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		<title>Black Rage</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred [[Horus|Deceiving]] The [[Red Thirst|bleeding]], It&#039;s over|The bleeding,Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
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		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88953</id>
		<title>Black Rage</title>
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		<updated>2021-06-28T03:43:39Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred [[Horus|Deceiving]] The [[Red Thirst|bleeding]], It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88952</id>
		<title>Black Rage</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88952"/>
		<updated>2021-06-28T03:34:39Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred [[Horus|Deceiving]] The [[bleeding|Red Thirst]], It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88951</id>
		<title>Black Rage</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88951"/>
		<updated>2021-06-28T03:30:15Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred ([[Horus|Deceiving]]) The ([[bleeding|Red Thirst ]]), It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>2001:67C:2660:425:92E2:BAFF:FE82:1A24</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88950</id>
		<title>Black Rage</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Black_Rage&amp;diff=88950"/>
		<updated>2021-06-28T03:27:07Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred {{Deceiving|Horus}} The bleeding, It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Black Rage</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart, The hatred Deceiving The bleeding, It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Black Rage</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding The screaming, was tearing me apart&lt;br /&gt;
The hatred Deceiving The bleeding, It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Black Rage</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Topquote|The lying The bleeding&lt;br /&gt;
The screaming, was tearing me apart&lt;br /&gt;
The hatred Deceiving The bleeding It&#039;s over|Five Finger Death Punch}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All [[Blood Angels]] and their successors (except the [[Lamenters]] . . . until recently) possess two genetic flaws, one being the [[Red Thirst]] and the other one, by far the worse, being the Black Rage which, when breaking a sweat in combat, sometimes causes them to go batshit crazy and forget about the [[Emprah]] for a bit, become lost in bloodlust, or even begin hallucinating that they are [[Sanguinius]] in his final battle against Horus. Other [[Space Marine]] chapters watch the Blood Angels in battle with a mixture of awe, fear, and Codex induced jealousy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It all essentially harks back to the end of the [[Horus Heresy]], where [[Horus]] the arch-traitor laid down the smack-down like no other, killing [[Sanguinius]] before getting served by the Emprah. The death of their [[Primarch]] essentially traumatized the Blood Angels so hard that it became a genetic flaw. A closely related phenomenon is the marginally less severe Red Thirst, which existed long before the Horus Heresy (possibly as an attempt by Khorne to push the Blood Angels into serving him).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In either case, those marines ([[Moriar the Chosen|and dreadnoughts]]) who suffer from the Red Thirst and Black Rage get grouped into a special non-codex [[Death Company]], where they get stripped of any iconography and get their armor painted black with red x&#039;es. This force usually is accompanied by a [[Chaplain]], almost entirely focus on close combat with thunder hammers and other [[Power Weapon]]s, and tend to use [[Jump Pack]]s. Those unlucky bastards who didn&#039;t die in the fight either get chained up to get a Viking Crewcut by [[Astorath]] or get shepherded into a tower for them to brood until the next fight where they can be put out of their misery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thankfully the Red Thirst and Black Rage are not some kind of contagious space cooties, so other chapters are safe from it. It is certainly not related to Weeaboo Rage when Astartes forces are on the receiving end of Tau weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, there have been many attempts to cure it, including [[Corbulo]]&#039;s neverending search, experimenting with [[Corvus Corax]]&#039;s research, and [[Fabius Bile|FABULOUS Bile]]&#039;s Bloodborn experiments with the Red Grail. However, there are no definitive cures for it, and the only documented people who managed to remain sane after contracting it are Chaplain Lemartes (who was later instated as &#039;&#039;Guardian of the Lost&#039;&#039;) and [[Mephiston]], who managed to overcome the Rage altogether to become a badass vampire motherfucker extraordinaire. Rumor also had it that the [[Lamenters]] chapter also possessed a cure for the Black Rage within their gene-seed, but considering the fact that they&#039;ve been shat upon since their conception, the odds of finding a live Lamenter are next-to-impossible and the black rage came back after a while anyway. The Angels Resplendent were able to suppress the Black Rage just by becoming artists (ala. Bob Ross I guess). But then they were visited by a &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot; when all the Librarians and senior members were gone. This &amp;quot;prophet&amp;quot;, most likely a daemon, told them they were being retarded and they should embrace the Black Rage, eventually leading them to a civil war before becoming the Angels Penitent, noted for their larger-than-average Death Company. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HOWEVER, in the 42nd Milennium, [[Belisarius Cawl]] seems to have found a cure as Blood Angels Primaris do not suffer from the Black Rage though they do have an extreme form of the Red Thirst. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Whether this will stay that way or not isn&#039;t known.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Recent updates have shown that Primaris can indeed succumb to the Black Rage, where they will be put into Death Company Intercessor squads and thrown in the general direction of the enemy, much like their predecessors. Ironically, this means that [[Gabriel Seth]] lost the last criticism he can bring up against the Primaris, as they too must contend with the same curses that afflict the original Sons of Sanguinius. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to tell if you have the Black Rage==&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think the enemy commander looks like [[Horus]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you think your battle brothers look a lot like [[Rogal Dorn]] and the [[Emperor]].&lt;br /&gt;
* If you remember the terrible Feng Shui inside of the &#039;&#039;[[Vengeful Spirit]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* If you have an overwhelming urge to [[Khorne|spill, shed, or drink the blood of your enemies]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rip and tear|If you like killing too damn much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* If you get so angry even an [[Angry Marine]] would like to offer you a cold one to CALM THE FUCK DOWN.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category:Space Marines]][[Category:Blood Angels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Chaos_Space_Marines&amp;diff=120316</id>
		<title>Chaos Space Marines</title>
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		<updated>2021-06-28T03:12:34Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{heresy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say: &amp;quot;A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with [[Black Legion|sword]], and with [[World Eaters|hunger]], and with [[Death Guard|death]], and with [[Chaos Spawn|the beasts of the earth.]]|Revelation 6:8}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|The treachery of demons is nothing compared to the betrayal of an angel.|Brenna Yovanoff}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Crimson Slaughter Chaos Marine ukitakumuki.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Chaos up in this motherfucker.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Chaos Space Marines&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Heretic Astartes&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Astartes Traitoris&#039;&#039;&#039;) are, simply enough, [[Space Marines]] that have fallen to, or were inducted to, [[Chaos]]. They are also one of the main factions in [[Warhammer 40,000]]. The first Chaos Marines were born during the [[Horus Heresy]] from the nine [[Traitor Legion]]s. Since then, many Space Marines (and even a few full [[Space Marine Chapter|Chapters]]) have gone rogue, becoming Renegades. However, this is mostly a [[fluff]] distinction, as the [[Codex]] (or the models for that matter) does not differentiate between the two. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
CSM supplement their lack of more easily available loyalist resources (recruits, tech, supplies, etc.) by way of daemons and Warp energy from the dark Gods, plundered weapons from whoever is unlucky enough to lose an engagement to them, and renegades from the Imperium, which are always available because the Imperium [[Grimdark|treats its subjects like steampunk condoms]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Black crusade by yogh art-d5bqzea.jpg|thumb|450px|left|Birds have not been so scary for 65 million years.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos Space Marines are basically Imperial Space Marines who have forsaken their oath to the Imperium of Man to serve the Ruinous Powers, which is [[Heresy]]. Marines do this for a number of reasons, although the cause of this is usually finding that the ways of Chaos suit them more than the Imperium, or the classic case of the Imperium dicking them over (largely the case for post-heresy chapters).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The origins of Chaos Space Marines go back to [[Erebus]] of the Word Bearers, the first Chaos Marine, who then corrupted the recently-emotionally-discouraged Primarch [[Lorgar]] to Chaos. Erebus would then set into motion the events that would lead to Warmaster Horus being wounded on Davin&#039;s moon, where he would fall to the corruptions of Chaos. Horus, supreme Warmaster of the Imperium, would then gather [[Mortarion|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;]] [[Omegon|8]] [[Konrad Curze|more]] [[Alpharius|of]] [[Angron|his]] [[Magnus the Red|distraught]] [[Perturabo|brother]] [[Fulgrim|Primarchs]] to his cause, along with a good fraction of Imperial forces and the Adeptus Mechanicus in full-scale rebellion, resulting in the Horus Heresy. When Horus got roflstomped by the Emprah during their duel, most of the Traitors fled to the Eye of Terror because of the loss of leadership, resulting in what would be known as &amp;quot;Chaos Space Marines&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Naturally, they fight just like Space Marines except &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;on average they are stronger, more experienced, and older, given that the majority stood with their Primarchs during the Great Crusade&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; only worse because Mary Sues need punching bags. They keep using shit they were equipped with prior to the Horus Heresy such as [[bolter]]s and the ever useful Space Marine [[plot armor|plot]] [[pauldrons|armor]], which would explain why they didn&#039;t fistfuck each other to death before reaching the Eye of Terror, or why they would follow the lead of a particular [[Saturday]] [[Abaddon|morning cartoon villain]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos Marines are also commonly known to compensate their aging weapons (which didn&#039;t really age much, considering how fucktarded Imperium tech support is) by using demon magic for that extra edge in combat. Naturally they lack some of the weapons and [[Standard Template Construct|equipment Imperium &amp;quot;invented&amp;quot; (or rather dug up) for the last 10 000 years]], such as [[Razorback Transport|Razorbacks]], [[Centurion Squad|Centurion suits]], [[Autogun|assault cannons]] or [[Grav-Weaponry|grav guns]], and although they often get their hands on such pieces of tech (mostly by killing corpse-worshipers who own them), their Dark Mechanicum allies have few to zero spare parts and/or ammo for them, those trophies rarely last in use for a long time. The latter reason is also why Chaos Marines no longer use some of them more delicate and advanced tech like Land Speeder variants or Whirlwinds, which they definitely HAD before the Heresy - those things require just too much maintenance to fit into their more independent and chaotic combat doctrines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1286933675792.jpg|400px|right|thumb|The eternal war rages on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For all their powers from Chaos, however, most of them are nowhere nearly as organized as their loyalist counterparts. Turning to Chaos tends to drive Marines insane, usually causing them to lose much of the tactical prowess they had as loyalists. That said, organized legions like the Word Bearers, Thousand Sons, Iron Warriors, Death Guard (once they got their shit together), and Black Legion still remain much more of a competent military force than most of the other traitor legions. This is emphasized in the Black Legion novels, where the narrator has to explain to the freaking Inquisition, of all people, that the Chaos Legions don&#039;t have any dedicated supply lines, logistics, infrastructure, shipyards, independent manufacturing, or even the ability to feed their own forces. And they&#039;re still a great threat despite all this..&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...though many of those problems were eventually solved as the Traitor Legions regained their Heresy-era numbers (or even more in some cases), and various industries were built or captured from the Imperium; the Idolator ship and two Planet Killers were made 100% from Chaos factories.&lt;br /&gt;
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After all, the tree of heresy can grow from the smallest seed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Different warbands of Chaos Space Marines are every bit as prone to fighting each other as they are anything else for any number of reasons; evil doesn&#039;t get along with evil, they&#039;re all nuts and just want to fight something, or the other warband worships a different Chaos god. Yeah, these guys are nuts. Infighting inside individual warbands is not unheard off, and their leaders always have to watch their back because every single Marine has hopes of killing their superiors and taking over. So yeah, if they didn&#039;t have the [[Eye of Terror]] to hide in and the Imperium wasn&#039;t so idiot-ball prone, it probably would have killed them by now. However, when they DO get their shit together, they fuck up the Imperium on a scale undreamed of by [[War of the Beast|almost]] every other race in Warhammer. See the Dominion of Fire or the Cholercaust Blood Crusade. &#039;&#039;&#039;GODDAMN IT, KHORNATE BERZERKERS ARE AWESOME.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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They &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; the oldest fogies (or at least the ones from traitor legions are anyway) in the setting, barring the [[Eldar|space elves]], [[Bjorn the Fell Handed|that one angry viking dreadnought]] (who&#039;s about their age), the  [[Necrons|Tomb King expys]] and maybe a few of the [[Tyranid|Omnivorous Space Bug Lizards things]] but now they&#039;ve been retconned. CSM today may be some of the veterans from the Heresy or they could just be newfags that decided they were too cool for the Imperium. Fucking hell this is depressing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many Chaos Marines eventually dedicate themselves to one of the four [[Chaos Gods]], becoming little more than an extension of the god&#039;s will. This path has great risk and great reward, as the Chaos Gods are quite capricious; between two equally-dedicated champions, one will become a [[Chaos Spawn|horrific beast that should not be named]], whereas the other will achieve apotheosis and become a [[Daemon Prince]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Khorne|Khornate Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Those who worship Khorne (such as the [[World Eaters]] Traitor Legion) become close quarters badasses full of [[rage|RAAAAAAAAAGGGEEEE]]!. Khornate champions are among the best dedicated melee fighters in the setting. They are insane, ruthless, and barbaric, and continually lust after BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD and SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Marines dedicated to Khorne are usually called [[Khorne Berzerkers]], after the Berzerkers of the World Eaters Legion, of whom [[Kharn]] (swell guy by the way) is the most famous. They are famed for their use of the [[chainaxe]] and their fucktastically fearless charges. They also get the best speeches. Although do note that Khornate followers are not all pure-CQC fighters, any weapon that spills blood in honorable combat like heavy weapons or vehicles is welcomed by Khorne. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!! BUTTER FOR THE POP KHORNE!!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Nurgle|Nurglic Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; These guys are rotting, diseased, decaying sacks of flesh who can take hits that would kill a squad of Terminators. They&#039;re something of a meat shield as far as Chaos is concerned  (although not as much as [[Cornholio the Cultist|Chaos Cultists]]). They&#039;ve contracted every disease in creation and then some. Despite looking like a bag of things best not described, Nurgle&#039;s followers won&#039;t hesitate to give you a big, long, family hug. D&#039;awww. The [[Death Guard]] fell to Nurgle, but it wasn&#039;t really their fault.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Slaanesh|Slaaneshi Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; The followers of Slaanesh simply want to experience pleasure to the highest degree, most of which usually involves the euphoria gained from killing another person. Thus, Slaaneshi followers typically hype themselves up on drugs in order to intensify the sensations they experience, whether from sex or from slaughter. Slaaneshi Marines have taken so many drugs their bodies &#039;&#039;start to produce them normally.