramarines finally found Guilliman through the smog, the loyalist primarch was bleeding on the floor... &#039;&#039;Kinky...&#039;&#039; (Many Sons of Guilliman sacrificed their lives fighting Fulgrim to buy enough time to evacuate their Primarch)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GRANDPA SMURF IS WHAT AGAIN!?== &lt;br /&gt;
In the closing years of the 41st millennium, the combined force of the Adeptus Mechanicus and the [[Yvraine|Eldar]] have [[GW|magically]] brought [[Roboute Guilliman]] out of stasis. The blue giant is now stretching his limbs and restraining himself from smashing his face against the wall over the state of the Imperium. Suffice to say, news spread fast, and eventually reached the daemon Primarchs. Fulgrim was shown to be——surprise!——quite alive, and to say he was [[Butthurt]] over hearing the revelation that Big Bobby Blue [[Troll|is up and about, possibly giving him the trollface]] [[Rage|is a colossal understatement.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Not to mention he was the first to actually attack the big blue in front of a crowd, who were celebrating his return and most recent victory. Knowing that Slaanesh is alive, Guilliman could never again enjoy something without having to fear the powers of chaos were trying to corrupt him. Dang that must suck. Or, [[Slaanesh|succ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to &#039;&#039;The Fracture of Biel-Tan&#039;&#039;, He was allegedly spotted outside the Eye of Terror for the first time in 10,000 years when the Emperor&#039;s Children assaulted the Imperial Mining World of Extremis Six, wherein they [[Khorne|slaughtered everything.]]  Expect more to follow, because now that Primarchs are fair game, it&#039;s hard to imagine GW passing up the chance to make a giant multi-armed serpent daemon Primarch, especially the one that turned Papa Smurf into a vegetable. Impatient gamers can now kitbash (at very high cost) the new Morathi model to get close to the effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another piece of lore from the &#039;&#039;Phoenix Rising&#039;&#039; book states that a giant, snake bodied, 3 sword wielding, whip handed motherfucker is leading a traitor host known as the Grand Cacophony and slaughtering Imperial Guard and Eldar alike.&lt;br /&gt;
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And now in &#039;&#039;Faith and Fury&#039;&#039; we have ANOTHER tease of our favorite snakeboi. Some Emperor&#039;s Children topple a planet called Yhedaris and &lt;br /&gt;
say that the &amp;quot;Illuminator is coming.&amp;quot; Yeah it&#039;s pretty on the nose about who they&#039;re referring to.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, Fulgrim went to Istvaan III after a sonic beacon caught his attention. There, he met the last loyal Emperor&#039;s Children, the Ancient Dreadnought Rylanor, alongside some Thousand Sons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rylanor revealed he prepared a special &amp;quot;Fuck You&amp;quot; for Fulgrim:  Horus Heresy-era Virus Bomb, which he detonated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Buuuut a Thousand Sons psyker named Akhtar contained the blast, while Fulgrim opened up the Dreadnought like a can of peaches, and offered Rylanor a chance to become like him, but Rylanor told Fulgrim to shove it up his scaly arse.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another Thousand Sons, Vistorio, impressed by Rylanor&#039;s massive balls in front of Fulgrim and not wishing to see Rylanor become Fulgrim&#039;s personal fleshlight, pulled up his Bolt-Pistol and capped Akhtar. The Life-Eater Virus was free and consumed Istvaan III and everyone there. Snakey-Boi Fulgrim survived, but his pride was wounded.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Fulgrim:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 8 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 8 || 5 || 10 || 2+/5++/3++ in CC&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:FulgrimMini.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Fulgrim &amp;lt;s&amp;gt; The Collector &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; the Illuminator, Primarch of the Emperor&#039;s Children.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fulgrim is very good at fighting both rank and file and HQ&#039;s due to his high initiative (8) granting extra attacks and his good save in close combat. Also he is really fast thanks to Crusader and Fleet, so he will have an easy time to reach combat. Fulgrim has some pretty good defense with 2+, 5++ (3++ in CC), Primarch rule, T6/W6 and whenever he passes an armor or invulnerable save in CC on a 6 the enemy takes a blind test. For weapons he has a shredding volkite charger, which is ok, and the Sword of Laer, an AP2 and rending close combat weapon, which is surprisingly weak for a Primarch weapon, striking at S 6 and with only 5 attack base. But never fear, &#039;cause you can always upgrade him to carry Fireblade(at least for battles set during the Great Crusade) at no additional cost!&lt;br /&gt;
Fireblade is a Master Crafted Paragon Blade that instant kills on to wound rolls of 5+, [[Derp|and is so much better than the Blade of the Laer it actually hurts]], so always use it. With it Fulgrim can really step up and fight other Primarch without fear, like he should.&lt;br /&gt;
On the supporting side, he is actually one of the best Primarchs: Sire of the Emperor&#039;s Children force him to challenge any opponents who has at least WS 5 (not a real downside, as you would love to challenge almost anyone due to his Sublime Swordsman rule) and also grants him Crusader, but more importantly gives to every units with Adeptus Astartes (Emperor&#039;s Children) on the table plus Fulgrim himself +2 to Combat Resolution, meaning easy victories from your units, that will almost certainly overrun the other side thanks to Crusader and their mostly superior initiative. Also, units with Adeptus Astartes (Emperor&#039;s Children) can Reroll their reserves roll, whether successful or not. Lastly, Strategic Planning let him choose one warlord trait from either the Legion Warlord Traits or the Strategic Traits, making him able to adapt to his enemies and the situations he will face.&lt;br /&gt;
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His cheap cost combined with his powerful force multiplier abilities conspire to make this sick fuck an excellent choice, but he&#039;ll need a transport to avoid getting shot to death before he reaches combat. Plasma in particular will just make anyone using Fulgrim cry, so keep this in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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He should have also had access to the &#039;&#039;&#039;MURDER SWORD&#039;&#039;&#039; (Anathame), but Forge World forgot he had it in the books. Now the books have progressed far enough to know that [[Erebus]] took the sword back and smashed it into eight daggers.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fulgrim VS other Primarchs:===&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying. With that in mind this section is how Fulgrim fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise. Please note that all the various abilities are taken into account when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. In essence, the fights are supposed to be in a &amp;quot;Vacuum&amp;quot; for simplicity, but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?) so naturally Fulgrim will use Fireblade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times (Talon), wounds 2.667 times, 0.889 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.555 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.555.&lt;br /&gt;
**Apparently, a fair fight...but taking into account the -1 to WS and S from the Talon of Horus at the first wounds that Fulgrim will receive, the scale will decisively tip in favor of Horus. Also he could use Worldbreaker to easily negate Fulgrim +2 attack for his initiative, but on the long term the Talon is more effective.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 1.069 (1.248) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.736 (0.915) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage (if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t choose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait) but is frailer (the irony!) with a weaker save and 1 less wound (I guess that&#039;s the catch to have nails inserted directly into your brain...) so he will need 6 (6.1) rounds to kill Fulgrim, with the latter also needing 6 (5.5), but since Fulgrim has higher initiative he&#039;ll strike first and kill Angron just slightly before he&#039;s killed. Also with Child of Terra there, it&#039;s almost no contest...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.555 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 6 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The first fight against a Primarch who isn&#039;t specialised in dueling and Fulgrim (most appropriately), wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 5.629 (Master-crafted) times, wounds 3.284 times (Child of Terra), 1.094 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.761 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.611 times, wounds 2.107 times, 0.702 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.369 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The infamous match! And also one of the closest, with the same outcome as the lore unless Fulgrim either has the Laer Blade or he doesn&#039;t have Child of Terra, in which case he doesn&#039;t really stand a chance. With the Hammer, Ferrus is like Fulgrim&#039;s worst nightmare, &#039;cause strikedown will go off even if the strike doesn&#039;t wound him, reducing his initiative to 4 and stripping him of all his advantages. In the end, Fulgrim will win on the 11th round, while Ferrus needs 12 rounds to come on top, so Fulgrim did really well to take the hammer away. Also, a really epic fight!&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;Its worth noting that in the fluff during this duel Ferrus was fighting with Fireblade and Fulgrim with Forgebreaker. Here&#039;s how well that goes: against a primarch Fireblade is only a little better than just using his bare hands, though against most Primarchs Ferrus still wounds on a 2+ so it&#039;s all right for him. For Fulgrim though Forgebreaker is a HUGE upgrade. He goes from wounding of 4+ to 2+ thanks to strength 10. Most importantly Ferrus will no longer have Concussive to mitigate Fulgrim&#039;s sublime swordsman rules so he still get&#039;s more attacks. Even worse is that since Fulgrim can concuss Ferrus down to initiative 1, sublime swordsman will generate SEVEN additional attacks whenever concuss hits and hitting so much means it should be every turn. And even worse is that since Ferrus is down to initiative 1 a lot of the time, Blind is much much more likely to hit. It doesn&#039;t even matter if we make Forgebreaker unwieldy in Fulgrim&#039;s hands because unwieldy doesn&#039;t actually reduce initiative, it just makes you fight at that initiative step, and putting out so much more damage means striking at the same time simply doesn&#039;t matter. In the first turn Fulgrim should get that first unsaved wound to concuss and after that it gets disgusting. Once Fulgrim concusses Ferrus he gets 12(!) attacks (since sublime swordsman doesn&#039;t limit the bonus attacks it can give) hitting on 3+ (8 hits) wounding on 2+ (5.3 wounds) which is a frankly disgusting 3.5 wounds after saves. IWND will take that down to 3.177 but holy shit is Ferrus screwed. He dies after 3 rounds of combat and quite frankly he gets wrecked like a bitch. With Forgebreaker there&#039;s a reasonable chance that Fulgrim could take on Horus simply because the combination of sublime swordsman and concussive is just so powerful (it becomes a matter of where or not Horus fails his 3+ save against stat penalties before the claw cripples Fulgrim enough - and odds are against Lupercal in it).&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Turns out Fulgrim WAS the better smith, after all.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times, 1.167 times after saves and FNF and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Easy win for Fulgrim.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.556 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1 (And every round he is not Concussed): hits 6 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wounds after saves and 0.444 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 (And every round he IS Concussed): hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and 0.111 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Another really difficult fight for Fulgrim, but he should come out on top nevertheless, &#039;cause even counting in the 55% chance of a lower damage output he still does a little bit more damage on the whole. Still, really hard.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Lorgar&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.0833 times, 0.694 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4.556 times, wounds 2.53 times, 1.265 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.932 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 5.333 times/4 times (Concussed), wounds 3.556 times/2.667 (Concussed), 1.778 times/1.333 (Concussed) after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444/1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easy victory: even if counting in concussive, Fulgrim will do a lot more damage to Lorgar, and he also has +1 wound.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: as always, psychic powers not included.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wounds after saves and 0.667 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and 0.333 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Blinded: hits 1.667 times, wounds 1.111 times, 0.37 times after saves and 0.037 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667, 0.555 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo (with Fulgrim Blinded) hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222, 0.741 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim surprisingly loses as after the first round he will be brought to I 4 (by Strikedown) and then Blinded and or Concussed pretty much every round (actually 85% of the total rounds, if my calculations are correct, that is more than enough for Perturabo to destroy him).&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.92 times and wounds 1.701 times, 0.567 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.234 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.556, 1.778 wounds after saves and 1.444 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easily wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.5 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4.5 times, wounds 3, 1.5 wounds after saves and 1.167 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Another easy win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 1 wounds (Scourge)/0.75 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667/0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4.667/3.5 times, wounds 3.111/2.333 times, 2.07/1.555 wounds after saves and 1.737/1.222 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easily win in a challenge. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: even with Hit &amp;amp; Run and Sire of Raven Guard Corax cannot win this fight, unless he gets lucky with Blind.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 5.333 times (Fireblade is MC), wounds 3.555 times, 1.528 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.195 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.083 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.75 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Concussed Fulgrim (cannot happen earlier than round 3): Hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.75 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds.&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Gladius Incandor Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.74 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Gladius Incandor Round 3 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 0.988 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.654 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Hand of Dominion Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Hand of Dominion Round 3 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.777 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.593 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**An unsurprising loss for Guilliman. If Guilliman chooses to use the Gladius Incandor, Fulgrim will out-damage him in the long run, and if he chooses to concuss Fulgrim, Fulgrim temporarily loses his extra attacks, but Guilliman cannot put out enough damage to keep Fulgrim concussed, meaning Fulgrim gets back up to his normal initiative, gains his extra attacks back, and beats down Guilliman.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Fulgrim vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: Hits 2.142 (6 attacks, Master Crafted) times, wounds 1.903 times (Child of Terra), down to 0.952 after saves and 0.592 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ: Hits 4.381 times, wounds 3.65, 1.217 wounds after saves and 0.884 wounds after IWND (Axe of Helwinter)&lt;br /&gt;
** Fulgrim puts up a better fight than most with his 3++ save, but ultimately his damage output is totally crippled by having to hit on 5s, just like all the other Primarchs, and he is slowly ground out.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim vs Jaghatai &lt;br /&gt;
**Jaghatai hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 0.666 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 2.333 times, 0.777 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**If Fulgrim doesn&#039;t have Child of Terra it&#039;s a dead tie as they have the same initiative (the White Tiger Dao has Duelist&#039;s Edge), with it, Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Fulgrim VS Sanguinius&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 3 times (Fireblade), wounds 2.333 times (Child of Terra), 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2: hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.722 times, 1.361 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.028 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.859 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius loses as Fulgrim has a chance of killing him in round 5 (5.94 wounds average), and even if not Fulgrim has the higher initiative in round 6.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius can beat Fulgrim by round 5 (5.93 wounds average) while lowering Fulgrim&#039;s own chances, but if he doesn&#039;t Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TL;DR version: Fulgrim is a really good challenger, having better chances against almost any other Primarch except for Horus, Perturabo (Only with Forgebreaker) and Leman Russ. He struggles a little with something that can impair his Initiative (Concussive, Strikedown), but is still a really tough Primarch and difficult to put down in a fight, like he should be.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:zFulgrimXHorus.jpg|The face that launched a 1,000 slashfics. The sad part is that dialogue is lifted directly from a Horus Heresy book.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim WIP by SelenaH.jpg|One sexy and psychopathic bastard.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim by kabarsa.jpg|Here he&#039;s an ugly bald old man covered in scars. NOT HAWT. Also he has black wings for some reason. [[Sanguinius|ORIGINAL WINGS DO NOT STEAL]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim and ferrus by thevampiredio.jpg|[[Ferrus Manus|Ferrus]] is such a troll. From a Horus Heresy book too.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fulgrim&amp;amp;FerrusArt.jpg|In the end Ferrus did give it a try after all.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim is perfect by Karooz.jpg|His perfection will drive you to the point of orgasm.&lt;br /&gt;
File:I would read it.jpg|The vidya geam&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1429866033465.jpg|In a way, he&#039;s kinda like the galactic bicycle of Primarchs.&lt;br /&gt;
File:10962088 973159792695856 706338122 n.jpg| Fulgrim after his ascension.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|For years I have despised Lorgar... look at [[Roboute Guilliman|your primarch]], Honorius. So singular in aspect. So noble. I have envied you, envied the [[Rogal Dorn|Imperial Fists]], the [[Horus|Luna Wolves]], the [[Ferrus Manus|Iron Hands]]. And I am not alone. We struggle with a mercurial mind, Honorius. We labour under the burden of a brilliant but fallible commander. We no longer bear the word, my friend. We bear &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Lorgar&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.|Sorot Tchure, a Captain of the Word Bearers, to Captain Honorius Luciel of the [[Ultramarines]] (shortly before Tchure betrayed him at Calth)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;The dude himself.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens|hence it&#039;s erroneously attributed to him]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{topquote|All I ever wanted was the truth...|First &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;lie&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; line of the Book Of Lorgar}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The human incarnation of &#039;Did Nothing Wrong&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Lorgar&#039;&#039;&#039;, also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Lorgar Aurelian&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Bearer of the Word&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Urizen&#039;&#039;&#039; (cf. William Blake), &#039;&#039;&#039;The Golden One&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[TTS|The Goddamned Choir Boy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Hamborgar&#039;&#039;&#039;, and (if you&#039;re [[Konrad Curze]]) &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Awesome|Pathetic]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, is the [[Primarch]] of the [[Word Bearers]] legion, the extra religious legion of [[Chaos Space Marines|Kheyos Sphess Mahreens]]. He is credited within [[40k]] [[fluff]] for being &#039;&#039;the&#039;&#039; first Primarch to fall to the [[Chaos Gods|Ruinous Powers]]. Yes, we know what you&#039;re thinking and no, [[Horus]] was just the most powerful Primarch, had the capacity to lead the actual Rebellion and the first to be public about it. Lorgar was the first to be corrupted, though this wasn&#039;t noticed as he was very secretive about it. Also, looks just like Patrick Stewart, and [[Media:Handsomelorgar.png|Handsome Squidward]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pre-Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Lorgar-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|right|thumb|Young Lorgar writing his first &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Chaos&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; religious fan-fic. With a single fuckhuge [[pauldron]] &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;for whatever reason&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; because he&#039;s in 40K]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis&#039; chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered  [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his &amp;quot;son&amp;quot; (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely &#039;&#039;ecstatic.&#039;&#039; Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; loved him, we are talking about &#039;&#039;yandere&#039;&#039; levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the Lectitio Divinitatus which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn&#039;t endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus; Lorgar had little friends or support amongst his brothers. (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close and he would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be.) This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn&#039;t help to wonder ([[Fail|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn&#039;t really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him &#039;&#039;Illuminarum&#039;&#039; and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar&#039;s greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It&#039;s like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar&#039;s religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar&#039;s discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see &amp;quot;The First Heretic&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
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What is even more mind boggling is that - despite this fact - it neither occurred to the Emprah nor Magnus, who are both supposed to be hyper geniuses, that it probably would have been the sensible thing to tell Lorgar right then and there that religion was not really the Emprah&#039;s thing... instead of waiting a whole century before letting Lorgar know that he had messed up. The Emprah even went so far as to tell Lorgar that &amp;quot;out of all of his sons&amp;quot; Lorgar, and Lorgar alone, had failed him. Again, after 100 years, making his bitterness and eventual fall of Chaos much more understandable. Considering such, the Emprah could not have reacted worse; severe enough to embitter Lorgar but without any attempt to rehabilitate the inevitable festering wound. A fact that apparently Malcador eventually realized at some point as in the audio drama he says &amp;quot;if there is one Primarch I wish we could have saved, I would have hoped it to be Lorgar&amp;quot; (not exact quote, but close). Guilliman had similar reservations. He never acted on them until too [[Battle of Calth|late]], probably because Lorgar had not even been super excited about what he saw in the Warp and called it &amp;quot;horror&amp;quot;. But under the gentle guidance of Kor Phaeron and (fuck) Erebus; the two eventually managed to corrupt him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Severely humiliated and wracked with self-doubt, Lorgar secluded himself in Emo sulking, and began listening to Kor Phaeron (now First Captain of the Word Bearers) and First [[Chaplain]] [[Erebus]] about the facts of the Old Faith of Colchis: many other worlds shared similar concepts of such gods. Having unrelated worlds share a single common faith, is this evidence that [[Chaos|such Gods beyond the realm of material existence]] truly existed and were worthy of worship? This in turn led to Lorgar, willing to expand his enlightenment and guided by the sorcerer Ingethel the Ascended of the planet [[Cadia]], plunging headfirst into the [[Eye of Terror]]. The rest is &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;history&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; heresy. The legion that was the slowest to conquer planets, ended up becoming the fastest one. Lorgar would command his legion to slaughter anybody who did not agree with Imperial rule, women and children included.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the heresy Lorgar was widely considered the weakest Primarch as both a fighter and warlord, preferring to act more as a [[Reasonable Marines|diplomat]] and [[Ecclesiarchy|preacher]]. His actions during the Heresy proved everyone wrong (or maybe his power grew massively once he tapped into his psychic powers- he nearly got shredded by Corvus during the Drop Site Massacre). When Lorgar first toured the Eye of Terror, he was forced to fight An&#039;ggrath the Unbound (who is to [[Bloodthirster]]s what Bloodthirsters are to Gretchin) in order to prove himself worthy of becoming the champion of Chaos Undivided, and [[What|won]]. He also got a visit from Kairos Fateweaver, informing him of his possible futures in a one-time deal where that [[Lord of Change]] would only speak the truth, primarily involving his future campaign on Calth, and a very important choice to make.&lt;br /&gt;
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His&amp;lt;s&amp;gt; plan of attack&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; shooting of his allies in the back on Calth resulted in beating the shit out of Ultramarine forces two times his army&#039;s size, proving Lorgar was also a damn good warlord. Even the fact that his Calth attack force was finally screwed over was part of his plan: the entire point of the Calth war was to purge the Legion of ignorant hotheads who put revenge and hatred over Chaos worshiping, in addition, Fateweaver explicitly told him that [[Roboute Guilliman]] had to survive the campaign on Calth, which would cause him to become paranoid &amp;amp; doubtful and therefore start summoning his forces to [[Macragge]] to create &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Imperium Secundus]]&#039;&#039;&#039; which would starve [[Terra]] of resources and possibly swing the war in the direction of Horus. Killing Guilliman would mean that the separatists would never get that chance, so Lorgar had to make a choice between slaying his most hated brother, or sparing him for a shot at something greater.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, in the Horus Heresy novels it&#039;s seen he actually cared a lot for all of his brothers and tried to befriend them. Closest to him among his brothers was perhaps Magnus, which is more than you can say about some loyalist primarchs. Though with different approaches, they were both more scholars than warriors, with lifelong pursuit of knowledge and enlightenment. And both felt more or less distanced from others due to their interests ad ideologies. So its natural that the Religious Preacher and a Philosopher King saw kindred spirits in eachother.  He was also pretty much the only one who cared about Angron in some way and actually ran the ritual which transformed Angron into a Daemon Prince, thus freeing him of the Butcher&#039;s Nails and premature death. He even seems to be good friends with Leman Russ, referenced in Betrayer given that Russ read something Lorgar wrote and thought that was some spiritual shit worth remembering, which is pretty significant considering how down-to-earth this guy was. Also in The First Heretic, Magnus tells Lorgar that Russ argued for preserving Lorgar&#039;s place in the crusade and sparing him excommunication when the Emps was pondering kicking Lorgar to the curb. More significantly, when Lorgar asked Russ and Magnus to stop fighting, they &#039;&#039;&#039;actually listened.&#039;&#039;&#039; The two Primarchs who just might have had the most mutual hatred stopped fighting because Lorgar asked them to. And with this comes another major topic with Lorgar:&lt;br /&gt;
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Emperor was generally unsatisfied with the slow rate of reclamation by the Word Bearers and due to this regarded him as one of the most inefficient Primarchs. However, this may rather show how incredibly moronic the Emperor could be in his judgement. Yes, Lorgar wasnt as fast in conquests as his brethren. HOWEVER, there are these factors to be considered:&lt;br /&gt;
#Lorgar rarely even engaged in combat. Most of the reclaimed planets were won by word and faith, rather than fire and sword.&lt;br /&gt;
#Consequently from the first one, planets under Lorgar were not been left as [[Perturabo|ruined]], [[Konrad_Curze|terrorized]], [[Angron|Butchered]], [[Mortarion|Desolate shitholes]], and newly acquired, intact planets would start giving immediate benefits to the Imperium. In fact, alongside Dorn and Guilliman, Lorgar was one of the rarer conquerors who left the conquered place in BETTER state than before the conquest.&lt;br /&gt;
#One of the main reasons for the slow rate of reclamation by Lorgar was because he spent large amount of time spreading his ideology among local population. Due to his charisma and religious zeal, he would convince the population of the benefits of Imperial rule, how great and mighty humans would be when they would rule the entire Galaxy and so on, to the point that the citizens would become fiercely loyal to the Imperium, rendering a rebellion practically impossible.&lt;br /&gt;
#The Emperor made him and his Legion for this specialization, judging from the fact the Emperor created ever facet of Lorgar’s being and from how the Imperial Heralds functioned prior to joining their Primarch.&lt;br /&gt;
Now, with these factors in mind, a [[Reasonable_Marines|Reasonable ruler]] who is not [[Emperor|headachingly retarded]], once he would find out what kind of person he was dealing with, would perhaps simply relieve him from his military duties, and instead would appoint him as head of the Imperial Propaganda or Diplomatic apparatus, where his talents would be used at maximum efficiency. Angron or Mortarion might have been able to make war more effectively, but only Horus was Lorgar&#039;s equal in diplomacy. Even when grudging with his brothers he was quite diplomatic, and he sincerely believed he could eventually convince everyone else about his point of view on the Emperor&#039;s divinity.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was also terrifyingly powerful Psyker, but refused to use his gift for the same reasons. He ceased this emo shit after falling to Chaos, turning into a bad ass sorcerer able to rival Magnus, or at least Magnus&#039;s psychic projection, which is still far beyond any 40k-level monster-Psyker capabilities. In fact he was the third or forth most powerful (once-Imperial) Psyker in the galaxy: second to only Big E, Magnus and maybe Malcador. (A couple of daemons and [[Eldrad|a certain dick]] might give him a run for his money as well if you consider non-humans.)&lt;br /&gt;
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He also bore the greatest physical similarity to the Emperor: under his golden tattoos he looked exactly like a younger version of Big E&#039;s true form (yeah, yeah, da Emprah told Corax that he had no true form, but then he also said that daemons were minor xenos pests, so figure that out yourself). He has also dabbled in [[Meme|Trolling]] shown in one scene in &#039;&#039;Know No Fear&#039;&#039;, where he&#039;s pretty much blatantly trolling Guilliman.&lt;br /&gt;
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Take that BITCH.&lt;br /&gt;
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His actions during the Heresy mainly consisted of keeping Angron on a slaughter path as well as saving his life. He repeatedly tried to get Magnus to join the traitors but realised that he was totally out of his depth in terms of warpcraft. Unfortunately, Lorgar turned out to be closer in mentality to Erebus than he would ever like to admit. When Horus was elevated by the gods on Molech, Lorgar grew frustrated about how Horus would not submit to Chaos and received a vision of his leadership leading to their defeat on Terra. When Horus was wounded by the Emperor&#039;s Spear, Lorgar sensed the opportunity to usurp him as Warmaster as well as High Priest of Arch-Chaos. &lt;br /&gt;
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Suffice to say that it did not go to plan and a revived Horus curb-stomped him publicly in front of the entire massed traitor forces on Ullanor. He would have killed Lorgar but relented at the last minute, banishing him from his court and telling him that Lorgar would die if Horus ever saw him again (which turned out to be moot later but partly explained why Lorgar isolated himself from his brothers afterwards). A small portion of five thousand Word Bearers, led by Zardu Layak, swore themselves to Horus at that point and Lorgar warned the Warmaster that his refusal to submit to the Chaos Gods would lead to the traitors&#039; defeat. One can only assume that following Horus&#039; death that there was a lot of smug &amp;quot;I told you so&amp;quot;-ing on Lorgar&#039;s end.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Post Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lorgar portrait.jpg|thumb|left|&#039;&#039;&#039;GREETINGS MEWLING CORPSE SLAVE, DO YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO HEAR ABOUT THE GOOD WORD OF CHAOS UNDIVIDED?&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lorgar.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Note that his [[Galactic Partridges|purity seals have purity seals]] and his scalp is inscribed with holy scripture. Because if you are going to do it, you have to do it right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
So now he&#039;s the Daemon-Primarch of the [[Word Bearers]], the guys who make the rest of the Chaos Space Marines look like all around swell secular humanist types. They&#039;re kind of like Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, except instead of knocking on your door and telling you about Jesus they knock down your door and ask you which end of a daemon summoning you want to be on. This tends to make Chaos&#039; otherwise awful selling pitch seem oddly compelling. He also has a particular hatred for atheists, so he loathes his atheist daddy Emprah and the [[Tau|weeaboo space communists]] more than he hates everything else.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion&#039;s sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin&#039; Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar&#039;s plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium&#039;s golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the Lectitio Divinitatus (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don&#039;t. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor&#039;s divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar&#039;s autograph....&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the Heresy, Lorgar&#039;s notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia.  Seriously, [[Magnus the Red|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming &amp;quot;[[JUST AS PLANNED]]&amp;quot; at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]&#039; shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly &amp;quot;Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done&amp;quot; quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won&#039;t get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he&#039;s entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it&#039;s boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during &#039;&#039;The First Heretic&#039;&#039;, which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently he was actually working on some new daemon summoning techniques, which he taught Abbadon before the Thirteenth Black Crusade. Which on the whole... is pathetic, that&#039;s like something they should be doing on their off hours when not busy slaughtering Imperial worlds. Given that Abbadon&#039;s the only other big player on the Chaos side who&#039;s still devoted to toppling the Imperium in the name of Chaos Undivided, you&#039;d think Lorgar would be beside him every step of the way. The prevailing theory is that he&#039;s busy &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Indulging Slaanesh&#039;s churchboy fantasies&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &amp;quot;contemplating the mysteries of Chaos&amp;quot;. Although if you want to be logical, (if logic could be applied to chaos or 40k in general) him being the daemon prince of chaos undivided means that he must execute the will of chaos undivided, which is, incidentally, divided, and as such, he can&#039;t do shit.  Or he, being essentially a spiritual entity, doesn’t need to be “physically” present to guide Abbadon.&lt;br /&gt;
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As of M42 where shit has most definitely hit the fan in the form of the Great Rift splitting the Galaxy in half, Lorgar has apparently been seen leading the Word Bearers on their Unholy Crusades. So looks like he&#039;s finally gotten off his lazy ass! However [[Corvus Corax]] is now consumed by the singular purpose of getting revenge on his traitorous brothers. Corax descended on Lorgar and spoiled his otherwise magnificent appearance after ten thousand years busy doing fucking nothing. Surprisingly the balance of power did not change between the two, and Lorgar, again, ran for his life, as his [[Konrad Curze|original backup]] seemed to be too busy being dead to help him again. As of now, it has been reported that he has locked himself back in his tower on Sicarus, rocking back and forth on the floor and yelping every time a bird comes near his window.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Poor Lorgar?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Pre-Retcon? Of course. Even though he had to have known he was breaking the Imperial Truth it&#039;s not like any of his actions were to the detriment of the Imperium. If you don&#039;t know why you can re-read the sections above. &lt;br /&gt;
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But that wasn&#039;t [[Edgy|edgy]] enough, so GW swooped in with retcons.  Post-retcon?  Not so much. While Lorgar still peacefully brought worlds into fanatical compliance, he also had no issue committing atrocities against worlds which refused Lorgar&#039;s religion. It&#039;s not like Lorgar was any more heavy-handed than his more militarily efficient brothers, but at this point he was also doing the very things the Imperial Truth was made to prevent in the first place. The retcon also (clearly) add that Lorgar received multiple warnings by Big E prior to Monarchia to change course. Lorgar would ignore much more explicit instructions for a century before Big E&#039;s hand was forced at Monarchia. Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean that Big E couldn&#039;t have handled Monarchia much differently, or that the Imperial Truth was actually a sensible plan. Lorgar basically drank his own kool-aid and would suffer the consequences of not following basic instructions - likely because a highly religious Primarch will not turn atheist if you tell him to. Lorgar would go from doing the Emperor&#039;s bidding to the bidding of entities known for [[Khorne|destruction]], [[Slaanesh|degeneracy]], [[Nurgle|disease]], and [[Tzeentch|deception]]. Even worse, he did so even after being shown what would happen if he followed said entities.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On The Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Lorgar Aurelian.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Lorgar&#039;s model, the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;first&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; second in [[Forge World]]&#039;s Primarch line (Angron was first). Unfortunately, while very nice, it shows in his static pose and (relatively) standard design of power armour. This said, Lorgar&#039;s armor is noted in the First Heretic to be as plain as regular Mk3, which sounds very unlike Mr. Tattoo-Head and should be ignored.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lorgar may be the cheapest of the Primarchs, and he may have one the lowest statlines amongst them (aside from a decent initiative), but do not let this fool you - used properly he can be one of the most powerful Primarchs.&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, he magnifies the strong points of his legion: Word Bearers are already quite brave with 3d6 morale tests (discarding the highest dice). Lorgar makes them all Ld10 (for Morale and Pinning tests, does not require LoS), and immune to Fear, effectively turning them into the bravest non-fearless army in 30k bar the [[Adeptus Custodes]] and [[Solar Auxilia]], but only if the squad sees him, i.e., has LoS. Hell, even in 40k none could rival their resolve (apart from Tyranids until you kill their synapse, or Deathwing Terminators). Word Bearers are quite good in melee with their compulsory psyker-chaplains, ability to re-roll 1s for sweeping advance and cheap melee-friendly squad-wide buffing through Dark Channeling; Lorgar enhances their close combat by granting +1 to charge distance and combat resolution (LoS needed). He also confers his crusader rule to any unit he joins, further increasing the chances of successful sweeping advances if they win in melee.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Lorgar himself, he wields &#039;&#039;Illuminarum&#039;&#039;, a S8 AP2 MС [[Power Weapon|power maul]] with Smash; a MC S6 AP3 pistol for +1A and 2+/4++ armour which grants 3++ against &#039;&#039;any psychic empowered attacks (including witchfire powers and blows from Force Weapons)&#039;&#039;, but against Witchfires is a bit redundant, because Lorgar would likely Deny any spell targeted at him with his rerollable DtW on 3+. He can also force one model or unit to reroll all 5-6 to hit and to wound against him once per game, which is obviously his &amp;quot;I win&amp;quot; button in challenges.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lorgar&#039;s main strength is that he&#039;s a ML2 psyker with access to Divination  and Telekinesis. Though he got a handicap, he can only harness warp charges on 5+ &#039;&#039;(amended for 7th edition by FAQ)&#039;&#039; this matters very little, because he can (and should) be upgraded to ML3, where he harnesses warp charges on 3+ and gains the freedom to pick powers manually at the start of the game instead of randomly rolling them. This is where he starts turning into rape machine, as both Divination and Telekinesis have quite a murderfuck set of powers normally compensated by the fact that there&#039;s only a small chance of getting the good ones. While losing access to Telepathy (and Invisibility by extension) in his revised rules is a bit of a setback since he can&#039;t cheese his way through most Primarch vs. Primarch fights like he used to, the variety of supporting powers that Divination provide are a fine compensation for that. Precognition seems to take the mantle of his &amp;quot;I win&amp;quot; button, making him both tougher and killier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Assuming you take Lorgar ascended to pick your powers, tailor your needs to suit your opponent. Precognition, as previously mentioned, turns him into a challenge monster who gets to reroll all of the things. Objuration Mechanicum is another solid power, getting easy hull points off vehicle squadrons or making units kill themselves that rely on volume of fire to cause wounds in the shooting phase. Misfortune is particularly good against MEQ units to begin with and the ability to simply have it when you need it is equally good as a result. Should you sit Lorgar back with a heavy support squad full of high damage weapons, laugh at all the death inflicted from Perfect Timing denying cover saves (though that&#039;s a strange use of a 450 (when upgraded) point model). Really, your imagination is the limit and the ability to have the power that will benefit you the most against the army you&#039;re playing is worth the 75 point Lorgar upgrade, all day every day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lorgar VS other Primarchs:===&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (and Lorgar&#039;s abilities and statline mean he&#039;s much better suited to fighting marines where he can Instant Death them), with that in mind this section is how Lorgar fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise. Please note that all the various abilities, with the exception of Blind and Lorgar&#039;s powers, are taken into account (Blind is ignored because it never helps nor hinders the outcome of the fights, and psychic powers are too random to apply to this and don&#039;t work often enough to sway the fight) and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. Note too this mathhammer is only based on regular Lorgar.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Horus (using The Talon)&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Horus hits 3.444 times, wounds 1.775 times, 0.887 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.554 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Horus hits 4 times, wounds 3.554, 1.777 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits Horus 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 0.833 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Angron hits 4.888 times, wounds 3.846 times, 1.923 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.59 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333, 1.666 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits Angron 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 0.833 after saves and FNP and IWND will take that to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lorgar VS Fulgrim &lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1 (Laer Blade): Fulgrim hits 4.147 times, wounds 1.726 times, 0.863 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.530 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2 (Laer Blade): Fulgrim hits 4.666 times, wounds 2.333 times, 1.166 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1 (FireBlade): Fulgrim hits 4.147 times, wounds 2.456 times, 1.228 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.895 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2 (FireBlade): Fulgrim hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits Fulgrim 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 0.833 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: If Fulgrim is concussed he loses a significant amount of damage, but even at his worst (Laer, no CoT and concussed) he matches Lorgar&#039;s output and will beat him one turn earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Mortarion hits 2.961 times, wounds 1.752 times, 0.876 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.543 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Mortarion hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.222 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits Mortarion 3 times, wounds 2 times, 1 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Ferrus hits 2.37 times, wounds 1.865 times (Forgebreaker)/1.58 times (Bare Hands), 0.932 times after saves (Forgebreaker)/0.79 times (Bare Hands) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.599/0.457 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Ferrus hits 2.666 times, wounds 2.221 times (Forgebreaker)/1.777 times (Bare Hands), 1.11 times after saves (Forgebreaker)/0.888 times (Bare Hands) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.777/0.555 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Curze hits 3.555 times, wounds 2.369 times, 1.184 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.851 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Curze hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1.5 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Vulkan hits 2.37 times, wounds 1.865 times, 0.932 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.599 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Vulkan hits 2.666 times, wounds 2.221 times, 1.11 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.777 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and 0.111 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Perturabo hits 2.37 times (both types), wounds 1.58 times (Normal)/1.865 times (Forgebreaker), 0.79 wounds (Normal)/0.932 wounds (Forgebreaker) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.457/0.599 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Perturabo hits 2.666 times (both types), wounds 1.777 times (Normal)/2.221 times (Forgebreaker), 0.888 wounds (Normal)/1.11 wounds (Forgebreaker) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.555/0.777 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 0.833 wounds after saves and 0.5 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. With Forgebreaker, BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1 times after saves and reroll and IWND will take that down to 0.667.&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1: hits 2.778 times, wounds 1.85 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.593 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 1.48 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.15 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Rogal Dorn hits 2.37 times (Normal)/1.259 times (Sundering Blow), wounds 1.579 times (normal)/1.164 times (Sundering Blow), 0.789/0.582 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.456/0.249 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Rogal Dorn hits 2.666 times (Normal)/1.333 times (Sundering Blow), wounds 2 times (normal)/1.295 times (Sundering Blow), 1/0.648 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667/0.315 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 1 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A close fight! It depends on who rolls IWND first - if Dorn does, he has a very good chance of beating Lorgar in 6 rounds (4.98 wounds), but if he doesn&#039;t Lorgar will Concuss him and win next turn by striking first. If Lorgar starts first, the odds shift further in his favor.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 1: Corvus hits 4.741 times (Scourge)/3.555 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3.16 times (Scourge)/2.369 times (Shadow-walk), 1.58 wounds (Scourge)/1.184 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.247/0.851 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Round 2: Corvus hits 5.333 times (Scourge)/4 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3.999 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), 1.999 wounds (Scourge)/1.5 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.666/1.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3/2 times, wounds 2.5/1.667 times, 1.667/1.111 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333/0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses this fight. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lorgar VS Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
** The weakest Primarch stats-wise vs. the one built up from the ground to demolish his brothers in 1v1 fights, do you really need the maths here? With his upgraded psyker powers Lorgar does at least put up a fight before going down, but without them he gets [[rape|wrecked]]. BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Jaghatai Khan&lt;br /&gt;
**Jaghatai hits 5.333 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar loses BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Sanguinius&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 1: hits 3.889 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 2.881 times, 1.44 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.107 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sanguinius on the charge: hits 4.444 times (assuming Lorgar uses Dark Fortune), wounds 3.959 times (including HoW), 1.979 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.646 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.778 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar loses BADLY.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius round 1: hits 3.333 times, wounds 1.9444 times, 0.972 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.639 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius round 2: hits 3.889 times, wounds 2.268 times, 1.134 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.801 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.917 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar wins thanks to Concussive!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Lorgar VS Magnus&lt;br /&gt;
** Magnus (round 1): hits 2.222 times, wounds 1.728 times and 0.576 after saves which IWND will take down to 0.242 wounds at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
** Magnus: hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222 times and 0.741 after saves which IWND will take down to 0.407 wounds at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar: hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times and 0.833 after saves which IWND will take down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn&lt;br /&gt;
** Lorgar&#039;s save is increased to 3++ against attacks from Force Weapons, giving him a mutual kill or narrowly win if he concusses Magnus in the penultimate round.&lt;br /&gt;
*** &#039;&#039;&#039;Happy psychic fun:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Magnus with Iron Arm and Warp Speed: hits 4.667 times, wounds 3.889 times, [[FAIL|0.432 after saves]] and IWND will take down to 0.099 wounds at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
*** Lorgar with Precog: hits 2.778 times, wounds 1.543 times, 0.772 times after saves and IWND will take down to 0.439 wounds at the start of the next turn&lt;br /&gt;
*** Lorgar with Precog crushes Magnus (after a long time), the rerolls to hit and wound more than makes up for Magnus&#039; aura and boosted Toughness, and [[Shield-Captain|rerollable 3++]] neuters Magnus&#039; damage. Magnus needs Iron Arm, Warp Speed &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Endurance to outlast him. Or roll Precognition himself with any Bio-blessing (although the chance he gets everything he needs and passes every test without any of them being denied is incredibly low, making it more likely Lorgar would win than not).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;TLDR version:&#039;&#039;&#039; The weakest Primarch? Maybe, if you don&#039;t consider his psychic powers. But if you do...?&lt;br /&gt;
Dirty Trick: Upgrade Lorgar to Lorgar Transfigured and give him Precognition. With this he will beat any other Primarch barring Horus (and a maxed out Angron), and even the Warmaster will be hard pressed in this fight, he can also outright cheat in this fight either by summoning Deamons to assist him (which allows him to beat everyone) or he can get possessed so a Daemon can take revenge for him when he&#039;s on his last wound. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Traitor Legion&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Word Bearers&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[Image:Post-Heresy Daemon Head.jpg|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = Verses from the Book of Lorgar&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Imperial Heralds&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = XVII&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Lorgar|Lorgar Aurelian]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Homeworld = [[Colchis]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Current Homeworld = [[Sicarus]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Champion = [[Erebus]], [[Kor Phaeron]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Mass Indoctrination, Summoning [[Daemon]]s, Cult Uprisings.&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = Legion strength&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Chaos Undivided]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Dark crimson with steel trim&lt;br /&gt;
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{{topquote|By its very nature, theology tends - and under certain conditions, must always tend - to become demonology.|Thomas Mann, Doctor Faustus}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|From the fires of betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favoured son of Chaos, all praise be given unto him. From those what would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the boon of pain, to turn the galaxy red with blood, and feed the hunger of the gods.|Excerpt from the three hundred and forty-first Book of the Epistles of Lorgar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|We are twice  armed if we fight with faith.|Plato}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Word Bearers&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &#039;&#039;&#039;Bird Wearers&#039;&#039;&#039; if they serve Tzeentch) are a legion of [[Chaos Space Marines]], sons of the [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]], and the most infamous army of zealous, violent [[Space Marine|demigods of war]] this side of the [[Eye of Terror]]. Their bloody, thunderous, bellicose fury would make the [[Black Templars]] blush if they weren&#039;t so [[Heresy|GOD DAMN HERETICAL]]. Imagine a Legion of bioengineered psychopathic Jehovah&#039;s Witness Space Marauders.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:WBPreHeresy.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Their pre-heresy colors bring a whole new meaning to the term Grey Tide.]]&lt;br /&gt;
There is a phenomenon of psychology that some people are prone to zealotry. It does not matter what they believe in, when they come to believe in something they believe in it with all their heart. This type of individual who is likely to end up becoming a fanatical member to a certain ideology will, if they somehow become disillusioned with it, often find it easier to adopt an opposing or opposite ideology and be just as fanatical to said new cause rather than simply moderating their commitment to their first ideology as needed and making caveats and exceptions to its general principles. The Word Bearers and Lorgar in particular are this phenomenon at its most extreme.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Early History===&lt;br /&gt;
The Emperor used the genetic templates of the Primarchs to create the Legiones Astartes after the powers of Chaos stole the gestating Primarchs. Those who received gene-seed from template number seventeen stood apart from their brother Astartes in duty and outlook. They fought with utter devotion and a fanatical zeal. Their original recruits were drawn from the sons of defeated enemies, raised to know the crimes of their fathers and the price of the Emperor&#039;s forgiveness. Thus while the other Legions went to war with righteousness, the XVIIth fought with the cold fury that only the condemned and redeemed could know. While other Legions took some time to acquire formal names, the XVIIth was named the Imperial Heralds almost immediately after their founding. This was due to their early role: to deliver the Emperor&#039;s ultimatum of submission or destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
Upon defeating an enemy, the Imperial Heralds would empty their libraries and records of any contents deemed heretical or sorcerous. Condemned works, individuals, and buildings would be destroyed in the name of the Imperial Truth (though they also tended to exterminate the entire population of the places they conquered; see Antarctica). The Imperial Heralds repeated this process all across Terra during the Unification Wars. This gave the Imperial Heralds a rarely-spoken nickname among the greater Imperium: the Iconoclasts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:WBHeresy.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Looks like Lorgar finally put some paint on his models.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The planet Colchis was full of people that worshiped a watered down version of chaos. Primarch XVII was adopted by Kor Phaeron, one of the chief priests, and given the name Lorgar. Lorgar received a vision of the Emperor and formed a religion around him, leading to a six-year religious civil war that Lorgar&#039;s faction eventually won, shortly before the Emperor came to Colchis. During the Great Crusade, they bore the word of the Emperor to new worlds, wiping out any traces of dissenting faiths as they assimilated cultures into the Imperial way of life, including enforcing the worship of the God-Emperor. Seriously though these guys were like the [[Black Templars]] on super-steroids, as they were at Legion strength, lacked the moderation of the Inquisition, and had their Primarch to guide them. &lt;br /&gt;
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Their thorough attention to this kept them far behind the pace of other expeditionary fleets and drew the ire of the Emperor. He repeatedly made it clear that he did not consider himself a god and wanted Lorgar to knock it off and catch up with the other fleets. Lorgar responded by penning the original Lectitio Divinitatus, which would much later form the core of the beliefs of the Temple of the Saviour Emperor. Finally, the Emperor had enough and ordered the Ultramarines to make an example of him. They torched the city of Monarchia, capital of the planet Khur and custom designed by Lorgar, and called the entire Word Bearers legion to kneel in its ashes before Guilliman, Malcador, and the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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To say Lorgar was devastated would be an understatement. He spent an entire month in seclusion, taking only the advice of Kor Phaeron and First Chaplain Erebus. They revealed to him that they had kept the old faith alive and that many worlds appeared to have religions that aligned with it, suggesting a more primal truth than worship of the God-Emperor. They convinced Lorgar that the primordial truth was truer than the Imperial Truth and he took his legion on a pilgrimage to the Eye of Terror to learn more about Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whereas the Word Bearers were the slowest to conquer planets before Monarchia, they became the fastest after. Lorgar would casually order his legion to slaughter every man, woman and child on any planet that refused to bow to Imperial rule.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Chaos===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Daemon world by majesticchicken.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Okay, so the Imperial Cult might not exactly be hot chicken wings with thousand island sauce, but worshiping Chaos might not be the best alternative.]]&lt;br /&gt;
They were the guys who used to be really, really, really loyal to the [[Emprah]]. Like, these guys used to be the Church of the Emprah. After the [[Horus Heresy]], they became the complete opposite. Now they go around fucking up the Emprah&#039;s sepulchre planets, relic worlds, and cardinal worlds, setting up cathedrals to the [[Chaos Gods]] in their places. They are also notable for being the one [[Chaos]] legion to still have [[Chaplain]]s, known as [[Dark Apostle]]s, which is probably because they invented the idea of Space Marine preachers and no other traitor Legions wanted them after the Horus Heresy was over, because there is little sense in having morale officers in a Chaos force. Unlike the other Chaos legions and renegade chapters, [[Red Corsairs]] notwithstanding, these guys actually managed to sort of keep their shit together rather than having everyone with a slightly fancier costume take his ball and go home. They&#039;re sorta like [[grimdark]] Chaos Taliban. Except the Word Bearers make the Taliban look like sissies in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their hobbies include human sacrifice, prayers to the [[Chaos Gods]], [[daemon]] summoning, and occult study. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Erebus|First Chaplain Erebus]] [[Matt Ward|(Fucked be his name)]] was actually pretty much the driving force behind Horus turning to Chaos. At the climax of &#039;&#039;Horus Rising&#039;&#039;, Erebus steals a weapon from the [[Interex]], which caused them to get all butthurt and blame [[Horus]] and the Luna Wolves for the theft. In the next book, &#039;&#039;False Gods&#039;&#039;, Horus and the merry Luna Wolves take a trip to Davin IV on Erebus&#039;s advice, during which all hell breaks loose and Horus takes some wounds and comes as close as a [[primarch]] can to a near-death experience (he basically took a nap). [[Abaddon]], having as many daddy issues as Horus, decided it&#039;d be a good idea to follow the advice of Erebus and take Horus to a local temple run by the serpent-worshiping locals, where it was said he could be healed. Erebus sent Horus into a trance and basically whispered sweet nothings about [[Chaos]] into his ear the entire time, planting the very first seed of corruption.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Word Bearers Today==&lt;br /&gt;
After 10,000 years of violence, terror, destruction, and fervent worship of the Ruinous Powers, combined with the orchestration the Horus Heresy, the Word Bearers have achieved god-tier infamy status unmatched by [[Black Legion|nearly]] ANY OTHER CHAOS WORSHIPERS. The Black Legion has proven to be a much greater threat to the Imperium overall, but the Word Bearers&#039; sheer zealous hatred for the Imperium and the Imperial Cult propels them to some truly legendary status. It truly cannot be overstated. The Word Bearers trilogy by Anthony Reynolds has some good examples, and include a Chaos Lord and his Terminator bodyguards taking on an Imperator Titan and WINNING, a Dark Apostle killing a Space Marine Captain with his bare hands, the main character summoning Daemonettes without any rituals and setting them on a Dark Eldar Archon...&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this fanaticism, however, they are the most uniform Traitor Legion by quite a lot, and one of the most organised and structured ones (Iron Warriors are more organized within their autonomous Grand Companies, but every Company is its own political entity; the Black Legion are generally only uniform during a Black Crusade; and while the Alpha Legion is capable of amazing feats its&#039; also extremely divided, maybe even more so than the other Legions).&lt;br /&gt;
As such, combined with their surprisingly understandable and HUMAN conflict during the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy, the Word Bearers function as a true brotherhood. Backstabbing is mostly minimal (which is quite of an irony considering they are led by the two biggest backstabbing cunts ever), command hierarchy is mostly respected, the Marines themselves are comrades or sometimes even FRIENDS, and great honors are given to those who fall in battle and those who rise to power. However, it is not accurate to say that they join hands and sing the gospel of love in comparison to other Legions though, as [[Grimdark|bitter rivalries can surface, the Leaders of a Grand Host can....&amp;quot;Excommunicate&amp;quot; you if they aren&#039;t a fan of your interpretations of the faith, and, in true Chaos Space Marine fashion, the strong are strongest alone.]] As for the aforementioned backstabbing cunts, Kor Phaeron and Erebus apparently cannot stand each other anymore, and have spent the last ten millennia scheming and plotting against each other while Lorgar&#039;s been on vacation. Many of the Word Bearers have lined up behind one or the other, depending on who they think is stronger/has a better vision for the legion&#039;s future, and they will openly talk shit about the one they don&#039;t like, even if they&#039;re conversing with someone who&#039;s loyal to the other guy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lorgar&#039;s also gotten off his daemonic ass and has started leading his Legion once more in a massed Jehovah&#039;s Witness March. Well, maybe; the novel &#039;&#039;Apocalypse&#039;&#039; implies that he&#039;s still on his millennia-long gap year, and that the Legion has different ideas about what will get him to come back.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the [[Ultima Founding|newly founded]] [[Covenant of Fire]] are [[Bullshit|totally]] a [[Salamanders]] successor Chapter, and not [[Belisarius Cawl]]&#039;s attempt at using leftover Word Bearers gene-seed to create [[Primaris Space Marines]]. Just ignore the identical Chapter badge, suspiciously similar colour scheme, and near-identical MO to the Imperial Heralds-era XVII Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Organization==&lt;br /&gt;
Yeah, we know what you&#039;re thinking: organization? Of a Traitor Legion? While it may surprise you, the Word Bearers still function as an organized Legion (though much looser than the Legiones Astartes). Ironically, their uttermost commitment to Chaos as a religion gives them a semblance of order (DOUBLE HERESY?) As such, they have a clearly designated hierarchy and command structure. Lorgar always remained the ultimate master of the Word Bearers but during his self-imposed silence/penance/... the Legion organized as such:&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Master of the Faith&#039;&#039;&#039;: The &#039;&#039;de jure&#039;&#039; head of the Word Bearers in Lorgar&#039;s absence, currently held by First Captain [[Kor Phaeron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Chief Dark Apostle&#039;&#039;&#039;: The head of the priesthood, and true power behind the throne of the Legion, currently held by [[Erebus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Council&#039;&#039;&#039;: A collection of Dark Apostles who oversee the overall actions of the Legion, and confirm the ascension of other Dark Apostles.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Apostle&#039;&#039;&#039;: spiritual leader of a Host, the primary organization of the Word Bearers following the Horus Heresy. Dark Apostles are confirmed by the Dark Council and in turn make the decisions of the rank and advancement for the Host.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;First Acolyte&#039;&#039;&#039;: Direct assistant to a Dark Apostle, with many having a Sith-like &amp;quot;master in need of a strong underling to get shit done&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;disciple that is powerful but who wants his master&#039;s place and more power&amp;quot; relationship.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Coryphaus&#039;&#039;&#039;: The senior military commander of a host, comparable to a [[Chapter Master]] or [[First Captain]]. The Coryphaus leads the Host&#039;s returns during religious ceremonies (and trust us, the Word Bearers have a lot of religious ceremonies) and makes all tactical decisions during actual combat, freeing up the Dark Apostle to better commune with the Chaos Gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Icon Bearers&#039;&#039;&#039;: A Word Bearer charged with carrying the Icon of the XVII Legion in battle, similar to a Company Standard Bearer in a [[Space Marine Chapter]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Champion&#039;&#039;&#039;: The leader of Word Bearer squads, know as coteries. Comparable to a Squad Captain from the Legiones Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Aspiring Champion&#039;&#039;&#039;: Another Squad leader, comparable to a [[Brother-Sergeant|Sergeant]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Anointed&#039;&#039;&#039;: The [[Terminator]]s of a Host.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Gal Vorbak&#039;&#039;&#039;: The [[Possessed Marine]]s of a Host. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Warrior-Brother&#039;&#039;&#039;: The rank and file soldiers of a host.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily Rituals==&lt;br /&gt;
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*04:00: Morning Prayer: The Word Bearers are roused from their cells to begin the day with sermons from the Book of Lorgar read by the Dark Apostle. Prayer lasts four hours, one dedicated to each of the Chaos Gods.&lt;br /&gt;
*08:00: Morning Firing Rites: The Word Bearers engage in target practice, often using human slaves captured during raids and cardboard cutouts of Ultramarines&lt;br /&gt;
*09:00: Battle Practice: The Word Bearers descend to the practice cages for training. Popular targets include captured Fire Warriors who don&#039;t even know what hand to hand combat is.&lt;br /&gt;
*12:00: Midday Meal: A light meal is prepared by the Legion Serfs. They are frugal with meals, as all intake of nonessential sustenance is considered indulgent and obstructive to enlightenment. Basically a permanent fast. &lt;br /&gt;
*12:30: Tactical Indoctrination: The Word Bearers gather for a tactical briefing, showing which planets they will be invading, and locations of cathedrals to the False Emperor which must be destroyed. Cultists who have demonstrated enough daily heretical devotion are dispatched to go door to door in Imperial neighborhoods with the Book of Lorgar, inquiring &amp;quot;Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about CHAOS?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*14:00: Evening Firing Rites: The Word Bearers gather for target practice. Popular targets include wounded Sororitas and the Fire Warriors who didn&#039;t die earlier &lt;br /&gt;
*15:00: Evening Prayer: The Word Bearers gather for the Dark Apostle to lead them in prayer. Pacts are often made during Evening Prayer, and Marines may be blessed with possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*19:00: Evening Meal: A light meal is prepared by the Legion Serfs. Sometimes the Legion Serfs are the light meal.&lt;br /&gt;
*20:00: Evening Maintenance: Word Bearers will be stripped of their [[Power Armour]] (assuming they can still remove it) for repairs to be completed. Sometimes Warrior-Brothers will see the Apothecary to check on the status of mutations.&lt;br /&gt;
*21:00: Choir Practice: The Word Bearers gather in their 100s for Choir Practice. Said Choir Practice will usually involve instruments made out of orphans and some kind of daemonically possessed organ pipes. Dark dirges and gospel-style hymns dedicated to the Ruinous Powers in dead eldritch languages are popular. Usually at the end of it sweeties are had.&lt;br /&gt;
*22:00: Flagellation: The Word Bearers flog themselves for an extra hour to prove their dedication to the Chaos gods. Those without whips may punch themselves in the face, or put their hand on their daemonically possessed stoves.&lt;br /&gt;
*23:00: Extra Prayer: The Word Bearers have another prayer. Because why not?&lt;br /&gt;
*00:00: Rest Period: The Word Bearers retire to their cells for rest.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Famous Word Bearers==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lorgar]]: Primarch of the Word Bearers, the Urizen, Chosen of Chaos, and one of the reasons why the Imperium can&#039;t have nice things. He was the first to begin worshipping the Emperor as a deity and suffered some major daddy issues when the Emperor told him to knock it off by having the Smurfs set one of the Bearers&#039; shrine cities on fire. Went on to make his crisis of faith everyone else&#039;s problem, barrelling full-tilt into Chaos worship and committing many atrocities prior to and during the Horus Heresy. Has been on a ten-millennia-long gap year since the end of the Heresy, though at one point he came out of hiding long enough to get his shit kicked in by a Warp-altered Corax.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kor Phaeron]]: Lorgar&#039;s foster father, Master of the Faith, First Captain of the Word Bearers, and colossal dickhead extraordinaire. He was a priest of the [[Chaos|dominant religion]] on Colchis and regularly beat Lorgar for talking back to him until Lorgar got too big for him to get away with it. Was too old to become a full Space Marine, so Lorgar had him made into a sort of half-Astartes so he could tag along with the Word Bearers. He repaid the favor by helping corrupt Lorgar into Chaos worship after the Emprah smacked him over the head at Monarchia. Tried corrupting Roboute Guilliman at the [[Battle of Calth]], only for Rowboat to go full [[RIP AND TEAR]] and yank one of his hearts out, causing him to run like a little bitch. He and Erebus have been fighting over leadership of the legion ever since the end of the Heresy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Erebus]]: Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers and also a colossal dickhead. He killed a kid named Erebus on Colchis, stole his identity, and became a wholehearted servant of Chaos by the time the Emperor rocked up to Colchis. He was inducted into the Word Bearers and rose to the rank of First Chaplain. This put him in position to corrupt Lorgar, Calas Typhon, and Horus and spread the warrior lodges through the other traitor legions, which turned out to be the most success he ever had. Spent the rest of the Horus Heresy getting shat on by everyone around him, including Kharn, who half-killed him for murdering Argel Tal; Lorgar, who told Kharn what Erebus had done; and Horus, who skinned his douchebag face off for yelling at him. He&#039;s been locked in a cold-ish war with Kor Phaeron for leadership of the legion since the end of the Heresy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Argel Tal]]: Captain of the 7th Assault Company of the Serrated Suns Chapter, one of the few survivors of Lorgar&#039;s road trip into the Eye of Terror, and subsequently captain of the Gal Vorbak, the first [[Possessed Marine|Possessed Marines]]. He was possibly one of the most bro-tier Marines in the galaxy, having managed to make friends with Kharn and a &#039;&#039;Custodian&#039;&#039; of all people, and seemed genuinely upset by some of the nastier things he was asked to do in service to Chaos. Was prophesied to &amp;quot;die in the shadow of great wings&amp;quot;, which he and everyone else took to mean he would die fighting Sanguinius, until Erebus pulled a sneaky and murdered him on Nuceria while standing under a gigantic aquila atop a downed Titan. Apparently this happened because Argel would have kept Kharn from going off the deep end and somehow caused the traitors to lose the war if he&#039;d lived. Goddammit Erebus.&lt;br /&gt;
*Maloq Kartho: Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers. He was present for the Battle of Calth and the subsequent Underworld War, during which he was shanked by Remus Ventanus with an athame and somehow avoided dying by ascending to daemonhood as the daemon prince M&#039;Kar. Ultimately died ten thousand years later when Ventanus&#039; ghost gave [[Uriel Ventris]] M&#039;Kar&#039;s true name and the athame he&#039;d used on him, both of which Ventris passed on to Marneus Calgar, who slew M&#039;Kar once and for all.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Anchorite]]: A Word Bearer of unknown name and origin who initially followed his legion and primarch into Chaos worship, only to become disillusioned with all of them at Calth, when he realized that the Word Bearers were only perpetuating an endless cycle of vengeance that would accomplish nothing. He surrendered to the Ultramarines and was spared by Guilliman, who later sent him to be imprisoned on Terra. He returned to worshipping the Emperor while locked up and helped promulgate the Lectitio Divinitatus. Attempted suicide at some point out of guilt over his actions and was interred in a Contemptor Dreadnought and kept hidden on the cardinal world of Almace until a Word Bearer fleet turned up to try and &amp;quot;liberate&amp;quot; him some time after the Cicatrix Maledictum opened. [[Awesome|He promptly manifested the powers of a Living Saint and kicked the holy shit out of his erstwhile brethren]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Barthusa Narek: Word Bearer who remained loyal to the Emperor and turned on his own legion, planning to assassinate Lorgar for damning the Word Bearers with Chaos worship. Was arrested for apparently killing Vulkan on Macragge, but later got busted out by a Knight-Errant who tried to mind-wipe him. He killed the guy and absorbed some of his memories, which gave him a temporary identity crisis. Was later recruited by [[Eldrad]] to help wipe out the Cabal, and once that job was done he rejoined the Word Bearers so he could take his shot at Lorgar. Whatever became of him remains unknown, though he obviously didn&#039;t succeed in offing his pops.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zardu Layak]]: Dark Apostle and captain of the Unspeaking Chapter who pledged never to let anyone but the Chaos gods see his face and walked around with an entourage of warriors enslaved by their own daemonic swords. Rose through the ranks to become one of Horus&#039; closest confidants by the end of the Heresy and brought his 5,000 Word Bearers along for the Siege of Terra after Lorgar tried to teamkill Horus and was promptly booted out. Died fighting Rogal Dorn at the Lion&#039;s Gate and exploded into a portal that let daemons manifest on Terra for the first time. &lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Dawn of War|Dark Crusade,]] the Dark Apostle [[Eliphas]] leads a warband of Word Bearers to take over Kronus. [[Awesome]] ensues.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the videogame [[Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate]], an ENTIRE Word Bearers ARMY OF 10,000 MARINES is lead by the Chaos LORD Zymran, who is the main antagonist of the game. Apart from sounding MANLY, he does nothing but taunt the Ultramarines like a saturday morning cartoon villain (&#039;&#039;Seriously all he needs is that large mustache to twirl and he&#039;ll be as contrived as the [[Abbadon|Warmaster]] himself&#039;&#039;). Ultimately somewhat forgettable. &lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s also a guy named Marduk from the book series, that shows how one can get shit done despite being a villain and how to do proper [[just as planned]] [[Tzeentch|out-plotting your rivals by factoring their plots into your own]]. Sadly for Marduk, he is being completely overshadowed in awesomeness in his own books by his terminator Coryphaus, Kol Badar, who for instance takes an Imperator Titan out by entombing himself and his squad just next to where it&#039;ll be forced to pass, revive just in time to hop aboard the leg bastion and then storming in and slaughtering the whole crew. And that&#039;s just in the first book. &lt;br /&gt;
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Amongst [[/tg/]], the most famous Word Bearer would be [[Dranon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Horus Heresy]] is one of the biggest events in the [[Warhammer 40,000]] story. Naturally, people like dreaming up alternate scenarios.  Page still being expanded.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In-Universe Alternate Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
In Lorgar&#039;s visions with Ingerthal the daemon he gets shown alternate futures in which he stabs Sanguinius and then gets executed by Horus &amp;quot;for his sins&amp;quot;, and another one in which he gets taken out by Curze and Russ working together &amp;quot;for defying the [[Emperor|Anathema]].&amp;quot; He also gets instructed by [[Kairos Fateweaver]] to avoid at any costs a duel to the death with Corax lest he get his shit pushed in. These are explained as &amp;quot;possible futures&amp;quot; which did not come to pass; in each case it would seem that Lorgar is still the First Heretic, but the arrangement of loyal primarchs is different. Notably, in the actual events that ended up playing out, someone who is not Chaos switched the Khan and Fulgrim&#039;s fates.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Dornian Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/heresy/thedornianheresy.pdf Dornian Heresy]&#039;&#039;&#039; was the 40K web forum Bolter &amp;amp; Chainsword&#039;s project to switch the allegiances of the various Primarchs during the Heresy, and explore what would have happened to the Legions under their command if they had fallen or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike the following scenarios, which were largely thought exercises in random threads on /tg/, this was a full project, with accompanying [[Index Astartes]] articles and quite a bit of fluff, which can still be found quite easily.&lt;br /&gt;
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Essentially, during the incident on Davin, [[Magnus the Red]] actually arrives to visit and exorcise the infection on [[Horus]] instead of relying on [[Erebus]]&#039; rituals. While successful at both saving the warmaster&#039;s life and preventing him from becoming corrupted, it did leave him out of commission. Following their temper tantrum, the Chaos Gods decided that the next best choice was [[Rogal Dorn]], who had been going on overdrive with his pet pain glove.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the end, the [[Space Wolves]] fell to [[Khorne]] as part of their rabid psyker-hate. The [[Blood Angels]] fell to [[Nurgle]] in an event almost identical to the canon Death Guard, plus the bit where they practically owed their lives to Nurgle like Magnus canonically did to Tzeentch and now forced to recruit mutants to their cause. The [[White Scars]] fell to [[Slaanesh]] because Khan got drunk off his vanity and ego while sending his loyal sons to die on Chogoris. The [[Raven Guard]] fell to [[Tzeentch]], Corax himself being fed haunting visions of the future by Tzeentch. The [[Salamanders]] fell to [[Malal]] out of total disillusionment with the Imperium, and [[Rogal Dorn]] himself became the arch-traitor, with his [[Imperial Fists]] supporting [[Chaos Undivided]] (renaming themselves the [[Black Legion]] after the failure of the Heresy). The [[Ultramarines]] did not fall to [[Chaos]], but instead became [[Reasonable Marines]]; they seceded from the [[Imperium]] alongside much of the Ultima Segmentum, and now exemplify progress while fighting off the [[Tau]]. The [[Iron Hands]] seem to have gotten mixed up with the [[Necrons]], while the [[Fallen Angels]] won out over the loyalist [[Dark Angels]], with Luther triumphant.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the Imperial side, the [[Word Bearers]] became the [[Ecclesiarchy]] (with no [[Kor Phaeron]] to twist it all to heresy - he proved incompatible with the gene-implants), the [[Iron Warriors]] remained siege masters, the [[Sons of Horus]] became the crusading [[Black Templars]] (after almost identically disowning Horus&#039; foolishness which led to the Emperor being mortally wounded), the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] remained exemplary perfectionists (except for [[Fabius Bile]], but he&#039;s dead now... except not), the [[Thousand Sons]] became blind psychic warriors (see: [[Grey Knights]]), the [[Death Guard]] became the core of the [[Inquisition]], the [[World Eaters]] became serious instead of angry, the [[Night Lords]] remained loyal [[Scary Marines]] without going over the edge, and the [[Alpha Legion]] were just as sneaky and just as anti-[[Ultramarine]], but still loyal (apparently [[The Cabal]] wasn&#039;t that convincing in the Dornian Heresy).&lt;br /&gt;
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How the Space Marines are organized is also flipped, as the legions falling to Chaos occurred because of them being separated by all sorts of circumstances, so Abaddon (who takes over as leader of the Imperium after the Emperor&#039;s battle with Dorn) organized the legions into a few giant armies (by Space Marine standards).&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s pretty [[awesome]]...except that, as most alternate heresies are wont to, it all amounts to some absurd amounts of marine-wank. Perhaps the most particular is the Reign of Blood, where the [[Sisters of Battle]] never existed, because they were wiped out by the [[Word Bearers]] when they were still the Brides of the [[Emperor]], and [[Goge Vandire]] (who was now the new Chapter Master following Lorgar becoming a martyr post-heresy) wasn&#039;t overthrown by some simple preacher, but by a novice marine named [[Sebastian Thor]]. To be fair, can you really imagine the Word Bearers not recruiting him? Meanwhile, all of the xenos factions are left to mere footnotes or mentions (just as [[Games Workshop]] intended) and the impact this has had on the Imperium at large is left to interpretation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Imperial Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &#039;&#039;&#039;[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/16830576/ Imperial Heresy]&#039;&#039;&#039;, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] decided &amp;quot;if you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em&amp;quot; and sided with the [[Gods of Chaos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Eldar Gambit==&lt;br /&gt;
In the &#039;&#039;&#039;[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/14094031/ Eldar Gambit]&#039;&#039;&#039;, [[Eldrad]] meets the Emprah the day before the final assault on the Vengeful Spirit, offering assistance in exchange for closer [[Eldar]] - [[Human]] cooperation later.&lt;br /&gt;