&#039;&#039; And yes, this is really canon. They also get penis fingers to give them the extra edge in combat (somehow) and hyperactive awareness, meaning that Slaaneshi followers typically move so fast that they&#039;re at par with Eldar reflexes. [[Doomrider]] is one of the most famous Slaaneshi champions (at least on /tg/), although he isn&#039;t from the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]], the Chaos Legion that fell to Slaanesh; [[Lucius the Eternal]], on the other hand, is.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Tzeentch|Tzeentchian Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; All followers of Tzeentch are tricky and conniving, and many of them are also powerful [[psyker]]s (as Tzeentch is the god of magic). Warriors under Tzeentch tend to rape anything in ranged combat with either enhanced weapons or SPACE MAGIC that would turn heroes into [[Chaos Spawn]], squa-&#039;&#039;&#039;GRAABBRLBLLRBLRLRBLR&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**Ahem. To continue where the previous writer left off... squads of infantry into ash, and vehicles into puddles of molten goo. The [[Thousand Sons]] Legion is dedicated to Tzeentch; their (former) chief diviner, [[Ahriman]], is one of the better-known Tzeentchian sorcerers.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Chaos Undivided|Undivided]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Back in the good ol&#039; days, Chaos Undivided was the concept of worshiping Chaos as a combined entity or pantheon. The [[Word Bearers]] were probably the most well-known worshippers of Chaos Undivided. Since then, it has been largely retconned; instead, Chaos Undivided refers to Chaos Marines with the support of all four Chaos gods... because apparently that&#039;s different somehow (the former is monotheistic worship of Chaos as though Chaos itself was a god, the latter is the worship of aspects of Chaos as separate deities). This has left the Word Bearers in something of a weird spot, as their core concept has been badly mangled. Although, this is not completely out of place: Undivided followers &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; have the support of all four Chaos Gods due to their doctrine, but because they don&#039;t swear complete servitude to one like what the [[Death Guard]] and [[World Eaters]] did, they don&#039;t receive the full power of each Chaos God either.  This isn&#039;t a bad thing, though, as even at a glance it&#039;s easy to see how the gods of Chaos compliment each other when undivided.  And undivided worshipers are usually not insane.  Plus, the more you do to prove yourself to each god, the more benefits you get from each.  It&#039;s a longer game than swearing yourself to just one, but the end benefits are larger as well.  If you can survive long enough to reap your rewards.  Most importantly, perhaps, is that the critical flaws of each of the four is balanced out by the others, so while you&#039;ll be a jack of all trades you aren&#039;t going to be a one-trick pony most of your enemies know how to counter.  And you&#039;ll still have Chaos empowerment and the sanity to use it intelligently.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that many bands of Undivided Marines exploit Chaos for their own gain and feel little devotion to the Ruinous Powers, seeing it as no more than a tool for their goals. The [[Alpha Legion]], for instance, are closet loyalists (or double heretics, or triple heretics, or brothas doin&#039; it for themselves, nobody knows), whereas the [[Night Lords]] Legion only cares about spreading terror, which Chaos is undoubtedly useful for, but they look down upon the religious. Similarly, the [[Soul Drinkers]], a Renegade Chapter with an entire book series, are enemies of both Chaos and the [[Imperium of Man]] (though they fight for the [[Emperor]]&#039;s ideals; it&#039;s complicated, but likely has roots in the current Imperium being the antithesis or something akin to the [[Imperial Truth]]), although most in the Imperium would consider them &amp;quot;Chaos Marines.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Malal|Malice]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Way back when, [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] had a [[Chaos Gods#The_Other_Ones|minor Chaos God]] named Malal. Malal was a paradox, in that he is the embodiment of Chaos&#039; chaotic behavior. His main goal was the spread of chaos (not the Warp energies, but actual chaos like anarchy and disruption) by screwing up the plans of the other Ruinous Powers, so he had dedicated Champions that hunted down other Chaos Champions and generally dicked over the Chaos Gods. However, [[Games Workshop]] had to remove him from the setting due to a trademark dispute with the author that invented him. In 40k, meanwhile, there&#039;s a warband called the [[Sons of Malice]] that hunt down other Chaos Marines and seem to worship a minor Chaos power named &amp;quot;Malice.&amp;quot; This has led /tg/ to believe that Malal/Malice exists in 40k and can be invoked upon for power, although this is of dubious canonicity at best.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Traitor Legions==&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Horus Heresy]] struck, nine of the original twenty Legions turned against the [[Emprah]]. These guys are basically the original and the best. All of these survived the Siege of Terra and escaped into the [[Eye of Terror]] with a very large number of bodies (Space Marine legions frequently numbered up to 100,000 members by the time of the Heresy). Over time, they have become widely scattered, generally working in mixed warbands combining a variety of Traitor Legionnaires, Renegade Marines, and lesser humans (frequently rebellious Imperial Guard). However, it should be noted that quite a few Chaos Marines still fight as a Legion (generally drastically reduced in size) led by their original (now-Daemon) Primarch (if they&#039;re still alive, anyway). It&#039;s very rare to see more than a Grand Company (roughly equal in size to a Chapter of loyalist Marines) in any given battle unless it&#039;s an organized invasion (of which the most notable examples are the Black Crusades led by a [[Abaddon|certain armless failure]]), the Legion&#039;s Primarch himself calls them to fuck some shit up, or you&#039;re dealing with the Word Bearers or Iron Warriors, who are generally more organized than anybody else. The following are the nine Traitor Legions: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Emperor&#039;s Children]]: Also known as pretty marines, their Primarch is [[Fulgrim]], who is now &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;a painting&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; getting his serpentine dick sucked by a swarm of daemonettes on his pleasure planet. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;possibly still a painting&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; They don&#039;t operate as a Legion at all anymore, mostly because [[Kharn]] and the slave wars kinda fucked all their shit up. Anyway, they were basically OCD hyper-perfectionists that also really liked to party. They got ever-more hedonistic, attracted the attention of [[Slaanesh]], and the rest is history. Their Cult unit is the [[Noise Marines]], which are (as their name implies) Chaos Marines that like to kill people with noise. This used to mean sweet heavy-metal guitars, but GW retconned that, so now they have less-impressive (but still cool) &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;bass cannons&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; sonic cannons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Iron Warriors]]: The evil twins of the [[Imperial Fists]], they really like to build shit and then tear (somebody else&#039;s) shit down. In other words, they are masters of siege warfare (basically, rooting out cover-camping bitches). Their Primarch is [[Perturabo]]. They&#039;re generally the second most coherent of the Traitor Legions, retaining most of their pre-Heresy organization and numbers, although their great companies are generally independent and only answer to Perturabo himself, who on his part doesn&#039;t give a fuck and let them fight each other just for lulz. Also, they probably created the [[Obliterator|Obliterator Virus]], seeing as how they seem to have special connections with the Obliterator Cult. Sadly, they can no longer take [[Basilisk|Basilisks]] and don&#039;t have any special rules or Cult units (seeing as how that was quite broken back in 3rd), but GW did throw them a bone in the new book with the [[Warpsmith]] (not to be confused with a [[Warsmith]], which is also Iron Warriors-related). One of their noted leaders is [[Honsou]], a Warsmith in the running for &amp;quot;evilest villain.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Night Lords]]: Their Primarch was [[Konrad Curze]] (also known as the Night Haunter). They&#039;re basically space-terrorists, which (unsurprisingly) means they created Raptors, the sociopathic, predatory answer to the loyalists&#039; Assault Marines. They prefer ambush tactics, which is quite difficult when you&#039;re walking around in Power Amour and wearing stupid bat-wing helmets. They also like screaming like maniacs to cause terror. They are one of the few legions (in fact, pretty much the only one) who refuse to employ Daemons or live in the Eye of Terror. (Well, at least the warbands that remained loyal to Kurze&#039;s vision. The biggest extant warband worships Chaos and is lead by a Daemon Prince.) They&#039;re one of the few Traitor Legion that has a dead Primarch, on account of Curze&#039;s desire to go down in a fucked up version of suicide by cop to vindicate his obsessive belief that monsters and criminals should be put down like rabid dogs.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[World Eaters]]: [[Angron]]- Dissolved after [[Kharn]] turned the legion against themselves, what a guy. Now acting as roaming warbands and mercenaries. They still unite every now and then when Angron wants to fuck something&#039;s shit up, such as [[Cadia]]. The &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;only&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; legion known to get shit done when called up to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Death Guard]]: [[Mortarion]] - Didn&#039;t show up much in the fluff until the release of the Death Guard codex, though plague marines and champions can be found in many other warbands and, next to world-eater berserkers, are the most common cult unit. Also before Thirteenth Black Crusade Typhus&#039;s Plague Fleet kicked major ass in systems all around the Eye of Terror, turning entire planetary populations into zombies. As of 8th edition, they are now their own separate army. Oh, and Mortarion has returned, and his model is [[skub|controversial in terms of appearance]]. They also possess a planet known as the &amp;quot;Plague Planet&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Thousand Sons]]: [[Magnus the Red]] - Another legion that doesn&#039;t show up much at all in fluff after the Horus Heresy and [[Rubric Marines|rubric marines]] don&#039;t show up much in other legions&#039; warbands and most warbands use their own sorcerers. Except for [[Ahriman]]; Ahriman goes out trolling the Harlequins and those few [[Inquisitor]]s. Ahriman also does this because Tzeentch likes dicking Magnus over in his passive-aggressive way. Fluff-wise, Thousand Sons walk through the Universe, searching for knowledge like ancient books and artifacts to research and nerd out in their libraries, and magicking the shit out of anyone stupid or bold enough to stand on their way. Being smart and cunning motherfuckers they fight only where it really needed and only on their own terms (read: very rarely). Have recently succeeded in fucking up the Fenris furries with Big-Red leading them. And are now their own army and range of models, including a giant daemon version of Magnus with wings. &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Black Legion]]: [[Horus]] (kind of) - Originally called the Luna Wolves and then the Sons of Horus, though Abaddon formally disbanded the Legion and used its assets and whatever ragtag allies he had as the foundation of the Black Legion. Unites every now and then when Abaddon wants to launch another Black Crusade. It&#039;s honestly a miracle they survived this long, seriously if you look at their battles and losses it really makes no sense how they managed to live long enough to become the Black Legion, let alone the wars after. Known for calling black crusades, massive chaos invasions that consist untold numbers of chaos space marines (provided there&#039;s an ass to pull them out of), daemons, and general renegades and heretics all working together to try and tear the Imperium a new asshole. They are the largest legion by far, stated to outnumber the Word Bearers ten to one, namely because Abaddon preys on the other Legions and lures their troops into his own. Unfortunately, they have no real central command structure outside of a Black Crusade, and even then Abaddon can&#039;t keep the Legion&#039;s shit together for very long before they start breaking off every which way in search of a fight, usually getting slaughtered not long afterward.   &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Word Bearers]]: [[Lorgar]] -  The Only Traitor Legion to have retained its Chaplains, who would later become the first [[Dark Apostle]]s, who can often lead a Word Bearers&#039; Warband in the place of a Chaos Lord or Champion. They&#039;re one of the more organized and complete legions as they have a central daemon world of their own named &amp;quot;Sicarus&amp;quot;. Sicarus is covered in dozens of temples and cathedrals devoted to Chaos. The Word Bearers are still united under the banner of their Primarch: Lorgar (even if the lazy bastard never does anything these days but sit around doing nothing). The most coherent after the Iron Warriors, seen as their great companies (or Hosts, as they call them) are still working together under the watchful eye of the Dark Council.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Alpha Legion]]: [[Alpharius]]/[[Omegon]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;- No such legion or primarchs exists, further speculation on this issue is [[heresy]] and will result in execution. Said non-existent Legion has never trolled the Imperium for the last 10,000 years by faking the death of every member, any idea to the contrary is [[HERESY]]. Also, masters of &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;sneaking around undetected&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; fucking their enemies&#039; brains with multi-step Just As Planned schemes, that aren&#039;t overly complicated or lack the fallback plans (unlike Thousand Sons ones). In fact, their fallback-fallback plans usually have their own fallback plans just in case. Pretty much everything Imperium knows about them is a lie, suspected to be one, or a truth no one believes in since it looks like a lie.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Renegades ===&lt;br /&gt;
The legions of old are not the only source of Chaos Space Marines, with the fluff no longer being clear on whether they even are the largest source anymore. It&#039;s either the traitor legions or the Ultramarines who have produced the most Chaos Marines and renegade Chapters.  Loyalist marines get turned to Chaos like all the time (well, okay, it&#039;s actually pretty rare considering the limited numbers of Space Marines, but significant enough). Most often it&#039;s just a few individual marines or squads, sometimes going as far as entire companies, and rarely (but not rarely enough) entire chapters turn to Chaos. Sometimes it&#039;s the Imperium&#039;s own fault for turning initially loyal marines against the system due to a misunderstanding or an overzealous Inquisitor declaring them heretics and the new &#039;renegades&#039; then realize that since no matter what they do they&#039;ll be viewed as traitors by the Imperium, they may as well become traitors in reality. Sometimes, like with the [[Abyssal Crusade]], it&#039;s a case of [[just as planned]] succeeding so hard Tzeentch isn&#039;t even miffed that particular plot gets tied up. Other times, marines &amp;quot;caught&amp;quot; some Chaos taint due to fighting Chaos too much without proper Librarian control (bonus points if Librarians themselves get corrupted), committing terrible crimes in their fights against Ruinous Powers, or trying to fight Chaos with Chaos, like the [[Relictors]]. And finally, a Chapters&#039; own flaws in temperament may leave them all too easily manipulated into bringing their damnation upon themselves.  &lt;br /&gt;
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What is the most surprising, is that shit still happens despite loyalist marines being heavily brainwashed, even more than Death Korps of Krieg or Sisters of Battle (both of which are famous for having close to zero Chaos corruption rate). More so, marines even have a specific organ, to make them even more brainwashable. Some speculate the reason behind this is just Astartes longevity - after all SoBs and Kriegers didn&#039;t get continuously exposed to Ruinous Powers for hundreds of years. Others say that marines are just naturally susceptible to corruption, which makes sense if you believe the story daemons tell: that Primarchs were made with the help of The Four, and were given their power to make them something more than just genetically engineered humans. A theory from 30k states that the reason Marines are more easily turned to Chaos is that Marines naturally are fanatical in almost anything they do, and when feeling scolded by the very thing they are fanatical about it makes them do a full 180&amp;quot; to worship something else instead. This is what happened to the [[Word Bearers]], and most modern-day Marines are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;at least as religious as the Word Bearers were before the Horus Heresy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; either atheist or view the Emperor as a sort of Living Saint. Marines that worship anything are rare and looked upon as oddballs by the rest of the Adeptus Astartes.  Usually it&#039;s whole Chapters rather than individuals that do it.  Being Space Marines are highly valued by Chaos, they might simply be singled out for dedicated attempts to corrupt them whereas even Sisters of Battle are basically ignored and either get corrupted the same way as Guardsmen or not at all because Chaos doesn&#039;t care about them.  It does care about Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