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The basis of the pact is that instead of taking the mortal blow that Horus throws at him on accident, he does it deliberately, and uses the energy of his own death to attack the Chaos Gods directly, specifically Slaanesh. He steals the stomach of Slaanesh and incorporates it into himself, so now all Eldar souls will go directly to him when they die, keeping them safe from the depredations of Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
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The thread was mostly speculation on how a united Imperium of Man and Eldar Empire would work together... and it&#039;s actually pretty awesome. Ollanius Pius being revered by guardsmen as an Avatar of Khaine [[Awesome| and killing Horus right after Horus defeated the Emperor]] (&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;albeit he was weakened from fighting the Emperor&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; he&#039;s a motherfucking Primarch jointly possessed by all Four of the Chaos Gods, there is no &amp;quot;albeit&amp;quot; about it), Space Marines with soulstones to keep the forces of Chaos away from loyal marines, a fractured Adeptus Mechanicus (with four factions - Traitor, Loyal, Machine God fanatics and Fundamentalist (doesn&#039;t use Eldar tech that is now more freely available)), and more.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Hektor Heresy, AKA the /tg/ Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
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/tg/ Creates an Alternate Universe of 40K Astartes legions and discusses how the heresy would play out between them. Since then it has spiralled into a near-total overhaul of the 40K universe as a whole.  Although there are variations in quality and completion, the project feature original art and write-ups for the new primarchs and their legions, original regiments of the Imperial Army, a new take on the Squat, and other warhammerania.&lt;br /&gt;
For those interested in the origins of the project: Archived /tg/ threads can be found at http://archive.moe/tg/thread/34414189/ (Initial Legion creation) and http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/34432982/ (Alternate Heresy thread)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Imperium Asunder, AKA the /tg/ Heresy II: Electric Boogaloo==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet another alternate Heresy with all-new Primarchs, only one where the Emperor is outright killed and Chaos consumes half the Galaxy, while the Loyalists fracture into a number of warring empires on the Eastern Fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warmasters Triumvirate, AKA the /tg/ Heresy III: Reloaded==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Warmasters Triumvirate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A third alternate Heresy with new Primarchs. After the Emperor is incapacitated relatively early on, he leaves three of his sons in charge of the Great Crusade, the Warmasters Triumvirate. When more power is given to the Council of Terra and regular humans, tensions begin to rise. This one has 21 Space Marine legions, pitted against each other in a three way Brotherwar between the Imperial Loyalists, Chaos Traitors and Confederated Seperatists.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Roboutian Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
The true heresy has begun: Papa Smurf takes the place of Horus and fucks over the Imperium. Much shedding of blood, sweat and tears ensues, with generous helpings of manliness on the side. It&#039;s pretty [[awesome]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspired by the above mentioned Dornian Heresy, circumstances happen that lead to the Primarchs who turned traitor in canon to stay loyal and the loyalists to turn traitor. For this Heresy&#039;s loyalists this ranges from having a small point that causes a major divergent in their lives, like Konrad and Angron, to having completely different lives like Lorgar. The Traitors all at a certain point have a moment that led them towards Chaos, some better done than others, even the fic&#039;s writer admits El&#039;Jonhson&#039;s could have been done better, but the rest bring much tragedy and sorrow, except Vulkan who is this timeline&#039;s [[Nagash]]. Even then, Vulkan&#039;s moment of divergence is absolutely horrifying and the only reason it isn&#039;t sad is because how awful Vulkan is in this timeline. However, even Vulkan&#039;s horrors pale in comparison to that of Corvus Corax.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the traitors, Vulkan was raised- then killed by, a female [[Dragon|fire drake]], causing him to realize his immortality early on and gain a god-complex. This wish came true when he, hating the 4 chaos gods but believing SO HARD in his own superiority, actually [[Awesome|turned himself into the chaos god of greed and pride!]] I.e., a giant chaos version of [[The Hobbit|Smaug]]. Rogal Dorn fell to [[Khorne]] due to a massive ork fleet almost destroying the Inquit System and destroying the Phalanx, leading to him never using his [[TTS|magic pain glove]] to temper his anger. Lion El&#039;Jonson spent too long in the warp-tainted wilds of Caliban and became corrupted by [[Tzeentch]]. Sanguinius grew up with an even greater fear of mutants and deviation, causing enough doubts and fear that, when [[Slaanesh]] came knocking, he gave himself and his legion up willingly. They then turned into full-on horny space-[[vampire]]s who get off on drinking blood. For being the archtraitor, Rowboat himself had a pretty lazy bog-standard &amp;quot;hometown and parents were destroyed and became more brutal because of it&amp;quot; backstory. Jaghatai grew up with chaos worshippers and Russ lost his pet wolves, Geri and Freki, while executing the [[Lost legions]]. Ferrus became an utter social darwinist and got infected by [[Nurgle]] when he tried to blow up a daemon world. Then there&#039;s Corvus Corax, who was in the care of the mad scientists of Kiavahr and, seeing his immense scientific potential, proceeded to [[Grimdark|slice him up, poison him, disembowl him, tear off and reattach his limbs, and countless other horrific tortures]] in the name of &#039;science.&#039; It only gets worse, as he himself became a mad scientist, created horrific astartes clones called &#039;&#039;Spawn Marines,&#039;&#039; and became an avatar of a previously unknown chaos god of emptiness and the void (Malal?)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the loyalists, Konrad had a loving mother who helped develop his moral compass into less of a Punisher and more like Batman. When Horus first met his father, their meeting was more cordial and he saw that Big E was just a tired, old man who wanted the best for humanity, under all the glitz and glamour. Magnus fought a titanic psychneuein on Prospero, learning to use his muscles instead of his powers when the creature was immune. When Tzeentch offered to save his sons from the Flesh Change, Magnus said no and basically cured it himself. Now much more cautious, he sent [[Ahriman]] to help Horus during the crusade, allowing them to heal Horus and thus the Warmaster never fell. Peturabo, as new Preatorian of Terra, performed a far better job than Dorn did in the Horus Heresy, making a stellar defense for Terra and even [[Reasonable Marines|constructing huge rings of planetary fortresses around the Eye of Terror and Ruinstorm to keep chaos caged up]] after the Heresy, called the Iron Cages. By killing his Witchlord foster father, Mortarion learned how to [[get shit done]] as he took up the role as Big E&#039;s executioner, killing/banishing both Jaghatai and Vulkan singlehandedly before his demise in two separate moments of [[Awesome]]. Lorgar and Angron had loving parents and used their psychic charisma to lead revolts against their cruel planetary governments, with Angron never getting the Butcher&#039;s Nails, and Lorgar slaying [[Kor Phaeron]] when he saw the horrors the cults of chaos were capable of. Fulgrim having a few librarians with him meant he never took up the daemon sword of Slaanesh... buuuut the [[Eldar]] didn&#039;t know that, so [[Eldrad]] convinced the Dark Eldar to kidnap him and subjected him to [[grimdark|decades of disgustingly extreme torture]] so Slaanesh couldn&#039;t have him, on the pretense of a faulty prophecy. &#039;&#039;&#039;Thanks Eldrad!&#039;&#039;&#039; Finally, Alpharius Omegon had their pragmatic and ruthless ways tempered by Konrad, so they turned out to be one of the single most valuable chapters of astartes the Imperium has. The Alpha Legion also became buddies with the [[Rogue Traders]], which is pretty cool. &lt;br /&gt;
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[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-roboutian-heresy-a-warhammer-40k-alternate-universe.440554/ Can be read here (also contains sidestories and word of god)].&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/if-the-emperor-watched-tts-extras-thread.508247/page-2#post-33704905 Can also be read here] (see threadmarks) for reactions from the primarchs and the Emperor himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Warhammer High]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Technically an Alternate Heresy, as in there was no Heresy at all and the Emperor decided Malcador&#039;s ideas were not stupid after all and made 19 female Primarch children to give the Primarchs some responsibility Post-Great Crusade, something to live for, a chance for family, and because he really wanted Grandkids.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Imperium Ascendant==&lt;br /&gt;
The Most Fuck-Ass Awesome Timeline: The Legion of the Damned are sent back in time by the Throne-Emperor to stop the scattering of the Primarchs by Argel Tal. After they succeed, the Emperor of the past looks upon the future that is the galaxy of 40K and vows to ensure that such a nightmare will not come to pass as the Ascendant Imperium strikes out against the darkness. In short, The Emperor learns where the Canon timeline will lead, and decides to take corrective measures.&lt;br /&gt;
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The original author got depressed by the chaotic corruption of GW and didn&#039;t feel like continuing and handed the project over to another writer. First part [https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/imperium-ascendant-heresy-less-40k.596194/ here], and the second [https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/imperium-ascendant-redux-a-continuation-of-a-heresy-less-40k.968339/ here].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Brotherhood of the Lost==&lt;br /&gt;
The Icarion Insurrection = First AU created by Brotherhood of the Lost, started on Bolter &amp;amp; Chainsword, with the starting question being: &amp;quot;What if the canon legions were replaced by lost legion projects?&amp;quot; A three-way war between the loyalists, insurrectionists, and the smaller suzerainty, lasting for decades. [http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forum/103-brotherhood-of-the-lost/ Sub-forum can be found here], [http://botl.wikia.com/wiki/The_Brotherhood_of_the_Lost_Wiki and a wiki here]. This AU has since been discontinued and the writers split into the following two new AU&#039;s; The Five Ruins and The Broken Throne&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Five Ruins==&lt;br /&gt;
The newest project from the Brotherhood of the Lost combining old talent with new blood and legions, the Five Ruins project is set in an ever-escalating conflict caused by the disappearance of the Emperor on His way to Ullanor. 18 new legions and Primarchs who are left to pick up the pieces as the galaxy trembles in anticipation of the horrors to come. A compromise situation is reached, a High Regent appointed, but in the process fundamental differences between certain Primarchs or parts of the Imperium develop that are exploited by the forces of Chaos. The Imperium slowly devolves into a husk of its former self as legions fall to Chaos or lead a breakaway Separatist movement, the Galaxy divided and the fate of Humanity uncertain.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forum/103-brotherhood-of-the-lost/ Sub-forum can be found here], [https://the-five-ruins.fandom.com/wiki/The_Five_Ruins_Wiki and a wiki here].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Broken Throne==&lt;br /&gt;
Founded after a certain difference of opinion in the Brotherhood of the Lost project led to the demise of the Icarion Insurrection and a bunch of the creators walked out and took their Legions with them. Warmaster Yucahu of the Void Eagles has been assassinated, the Emperor has disappeared amidst chaos at the heart of the Palace, and the new Lord Regent Kozja of the Warbringers must to pick up the pieces whilst faced with an increasingly violent opposition from other Primarchs. Meanwhile, Ixiplatlan of the Eagle Warriors pulls strings from behind the scenes to incite civil war and spread the reach of the Primordial Annhilator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once everybody&#039;s figured out which side of this Machiavellian mess they&#039;re actually on, the Loyalists must launch an attempt to retake Terra and disrupt Ixipatian&#039;s ritual. In the aftermath of the climactic battle warp storms ravage the galaxy, and the Imperium fragments into hundreds of factions striving for their survival.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://w40k-broken-throne.fandom.com/wiki/A_Broken_Throne_Wiki&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forum/290-a-broken-throne/&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Nobledark Imperium]]==&lt;br /&gt;
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Probably one of the more divergent Alternate Heresies out there. Like [[Warhammer High]] technically an Alternate Heresy despite there not being a heresy at all. Nobledark is as much a retelling of the 40k universe with intentional twists as it is a straight alternate timeline, sort of like [[Hektor Heresy]] or [[Imperium Asunder]], though in general all parties receive a buff to reason and common sense, as you would expect from a universe that is [[Noblebright|nobledark]] as opposed to [[grimdark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Instead of earning the ever-lasting hatred of the Chaos gods by doing {{[[Alpha Legion|REDACTED]]}} that led to the creation of the [[primarch]]s (who in this timeline are the Emperor&#039;s greatest, though otherwise similar to canon in name and deed), in this timeline the [[Emperor]] plotted with [[Eldrad]] and agreed to &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Lord of the Rings|a last alliance of elves and men]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; a team-up between the nascent [[Imperium]] and the [[Craftworld Eldar|Eldar]] to free [[Isha]] from [[Nurgle]]’s garden to weaken the [[Chaos Gods]] in exchange for access to the [[Webway]] and anti-Chaos lore.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Imperium and Eldar expect to go their separate ways after the Raid on Nurgle&#039;s Mansion, until Chaos decides to supercharge the [[War of the Beast]] in order to show those mortals what happens when you steal fire from the gods. The Chaos Gods don&#039;t manage to turn any primarch (though they get really close with Horus), the Emperor having told the primarchs what Chaos what it is and why it is important to &#039;&#039;not touch it&#039;&#039; beforehand. Humanity and Eldar are forced into an alliance once again, resulting in an Aesir-Vanir-esque political marriage between the Emperor and Isha. Although things are bad with the biggest green tide the Imperium has ever seen and [[Luther]] convincing the majority of [[Dark Angels]] to go traitor, they only gets worse when the true mortal catspaws are revealed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Because that buff to competence and common sense? [[Chaos]] gets it too. And in a spectacular display of long-term planning, instead of consuming ALL of the pleasure cult-worshipping eldar in the Eye upon their birth, [[Slaanesh]] only consumed MOST of them. So now in addition to daemons, orks, and traitors, you have an entire army of insane, Chaos-worshipping fair folk who just declared holy war on the [[Imperium]] and their [[heresy|heretic]] [[Eldar|kin]].&lt;br /&gt;
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And it all kind of spirals out from there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Can also be found at [[Nobledark Imperium Drafts]], the other main page for the project.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Shattered Imperium==&lt;br /&gt;
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The canon legions fracture into more than two factions. Imperial Fists, Raven Guard, Salamanders, and Blood Angels remain loyal to Emps. Sons of Horus, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion, and White Scars go Chaos. Thousand Sons, Iron Hands, and Emperor&#039;s Children go [[transhumanist]]. Death Guard, World Eaters, Night Lords, and Iron Warriors go egalitarian. And finally the Ultramarines, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves go independant of everyone. &lt;br /&gt;
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==MidHammer==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|MidHammer 40,000}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The setting that tries to find a balance between the grim darkness of the original Warhammer and [[Setting:Brighthammer 40,000|BrightHammer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Vulkanite Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
A less-grim, less-dark, but still solidly grimdark timeline. Vulkan can&#039;t stomach the purges of the Lost Primarchs and goes renegade. Eventually this makes him easy prey for Lorgar and Tzeentch, and Chaos gets a Heresy War. Featuring a mix of canon loyalists and traitors in the heretic faction, more renegades and semi-traitors (Oh, Hi Malal), and a decompressed timeline of events. Indexes Astartes are viewable on [https://archiveofourown.org/works/20434316/chapters/48479066 Ao3] and [https://www.reddit.com/r/VulkaniteHeresy/ reddit], with some older material about the primarchs also on reddit. That will eventually be superseded by &#039;&#039;Biographica Primagenesis&#039;&#039; entries for them, and some Xenos entries, particularly for changes wreaked on the Eldar, will be inbound, but that will all be after the Index Astartes are finished. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Legions Reborn==&lt;br /&gt;
New legions and Primarchs to lead them, not dissimiliar to the Hektor Heresy above. [https://thelegionsreborn.fandom.com/wiki/The_Legions_Reborn_Wiki Wiki can be found here].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Sanguinary Schism==&lt;br /&gt;
A fan heresy with Sanguinus as the traitor warmaster. No wiki yet cause the admin is tech illiterate  https://www.facebook.com/SanguinarySchism/&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also another version of the Sanguinary Heresy, [https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12957151/9/The-Sanguinary-Heresy here]&lt;br /&gt;
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==If the Emperor Watched [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to mysterious warp nonsense, the canon timeline just after the triumph of Ullanor when all the Primarchs minus Alpharius Omegon (who arrive later) were together receives the TTS videos and other Lexicanum, 40k Wiki, Codex and 1d4chan information in the form of videos and text files. The Emperor and the Primarchs (minus the twins who as stated arrive later and the lost two who were already purged) watch them to great hilarity. The main thread is on Spacebattles [https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/if-the-emperor-watched-the-text-to-speech-device.408752/ in this thread], while side stories and reactions to fanfiction, homebrews and other files like the wiki articles and the alternate heresies are on [https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/if-the-emperor-watched-tts-extras-thread.508247/ this thread]. The Extras thread got locked by mods and the main thread is locked due to hiatus so things have moved to SufficientVelocity in [https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/the-emperor-and-primarch-react-to-tts-and-pretty-much-everything-ever.89548/ this thread].&lt;br /&gt;
Main story is written by Praetor98 and sidestories of the main thread and all of the extras thread is made by readers.&lt;br /&gt;
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==[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12600333/1/The-Cyclopean-Heresy The Cyclopean Heresy]==&lt;br /&gt;
What if Magnus the Red was the Arch-Traitor? The arrangement of Loyalist and Traitor Primarchs are completely different, with Mortarion of the Death Guard becoming Warmaster of the Imperium during the Heresy, replacing Horus who was stripped of that title when he went traitor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Everqueen==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Isha]] manages to avoid being captured by Nurgle and being devoured by Slaanesh, and ends up incarnating to Terra during the Unification Wars. Big E finds her and decides to imprison her and make her his servant as she would very useful to his plans. Author has stated that no, the two will not have a romance between them. Can be read [https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/everqueen-warhammer-40-000.881555/ here].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = White Scars&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[file:Whitescarslogo.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Khan and the Emperor!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = V&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Star Hunters&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Dark Hunters]], [[Destroyers]], [[Iron Talons]], [[Mantis Warriors]], [[Marauders]], [[Rampagers]], [[Storm Lords]], [[Storm Reapers]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = Jubal Khan&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Jaghatai Khan]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Chogoris]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Fast attack units, bikes, and Librarians&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = 1,000&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium of Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = White and red&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.|The Mighty Genghis Khaan, as quoted in the Jami-al-Tawarikh of Rashid Al-Din Tabib}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|He carried the &#039;&#039;sulde&#039;&#039; for the sake of his kinsmen. He plunged into battle with the dogs. &amp;quot;I will massacre them all,&amp;quot; he said, &amp;quot;and take back my horses.|Manas-e-Destani, the epic saga of Kyrgyzstan}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|What is of the greatest importance in war is extraordinary speed: one cannot afford to neglect opportunity.|Sun Tzu}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;White Scars&#039;&#039;&#039; (although to themselves, they are named the &amp;quot;Horde of Jaghatai&amp;quot;) are a [[Chapter]] of [[Space Marines]] that are basically [[Mongols]] in [[Power Armor]] and on bikes, in contrast to the Space Vikings of the [[Space Wolves]] and Space Vampires of the [[Blood Angels]]. Their [[Primarch]] is known as [[Jaghatai Khan]]. Their requisite one-trick-pony is hit-and-run attacks, which they do on those sweet bikes of theirs. They are specifically a mixture of Mongols and Tatars, with very strong Chinese influence (think Yuan dynasty) and a few sparingly-used sprinkles of Japan. Due largely to [[Chris Wraight]]&#039;s and the [[Black Library]] cover artists&#039; attempts to be respectful to these cultures, this leaves them surprisingly aesthetically diverse - the White Scars recruit from a collection of heterogenous tribes rather than a single unified culture, meaning their depicted hairstyles and armour customisations can come from pretty much anywhere in and any historical period of East Asia in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the meta, they&#039;ve probably benefited the most from the Horus Heresy, with Chris Wraight finally building them beyond the very basics of their fluff and keeping them well away from the derpery which has often afflicted other Legions. Even their cameos in other Legions&#039; stories have been badass.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZfEh3EciU&amp;amp;ab_channel=EAStarWars This is their themesong]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmI3vAIhbE Or this if you&#039;d rather mock than admire].  Though really, Wolf Totem by The Hu is their true theme song.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Unification Wars, the Vth legion served as the eyes and ears of the unifiers. They were the scouts of big E, who sought out anyone who dared oppose Him. They traveled through the devastated landscape of Terra, often in small groups of a few dozen, looking for any enemies or foes in the wasteland. When the unification of Terra ended, the Emperor split the Vth legion into pioneer companies of several hundred marines to scout the frontier. These pioneer companies were all related by gene seed, but were otherwise independent divisions. The pioneer companies would always travel far ahead of the main expeditions, following warp currents to places unknown. &lt;br /&gt;
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This behavior was also the origin of the legion&#039;s preference for hit and run tactics. Since the pioneer companies were almost always fighting against foes that outnumbered them, it was pretty much the only option for them. They would perform raids and surprise attacks on the enemy, learning the strategies and tactics of the enemy, and then pass on what they learned to other expedition. Though some like Horus appreciated them, (he was especially fond of the pioneer company that discovered his homeworld, and was amused that the captain reported that &amp;quot;it was a nest of serpents coiling in the dark that we would be better to destroy&amp;quot;) the Vth legion&#039;s battles were seldom given attention, though none of the &amp;quot;legion&amp;quot; were especially upset over this, and they kept to themselves anyway. &lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, Jaghatai was found (ironically, by the Luna Wolves instead of the pioneer companies). Unifying his &amp;quot;legion&amp;quot; was not an easy task, as the pioneer companies had fought indepedently for so long that even other members of the Vth were seen as outsiders. When all the legionnaires had come to Chogoris (this process took nearly a decade), the Khan made all present undergo a Chogorian ritual, which involved first scarification, and then choosing a new name. To further solidify the bonds between members, Jaghatai and his men participated in the age old Spehss Mehreen bonding exercise of killing Orks. The Khan deployed his men such that the initiated Chogorians would fight alongside the Terrans, and that the warriors would have to rely on others to defeat the foes. A tenth of the legion died in the battle, but the remaining came out as a unified legion for perhaps the first time in their history.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
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When Horus flipped out and started having his little tantrum, the White Scars were on the far side of nowhere from the rest of the Imperium, having a grand old time killing Orks on Chondax. Because of this, they had no idea what was going on until they started to receive contradictory messages from both sides. Horus sent them a message claiming that the Space Wolves had turned traitor and fragged Prospero, while Rogal Dorn told them that &#039;&#039;Horus&#039;&#039; was the traitor and recalled them to Terra. Just to make things more complicated, the Alpha Legion showed up unexpectedly and set up a blockade of the Chondax system, and then they also received a distress call from the Wolves, who were getting pummeled by the Alpha Legion at the Alaxxes Nebula. Jaghatai considered all this, then decided to go figure out what was going on for himself. The Scars blew past the Alpha Legion fleet with their superior speed, told the Wolves to have a nice winter, and took off for Prospero. There, the Khan discovered a shard of [[Magnus]] that had been left behind after [[Burning of Prospero|the furries&#039; outing.]] The shard explained that both sides were correct, from a certain point of view: Russ and the Wolves had indeed blown Prospero to hell, but Magnus had sort of brought it on himself, and Horus and his allies were the real traitors. At this point, [[Mortarion]] turned up with a Death Guard fleet, hoping to recruit Jaghatai for Team Horus. The Khan laughed in his face, pointed out that Morty had chosen the side which stood for everything he hated, and dueled him for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
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While all this was going on, some of the Terran White Scars were trying to force the legion to declare for Horus (ironic as in the traitor legions the loyalists were mostly the Terrans); they almost succeeded, but one of the legion&#039;s mortal officers was able to teleport the Khan back up to his flagship. He revealed what he&#039;d learned to the Scars, and the pro-Horus faction surrendered. Some were executed, while the rest were formed into suicide squads called the Sagyar Mazan and sent out to kill traitors until they died themselves. The Khan opted to go fight a guerrilla war against the Traitor Legions, though not before swearing that he would return to Terra when needed. The Scars actually did a fairly good job of tying up Horus&#039; forces for a while, but after four years of relentless attritional warfare, they realized it was time to head for Terra before they were cut off and destroyed. The legion rallied at the Catallus [[Warp Rift]], where they found a Webway portal controlled by a device called the Dark Glass. While they were studying the Dark Glass, the Death Guard caught up with them, once again led by Mortarion, [[RAGE|who was starting to take things personally]]. In the end, though Jaghatai wished to make a last stand against the traitors, his Chief [[Librarian|Stormseer]] [http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Targutai_Yesugei|Targutai Yesugei] used the Dark Glass to open a Webway portal to Terra, and Jaghatai and the legion took their chance. The last of the Sagyar Mazan squads remained behind to delay the Death Guard, and &#039;&#039;nearly&#039;&#039; got Mortarion killed on the Khan&#039;s flagship by holding him there until the ship&#039;s reactor exploded.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Scars were one of the three loyalist legions that fought in the [[Siege of Terra]], alongside the Imperial Fists and the Blood Angels. We don&#039;t know much about their role in the battle yet, except that they recaptured an important spaceport so that loyalist reinforcements could be brought in, [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|and that the Khan apparently spent at least part of the siege commanding his legion from atop a Razorback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Memes aside, the White Scars counterattacked traitor forces at the Lion&#039;s Gate Spaceport. The attack was led by Jaghatai Khan himself, who will duel and banish his daemon primarch brother Mortarion through decapitation. The victory came at the cost of the Khan&#039;s life, but his body was rescued and sent to Malcador, so he can eventualy get lost in the webway.&lt;br /&gt;
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===M41===&lt;br /&gt;
When the [[Great Rift]] opened near Chogoris, the [[Red Corsairs]] invaded the sector,  leaving behind corruption and is currently entrenched in the sector. The White Scars fought off the Red Corsairs, several Warbands, and daemons beside the united tribals.  That&#039;s right, [[Awesome|the White Scars pretty much &#039;&#039;on their own&#039;&#039; beat back a force that could be capable of challenging Abbadon&#039;s own Black Legion and his allied Warbands]].  The current chapter master Jubal was injured but still leads from the infirmary.  He was tortured beyond the Imperium&#039;s ability to repair but remains sane, keen, and awake.  He now leads the Chapter remotely, seeing through outriders and giving orders on a segmentum scale.  If anything, his skills have increased as he now can devote his attention fully to commanding his men and leaving the rest to his subordinates.  Not to mention whatever devices they probably hooked his brain up to.  I mean, it would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Organization==&lt;br /&gt;
They are known for their sweet mustaches and the Scars they make on their faces upon induction into the Chapter. They are &#039;&#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039;&#039; known for the Scars they make on the enemies of the Emprah&#039;s faces &#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039; induction into the Chapter. Which is introduced into the chapter after Jaghatai was reunited with the 5th Legion, (i.e. his legion) as he had recently united the fierce tribes of the Talksar tribesmen. Never mind that many Talksar did join the legion due to their loyalty to Jaghatai. Also, they only recruit from Jaghatai&#039;s adopted homeworld: Mundus Planus (known as Chogoris to the natives). Up until the Horus Heresy, there was a mix of Terran and Chogorian legionaries, and quite likely many legionaries from other diverse planets across galaxy prior to their reunion with Jaghatai.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:3d0a524229f9c180bcf4689948e874e6.jpg|thumb|600px|left|For those of us who want to play barbarous Marines without [[Space Wolves|being a furry]] or [[Chaos Space Marine|worshipping Satan]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And of course the whole biker thing makes slower moving tanks and troops (like Devastators) rare; in their place they have a large amount of drop pods, Land Speeders and Rhinos. Plus bikes, lots and lots of bikes. Space bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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They have an incredibly deep, abiding rivalry with the [[Raven Guard]] because of their conflicting general tactical doctrines - according to Deathwatch, a failure to cooperate in an old war campaign destroyed any chances of fostering ties they might&#039;ve had. While the Raven Guard prefers to lie in wait and plan out their attacks down to the letter to ensure the most efficient results are achieved when they finally start their attacks, the White Scars pretty much does the opposite and just rush in chainswords drawn, using their fast-attack specialty to overwhelm their opponents with sheer speed and force. Despite the animosity, the two forces have fought alongside one another on multiple occasions, and it&#039;s worth noting it&#039;s more of a competitive rivalry in any case. Plus lately the Ravens rode shotgun on a Great Hunt, which made for a great bonding exercise. &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their savage image, much like their main inspiration, they&#039;re actually one of the most cultured legions (and by far one of the best-groomed) in the current Imperium, with aspirants having to take up pursuits like poetry, painting and calligraphy (often about their battles), and wearing silks in their downtime. As a result, they don&#039;t like hanging around with the [[Space Wolves|mad drunk Vikings who treat the whole barbarian thing like a badge of honour]]. The only cultural traits they share are hunting (though it&#039;s hinted at that the Scars are more into falconry) and really enjoying their job, frequently admonishing recruits to laugh and smile when fighting. Hey, if you can channel the myriad of emotions, good, bad, and ugly the battlefield brings into sheer thrill then you&#039;ve found the only glory (and perhaps psychopathy) there is in war. Unfortunately, they don&#039;t hang out with anyone apart from their successors, so the rest of the Imperium has kept this misconception for millennia.  Their Primarch and Legion were also perhaps the only ones besides Guilliman and Lion to realize that they are, in fact, living weapons and not really more than that.  Unlike certain losers who realized this and went all grimderp, the White Scars embraced this and were totally fine with.  It was their purpose, simple as that.  Everyone likes knowing their purpose (except people who spent centuries deluding themselves).&lt;br /&gt;
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They used to get on well with the Luna Wolves - particularly the Terran portion of the Legion, many of whose members had aspired to join the other Legion only to find themselves seconded to the Scars (the Scars seem to have ranked just below the Space Wolves and World Eaters as the Legion aspirants most dreaded being assigned to). As a result of this, the Terran Khans tended to favour a mix of White Scars and Luna Wolves organisation and doctrine, to the point that they resented Jaghatai&#039;s leadership for being &amp;quot;flighty&amp;quot; compared to Horus&#039; fully committed, crushing attacks. Their relationship with the sons of Horus brought the Warrior Lodges into the White Scars. This was fairly harmless at first, and might have helped bring the Terran and Chogorian Astartes together in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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But then the Horus Heresy happened. The Lodge members were duped into rebelling against their Primarch and trying to force the Scars into declaring for Horus. They were kept in the dark about the whole Chaos and rebellion thing - as far as they were aware the only act of rebellion was the Space Wolves&#039; smashing the Thousand Sons. Unlike the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Fallen]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; :{{Blam|+++FOUL TRAITORS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE FIRST LEGION+++}}, these traitors were overwhelmed, eventually realized Horus was messing with some [[Warp|seriously fucked up shit]] and surrendered to the loyalists. Jaghatai executed the ringleaders and assigned all others to the Sagyar Mazan, where they performed suicide missions in [[Zone Mortalis]] missions to redeem themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Chogorian portion of the legion, on the other hand, used to be big bros with the [[Thousand Sons]], having Chogorian artistic culture colliding perfectly with the Prosperian knowledge-seeking and nerdity, not to mention the high positions psykers had in both legions. The fact that the Space Furries pretty much forced TS into turning to Chaos does not play well with Scars even to this day, which stacks with their dislike of Wolves&#039; &amp;quot;barbarian and proud of it&amp;quot; shtick (which is ironic considering modern-day Mongolia has a drinking culture that makes Russians look like sissy lightweights).&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of the [[Thousand Sons|nerds who wear blue better than the Ultramarines]], the White Scars also created a Librarius and ignored the [[Council of Nikaea|Edict of Nikaea]]. Their Librarians, who are also their Chaplains, are known as &#039;&#039;Stormseers&#039;&#039;; a call back to the title of the [[Rune Priest|shamans]] of Jaghatai&#039;s tribe. They also have another Chaplaincy, the [[TTS|Head Chaplaincy, dedicated to the collection of heads]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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One might imagine the Imperium being on high alert against the Scars, seeing as only two legions they ever got along with went traitor, but surprisingly it&#039;s not the case. May have something to do with them being the heroes of the Siege of Terra.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their current [[Chapter Master]], or rather, &#039;Great Khan&#039; is Jubal Khan, whose namesake once kicked Sigismund in the face. Legends are told of his sweet mustache across the entire length and breadth of the Imperium, which the mustache also spans. The Khan&#039;s bodyguard, the Keshig, are the only White Scars known to use Terminator Armour - presumably they wait until he&#039;s stuck in and teleport down onto the field, since it&#039;s hard to imagine Jubal letting things as insignificant as &#039;common sense&#039; or &#039;letting your bodyguards do their job&#039; get in the way of charging the enemy at mach 1.5.&lt;br /&gt;
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They probably get along well with the Attilan Rough Riders. If they&#039;d been the first to encounter the Interex instead of the Luna Wolves, the two factions would have probably got along pretty well except for the [[Interex]]&#039;s implied issues about psykers. Also, the Scars would&#039;ve dug that cyber-centaur armour.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Jaghatai Khan]]: Primarch of the White Scars and total speed demon. Believed that conquering an empire was much more fun than ruling it and disagreed with the Emperor about basically everything, though that didn&#039;t stop him being loyal to the Imperium. Kicked tons of ass in the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy, almost died in the Siege of Terra, and ultimately disappeared into the Webway while hunting some Dark Eldar dicks who&#039;d been raiding Chogoris. Many like to assume that he&#039;s still tear-assing through the Webway, possibly with a harem of [[Wyches]] in tow. &lt;br /&gt;
*Targutai Yesugei: Stormseer of the White Scars during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy and probably Jaghatai&#039;s best friend. Spoke in defense of the Librarius at Nikaea, but it didn&#039;t help much because he wasn&#039;t fluent in Gothic, so he came off like a stupid hick to the snooty Imperials. Despite this, he went on being bro-tier and using his psyker powers to aid his legion during the Heresy. Ultimately sacrificed himself to help the White Scars get back to Terra in time for the Siege.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tsolmon Khan: Veteran member of the White Scars who was born on Terra and served in the legion prior to Jaghatai&#039;s rediscovery. He wholeheartedly embraced Chogorian culture and the Khagan&#039;s reforms and became a pillar of the legion prior to the Heresy. When the Alpha Legion showed up to ruin the Scars&#039; day at Chondax, Tsolmon was on the ground on some planet called Byfrust with his brotherhood and some Sisters of Silence who happened to be there. They held the Alphas off until the XX Legion got bored and orbitally bombarded the place, but Tsolmon and his guys and some of the Sisters were able to evacuate in time. He recovered the relics and wargear of a Knight-Centura who&#039;d died fighting alongside him and brought them back to the other Sisters, also testifying as to her bravery. In response, the matriarchs of the Order decided to award him his very own &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;harem&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; personal guard of Silent Sisters, an honour which he apparently bore with great humility.&lt;br /&gt;
*Shiban Khan: Khan of the Brotherhood of the Storm during the Crusade and the Heresy. Was pretty bro-tier up until he got blown up during the White Scars&#039; mini-civil war at the beginning of the Heresy and rebuilt into an angry mass of scars and augmetics. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kor&#039;sarro Khan]]: Captain of the 3rd Company and Master of the Hunt. Cut off [[Doomrider]]&#039;s head and might be tsundere for [[Shadowsun]]. Upgraded to Primaris with the advent of 8th edition but can [[FAIL|no longer ride a bike]] for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily Rituals of a White Scar==&lt;br /&gt;
04:00 - Rousing from slumber. The White Scars get up from their bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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04:10 - Grooming. White Scars tend to their mustaches and long, flowing hair.&lt;br /&gt;
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05:00 - Morning Prayer. Those with mustaches pray to the God-Emperor for the strength to defeat their enemies. Those without pray for mustaches&lt;br /&gt;
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06:00 - Morning Firing Rites. White Scars practice with their bike-mounted weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:WhiteScars.JPG|200px|thumb|right|Quan Zhou, the White Scar [[Fortress-monastery]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle Practice. White Scars practice beheading a target with a single stroke of their swords during a 100 mph driveby.&lt;br /&gt;
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12:00 - Midday Prayer. White Scars pray for their bikes to perform well in the coming afternoon. Those without fabulous mustaches might  pray more desperately for mustaches.&lt;br /&gt;
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13:00 - Midday Meal. White Scars consume the various meats they had put under their saddles during the morning exercises. Meal is now properly cooked from the heat of the bike, the metallic, promethium-like flavor is said to add to the taste. Milk mixed with promethium from their bikes is consumed as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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13:15 - Tactical Indoctrination. White Scars are informed on which foes are the latest to elude the Chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
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15:00 - Battle Practice. White Scars practice beheading a target with a single stroke while hanging upside down from a Land Speeder.&lt;br /&gt;
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20:00 - Evening Prayer. White Scars give thanks to the Emperor for another productive day. The younger battle brothers fervently praise the emperor when they find stubble on their faces.&lt;br /&gt;