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ADB once said that Abaddon embodies the old Biblical thing about Satan refusing to bow down to man, and this might be applied to most Chaos Space Marines. Space Marines are expected to give their whole lives - centuries (if not millennia) and sometimes even [[Dreadnought|beyond that]] - to war, so that ordinary humans, most of whom will never have to fight for their lives, can live in relative comfort. Unsurprisingly many Space Marines do resent this on some level, although regular indoctrination helps them cope with that particular feeling by redirecting it toward xenos/heretics in [[rip and tear|a more productive way]]. It has been suggested that Marines genuinely treating mortals with respect are probably in the minority, though, and then along comes a Word Bearer talking about these gods who will set them free, who&#039;ll make them the masters instead of the servants... Despite the nigh-constant indoctrination, these words don&#039;t always fall on deaf ears.  Which is still really weird since the Astartes voluntarily &#039;&#039;chose&#039;&#039; their life barring the rare Chapter that conscripts/kidnaps aspirants.  Sure, they might change their mind over time, but they didn&#039;t go through all those trials and hardships and training just to decide it wasn&#039;t worthwhile after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Renegades also have rather divergent attitudes to the Traitor Primarchs. Some venerate them as the Daemonic overlords that they are. Others wonder why everyone seems to fanboy themselves over beings who &amp;quot;lived&amp;quot; thousands of years ago and even then only for a few verifiable centuries before vanishing up their own arses to sit out the wars that the renegade has potentially been fighting for far longer than the Primarchs were ever alive for.&lt;br /&gt;
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No matter the true reason behind, this shit happens, and from one retcon to another after-Heresy chapter renegades become more and more prevalent to the point that they could actually outnumber the old Legions, even if the Black Legion isn&#039;t shy about inducting any who is willing to join and swear fealty to [[Abaddon]] amongst their ranks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; is also used to refer to non-Chaos aligned Astartes and other rogue but non-Chaos forces.  They aren&#039;t generally against the Imperium, either.  At worst just pirating as needed to survive and little else but it isn’t uncommon for them to (futilely) trying to find absolution or [[Soul Drinkers|just ignoring their own expulsion and continuing to serve as usual]]. Which is hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
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==A &amp;quot;Meta-History&amp;quot; of Sorts==&lt;br /&gt;
I suppose we should [[Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader|start at the beginning]]? So, back in the day, Chaos introduced in the tome Slaves To Darkness, which was effectively an expansion to Rogue Trader. That&#039;s right,&lt;br /&gt;
the original 40k didn&#039;t have Chaos, although it did have Warp Demons. In the original Rogue Trader narrative, the Emperor was encased in the Golden Throne because he was thousands of years old and he needed life force from psykers in order to survive. Once Slaves to Darkness and its sister book Lost and the Damned were introduced, it was revealed that there was this event called the Horus Heresy, and Horus was a primarch that rebelled and nearly killed the Emperor. Talk about a pretty hefty background update! &lt;br /&gt;
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Crunchwise, the CSM were just marines with some different wargear selection, as well as the ability to get Chaos mutations. It gets really confusing from there (Can you say, D1000 chart with 100+ mutations?) so the less said about the First Edition days, the better. The first, most important thing to remember is that Chaos was effectively a WHFB expy, so it included beastmen, daemons and renegades [[Awesome|all rolled into one]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===2nd Ed: First Age of Whoop-Ass===&lt;br /&gt;
Hoo-boy... I want you to picture it, if you can, a codex wherein Chaos Lords had no stats under 5, daemons could be freely taken in any FO slot (or the equivalent for 2nd Ed) and everything, &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; could push a loyalist&#039;s shit in. The CSM received a promotion in the fluff to primary antagonists after getting retconned into the reason as to why the Emperor ascended to the Golden Throne (via Horus traitorous ways and that mortal wound). Those were the days of 2nd edition; that&#039;s when Chaos was a unified front led by an interesting character on a 10,000 year quest for bloody vengeance. These were the days when a [[Bloodthirster]] would use an [[Avatar]] as a speedbump, and yet the only trump against CSM were the Eldar (And to a lesser extent the Tyranids when they evolved beyond Genestealer cults). Your characters could equip a Bloodletter&#039;s sword if you so chose to do so, as well as Chaos Terminator armour that could save on a 2d6 roll of 2+. Noise Marines, Thousand Sons, Khorne Berzerkers and Plague Marines all got their start here, and they started out as &#039;&#039;Troops&#039;&#039; (or rather, their second ed equivalent). You could also take [[Foulspawn]], a special character Nurgle [[Chaos Spawn|Thing]]/[[Daemon Prince]] with 19 wounds (!) that stole wounds from his kills and could regenerate lost wounds every turn. And guess what? You could field beasts, renegades and daemons in your army. It was also possible to give Chaos Marines equipment and vehicles that only their loyalist equivalents get nowadays (including [[Dude, Where&#039;s my Land Speeder?|assault cannons, storm bolters, cyclone missile launchers, and various support vehicles]]), in order to accurately represent the equipment used by Renegades from later Foundings. However, they had to pay an extra 50% traitor tax in order to take them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, it sounds fucking insane and the coolest thing ever, and it was. Arguably, things were a bit nascent because in spite of all the other extras, they were still very much just space marines with other armies rolled into it. They had the same stats and many of the same rules and wargear as their loyalist counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===3rd Ed: Roller Coaster into [[Awesome]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Third edition started by screwing everyone: the rules were fucked up to try and shift the balance of power towards infantry and away from characters (so sayeth GW, anyway). Regardless, this is one of a few times that GW actually dialed back the power creep inherent in their game systems to such a degree that all existing armies got hosed (worst of all, Eldar) and CSM were no exception. The Codex pumped out was a hackneyed shadow of its former self that needed constant reference checks to the main rules because all the rules for your stuff got printed there instead of your codex. This first release however brought about the much-loved [[Obliterators]], [[Possessed]] and [[Raptors]] and GW did make rules for entire cult armies available for download on their website at the time, which was a thing GW used to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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Halfway through its life-cycle, GW introduced [[Tau]] and [[Necrons]], breaking the game with [[Fish of Fury]] and just simply existing, respectively. [[List of 40K Cheese|In the midst of this renewed cheese surge, the CSM got a second lease on life]], cranking their competitiveness to second place behind the dreaded third ed &#039;crons. These were the days of the 200+ point CSM lord that could out-punch fucking ANYTHING! We&#039;re talking about a wargear sheet noticeably larger than any other faction, which also included the curious ability to make your aspiring champions psykers. You could load up a squad with stacks of veteran skills, sneaking them into position, moving through cover and then finishing with a furious charge. [[Defiler|That enemy crab thing]] gets its big introduction as a monstrous creature AND a walker! These were the days when you &#039;&#039;bought&#039;&#039; as opposed to rolled for the powers your Possessed had; where you could dedicate vehicles to the Gods, and that gave you certain options (thus creating the Sonic Dreadnought... and Predator). You could take a Slaaneshi psyker and give him and his unit immunity from shooting attacks with a well rolled minor psychic power. Best of all, these were the days of fielding Traitor Legions -  ridiculously unbalanced lists that would either fall flat on their faces and cost way too much (Thousand Sons) or tear the fucking table in half (Iron Warriors).&lt;br /&gt;
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Games Workshop tried valiantly to dial back the cheese by releasing Imperial Assassins, Daemonhunters and Witchhunters but once the Eye of Terror campaign hit and the official (and also cheesy) Lost and the Damned rules were out, third ed was firmly [[Cultist-chan|captoored by chaoz.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===4th Ed: The Sudden Betrayal===&lt;br /&gt;
That rat-bastard, pointy-eared fuck! In 4th ed, [[Gav Thorpe]] raped Chaos and left her to die in a fucking gutter. Those broken-as-hell traitor legions lists? Instead of fixing them for players that liked the other legions, they were removed. Veteran skills? Gone. Wargear? Toast. Lost and the Damned? More like &amp;quot;lost-a la vista,&amp;quot; amirite. Daemons? Worst of all, Thorpe figured they needed their own, super-shitty codex. CSM players were &#039;&#039;pissed&#039;&#039; at the &amp;quot;streamlining&amp;quot; their armies got, but they endured it because at the time there were a few nifty silver linings. You could still technically have your cult army/legion/whatever and they were all not bad; that is to say the codex was at least internally balanced. During this time, the Eldar got pumped from worse than last place to playable, Tyranids got an update that was fair as well, Fish of Fury got pulled from the Tau Codex and the loyalists got a decent buff in the 4th ed SM codices. Nothing spectacular, but everything felt fair; it felt like we could have fun with each other and save our bitter sniping for the rightly-deserving Necron players and their totes OP 3E rules. For a brief period of time, the rules system was stable and there was hope that this trend might continue...&lt;br /&gt;
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===5th Ed: Abandon (the Despoiler) Ship!===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Matt Ward|And then this happened.]] GW, in a moment of clarity and business acumen, summoned Matt Ward from the pit to turn the 40K metagame on its larynx through its asshole to promote sales of their most popular line, Space Marines. [[Dawn of War]] had just come out and Relic/THQ made the Space Marines really good (and Imperial Guard, and Eldar, [[Dawn of Eldar|especially the Eldar]] but they would have to wait until 6E to get their cheese on). CSM didn&#039;t get a release in this edition because GW decided instead to dedicate their time to fanboy service while throwing a bone to the Dark Eldar and Orks. This was when the 4th ed. rules were used to create the well-known CSM mono-build for 5th ed (Lash Prince, Plague Marines, Termicide, Obliterators and &#039;&#039;maybe&#039;&#039; a Chosen squad for guiding deep strikes). However, once the 5th ed Grey Knights landed, Chaos was truly on its ass. These were the days all the jokes made against Chaos finally made it to the internets and the forces of Chaos shifted from that terrifying adversary feared across the galaxy to the Imperium&#039;s punching bag &#039;&#039;du jour&#039;&#039;. Many were the veteran players who simply left in disgust.&lt;br /&gt;
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===6th Ed: A New NOPE!===&lt;br /&gt;
Rumours started pouring in furiously when 6th ed was nearing release. Close combat will have AP values? Oooo! What&#039;s this - CSM will be the first codex out the gate? Hot damn! New models? BITCHIN&#039;! Revamped rules to finally reclaim some of the fucking glory we lost in the last two goddamn editions? Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;
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So, 2013 has come and gone along with that release and I think we can all say how disappointing that truly was. Of the few bright spots was [[Helldrake|a new flyer with a *AHEM* &#039;&#039;gigantic exhaust port&#039;&#039;]]. (&amp;quot;Gaze into the Eye of Terror!&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Glory to the Goatse of Chaos!&amp;quot; were only some of the reactions.) Many lulz were enjoyed by /tg/ of its... ahem, questionable design aesthetics. This however says nothing of the fact that crunch-wise it is arguably the cheesiest flyer in all of 6th ed - praise the dark gods, indeed? Well, not really because there was a lot of dead weight and questionable mechanic design in that book. Speaking to the former, [[Mutilators]] and [[Warp Talons]] were just laughably useless. On top of that, random tables plagued the book (though nowhere near as much as the Chaos Daemons), troops were of questionable value and utility and the army played like Space Marines, but with too many goddamn cuts to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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When it comes to the traitor marines themselves, /tg/&#039;s opinions were divided. Some praised the new design for its focus on intricate trims and warp-induced mutations (eyes, tentacles), whereas others disliked it for its lack of [[Grimdark]], claiming it looked too cartoonish and too playful. Crunchwise, as if we haven&#039;t said it enough, this book was well and truly fucked. We really tried to like it, but any list that requires supplements and/or Forgeworld models/books to fill strategic gaps in the codex is a pretty bad list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===7th Ed: What the Fuck is this even===&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos Space Marines played similar to their loyalist counterparts, having access to most of the same wargear and vehicles, plus some unique stuff at the expense of all the stuff that makes loyalists remotely useful in a (completely vain) attempt to play up the [[RIP AND TEAR]] side in an edition favouring shooting. They have some of the same strengths and amplified weaknesses, expensive-to-overpriced units, are easily often outnumbered, but overall, they tend to play too aggressively to the point of carelessness. Thanks to all this nerf-slapping, their ranking amongst armies has tanked from the notably OP 3.5 days; the codex and army have since fallen into decline due to progressively weaker books in favour of the worst kind of fan-service for a handful of factions. CSM did get a release in the form of Khorne Daemonkin, but it just blended two books together with some new rules and wargear instead of fixing glaring problems with the units in them; they &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; weak due to their garbled 6E codex. Fortunately, 7E has been putting the screws to every single Codex released in 5th Ed while GW releases an unrelenting tide of half-assed pseudo-codices that don&#039;t even cover an FOC while adding bullshit mechanics like grav-spam, decurions or buffing the Eldar sky-high.&lt;br /&gt;
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That lasted until the release of the Traitor Legions supplement. With the release of the supplement, CSM got legion specific buffs and abilites, for Fluffy builds. For example, Alpha Legion armies can&#039;t have any marks, but they get to pass on their warlord trait to a friendly character if the current warlord dies. Night Lords get Raptors as core, Iron Warriors get [[Derp|Mutilators]] and [[Awesome|Obliterators]], Word Bearers get Possessed, and so on. Ironically, it&#039;s now better to take Khorne CSM over berserkers, because they&#039;re basically the same unit, but one is cheaper. Overall, Death Guard and Emperor&#039;s Children seem to be the best options at the moment, followed by the Alpha Legion. Basic Emperor&#039;s Children marines with Icon of excess are 190 pts for a 10 man squad of initiative 5 marines, with 4+ FNP, Fearless, and a roll on the combat drug table, which can give them +1 WS, BS, S, T, A, I. Death Guard Marines, meanwhile, are incredible also (Likely even better than the EC ones), 170 pts for a 10 man squad of toughness 5 marines with 5+ FNP and fearless but with a -1 to initiative. Iron Warriors, while initially derided, can bring three pairs of Tank Hunter Obliterators and three Twinlinked Vindicators at 1850 points, with a team or two of fortification-camping, Fearless, Tank Hunter, ObSec Autocannon Havocs. &lt;br /&gt;
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For the second half of 7th ed, it was safe to say that CSM were solid again. Could every Legion deal with Scatbike spam, Crisis/Markerlight shenanigans, or free DTs easily? Not exactly. But World Eaters could get to melee faster than anyone else. Black Legion could pull crazy alpha strikes and use 13-point marines with Rage, Counter-Attack, +1 strength if the charge roll is 8+, Ld9 (10 on the champ), Crusader, Fear, and Hatred (with permanent re-rolls to hit against Imperium). So we might not be quite as good as [[Cheese|Craftworld Eldar]], grav-spamming [[Smashfucker]] Loyalists or Guard and their absurd amounts of ordnance but CSM could fuck up the mid-tier Tau, Mechanicum and Necrons with ease again (the less said about the benighted Nids, Deldar and Orks the better; don&#039;t ask about the Sisters). We&#039;re calling that a result! It seems someone understood the risk-reward paradigm of the CSM (the risk in putting your eggs in a basket that would either collapse or rip and tear your opponent).&lt;br /&gt;
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... and then 7th ed. ended. A minor loss but thank god that&#039;s over!&lt;br /&gt;
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===8th Ed: Time to hope once again?===&lt;br /&gt;
The Traitor Legions book was a decent step forward in the era of 7th edition and 8th edition was certainly full of changes. Traitor lists largely remained although they were nowhere near as wild as the last edition. Thankfully, a lot of the garbage from 6th and 7th has been thrown out with them. No more &amp;quot;randomness because Chaos, guys!&amp;quot; as pretty much &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the random tables from all over 7th are scrapped as are the Decurions. This is a big step forward although a curious step into the mists of time, harkening back to 2nd. &lt;br /&gt;
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For a moment, CSM could still ally seamlessly with Daemons and Renegades until GW patched out soup lists. There were some issues with the index but Vigilius Ablaze brought us new units and models, which then found their way into the Codex. Said book not only patched the problems with the index, but added Legion Traits that help the Traitor Legions excel in their fluff-based specialties. The Thousand Sons and Death Guard also received their own Codexes with their own special flavor of nastiness. &lt;br /&gt;
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===9th Ed: The Galaxy Ablaze Once Again===&lt;br /&gt;
Things are getting HOT! There&#039;s a new codex around the corner with updates to Death Guard and Thousand Sons. Also, CSM have been given 2 wounds base just like their loyalist counterparts and their armoury has been revised to include the updates to similar weapons used by traitors that used by loyalists. So far, Codex Death Guard is really strong in 9th edition so this bodes well.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warriors of Chaos]]: The much &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;more competent&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;useful&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; less punching bag counterparts to the Chaos Marines in Warhammer Fantasy, at least until the Age of Sigmar took hold.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaos Space Marine Warband Creation Tables]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaos Warband Creation Tables]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Chaos Space Marines (9E)|Tactics on how to play them.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[What it&#039;s like]]: A short story meant to place emphasis the uncertainty of the life of a chaos space marine.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:1227181112539.jpg|The Typical Chaos Space Marine &lt;br /&gt;
File:1174923365695wq1vj1.png|The dreaded [[Night Lords]] preparing an ambush&lt;br /&gt;
File:Emperor s Children by megalaros.jpg|Slaaneshi noise marine. Because words can kill.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lcw.jpg|[[Imperium|They]] think that corpse on a throne is a god!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Firstkeeper.jpg|Change we can believe in!&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say: &amp;quot;A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with [[Black Legion|sword]], and with [[World Eaters|hunger]], and with [[Death Guard|death]], and with [[Chaos Spawn|the beasts of the earth.]]|Revelation 6:8}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{The treachery of demons is nothing compared to the betrayal of an angel.|Brenna Yovanoff}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Crimson Slaughter Chaos Marine ukitakumuki.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Chaos up in this motherfucker.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Chaos Space Marines&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Heretic Astartes&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Astartes Traitoris&#039;&#039;&#039;) are, simply enough, [[Space Marines]] that have fallen to, or were inducted to, [[Chaos]]. They are also one of the main factions in [[Warhammer 40,000]]. The first Chaos Marines were born during the [[Horus Heresy]] from the nine [[Traitor Legion]]s. Since then, many Space Marines (and even a few full [[Space Marine Chapter|Chapters]]) have gone rogue, becoming Renegades. However, this is mostly a [[fluff]] distinction, as the [[Codex]] (or the models for that matter) does not differentiate between the two. &lt;br /&gt;
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CSM supplement their lack of more easily available loyalist resources (recruits, tech, supplies, etc.) by way of daemons and Warp energy from the dark Gods, plundered weapons from whoever is unlucky enough to lose an engagement to them, and renegades from the Imperium, which are always available because the Imperium [[Grimdark|treats its subjects like steampunk condoms]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Black crusade by yogh art-d5bqzea.jpg|thumb|450px|left|Birds have not been so scary for 65 million years.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos Space Marines are basically Imperial Space Marines who have forsaken their oath to the Imperium of Man to serve the Ruinous Powers, which is [[Heresy]]. Marines do this for a number of reasons, although the cause of this is usually finding that the ways of Chaos suit them more than the Imperium, or the classic case of the Imperium dicking them over (largely the case for post-heresy chapters).&lt;br /&gt;
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The origins of Chaos Space Marines go back to [[Erebus]] of the Word Bearers, the first Chaos Marine, who then corrupted the recently-emotionally-discouraged Primarch [[Lorgar]] to Chaos. Erebus would then set into motion the events that would lead to Warmaster Horus being wounded on Davin&#039;s moon, where he would fall to the corruptions of Chaos. Horus, supreme Warmaster of the Imperium, would then gather [[Mortarion|&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;]] [[Omegon|8]] [[Konrad Curze|more]] [[Alpharius|of]] [[Angron|his]] [[Magnus the Red|distraught]] [[Perturabo|brother]] [[Fulgrim|Primarchs]] to his cause, along with a good fraction of Imperial forces and the Adeptus Mechanicus in full-scale rebellion, resulting in the Horus Heresy. When Horus got roflstomped by the Emprah during their duel, most of the Traitors fled to the Eye of Terror because of the loss of leadership, resulting in what would be known as &amp;quot;Chaos Space Marines&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Naturally, they fight just like Space Marines except &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;on average they are stronger, more experienced, and older, given that the majority stood with their Primarchs during the Great Crusade&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; only worse because Mary Sues need punching bags. They keep using shit they were equipped with prior to the Horus Heresy such as [[bolter]]s and the ever useful Space Marine [[plot armor|plot]] [[pauldrons|armor]], which would explain why they didn&#039;t fistfuck each other to death before reaching the Eye of Terror, or why they would follow the lead of a particular [[Saturday]] [[Abaddon|morning cartoon villain]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos Marines are also commonly known to compensate their aging weapons (which didn&#039;t really age much, considering how fucktarded Imperium tech support is) by using demon magic for that extra edge in combat. Naturally they lack some of the weapons and [[Standard Template Construct|equipment Imperium &amp;quot;invented&amp;quot; (or rather dug up) for the last 10 000 years]], such as [[Razorback Transport|Razorbacks]], [[Centurion Squad|Centurion suits]], [[Autogun|assault cannons]] or [[Grav-Weaponry|grav guns]], and although they often get their hands on such pieces of tech (mostly by killing corpse-worshipers who own them), their Dark Mechanicum allies have few to zero spare parts and/or ammo for them, those trophies rarely last in use for a long time. The latter reason is also why Chaos Marines no longer use some of them more delicate and advanced tech like Land Speeder variants or Whirlwinds, which they definitely HAD before the Heresy - those things require just too much maintenance to fit into their more independent and chaotic combat doctrines.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1286933675792.jpg|400px|right|thumb|The eternal war rages on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For all their powers from Chaos, however, most of them are nowhere nearly as organized as their loyalist counterparts. Turning to Chaos tends to drive Marines insane, usually causing them to lose much of the tactical prowess they had as loyalists. That said, organized legions like the Word Bearers, Thousand Sons, Iron Warriors, Death Guard (once they got their shit together), and Black Legion still remain much more of a competent military force than most of the other traitor legions. This is emphasized in the Black Legion novels, where the narrator has to explain to the freaking Inquisition, of all people, that the Chaos Legions don&#039;t have any dedicated supply lines, logistics, infrastructure, shipyards, independent manufacturing, or even the ability to feed their own forces. And they&#039;re still a great threat despite all this..&lt;br /&gt;
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...though many of those problems were eventually solved as the Traitor Legions regained their Heresy-era numbers (or even more in some cases), and various industries were built or captured from the Imperium; the Idolator ship and two Planet Killers were made 100% from Chaos factories.&lt;br /&gt;
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After all, the tree of heresy can grow from the smallest seed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Different warbands of Chaos Space Marines are every bit as prone to fighting each other as they are anything else for any number of reasons; evil doesn&#039;t get along with evil, they&#039;re all nuts and just want to fight something, or the other warband worships a different Chaos god. Yeah, these guys are nuts. Infighting inside individual warbands is not unheard off, and their leaders always have to watch their back because every single Marine has hopes of killing their superiors and taking over. So yeah, if they didn&#039;t have the [[Eye of Terror]] to hide in and the Imperium wasn&#039;t so idiot-ball prone, it probably would have killed them by now. However, when they DO get their shit together, they fuck up the Imperium on a scale undreamed of by [[War of the Beast|almost]] every other race in Warhammer. See the Dominion of Fire or the Cholercaust Blood Crusade. &#039;&#039;&#039;GODDAMN IT, KHORNATE BERZERKERS ARE AWESOME.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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They &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; the oldest fogies (or at least the ones from traitor legions are anyway) in the setting, barring the [[Eldar|space elves]], [[Bjorn the Fell Handed|that one angry viking dreadnought]] (who&#039;s about their age), the  [[Necrons|Tomb King expys]] and maybe a few of the [[Tyranid|Omnivorous Space Bug Lizards things]] but now they&#039;ve been retconned. CSM today may be some of the veterans from the Heresy or they could just be newfags that decided they were too cool for the Imperium. Fucking hell this is depressing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many Chaos Marines eventually dedicate themselves to one of the four [[Chaos Gods]], becoming little more than an extension of the god&#039;s will. This path has great risk and great reward, as the Chaos Gods are quite capricious; between two equally-dedicated champions, one will become a [[Chaos Spawn|horrific beast that should not be named]], whereas the other will achieve apotheosis and become a [[Daemon Prince]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Khorne|Khornate Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Those who worship Khorne (such as the [[World Eaters]] Traitor Legion) become close quarters badasses full of [[rage|RAAAAAAAAAGGGEEEE]]!. Khornate champions are among the best dedicated melee fighters in the setting. They are insane, ruthless, and barbaric, and continually lust after BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD and SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! Marines dedicated to Khorne are usually called [[Khorne Berzerkers]], after the Berzerkers of the World Eaters Legion, of whom [[Kharn]] (swell guy by the way) is the most famous. They are famed for their use of the [[chainaxe]] and their fucktastically fearless charges. They also get the best speeches. Although do note that Khornate followers are not all pure-CQC fighters, any weapon that spills blood in honorable combat like heavy weapons or vehicles is welcomed by Khorne. &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE! MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!! BUTTER FOR THE POP KHORNE!!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Nurgle|Nurglic Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; These guys are rotting, diseased, decaying sacks of flesh who can take hits that would kill a squad of Terminators. They&#039;re something of a meat shield as far as Chaos is concerned  (although not as much as [[Cornholio the Cultist|Chaos Cultists]]). They&#039;ve contracted every disease in creation and then some. Despite looking like a bag of things best not described, Nurgle&#039;s followers won&#039;t hesitate to give you a big, long, family hug. D&#039;awww. The [[Death Guard]] fell to Nurgle, but it wasn&#039;t really their fault.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Slaanesh|Slaaneshi Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; The followers of Slaanesh simply want to experience pleasure to the highest degree, most of which usually involves the euphoria gained from killing another person. Thus, Slaaneshi followers typically hype themselves up on drugs in order to intensify the sensations they experience, whether from sex or from slaughter. Slaaneshi Marines have taken so many drugs their bodies &#039;&#039;start to produce them normally.&#039;&#039; And yes, this is really canon. They also get penis fingers to give them the extra edge in combat (somehow) and hyperactive awareness, meaning that Slaaneshi followers typically move so fast that they&#039;re at par with Eldar reflexes. [[Doomrider]] is one of the most famous Slaaneshi champions (at least on /tg/), although he isn&#039;t from the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]], the Chaos Legion that fell to Slaanesh; [[Lucius the Eternal]], on the other hand, is.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Tzeentch|Tzeentchian Champions]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; All followers of Tzeentch are tricky and conniving, and many of them are also powerful [[psyker]]s (as Tzeentch is the god of magic). Warriors under Tzeentch tend to rape anything in ranged combat with either enhanced weapons or SPACE MAGIC that would turn heroes into [[Chaos Spawn]], squa-&#039;&#039;&#039;GRAABBRLBLLRBLRLRBLR&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**Ahem. To continue where the previous writer left off... squads of infantry into ash, and vehicles into puddles of molten goo. The [[Thousand Sons]] Legion is dedicated to Tzeentch; their (former) chief diviner, [[Ahriman]], is one of the better-known Tzeentchian sorcerers.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Chaos Undivided|Undivided]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Back in the good ol&#039; days, Chaos Undivided was the concept of worshiping Chaos as a combined entity or pantheon. The [[Word Bearers]] were probably the most well-known worshippers of Chaos Undivided. Since then, it has been largely retconned; instead, Chaos Undivided refers to Chaos Marines with the support of all four Chaos gods... because apparently that&#039;s different somehow (the former is monotheistic worship of Chaos as though Chaos itself was a god, the latter is the worship of aspects of Chaos as separate deities). This has left the Word Bearers in something of a weird spot, as their core concept has been badly mangled. Although, this is not completely out of place: Undivided followers &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; have the support of all four Chaos Gods due to their doctrine, but because they don&#039;t swear complete servitude to one like what the [[Death Guard]] and [[World Eaters]] did, they don&#039;t receive the full power of each Chaos God either.  This isn&#039;t a bad thing, though, as even at a glance it&#039;s easy to see how the gods of Chaos compliment each other when undivided.  And undivided worshipers are usually not insane.  Plus, the more you do to prove yourself to each god, the more benefits you get from each.  It&#039;s a longer game than swearing yourself to just one, but the end benefits are larger as well.  If you can survive long enough to reap your rewards.  Most importantly, perhaps, is that the critical flaws of each of the four is balanced out by the others, so while you&#039;ll be a jack of all trades you aren&#039;t going to be a one-trick pony most of your enemies know how to counter.  And you&#039;ll still have Chaos empowerment and the sanity to use it intelligently.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that many bands of Undivided Marines exploit Chaos for their own gain and feel little devotion to the Ruinous Powers, seeing it as no more than a tool for their goals. The [[Alpha Legion]], for instance, are closet loyalists (or double heretics, or triple heretics, or brothas doin&#039; it for themselves, nobody knows), whereas the [[Night Lords]] Legion only cares about spreading terror, which Chaos is undoubtedly useful for, but they look down upon the religious. Similarly, the [[Soul Drinkers]], a Renegade Chapter with an entire book series, are enemies of both Chaos and the [[Imperium of Man]] (though they fight for the [[Emperor]]&#039;s ideals; it&#039;s complicated, but likely has roots in the current Imperium being the antithesis or something akin to the [[Imperial Truth]]), although most in the Imperium would consider them &amp;quot;Chaos Marines.