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21:00 - Evening Meal. A feast is provided by the Chapter serfs, consisting mostly of horse meat and Har Airag (fermented horse milk). Partaking in drunken throat singing is encouraged -- Jaghatai Khaani Magtaal (A Song of Praise for Jaghatai Khaan) is a particular favourite.&lt;br /&gt;
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21:45 - Night Firing Exercises. The White Scars practice formations in the dark. Any marine who crashes into another is disciplined.&lt;br /&gt;
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23:00 - Maintenance Rituals. White Scars spend time maintaining and customizing their bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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23:45 - Free Time. White Scars prefer to spend this time on things like poetry (about their battles), painting (their battles) and calligraphy (writing about their battles). Others opt for more time on the bike&lt;br /&gt;
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00:00 - Rest Period. White Scars return to (or park) their bikes and sleep on them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brother Konig]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kor&#039;sarro Khan]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc White Scars attributed battle hymn.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwutOqv4cGo&amp;amp;list=RDYwutOqv4cGo&amp;amp;start_radio=1 song that fits PERFECTLY for White Scars] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc7TOqhndiw Another hymn.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8 *throat singing intensifies*]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = White Scars&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[file:Whitescarslogo.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = &amp;quot;For the Khan and the Emperor!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = V&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Star Hunters&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = [[Dark Hunters]], [[Destroyers]], [[Iron Talons]], [[Mantis Warriors]], [[Marauders]], [[Rampagers]], [[Storm Lords]], [[Storm Reapers]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = Jubal Khan&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Jaghatai Khan]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[Chogoris]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Fast attack units, bikes, and Librarians&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = 1,000&lt;br /&gt;
|Allegiance = [[Imperium of Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = White and red&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.|The Mighty Genghis Khaan, as quoted in the Jami-al-Tawarikh of Rashid Al-Din Tabib}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|He carried the &#039;&#039;sulde&#039;&#039; for the sake of his kinsmen. He plunged into battle with the dogs. &amp;quot;I will massacre them all,&amp;quot; he said, &amp;quot;and take back my horses.|Manas-e-Destani, the epic saga of Kyrgyzstan}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|What is of the greatest importance in war is extraordinary speed: one cannot afford to neglect opportunity.|Sun Tzu}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;White Scars&#039;&#039;&#039; (although to themselves, they are named the &amp;quot;Horde of Jaghatai&amp;quot;) are a [[Chapter]] of [[Space Marines]] that are basically [[Mongols]] in [[Power Armor]] and on bikes, in contrast to the Space Vikings of the [[Space Wolves]] and Space Vampires of the [[Blood Angels]]. Their [[Primarch]] is known as [[Jaghatai Khan]]. Their requisite one-trick-pony is hit-and-run attacks, which they do on those sweet bikes of theirs. They are specifically a mixture of Mongols and Tatars, with very strong Chinese influence (think Yuan dynasty) and a few sparingly-used sprinkles of Japan. Due largely to [[Chris Wraight]]&#039;s and the [[Black Library]] cover artists&#039; attempts to be respectful to these cultures, this leaves them surprisingly aesthetically diverse - the White Scars recruit from a collection of heterogenous tribes rather than a single unified culture, meaning their depicted hairstyles and armour customisations can come from pretty much anywhere in and any historical period of East Asia in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, their bikes (mounts?) don&#039;t give a fuck about difficult terrain [[Skyrim|(Bitch, I&#039;m a bike!)]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In the meta, they&#039;ve probably benefited the most from the Horus Heresy, with Chris Wraight finally building them beyond the very basics of their fluff and keeping them well away from the derpery which has often afflicted other Legions. Even their cameos in other Legions&#039; stories have been badass.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZfEh3EciU&amp;amp;ab_channel=EAStarWars This is their themesong]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmI3vAIhbE Or this if you&#039;d rather mock than admire].  Though really, Wolf Totem by The Hu is their true theme song.&lt;br /&gt;
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They now have an officially released Codex Supplement for 8e.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Unification Wars, the Vth legion served as the eyes and ears of the unifiers. They were the scouts of big E, who sought out anyone who dared oppose Him. They traveled through the devastated landscape of Terra, often in small groups of a few dozen, looking for any enemies or foes in the wasteland. When the unification of Terra ended, the Emperor split the Vth legion into pioneer companies of several hundred marines to scout the frontier. These pioneer companies were all related by gene seed, but were otherwise independent divisions. The pioneer companies would always travel far ahead of the main expeditions, following warp currents to places unknown. &lt;br /&gt;
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This behavior was also the origin of the legion&#039;s preference for hit and run tactics. Since the pioneer companies were almost always fighting against foes that outnumbered them, it was pretty much the only option for them. They would perform raids and surprise attacks on the enemy, learning the strategies and tactics of the enemy, and then pass on what they learned to other expedition. Though some like Horus appreciated them, (he was especially fond of the pioneer company that discovered his homeworld, and was amused that the captain reported that &amp;quot;it was a nest of serpents coiling in the dark that we would be better to destroy&amp;quot;) the Vth legion&#039;s battles were seldom given attention, though none of the &amp;quot;legion&amp;quot; were especially upset over this, and they kept to themselves anyway. &lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, Jaghatai was found (ironically, by the Luna Wolves instead of the pioneer companies). Unifying his &amp;quot;legion&amp;quot; was not an easy task, as the pioneer companies had fought indepedently for so long that even other members of the Vth were seen as outsiders. When all the legionnaires had come to Chogoris (this process took nearly a decade), the Khan made all present undergo a Chogorian ritual, which involved first scarification, and then choosing a new name. To further solidify the bonds between members, Jaghatai and his men participated in the age old Spehss Mehreen bonding exercise of killing Orks. The Khan deployed his men such that the initiated Chogorians would fight alongside the Terrans, and that the warriors would have to rely on others to defeat the foes. A tenth of the legion died in the battle, but the remaining came out as a unified legion for perhaps the first time in their history.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
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When Horus flipped out and started having his little tantrum, the White Scars were on the far side of nowhere from the rest of the Imperium, having a grand old time killing Orks on Chondax. Because of this, they had no idea what was going on until they started to receive contradictory messages from both sides. Horus sent them a message claiming that the Space Wolves had turned traitor and fragged Prospero, while Rogal Dorn told them that &#039;&#039;Horus&#039;&#039; was the traitor and recalled them to Terra. Just to make things more complicated, the Alpha Legion showed up unexpectedly and set up a blockade of the Chondax system, and then they also received a distress call from the Wolves, who were getting pummeled by the Alpha Legion at the Alaxxes Nebula. Jaghatai considered all this, then decided to go figure out what was going on for himself. The Scars blew past the Alpha Legion fleet with their superior speed, told the Wolves to have a nice winter, and took off for Prospero. There, the Khan discovered a shard of [[Magnus]] that had been left behind after [[Burning of Prospero|the furries&#039; outing.]] The shard explained that both sides were correct, from a certain point of view: Russ and the Wolves had indeed blown Prospero to hell, but Magnus had sort of brought it on himself, and Horus and his allies were the real traitors. At this point, [[Mortarion]] turned up with a Death Guard fleet, hoping to recruit Jaghatai for Team Horus. The Khan laughed in his face, pointed out that Morty had chosen the side which stood for everything he hated, and dueled him for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
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While all this was going on, some of the Terran White Scars were trying to force the legion to declare for Horus (ironic as in the traitor legions the loyalists were mostly the Terrans); they almost succeeded, but one of the legion&#039;s mortal officers was able to teleport the Khan back up to his flagship. He revealed what he&#039;d learned to the Scars, and the pro-Horus faction surrendered. Some were executed, while the rest were formed into suicide squads called the Sagyar Mazan and sent out to kill traitors until they died themselves. The Khan opted to go fight a guerrilla war against the Traitor Legions, though not before swearing that he would return to Terra when needed. The Scars actually did a fairly good job of tying up Horus&#039; forces for a while, but after four years of relentless attritional warfare, they realized it was time to head for Terra before they were cut off and destroyed. The legion rallied at the Catallus [[Warp Rift]], where they found a Webway portal controlled by a device called the Dark Glass. While they were studying the Dark Glass, the Death Guard caught up with them, once again led by Mortarion, [[RAGE|who was starting to take things personally]]. In the end, though Jaghatai wished to make a last stand against the traitors, his Chief [[Librarian|Stormseer]] [http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Targutai_Yesugei|Targutai Yesugei] used the Dark Glass to open a Webway portal to Terra, and Jaghatai and the legion took their chance. The last of the Sagyar Mazan squads remained behind to delay the Death Guard, and &#039;&#039;nearly&#039;&#039; got Mortarion killed on the Khan&#039;s flagship by holding him there until the ship&#039;s reactor exploded.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Scars were one of the three loyalist legions that fought in the [[Siege of Terra]], alongside the Imperial Fists and the Blood Angels. We don&#039;t know much about their role in the battle yet, except that they recaptured an important spaceport so that loyalist reinforcements could be brought in, [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|and that the Khan apparently spent at least part of the siege commanding his legion from atop a Razorback.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Memes aside, the White Scars counterattacked traitor forces at the Lion&#039;s Gate Spaceport. The attack was led by Jaghatai Khan himself, who will duel and banish his daemon primarch brother Mortarion through decapitation. The victory came at the cost of the Khan&#039;s life, but his body was rescued and sent to Malcador for emergency so he can come back to get lost in the webway.&lt;br /&gt;
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===M41===&lt;br /&gt;
When the [[Great Rift]] opened near Chogoris, the [[Red Corsairs]] invaded the sector,  leaving behind corruption and is currently entrenched in the sector. The White Scars fought off the Red Corsairs, several Warbands, and daemons beside the united tribals.  That&#039;s right, [[Awesome|the White Scars pretty much &#039;&#039;on their own&#039;&#039; beat back a force that could be capable of challenging Abbadon&#039;s own Black Legion and his allied Warbands]].  The current chapter master Jubal was injured but still leads from the infirmary.  He was tortured beyond the Imperium&#039;s ability to repair but remains sane, keen, and awake.  He now leads the Chapter remotely, seeing through outriders and giving orders on a segmentum scale.  If anything, his skills have increased as he now can devote his attention fully to commanding his men and leaving the rest to his subordinates.  Not to mention whatever devices they probably hooked his brain up to.  I mean, it would make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Organization==&lt;br /&gt;
They are known for their sweet mustaches and the Scars they make on their faces upon induction into the Chapter. They are &#039;&#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039;&#039; known for the Scars they make on the enemies of the Emprah&#039;s faces &#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039; induction into the Chapter. Which is introduced into the chapter after Jaghatai was reunited with the 5th Legion, (i.e. his legion) as he had recently united the fierce tribes of the Talksar tribesmen. Never mind that many Talksar did join the legion due to their loyalty to Jaghatai. Also, they only recruit from Jaghatai&#039;s adopted homeworld: Mundus Planus (known as Chogoris to the natives). Up until the Horus Heresy, there was a mix of Terran and Chogorian legionaries, and quite likely many legionaries from other diverse planets across galaxy prior to their reunion with Jaghatai.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:3d0a524229f9c180bcf4689948e874e6.jpg|thumb|600px|left|For those of us who want to play barbarous Marines without [[Space Wolves|being a furry]] or [[Chaos Space Marine|worshipping Satan]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And of course the whole biker thing makes slower moving tanks and troops (like Devastators) rare; in their place they have a large amount of drop pods, Land Speeders and Rhinos. Plus bikes, lots and lots of bikes. Space bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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They have an incredibly deep, abiding rivalry with the [[Raven Guard]] because of their conflicting general tactical doctrines - according to Deathwatch, a failure to cooperate in an old war campaign destroyed any chances of fostering ties they might&#039;ve had. While the Raven Guard prefers to lie in wait and plan out their attacks down to the letter to ensure the most efficient results are achieved when they finally start their attacks, the White Scars pretty much does the opposite and just rush in chainswords drawn, using their fast-attack specialty to overwhelm their opponents with sheer speed and force. Despite the animosity, the two forces have fought alongside one another on multiple occasions, and it&#039;s worth noting it&#039;s more of a competitive rivalry in any case. Plus lately the Ravens rode shotgun on a Great Hunt, which made for a great bonding exercise. &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their savage image, much like their main inspiration, they&#039;re actually one of the most cultured legions (and by far one of the best-groomed) in the current Imperium, with aspirants having to take up pursuits like poetry, painting and calligraphy (often about their battles), and wearing silks in their downtime. As a result, they don&#039;t like hanging around with the [[Space Wolves|mad drunk Vikings who treat the whole barbarian thing like a badge of honour]]. The only cultural traits they share are hunting (though it&#039;s hinted at that the Scars are more into falconry) and really enjoying their job, frequently admonishing recruits to laugh and smile when fighting. Hey, if you can channel the myriad of emotions, good, bad, and ugly the battlefield brings into sheer thrill then you&#039;ve found the only glory (and perhaps psychopathy) there is in war. Unfortunately, they don&#039;t hang out with anyone apart from their successors, so the rest of the Imperium has kept this misconception for millennia.  Their Primarch and Legion were also perhaps the only ones besides Guilliman and Lion to realize that they are, in fact, living weapons and not really more than that.  Unlike certain losers who realized this and went all grimderp, the White Scars embraced this and were totally fine with.  It was their purpose, simple as that.  Everyone likes knowing their purpose (except people who spent centuries deluding themselves).&lt;br /&gt;
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They used to get on well with the Luna Wolves - particularly the Terran portion of the Legion, many of whose members had aspired to join the other Legion only to find themselves seconded to the Scars (the Scars seem to have ranked just below the Space Wolves and World Eaters as the Legion aspirants most dreaded being assigned to). As a result of this, the Terran Khans tended to favour a mix of White Scars and Luna Wolves organisation and doctrine, to the point that they resented Jaghatai&#039;s leadership for being &amp;quot;flighty&amp;quot; compared to Horus&#039; fully committed, crushing attacks. Their relationship with the sons of Horus brought the Warrior Lodges into the White Scars. This was fairly harmless at first, and might have helped bring the Terran and Chogorian Astartes together in time.&lt;br /&gt;
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But then the Horus Heresy happened. The Lodge members were duped into rebelling against their Primarch and trying to force the Scars into declaring for Horus. They were kept in the dark about the whole Chaos and rebellion thing - as far as they were aware the only act of rebellion was the Space Wolves&#039; smashing the Thousand Sons. Unlike the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Fallen]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; :{{Blam|+++FOUL TRAITORS COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE FIRST LEGION+++}}, these traitors were overwhelmed, eventually realized Horus was messing with some [[Warp|seriously fucked up shit]] and surrendered to the loyalists. Jaghatai executed the ringleaders and assigned all others to the Sagyar Mazan, where they performed suicide missions in [[Zone Mortalis]] missions to redeem themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Chogorian portion of the legion, on the other hand, used to be big bros with the [[Thousand Sons]], having Chogorian artistic culture colliding perfectly with the Prosperian knowledge-seeking and nerdity, not to mention the high positions psykers had in both legions. The fact that the Space Furries pretty much forced TS into turning to Chaos does not play well with Scars even to this day, which stacks with their dislike of Wolves&#039; &amp;quot;barbarian and proud of it&amp;quot; shtick (which is ironic considering modern-day Mongolia has a drinking culture that makes Russians look like sissy lightweights).&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of the [[Thousand Sons|nerds who wear blue better than the Ultramarines]], the White Scars also created a Librarius and ignored the [[Council of Nikaea|Edict of Nikaea]]. Their Librarians, who are also their Chaplains, are known as &#039;&#039;Stormseers&#039;&#039;; a call back to the title of the [[Rune Priest|shamans]] of Jaghatai&#039;s tribe. They also have another Chaplaincy, the [[TTS|Head Chaplaincy, dedicated to the collection of heads]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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One might imagine the Imperium being on high alert against the Scars, seeing as only two legions they ever got along with went traitor, but surprisingly it&#039;s not the case. May have something to do with them being the heroes of the Siege of Terra.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their current [[Chapter Master]], or rather, &#039;Great Khan&#039; is Jubal Khan, whose namesake once kicked Sigismund in the face. Legends are told of his sweet mustache across the entire length and breadth of the Imperium, which the mustache also spans. The Khan&#039;s bodyguard, the Keshig, are the only White Scars known to use Terminator Armour - presumably they wait until he&#039;s stuck in and teleport down onto the field, since it&#039;s hard to imagine Jubal letting things as insignificant as &#039;common sense&#039; or &#039;letting your bodyguards do their job&#039; get in the way of charging the enemy at mach 1.5.&lt;br /&gt;
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They probably get along well with the Attilan Rough Riders. If they&#039;d been the first to encounter the Interex instead of the Luna Wolves, the two factions would have probably got along pretty well except for the [[Interex]]&#039;s implied issues about psykers. Also, the Scars would&#039;ve dug that cyber-centaur armour.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Members==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Jaghatai Khan]]: Primarch of the White Scars and total speed demon. Believed that conquering an empire was much more fun than ruling it and disagreed with the Emperor about basically everything, though that didn&#039;t stop him being loyal to the Imperium. Kicked tons of ass in the Great Crusade and the Horus Heresy, almost died in the Siege of Terra, and ultimately disappeared into the Webway while hunting some Dark Eldar dicks who&#039;d been raiding Chogoris. Many like to assume that he&#039;s still tear-assing through the Webway, possibly with a harem of [[Wyches]] in tow. &lt;br /&gt;
*Targutai Yesugei: Stormseer of the White Scars during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy and probably Jaghatai&#039;s best friend. Spoke in defense of the Librarius at Nikaea, but it didn&#039;t help much because he wasn&#039;t fluent in Gothic, so he came off like a stupid hick to the snooty Imperials. Despite this, he went on being bro-tier and using his psyker powers to aid his legion during the Heresy. Ultimately sacrificed himself to help the White Scars get back to Terra in time for the Siege.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tsolmon Khan: Veteran member of the White Scars who was born on Terra and served in the legion prior to Jaghatai&#039;s rediscovery. He wholeheartedly embraced Chogorian culture and the Khagan&#039;s reforms and became a pillar of the legion prior to the Heresy. When the Alpha Legion showed up to ruin the Scars&#039; day at Chondax, Tsolmon was on the ground on some planet called Byfrust with his brotherhood and some Sisters of Silence who happened to be there. They held the Alphas off until the XX Legion got bored and orbitally bombarded the place, but Tsolmon and his guys and some of the Sisters were able to evacuate in time. He recovered the relics and wargear of a Knight-Centura who&#039;d died fighting alongside him and brought them back to the other Sisters, also testifying as to her bravery. In response, the matriarchs of the Order decided to award him his very own &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;harem&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; personal guard of Silent Sisters, an honour which he apparently bore with great humility.&lt;br /&gt;
*Shiban Khan: Khan of the Brotherhood of the Storm during the Crusade and the Heresy. Was pretty bro-tier up until he got blown up during the White Scars&#039; mini-civil war at the beginning of the Heresy and rebuilt into an angry mass of scars and augmetics. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kor&#039;sarro Khan]]: Captain of the 3rd Company and Master of the Hunt. Cut off [[Doomrider]]&#039;s head and might be tsundere for [[Shadowsun]]. Upgraded to Primaris with the advent of 8th edition but can [[FAIL|no longer ride a bike]] for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily Rituals of a White Scar==&lt;br /&gt;
04:00 - Rousing from slumber. The White Scars get up from their bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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04:10 - Grooming. White Scars tend to their mustaches and long, flowing hair.&lt;br /&gt;
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05:00 - Morning Prayer. Those with mustaches pray to the God-Emperor for the strength to defeat their enemies. Those without pray for mustaches&lt;br /&gt;
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06:00 - Morning Firing Rites. White Scars practice with their bike-mounted weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:WhiteScars.JPG|200px|thumb|right|Quan Zhou, the White Scar [[Fortress-monastery]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
07:00 - Battle Practice. White Scars practice beheading a target with a single stroke of their swords during a 100 mph driveby.&lt;br /&gt;
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12:00 - Midday Prayer. White Scars pray for their bikes to perform well in the coming afternoon. Those without fabulous mustaches might  pray more desperately for mustaches.&lt;br /&gt;
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13:00 - Midday Meal. White Scars consume the various meats they had put under their saddles during the morning exercises. Meal is now properly cooked from the heat of the bike, the metallic, promethium-like flavor is said to add to the taste. Milk mixed with promethium from their bikes is consumed as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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13:15 - Tactical Indoctrination. White Scars are informed on which foes are the latest to elude the Chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
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15:00 - Battle Practice. White Scars practice beheading a target with a single stroke while hanging upside down from a Land Speeder.&lt;br /&gt;
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20:00 - Evening Prayer. White Scars give thanks to the Emperor for another productive day. The younger battle brothers fervently praise the emperor when they find stubble on their faces.&lt;br /&gt;
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21:00 - Evening Meal. A feast is provided by the Chapter serfs, consisting mostly of horse meat and Har Airag (fermented horse milk). Partaking in drunken throat singing is encouraged -- Jaghatai Khaani Magtaal (A Song of Praise for Jaghatai Khaan) is a particular favourite.&lt;br /&gt;
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21:45 - Night Firing Exercises. The White Scars practice formations in the dark. Any marine who crashes into another is disciplined.&lt;br /&gt;
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23:00 - Maintenance Rituals. White Scars spend time maintaining and customizing their bikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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23:45 - Free Time. White Scars prefer to spend this time on things like poetry (about their battles), painting (their battles) and calligraphy (writing about their battles). Others opt for more time on the bike&lt;br /&gt;
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00:00 - Rest Period. White Scars return to (or park) their bikes and sleep on them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brother Konig]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kor&#039;sarro Khan]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8dCGIm6yc White Scars attributed battle hymn.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwutOqv4cGo&amp;amp;list=RDYwutOqv4cGo&amp;amp;start_radio=1 song that fits PERFECTLY for White Scars] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc7TOqhndiw Another hymn.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8 *throat singing intensifies*]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus Portrait.png|400px|thumb|right|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yul Brynner&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Lex Luthor&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jean-Luc Picard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Professor X pre-paralysis&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Vin Diesel&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Horus Lupercal, the Warmaster. Here shown prior to getting his Chaos on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|&#039;&#039;&#039;Let the galaxy burn.&#039;&#039;&#039;|Horus Lupercal, ruining everything for everyone for ever}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.|Satan in John Milton&#039;s &#039;&#039;Paradise Lost&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|[[Primarch|Angels]] are bright still, though the brightest [[Chaos|fell]].|William Shakespeare}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Horus *wah Daddy, I didn’t get enough hugs* Lupercal, The Breaker of Tyrants, The Warmaster, The Arch-Traitor, That Bald Cunt&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If_the_Emperor_had_a_Text-to-Speech_Device|FUCKING HORUS!]]&#039;&#039;&#039; was the [[Primarch]] of the [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion]], and the main figure in the event known as the [[Horus Heresy|Horus]] [[Heresy]] (this is NOT a dead giveaway. Oh no), who is generally known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;THE GUY WHO FUCK&#039;D IT ALL UP&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, [[Erebus |but not really really.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Horus-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|right|thumb|Young Horus in all his bald glory (looking weirdly like Benito Mussolini cross with a WWE wrestler).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Once the most favoured son of his father the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]], he began to resent his father&#039;s treatment of him and other Primarchs, and believing that the Emperor&#039;s secret plan was to become a god using his own Primarch sons as a tool (when in fact all this is [[Just as planned|due to the lies]] of a [[Lorgar|certain religious zealot]]), eventually turned to [[Chaos]]. If you really need to be told any of this, what in the actual fuck are you doing on /tg/ in the first place? This is such common knowledge, that the outlines of the Horus Heresy and every bad ass taking part in it, are more or less [[Dwarf Fortress|engraved]] in the mind of every /tg/ reader. Much like the Emperor being crippled and the Imperium devolving into a bureaucratic [[grimdark]] empire, the death of Horus and the placement of [[Abaddon]] as the most influential Chaos champion ever, turned the Traitor legions from a genocidal force bent on utter domination for the glory of Chaos into a Saturday-morning cartoon villain organization. Also his armour made him look like an egg. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is argued that Horus was not actually evil but possessed by the Chaos Gods or that he was a victim of [[Lorgar]], who is officially labeled as &amp;quot;The First Heretic.&amp;quot; However, he was still [[Eldrad|a massive dick]]. Hence the common saying in the post-Heresy Imperium: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Of all the mighty Primarchs, Horus sure was a dick.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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But long story short, the Imperium got into this fucked up state because this guy had daddy issues (honestly, who didn&#039;t?), he got scammed by [[Erebus|religious nutjobs]], and [[Grimdark|because the Chaos Gods showed him horrific visions of the future, supposedly under the Emperor&#039;s rule]], all while conveniently leaving out the fact that it would be his own efforts to avert said future that would cause it in the first place. Lol-irony. They did show him that the Emperor was planning to discard him and the other rest of the Space Marines when their usefulness ended, and in fairness, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; was actually completely true as Master of Mankind shows and which totally contradicts previous Horus Heresy novels where the chambers the primarchs were supposed to live in once the Crusade ended were depicted. Why would you build large apartments for your &amp;quot;sons&amp;quot; if you really did not give a rat&#039;s ass about them? Or was the EMPRA intending on luring them into their respective apartment and then strangle them to death? Why go through all the effort when his psychic might was enough to force Lorgar to kneel (causing a small brain hemorrhage as evidenced by blood tricking out of his nose. See &amp;quot;The First Heretic)? He could have just BLAMMED them all Thunder Warrior style with all his psychic prowess and shit. Either way, you know what they say- the best lies contain a grain of truth. The Chaos Gods did show Horus the future he would create which seemed to prove that the EMPRA had planned his own ascension all along (so he obviously must enjoy to be chilling on the couch as a decomposing corpse these days).&lt;br /&gt;
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It also doesn&#039;t help that there&#039;s prior precedence provided by Malcador committing damnatio memoriae on the [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|11th and 2nd Primarchs]], a conspiracy which was first uncovered during its development by [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]] and brought to the attention of the Warmaster himself, leading to a confrontation between [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]], Horus, [[Jaghatai Khan]] &amp;amp; [[Malcador the Sigillite]] on [[Terra]]. After calling each other [[that guy|ambitious freeloaders]], Horus threatened Malcador&#039;s life, to which the Sigillite said if they didn&#039;t like the erasure of the recently lost legion, they could shove that &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;precious&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; vainglorious memory of theirs where the sun don&#039;t shine. When Horus tried to speak his dead brother&#039;s name as an act of defiance, Malcador froze his brain &amp;amp; had to be talked down from sploding his grey matter all over the room by Jaghatai &amp;amp; [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]]. When he got back up, [[RAGE|Horus flipped a table and gave Malcador the bird when he had his back turned]], effectively planting the seed of resentment &amp;amp; pouring boiling piss over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is during this confrontation that it&#039;s revealed that Horus had always disagreed with the idea of standard humans ruling over themselves &amp;amp; believed that since it was he, the other Primarchs and their Astartes who conquered the stars, that it should be themselves who rule over the compliant planets; rather than this opinion being implanted by the ruinous powers, it was merely exacerbated. His low opinion on mortals probably isn&#039;t helped by the fact that the conspiracy to condemn the memory of his [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|lost brothers]] was concocted by baseline noble humans (there was even a noble present from House Carpinus by the name of [[Dune|Na-Baron]] Petronius Vivar at the confrontation with Malcador). Evidently, the other traitor Primarchs thought much the same when he revealed to them that it was the Emperor&#039;s plan to give the right to govern these planets to standard humans of noble houses, only to then discard the Primarchs and the remaining 18 legions ([[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|2nd and 11th style]]) once their stated purpose had been fulfilled. How this plan exactly meshes with putting Magnus on the Golden Throne to manage the Webway for Him is unknown, but we suspect it involves strapping an explosive collar around his neck that would detonate should he decide to peel his red ass off the chair. No bathroom breaks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way though, the Emperor psychically nuking of Horus&#039; body and soul means Horus is gone as fuck now, occasional Fabius Bile cloning shenanigans notwithstanding, and Horus&#039; influence of modern 40K will remain posthumous.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, 40K(30K?) Horus has more of an reverse connection to his Egyptian god namesake, given the Egyptian Horus heroically took to the throne of the gods from a usurper while 40K Horus is instead the failed usurper.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New fluff==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|600px|thumb|right|If this reminds you of every Baroque and/or Christianity-related painting from the Renaissance up until the 19th Century, good. Also note how the Custodes are Dark Silver and wearing Pickelhauben (That&#039;s because these are Sagittarum Guard).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Recent fluff from the book &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039; has Horus visiting the same gate to the Warp on Molech that the [[Emperor]] used to get some of his powers. While only seconds pass in the Materium, Horus spends what is basically implied to be an eternity inside the Warp battling rival Daemon Princes, amassing billions of warp-creature minions, and wrecking shit. In the end he somehow gains the same powers that the Emperor received to create the Primarchs, but Horus gets them in a &amp;quot;legit&amp;quot; way (as far as the Ruinous Powers are concerned) by passing their near constant tests through sheer force of will, where the Emperor just took what he wanted. Refusing to become a slave to the Ruinous Powers (or perhaps that&#039;s what the Chaos Gods wanted him to think) he leaves his Warp-empire to return to his rebellion in the Materium. Horus&#039; time inside the Warp was so long that he, a fully grown Primarch, had visibly aged. However with his new psychic hack abilities he disguises his over-the-hill face and still maintains his youthful appearance. Apparently the Emperor does the same trick. This was basically a big retcon by Black Library who previously explained Horus being able to fight toe-to-toe with the Big E as having all four Chaos Gods channel their powers into him at once. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s important to explore this clusterfuck of nonsense to make sense of the lore before one comes to the rubbish conclusion that the Emperor only became god-like after Molech. This is balls-deep nonsense. This is what Horus (who is himself not in any way whatsoever a good source for reliable information regarding Chaos) thinks he knows from his own narrow/skewed/manipulated point of view. The more commonly held belief is that, as with the vision he received from the [[Erebus|Great Fuckhead Himself]], he was misled. That the Emperor, a being capable of trapping and fighting a C&#039;Tan (that as it turned out had been tired out prior by another warp entity... oops) during the Middle Ages, was always as powerful as He has been portrayed. It is explained that the Primarchs are more than just flesh and bone, and that each of them has a fraction of His personality in them that they themselves embody. [[Ferrus Manus]]&#039; rather dramatic death highlights that inside Primarchs lies a great deal of energy. Now to the heart of it - Molech. Why would a being as powerful as the Emperor, who has to combat 4 monstrously powerful otherworldly entities whilst maintaining a beacon anywhere he goes, soul bound psykers and fight throughout the Great Crusade, split His formidable power 20 times into 20 beings? He wouldn&#039;t, he&#039;d grab extra power to do so. That was Molech - a source and gateway to a wellspring of power claimed by Chaos for its use alone. A source the Emperor broke into and stole/took/tricked for His Primarch Project. Using the additional power, He crafted, with His scientific mastery, 20 genetically engineered super hosts. In the same way that god-aligned daemons are formed by splitting a portion off the God itself, He used each portion of power as a blank mold, investing them with a sliver of His personality and allowing the power to coalesce around it to form a soul/Emperor-Greater Daemon. That pseudo-daemon is then implanted in a host that can never die or degrade due to age, perfectly tailored to hold it. This explains why each Primarch radiates an aura of awe and magnificence. Horus didn&#039;t become as powerful as the Emperor, he retrieved the power that made himself and all his brothers and had it infused into himself. While it appears he has lost a significant chunk of this power (and a piece of his soul) after his duel with Leman Russ in the [[Battle of Trisolian]], the Ruinous Powers soon after began to mainline him with warp energy to the point where he began to bulge at the seams, so by the onset of the [[Siege of Terra]] he resembled something in between walking cancerous tumor growth amalgamation and juicing steroid junkie. Whether or not he will manage to be a match for the Emperor as yet remains to be seen. That said, we know who won the duel. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the duel with Russ, Horus suddenly entered a near coma, throwing the legion into disarray. Maloghurst later entered the Realm of Chaos and found that a part of Horus&#039;s soul - an uncorrupted part - was still trapped in the Warp. That part of his soul was suffering from the effects of Russ&#039;s spear, leading to the material Horus falling unconcious. The fragment expressed remorse over it&#039;s actions, as well as a morbid clarity that his rebellion was just part of the Gods plan and he had been manipulated into doing so. Left with no other option, Maloghurst destroyed the fragment at the cost of his own life, releasing Horus from his coma and giving him total control over the powers granted by the Chaos Gods, as well as leaving him utterly without doubt in his actions (however delusional they may actually have been).&lt;br /&gt;
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In Path of Heaven he appears in all his pomp and Chaotic corruption to assign Mortarion to kill Jaghatai Khan, explain that all his other generals have gone doolally and wax lyrical about killing the Emperor, as well as make the point that being &#039;roided up by the raw stuff of the Empyrean doesn&#039;t get you out of having to manage the logistics of a galactic civil war. Soon after, Mortarion kills his Navigators in a fit of rage and makes the dumbass decision to go into the warp anyway. In other words, Horus was the only one of his brothers who had his shit together, which was why the Horus Heresy fell apart so quickly after his death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Newest fluff heavily suggests that Chaos Gods&#039; plan from the very beginning was for Horus to lose, but only barely. Apparently the Gods knew about the [[Cabal]]&#039;s plans and made sure they would get the outcome of a fucked up Imperium that lasts for millennia, feeding them with all the negative emotions they needed, rather than an Imperium of Chaos which would go to shit in a few centuries of infighting, taking humanity and gods themselves with it. It does make sense that at least Khorne and Nurgle would appreciate a bloody and decaying Imperium. One daemon even referred to Horus as &amp;quot;sacrificial lamb&amp;quot; needed to stop the Imperium from turning into a prosperous empire of reason, and kickstart the [[Long War]]. (Though Eldrad disagrees and John Grammaticus has seen Horus actually won the Heresy and Chaos was not only fine but enjoying the aftermath) The Emperor may have developed a counter-plan that caused the Chaos Gods to scream in frustration in &#039;&#039;The Outcast Dead&#039;&#039; but that book is fairly trippy. Later still, Lorgar hinted that the Chaos Gods were displeased with the Warmaster&#039;s unwillingness to become a slave to Chaos and that his ultimate defeat in the duel with the Emperor would be a punishment for his refusal to surrender his will to them. By the time of the Siege of Terra, his body and mind were outright falling apart as the Chaos Gods&#039; power was becoming too much to handle, forcing Abaddon to do much of the actual work in leading the Traitor Legions. &lt;br /&gt;