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Malal|Malice]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Way back when, [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] had a [[Chaos Gods#The_Other_Ones|minor Chaos God]] named Malal. Malal was a paradox, in that he is the embodiment of Chaos&#039; chaotic behavior. His main goal was the spread of chaos (not the Warp energies, but actual chaos like anarchy and disruption) by screwing up the plans of the other Ruinous Powers, so he had dedicated Champions that hunted down other Chaos Champions and generally dicked over the Chaos Gods. However, [[Games Workshop]] had to remove him from the setting due to a trademark dispute with the author that invented him. In 40k, meanwhile, there&#039;s a warband called the [[Sons of Malice]] that hunt down other Chaos Marines and seem to worship a minor Chaos power named &amp;quot;Malice.&amp;quot; This has led /tg/ to believe that Malal/Malice exists in 40k and can be invoked upon for power, although this is of dubious canonicity at best.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Traitor Legions==&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Horus Heresy]] struck, nine of the original twenty Legions turned against the [[Emprah]]. These guys are basically the original and the best. All of these survived the Siege of Terra and escaped into the [[Eye of Terror]] with a very large number of bodies (Space Marine legions frequently numbered up to 100,000 members by the time of the Heresy). Over time, they have become widely scattered, generally working in mixed warbands combining a variety of Traitor Legionnaires, Renegade Marines, and lesser humans (frequently rebellious Imperial Guard). However, it should be noted that quite a few Chaos Marines still fight as a Legion (generally drastically reduced in size) led by their original (now-Daemon) Primarch (if they&#039;re still alive, anyway). It&#039;s very rare to see more than a Grand Company (roughly equal in size to a Chapter of loyalist Marines) in any given battle unless it&#039;s an organized invasion (of which the most notable examples are the Black Crusades led by a [[Abaddon|certain armless failure]]), the Legion&#039;s Primarch himself calls them to fuck some shit up, or you&#039;re dealing with the Word Bearers or Iron Warriors, who are generally more organized than anybody else. The following are the nine Traitor Legions: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Emperor&#039;s Children]]: Also known as pretty marines, their Primarch is [[Fulgrim]], who is now &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;a painting&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; getting his serpentine dick sucked by a swarm of daemonettes on his pleasure planet. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;possibly still a painting&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; They don&#039;t operate as a Legion at all anymore, mostly because [[Kharn]] and the slave wars kinda fucked all their shit up. Anyway, they were basically OCD hyper-perfectionists that also really liked to party. They got ever-more hedonistic, attracted the attention of [[Slaanesh]], and the rest is history. Their Cult unit is the [[Noise Marines]], which are (as their name implies) Chaos Marines that like to kill people with noise. This used to mean sweet heavy-metal guitars, but GW retconned that, so now they have less-impressive (but still cool) &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;bass cannons&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; sonic cannons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Iron Warriors]]: The evil twins of the [[Imperial Fists]], they really like to build shit and then tear (somebody else&#039;s) shit down. In other words, they are masters of siege warfare (basically, rooting out cover-camping bitches). Their Primarch is [[Perturabo]]. They&#039;re generally the second most coherent of the Traitor Legions, retaining most of their pre-Heresy organization and numbers, although their great companies are generally independent and only answer to Perturabo himself, who on his part doesn&#039;t give a fuck and let them fight each other just for lulz. Also, they probably created the [[Obliterator|Obliterator Virus]], seeing as how they seem to have special connections with the Obliterator Cult. Sadly, they can no longer take [[Basilisk|Basilisks]] and don&#039;t have any special rules or Cult units (seeing as how that was quite broken back in 3rd), but GW did throw them a bone in the new book with the [[Warpsmith]] (not to be confused with a [[Warsmith]], which is also Iron Warriors-related). One of their noted leaders is [[Honsou]], a Warsmith in the running for &amp;quot;evilest villain.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Night Lords]]: Their Primarch was [[Konrad Curze]] (also known as the Night Haunter). They&#039;re basically space-terrorists, which (unsurprisingly) means they created Raptors, the sociopathic, predatory answer to the loyalists&#039; Assault Marines. They prefer ambush tactics, which is quite difficult when you&#039;re walking around in Power Amour and wearing stupid bat-wing helmets. They also like screaming like maniacs to cause terror. They are one of the few legions (in fact, pretty much the only one) who refuse to employ Daemons or live in the Eye of Terror. (Well, at least the warbands that remained loyal to Kurze&#039;s vision. The biggest extant warband worships Chaos and is lead by a Daemon Prince.) They&#039;re one of the few Traitor Legion that has a dead Primarch, on account of Curze&#039;s desire to go down in a fucked up version of suicide by cop to vindicate his obsessive belief that monsters and criminals should be put down like rabid dogs.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[World Eaters]]: [[Angron]]- Dissolved after [[Kharn]] turned the legion against themselves, what a guy. Now acting as roaming warbands and mercenaries. They still unite every now and then when Angron wants to fuck something&#039;s shit up, such as [[Cadia]]. The &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;only&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; legion known to get shit done when called up to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Death Guard]]: [[Mortarion]] - Didn&#039;t show up much in the fluff until the release of the Death Guard codex, though plague marines and champions can be found in many other warbands and, next to world-eater berserkers, are the most common cult unit. Also before Thirteenth Black Crusade Typhus&#039;s Plague Fleet kicked major ass in systems all around the Eye of Terror, turning entire planetary populations into zombies. As of 8th edition, they are now their own separate army. Oh, and Mortarion has returned, and his model is [[skub|controversial in terms of appearance]]. They also possess a planet known as the &amp;quot;Plague Planet&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Thousand Sons]]: [[Magnus the Red]] - Another legion that doesn&#039;t show up much at all in fluff after the Horus Heresy and [[Rubric Marines|rubric marines]] don&#039;t show up much in other legions&#039; warbands and most warbands use their own sorcerers. Except for [[Ahriman]]; Ahriman goes out trolling the Harlequins and those few [[Inquisitor]]s. Ahriman also does this because Tzeentch likes dicking Magnus over in his passive-aggressive way. Fluff-wise, Thousand Sons walk through the Universe, searching for knowledge like ancient books and artifacts to research and nerd out in their libraries, and magicking the shit out of anyone stupid or bold enough to stand on their way. Being smart and cunning motherfuckers they fight only where it really needed and only on their own terms (read: very rarely). Have recently succeeded in fucking up the Fenris furries with Big-Red leading them. And are now their own army and range of models, including a giant daemon version of Magnus with wings. &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Black Legion]]: [[Horus]] (kind of) - Originally called the Luna Wolves and then the Sons of Horus, though Abaddon formally disbanded the Legion and used its assets and whatever ragtag allies he had as the foundation of the Black Legion. Unites every now and then when Abaddon wants to launch another Black Crusade. It&#039;s honestly a miracle they survived this long, seriously if you look at their battles and losses it really makes no sense how they managed to live long enough to become the Black Legion, let alone the wars after. Known for calling black crusades, massive chaos invasions that consist untold numbers of chaos space marines (provided there&#039;s an ass to pull them out of), daemons, and general renegades and heretics all working together to try and tear the Imperium a new asshole. They are the largest legion by far, stated to outnumber the Word Bearers ten to one, namely because Abaddon preys on the other Legions and lures their troops into his own. Unfortunately, they have no real central command structure outside of a Black Crusade, and even then Abaddon can&#039;t keep the Legion&#039;s shit together for very long before they start breaking off every which way in search of a fight, usually getting slaughtered not long afterward.   &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Word Bearers]]: [[Lorgar]] -  The Only Traitor Legion to have retained its Chaplains, who would later become the first [[Dark Apostle]]s, who can often lead a Word Bearers&#039; Warband in the place of a Chaos Lord or Champion. They&#039;re one of the more organized and complete legions as they have a central daemon world of their own named &amp;quot;Sicarus&amp;quot;. Sicarus is covered in dozens of temples and cathedrals devoted to Chaos. The Word Bearers are still united under the banner of their Primarch: Lorgar (even if the lazy bastard never does anything these days but sit around doing nothing). The most coherent after the Iron Warriors, seen as their great companies (or Hosts, as they call them) are still working together under the watchful eye of the Dark Council.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Alpha Legion]]: [[Alpharius]]/[[Omegon]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;- No such legion or primarchs exists, further speculation on this issue is [[heresy]] and will result in execution. Said non-existent Legion has never trolled the Imperium for the last 10,000 years by faking the death of every member, any idea to the contrary is [[HERESY]]. Also, masters of &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;sneaking around undetected&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; fucking their enemies&#039; brains with multi-step Just As Planned schemes, that aren&#039;t overly complicated or lack the fallback plans (unlike Thousand Sons ones). In fact, their fallback-fallback plans usually have their own fallback plans just in case. Pretty much everything Imperium knows about them is a lie, suspected to be one, or a truth no one believes in since it looks like a lie.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Renegades ===&lt;br /&gt;
The legions of old are not the only source of Chaos Space Marines, with the fluff no longer being clear on whether they even are the largest source anymore. It&#039;s either the traitor legions or the Ultramarines who have produced the most Chaos Marines and renegade Chapters.  Loyalist marines get turned to Chaos like all the time (well, okay, it&#039;s actually pretty rare considering the limited numbers of Space Marines, but significant enough). Most often it&#039;s just a few individual marines or squads, sometimes going as far as entire companies, and rarely (but not rarely enough) entire chapters turn to Chaos. Sometimes it&#039;s the Imperium&#039;s own fault for turning initially loyal marines against the system due to a misunderstanding or an overzealous Inquisitor declaring them heretics and the new &#039;renegades&#039; then realize that since no matter what they do they&#039;ll be viewed as traitors by the Imperium, they may as well become traitors in reality. Sometimes, like with the [[Abyssal Crusade]], it&#039;s a case of [[just as planned]] succeeding so hard Tzeentch isn&#039;t even miffed that particular plot gets tied up. Other times, marines &amp;quot;caught&amp;quot; some Chaos taint due to fighting Chaos too much without proper Librarian control (bonus points if Librarians themselves get corrupted), committing terrible crimes in their fights against Ruinous Powers, or trying to fight Chaos with Chaos, like the [[Relictors]]. And finally, a Chapters&#039; own flaws in temperament may leave them all too easily manipulated into bringing their damnation upon themselves.  &lt;br /&gt;
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What is the most surprising, is that shit still happens despite loyalist marines being heavily brainwashed, even more than Death Korps of Krieg or Sisters of Battle (both of which are famous for having close to zero Chaos corruption rate). More so, marines even have a specific organ, to make them even more brainwashable. Some speculate the reason behind this is just Astartes longevity - after all SoBs and Kriegers didn&#039;t get continuously exposed to Ruinous Powers for hundreds of years. Others say that marines are just naturally susceptible to corruption, which makes sense if you believe the story daemons tell: that Primarchs were made with the help of The Four, and were given their power to make them something more than just genetically engineered humans. A theory from 30k states that the reason Marines are more easily turned to Chaos is that Marines naturally are fanatical in almost anything they do, and when feeling scolded by the very thing they are fanatical about it makes them do a full 180&amp;quot; to worship something else instead. This is what happened to the [[Word Bearers]], and most modern-day Marines are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;at least as religious as the Word Bearers were before the Horus Heresy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; either atheist or view the Emperor as a sort of Living Saint. Marines that worship anything are rare and looked upon as oddballs by the rest of the Adeptus Astartes.  Usually it&#039;s whole Chapters rather than individuals that do it.  Being Space Marines are highly valued by Chaos, they might simply be singled out for dedicated attempts to corrupt them whereas even Sisters of Battle are basically ignored and either get corrupted the same way as Guardsmen or not at all because Chaos doesn&#039;t care about them.  It does care about Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
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ADB once said that Abaddon embodies the old Biblical thing about Satan refusing to bow down to man, and this might be applied to most Chaos Space Marines. Space Marines are expected to give their whole lives - centuries (if not millennia) and sometimes even [[Dreadnought|beyond that]] - to war, so that ordinary humans, most of whom will never have to fight for their lives, can live in relative comfort. Unsurprisingly many Space Marines do resent this on some level, although regular indoctrination helps them cope with that particular feeling by redirecting it toward xenos/heretics in [[rip and tear|a more productive way]]. It has been suggested that Marines genuinely treating mortals with respect are probably in the minority, though, and then along comes a Word Bearer talking about these gods who will set them free, who&#039;ll make them the masters instead of the servants... Despite the nigh-constant indoctrination, these words don&#039;t always fall on deaf ears.  Which is still really weird since the Astartes voluntarily &#039;&#039;chose&#039;&#039; their life barring the rare Chapter that conscripts/kidnaps aspirants.  Sure, they might change their mind over time, but they didn&#039;t go through all those trials and hardships and training just to decide it wasn&#039;t worthwhile after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Renegades also have rather divergent attitudes to the Traitor Primarchs. Some venerate them as the Daemonic overlords that they are. Others wonder why everyone seems to fanboy themselves over beings who &amp;quot;lived&amp;quot; thousands of years ago and even then only for a few verifiable centuries before vanishing up their own arses to sit out the wars that the renegade has potentially been fighting for far longer than the Primarchs were ever alive for.&lt;br /&gt;
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No matter the true reason behind, this shit happens, and from one retcon to another after-Heresy chapter renegades become more and more prevalent to the point that they could actually outnumber the old Legions, even if the Black Legion isn&#039;t shy about inducting any who is willing to join and swear fealty to [[Abaddon]] amongst their ranks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; is also used to refer to non-Chaos aligned Astartes and other rogue but non-Chaos forces.  They aren&#039;t generally against the Imperium, either.  At worst just pirating as needed to survive and little else but it isn’t uncommon for them to (futilely) trying to find absolution or [[Soul Drinkers|just ignoring their own expulsion and continuing to serve as usual]]. Which is hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
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==A &amp;quot;Meta-History&amp;quot; of Sorts==&lt;br /&gt;
I suppose we should [[Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader|start at the beginning]]? So, back in the day, Chaos introduced in the tome Slaves To Darkness, which was effectively an expansion to Rogue Trader. That&#039;s right,&lt;br /&gt;
the original 40k didn&#039;t have Chaos, although it did have Warp Demons. In the original Rogue Trader narrative, the Emperor was encased in the Golden Throne because he was thousands of years old and he needed life force from psykers in order to survive. Once Slaves to Darkness and its sister book Lost and the Damned were introduced, it was revealed that there was this event called the Horus Heresy, and Horus was a primarch that rebelled and nearly killed the Emperor. Talk about a pretty hefty background update! &lt;br /&gt;
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Crunchwise, the CSM were just marines with some different wargear selection, as well as the ability to get Chaos mutations. It gets really confusing from there (Can you say, D1000 chart with 100+ mutations?) so the less said about the First Edition days, the better. The first, most important thing to remember is that Chaos was effectively a WHFB expy, so it included beastmen, daemons and renegades [[Awesome|all rolled into one]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===2nd Ed: First Age of Whoop-Ass===&lt;br /&gt;