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Long after the Scouring, Fabius Bile succeeded in creating a stable clone of a pre-Molech Horus, who utterly wrecked a huge boarding party of traitor marines before being fucking impaled through the chest with his own talon by Abbadon. The clone was capable of speech and seemed to possess a semblance of memory from its twin brother&#039;s past (calling Abbadon its &amp;quot;son&amp;quot;, just before being turned into a kebab). It&#039;s unknown why it was so hostile to other Astartes or what degree of control Fabius had over it. Several prominent marines were adamant that such an abomination (cloned Astartes apparently being the closest thing to taboo you can get for even a traitor marine) would not be Horus in any way, because his soul was annihilated by the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Good Guy Horus==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s often forgotten by fans that before he was corrupted and decieved by [[Erebus]] and [[Lorgar]], Horus was a genuinely nice guy, he could even be found regularly posting on the r/niceguys subreddit. Fans are quick to joke about &amp;quot;that dick Horus,&amp;quot; but before [[Heresy|Things Went Wrong]] he was one of the most personable, down to earth primarchs. Yeah, part of the reason people fell for him so easily was that he shared the Emperor&#039;s psychic magnetism, but he also went out of his way to be friendly and considerate of custom, if not necessarily polite. Granted, at times he had arrogance to match [[Magnus]] and choler to match [[Angron]], but despite that he always made effort to honor those under his command, mortal and astartes alike. [[Konrad Curze|While]] [[Angron|many]] [[Mortarion|other]] [[Perturabo|primarchs]] saw their warriors as little more than tools, or [[Fulgrim|were]] [[Ferrus Manus|aloof]] and [[Corvus Corax|unapproachable]], Horus was a true father to his sons, guiding and shaping them personally. To most legions it would be unimaginable for the primarch to personally seek out and comfort a legionary during a time of crisis, but for the Luna Wolves, it was obvious. He was no saint or coddler, as we see him encourage rivalries within and between his legion and others, but in doing so he brought strength and glory. Even when dealing with outsiders, he always attempted diplomacy before making war, something even his gentler brothers cannot say. In fact, one of the primary reasons why Horus was named Warmaster over other candidates like Guilliman, the Lion, or even Sanguinius was that he was such a people person. He was friends with nearly all of his brothers and was superhumanly savvy when it came to knowing how to talk to people. In this same vein, he was also a master manipulator, and routinely used his savvy to get people, even people who didn&#039;t agree with him, to do what he wanted. He was in fact so good at this this he had the ability to change his personality and demeanor to suit particular situations, appearing a slightly different person to others based on what he thought would get him the best results. He got along famously with all of his brothers save one; even total psychos like Angron and Konrad Curze just couldn&#039;t help but love the guy. The only brother of his who didn&#039;t like him was Corax, which was due to the newly-initiated Warmaster somewhat clumsily trying to exert his authority over Corax and getting a bunch of Raven Guard killed unnecessarily. Horus was a cunning, brutal, supremely confident warlord with a huge cock (what) who nonetheless took great pains to make sure his warriors and mortal retainers were treated well, and furthermore, from the very few pre-Davin POV scenes we get, we know he &#039;&#039;actually believed&#039;&#039; others deserved to be treated well, it wasn&#039;t simply [[Fulgrim|feigned politeness]] or [[Roboute Guilliman|a calculated display of regard]]. Then fucking [[Erebus]] happened.  Even his edgy rebellion and fall to Chaos was due to his honest love of people.  He&#039;s basically 40k&#039;s version of Arthas Menethil.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Capabilities==&lt;br /&gt;
It has often been said that Horus was the single greatest of all the Primarchs, and in many respects he genuinely was. Some of his brothers may have had an edge in one particular specialty or another, but Horus was very often among the top 5 in any given category, a jack of all trades, master of most, if you will. As a tactician, only Corax or the Lion were in his league, with the Lion possibly being just slightly better. As a grand strategist, he was akin in skill to Dorn and Guilliman, with Guilliman likely taking the top spot by a small margin. As a logistician, only Perturabo or Guilliman were his match. As a diplomat, only Guilliman, Lorgar, and potentially Magnus were in his league. As a leader of men, only Sanguinius was possessed of similar charisma and nobility. All these traits and more combined to make Horus a virtually unmatched general, one who could fight, plan, improvise, inspire, and negotiate with the absolute best of them. In terms of compliances, he had the single greatest number of military victories under his belt out of all the Primarchs. Only Dorn, the Lion, and Guilliman were close, and only Guilliman had a greater number of total compliances (ones gained through diplomacy or some other non-military means). &lt;br /&gt;
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There was a flipside to his brilliance, however. While he was arguably the greatest conqueror out of the primarchs, he was not the type of person to leave a planet better than it was before. He had a tendency to destroy and then have legions such as the Ultramarines and Iron Warriors clean up his messes. While he was a magnificent diplomat and always felt that the primarchs should rule humanity, he never actually showed any interest in statesmanship. As a matter of fact, there is no hint that he ever governed a single planet. The primarch who conquered the most planets never stuck around to make something of his gains. He wanted to always be known as his father&#039;s favourite and then when he was given the warmaster position he started buckling under the pressure. In other words, he was the classic example of &amp;quot;wanting is better than having&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Horus Lupercal, in all his miniature [[Awesome|glory]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Horus:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 500 || 8 || 5 || 7 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 5+1 || 10 || 2+/3++&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is everything you love about an HQ wrapped up in one man. He is a very good tactical HQ allowing reserves to outflank, giving every Son of Horus +1 to Leadership and seizing the initiative on a 4+. He and any Terminator unit he has joined may elect which turn they arrive in and they will not scatter if they choose to Deep Strike (and he bestows the rule to the entire unit). He also makes veteran-tactical squads and Justaerin Terminators troops choices (if he is the Warlord... but then again when are you not going to make him your Warlord?).&lt;br /&gt;
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He is good at shooting with a BS of 5, night vision, a thing that gives - if he chooses to not fire during his turn - a single unit within 6&amp;quot; (other than super-heavy or Independent Characters) +1 BS, a twin-linked super-bolter, and an orbital bombardment using his BS (also twin-linked). And, finally, he is a monster in close combat, being able to take down full terminator squads in 1 turn if you roll well for his 6 attacks plus +D3 attacks if he is fighting a unit or character of weapon skill 4 or lower. He can rape blobs, MEQ&#039;s, TEQ&#039;s and HQ&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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His weapons are the Warmaster&#039;s Talon (an AP2 lightning claw which saddles whoever survives it with a -1 penalty to WS and S for every wound it inflicts that in theory can stack, ensuring that even if he doesn&#039;t kill what he&#039;s fighting, his target will be completely unable to harm him or anybody else in close combat), and a S10 AP1 master-crafted thunderhammer called Worldbreaker. Combine this with an initiative of 6, and he will strike first most of the time. He&#039;s also pretty durable with a toughness and wounds of 6, 2+ armor save, 3+ invulnerable save, 5+ deny the witch, and an additional 3+ save against any psychic attack or adverse profile modifications, which comes to play more often then you may think, given most other Primarchs are bristling with Concussive, Strikedown, Blind or some weirder stat-lowering shit. As in 30k destroyer weapons don&#039;t have a &amp;quot;deathblow&amp;quot; result, titan-killer weapons cannot one-shot him, but they still hurt a lot, and while Shadowsword cannot spam D-strength, Magnus definitely can, and the horrible abomination of cheese that is a Warlord-class battle titan could vomit out enough D to kill three Horuses in one turn, so don&#039;t get too cocky.&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is an absolute motherfucker, and can be thought of as everything a Chapter Master should be between his Orbital Bombardment and army buffs. Letting reserves Outflank makes crossing the board much easier. His Justaerinstar will make anything shit its pants. The Ld bonus patches his Legion&#039;s weak morale, and 4+ seize can make a huge difference. His Orbital Bombardment is also awesome. The multi-wound EWless models one finds in 30k will die, and you&#039;re likely to put vehicles out of commission.  Unfortunately this comes at a really steep fucking price (500 points!) so use him wisely.&lt;br /&gt;
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As this is said to represent him as he was during the Great Crusade and the start of the Horus Heresy, it is possible he may get an updated profile to represent him as he was when he got all Chaos&#039;d up. When or if that&#039;ll happen is anyone&#039;s guess, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus wins against any other Primarch except Leman Russ and super-charged Magnus. That&#039;s it. He beats ALMOST any other opponent he gets pitted against.&lt;br /&gt;
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No seriously, what did you expect? With WS 8, 6 Attacks with a S7 AP2 lightning claw that cripples whoever survives his onslaught or a MC S10 Thunder Hammer and 2+/3++ he can destroy almost any other Primarch relatively safely. He&#039;s clearly built to be the hardest dude around and his gear is borderline unfair. Disabling Strike is just disgusting and it&#039;s directly intended to make sure he stays the top dog no matter how [[Angron|angry]], [[Fulgrim|pretty]] or [[Perturabo|well]] [[Ferrus Manus|equipped]] anyone else is... [[Sanguinius|so long as he doesn&#039;t piss off the Angel]]. Ouch, that Talon really hurts. So, yeah, almost no one can actually fight 1 on 1 with the Warmaster, barring some incredibly lucky rolls. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;These are the old numbers on Leman Russ pre-FAQ:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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*Horus vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, Round 1: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves, and IWND brings it down 0.555&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus Round 2 and on: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.111&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Balenight): hits 4.667 times, wounds 3.502, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.834 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Helwinter): hits 4.861 times, wounds 4.051 times, 1.350 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.017 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Balenight): hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.667&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Helwinter): hits 4.190 times, wounds 3.492, 1.164 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.831 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sever Life: Being a pain in the ass to calculate, Sever Life will go off most of the time against Horus, but for the purposes of this mathhammer Sever Life&#039;s chance to not go off will be included in its average Wounds roll: &lt;br /&gt;
***Every time Leman Russ Attacks Horus (as he&#039;ll always manage to Wound him and it doesn&#039;t say it&#039;s triggered via unsaved Wounds) Horus takes an additional 1.091 Wounds, only 0.364 of which will make it through Horus&#039; save.&lt;br /&gt;
**Keeping Sever Life in mind and the fact that Leman Russ can split his attacks, the ideal way to split them (for round one and two anyway) would be: 2 Attacks with Balenight, 4/5 Attacks with Helfrost.  Here&#039;s what that looks like:&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack: hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.341 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds: hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.154 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
Leman&#039;s negative to hit modifier is brutal, basically negating Horus&#039; ability to do any damage, while Leman is still pounding him over the head.  As stated, this includes Sever Life and Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin.  The theoretical breakdown of the match would be:&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 1:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 6 Wounds, WS9, S6 + charge/Counter-Attack (2 attacks on Balenight, 5 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 4.326 Wounds: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 5.112 Wounds, WS9, S6 (2 attacks on Balenight, 4 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.839 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.001 Wounds (IWND puts him slightly above 5, but it can&#039;t regenerate his damaged characteristics), WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.006 Wounds (IWND): Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.557 Wounds, WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.84 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 4.446 Wounds (IWND), WS7, S4 (The Talon of Horus technically causes another unsaved wound here) (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.607 times, 0.536 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.637 Wounds (IWND): Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 3.558 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.28 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 2.67 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus is dead before IWND kicks in for him and so cannot strike back.&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematically, if Russ takes full advantage of Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin then Horus loses the fight in 7 rounds (4 game turns!) while Russ still has 2.67 Wounds left. Whoah.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do note that IWND messes up the math a little at face value for Talon of Horus.  Since Russ does not gain characteristics back that he lost because of Severing Strike, he&#039;ll appear to have fewer unsaved Wounds than he actually does.&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was based on Russ&#039; armour before it got nerfed, which before would make -2 to hits against by round two. Now it is only -1 for the entire battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Recalculations from Reddit by u/Fromageopain, showing Horus&#039; win:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Round 1 (Russ&#039;s turn, 7 attacks from charge. If turns are swapped, still 7 from Counter-Attack, but Horus makes IWND first)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [6 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 attacks with Balenight, 5 attacks with Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.912 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 3.2601 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.7833 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [4.222 Wounds, 6 Talon attacks]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2 (Horus&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [5.444 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 Balenight 4 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.201 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 2.668 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.586 wounds after saves and 1.253 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [2.969 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3 (Russ&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.555 Wounds, WS8, S5, 4 Balenight 2 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.5 times with Balenight and 1.375 times with Helwinter, wounds 1.111 times with Balenight and 1.407 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.203 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.766 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4 (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.111 Wounds, WS7, S4 (he is over 4 wounds thanks to IWND, but lost his characteristics since the talon wounded 4 times), 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times and add 1.091 for Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind), 0.669 wounds after saves and 0.335 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.430 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 times with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker. wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [2.687 Wounds, WS6, S3, 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times, add 1.091 with Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind again), 0.669 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, [0.761 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves. IWND brings this down to 1.09 wounds&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [1.596 Wounds (IWND), WS5, S2, 6 attacks on Helwinter (Str2 cannot hurt T6)]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves (not enough to actually kill Horus) and IWND will mean that Horus will actually heal more than Leman inflicts, resulting Horus gaining 0.139 wounds at the end of the turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.900 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [0.172 Wounds, WS4, S1, all attacks on Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.761 Wounds, gain +d3 attacks] and finish Leman...&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep in mind that these results are made considering that Sever Life will apply regardless of Horus successfully saving the wounds inflicted by Balenight which is greatly benefiting Russ and is probably not the way the rule is supposed to work. On a side note, if Sever Life only triggers when Horus suffers an unsaved wound from Balenight, then the fight is way more one sided in Horus&#039; favor because Leman would have to make more attacks using the sword in order to trigger Sever Life, losing damage since the axe hits harder than the sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Wolf-king also has a secret weapon: Wolves... yeah. Russ can choose to have both his dogs accompany him, both of which are characters. Thanks to how wound allocation and challenges work, Russ can force Horus to engage with the dogs instead of him for 2 whole rounds, making Horus use Worldbreaker to ID the dogs, since if he uses the Talon it&#039;ll take 3 wounds total to kill the dogs and he can tank the full Worldbreaker on himself to stop the other dog from dying too fast, which prevents his stats from dropping early. By that point there is a high probability Horus will be on his last couple wounds if not already dead when the attacks from the wolves are added in to augment Leman Russ. Meaning Horus will simply die even faster. Emperor&#039;s Executioner indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to HH6: Retribution, the Mechanicum has its primarch-like character. [[Anacharis Scoria]], lord of Xana and the first of the Dark Mechanicum used to be able to easily kill Horus thanks to a 3+ Invuln, Feel No Pain, and a weapon that wounds automatically and causes D3 wounds at AP2 per hit (making Horus&#039; talon worthless). This allowed him to kill Horus in 5 rounds, whereas Horus needed 6 to kill him in return. He also got nerfed in the same FAQ that nerfed Russ, so now Horus kills him too.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus Portrait.png|400px|thumb|right|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yul Brynner&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Lex Luthor&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jean-Luc Picard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Professor X pre-paralysis&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Vin Diesel&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Horus Lupercal, the Warmaster. Here shown prior to getting his Chaos on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|&#039;&#039;&#039;Let the galaxy burn.&#039;&#039;&#039;|Horus Lupercal, ruining everything for everyone for ever}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.|Satan in John Milton&#039;s &#039;&#039;Paradise Lost&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|[[Primarch|Angels]] are bright still, though the brightest [[Chaos|fell]].|William Shakespeare}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Horus *wah Daddy, I didn’t get enough hugs* Lupercal, The Breaker of Tyrants, The Warmaster, The Arch-Traitor, That Bald Cunt&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If_the_Emperor_had_a_Text-to-Speech_Device|FUCKING HORUS!]]&#039;&#039;&#039; was the [[Primarch]] of the [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion]], and the main figure in the event known as the [[Horus Heresy|Horus]] [[Heresy]] (this is NOT a dead giveaway. Oh no), who is generally known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;THE GUY WHO FUCK&#039;D IT ALL UP&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, [[Erebus |but not really really.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Horus-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|right|thumb|Young Horus in all his bald glory (looking weirdly like Benito Mussolini cross with a WWE wrestler).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Once the most favoured son of his father the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]], he began to resent his father&#039;s treatment of him and other Primarchs, and believing that the Emperor&#039;s secret plan was to become a god using his own Primarch sons as a tool (when in fact all this is [[Just as planned|due to the lies]] of a [[Lorgar|certain religious zealot]]), eventually turned to [[Chaos]]. If you really need to be told any of this, what in the actual fuck are you doing on /tg/ in the first place? This is such common knowledge, that the outlines of the Horus Heresy and every bad ass taking part in it, are more or less [[Dwarf Fortress|engraved]] in the mind of every /tg/ reader. Much like the Emperor being crippled and the Imperium devolving into a bureaucratic [[grimdark]] empire, the death of Horus and the placement of [[Abaddon]] as the most influential Chaos champion ever, turned the Traitor legions from a genocidal force bent on utter domination for the glory of Chaos into a Saturday-morning cartoon villain organization. Also his armour made him look like an egg. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is argued that Horus was not actually evil but possessed by the Chaos Gods or that he was a victim of [[Lorgar]], who is officially labeled as &amp;quot;The First Heretic.&amp;quot; However, he was still [[Eldrad|a massive dick]]. Hence the common saying in the post-Heresy Imperium: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Of all the mighty Primarchs, Horus sure was a dick.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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But long story short, the Imperium got into this fucked up state because this guy had daddy issues (honestly, who didn&#039;t?), he got scammed by [[Erebus|religious nutjobs]], and [[Grimdark|because the Chaos Gods showed him horrific visions of the future, supposedly under the Emperor&#039;s rule]], all while conveniently leaving out the fact that it would be his own efforts to avert said future that would cause it in the first place. Lol-irony. They did show him that the Emperor was planning to discard him and the other rest of the Space Marines when their usefulness ended, and in fairness, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; was actually completely true as Master of Mankind shows and which totally contradicts previous Horus Heresy novels where the chambers the primarchs were supposed to live in once the Crusade ended were depicted. Why would you build large apartments for your &amp;quot;sons&amp;quot; if you really did not give a rat&#039;s ass about them? Or was the EMPRA intending on luring them into their respective apartment and then strangle them to death? Why go through all the effort when his psychic might was enough to force Lorgar to kneel (causing a small brain hemorrhage as evidenced by blood tricking out of his nose. See &amp;quot;The First Heretic)? He could have just BLAMMED them all Thunder Warrior style with all his psychic prowess and shit. Either way, you know what they say- the best lies contain a grain of truth. The Chaos Gods did show Horus the future he would create which seemed to prove that the EMPRA had planned his own ascension all along (so he obviously must enjoy to be chilling on the couch as a decomposing corpse these days).&lt;br /&gt;
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It also doesn&#039;t help that there&#039;s prior precedence provided by Malcador committing damnatio memoriae on the [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|11th and 2nd Primarchs]], a conspiracy which was first uncovered during its development by [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]] and brought to the attention of the Warmaster himself, leading to a confrontation between [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]], Horus, [[Jaghatai Khan]] &amp;amp; [[Malcador the Sigillite]] on [[Terra]]. After calling each other [[that guy|ambitious freeloaders]], Horus threatened Malcador&#039;s life, to which the Sigillite said if they didn&#039;t like the erasure of the recently lost legion, they could shove that &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;precious&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; vainglorious memory of theirs where the sun don&#039;t shine. When Horus tried to speak his dead brother&#039;s name as an act of defiance, Malcador froze his brain &amp;amp; had to be talked down from sploding his grey matter all over the room by Jaghatai &amp;amp; [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]]. When he got back up, [[RAGE|Horus flipped a table and gave Malcador the bird when he had his back turned]], effectively planting the seed of resentment &amp;amp; pouring boiling piss over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is during this confrontation that it&#039;s revealed that Horus had always disagreed with the idea of standard humans ruling over themselves &amp;amp; believed that since it was he, the other Primarchs and their Astartes who conquered the stars, that it should be themselves who rule over the compliant planets; rather than this opinion being implanted by the ruinous powers, it was merely exacerbated. His low opinion on mortals probably isn&#039;t helped by the fact that the conspiracy to condemn the memory of his [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|lost brothers]] was concocted by baseline noble humans (there was even a noble present from House Carpinus by the name of [[Dune|Na-Baron]] Petronius Vivar at the confrontation with Malcador). Evidently, the other traitor Primarchs thought much the same when he revealed to them that it was the Emperor&#039;s plan to give the right to govern these planets to standard humans of noble houses, only to then discard the Primarchs and the remaining 18 legions ([[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|2nd and 11th style]]) once their stated purpose had been fulfilled. How this plan exactly meshes with putting Magnus on the Golden Throne to manage the Webway for Him is unknown, but we suspect it involves strapping an explosive collar around his neck that would detonate should he decide to peel his red ass off the chair. No bathroom breaks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way though, the Emperor psychically nuking of Horus&#039; body and soul means Horus is gone as fuck now, occasional Fabius Bile cloning shenanigans notwithstanding, and Horus&#039; influence of modern 40K will remain posthumous.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, 40K(30K?) Horus has more of an reverse connection to his Egyptian god namesake, given the Egyptian Horus heroically took to the throne of the gods from a usurper while 40K Horus is instead the failed usurper.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New fluff==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|600px|thumb|right|If this reminds you of every Baroque and/or Christianity-related painting from the Renaissance up until the 19th Century, good. Also note how the Custodes are Dark Silver and wearing Pickelhauben (That&#039;s because these are Sagittarum Guard).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Recent fluff from the book &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039; has Horus visiting the same gate to the Warp on Molech that the [[Emperor]] used to get some of his powers. While only seconds pass in the Materium, Horus spends what is basically implied to be an eternity inside the Warp battling rival Daemon Princes, amassing billions of warp-creature minions, and wrecking shit. In the end he somehow gains the same powers that the Emperor received to create the Primarchs, but Horus gets them in a &amp;quot;legit&amp;quot; way (as far as the Ruinous Powers are concerned) by passing their near constant tests through sheer force of will, where the Emperor just took what he wanted. Refusing to become a slave to the Ruinous Powers (or perhaps that&#039;s what the Chaos Gods wanted him to think) he leaves his Warp-empire to return to his rebellion in the Materium. Horus&#039; time inside the Warp was so long that he, a fully grown Primarch, had visibly aged. However with his new psychic hack abilities he disguises his over-the-hill face and still maintains his youthful appearance. Apparently the Emperor does the same trick. This was basically a big retcon by Black Library who previously explained Horus being able to fight toe-to-toe with the Big E as having all four Chaos Gods channel their powers into him at once. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s important to explore this clusterfuck of nonsense to make sense of the lore before one comes to the rubbish conclusion that the Emperor only became god-like after Molech. This is balls-deep nonsense. This is what Horus (who is himself not in any way whatsoever a good source for reliable information regarding Chaos) thinks he knows from his own narrow/skewed/manipulated point of view. The more commonly held belief is that, as with the vision he received from the [[Erebus|Great Fuckhead Himself]], he was misled. That the Emperor, a being capable of trapping and fighting a C&#039;Tan (that as it turned out had been tired out prior by another warp entity... oops) during the Middle Ages, was always as powerful as He has been portrayed. It is explained that the Primarchs are more than just flesh and bone, and that each of them has a fraction of His personality in them that they themselves embody. [[Ferrus Manus]]&#039; rather dramatic death highlights that inside Primarchs lies a great deal of energy. Now to the heart of it - Molech. Why would a being as powerful as the Emperor, who has to combat 4 monstrously powerful otherworldly entities whilst maintaining a beacon anywhere he goes, soul bound psykers and fight throughout the Great Crusade, split His formidable power 20 times into 20 beings? He wouldn&#039;t, he&#039;d grab extra power to do so. That was Molech - a source and gateway to a wellspring of power claimed by Chaos for its use alone. A source the Emperor broke into and stole/took/tricked for His Primarch Project. Using the additional power, He crafted, with His scientific mastery, 20 genetically engineered super hosts. In the same way that god-aligned daemons are formed by splitting a portion off the God itself, He used each portion of power as a blank mold, investing them with a sliver of His personality and allowing the power to coalesce around it to form a soul/Emperor-Greater Daemon. That pseudo-daemon is then implanted in a host that can never die or degrade due to age, perfectly tailored to hold it. This explains why each Primarch radiates an aura of awe and magnificence. Horus didn&#039;t become as powerful as the Emperor, he retrieved the power that made himself and all his brothers and had it infused into himself. While it appears he has lost a significant chunk of this power (and a piece of his soul) after his duel with Leman Russ in the [[Battle of Trisolian]], the Ruinous Powers soon after began to mainline him with warp energy to the point where he began to bulge at the seams, so by the onset of the [[Siege of Terra]] he resembled something in between walking cancerous tumor growth amalgamation and juicing steroid junkie. Whether or not he will manage to be a match for the Emperor as yet remains to be seen. That said, we know who won the duel. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the duel with Russ, Horus suddenly entered a near coma, throwing the legion into disarray. Maloghurst later entered the Realm of Chaos and found that a part of Horus&#039;s soul - an uncorrupted part - was still trapped in the Warp. That part of his soul was suffering from the effects of Russ&#039;s spear, leading to the material Horus falling unconcious. The fragment expressed remorse over it&#039;s actions, as well as a morbid clarity that his rebellion was just part of the Gods plan and he had been manipulated into doing so. Left with no other option, Maloghurst destroyed the fragment at the cost of his own life, releasing Horus from his coma and giving him total control over the powers granted by the Chaos Gods, as well as leaving him utterly without doubt in his actions (however delusional they may actually have been).&lt;br /&gt;
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In Path of Heaven he appears in all his pomp and Chaotic corruption to assign Mortarion to kill Jaghatai Khan, explain that all his other generals have gone doolally and wax lyrical about killing the Emperor, as well as make the point that being &#039;roided up by the raw stuff of the Empyrean doesn&#039;t get you out of having to manage the logistics of a galactic civil war. Soon after, Mortarion kills his Navigators in a fit of rage and makes the dumbass decision to go into the warp anyway. In other words, Horus was the only one of his brothers who had his shit together, which was why the Horus Heresy fell apart so quickly after his death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Newest fluff heavily suggests that Chaos Gods&#039; plan from the very beginning was for Horus to lose, but only barely. Apparently the Gods knew about the [[Cabal]]&#039;s plans and made sure they would get the outcome of a fucked up Imperium that lasts for millennia, feeding them with all the negative emotions they needed, rather than an Imperium of Chaos which would go to shit in a few centuries of infighting, taking humanity and gods themselves with it. It does make sense that at least Khorne and Nurgle would appreciate a bloody and decaying Imperium. One daemon even referred to Horus as &amp;quot;sacrificial lamb&amp;quot; needed to stop the Imperium from turning into a prosperous empire of reason, and kickstart the [[Long War]]. (Though Eldrad disagrees and John Grammaticus has seen Horus actually won the Heresy and Chaos was not only fine but enjoying the aftermath) The Emperor may have developed a counter-plan that caused the Chaos Gods to scream in frustration in &#039;&#039;The Outcast Dead&#039;&#039; but that book is fairly trippy. Later still, Lorgar hinted that the Chaos Gods were displeased with the Warmaster&#039;s unwillingness to become a slave to Chaos and that his ultimate defeat in the duel with the Emperor would be a punishment for his refusal to surrender his will to them. By the time of the Siege of Terra, his body and mind were outright falling apart as the Chaos Gods&#039; power was becoming too much to handle, forcing Abaddon to do much of the actual work in leading the Traitor Legions. &lt;br /&gt;
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Long after the Scouring, Fabius Bile succeeded in creating a stable clone of a pre-Molech Horus, who utterly wrecked a huge boarding party of traitor marines before being fucking impaled through the chest with his own talon by Abbadon. The clone was capable of speech and seemed to possess a semblance of memory from its twin brother&#039;s past (calling Abbadon its &amp;quot;son&amp;quot;, just before being turned into a kebab). It&#039;s unknown why it was so hostile to other Astartes or what degree of control Fabius had over it. Several prominent marines were adamant that such an abomination (cloned Astartes apparently being the closest thing to taboo you can get for even a traitor marine) would not be Horus in any way, because his soul was annihilated by the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Good Guy Horus==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s often forgotten by fans that before he was corrupted and decieved by [[Erebus]] and [[Lorgar]], Horus was a genuinely nice guy, he could even be found regularly posting on the r/niceguys subreddit. Fans are quick to joke about &amp;quot;that dick Horus,&amp;quot; but before [[Heresy|Things Went Wrong]] he was one of the most personable, down to earth primarchs. Yeah, part of the reason people fell for him so easily was that he shared the Emperor&#039;s psychic magnetism, but he also went out of his way to be friendly and considerate of custom, if not necessarily polite. Granted, at times he had arrogance to match [[Magnus]] and choler to match [[Angron]], but despite that he always made effort to honor those under his command, mortal and astartes alike. [[Konrad Curze|While]] [[Angron|many]] [[Mortarion|other]] [[Perturabo|primarchs]] saw their warriors as little more than tools, or [[Fulgrim|were]] [[Ferrus Manus|aloof]] and [[Corvus Corax|unapproachable]], Horus was a true father to his sons, guiding and shaping them personally. To most legions it would be unimaginable for the primarch to personally seek out and comfort a legionary during a time of crisis, but for the Luna Wolves, it was obvious. He was no saint or coddler, as we see him encourage rivalries within and between his legion and others, but in doing so he brought strength and glory. Even when dealing with outsiders, he always attempted diplomacy before making war, something even his gentler brothers cannot say. In fact, one of the primary reasons why Horus was named Warmaster over other candidates like Guilliman, the Lion, or even Sanguinius was that he was such a people person. He was friends with nearly all of his brothers and was superhumanly savvy when it came to knowing how to talk to people. In this same vein, he was also a master manipulator, and routinely used his savvy to get people, even people who didn&#039;t agree with him, to do what he wanted. He was in fact so good at this this he had the ability to change his personality and demeanor to suit particular situations, appearing a slightly different person to others based on what he thought would get him the best results. He got along famously with all of his brothers save one; even total psychos like Angron and Konrad Curze just couldn&#039;t help but love the guy. The only brother of his who didn&#039;t like him was Corax, which was due to the newly-initiated Warmaster somewhat clumsily trying to exert his authority over Corax and getting a bunch of Raven Guard killed unnecessarily. Horus was a cunning, brutal, supremely confident warlord with a huge cock (what) who nonetheless took great pains to make sure his warriors and mortal retainers were treated well, and furthermore, from the very few pre-Davin POV scenes we get, we know he &#039;&#039;actually believed&#039;&#039; others deserved to be treated well, it wasn&#039;t simply [[Fulgrim|feigned politeness]] or [[Roboute Guilliman|a calculated display of regard]]. Then fucking [[Erebus]] happened.  Even his edgy rebellion and fall to Chaos was due to his honest love of people.  He&#039;s basically 40k&#039;s version of Arthas Menethil.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Capabilities==&lt;br /&gt;
It has often been said that Horus was the single greatest of all the Primarchs, and in many respects he genuinely was. Some of his brothers may have had an edge in one particular specialty or another, but Horus was very often among the top 5 in any given category, a jack of all trades, master of most, if you will. As a tactician, only Corax or the Lion were in his league, with the Lion possibly being just slightly better. As a grand strategist, he was akin in skill to Dorn and Guilliman, with Guilliman likely taking the top spot by a small margin. As a logistician, only Perturabo or Guilliman were his match. As a diplomat, only Guilliman, Lorgar, and potentially Magnus were in his league. As a leader of men, only Sanguinius was possessed of similar charisma and nobility. All these traits and more combined to make Horus a virtually unmatched general, one who could fight, plan, improvise, inspire, and negotiate with the absolute best of them. In terms of compliances, he had the single greatest number of military victories under his belt out of all the Primarchs. Only Dorn, the Lion, and Guilliman were close, and only Guilliman had a greater number of total compliances (ones gained through diplomacy or some other non-military means). &lt;br /&gt;
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There was a flipside to his brilliance, however. While he was arguably the greatest conqueror out of the primarchs, he was not the type of person to leave a planet better than it was before. He had a tendency to destroy and then have legions such as the Ultramarines and Iron Warriors clean up his messes. While he was a magnificent diplomat and always felt that the primarchs should rule humanity, he never actually showed any interest in statesmanship. As a matter of fact, there is no hint that he ever governed a single planet. The man who conquered the most planets never stuck around to make something of his gains. He wanted to always be known as his father&#039;s favourite and then when he was given the warmaster position he started buckling under the pressure. In other words, he was the classic example of &amp;quot;wanting is better than having&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Horus Lupercal, in all his miniature [[Awesome|glory]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is everything you love about an HQ wrapped up in one man. He is a very good tactical HQ allowing reserves to outflank, giving every Son of Horus +1 to Leadership and seizing the initiative on a 4+. He and any Terminator unit he has joined may elect which turn they arrive in and they will not scatter if they choose to Deep Strike (and he bestows the rule to the entire unit). He also makes veteran-tactical squads and Justaerin Terminators troops choices (if he is the Warlord... but then again when are you not going to make him your Warlord?).&lt;br /&gt;
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He is good at shooting with a BS of 5, night vision, a thing that gives - if he chooses to not fire during his turn - a single unit within 6&amp;quot; (other than super-heavy or Independent Characters) +1 BS, a twin-linked super-bolter, and an orbital bombardment using his BS (also twin-linked). And, finally, he is a monster in close combat, being able to take down full terminator squads in 1 turn if you roll well for his 6 attacks plus +D3 attacks if he is fighting a unit or character of weapon skill 4 or lower. He can rape blobs, MEQ&#039;s, TEQ&#039;s and HQ&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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His weapons are the Warmaster&#039;s Talon (an AP2 lightning claw which saddles whoever survives it with a -1 penalty to WS and S for every wound it inflicts that in theory can stack, ensuring that even if he doesn&#039;t kill what he&#039;s fighting, his target will be completely unable to harm him or anybody else in close combat), and a S10 AP1 master-crafted thunderhammer called Worldbreaker. Combine this with an initiative of 6, and he will strike first most of the time. He&#039;s also pretty durable with a toughness and wounds of 6, 2+ armor save, 3+ invulnerable save, 5+ deny the witch, and an additional 3+ save against any psychic attack or adverse profile modifications, which comes to play more often then you may think, given most other Primarchs are bristling with Concussive, Strikedown, Blind or some weirder stat-lowering shit. As in 30k destroyer weapons don&#039;t have a &amp;quot;deathblow&amp;quot; result, titan-killer weapons cannot one-shot him, but they still hurt a lot, and while Shadowsword cannot spam D-strength, Magnus definitely can, and the horrible abomination of cheese that is a Warlord-class battle titan could vomit out enough D to kill three Horuses in one turn, so don&#039;t get too cocky.&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is an absolute motherfucker, and can be thought of as everything a Chapter Master should be between his Orbital Bombardment and army buffs. Letting reserves Outflank makes crossing the board much easier. His Justaerinstar will make anything shit its pants. The Ld bonus patches his Legion&#039;s weak morale, and 4+ seize can make a huge difference. His Orbital Bombardment is also awesome. The multi-wound EWless models one finds in 30k will die, and you&#039;re likely to put vehicles out of commission.  Unfortunately this comes at a really steep fucking price (500 points!) so use him wisely.&lt;br /&gt;
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As this is said to represent him as he was during the Great Crusade and the start of the Horus Heresy, it is possible he may get an updated profile to represent him as he was when he got all Chaos&#039;d up. When or if that&#039;ll happen is anyone&#039;s guess, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus wins against any other Primarch except Leman Russ and super-charged Magnus. That&#039;s it. He beats ALMOST any other opponent he gets pitted against.&lt;br /&gt;
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No seriously, what did you expect? With WS 8, 6 Attacks with a S7 AP2 lightning claw that cripples whoever survives his onslaught or a MC S10 Thunder Hammer and 2+/3++ he can destroy almost any other Primarch relatively safely. He&#039;s clearly built to be the hardest dude around and his gear is borderline unfair. Disabling Strike is just disgusting and it&#039;s directly intended to make sure he stays the top dog no matter how [[Angron|angry]], [[Fulgrim|pretty]] or [[Perturabo|well]] [[Ferrus Manus|equipped]] anyone else is... [[Sanguinius|so long as he doesn&#039;t piss off the Angel]]. Ouch, that Talon really hurts. So, yeah, almost no one can actually fight 1 on 1 with the Warmaster, barring some incredibly lucky rolls. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;These are the old numbers on Leman Russ pre-FAQ:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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*Horus vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, Round 1: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves, and IWND brings it down 0.555&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus Round 2 and on: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.111&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Balenight): hits 4.667 times, wounds 3.502, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.834 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Helwinter): hits 4.861 times, wounds 4.051 times, 1.350 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.017 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Balenight): hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.667&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Helwinter): hits 4.190 times, wounds 3.492, 1.164 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.831 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sever Life: Being a pain in the ass to calculate, Sever Life will go off most of the time against Horus, but for the purposes of this mathhammer Sever Life&#039;s chance to not go off will be included in its average Wounds roll: &lt;br /&gt;
***Every time Leman Russ Attacks Horus (as he&#039;ll always manage to Wound him and it doesn&#039;t say it&#039;s triggered via unsaved Wounds) Horus takes an additional 1.091 Wounds, only 0.364 of which will make it through Horus&#039; save.&lt;br /&gt;
**Keeping Sever Life in mind and the fact that Leman Russ can split his attacks, the ideal way to split them (for round one and two anyway) would be: 2 Attacks with Balenight, 4/5 Attacks with Helfrost.  Here&#039;s what that looks like:&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack: hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.341 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds: hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.154 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
Leman&#039;s negative to hit modifier is brutal, basically negating Horus&#039; ability to do any damage, while Leman is still pounding him over the head.  As stated, this includes Sever Life and Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin.  The theoretical breakdown of the match would be:&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 1:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 6 Wounds, WS9, S6 + charge/Counter-Attack (2 attacks on Balenight, 5 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 4.326 Wounds: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.112 Wounds, WS9, S6 (2 attacks on Balenight, 4 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.839 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.001 Wounds (IWND puts him slightly above 5, but it can&#039;t regenerate his damaged characteristics), WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.006 Wounds (IWND): Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.557 Wounds, WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.84 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.446 Wounds (IWND), WS7, S4 (The Talon of Horus technically causes another unsaved wound here) (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.607 times, 0.536 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.637 Wounds (IWND): Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: &lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 3.558 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.28 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: &lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 2.67 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus is dead before IWND kicks in for him and so cannot strike back.&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematically, if Russ takes full advantage of Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin then Horus loses the fight in 7 rounds (4 game turns!) while Russ still has 2.67 Wounds left. Whoah.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do note that IWND messes up the math a little at face value for Talon of Horus.  Since Russ does not gain characteristics back that he lost because of Severing Strike, he&#039;ll appear to have fewer unsaved Wounds than he actually does.&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was based on Russ&#039; armour before it got nerfed, which before would make -2 to hits against by round two. Now it is only -1 for the entire battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Recalculations from Reddit by u/Fromageopain, showing Horus&#039; win:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Round 1 (Russ&#039;s turn, 7 attacks from charge. If turns are swapped, still 7 from Counter-Attack, but Horus makes IWND first)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [6 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 attacks with Balenight, 5 attacks with Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.912 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 3.2601 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.7833 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [4.222 Wounds, 6 Talon attacks]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2 (Horus&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [5.444 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 Balenight 4 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.201 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 2.668 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.586 wounds after saves and 1.253 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [2.969 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3 (Russ&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.555 Wounds, WS8, S5, 4 Balenight 2 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.5 times with Balenight and 1.375 times with Helwinter, wounds 1.111 times with Balenight and 1.407 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.203 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.766 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4 (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.111 Wounds, WS7, S4 (he is over 4 wounds thanks to IWND, but lost his characteristics since the talon wounded 4 times), 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times and add 1.091 for Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind), 0.669 wounds after saves and 0.335 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.430 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 times with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker. wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [2.687 Wounds, WS6, S3, 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times, add 1.091 with Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind again), 0.669 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, [0.761 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves. IWND brings this down to 1.09 wounds&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [1.596 Wounds (IWND), WS5, S2, 6 attacks on Helwinter (Str2 cannot hurt T6)]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves (not enough to actually kill Horus) and IWND will mean that Horus will actually heal more than Leman inflicts, resulting Horus gaining 0.139 wounds at the end of the turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.900 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [0.172 Wounds, WS4, S1, all attacks on Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.761 Wounds, gain +d3 attacks] and finish Leman...&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep in mind that these results are made considering that Sever Life will apply regardless of Horus successfully saving the wounds inflicted by Balenight which is greatly benefiting Russ and is probably not the way the rule is supposed to work. On a side note, if Sever Life only triggers when Horus suffers an unsaved wound from Balenight, then the fight is way more one sided in Horus&#039; favor because Leman would have to make more attacks using the sword in order to trigger Sever Life, losing damage since the axe hits harder than the sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Wolf-king also has a secret weapon: Wolves... yeah. Russ can choose to have both his dogs accompany him, both of which are characters. Thanks to how wound allocation and challenges work, Russ can force Horus to engage with the dogs instead of him for 2 whole rounds, making Horus use Worldbreaker to ID the dogs, since if he uses the Talon it&#039;ll take 3 wounds total to kill the dogs and he can tank the full Worldbreaker on himself to stop the other dog from dying too fast, which prevents his stats from dropping early. By that point there is a high probability Horus will be on his last couple wounds if not already dead when the attacks from the wolves are added in to augment Leman Russ. Meaning Horus will simply die even faster. Emperor&#039;s Executioner indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to HH6: Retribution, the Mechanicum has its primarch-like character. [[Anacharis Scoria]], lord of Xana and the first of the Dark Mechanicum used to be able to easily kill Horus thanks to a 3+ Invuln, Feel No Pain, and a weapon that wounds automatically and causes D3 wounds at AP2 per hit (making Horus&#039; talon worthless). This allowed him to kill Horus in 5 rounds, whereas Horus needed 6 to kill him in return. He also got nerfed in the same FAQ that nerfed Russ, so now Horus kills him too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Horus vs Leman.jpg| Ah too many wolves.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus Portrait.png|400px|thumb|right|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yul Brynner&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Lex Luthor&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jean-Luc Picard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Professor X pre-paralysis&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Vin Diesel&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Horus Lupercal, the Warmaster. Here shown prior to getting his Chaos on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|&#039;&#039;&#039;Let the galaxy burn.&#039;&#039;&#039;|Horus Lupercal, ruining everything for everyone for ever}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.|Satan in John Milton&#039;s &#039;&#039;Paradise Lost&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|[[Primarch|Angels]] are bright still, though the brightest [[Chaos|fell]].|William Shakespeare}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Horus *wah Daddy, I didn’t get enough hugs* Lupercal, The Breaker of Tyrants, The Warmaster, The Arch-Traitor, That Bald Cunt&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If_the_Emperor_had_a_Text-to-Speech_Device|FUCKING HORUS!]]&#039;&#039;&#039; was the [[Primarch]] of the [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion]], and the main figure in the event known as the [[Horus Heresy|Horus]] [[Heresy]] (this is NOT a dead giveaway. Oh no), who is generally known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;THE GUY WHO FUCK&#039;D IT ALL UP&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, [[Erebus |but not really really.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Horus-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|right|thumb|Young Horus in all his bald glory (looking weirdly like Benito Mussolini cross with a WWE wrestler).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Once the most favoured son of his father the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]], he began to resent his father&#039;s treatment of him and other Primarchs, and believing that the Emperor&#039;s secret plan was to become a god using his own Primarch sons as a tool (when in fact all this is [[Just as planned|due to the lies]] of a [[Lorgar|certain religious zealot]]), eventually turned to [[Chaos]]. If you really need to be told any of this, what in the actual fuck are you doing on /tg/ in the first place? This is such common knowledge, that the outlines of the Horus Heresy and every bad ass taking part in it, are more or less [[Dwarf Fortress|engraved]] in the mind of every /tg/ reader. Much like the Emperor being crippled and the Imperium devolving into a bureaucratic [[grimdark]] empire, the death of Horus and the placement of [[Abaddon]] as the most influential Chaos champion ever, turned the Traitor legions from a genocidal force bent on utter domination for the glory of Chaos into a Saturday-morning cartoon villain organization. Also his armour made him look like an egg. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is argued that Horus was not actually evil but possessed by the Chaos Gods or that he was a victim of [[Lorgar]], who is officially labeled as &amp;quot;The First Heretic.&amp;quot; However, he was still [[Eldrad|a massive dick]]. Hence the common saying in the post-Heresy Imperium: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Of all the mighty Primarchs, Horus sure was a dick.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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But long story short, the Imperium got into this fucked up state because this guy had daddy issues (honestly, who didn&#039;t?), he got scammed by [[Erebus|religious nutjobs]], and [[Grimdark|because the Chaos Gods showed him horrific visions of the future, supposedly under the Emperor&#039;s rule]], all while conveniently leaving out the fact that it would be his own efforts to avert said future that would cause it in the first place. Lol-irony. They did show him that the Emperor was planning to discard him and the other rest of the Space Marines when their usefulness ended, and in fairness, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; was actually completely true as Master of Mankind shows and which totally contradicts previous Horus Heresy novels where the chambers the primarchs were supposed to live in once the Crusade ended were depicted. Why would you build large apartments for your &amp;quot;sons&amp;quot; if you really did not give a rat&#039;s ass about them? Or was the EMPRA intending on luring them into their respective apartment and then strangle them to death? Why go through all the effort when his psychic might was enough to force Lorgar to kneel (causing a small brain hemorrhage as evidenced by blood tricking out of his nose. See &amp;quot;The First Heretic)? He could have just BLAMMED them all Thunder Warrior style with all his psychic prowess and shit. Either way, you know what they say- the best lies contain a grain of truth. The Chaos Gods did show Horus the future he would create which seemed to prove that the EMPRA had planned his own ascension all along (so he obviously must enjoy to be chilling on the couch as a decomposing corpse these days).&lt;br /&gt;
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It also doesn&#039;t help that there&#039;s prior precedence provided by Malcador committing damnatio memoriae on the [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|11th and 2nd Primarchs]], a conspiracy which was first uncovered during its development by [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]] and brought to the attention of the Warmaster himself, leading to a confrontation between [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]], Horus, [[Jaghatai Khan]] &amp;amp; [[Malcador the Sigillite]] on [[Terra]]. After calling each other [[that guy|ambitious freeloaders]], Horus threatened Malcador&#039;s life, to which the Sigillite said if they didn&#039;t like the erasure of the recently lost legion, they could shove that &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;precious&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; vainglorious memory of theirs where the sun don&#039;t shine. When Horus tried to speak his dead brother&#039;s name as an act of defiance, Malcador froze his brain &amp;amp; had to be talked down from sploding his grey matter all over the room by Jaghatai &amp;amp; [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]]. When he got back up, [[RAGE|Horus flipped a table and gave Malcador the bird when he had his back turned]], effectively planting the seed of resentment &amp;amp; pouring boiling piss over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is during this confrontation that it&#039;s revealed that Horus had always disagreed with the idea of standard humans ruling over themselves &amp;amp; believed that since it was he, the other Primarchs and their Astartes who conquered the stars, that it should be themselves who rule over the compliant planets; rather than this opinion being implanted by the ruinous powers, it was merely exacerbated. His low opinion on mortals probably isn&#039;t helped by the fact that the conspiracy to condemn the memory of his [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|lost brothers]] was concocted by baseline noble humans (there was even a noble present from House Carpinus by the name of [[Dune|Na-Baron]] Petronius Vivar at the confrontation with Malcador). Evidently, the other traitor Primarchs thought much the same when he revealed to them that it was the Emperor&#039;s plan to give the right to govern these planets to standard humans of noble houses, only to then discard the Primarchs and the remaining 18 legions ([[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|2nd and 11th style]]) once their stated purpose had been fulfilled. How this plan exactly meshes with putting Magnus on the Golden Throne to manage the Webway for Him is unknown, but we suspect it involves strapping an explosive collar around his neck that would detonate should he decide to peel his red ass off the chair. No bathroom breaks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way though, the Emperor psychically nuking of Horus&#039; body and soul means Horus is gone as fuck now, occasional Fabius Bile cloning shenanigans notwithstanding, and Horus&#039; influence of modern 40K will remain posthumous.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, 40K(30K?) Horus has more of an reverse connection to his Egyptian god namesake, given the Egyptian Horus heroically took to the throne of the gods from a usurper while 40K Horus is instead the failed usurper.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New fluff==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|600px|thumb|right|If this reminds you of every Baroque and/or Christianity-related painting from the Renaissance up until the 19th Century, good. Also note how the Custodes are Dark Silver and wearing Pickelhauben (That&#039;s because these are Sagittarum Guard).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Recent fluff from the book &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039; has Horus visiting the same gate to the Warp on Molech that the [[Emperor]] used to get some of his powers. While only seconds pass in the Materium, Horus spends what is basically implied to be an eternity inside the Warp battling rival Daemon Princes, amassing billions of warp-creature minions, and wrecking shit. In the end he somehow gains the same powers that the Emperor received to create the Primarchs, but Horus gets them in a &amp;quot;legit&amp;quot; way (as far as the Ruinous Powers are concerned) by passing their near constant tests through sheer force of will, where the Emperor just took what he wanted. Refusing to become a slave to the Ruinous Powers (or perhaps that&#039;s what the Chaos Gods wanted him to think) he leaves his Warp-empire to return to his rebellion in the Materium. Horus&#039; time inside the Warp was so long that he, a fully grown Primarch, had visibly aged. However with his new psychic hack abilities he disguises his over-the-hill face and still maintains his youthful appearance. Apparently the Emperor does the same trick. This was basically a big retcon by Black Library who previously explained Horus being able to fight toe-to-toe with the Big E as having all four Chaos Gods channel their powers into him at once. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s important to explore this clusterfuck of nonsense to make sense of the lore before one comes to the rubbish conclusion that the Emperor only became god-like after Molech. This is balls-deep nonsense. This is what Horus (who is himself not in any way whatsoever a good source for reliable information regarding Chaos) thinks he knows from his own narrow/skewed/manipulated point of view. The more commonly held belief is that, as with the vision he received from the [[Erebus|Great Fuckhead Himself]], he was misled. That the Emperor, a being capable of trapping and fighting a C&#039;Tan (that as it turned out had been tired out prior by another warp entity... oops) during the Middle Ages, was always as powerful as He has been portrayed. It is explained that the Primarchs are more than just flesh and bone, and that each of them has a fraction of His personality in them that they themselves embody. [[Ferrus Manus]]&#039; rather dramatic death highlights that inside Primarchs lies a great deal of energy. Now to the heart of it - Molech. Why would a being as powerful as the Emperor, who has to combat 4 monstrously powerful otherworldly entities whilst maintaining a beacon anywhere he goes, soul bound psykers and fight throughout the Great Crusade, split His formidable power 20 times into 20 beings? He wouldn&#039;t, he&#039;d grab extra power to do so. That was Molech - a source and gateway to a wellspring of power claimed by Chaos for its use alone. A source the Emperor broke into and stole/took/tricked for His Primarch Project. Using the additional power, He crafted, with His scientific mastery, 20 genetically engineered super hosts. In the same way that god-aligned daemons are formed by splitting a portion off the God itself, He used each portion of power as a blank mold, investing them with a sliver of His personality and allowing the power to coalesce around it to form a soul/Emperor-Greater Daemon. That pseudo-daemon is then implanted in a host that can never die or degrade due to age, perfectly tailored to hold it. This explains why each Primarch radiates an aura of awe and magnificence. Horus didn&#039;t become as powerful as the Emperor, he retrieved the power that made himself and all his brothers and had it infused into himself. While it appears he has lost a significant chunk of this power (and a piece of his soul) after his duel with Leman Russ in the [[Battle of Trisolian]], the Ruinous Powers soon after began to mainline him with warp energy to the point where he began to bulge at the seams, so by the onset of the [[Siege of Terra]] he resembled something in between walking cancerous tumor growth amalgamation and juicing steroid junkie. Whether or not he will manage to be a match for the Emperor as yet remains to be seen. That said, we know who won the duel. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the duel with Russ, Horus suddenly entered a near coma, throwing the legion into disarray. Maloghurst later entered the Realm of Chaos and found that a part of Horus&#039;s soul - an uncorrupted part - was still trapped in the Warp. That part of his soul was suffering from the effects of Russ&#039;s spear, leading to the material Horus falling unconcious. The fragment expressed remorse over it&#039;s actions, as well as a morbid clarity that his rebellion was just part of the Gods plan and he had been manipulated into doing so. Left with no other option, Maloghurst destroyed the fragment at the cost of his own life, releasing Horus from his coma and giving him total control over the powers granted by the Chaos Gods, as well as leaving him utterly without doubt in his actions (however delusional they may actually have been).&lt;br /&gt;
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In Path of Heaven he appears in all his pomp and Chaotic corruption to assign Mortarion to kill Jaghatai Khan, explain that all his other generals have gone doolally and wax lyrical about killing the Emperor, as well as make the point that being &#039;roided up by the raw stuff of the Empyrean doesn&#039;t get you out of having to manage the logistics of a galactic civil war. Soon after, Mortarion kills his Navigators in a fit of rage and makes the dumbass decision to go into the warp anyway. In other words, Horus was the only one of his brothers who had his shit together, which was why the Horus Heresy fell apart so quickly after his death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Newest fluff heavily suggests that Chaos Gods&#039; plan from the very beginning was for Horus to lose, but only barely. Apparently the Gods knew about the [[Cabal]]&#039;s plans and made sure they would get the outcome of a fucked up Imperium that lasts for millennia, feeding them with all the negative emotions they needed, rather than an Imperium of Chaos which would go to shit in a few centuries of infighting, taking humanity and gods themselves with it. It does make sense that at least Khorne and Nurgle would appreciate a bloody and decaying Imperium. One daemon even referred to Horus as &amp;quot;sacrificial lamb&amp;quot; needed to stop the Imperium from turning into a prosperous empire of reason, and kickstart the [[Long War]]. (Though Eldrad disagrees and John Grammaticus has seen Horus actually won the Heresy and Chaos was not only fine but enjoying the aftermath) The Emperor may have developed a counter-plan that caused the Chaos Gods to scream in frustration in &#039;&#039;The Outcast Dead&#039;&#039; but that book is fairly trippy. Later still, Lorgar hinted that the Chaos Gods were displeased with the Warmaster&#039;s unwillingness to become a slave to Chaos and that his ultimate defeat in the duel with the Emperor would be a punishment for his refusal to surrender his will to them. By the time of the Siege of Terra, his body and mind were outright falling apart as the Chaos Gods&#039; power was becoming too much to handle, forcing Abaddon to do much of the actual work in leading the Traitor Legions. &lt;br /&gt;
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Long after the Scouring, Fabius Bile succeeded in creating a stable clone of a pre-Molech Horus, who utterly wrecked a huge boarding party of traitor marines before being fucking impaled through the chest with his own talon by Abbadon. The clone was capable of speech and seemed to possess a semblance of memory from its twin brother&#039;s past (calling Abbadon its &amp;quot;son&amp;quot;, just before being turned into a kebab). It&#039;s unknown why it was so hostile to other Astartes or what degree of control Fabius had over it. Several prominent marines were adamant that such an abomination (cloned Astartes apparently being the closest thing to taboo you can get for even a traitor marine) would not be Horus in any way, because his soul was annihilated by the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Good Guy Horus==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s often forgotten by fans that before he was corrupted and decieved by [[Erebus]] and [[Lorgar]], Horus was a genuinely nice guy, he could even be found regularly posting on the r/niceguys subreddit. Fans are quick to joke about &amp;quot;that dick Horus,&amp;quot; but before [[Heresy|Things Went Wrong]] he was one of the most personable, down to earth primarchs. Yeah, part of the reason people fell for him so easily was that he shared the Emperor&#039;s psychic magnetism, but he also went out of his way to be friendly and considerate of custom, if not necessarily polite. Granted, at times he had arrogance to match [[Magnus]] and choler to match [[Angron]], but despite that he always made effort to honor those under his command, mortal and astartes alike. [[Konrad Curze|While]] [[Angron|many]] [[Mortarion|other]] [[Perturabo|primarchs]] saw their warriors as little more than tools, or [[Fulgrim|were]] [[Ferrus Manus|aloof]] and [[Corvus Corax|unapproachable]], Horus was a true father to his sons, guiding and shaping them personally. To most legions it would be unimaginable for the primarch to personally seek out and comfort a legionary during a time of crisis, but for the Luna Wolves, it was obvious. He was no saint or coddler, as we see him encourage rivalries within and between his legion and others, but in doing so he brought strength and glory. Even when dealing with outsiders, he always attempted diplomacy before making war, something even his gentler brothers cannot say. In fact, one of the primary reasons why Horus was named Warmaster over other candidates like Guilliman, the Lion, or even Sanguinius was that he was such a people person. He was friends with nearly all of his brothers and was superhumanly savvy when it came to knowing how to talk to people. In this same vein, he was also a master manipulator, and routinely used his savvy to get people, even people who didn&#039;t agree with him, to do what he wanted. He was in fact so good at this this he had the ability to change his personality and demeanor to suit particular situations, appearing a slightly different person to others based on what he thought would get him the best results. He got along famously with all of his brothers save one; even total psychos like Angron and Konrad Curze just couldn&#039;t help but love the guy. The only brother of his who didn&#039;t like him was Corax, which was due to the newly-initiated Warmaster somewhat clumsily trying to exert his authority over Corax and getting a bunch of Raven Guard killed unnecessarily. Horus was a cunning, brutal, supremely confident warlord with a huge cock (what) who nonetheless took great pains to make sure his warriors and mortal retainers were treated well, and furthermore, from the very few pre-Davin POV scenes we get, we know he &#039;&#039;actually believed&#039;&#039; others deserved to be treated well, it wasn&#039;t simply [[Fulgrim|feigned politeness]] or [[Roboute Guilliman|a calculated display of regard]]. Then fucking [[Erebus]] happened.  Even his edgy rebellion and fall to Chaos was due to his honest love of people.  He&#039;s basically 40k&#039;s version of Arthas Menethil.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Capabilities==&lt;br /&gt;
It has often been said that Horus was the single greatest of all the Primarchs, and in many respects he genuinely was. Some of his brothers may have had an edge in one particular specialty or another, but Horus was very often among the top 5 in any given category, a jack of all trades, master of most, if you will. As a tactician, only Corax or the Lion were in his league, with the Lion possibly being just slightly better. As a grand strategist, he was akin in skill to Dorn and Guilliman, with Guilliman likely taking the top spot by a small margin. As a logistician, only Perturabo or Guilliman were his match. As a diplomat, only Guilliman, Lorgar, and potentially Magnus were in his league. As a leader of men, only Sanguinius was possessed of similar charisma and nobility. All these traits and more combined to make Horus a virtually unmatched general, one who could fight, plan, improvise, inspire, and negotiate with the absolute best of them. In terms of compliances, he had the single greatest number of military victories under his belt out of all the Primarchs. Only Dorn, the Lion, and Guilliman were close, and only Guilliman had a greater number of total compliances (ones gained through diplomacy or some other non-military means). &lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Horus Lupercal, in all his miniature [[Awesome|glory]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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| &#039;&#039;&#039;Horus:&#039;&#039;&#039; || 500 || 8 || 5 || 7 || 6 || 6 || 6 || 5+1 || 10 || 2+/3++&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is everything you love about an HQ wrapped up in one man. He is a very good tactical HQ allowing reserves to outflank, giving every Son of Horus +1 to Leadership and seizing the initiative on a 4+. He and any Terminator unit he has joined may elect which turn they arrive in and they will not scatter if they choose to Deep Strike (and he bestows the rule to the entire unit). He also makes veteran-tactical squads and Justaerin Terminators troops choices (if he is the Warlord... but then again when are you not going to make him your Warlord?).&lt;br /&gt;
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He is good at shooting with a BS of 5, night vision, a thing that gives - if he chooses to not fire during his turn - a single unit within 6&amp;quot; (other than super-heavy or Independent Characters) +1 BS, a twin-linked super-bolter, and an orbital bombardment using his BS (also twin-linked). And, finally, he is a monster in close combat, being able to take down full terminator squads in 1 turn if you roll well for his 6 attacks plus +D3 attacks if he is fighting a unit or character of weapon skill 4 or lower. He can rape blobs, MEQ&#039;s, TEQ&#039;s and HQ&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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His weapons are the Warmaster&#039;s Talon (an AP2 lightning claw which saddles whoever survives it with a -1 penalty to WS and S for every wound it inflicts that in theory can stack, ensuring that even if he doesn&#039;t kill what he&#039;s fighting, his target will be completely unable to harm him or anybody else in close combat), and a S10 AP1 master-crafted thunderhammer called Worldbreaker. Combine this with an initiative of 6, and he will strike first most of the time. He&#039;s also pretty durable with a toughness and wounds of 6, 2+ armor save, 3+ invulnerable save, 5+ deny the witch, and an additional 3+ save against any psychic attack or adverse profile modifications, which comes to play more often then you may think, given most other Primarchs are bristling with Concussive, Strikedown, Blind or some weirder stat-lowering shit. As in 30k destroyer weapons don&#039;t have a &amp;quot;deathblow&amp;quot; result, titan-killer weapons cannot one-shot him, but they still hurt a lot, and while Shadowsword cannot spam D-strength, Magnus definitely can, and the horrible abomination of cheese that is a Warlord-class battle titan could vomit out enough D to kill three Horuses in one turn, so don&#039;t get too cocky.&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is an absolute motherfucker, and can be thought of as everything a Chapter Master should be between his Orbital Bombardment and army buffs. Letting reserves Outflank makes crossing the board much easier. His Justaerinstar will make anything shit its pants. The Ld bonus patches his Legion&#039;s weak morale, and 4+ seize can make a huge difference. His Orbital Bombardment is also awesome. The multi-wound EWless models one finds in 30k will die, and you&#039;re likely to put vehicles out of commission.  Unfortunately this comes at a really steep fucking price (500 points!) so use him wisely.&lt;br /&gt;
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As this is said to represent him as he was during the Great Crusade and the start of the Horus Heresy, it is possible he may get an updated profile to represent him as he was when he got all Chaos&#039;d up. When or if that&#039;ll happen is anyone&#039;s guess, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus wins against any other Primarch except Leman Russ and super-charged Magnus. That&#039;s it. He beats ALMOST any other opponent he gets pitted against.&lt;br /&gt;
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No seriously, what did you expect? With WS 8, 6 Attacks with a S7 AP2 lightning claw that cripples whoever survives his onslaught or a MC S10 Thunder Hammer and 2+/3++ he can destroy almost any other Primarch relatively safely. He&#039;s clearly built to be the hardest dude around and his gear is borderline unfair. Disabling Strike is just disgusting and it&#039;s directly intended to make sure he stays the top dog no matter how [[Angron|angry]], [[Fulgrim|pretty]] or [[Perturabo|well]] [[Ferrus Manus|equipped]] anyone else is... [[Sanguinius|so long as he doesn&#039;t piss off the Angel]]. Ouch, that Talon really hurts. So, yeah, almost no one can actually fight 1 on 1 with the Warmaster, barring some incredibly lucky rolls. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;These are the old numbers on Leman Russ pre-FAQ:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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*Horus vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, Round 1: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves, and IWND brings it down 0.555&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus Round 2 and on: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.111&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Balenight): hits 4.667 times, wounds 3.502, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.834 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Helwinter): hits 4.861 times, wounds 4.051 times, 1.350 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.017 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Balenight): hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.667&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Helwinter): hits 4.190 times, wounds 3.492, 1.164 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.831 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sever Life: Being a pain in the ass to calculate, Sever Life will go off most of the time against Horus, but for the purposes of this mathhammer Sever Life&#039;s chance to not go off will be included in its average Wounds roll: &lt;br /&gt;
***Every time Leman Russ Attacks Horus (as he&#039;ll always manage to Wound him and it doesn&#039;t say it&#039;s triggered via unsaved Wounds) Horus takes an additional 1.091 Wounds, only 0.364 of which will make it through Horus&#039; save.&lt;br /&gt;
**Keeping Sever Life in mind and the fact that Leman Russ can split his attacks, the ideal way to split them (for round one and two anyway) would be: 2 Attacks with Balenight, 4/5 Attacks with Helfrost.  Here&#039;s what that looks like:&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack: hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.341 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds: hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.154 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
Leman&#039;s negative to hit modifier is brutal, basically negating Horus&#039; ability to do any damage, while Leman is still pounding him over the head.  As stated, this includes Sever Life and Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin.  The theoretical breakdown of the match would be:&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 1:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 6 Wounds, WS9, S6 + charge/Counter-Attack (2 attacks on Balenight, 5 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 4.326 Wounds: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 5.112 Wounds, WS9, S6 (2 attacks on Balenight, 4 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.839 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.001 Wounds (IWND puts him slightly above 5, but it can&#039;t regenerate his damaged characteristics), WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.006 Wounds (IWND): Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.557 Wounds, WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.84 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.446 Wounds (IWND), WS7, S4 (The Talon of Horus technically causes another unsaved wound here) (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.607 times, 0.536 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.637 Wounds (IWND): Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 3.558 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.28 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
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** Leman Russ, 2.67 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus is dead before IWND kicks in for him and so cannot strike back.&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematically, if Russ takes full advantage of Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin then Horus loses the fight in 7 rounds (4 game turns!) while Russ still has 2.67 Wounds left. Whoah.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do note that IWND messes up the math a little at face value for Talon of Horus.  Since Russ does not gain characteristics back that he lost because of Severing Strike, he&#039;ll appear to have fewer unsaved Wounds than he actually does.&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was based on Russ&#039; armour before it got nerfed, which before would make -2 to hits against by round two. Now it is only -1 for the entire battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Recalculations from Reddit by u/Fromageopain, showing Horus&#039; win:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Round 1 (Russ&#039;s turn, 7 attacks from charge. If turns are swapped, still 7 from Counter-Attack, but Horus makes IWND first)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [6 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 attacks with Balenight, 5 attacks with Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.912 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 3.2601 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.7833 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [4.222 Wounds, 6 Talon attacks]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2 (Horus&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [5.444 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 Balenight 4 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.201 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 2.668 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.586 wounds after saves and 1.253 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [2.969 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3 (Russ&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.555 Wounds, WS8, S5, 4 Balenight 2 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.5 times with Balenight and 1.375 times with Helwinter, wounds 1.111 times with Balenight and 1.407 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.203 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.766 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4 (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.111 Wounds, WS7, S4 (he is over 4 wounds thanks to IWND, but lost his characteristics since the talon wounded 4 times), 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times and add 1.091 for Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind), 0.669 wounds after saves and 0.335 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.430 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 times with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker. wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [2.687 Wounds, WS6, S3, 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times, add 1.091 with Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind again), 0.669 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, [0.761 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves. IWND brings this down to 1.09 wounds&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [1.596 Wounds (IWND), WS5, S2, 6 attacks on Helwinter (Str2 cannot hurt T6)]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves (not enough to actually kill Horus) and IWND will mean that Horus will actually heal more than Leman inflicts, resulting Horus gaining 0.139 wounds at the end of the turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.900 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [0.172 Wounds, WS4, S1, all attacks on Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.761 Wounds, gain +d3 attacks] and finish Leman...&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep in mind that these results are made considering that Sever Life will apply regardless of Horus successfully saving the wounds inflicted by Balenight which is greatly benefiting Russ and is probably not the way the rule is supposed to work. On a side note, if Sever Life only triggers when Horus suffers an unsaved wound from Balenight, then the fight is way more one sided in Horus&#039; favor because Leman would have to make more attacks using the sword in order to trigger Sever Life, losing damage since the axe hits harder than the sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Wolf-king also has a secret weapon: Wolves... yeah. Russ can choose to have both his dogs accompany him, both of which are characters. Thanks to how wound allocation and challenges work, Russ can force Horus to engage with the dogs instead of him for 2 whole rounds, making Horus use Worldbreaker to ID the dogs, since if he uses the Talon it&#039;ll take 3 wounds total to kill the dogs and he can tank the full Worldbreaker on himself to stop the other dog from dying too fast, which prevents his stats from dropping early. By that point there is a high probability Horus will be on his last couple wounds if not already dead when the attacks from the wolves are added in to augment Leman Russ. Meaning Horus will simply die even faster. Emperor&#039;s Executioner indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to HH6: Retribution, the Mechanicum has its primarch-like character. [[Anacharis Scoria]], lord of Xana and the first of the Dark Mechanicum used to be able to easily kill Horus thanks to a 3+ Invuln, Feel No Pain, and a weapon that wounds automatically and causes D3 wounds at AP2 per hit (making Horus&#039; talon worthless). This allowed him to kill Horus in 5 rounds, whereas Horus needed 6 to kill him in return. He also got nerfed in the same FAQ that nerfed Russ, so now Horus kills him too.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus Portrait.png|400px|thumb|right|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Yul Brynner&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Lex Luthor&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Jean-Luc Picard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Professor X pre-paralysis&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Vin Diesel&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Horus Lupercal, the Warmaster. Here shown prior to getting his Chaos on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|&#039;&#039;&#039;Let the galaxy burn.&#039;&#039;&#039;|Horus Lupercal, ruining everything for everyone for ever}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.|Satan in John Milton&#039;s &#039;&#039;Paradise Lost&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|[[Primarch|Angels]] are bright still, though the brightest [[Chaos|fell]].|William Shakespeare}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Horus *wah Daddy, I didn’t get enough hugs* Lupercal, The Breaker of Tyrants, The Warmaster, The Arch-Traitor, That Bald Cunt&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;[[If_the_Emperor_had_a_Text-to-Speech_Device|FUCKING HORUS!]]&#039;&#039;&#039; was the [[Primarch]] of the [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion]], and the main figure in the event known as the [[Horus Heresy|Horus]] [[Heresy]] (this is NOT a dead giveaway. Oh no), who is generally known as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;THE GUY WHO FUCK&#039;D IT ALL UP&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, [[Erebus |but not really really.]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Horus-Primarchs-.jpeg|300px|right|thumb|Young Horus in all his bald glory (looking weirdly like Benito Mussolini cross with a WWE wrestler).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Once the most favoured son of his father the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]], he began to resent his father&#039;s treatment of him and other Primarchs, and believing that the Emperor&#039;s secret plan was to become a god using his own Primarch sons as a tool (when in fact all this is [[Just as planned|due to the lies]] of a [[Lorgar|certain religious zealot]]), eventually turned to [[Chaos]]. If you really need to be told any of this, what in the actual fuck are you doing on /tg/ in the first place? This is such common knowledge, that the outlines of the Horus Heresy and every bad ass taking part in it, are more or less [[Dwarf Fortress|engraved]] in the mind of every /tg/ reader. Much like the Emperor being crippled and the Imperium devolving into a bureaucratic [[grimdark]] empire, the death of Horus and the placement of [[Abaddon]] as the most influential Chaos champion ever, turned the Traitor legions from a genocidal force bent on utter domination for the glory of Chaos into a Saturday-morning cartoon villain organization. Also his armour made him look like an egg. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is argued that Horus was not actually evil but possessed by the Chaos Gods or that he was a victim of [[Lorgar]], who is officially labeled as &amp;quot;The First Heretic.&amp;quot; However, he was still [[Eldrad|a massive dick]]. Hence the common saying in the post-Heresy Imperium: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Of all the mighty Primarchs, Horus sure was a dick.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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But long story short, the Imperium got into this fucked up state because this guy had daddy issues (honestly, who didn&#039;t?), he got scammed by [[Erebus|religious nutjobs]], and [[Grimdark|because the Chaos Gods showed him horrific visions of the future, supposedly under the Emperor&#039;s rule]], all while conveniently leaving out the fact that it would be his own efforts to avert said future that would cause it in the first place. Lol-irony. They did show him that the Emperor was planning to discard him and the other rest of the Space Marines when their usefulness ended, and in fairness, &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; was actually completely true as Master of Mankind shows and which totally contradicts previous Horus Heresy novels where the chambers the primarchs were supposed to live in once the Crusade ended were depicted. Why would you build large apartments for your &amp;quot;sons&amp;quot; if you really did not give a rat&#039;s ass about them? Or was the EMPRA intending on luring them into their respective apartment and then strangle them to death? Why go through all the effort when his psychic might was enough to force Lorgar to kneel (causing a small brain hemorrhage as evidenced by blood tricking out of his nose. See &amp;quot;The First Heretic)? He could have just BLAMMED them all Thunder Warrior style with all his psychic prowess and shit. Either way, you know what they say- the best lies contain a grain of truth. The Chaos Gods did show Horus the future he would create which seemed to prove that the EMPRA had planned his own ascension all along (so he obviously must enjoy to be chilling on the couch as a decomposing corpse these days).&lt;br /&gt;