Hoo-boy... I want you to picture it, if you can, a codex wherein Chaos Lords had no stats under 5, daemons could be freely taken in any FO slot (or the equivalent for 2nd Ed) and everything, &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; could push a loyalist&#039;s shit in. The CSM received a promotion in the fluff to primary antagonists after getting retconned into the reason as to why the Emperor ascended to the Golden Throne (via Horus traitorous ways and that mortal wound). Those were the days of 2nd edition; that&#039;s when Chaos was a unified front led by an interesting character on a 10,000 year quest for bloody vengeance. These were the days when a [[Bloodthirster]] would use an [[Avatar]] as a speedbump, and yet the only trump against CSM were the Eldar (And to a lesser extent the Tyranids when they evolved beyond Genestealer cults). Your characters could equip a Bloodletter&#039;s sword if you so chose to do so, as well as Chaos Terminator armour that could save on a 2d6 roll of 2+. Noise Marines, Thousand Sons, Khorne Berzerkers and Plague Marines all got their start here, and they started out as &#039;&#039;Troops&#039;&#039; (or rather, their second ed equivalent). You could also take [[Foulspawn]], a special character Nurgle [[Chaos Spawn|Thing]]/[[Daemon Prince]] with 19 wounds (!) that stole wounds from his kills and could regenerate lost wounds every turn. And guess what? You could field beasts, renegades and daemons in your army. It was also possible to give Chaos Marines equipment and vehicles that only their loyalist equivalents get nowadays (including [[Dude, Where&#039;s my Land Speeder?|assault cannons, storm bolters, cyclone missile launchers, and various support vehicles]]), in order to accurately represent the equipment used by Renegades from later Foundings. However, they had to pay an extra 50% traitor tax in order to take them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, it sounds fucking insane and the coolest thing ever, and it was. Arguably, things were a bit nascent because in spite of all the other extras, they were still very much just space marines with other armies rolled into it. They had the same stats and many of the same rules and wargear as their loyalist counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===3rd Ed: Roller Coaster into [[Awesome]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Third edition started by screwing everyone: the rules were fucked up to try and shift the balance of power towards infantry and away from characters (so sayeth GW, anyway). Regardless, this is one of a few times that GW actually dialed back the power creep inherent in their game systems to such a degree that all existing armies got hosed (worst of all, Eldar) and CSM were no exception. The Codex pumped out was a hackneyed shadow of its former self that needed constant reference checks to the main rules because all the rules for your stuff got printed there instead of your codex. This first release however brought about the much-loved [[Obliterators]], [[Possessed]] and [[Raptors]] and GW did make rules for entire cult armies available for download on their website at the time, which was a thing GW used to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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Halfway through its life-cycle, GW introduced [[Tau]] and [[Necrons]], breaking the game with [[Fish of Fury]] and just simply existing, respectively. [[List of 40K Cheese|In the midst of this renewed cheese surge, the CSM got a second lease on life]], cranking their competitiveness to second place behind the dreaded third ed &#039;crons. These were the days of the 200+ point CSM lord that could out-punch fucking ANYTHING! We&#039;re talking about a wargear sheet noticeably larger than any other faction, which also included the curious ability to make your aspiring champions psykers. You could load up a squad with stacks of veteran skills, sneaking them into position, moving through cover and then finishing with a furious charge. [[Defiler|That enemy crab thing]] gets its big introduction as a monstrous creature AND a walker! These were the days when you &#039;&#039;bought&#039;&#039; as opposed to rolled for the powers your Possessed had; where you could dedicate vehicles to the Gods, and that gave you certain options (thus creating the Sonic Dreadnought... and Predator). You could take a Slaaneshi psyker and give him and his unit immunity from shooting attacks with a well rolled minor psychic power. Best of all, these were the days of fielding Traitor Legions -  ridiculously unbalanced lists that would either fall flat on their faces and cost way too much (Thousand Sons) or tear the fucking table in half (Iron Warriors).&lt;br /&gt;
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Games Workshop tried valiantly to dial back the cheese by releasing Imperial Assassins, Daemonhunters and Witchhunters but once the Eye of Terror campaign hit and the official (and also cheesy) Lost and the Damned rules were out, third ed was firmly [[Cultist-chan|captoored by chaoz.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===4th Ed: The Sudden Betrayal===&lt;br /&gt;
That rat-bastard, pointy-eared fuck! In 4th ed, [[Gav Thorpe]] raped Chaos and left her to die in a fucking gutter. Those broken-as-hell traitor legions lists? Instead of fixing them for players that liked the other legions, they were removed. Veteran skills? Gone. Wargear? Toast. Lost and the Damned? More like &amp;quot;lost-a la vista,&amp;quot; amirite. Daemons? Worst of all, Thorpe figured they needed their own, super-shitty codex. CSM players were &#039;&#039;pissed&#039;&#039; at the &amp;quot;streamlining&amp;quot; their armies got, but they endured it because at the time there were a few nifty silver linings. You could still technically have your cult army/legion/whatever and they were all not bad; that is to say the codex was at least internally balanced. During this time, the Eldar got pumped from worse than last place to playable, Tyranids got an update that was fair as well, Fish of Fury got pulled from the Tau Codex and the loyalists got a decent buff in the 4th ed SM codices. Nothing spectacular, but everything felt fair; it felt like we could have fun with each other and save our bitter sniping for the rightly-deserving Necron players and their totes OP 3E rules. For a brief period of time, the rules system was stable and there was hope that this trend might continue...&lt;br /&gt;
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===5th Ed: Abandon (the Despoiler) Ship!===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Matt Ward|And then this happened.]] GW, in a moment of clarity and business acumen, summoned Matt Ward from the pit to turn the 40K metagame on its larynx through its asshole to promote sales of their most popular line, Space Marines. [[Dawn of War]] had just come out and Relic/THQ made the Space Marines really good (and Imperial Guard, and Eldar, [[Dawn of Eldar|especially the Eldar]] but they would have to wait until 6E to get their cheese on). CSM didn&#039;t get a release in this edition because GW decided instead to dedicate their time to fanboy service while throwing a bone to the Dark Eldar and Orks. This was when the 4th ed. rules were used to create the well-known CSM mono-build for 5th ed (Lash Prince, Plague Marines, Termicide, Obliterators and &#039;&#039;maybe&#039;&#039; a Chosen squad for guiding deep strikes). However, once the 5th ed Grey Knights landed, Chaos was truly on its ass. These were the days all the jokes made against Chaos finally made it to the internets and the forces of Chaos shifted from that terrifying adversary feared across the galaxy to the Imperium&#039;s punching bag &#039;&#039;du jour&#039;&#039;. Many were the veteran players who simply left in disgust.&lt;br /&gt;
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===6th Ed: A New NOPE!===&lt;br /&gt;
Rumours started pouring in furiously when 6th ed was nearing release. Close combat will have AP values? Oooo! What&#039;s this - CSM will be the first codex out the gate? Hot damn! New models? BITCHIN&#039;! Revamped rules to finally reclaim some of the fucking glory we lost in the last two goddamn editions? Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;
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So, 2013 has come and gone along with that release and I think we can all say how disappointing that truly was. Of the few bright spots was [[Helldrake|a new flyer with a *AHEM* &#039;&#039;gigantic exhaust port&#039;&#039;]]. (&amp;quot;Gaze into the Eye of Terror!&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Glory to the Goatse of Chaos!&amp;quot; were only some of the reactions.) Many lulz were enjoyed by /tg/ of its... ahem, questionable design aesthetics. This however says nothing of the fact that crunch-wise it is arguably the cheesiest flyer in all of 6th ed - praise the dark gods, indeed? Well, not really because there was a lot of dead weight and questionable mechanic design in that book. Speaking to the former, [[Mutilators]] and [[Warp Talons]] were just laughably useless. On top of that, random tables plagued the book (though nowhere near as much as the Chaos Daemons), troops were of questionable value and utility and the army played like Space Marines, but with too many goddamn cuts to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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When it comes to the traitor marines themselves, /tg/&#039;s opinions were divided. Some praised the new design for its focus on intricate trims and warp-induced mutations (eyes, tentacles), whereas others disliked it for its lack of [[Grimdark]], claiming it looked too cartoonish and too playful. Crunchwise, as if we haven&#039;t said it enough, this book was well and truly fucked. We really tried to like it, but any list that requires supplements and/or Forgeworld models/books to fill strategic gaps in the codex is a pretty bad list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===7th Ed: What the Fuck is this even===&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos Space Marines played similar to their loyalist counterparts, having access to most of the same wargear and vehicles, plus some unique stuff at the expense of all the stuff that makes loyalists remotely useful in a (completely vain) attempt to play up the [[RIP AND TEAR]] side in an edition favouring shooting. They have some of the same strengths and amplified weaknesses, expensive-to-overpriced units, are easily often outnumbered, but overall, they tend to play too aggressively to the point of carelessness. Thanks to all this nerf-slapping, their ranking amongst armies has tanked from the notably OP 3.5 days; the codex and army have since fallen into decline due to progressively weaker books in favour of the worst kind of fan-service for a handful of factions. CSM did get a release in the form of Khorne Daemonkin, but it just blended two books together with some new rules and wargear instead of fixing glaring problems with the units in them; they &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; weak due to their garbled 6E codex. Fortunately, 7E has been putting the screws to every single Codex released in 5th Ed while GW releases an unrelenting tide of half-assed pseudo-codices that don&#039;t even cover an FOC while adding bullshit mechanics like grav-spam, decurions or buffing the Eldar sky-high.&lt;br /&gt;
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That lasted until the release of the Traitor Legions supplement. With the release of the supplement, CSM got legion specific buffs and abilites, for Fluffy builds. For example, Alpha Legion armies can&#039;t have any marks, but they get to pass on their warlord trait to a friendly character if the current warlord dies. Night Lords get Raptors as core, Iron Warriors get [[Derp|Mutilators]] and [[Awesome|Obliterators]], Word Bearers get Possessed, and so on. Ironically, it&#039;s now better to take Khorne CSM over berserkers, because they&#039;re basically the same unit, but one is cheaper. Overall, Death Guard and Emperor&#039;s Children seem to be the best options at the moment, followed by the Alpha Legion. Basic Emperor&#039;s Children marines with Icon of excess are 190 pts for a 10 man squad of initiative 5 marines, with 4+ FNP, Fearless, and a roll on the combat drug table, which can give them +1 WS, BS, S, T, A, I. Death Guard Marines, meanwhile, are incredible also (Likely even better than the EC ones), 170 pts for a 10 man squad of toughness 5 marines with 5+ FNP and fearless but with a -1 to initiative. Iron Warriors, while initially derided, can bring three pairs of Tank Hunter Obliterators and three Twinlinked Vindicators at 1850 points, with a team or two of fortification-camping, Fearless, Tank Hunter, ObSec Autocannon Havocs. &lt;br /&gt;
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For the second half of 7th ed, it was safe to say that CSM were solid again. Could every Legion deal with Scatbike spam, Crisis/Markerlight shenanigans, or free DTs easily? Not exactly. But World Eaters could get to melee faster than anyone else. Black Legion could pull crazy alpha strikes and use 13-point marines with Rage, Counter-Attack, +1 strength if the charge roll is 8+, Ld9 (10 on the champ), Crusader, Fear, and Hatred (with permanent re-rolls to hit against Imperium). So we might not be quite as good as [[Cheese|Craftworld Eldar]], grav-spamming [[Smashfucker]] Loyalists or Guard and their absurd amounts of ordnance but CSM could fuck up the mid-tier Tau, Mechanicum and Necrons with ease again (the less said about the benighted Nids, Deldar and Orks the better; don&#039;t ask about the Sisters). We&#039;re calling that a result! It seems someone understood the risk-reward paradigm of the CSM (the risk in putting your eggs in a basket that would either collapse or rip and tear your opponent).&lt;br /&gt;
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... and then 7th ed. ended. A minor loss but thank god that&#039;s over!&lt;br /&gt;
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===8th Ed: Time to hope once again?===&lt;br /&gt;
The Traitor Legions book was a decent step forward in the era of 7th edition and 8th edition was certainly full of changes. Traitor lists largely remained although they were nowhere near as wild as the last edition. Thankfully, a lot of the garbage from 6th and 7th has been thrown out with them. No more &amp;quot;randomness because Chaos, guys!&amp;quot; as pretty much &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the random tables from all over 7th are scrapped as are the Decurions. This is a big step forward although a curious step into the mists of time, harkening back to 2nd. &lt;br /&gt;
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For a moment, CSM could still ally seamlessly with Daemons and Renegades until GW patched out soup lists. There were some issues with the index but Vigilius Ablaze brought us new units and models, which then found their way into the Codex. Said book not only patched the problems with the index, but added Legion Traits that help the Traitor Legions excel in their fluff-based specialties. The Thousand Sons and Death Guard also received their own Codexes with their own special flavor of nastiness. &lt;br /&gt;
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===9th Ed: The Galaxy Ablaze Once Again===&lt;br /&gt;
Things are getting HOT! There&#039;s a new codex around the corner with updates to Death Guard and Thousand Sons. Also, CSM have been given 2 wounds base just like their loyalist counterparts and their armoury has been revised to include the updates to similar weapons used by traitors that used by loyalists. So far, Codex Death Guard is really strong in 9th edition so this bodes well.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warriors of Chaos]]: The much &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;more competent&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;useful&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; less punching bag counterparts to the Chaos Marines in Warhammer Fantasy, at least until the Age of Sigmar took hold.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaos Space Marine Warband Creation Tables]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaos Warband Creation Tables]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Chaos Space Marines (9E)|Tactics on how to play them.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[What it&#039;s like]]: A short story meant to place emphasis the uncertainty of the life of a chaos space marine.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:1227181112539.jpg|The Typical Chaos Space Marine &lt;br /&gt;
File:1174923365695wq1vj1.png|The dreaded [[Night Lords]] preparing an ambush&lt;br /&gt;
File:Emperor s Children by megalaros.jpg|Slaaneshi noise marine. Because words can kill.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lcw.jpg|[[Imperium|They]] think that corpse on a throne is a god!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Firstkeeper.jpg|Change we can believe in!&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Chaos Space Marines}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Erebus&amp;diff=202044</id>
		<title>Erebus</title>