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It also doesn&#039;t help that there&#039;s prior precedence provided by Malcador committing damnatio memoriae on the [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|11th and 2nd Primarchs]], a conspiracy which was first uncovered during its development by [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]] and brought to the attention of the Warmaster himself, leading to a confrontation between [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]], Horus, [[Jaghatai Khan]] &amp;amp; [[Malcador the Sigillite]] on [[Terra]]. After calling each other [[that guy|ambitious freeloaders]], Horus threatened Malcador&#039;s life, to which the Sigillite said if they didn&#039;t like the erasure of the recently lost legion, they could shove that &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;precious&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; vainglorious memory of theirs where the sun don&#039;t shine. When Horus tried to speak his dead brother&#039;s name as an act of defiance, Malcador froze his brain &amp;amp; had to be talked down from sploding his grey matter all over the room by Jaghatai &amp;amp; [[Alpharius#But_Wait.21|&amp;quot;Alpharius&amp;quot;]]. When he got back up, [[RAGE|Horus flipped a table and gave Malcador the bird when he had his back turned]], effectively planting the seed of resentment &amp;amp; pouring boiling piss over it.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is during this confrontation that it&#039;s revealed that Horus had always disagreed with the idea of standard humans ruling over themselves &amp;amp; believed that since it was he, the other Primarchs and their Astartes who conquered the stars, that it should be themselves who rule over the compliant planets; rather than this opinion being implanted by the ruinous powers, it was merely exacerbated. His low opinion on mortals probably isn&#039;t helped by the fact that the conspiracy to condemn the memory of his [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|lost brothers]] was concocted by baseline noble humans (there was even a noble present from House Carpinus by the name of [[Dune|Na-Baron]] Petronius Vivar at the confrontation with Malcador). Evidently, the other traitor Primarchs thought much the same when he revealed to them that it was the Emperor&#039;s plan to give the right to govern these planets to standard humans of noble houses, only to then discard the Primarchs and the remaining 18 legions ([[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs_.7C_The_Forgotten_.26_The_Purged|2nd and 11th style]]) once their stated purpose had been fulfilled. How this plan exactly meshes with putting Magnus on the Golden Throne to manage the Webway for Him is unknown, but we suspect it involves strapping an explosive collar around his neck that would detonate should he decide to peel his red ass off the chair. No bathroom breaks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way though, the Emperor psychically nuking of Horus&#039; body and soul means Horus is gone as fuck now, occasional Fabius Bile cloning shenanigans notwithstanding, and Horus&#039; influence of modern 40K will remain posthumous.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, 40K(30K?) Horus has more of an reverse connection to his Egyptian god namesake, given the Egyptian Horus heroically took to the throne of the gods from a usurper while 40K Horus is instead the failed usurper.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New fluff==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|600px|thumb|right|If this reminds you of every Baroque and/or Christianity-related painting from the Renaissance up until the 19th Century, good. Also note how the Custodes are Dark Silver and wearing Pickelhauben (That&#039;s because these are Sagittarum Guard).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Recent fluff from the book &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039; has Horus visiting the same gate to the Warp on Molech that the [[Emperor]] used to get some of his powers. While only seconds pass in the Materium, Horus spends what is basically implied to be an eternity inside the Warp battling rival Daemon Princes, amassing billions of warp-creature minions, and wrecking shit. In the end he somehow gains the same powers that the Emperor received to create the Primarchs, but Horus gets them in a &amp;quot;legit&amp;quot; way (as far as the Ruinous Powers are concerned) by passing their near constant tests through sheer force of will, where the Emperor just took what he wanted. Refusing to become a slave to the Ruinous Powers (or perhaps that&#039;s what the Chaos Gods wanted him to think) he leaves his Warp-empire to return to his rebellion in the Materium. Horus&#039; time inside the Warp was so long that he, a fully grown Primarch, had visibly aged. However with his new psychic hack abilities he disguises his over-the-hill face and still maintains his youthful appearance. Apparently the Emperor does the same trick. This was basically a big retcon by Black Library who previously explained Horus being able to fight toe-to-toe with the Big E as having all four Chaos Gods channel their powers into him at once. &lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s important to explore this clusterfuck of nonsense to make sense of the lore before one comes to the rubbish conclusion that the Emperor only became god-like after Molech. This is balls-deep nonsense. This is what Horus (who is himself not in any way whatsoever a good source for reliable information regarding Chaos) thinks he knows from his own narrow/skewed/manipulated point of view. The more commonly held belief is that, as with the vision he received from the [[Erebus|Great Fuckhead Himself]], he was misled. That the Emperor, a being capable of trapping and fighting a C&#039;Tan (that as it turned out had been tired out prior by another warp entity... oops) during the Middle Ages, was always as powerful as He has been portrayed. It is explained that the Primarchs are more than just flesh and bone, and that each of them has a fraction of His personality in them that they themselves embody. [[Ferrus Manus]]&#039; rather dramatic death highlights that inside Primarchs lies a great deal of energy. Now to the heart of it - Molech. Why would a being as powerful as the Emperor, who has to combat 4 monstrously powerful otherworldly entities whilst maintaining a beacon anywhere he goes, soul bound psykers and fight throughout the Great Crusade, split His formidable power 20 times into 20 beings? He wouldn&#039;t, he&#039;d grab extra power to do so. That was Molech - a source and gateway to a wellspring of power claimed by Chaos for its use alone. A source the Emperor broke into and stole/took/tricked for His Primarch Project. Using the additional power, He crafted, with His scientific mastery, 20 genetically engineered super hosts. In the same way that god-aligned daemons are formed by splitting a portion off the God itself, He used each portion of power as a blank mold, investing them with a sliver of His personality and allowing the power to coalesce around it to form a soul/Emperor-Greater Daemon. That pseudo-daemon is then implanted in a host that can never die or degrade due to age, perfectly tailored to hold it. This explains why each Primarch radiates an aura of awe and magnificence. Horus didn&#039;t become as powerful as the Emperor, he retrieved the power that made himself and all his brothers and had it infused into himself. While it appears he has lost a significant chunk of this power (and a piece of his soul) after his duel with Leman Russ in the [[Battle of Trisolian]], the Ruinous Powers soon after began to mainline him with warp energy to the point where he began to bulge at the seams, so by the onset of the [[Siege of Terra]] he resembled something in between walking cancerous tumor growth amalgamation and juicing steroid junkie. Whether or not he will manage to be a match for the Emperor as yet remains to be seen. That said, we know who won the duel. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the duel with Russ, Horus suddenly entered a near coma, throwing the legion into disarray. Maloghurst later entered the Realm of Chaos and found that a part of Horus&#039;s soul - an uncorrupted part - was still trapped in the Warp. That part of his soul was suffering from the effects of Russ&#039;s spear, leading to the material Horus falling unconcious. The fragment expressed remorse over it&#039;s actions, as well as a morbid clarity that his rebellion was just part of the Gods plan and he had been manipulated into doing so. Left with no other option, Maloghurst destroyed the fragment at the cost of his own life, releasing Horus from his coma and giving him total control over the powers granted by the Chaos Gods, as well as leaving him utterly without doubt in his actions (however delusional they may actually have been).&lt;br /&gt;
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In Path of Heaven he appears in all his pomp and Chaotic corruption to assign Mortarion to kill Jaghatai Khan, explain that all his other generals have gone doolally and wax lyrical about killing the Emperor, as well as make the point that being &#039;roided up by the raw stuff of the Empyrean doesn&#039;t get you out of having to manage the logistics of a galactic civil war. Soon after, Mortarion kills his Navigators in a fit of rage and makes the dumbass decision to go into the warp anyway. In other words, Horus was the only one of his brothers who had his shit together, which was why the Horus Heresy fell apart so quickly after his death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Newest fluff heavily suggests that Chaos Gods&#039; plan from the very beginning was for Horus to lose, but only barely. Apparently the Gods knew about the [[Cabal]]&#039;s plans and made sure they would get the outcome of a fucked up Imperium that lasts for millennia, feeding them with all the negative emotions they needed, rather than an Imperium of Chaos which would go to shit in a few centuries of infighting, taking humanity and gods themselves with it. It does make sense that at least Khorne and Nurgle would appreciate a bloody and decaying Imperium. One daemon even referred to Horus as &amp;quot;sacrificial lamb&amp;quot; needed to stop the Imperium from turning into a prosperous empire of reason, and kickstart the [[Long War]]. (Though Eldrad disagrees and John Grammaticus has seen Horus actually won the Heresy and Chaos was not only fine but enjoying the aftermath) The Emperor may have developed a counter-plan that caused the Chaos Gods to scream in frustration in &#039;&#039;The Outcast Dead&#039;&#039; but that book is fairly trippy. Later still, Lorgar hinted that the Chaos Gods were displeased with the Warmaster&#039;s unwillingness to become a slave to Chaos and that his ultimate defeat in the duel with the Emperor would be a punishment for his refusal to surrender his will to them. By the time of the Siege of Terra, his body and mind were outright falling apart as the Chaos Gods&#039; power was becoming too much to handle, forcing Abaddon to do much of the actual work in leading the Traitor Legions. &lt;br /&gt;
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Long after the Scouring, Fabius Bile succeeded in creating a stable clone of a pre-Molech Horus, who utterly wrecked a huge boarding party of traitor marines before being fucking impaled through the chest with his own talon by Abbadon. The clone was capable of speech and seemed to possess a semblance of memory from its twin brother&#039;s past (calling Abbadon its &amp;quot;son&amp;quot;, just before being turned into a kebab). It&#039;s unknown why it was so hostile to other Astartes or what degree of control Fabius had over it. Several prominent marines were adamant that such an abomination (cloned Astartes apparently being the closest thing to taboo you can get for even a traitor marine) would not be Horus in any way, because his soul was annihilated by the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Good Guy Horus==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s often forgotten by fans that before he was corrupted and decieved by [[Erebus]] and [[Lorgar]], Horus was a genuinely nice guy, he could even be found regularly posting on the r/niceguys subreddit. Fans are quick to joke about &amp;quot;that dick Horus,&amp;quot; but before [[Heresy|Things Went Wrong]] he was one of the most personable, down to earth primarchs. Yeah, part of the reason people fell for him so easily was that he shared the Emperor&#039;s psychic magnetism, but he also went out of his way to be friendly and considerate of custom, if not necessarily polite. Granted, at times he had arrogance to match [[Magnus]] and choler to match [[Angron]], but despite that he always made effort to honor those under his command, mortal and astartes alike. [[Konrad Curze|While]] [[Angron|many]] [[Mortarion|other]] [[Perturabo|primarchs]] saw their warriors as little more than tools, or [[Fulgrim|were]] [[Ferrus Manus|aloof]] and [[Corvus Corax|unapproachable]], Horus was a true father to his sons, guiding and shaping them personally. To most legions it would be unimaginable for the primarch to personally seek out and comfort a legionary during a time of crisis, but for the Luna Wolves, it was obvious. He was no saint or coddler, as we see him encourage rivalries within and between his legion and others, but in doing so he brought strength and glory. Even when dealing with outsiders, he always attempted diplomacy before making war, something even his gentler brothers cannot say. In fact, one of the primary reasons why Horus was named Warmaster over other candidates like Guilliman, the Lion, or even Sanguinius was that he was such a people person. He was friends with nearly all of his brothers and was superhumanly savvy when it came to knowing how to talk to people. In this same vein, he was also a master manipulator, and routinely used his savvy to get people, even people who didn&#039;t agree with him, to do what he wanted. He was in fact so good at this this he had the ability to change his personality and demeanor to suit particular situations, appearing a slightly different person to others based on what he thought would get him the best results. He got along famously with all of his brothers save one; even total psychos like Angron and Konrad Curze just couldn&#039;t help but love the guy. The only brother of his who didn&#039;t like him was Corax, which was due to the newly-initiated Warmaster somewhat clumsily trying to exert his authority over Corax and getting a bunch of Raven Guard killed unnecessarily. Horus was a cunning, brutal, supremely confident warlord with a huge cock (what) who nonetheless took great pains to make sure his warriors and mortal retainers were treated well, and furthermore, from the very few pre-Davin POV scenes we get, we know he &#039;&#039;actually believed&#039;&#039; others deserved to be treated well, it wasn&#039;t simply [[Fulgrim|feigned politeness]] or [[Roboute Guilliman|a calculated display of regard]]. Then fucking [[Erebus]] happened.  Even his edgy rebellion and fall to Chaos was due to his honest love of people.  He&#039;s basically 40k&#039;s version of Arthas Menethil.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Capabilities==&lt;br /&gt;
It has often been said that Horus was the single greatest of all the Primarchs, and in many respects he genuinely was. Some of his brothers may have had an edge in one particular specialty or another, but Horus was very often among the top 5 in any given category, a jack-of-all-trades, master of most, if you will. As a tactician, only Corax or the Lion were in his league, with the Lion possibly being just slightly better. As a grand strategist, he was akin in skill to Dorn and Guilliman, with Guilliman likely taking the top spot by a small margin. As a logistician, only Perturabo or Guilliman were his match. As a diplomat, only Guilliman, Lorgar, and potentially Magnus were in his league. As a leader of men, only Sanguinius was possessed of similar charisma and nobility. All these traits and more combined to make Horus a virtually unmatched general, one who could fight, plan, improvise, inspire, and negotiate with the absolute best of them. In terms of compliances, he had the single greatest number of military victories under his belt out of all the Primarchs. Only Dorn, the Lion, and Guilliman were close, and only Guilliman had a greater number of total compliances (ones gained through diplomacy or some other non-military means). &lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Horus.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Horus Lupercal, in all his miniature [[Awesome|glory]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is everything you love about an HQ wrapped up in one man. He is a very good tactical HQ allowing reserves to outflank, giving every Son of Horus +1 to Leadership and seizing the initiative on a 4+. He and any Terminator unit he has joined may elect which turn they arrive in and they will not scatter if they choose to Deep Strike (and he bestows the rule to the entire unit). He also makes veteran-tactical squads and Justaerin Terminators troops choices (if he is the Warlord... but then again when are you not going to make him your Warlord?).&lt;br /&gt;
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He is good at shooting with a BS of 5, night vision, a thing that gives - if he chooses to not fire during his turn - a single unit within 6&amp;quot; (other than super-heavy or Independent Characters) +1 BS, a twin-linked super-bolter, and an orbital bombardment using his BS (also twin-linked). And, finally, he is a monster in close combat, being able to take down full terminator squads in 1 turn if you roll well for his 6 attacks plus +D3 attacks if he is fighting a unit or character of weapon skill 4 or lower. He can rape blobs, MEQ&#039;s, TEQ&#039;s and HQ&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
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His weapons are the Warmaster&#039;s Talon (an AP2 lightning claw which saddles whoever survives it with a -1 penalty to WS and S for every wound it inflicts that in theory can stack, ensuring that even if he doesn&#039;t kill what he&#039;s fighting, his target will be completely unable to harm him or anybody else in close combat), and a S10 AP1 master-crafted thunderhammer called Worldbreaker. Combine this with an initiative of 6, and he will strike first most of the time. He&#039;s also pretty durable with a toughness and wounds of 6, 2+ armor save, 3+ invulnerable save, 5+ deny the witch, and an additional 3+ save against any psychic attack or adverse profile modifications, which comes to play more often then you may think, given most other Primarchs are bristling with Concussive, Strikedown, Blind or some weirder stat-lowering shit. As in 30k destroyer weapons don&#039;t have a &amp;quot;deathblow&amp;quot; result, titan-killer weapons cannot one-shot him, but they still hurt a lot, and while Shadowsword cannot spam D-strength, Magnus definitely can, and the horrible abomination of cheese that is a Warlord-class battle titan could vomit out enough D to kill three Horuses in one turn, so don&#039;t get too cocky.&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus is an absolute motherfucker, and can be thought of as everything a Chapter Master should be between his Orbital Bombardment and army buffs. Letting reserves Outflank makes crossing the board much easier. His Justaerinstar will make anything shit its pants. The Ld bonus patches his Legion&#039;s weak morale, and 4+ seize can make a huge difference. His Orbital Bombardment is also awesome. The multi-wound EWless models one finds in 30k will die, and you&#039;re likely to put vehicles out of commission.  Unfortunately this comes at a really steep fucking price (500 points!) so use him wisely.&lt;br /&gt;
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As this is said to represent him as he was during the Great Crusade and the start of the Horus Heresy, it is possible he may get an updated profile to represent him as he was when he got all Chaos&#039;d up. When or if that&#039;ll happen is anyone&#039;s guess, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Horus wins against any other Primarch except Leman Russ and super-charged Magnus. That&#039;s it. He beats ALMOST any other opponent he gets pitted against.&lt;br /&gt;
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No seriously, what did you expect? With WS 8, 6 Attacks with a S7 AP2 lightning claw that cripples whoever survives his onslaught or a MC S10 Thunder Hammer and 2+/3++ he can destroy almost any other Primarch relatively safely. He&#039;s clearly built to be the hardest dude around and his gear is borderline unfair. Disabling Strike is just disgusting and it&#039;s directly intended to make sure he stays the top dog no matter how [[Angron|angry]], [[Fulgrim|pretty]] or [[Perturabo|well]] [[Ferrus Manus|equipped]] anyone else is... [[Sanguinius|so long as he doesn&#039;t piss off the Angel]]. Ouch, that Talon really hurts. So, yeah, almost no one can actually fight 1 on 1 with the Warmaster, barring some incredibly lucky rolls. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;These are the old numbers on Leman Russ pre-FAQ:&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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*Horus vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, Round 1: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves, and IWND brings it down 0.555&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus Round 2 and on: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.111&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Balenight): hits 4.667 times, wounds 3.502, 1.167 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.834 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack (Helwinter): hits 4.861 times, wounds 4.051 times, 1.350 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.017 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Balenight): hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wound after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.667&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ, full Wounds (Helwinter): hits 4.190 times, wounds 3.492, 1.164 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 0.831 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sever Life: Being a pain in the ass to calculate, Sever Life will go off most of the time against Horus, but for the purposes of this mathhammer Sever Life&#039;s chance to not go off will be included in its average Wounds roll: &lt;br /&gt;
***Every time Leman Russ Attacks Horus (as he&#039;ll always manage to Wound him and it doesn&#039;t say it&#039;s triggered via unsaved Wounds) Horus takes an additional 1.091 Wounds, only 0.364 of which will make it through Horus&#039; save.&lt;br /&gt;
**Keeping Sever Life in mind and the fact that Leman Russ can split his attacks, the ideal way to split them (for round one and two anyway) would be: 2 Attacks with Balenight, 4/5 Attacks with Helfrost.  Here&#039;s what that looks like:&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds + charge/Counter-Attack: hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.341 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Leman Russ, full Wounds: hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves and IWND brings it down to 1.154 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
Leman&#039;s negative to hit modifier is brutal, basically negating Horus&#039; ability to do any damage, while Leman is still pounding him over the head.  As stated, this includes Sever Life and Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin.  The theoretical breakdown of the match would be:&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 1:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 6 Wounds, WS9, S6 + charge/Counter-Attack (2 attacks on Balenight, 5 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.851 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 3.518 times with Helwinter), wounds 5.023 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.932 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.674 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 4.326 Wounds: Hits 2 times, wounds 1.777 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.112 Wounds, WS9, S6 (2 attacks on Balenight, 4 attacks on Helwinter): hits 4.177 times (1.333 times with Balenight, 2.844 times with Helwinter), wounds 4.461 times (1 time with Balenight, 2.370 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.487 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.839 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 5.001 Wounds (IWND puts him slightly above 5, but it can&#039;t regenerate his damaged characteristics), WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 2.006 Wounds (IWND): Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.557 Wounds, WS8, S5 (3 attacks on Balenight, 3 attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.188 times (1.5 times with Balenight, 1.688 times with Helwinter), wounds 3.498 times (1 time with Balenight, 1.407 times with Helwinter, 1.091 times with Sever Life), 1.166 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.84 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5:&lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 4.446 Wounds (IWND), WS7, S4 (The Talon of Horus technically causes another unsaved wound here) (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.607 times, 0.536 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.637 Wounds (IWND): Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times with his Claw, 0.888 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: &lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 3.558 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus, 0.28 Wounds: Hits 1 time, wounds 0.888 times with his Claw, 0.444 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: &lt;br /&gt;
** Leman Russ, 2.67 Wounds, WS6, S3 (all attacks on Helwinter): hits 3.214 times, wounds 1.071 times, 0.357 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Horus is dead before IWND kicks in for him and so cannot strike back.&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematically, if Russ takes full advantage of Breaker of Shields, Bringer of Ruin then Horus loses the fight in 7 rounds (4 game turns!) while Russ still has 2.67 Wounds left. Whoah.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do note that IWND messes up the math a little at face value for Talon of Horus.  Since Russ does not gain characteristics back that he lost because of Severing Strike, he&#039;ll appear to have fewer unsaved Wounds than he actually does.&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was based on Russ&#039; armour before it got nerfed, which before would make -2 to hits against by round two. Now it is only -1 for the entire battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Recalculations from Reddit by u/Fromageopain, showing Horus&#039; win:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Round 1 (Russ&#039;s turn, 7 attacks from charge. If turns are swapped, still 7 from Counter-Attack, but Horus makes IWND first)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [6 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 attacks with Balenight, 5 attacks with Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.912 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 3.2601 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.7833 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [4.222 Wounds, 6 Talon attacks]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 2 (Horus&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [5.444 Wounds, WS9, S6, 2 Balenight 4 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.333 times with Balenight and 3.201 times with Helwinter, wounds 1 time with Balenight, 2.668 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.586 wounds after saves and 1.253 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [2.969 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 time, wounds 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 3 (Russ&#039; turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.555 Wounds, WS8, S5, 4 Balenight 2 Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 1.5 times with Balenight and 1.375 times with Helwinter, wounds 1.111 times with Balenight and 1.407 times with Helwinter and add 1.091 for Sever Life. That leads to 1.203 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.766 Wounds, 6 Talon]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2 times, wound 1.778 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and 0.444 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 4 (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [4.111 Wounds, WS7, S4 (he is over 4 wounds thanks to IWND, but lost his characteristics since the talon wounded 4 times), 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times and add 1.091 for Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind), 0.669 wounds after saves and 0.335 after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [1.430 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 times with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker. wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 5: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [2.687 Wounds, WS6, S3, 6 Balenight]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.917 times, add 1.091 with Sever Life (let&#039;s be kind again), 0.669 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus, [0.761 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves. IWND brings this down to 1.09 wounds&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 6: (Horus&#039; Turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [1.596 Wounds (IWND), WS5, S2, 6 attacks on Helwinter (Str2 cannot hurt T6)]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves (not enough to actually kill Horus) and IWND will mean that Horus will actually heal more than Leman inflicts, resulting Horus gaining 0.139 wounds at the end of the turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.900 Wounds, 5 Talon 1 Worldbreaker]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 2.5 time with Talon and 0.75 times with Worldbreaker, wounds 2.222 and 0.625 times. That leads to 1.111 and 0.313 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
*Round 7: (Russ&#039;s turn)&lt;br /&gt;
**Russ [0.172 Wounds, WS4, S1, all attacks on Helwinter]&lt;br /&gt;
***Hits 3 times , wounds 0.582 times, 0.194 wounds after saves.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus [0.761 Wounds, gain +d3 attacks] and finish Leman...&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep in mind that these results are made considering that Sever Life will apply regardless of Horus successfully saving the wounds inflicted by Balenight which is greatly benefiting Russ and is probably not the way the rule is supposed to work. On a side note, if Sever Life only triggers when Horus suffers an unsaved wound from Balenight, then the fight is way more one sided in Horus&#039; favor because Leman would have to make more attacks using the sword in order to trigger Sever Life, losing damage since the axe hits harder than the sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Wolf-king also has a secret weapon: Wolves... yeah. Russ can choose to have both his dogs accompany him, both of which are characters. Thanks to how wound allocation and challenges work, Russ can force Horus to engage with the dogs instead of him for 2 whole rounds, making Horus use Worldbreaker to ID the dogs, since if he uses the Talon it&#039;ll take 3 wounds total to kill the dogs and he can tank the full Worldbreaker on himself to stop the other dog from dying too fast, which prevents his stats from dropping early. By that point there is a high probability Horus will be on his last couple wounds if not already dead when the attacks from the wolves are added in to augment Leman Russ. Meaning Horus will simply die even faster. Emperor&#039;s Executioner indeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to HH6: Retribution, the Mechanicum has its primarch-like character. [[Anacharis Scoria]], lord of Xana and the first of the Dark Mechanicum used to be able to easily kill Horus thanks to a 3+ Invuln, Feel No Pain, and a weapon that wounds automatically and causes D3 wounds at AP2 per hit (making Horus&#039; talon worthless). This allowed him to kill Horus in 5 rounds, whereas Horus needed 6 to kill him in return. He also got nerfed in the same FAQ that nerfed Russ, so now Horus kills him too.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Horus vs Leman.jpg| Ah too many wolves.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Fulgrim</title>
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{{Sick|See [[Slaanesh]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Fulgrimsketch.png|400px|right|thumb|Fulgrim&#039;s sketch, looking less fabulous than usual. [[RAGE|Bringing this shit up is a sure fired way of getting your]] [[Anal circumference|ass perforated with one of his many swords.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I finally figured out the only reason to be alive is to enjoy it.|Rita Mae Brown}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|He that loves pleasure must to pleasure fall|Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|There was a point where this needed to stop and we&#039;ve clearly passed it, but let&#039;s keep going and see what happens.|anonymous}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light!|The Primarch himself}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Fulgrim&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The Palatine Phoenix&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; AKA &#039;&#039;&#039;Prissy Little Bitch&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Drama Queen&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[TTS|Obnoxious Brown Noser]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Anime|Every Gay Anime Character Stereotype]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;snek man&#039;&#039;&#039;, is the [[Primarch]] of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] [[Chaos Space Marines|traitor legion]], a [[daemon prince]], the Pretty-Boy of the family, perennial handler of extra-fucking-cursed swords and an enormous hedonistic bitch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pre-heresy, Fulgrim was the HAWTEST goddamn asshole in the galaxy. Like, anime protagonist, Gary Stu self-insert HAWT. (Jury&#039;s still out on if he was hotter than Sanguinius). He was so HAWT, that his residual HAWTNESS made all of humanity the HAWTEST race in the galaxy, which is kind of ironic, because &#039;ful&#039; means ugly in Swedish, and &#039;grim&#039; means ugly in Danish. Anyways, point is, Fulgrim was one handsome human. Because of this, he decided that all the ugly [[xenos]] had to [[Khorne|&#039;&#039;&#039;fucking die&#039;&#039;&#039;]] for the crime of not being HAWT humans. Fulgrim was also moody as hell, craving drama, and was generally the worst guy at parties. In fact, he was so edgy, that one time he met up with [[Perturabo]] to tell him he&#039;d heard of some cool [[Eldar]] weapons they could use to kill [[God-Emperor of Mankind|daddy]]. They met on a remote planet to talk about it, and halfway through the first fucking sentence, Fulgrim decided that he couldn&#039;t just explain it out in the open. Rather, he felt he had to tell Perturabo in a magnificent amphitheater built into a meteor crater. Nothing else would do. Sadly, no such amphitheater existed in the galaxy at the time. No probs for Fulgrim, though, as he just made the [[Iron Warriors]] build one. Since there were no craters on this planet AND no meteors available, better break out the explosives! Boom went the dynamite, and the [[Slaanesh|erecting]] of this theater began, while Fulgrim broke out the deck chair and refused to move until his brother&#039;s legion raised said theater. When the theater was done, he finally took the stage and began prancing around, eventually getting to the point and starting his explanation. Unfortunately, he&#039;d spent so much time dicking around that a covert ops [[Raven Guard]] had enough time to set up shop in the rafters and promptly shot Fulgrim through the head, just as he was getting to the good part of the story. If Perturabo was anything other than a humorless emo fuckwad, he&#039;d have felt some glee at seeing his time-wasting, but still conscious brother describing the experience of getting a nine-inch titanium spike stuck in his brain after spending ten minutes, cackling hysterically at the wasted effort.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite all this, we should remember that Fulgrim was a pretty cool guy before he fell to [[Chaos]]. He wasn&#039;t always prideful to a fault, and in fact, many Primarchs were his friends. [[Ferrus Manus]] (oh the irony) and [[Horus]] were both extremely close to Fulgrim, and Fulgrim was the only Primarch [[Konrad Curze]] really trusted. He wasn&#039;t just handsome superficially, and actually had a decent sense of compassion, which the Imperium desperately needed at the time. Also, the past tense is necessary because Fulgrim&#039;s present circumstances seem to change way faster than [[Games Workshop|GW]] has ever moved any plot, ever. He&#039;d been a painting, a snake, a dude, possessed by a [[Daemon#Greater Daemons|greater daemon,]] and all kinds of shit. Fuck knows which if any of these actually were him, or just dickish Slaaneshi daemons taking the piss. No one knows fucking anything anymore. No, really! For a while [[what|his soul was literally stuck in a painting]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray a la Dorian Gray], and a greater daemon possessed his body, making him do [[/d/|some pretty fucked up things]] even by the standards of an [[Space Marine|Astartes]] following [[Slaanesh]], which is saying a &#039;&#039;lot&#039;&#039;. Fulgrim now has full control of his body again, or, at least that&#039;s what he says. (Because Chaos has always been [[Alpha Legion|honest and trustworthy, amirite?]])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Angron]] thinks that Fulgrim is an [[Pretty Marines|over-pomped dandy]] and regularly pays his daemonworld visits, where he pummels Fulgrim&#039;s four-armed snake ass into a bloody pulp and generally makes a mockery of Slaanesh in general... Or so [[Khorne]] fanboys would have you believe, as they constantly rant on about how Angron &amp;quot;[[/tg/ gets shit done|GETS SHIT DONE!]]&amp;quot; and conveniently ignore that, whilst Fulgrim has &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Awesome|KILLED TWO FUCKING PRIMARCHS]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[FAIL|KILLED ONE FUCKING PRIMARCH (Though that is still a massive achievement)]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, [[Ferrus Manus| KILLED A FUCKING PRIMARCH]] AND [[Roboute Guilliman|TURNED ANOTHER INTO A VEGETABLE FOR 10,000 FUCKING YEARS]], not to mention dozens, if not hundreds of clones of Ferrus made by Fabius Bile, Angron&#039;s Primarch body count currently stands at ZERO. Though of course, what Angron does kill at least stays fucking dead. Meanwhile, Fulgrim&#039;s mark, Guilliman, came back to life as a fucking rejected DOTA/[[StarCraft]] character concept. To top it off, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;it&#039;s heavily implied that Guilliman managed to kill Fulgrim before his nap&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Guilliman got owned by Fulgrim before taking some warp dust and going into a coma. Some of the official lore cites this as a claim that Fulgrim was the best duelist amongst the primarchs, but frankly, such a claim is laughable considering [[Jaghatai Khan|who]] [[Sanguinius|his]] [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|brothers]] [[Leman Russ|are]]. (If only they were around to dispute that claim.)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Anyway, Fulgrim is trapped crying in a painting while Angron&#039;s mind is his own. So, yes, Slaaneshi do indeed suck.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Nevermind he got out! Also, he got fucked in the ass by a medieval torture instrument in the latest [[Black Library]] book. This is CANON! [[/d/|Not like he hadn&#039;t enjoyed it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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He is the second Primarch to receive his own miniature as part of [[Forge World]]&#039;s Character Series. (Surprisingly, it&#039;s not just a set piece. It&#039;s an actual miniature!) &lt;br /&gt;
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==Youth==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:YoungFulgrim.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Even as a teen, Fulgrim resembled a [[Gay|Preening Bishonen Fuckboi]] in a horrid [[Slaanesh|Yaoi fanfic.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Like his brother Primarchs, the infant Fulgrim was abducted by the four [[Gods of Chaos]], who weren&#039;t really into the whole Primarch thing. Also, like his brother Primarchs, he was eventually thrown onto a planet of his own since the four Gods found out that raising infant Primarchs really wasn&#039;t worth the trouble, especially when you can get [[Xenos|some other suckers]] to do it for you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim landed on the planet [[Chemos]], whose people had been dependent on interstellar trade to make everything work. The warpstorms caused by the birth of Slaanesh made such trade impossible, meaning the planet didn&#039;t have the resources to sustain a large population. Art, culture, and recreation were sacrificed for the need to survive. By the time baby Fulgrim landed, the planet&#039;s resources had been so stretched that any orphan found was normally killed so as not to put further strain on the planets dwindling resources. Indeed, the scouts that found him during a storm debated as to whether or not they should kill the infant. Unfortunately for the scout arguing for the death penalty, the infant Primarch was equipped with a little failsafe called adorable cuteness that made most people want to protect him. Those who found him named the infant Fulgrim in honor of one of the ancient gods of Chemos. He was raised by a Chemosian family, and eventually grew up to completely turn Chemos&#039; fortunes around. &lt;br /&gt;
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As with all the Primarchs, Fulgrim grew up at an unnatural rate. He started off differently from other Primarchs, as he wasn&#039;t a warrior, or a freedom fighter, or an object of worship, but a simple laborer in one of Chemos&#039; many factories. Once working, he immediately showed talent in all things, improving machines to make them more efficient, working hours that would kill a normal human, and re-discovering new technologies that had been lost since the Dark Age of Technology. He improved Chemos&#039; infrastructure so much that people actually began to have time for other things again. Most importantly of all, with Fulgrim came a will and a drive for Chemos&#039; people to rise up above their level of merely existing and become something greater than drab factory workers struggling for survival. Perhaps the people of Chemos would never become great, but now they could reach for the stars once more. &lt;br /&gt;
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It was then that the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emperor]] arrived. As soon as Fulgrim saw the Emperor, he took a knee and swore fealty. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;What, no jokes about kneeling? This Website has changed&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. The Emperor then showed Fulgrim his [[First Founding|Legion]], now only 200 strong. It is said that upon seeing his sons displayed before him, entire companies reduced to only one Astartes, yet still proudly bearing their banner, Fulgrim knelt. He then rose and addressed his sons, saying, &amp;quot;You are the Emperor&#039;s chosen, his heralds, his warriors, his children, for this is only the beginning.&amp;quot; Just as the people of Chemos were born again, so would the Third Legion&#039;s Astartes forge themselves into a new future under a new master.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Terra==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Fulgrim by slaine69.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Fulgrim in all his psychotic, bishōnen hawtness.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Despite the [[Great Crusade]] being well underway, Fulgrim and the Emperor went back to [[Earth|Terra]] to reunite Fulgrim with his [[Space Marines|legion]], why he didn&#039;t bring them along so they could get going is anybody’s guess.&lt;br /&gt;
When they finally reached Terra, Fulgrim was introduced to his legion and discovered that some accident had reduced the [[gene-seed]]s of the III Legion to the point that only 200 remained. Without the Primarch, it had been a slow and laborious process of repairing the damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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But never let it be said that Fulgrim didn&#039;t know how to bounce back from any hit, as he met his legion he made the customary speech to his legion and named them The [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. &lt;br /&gt;
The Emperor&#039;s already ginormous ego was pleased by this speech, so he allowed Fulgrim and his legion to use the Aquila as their symbol. Never let it be said that the Emperor doesn&#039;t reward those who strokes his ego pleasingly.&lt;br /&gt;
As all other Primarchs, his legion quickly gave him a nickname. Since Fulgrim in their eyes had risen their legion from the ashes, Fulgrim got the name The Phoenician. As all other Primarchs, his brothers had a nickname for him too; since Fulgrim liked to dress in one outlandish costume after another (to the point that Lady Gaga would ask him to tone it down some), they named him Peacock (this name would also be used to describe the nature of his legion when not in battle).&lt;br /&gt;
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Just how long it took Fulgrim to get his legion back on track has been forgotten but Fulgrim&#039;s Flagship was completed 160 years before the [[Horus Heresy]], so he probably took some time as no Primarch wants to be seen dead without his flagship. Especially if that Primarch is the most vainglorious man ever to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately for Fulgrim, the Emperor couldn&#039;t sit around and wait for Fulgrim to finish his work in bringing the Emperor&#039;s Children back to full strength, so Fulgrim&#039;s legion were merged with [[Horus]]&#039;s [[Black Legion|Luna Wolves]] until they were ready to go out on their own. As a sidenote, Fulgrim&#039;s flagship took twice as long to build as any other Gloriana-class battleship ever had because he insisted on it being absolutely perfect. We don&#039;t know how long that was but more than likely it was &#039;&#039;quite&#039;&#039; a long while. &lt;br /&gt;
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Among Fulgrim&#039;s closest friends were Horus and [[Ferrus Manus]], whom he nicknamed The Gorgon, and whom he shared a closer friendship with than the rest of his brothers despite the two of them being perhaps the most different of all the Primarchs in terms of interests and attitude.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Their first meeting was on Terra beneath Mount Narodnya, the greatest forge of the Urals, where Ferrus Manus was busy toiling with the forge-masters who had once served the Terrawatt Clan during the [[Unification Wars]] soon after his arrival from [[Medusa]]. The Primarch of the Iron Hands had been demonstrating his phenomenal skill and the miraculous powers of his liquid metal hands when Fulgrim, the Primarch of the III Legion, the Emperor&#039;s Children, and his elite Phoenix Guard, had descended upon the sprawling forge complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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Neither Primarchs had met each other before, but when they meet each other they immediately felt a kinship, either that or the fact that each of them were 3.5 meters tall, one a regal-looking albino and the other a muscular strongman with living metal all over his hands and that all artisans in the room immediately prostrated themselves in front of them, might have been a pretty HUGE clue. That said, Ferrus&#039; conversations with [[Lorgar]] tended to run to about half a minute, and that was only if Ferrus couldn&#039;t help it, so maybe there is something in that story.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Ferrus Manus later told of what had happened beneath Mount Narodnya, he said that Fulgrim had come claiming that he had come to forge the most perfect weapon ever created for The Great Crusade. Ferrus Manus, ever prideful, could not let such boast go unchallenged (if he had been less prideful, he might have been a head taller than he is today, not to mention alive). Laughing in Fulgrim&#039;s face, Ferrus Manus answered Fulgrim&#039;s boast by declaring that such pansy hands as Fulgrim&#039;s could never forge anything. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim accepted the challenge with &amp;quot;regal grace&amp;quot; and both Primarchs stripped to the waist, making every female and male (&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;who bent that way&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[gay|Primarch abs do &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; give a shit about your sexuality]]) artisan swoon in pleasure. For three months the Primarchs worked unceasingly at the forge until at last their weapons were complete. Fulgrim had forged an exquisite warhammer--Forgebreaker--that could level a mountain with a single blow, and Ferrus Manus a golden bladed sword--Fireblade--that forever burned with the fire of the forge.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well never let it be said that both Primarchs didn&#039;t appreciate fine craftsmanship; Fulgrim declared that Fireblade equal of that borne by the legendary hero Nuada Silverhand and Ferrus swore that only the mighty thunder gods of Nordyc legend were fit to bear such a magnificent warhammer.&lt;br /&gt;
Without a word the two exchanged weapons; unknown at the time was the fact that [[Drop Site Massacre|Fulgrim would later use Forgebreaker to beat Ferrus to a bloody pulp when Ferrus stubbornly refused to join Horus&#039;s rebellion]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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It was after the whole affair beneath Mount Nerodnya that Fulgrim came up with Ferrus&#039;s nickname. Arriving at the Imperial Palace, [[Sanguinius]] of the [[Blood Angels]] had arrived bearing gifts from his home world of [[Baal]]. Exquisite statues from the glowing rock of Baal, priceless gem-stones and wondrous artifacts of aragonite, opal, and tourmaline. The lord of the Blood Angels had brought enough to fill a dozen wings of the Palace with the greatest wonders imaginable (apparently Sanguinius tried to imitate Fulgrim&#039;s trick of stroking the Emperor´s ego). Fulgrim was ecstatic over the wonders Sanguinius had brought, but Ferrus Manus had little time for such things and declared that such frivolities were a waste of time when there was still a galaxy out there to conquer. Fulgrim jokingly answered this by saying that Ferrus was a terrible old Gorgon, the nickname stuck and word had it that Ferrus became quite fond of the nickname (considering that his Legion Terminators were called Gorgon Terminators and had unique Gorgon Pattern Armor, he must have). Might have had something to do with his own legion calling him the Medusan, that or the fact his homeworld is called MEDUSA... (GW subtlety strikes again).  &lt;br /&gt;
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These anecdotes notwithstanding, Fulgrim couldn&#039;t hang around Terra all day and having already been merged with the Luna Wolves, they quickly set off on The Great Crusade along with Horus.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
Fulgrim&#039;s quest for perfection began as a need to live up to the honors bestowed upon his legion-- the only legion to bear the Emperor&#039;s own heraldry as its symbol. In his eyes they were a legion apart, set above their brothers by the Emperor&#039;s own hand. Indeed it is true that while the Emperor&#039;s Children perhaps could not practice attrition warfare as well as the Iron Warriors, or drop assault as well as the Blood Angels, or fleet engagements as well as the [[Imperial Fists]], instead taking a jack of all trades approach, and most importantly had within them the will and drive to become paragons in all things. Fulgrim saw in his children what the Emperor meant for space marines to be, not only experts at war and carnage, but noble, strong, and excelling in all matters. Because of this the Emperor&#039;s Children were noted to place an emphasis on artistic matters and physical appearance, values that to other Astartes seemed vainglorious. &lt;br /&gt;
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By the time Roboute Guilliman had been discovered, Fulgrim was still campaigning alongside Horus and had yet to strike out independently. It seemed that there was some resistance against the Emperor&#039;s Children leaving for the Great Crusade; firstly from his brothers who felt that the Legion had not properly recovered from the genetic degradation that had reduced them to only two hundred marines. For Fulgrim&#039;s part he hated this as a form of pity and felt that his legion was being underutilized, resenting that resources were being diverted to legions which already had strong battle records. Secondly, the Courts of Terra had originally felt that the Emperor&#039;s Children, being largely of noble-stock, were one of the most internally cooperative Legions when they required military agents and had reservations against losing such troops to a different commander, even if it was their own gene-father, so Malcador sent his agents into Fulgrim&#039;s new expeditionary fleet to keep tabs on him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim&#039;s first fully independent action was to bring compliance to the Feudal World of &#039;&#039;&#039;Byzas&#039;&#039;&#039; with only seven marines. Arguing where if [[Leman Russ]] could conquer a world with only 800 men, and [[Horus]] could do it with 80, then Fulgrim would do it with 8 &#039;&#039;(including himself)&#039;&#039;. Such a perfect victory would silence the criticisms of his brothers and his detractors at court. When he landed on Byzas, the hereditary governor of the planet was only too happy to agree to compliance, although they would first have to deal with the various factions of rebels among the nobility as well as the secret societies and revolutionaries throughout the populace. No less than ten different factions attempted to poison Fulgrim on his very first day of arrival &#039;&#039;(something he considered very rude)&#039;&#039; so Fulgrim set himself the goal of achieving compliance within one month. Although the world could not match the Astartes physically or technologically they did have a comparatively advanced form of swordsmanship and philosophy regarding the search for perfection. Even so he could not otherwise hope to wage war against so many factions with only eight men, and set about uniting all of the factions against him for the sake of efficiency &#039;&#039;(even where some more sensible factions wanted to ally themselves with him)&#039;&#039;, presenting a unified front for him to behead and successfully bringing the world to compliance on time, while incorporating the world&#039;s primitive fundamentals of swordplay and philosophy into his own ideals of perfection.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Great Crusade went on, Fulgrim&#039;s focus on perfection became an obsession. It began to alienate their fellow Astartes as more egotistical legionaries like Eidolon ascended up the command chain. During one campaign, Horus came close to rebuking Fulgrim personally for the problems his officer caused. It&#039;s likely that this started when he found the infamous Blade of the Laer, which was more or less responsible for everything going wrong for the IIIrd (and by extension the Xth), as it was inhabited by what is assumed to be a [[Keeper of Secrets]]. Anyways, the corruption&#039;s effects were subtle at first, but eventually a lot of Fulgrim&#039;s restraint vanished, and he became a pretty huge [[Eldrad|dick]]. Also, he became convinced that he&#039;d have to go beyond the Emperor&#039;s work to reach perfection (he felt this way because of the Blight that his legion suffered), leading to him approving of Fabius Bile&#039;s [[Extra Heresy|experiments]] ([[Noise Marines|you can guess what that led to]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Naturally, ugly-ass [[Mortarion]] hated Fulgrim and his vanity--seems he fantasised about Fulgrim&#039;s finery rotting away in the fumes of [[Barbarus]]. [[Jaghatai Khan|Jaghatai]] didn&#039;t have much time for Fulgrim&#039;s boasting about his swordsmanship either and told him during a post-Ulanor meeting that &amp;quot;You have your prowess, but I would leave you choking on it.&amp;quot; Fulgrim at the time did not take particularly well to this, though later he would&#039;ve found this promise strangely arousing. Interestingly, the Khan also made some revealing comparisons of Sanguinius and Fulgrim (though he kept these observations to himself). While both Primarchs were absolutely resplendent, the Khan noted that Sanguinius seemed to be born to such splendor and made it look natural, while Fulgrim looked like a bit of a try-hard, and that while Sanguinius seemed willing to cast aside his finery in a heartbeat, Fulgrim would rather die. The Khan was also of the opinion that Fulgrim could be &amp;quot;irritatingly stupid at times&amp;quot;. So clearly not the best of buds. &lt;br /&gt;
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One incident of note was with the Primarch [[Konrad Curze]] of the [[Night Lords]]. Fulgrim tutored Curze and was the only primarch the Night Haunter really trusted or confided in, due likely in no small part to the fact that Fulgrim was the only Primarch Curze had met on Nostramo who he didn&#039;t see dying horribly in his visions. During one campaign alongside the Imperial Fists, Curze had one of the violent fits of future seeing that he was prone to, and Fulgrim rushed to his aid. Curze told him of visions he had of death at the hands of his father (the Emperor) and Primarchs fighting one another. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim was (understandably) deeply troubled by this, and decided to confide in [[Rogal Dorn]], well known for his [[derp| cool head and fairness]]. In the end though, it turned out to be a mistake as Dorn reacted badly to Curze&#039;s visions. Angered by the very idea that someone would have visions of the Emperor killing one of his sons, he confronted Curze. We don&#039;t know what &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; he said to him, but we do know a) Dorn was [[Crimson Fists|brutally honest]] and b) that it caused Curze to freak out, attack him and then flee. This little incident helped bring about the fall of the Night Lords Legion, but how far it was Fulgrim&#039;s, Dorn&#039;s, or Curze&#039;s responsibility is largely due to Konrad&#039;s absence from Nostramo resulting in his whole Legion becoming staffed by murderers, criminals, and other scum; the very people he so loathed. This being said, Fulgrim should either have kept his mouth shut or found someone less... inflexible than Rogal Dorn to try and help Konrad. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
Old lore says that during the heresy, Fulgrim tried to persuade [[Horus]] to quit his bullshit, but then Horus somehow managed to coerce Fulgrim into joining him, using &amp;quot;decadent pastimes&amp;quot;. Most fa/tg/uys suspect it was a promise of untold amounts of drugs and buttsex. Black Library retconned/modify this; the reason Fulgrim turned was because of the daemon sword he found on Laer, which he became corrupted by. Ironically enough, Laer had been purged of a Slaanesh-worshipping xenos race before this. Then again, they didn&#039;t know it at the time, so, maybe this is Slaanesh&#039;s form of poetic payback? Or maybe (S)he is just a clever (wo)man. Seeking eternal peace from unknowingly murdering his best friend and brother, [[Ferrus Manus]], Fulgrim sacrificed his soul to the daemon inhabiting that sword. The Daemon possessing the sword said sweet nothings into Fulgrim&#039;s ear, promising it would ease his pain... So, let&#039;s recap. This sword was talking to Fulgrim in his head, claimed it could do the unthinkable, and was promising not to fuck him over. So obviously he HAD to trust it! Anyways, Fulgrim gets his soul squashed, paintings get haunted, corpses get implicitly buggered, virgins are featured on [[/d/]], drugs are taken, blood is spilled, noise is made, Slaanesh&#039;s nipple(s) get hard, et cetera...&lt;br /&gt;
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On an interesting note, Horus promises to save his brother from his fate, which is insane, since he just spent all day fucking over everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fulgrim claims to have exorcised the daemon from himself, however, he was later forced to admit that he was lying when Lorgar threatened to expose his possession to the other traitor Legions. Since then, he actually has exercised the daemon, and duped Perturabo into helping him become a Daemon Prince himself. What a twist! After that, Fulgrim only showed up when Horus bothered to summon him; in the meantime he was probably screwing with Slaanesh, or his/her legion, or whatever. All the drugs were probably involved.&lt;br /&gt;
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His first appearance after becoming a Daemon Prince was in the Battle of Dwell where he, Horus, and Mortarion fought against the forces of the [[Iron Hands]], who were still pissed about Fulgrim beheading their primarch, proving that they couldn&#039;t just let bygones be bygones. In addition, 58 Imperial legions (not [[First Founding|those]] legions), the [[Salamanders]], and the [[White Scars]].&lt;br /&gt;
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After having kicked the loyalist forces&#039; collective ass and sending them skulking off, the Iron Hands commander [[Shadrak Meduson]] tried to assassinate Mortarion and Fulgrim by ambushing them in their ship with five [[Storm Eagle#Fire Raptor|Fire Raptors]]. Loe and behold, they failed and ran off again, and just to show that even Black Library doesn&#039;t know the meaning of OP, Fulgrim used his psychic powers to destroy one of the loyalists&#039; crafts before it could escape... yeah, next time, we´ll probably have [[Magnus the Red]] perform party tricks by juggling flagships with both hands tied behind his back. (Seriously why does [[Black Library]] keep trying to build suspense by having people try to assassinate the traitor primarchs when we KNOW they don&#039;t die... yet, so obviously we already know the outcome of the attempt.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Next time, Fulgrim disguised himself as some serpent god of the Knight House of Devine in order to corrupt them... sure, why not? Makes as much sense as anything else. &lt;br /&gt;
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After Molech, Fulgrim disappeared again, to the point that [[Eidolon]] was basically running the EC&#039;s operations, with only a third of the Legion and a sudden competence. (Seriously, read Path of Heaven. He&#039;s finally a believable commander, corrupt as he is.) Horus didn&#039;t have a clue where Fulgrim was, or what he was up to, and those Emperor&#039;s Children who hadn&#039;t gone totally crazy had to admit that the Warp-infused, megalomaniac Warmaster now cared about them more than their own dad.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Siege of Terra Rogal Dorn kicked Fulgrim&#039;s daemonic ass hard enough that even if he couldn&#039;t die, Fulgrim was hurt so bad he ragequit the entire siege, abandoning his legion to get mauled by an embarrassingly small force of Imperial Fists. Or at least, that&#039;s what the Imperials want you to think. In reality, he mostly just fucked around (platonically) with Dorn in his pre-snake form for a while before Dorn stabbed him. At which point, Fulgrim instantly healed the wound but then got bored and left to go on a murder orgy amongst Terra&#039;s civies. &lt;br /&gt;
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TL;DR: Fulgrim&#039;s sword fucked him in the ass; this makes him asinine, especially considering the fact that he used it to kill [[Ferrus Manus|his best friend]], a man who could &#039;&#039;[[awesome|punch weapons into existence with his bare (metal) hands]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Despite&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Because everything about him screams &amp;quot;[[Matt Ward|flaming homo]]&amp;quot; and/or &amp;quot;[[Weeaboo|Anime Character]]&amp;quot; (He&#039;s literally [[Jojo&#039;s Bizarre Adventure|Dio Brando]]), he did [[gets shit done|get shit done]] in the heresy/post-heresy [[Khorne|killing two other Primarchs]], which is pretty badass. In fact, we all should be grateful he put [[Roboute Guilliman|Granddaddy smurf]] in stasis because he would have likely run off into the eye of terror never to return like half the other other surviving loyalist Primarchs. On that note, it&#039;s time to talk about the [[Battle of Thessala|big battle]]. What we know is, the battle was in realspace and both primarchs had a retinue of their best marines. Fulgrim [[Awesome|managed to out-maneuver everyone&#039;s favorite Spiritual Liege]] and separate Guilliman from his retinue with a giant black cloud; by the time the Ultramarines finally found Guilliman through the smog, the loyalist primarch was bleeding on the floor... &#039;&#039;Kinky...&#039;&#039; (Many Sons of Guilliman sacrificed their lives fighting Fulgrim to buy enough time to evacuate their Primarch)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GRANDPA SMURF IS WHAT AGAIN!?== &lt;br /&gt;
In the closing years of the 41st millennium, the combined force of the Adeptus Mechanicus and the [[Yvraine|Eldar]] have [[GW|magically]] brought [[Roboute Guilliman]] out of stasis. The blue giant is now stretching his limbs and restraining himself from smashing his face against the wall over the state of the Imperium. Suffice to say, news spread fast, and eventually reached the daemon Primarchs. Fulgrim was shown to be——surprise!——quite alive, and to say he was [[Butthurt]] over hearing the revelation that Big Bobby Blue [[Troll|is up and about, possibly giving him the trollface]] [[Rage|is a colossal understatement.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Not to mention he was the first to actually attack the big blue in front of a crowd, who were celebrating his return and most recent victory. Knowing that Slaanesh is alive, Guilliman could never again enjoy something without having to fear the powers of chaos were trying to corrupt him. Dang that must suck. Or, [[Slaanesh|succ.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to &#039;&#039;The Fracture of Biel-Tan&#039;&#039;, He was allegedly spotted outside the Eye of Terror for the first time in 10,000 years when the Emperor&#039;s Children assaulted the Imperial Mining World of Extremis Six, wherein they [[Khorne|slaughtered everything.]]  Expect more to follow, because now that Primarchs are fair game, it&#039;s hard to imagine GW passing up the chance to make a giant multi-armed serpent daemon Primarch, especially the one that turned Papa Smurf into a vegetable. Impatient gamers can now kitbash (at very high cost) the new Morathi model to get close to the effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another piece of lore from the &#039;&#039;Phoenix Rising&#039;&#039; book states that a giant, snake bodied, 3 sword wielding, whip handed motherfucker is leading a traitor host known as the Grand Cacophony and slaughtering Imperial Guard and Eldar alike.&lt;br /&gt;
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And now in &#039;&#039;Faith and Fury&#039;&#039; we have ANOTHER tease of our favorite snakeboi. Some Emperor&#039;s Children topple a planet called Yhedaris and &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, Fulgrim went to Istvaan III after a sonic beacon caught his attention. There, he met the last loyal Emperor&#039;s Children, the Ancient Dreadnought Rylanor, alongside some Thousand Sons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rylanor revealed he prepared a special &amp;quot;Fuck You&amp;quot; for Fulgrim:  Horus Heresy-era Virus Bomb, which he detonated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Buuuut a Thousand Sons psyker named Akhtar contained the blast, while Fulgrim opened up the Dreadnought like a can of peaches, and offered Rylanor a chance to become like him, but Rylanor told Fulgrim to shove it up his scaly arse.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another Thousand Sons, Vistorio, impressed by Rylanor&#039;s massive balls in front of Fulgrim and not wishing to see Rylanor become Fulgrim&#039;s personal fleshlight, pulled up his Bolt-Pistol and capped Akhtar. The Life-Eater Virus was free and consumed Istvaan III and everyone there. Snakey-Boi Fulgrim survived, but his pride was wounded.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:FulgrimMini.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Fulgrim &amp;lt;s&amp;gt; The Collector &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; the Illuminator, Primarch of the Emperor&#039;s Children.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fulgrim is very good at fighting both rank and file and HQ&#039;s due to his high initiative (8) granting extra attacks and his good save in close combat. Also he is really fast thanks to Crusader and Fleet, so he will have an easy time to reach combat. Fulgrim has some pretty good defense with 2+, 5++ (3++ in CC), Primarch rule, T6/W6 and whenever he passes an armor or invulnerable save in CC on a 6 the enemy takes a blind test. For weapons he has a shredding volkite charger, which is ok, and the Sword of Laer, an AP2 and rending close combat weapon, which is surprisingly weak for a Primarch weapon, striking at S 6 and with only 5 attack base. But never fear, &#039;cause you can always upgrade him to carry Fireblade(at least for battles set during the Great Crusade) at no additional cost!&lt;br /&gt;
Fireblade is a Master Crafted Paragon Blade that instant kills on to wound rolls of 5+, [[Derp|and is so much better than the Blade of the Laer it actually hurts]], so always use it. With it Fulgrim can really step up and fight other Primarch without fear, like he should.&lt;br /&gt;
On the supporting side, he is actually one of the best Primarchs: Sire of the Emperor&#039;s Children force him to challenge any opponents who has at least WS 5 (not a real downside, as you would love to challenge almost anyone due to his Sublime Swordsman rule) and also grants him Crusader, but more importantly gives to every units with Adeptus Astartes (Emperor&#039;s Children) on the table plus Fulgrim himself +2 to Combat Resolution, meaning easy victories from your units, that will almost certainly overrun the other side thanks to Crusader and their mostly superior initiative. Also, units with Adeptus Astartes (Emperor&#039;s Children) can Reroll their reserves roll, whether successful or not. Lastly, Strategic Planning let him choose one warlord trait from either the Legion Warlord Traits or the Strategic Traits, making him able to adapt to his enemies and the situations he will face.&lt;br /&gt;
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His cheap cost combined with his powerful force multiplier abilities conspire to make this sick fuck an excellent choice, but he&#039;ll need a transport to avoid getting shot to death before he reaches combat. Plasma in particular will just make anyone using Fulgrim cry, so keep this in mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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He should have also had access to the &#039;&#039;&#039;MURDER SWORD&#039;&#039;&#039; (Anathame), but Forge World forgot he had it in the books. Now the books have progressed far enough to know that [[Erebus]] took the sword back and smashed it into eight daggers.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Fulgrim VS other Primarchs:===&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying. With that in mind this section is how Fulgrim fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise. Please note that all the various abilities are taken into account when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. In essence, the fights are supposed to be in a &amp;quot;Vacuum&amp;quot; for simplicity, but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?) so naturally Fulgrim will use Fireblade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times (Talon), wounds 2.667 times, 0.889 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.555 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 0.889 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.555.&lt;br /&gt;
**Apparently, a fair fight...but taking into account the -1 to WS and S from the Talon of Horus at the first wounds that Fulgrim will receive, the scale will decisively tip in favor of Horus. Also he could use Worldbreaker to easily negate Fulgrim +2 attack for his initiative, but on the long term the Talon is more effective.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 1.069 (1.248) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.736 (0.915) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage (if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t choose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait) but is frailer (the irony!) with a weaker save and 1 less wound (I guess that&#039;s the catch to have nails inserted directly into your brain...) so he will need 6 (6.1) rounds to kill Fulgrim, with the latter also needing 6 (5.5), but since Fulgrim has higher initiative he&#039;ll strike first and kill Angron just slightly before he&#039;s killed. Also with Child of Terra there, it&#039;s almost no contest...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.555 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 6 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The first fight against a Primarch who isn&#039;t specialised in dueling and Fulgrim (most appropriately), wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 5.629 (Master-crafted) times, wounds 3.284 times (Child of Terra), 1.094 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.761 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.611 times, wounds 2.107 times, 0.702 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.369 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The infamous match! And also one of the closest, with the same outcome as the lore unless Fulgrim either has the Laer Blade or he doesn&#039;t have Child of Terra, in which case he doesn&#039;t really stand a chance. With the Hammer, Ferrus is like Fulgrim&#039;s worst nightmare, &#039;cause strikedown will go off even if the strike doesn&#039;t wound him, reducing his initiative to 4 and stripping him of all his advantages. In the end, Fulgrim will win on the 11th round, while Ferrus needs 12 rounds to come on top, so Fulgrim did really well to take the hammer away. Also, a really epic fight!&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;Its worth noting that in the fluff during this duel Ferrus was fighting with Fireblade and Fulgrim with Forgebreaker. Here&#039;s how well that goes: against a primarch Fireblade is only a little better than just using his bare hands, though against most Primarchs Ferrus still wounds on a 2+ so it&#039;s all right for him. For Fulgrim though Forgebreaker is a HUGE upgrade. He goes from wounding of 4+ to 2+ thanks to strength 10. Most importantly Ferrus will no longer have Concussive to mitigate Fulgrim&#039;s sublime swordsman rules so he still get&#039;s more attacks. Even worse is that since Fulgrim can concuss Ferrus down to initiative 1, sublime swordsman will generate SEVEN additional attacks whenever concuss hits and hitting so much means it should be every turn. And even worse is that since Ferrus is down to initiative 1 a lot of the time, Blind is much much more likely to hit. It doesn&#039;t even matter if we make Forgebreaker unwieldy in Fulgrim&#039;s hands because unwieldy doesn&#039;t actually reduce initiative, it just makes you fight at that initiative step, and putting out so much more damage means striking at the same time simply doesn&#039;t matter. In the first turn Fulgrim should get that first unsaved wound to concuss and after that it gets disgusting. Once Fulgrim concusses Ferrus he gets 12(!) attacks (since sublime swordsman doesn&#039;t limit the bonus attacks it can give) hitting on 3+ (8 hits) wounding on 2+ (5.3 wounds) which is a frankly disgusting 3.5 wounds after saves. IWND will take that down to 3.177 but holy shit is Ferrus screwed. He dies after 3 rounds of combat and quite frankly he gets wrecked like a bitch. With Forgebreaker there&#039;s a reasonable chance that Fulgrim could take on Horus simply because the combination of sublime swordsman and concussive is just so powerful (it becomes a matter of where or not Horus fails his 3+ save against stat penalties before the claw cripples Fulgrim enough - and odds are against Lupercal in it).&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Turns out Fulgrim WAS the better smith, after all.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.75 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times, 1.167 times after saves and FNF and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Easy win for Fulgrim.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.556 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1 (And every round he is not Concussed): hits 6 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wounds after saves and 0.444 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 (And every round he IS Concussed): hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and 0.111 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Another really difficult fight for Fulgrim, but he should come out on top nevertheless, &#039;cause even counting in the 55% chance of a lower damage output he still does a little bit more damage on the whole. Still, really hard.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Lorgar&lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.0833 times, 0.694 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4.556 times, wounds 2.53 times, 1.265 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.932 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 5.333 times/4 times (Concussed), wounds 3.556 times/2.667 (Concussed), 1.778 times/1.333 (Concussed) after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.444/1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easy victory: even if counting in concussive, Fulgrim will do a lot more damage to Lorgar, and he also has +1 wound.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: as always, psychic powers not included.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3 times, 1 wounds after saves and 0.667 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 wounds after saves and 0.333 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Blinded: hits 1.667 times, wounds 1.111 times, 0.37 times after saves and 0.037 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667, 0.555 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo (with Fulgrim Blinded) hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222, 0.741 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim surprisingly loses as after the first round he will be brought to I 4 (by Strikedown) and then Blinded and or Concussed pretty much every round (actually 85% of the total rounds, if my calculations are correct, that is more than enough for Perturabo to destroy him).&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.92 times and wounds 1.701 times, 0.567 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.234 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.556, 1.778 wounds after saves and 1.444 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easily wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.5 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4.5 times, wounds 3, 1.5 wounds after saves and 1.167 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Another easy win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 1 wounds (Scourge)/0.75 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.667/0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 4.667/3.5 times, wounds 3.111/2.333 times, 2.07/1.555 wounds after saves and 1.737/1.222 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim easily win in a challenge. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: even with Hit &amp;amp; Run and Sire of Raven Guard Corax cannot win this fight, unless he gets lucky with Blind.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 5.333 times (Fireblade is MC), wounds 3.555 times, 1.528 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.195 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.083 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.75 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Concussed Fulgrim (cannot happen earlier than round 3): Hits 3 times, wounds 2 times, 0.75 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds.&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Gladius Incandor Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.74 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Gladius Incandor Round 3 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 0.988 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.654 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Hand of Dominion Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman with Hand of Dominion Round 3 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.777 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.593 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**An unsurprising loss for Guilliman. If Guilliman chooses to use the Gladius Incandor, Fulgrim will out-damage him in the long run, and if he chooses to concuss Fulgrim, Fulgrim temporarily loses his extra attacks, but Guilliman cannot put out enough damage to keep Fulgrim concussed, meaning Fulgrim gets back up to his normal initiative, gains his extra attacks back, and beats down Guilliman.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Fulgrim vs. Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: Hits 2.142 (6 attacks, Master Crafted) times, wounds 1.903 times (Child of Terra), down to 0.952 after saves and 0.592 after IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman Russ: Hits 4.381 times, wounds 3.65, 1.217 wounds after saves and 0.884 wounds after IWND (Axe of Helwinter)&lt;br /&gt;
** Fulgrim puts up a better fight than most with his 3++ save, but ultimately his damage output is totally crippled by having to hit on 5s, just like all the other Primarchs, and he is slowly ground out.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fulgrim vs Jaghatai &lt;br /&gt;
**Jaghatai hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 0.666 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 2.333 times, 0.777 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**If Fulgrim doesn&#039;t have Child of Terra it&#039;s a dead tie as they have the same initiative (the White Tiger Dao has Duelist&#039;s Edge), with it, Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Fulgrim VS Sanguinius&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 3 times (Fireblade), wounds 2.333 times (Child of Terra), 1.167 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2: hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.722 times, 1.361 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.028 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 1: hits 4.667 times (Blade), wounds 4.148 times, 1.383 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.049 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius on the charge: hits 5.333 times, wounds 5.574 times (including HoW), 1.859 after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.525 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius Round 2+: hits 4 times, wounds 3.556 times, 1.185 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.852 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius loses as Fulgrim has a chance of killing him in round 5 (5.94 wounds average), and even if not Fulgrim has the higher initiative in round 6.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: On the charge Sanguinius can beat Fulgrim by round 5 (5.93 wounds average) while lowering Fulgrim&#039;s own chances, but if he doesn&#039;t Fulgrim wins.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TL;DR version: Fulgrim is a really good challenger, having better chances against almost any other Primarch except for Horus, Perturabo (Only with Forgebreaker) and Leman Russ. He struggles a little with something that can impair his Initiative (Concussive, Strikedown), but is still a really tough Primarch and difficult to put down in a fight, like he should be.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:zFulgrimXHorus.jpg|The face that launched a 1,000 slashfics. The sad part is that dialogue is lifted directly from a Horus Heresy book.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim WIP by SelenaH.jpg|One sexy and psychopathic bastard.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim by kabarsa.jpg|Here he&#039;s an ugly bald old man covered in scars. NOT HAWT. Also he has black wings for some reason. [[Sanguinius|ORIGINAL WINGS DO NOT STEAL]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim and ferrus by thevampiredio.jpg|[[Ferrus Manus|Ferrus]] is such a troll. From a Horus Heresy book too.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fulgrim&amp;amp;FerrusArt.jpg|In the end Ferrus did give it a try after all.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fulgrim is perfect by Karooz.jpg|His perfection will drive you to the point of orgasm.&lt;br /&gt;
File:I would read it.jpg|The vidya geam&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1429866033465.jpg|In a way, he&#039;s kinda like the galactic bicycle of Primarchs.&lt;br /&gt;
File:10962088 973159792695856 706338122 n.jpg| Fulgrim after his ascension.&lt;br /&gt;
File:REFLECTION CRACK&#039;D by Natalia Kikicheva.jpg| Not Pictured: the Pear of Anguish&lt;br /&gt;
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