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		<updated>2021-06-28T03:08:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2001:67C:2660:425:92E2:BAFF:FE82:1A24: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Dark Chaplain Erebus.jpg|thumb|Right|250px|BREAKING NEWS: LOCAL MAN RUINS FUCKING EVERYTHING.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|And what’s he then that says I play the villain? When this advice is free I give and honest?|Iago in Othello, William Shakespeare}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep&#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.|Matthew 7:15}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don&#039;t have brains enough to be honest.|Benjamin Franklin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|&#039;&#039;&#039;FUCK EREBUS!&#039;&#039;&#039;|The fourth most popular phrase in 40K, right after Blood for the Blood God, Heresy, and WAAAAAAGHH!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;What a bastard. No, seriously, this guy is the Heretic of &#039;&#039;ALL&#039;&#039; HERETICS. If you don&#039;t hate him yet, just wait, you&#039;ll be screaming curses at his face by the time we&#039;re done...seldom has there been a more reprehensible dick-biscuit.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Erebus&#039;&#039;&#039; is the most evil son of a bitch to ever (dis)grace the galaxy (which is really saying something because the Warhammer universe is full of disgusting cunts like [[Honsou]] and [[Lucius]])  and was a [[Dark Apostle]] of the [[Word Bearers]] and one of [[Lorgar]]&#039;s trusted lieutenants. During a certain time, he became a devout servant of [[Chaos]] and co-conspired with [[Kor Phaeron]] in order to bring about the downfall of the Imperium. Though, to Erebus&#039; credit, whilst Kor Phaeron was able to corrupt his Primarch, it was he who was indirectly responsible for the [[Horus Heresy]]. For it was he who manipulated events so that the [[Interex]] were slaughtered instead of warning the Imperium against the dangers of Chaos, who stole the Anathame that led to the corruption of [[Horus]], and he, along with Horus, who masterminded the Drop Site Massacre of Isstvan V. He continued to serve Horus as his spiritual advisor until his defeat at the hands of the Emperor. And did we mention he&#039;s a total bastard? Think of a smug jackass, then make him a master manipulator, multiply that by 10, and you&#039;re STILL not close enough. How about indirectly killing &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;millions billions trillions quadrillions&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; uncountable numbers of people? The death toll isn&#039;t just being increased by forces of Chaos either - without the Heresy, the [[Noblebright]] Imperium would have kicked the shit out of all the xenos who were not active before 40,000, and by the way humanity is now in existential danger. Don&#039;t forget supercharging the power and influence of all the Chaos gods. We mentioned his responsibility in starting [[Horus Heresy|that fun time]], did we not? Seriously, this guy&#039;s bastardly douchebaggery &#039;&#039;CANNOT &#039;&#039;&#039;EVER&#039;&#039;&#039; BE OVERSTATED&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;IT IS NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO&#039;&#039;&#039;. Thankfully as the Heresy keeps on going this slimy, hateful dickblister is getting his SHIT PUSHED IN.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Background==&lt;br /&gt;
Even if you knew nothing about the Heresy, Chaos or the 40k setting generally and just got handed a copy of the first couple of books you&#039;d easily realize that Erebus is corrupting the living fuck out of everyone, via the venerable &#039;Rasputin Maneuver&#039;. The fact that he spends all his time just chilling out with no-one else from his Legion, just hanging around where the action happens and &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;constantly being complained about&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; everyone loving him in the first books except the main character (poor  [[Garviel Loken|Loken]]) and those two remembrancers (people should really listen to those guys more). This pretty much proves that no-one else in the setting has even the vaguest ability to connect obviously connected facts. He&#039;s a slippery, creepy motherfucker and if anyone had an ounce of sense they&#039;d have tossed him out of a fucking airlock the second they set eyes on him. &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite being the main instigator of it, the Horus Heresy was hardly fun times for Erebus. First of all he nearly gets sacrificed to the Dark Gods himself in order to make Horus see the &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot;, which pisses him off. Then, when he gets back to Davin, the priestess who almost killed him tells him that everything was [[just as planned]] and doesn&#039;t resist when he turns on her, ruining his petty revenge. Then he gets to Calth to summon a lot of daemons... only to have to teleport (or rather use a ritual to enter the Warp and exit it at another point) away before some orbital bombardment blows his sorry ass to kingdom come.&lt;br /&gt;
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After &#039;&#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;&#039; he rejoins his Primarch for a time, and finishing Lorgar&#039;s merry little crusade to turn Angron into a RAGE-filled Daemon Primach, he stabbed [[Argel Tal]], who was the best and coolest Word Bearer to ever exist, in the back. Because he was &#039;&#039;too humane&#039;&#039;. [[derp|okay...]] Lorgar wasn&#039;t happy with that, since Argel Tal had been the one closest to his vision for humanity (and also because he thought Erebus trusted his visions too much), so he told [[Khârn]] what happened. So the next time Erebus was chillin&#039; out amongst the World Eaters, fighting a couple of duels to first blood for the fun, Kharn stepped into the arena and challenged him. &#039;&#039;Sanguis Extremis&#039;&#039;, or battle to death, because Erebus &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;teamkilled [[Argel Tal]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; MURDERED HIS LAST FRIEND. Erebus, who&#039;d never seen any of this in his visions, was taken completely by surprise and had the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;crap beaten out of him&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; EVER LOVING SHIT BEATEN OUT OF HIM AS THE ENTIRE WORLD EATERS LEGION LET OUT A COLLECTIVE [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hw2WqvbDt5g&amp;quot;DAAAAAAAAAAAMN!&amp;quot;] He was completely, utterly taken apart by a furious Khârn, losing one hand and almost his life but he escaped death by teleporting away just before the deathblow landed because he&#039;s a cowardly fuck.&lt;br /&gt;
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After this misadventure, the slimy motherfucker decided he better put half the galaxy&#039;s distance between him and the World Eaters, so he went back to hang out with Horus. He tried to corrupt Sanguinius by setting up a trap for him where a couple of Greater Daemons (Ka&#039;Bandha and Kyriss the Perverse) teamed up to murderfuck the hell out of a whole planetary system and use the power from said sacrifice to exacerbate the [[Red Thirst]] and [[Black Rage]] in the Blood Angels (by the time of the Heresy, it only happened extremely infrequently, and Erebus only knew about it thanks to Horus witnessing Sanguinius having to put down one of his Legionnaires). The whole plan was to engineer things so the whole Legion succumbed and then offer Sanguinius to free them from the flaw forever... if only he&#039;d join Chaos&#039; side. This endeavor notably failed because [[Apothecary]] [[Meros]] sacrificed himself instead of Sanguinius to absorb the Black Rage, and also because Horus had given orders to Ka&#039;Bandha to actually kill the Angel. So when Erebus learned [[not as planned|his masterful plan had been ruined]], he got [[butthurt|pissy]] at Horus for throwing the whole plan into disarray. Horus took his &amp;quot;reasonable&amp;quot; complaints under careful consideration and, in an unparalleled act of restraint, only skinned the devious arsehole&#039;s face off (instead of ultra-killing him on the spot like everyone else present, [[lulz|even his fellow Word Bearers]], expected), &#039;cos he&#039;s Motherfucking Horus and he doesn&#039;t like being told what to do by slimy little scheming fuckers. &lt;br /&gt;
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Not that it really mattered, however, because beauty is only skin deep and Erebus doesn&#039;t give a fuck about how he looks (and he picked up the trick to use Warp energy to regenerate from his Primarch), so he just continued being an absolute ass. Following this, Erebus decided that he had learnt nothing over the last few years and decided to try to dick over a Primarch even more likely to ruin his shit - Vulkan. He achieved this by &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;teamkilling a bunch of loyal followers&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; executing &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; yet another treacherous and incompetent bitch of an Apostle who wanted to take his place ([[fail|because, yes, there&#039;s something of a &amp;quot;become Caliph in the place of the Caliph&amp;quot; contest going on amongst the Dark Apostles]]) and making sure that John Grammaticus got away with a Primarch killing weapon. Johnny took the fulgurite ([[wat|a mote of the Emperor&#039;s psychic lightning given physical form; nothing less!]]) to Macragge in order to use it on Vulkan, [[Just as planned|because doing exactly what Erebus wants you to do can only lead to good things]]... [[Not as planned|Or not, since Grammaticus ended up using it on himself]] thanks to the intervention of [[Eldrad|an even bigger dick]]. But it doesn&#039;t matter, since Erebus still has a bunch of other convoluted plans going on all at once! (You might wonder, but no, he doesn&#039;t serve [[Tzeentch]] exclusively.)&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point during the Horus Heresy, he made a (way too ambitious) attempt to assassinate The Emperor, by making use of a [[Blank]] merged with a demon. ([[What|Don&#039;t even ask.]]) Without Horus knowing, he sent the abomination to go and hunt for the Emperor&#039;s blood. The mission was of course doomed to [[fail]], when he intercepted a strike force of Imperial Assassins, sent to kill Horus. They ended up killing each other, much to Erebus&#039; frustration. Horus, in the end, found out and forbid the use of assassins as weapons to Erebus, considering them tools for cowards. [[Siege of Terra|We all know how well that ended up]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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He also collaborated with [[Typhus|Calas Typhon]] in corrupting [[Mortarion]], giving him evidence in order to frame the [[Death Guard]]&#039;s [[Navigator]]s as being agents of [[Malcador the Sigillite]], allowing Typhon to get away with massacring them so he could lead the legion into [[Nurgle]]&#039;s trap. He also attempted to assassinate Malcador by implanting a Manchurian Candidate style trigger into Tylos Rubio, but that failed. It seems this guy&#039;s plans only actually work when they involve corrupting a Primarch (Uh, not always *cough* Sanguinius *cough*). &lt;br /&gt;
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He now spends his time playing games of chess with Kor Phaeron, with entire companies and fleets of Word Bearers as the pieces. For giggles, naturally. Erebus currently holds a position in Lorgar&#039;s Dark Council. He showed up in the 13th [[Black Crusade]] to sacrifice a million innocents to the gods of Chaos, and then, having apparently fulfilled his contract and knowing they were going to [[fail]] once more, took his warriors and got the hell out of there. He has shown notable distaste for [[Abaddon]]&#039;s status as Warmaster of Chaos, believing that a new Warmaster is needed. Which goes to show that just because you&#039;ve spent ten thousand years chilling in the [[Eye of Terror]] doesn&#039;t mean that you forfeit common sense. Pity he can&#039;t do much about his own boss&#039;s capacity to lead. &#039;&#039;&#039;Which is diddly-damn fine by him, since he gets half a legion and no Primarch to cramp his style.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Rumours abound that Lorgar is back at the head of the Word Bearers these days, and exactly what he thinks about how good/bad Erebus and Kor Phaeron did while he was being butthurt about Horus kicking his arse remains to be seen. &lt;br /&gt;
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Because GW wants you to improve your culture, you should know that Erebus is the Latin name of the Greek god Erebos, meaning &amp;quot;darkness&amp;quot; in ancient Greek... seriously who the fuck would name a child this way? (Some Colchisian yokel who never even heard of Greek, That&#039;s who!) Erebos was one of the first beings to emerge out of Chaos, and it quite suits him since he &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; a [[Chaos Space Marines|Chaos Space Marine]], and the very first one to boot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, according to &amp;quot;Child of Chaos&amp;quot;, Erebus isn&#039;t even his real name. When he was a lad on Colchis there was a nice well respected religious boy who went under that name, so Erebus killed him and stole his identity to snag a position in the cushy and lucrative priest caste of the planet, proving that there was never a time Erebus wasn&#039;t a total asshole.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
Erebus now has rules for your Word Bearers Space Marine Legion list. He has Zealot, Adamantium Will, Master of the Legion and Harbinger of Chaos which allows all Word Bearers to use Dark Channeling, which has you roll a D6 for every squad this is given to at the beginning of the game. On a 1-3 unit gains Zealot special rule, 4-5 gains +1 strength for the duration of the battle, and on a 6 the unit gains the Daemon special rule for the duration of the battle, but no longer counts as scoring (if it did before) and counts as being destroyed at the end of the game for the purposes of calculating victory points. He is also a Level 1 Psyker who can draw from Biomancy or Telepathy and counts as a Master of the Legion, Diabolist, and Chaplain, freeing up your other HQ slots for whatever floats your boat.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Erebus0001.jpg|Don&#039;t you want to punch his smug face? No, wait, you should want to [[Exterminatus]] it &#039;&#039;&#039;MULTIPLE TIMES OVER&#039;&#039;&#039;. And &#039;&#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039;&#039; let loose a [[Death Company]] or two on it.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:WHA-ChaosSchoolbus.jpg|Leaked concept art of Erebus&#039; surprise appearance in [[Warhammer Adventures]].&lt;br /&gt;
File:Erebus Heresy Model.jpg|Hey kids, you wanna worship chaos?&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Slaanesh&amp;diff=433056</id>
		<title>Slaanesh</title>
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		<updated>2021-02-23T21:35:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2001:67C:2660:425:92E2:BAFF:FE82:1A24: /* Introduction: The Slaanesh Inquisition */&lt;/p&gt;
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{{sick|The hermaphrodite god/goddess of rape who wants to eat everyone&#039;s souls and rape them forever.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Slaanesh_by_baklaher-d7dvohn.jpg|thumb|500px|right|Slaanesh... tempting you to join a [[rape|party in which you will never forget...]] [[Rule 34|also now in even more NSFW!]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&#039;color:purple;font-size:100%&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;PORN FOR THE PORN GOD! SMUT FOR THE SMUT THRONE! RAPE FOR THE RAPE TRAIN!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; - The Motto that Slaanesh wants YOU to believe in&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Give yourself over to absolute pleasure. Swim the warm waters of sins of the flesh - erotic nightmares beyond any measure, and sensual daydreams to treasure forever. Can&#039;t you just see it? Don&#039;t dream it, be it.|Dr. Frank-N-Furter, Rocky Horror Picture Show}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|To be loved, feelings must be rationed. To love, the doors of hysteria, fantasy, and madness may be flung open.|Anton LaVey}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom.|Charles Baudelaire}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Everything is good when it is excessive.|Donatien-Alphonse-François, AKA Marquis de Sade}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Blood does more than turn me on, it makes me cum. And more than the sight of it, I love the taste of it. The taste of hot, freshly killed blood... Kill everyone now! Condone first degree murder! Advocate cannibalism! Eat shit! Filth are my politics! Filth is my life! Take whatever you like.|Divine, Pink Flamingoes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|OO! KINKY!|Anyone who ever set eyes on a daemon of slaanesh}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Introduction: The Slaanesh Inquisition==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Slaanesh by genzoman-d2y8ylf.jpg|thumb|500px|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2qT7GylRxw And to think... I hesitated.] Wait, one whip is held in the hand and the other is held in the...]]&lt;br /&gt;
Behold &#039;&#039;&#039;Slaanesh&#039;&#039;&#039;, also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Shaarnor (to [[Cult Of Slaanesh|Elves and some humans]]), Shornaal (to [[Warriors of Chaos|humans and some Elves]]), The Dark Prince, the Lord of Excess, Leviathan, Lord of the Labyrinth, Big Tiddy Goth Prince, Dr. Frank-N-Furter, The Sweet Transvestite, The Lusty Argonian Maid, the Colossal Pervert, Creator of Rule 34&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;the Ultimate Trap&#039;&#039;&#039;, [[Cornholio the Cultist|&#039;&#039;&#039;Tiddycaca&#039;&#039;&#039;]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Never Went to Rehab&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Slut4Evar&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;the one who ruins everything,&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;the new thing,  and multiple other names.  Slaanesh is the [[Chaos God]] of [[/d/|perversion, Hentai]], [[Extra Heresy|shamelessness]], [[Furry|excess]], [[Rebecca Black|the most disgusting Pop Music in the history of ever]], sex, drugs, and rock and roll.  Heretical Fa/tg/uys cannot resist the most disgusting [[heresy]] of masturbating furiously to Slaanesh and their [[daemonette]]s.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Slaanesh was &#039;born&#039; (in this case semi literally, from aspects other chaos gods had.) at the fall of the [[Eldar]], when all their torture, [[rape]], S&amp;amp;M, bondage, decadence, eventually tore the fabric of reality a new one and gave birth to Slaanesh along with the [[Eye of Terror]], killing the majority of their race. Thus, the final chaos god is known as the one that was literally murderfucked into existence. As a result, Slaanesh owns almost every last Eldar soul in the entire galaxy. In the event of an Eldar dying without a spirit stone, he or she becomes Slaanesh&#039;s sex toy for all of eternity day and night forever and ever (excluding Exodites, whose soul will automatically go to their planet&#039;s world spirit and Harlequins, who are scooped up by the [[Cegorach|great clown]] himself, and the faithful of Ynnead). This is why Eldar are willing to manipulate entire worlds into [[Exterminatus|exterminating]] each other just to save one of their own. The [[Dark Eldar]] take this up to eleven; because they do not use spirit stones nor are they protected like the Harlequins, Slaanesh is constantly sanding their souls down around the edges.  In order to circumvent this they resort to huffing the souls of those in agony or of those who have recently died. However this isn&#039;t done &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; for survival; the Dark Eldar revel in sadism for its own sake too. In the end every Eldar in the galaxy, even the Drukhari and the Harlequins, are inextricably linked to Slaanesh in some way.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, the descriptions above apply primarily to Slaanesh&#039;s WH40K history. In WHFB, Slaanesh has no real backstory and sort of just came out of nowhere like the other Chaos gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Among other things, Slaanesh is the god of sex, drugs, and rock n&#039; roll. Slaanesh is fueled by excess and pleasure, which means gratuitous amounts of anything generally fall under its influence. This actually becomes a big problem for Khorne, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]] and the other Chaos Gods, whose worshipers have to constantly try not to enjoy themselves too much lest they end up feeding the Warp&#039;s whipping bitch. Especially when the Inquisition is all too enthusiastic about whipping heretics.It is for this reason ironically enough that she is hated by every single entity in the warp, Yes even Nurgle. More on that below.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many horny juveniles who have just found Warhammer seem to be obsessed with Slaanesh being a God(ess) of sexual pleasure. While [[fluff]] claims this is not true, in practical terms Slaanesh is the deity of pleasure, which can be broad. Pleasure can be derived from various sources, as such this can be anything from sex, eating, companionship, and so on and so forth. However, because Chaos is Chaos, Slaanesh is mostly associated with the extremes of pleasure including lechery, gluttony, extreme masochism, extreme sadism, perverse sexual deviance, and so on. These are just some of the pleasures Slaaneshi followers partake in because Slaanesh&#039;s credo is to experience everything to the fullest. As a practitioner falls ever deeper into the embrace of their dark god, they are consumed with a need to drive these sensations first to the limit of human experience, and then beyond into madness. This basically means: why settle for one loving wife to have sex with you when you can have a hive world of insatiable concubines to fulfill your every desire? Or why eat one disgustingly expensive luxury meal when you could eat a Paradise world&#039;s supply of the stuff? Why just resort to cutting yourself to feel the pleasure of pain when you could be chopping off lumps of your flesh to heighten the sensation of pain? Numerous examples of 40k lore have made it apparent that while those who fall to Slaanesh might start off with a desire to fulfill their rather run-of-the-mill baser instincts, it always spirals into insanity. For example, in the novel &#039;&#039;Shadowsword&#039;&#039;, a young nobleman makes a deal with a devilish creature so that he can possess and sleep with his lady love, who is also his first cousin. By the time all is said and done, a grand party to welcome the forces of Chaos to their world turns into a charnel scene where the guests &#039;&#039;imagine&#039;&#039; themselves to be dancing and enjoying fine food and drink, but in reality they are tearing each other apart with their bare hands and engaging in cannibalism; others believe that they are embracing when their bodies and flesh are literally melding together. These are the types of scenes that truly resonate in the Warp, and thus grant Slaanesh power.&lt;br /&gt;
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One would think that if, as claimed, Slaanesh was the lord of all &#039;&#039;pleasure&#039;&#039; then Slaanesh would be omnipotent because, in the end, biological and psychological fact tells us that every living thing with a fucking Neuron acts in order to feel pleasure and escape pain (the &amp;quot;pleasure principle&amp;quot;). However, here is the most important thing worth emphasizing, just in case you haven&#039;t picked it up already: the point of Slaanesh is not to revel in &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; pain or pleasure. Rather, the point is to gain power from exposing mortals to the types of experiences that a sane person &#039;&#039;could not&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;would not&#039;&#039; ever be able to imagine in the first place. For all but the very strongest and most devout, this pollutes and twists their very souls to such an extent that they remain in thrall to Slaanesh forever. Such horizons of experience and sensation are far, far beyond the predictable inclinations and fetishes of your typical 4chan fa/tg/uy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even [[Khorne]], Slaanesh&#039;s primary rival, feels pleasure in killing, and Tzeentch feels pleasure in [[Just as Planned]]. That is why 40k lore tends to focus on Slaanesh as a God of the most disgusting pleasures ever, not as a God of all pleasure.  Additionally, in the [[fluff]], it does state that most pleasures (like regular love or the desire to eat) that might be covered under the &amp;quot;pleasure principle&amp;quot; are too &amp;quot;weak&amp;quot; to sustain Slaanesh. Considering that it&#039;s damn hard for most humans to get more than a piece of stale toast and a dry handjob before collapsing from exhaustion after a grueling 80-hour week working in some hive-world factory for the Emprah, the only way to get enough sex, drugs, and partying in to impress Slaanesh is to be a ruthless, controlling, evil bastard. (&#039;&#039;It is worth noting that GW seems to have picked up somewhat on this fact. As of the latest daemon codex it does mention that Slaanesh has a particular way of influencing the other chaos gods and that they are all wary of them given that they draw some strength from the extreme behaviours they promote in their followers and are subject to themselves.&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Slaanesh is also associated with the arts and creativity, as creativity means pursuing one&#039;s own personal desires. Self-indulgence and personal expression are the bedrock of the arts, after all. Those attracted to Slaanesh could theoretically be more than just aristocratic ravers, but also particularly eccentric artists, writers, etc. Slaanesh is Sex, Drugs, and Rock &amp;amp; Roll in the purest sense of the word. It is not just the depraved orgy after the concert, but the scintillatingly brilliant concert that caused the orgy to begin with. One could assume that, in order to prevent Slaanesh&#039;s influence from spreading, the Imperium of Man would censor not just content but style. A radically structured poem, a painting with hints of debased content, even a deviation from traditional chord structures would presumably bring the Inquisition to your doorstep. &lt;br /&gt;
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If Slaanesh had a voice actor, it would be [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc80tFJpTuo Tim Curry] and/or Tilda Swinton.&lt;br /&gt;
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==What? Warhammer?==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slaanesh Old.jpg|thumb|right|150px|The first depiction of Slaanesh in Warhammer art.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the new [[Age of Sigmar]] setting, Slaanesh has gone missing. Tyrion and Malerion worked together to capture Slaanesh, unknowningly helped along by the machinations of Tzeentch.  Thus Slaanesh has been removed from the Pantheon of Chaos and replaced by the [[Horned Rat]]. Derp.  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIMg2Xw4_8s While it was thought Slaanesh is being kept in a hidden warehouse while Tyrion works him/her over to make Slaanesh give back Aliathra&#039;s soul], this is revealed to be mostly true.   [[Games Workshop|due to reasons discussed on GW&#039;s page here]]. &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AoSBeholdSlaanesh.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Slaanesh imprisoned: Unable to decide which dildo to use first, Slaanesh is effectively neutralized! Ingenious! (Also, to answer the question you never asked, Slaanesh is not circumcised. Seriously, take a close look at where those chains pierce)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet hope for Slaanesh faction lovers still remains.  With Slaanesh missing, his forces have split between those trying to find and free Slaanesh (the refer to themselves as Seekers), those who are trying to claim their former master&#039;s position (they are referred to as Pretenders and consists of every Chaos Lord and Keeper of Secrets that wants to claim their former masters position as the new god of depravity) and those who have continued to be allied to Archaon in his wars against the Mortal Realms (who are referred to as Invaders).  This last faction is currently the biggest and is the main Slaanesh force fighting Order; it is mostly being led by Slaanesh&#039;s greater daemons who lead Slaanesh&#039;s demonic and mortal followers but some have actually looked to venerating Archaon as their replacement deity.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the release of the Daughter of Khaine battletome it&#039;s revealed that Slaanesh has been trapped in the void space between Ulgu (Realm of Shadows) and Hysh (Realm of Light) by the collective work of [[Tyrion]] and [[Teclis]], now gods of the Hysh, [[Malekith|Malerion]], god of Shadow, and [[Morathi]]. There the elf gods are slowly taking back the elf souls the Chaos god had devoured after the End Times, reforging them to their liking, while Slaanesh is trapped in a position that will make it impossible for him to escape.  That is, unless Morathi  cast a spell to get more souls than it was initially planned for her to receive, a spell that would weaken the chains that are keeping Slaanesh trapped, which of course she did.  Now Slaanesh is ever so slowly getting further from Hysh and closer to Ulgu, which enabled Slaanesh&#039;s followers to learn where he was.  The only things standing in their way are the fact that they can&#039;t reach Slaanesh&#039;s prison, the aelf gods and their forces.  Even then, Slaanesh might eventually be able to free itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the announcement of Realm of Chaos: Wrath and Rapture, it appears GW is ready to bring Slaanesh back to the 40k and AoS universes, along with a (daemonic) host of new models. And this did come to pass... Though it isn&#039;t as grand as many would have hoped. It has been revealed that the 66 chains holding Slaanesh (real subtle, GW) can be broken by certain depraved or powerful acts, ie, an excess of anger from Khorne, or a Stormhost turning on the people they protect (which did happen and was engineered by Slaanesh taking a leaf from Tzeentch&#039;s book).  Having broken a handful of the chains Slaanesh cast illusions to prevent the elves from discovering this, and if the majority of chains get shattered Slaanesh will be strong enough to break the rest.  If Slaanesh ever did escape, he would immediately try and engulf all of Ulgu and Hysh, securing two whole realms and thereby winning the great game though Khorne would object violently, as would Archaon.  However, Archaon still needed Slaanesh and was actively tracking down the trapped god.  Archaon eventually succeeded at finding Slaanesh and started working to free him, though Slaanesh&#039;s sass vexed Archaon.  It would&#039;ve worked eventually, but Archaon had a vision of the Nighthaunt and Bonereapers taking the Shyish realmgate and attacking the Varanspire.  Though Archaon was pissed, since he knew the elf gods would move Slaanesh&#039;s prison and tighten security after this, he abandoned Slaanesh and went back to the Allpoints.&lt;br /&gt;
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But now Slaanesh is a mommy/daddy!  During Morathi&#039;s ritual for godhood, Slaanesh&#039;s spasms caused a stream of saliva that interacted with Morathi&#039;s ritual and gained sentience.  The entity burst from Slaanesh&#039;s prison, and flew through the skies across Ulgu, mutating everything with its presence before crashing to the ground.  The Godseekers followed it to the point of impact, and over time thousands of Hedonites gathered.  There the entity, known only as The Newborn, took on a form so beautiful and terrible that many who looked upon it died and it spoke to  Hedonites, and they may have found a new path to worship Slaanesh.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Followers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Slaanesh Banners.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Slaaneshi banners.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Slaanesh attracts mortal followers from those seeking to become charismatic and popular, but instead corrupts them to become [[Chris-Chan|colossal perverts]]; alternatively, she may attract followers from those who are already [[Ultramarines|colossal perverts]], and corrupt them to become more charismatic and popular.  [[Just as planned]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Alternatively, Slaanesh sometimes finds those in the mortal realm with far more looks than brains to approach and gives them everything they could ever want because she tells them that they simply deserve it, with nothing expected in return...other than them turning into a collossal egotistical hedonist with no sense of responsibility, right and wrong, or empathy as they fuck over creation on whim or for the lulz due to the ultimate entitlement complex possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Slaanesh and Khorne actually compete for the same pool of followers more often than you&#039;d think, which is part of his hatred for it.  A good rule of thumb is this: if a warrior wants to be the &#039;&#039;best&#039;&#039;, gets his thrills from making that perfect shot, that perfect move, [[/v/|that perfect 360 noscope,]] to [[powergamer|hone his or her skills the sharpest they can ever be]], or debasing their foes, they&#039;re Slaaneshi...even if they don’t want to be.  If the thrill lies in just killing people-- the pure joy of murder-- and the skill is just a way of facilitating that, they&#039;re Khornate. Slaaneshi types also get off on the sensory overload rather than actual killing or even pain, like the Emperor&#039;s Children who get carved up by Raven Guard and won&#039;t fight back because the feeling of lightning claws dicing them up is too damn blissful. [[Troll|They also get off on the reactions they get from others]]-- for example, the loyalist who Lucius tricks into slaughtering his own men. These are things that Khorne can’t stand, because Khorne has standards. Slaanesh takes those standards, throws them out the window, follows them out the window and murderfucks them with its arms pumping wildly.&lt;br /&gt;
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When it come to more &amp;quot;social&amp;quot; followers, Slaanesh competes with Tzeentch, as followers of both are known for being silver-tongued manipulative dicks with a huge hard-on for power. Here the difference lies in that Slaaneshi followers seek power for their own gain, usually through charismatic speeches and the like, while Tzeenchians often have more altruistic goals or are more interested in the process of gaining power than actually getting it, intentionally raising the challenge to impossible level just to feed their ambitions. Tzeentch followers are quite notable for being dicks, not evil monsters (...usually, also barring daemons).  Other than being egotistical trolls they&#039;re pretty normal people.  The &#039;huge hard-on&#039; part is also much more [[Heresy|literal]] in Slaanesh&#039;s case. However Tzeentch has realized that since personal gain is inevitable when scheming, Slaanesh still wins, so Tzeentch hates them too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Apart from [[AIDS|the obvious]], Slaanesh and Nurgle rarely have any interaction. There was the matter of the [[Isha|qt Eldar waifu]] Slaanesh wanted to keep for [[/d/|some]] [[rape|after-party]] [[FATAL|entertainment]], but since Nurgle is a fa/tg/uy at heart he couldn&#039;t resist claiming her for himself. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;But they&#039;re mostly over that&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Slaanesh is over it, Nurgle is not. Otherwise, their domains are just too different that they don&#039;t overlap all that much. Those who are ambitious and feel they deserve better choose Slaanesh, while those who give up or accept their lot fall into Nurgle&#039;s open, sweaty arms. Conflict occurs, but love of the self and love of others aren&#039;t as mutually exclusive as the desire to destroy and the desire to create, or a demand for the spotlight against careful orchestration. That being said Nurgle is still not fond of them-- mainly due to the aforementioned Eldar waifu.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Slaaneshi Forces.JPG|thumb|right|500px|Slaaneshi forces in their realm.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Daemonettes]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, hideous crab-clawed hermaphrodites or seductive scythe-clawed elf-girls depending on which fluff you choose to believe, fa/tg/uys love Daemonettes and spend much time eagerly awaiting the drawfags to provide them with moar heresy. Some fluff seems to suggest that they&#039;re hot elf girls until they decide it&#039;s time to rip your face off, at which point they become something more akin to the BDSM glam-rock black-eyed lobster women seen in the current models. Moreover, they&#039;re supposedly attractive to the beholder (though these are often xenophobic assholes and thus only consider themselves beautiful) - this means that it is very likely that their appearance is entirely subject to the individual desires of whomever is perceiving them. This is represented by their hermaphroditic/androgynous appearance, supposedly rendering them attractive regardless of preference or sexuality. Their monstrous nature is a juxtaposition of slender sensuality and horrible, flesh-tearing daemonic claws. Like many Daemons, their appearance is supposed to be highly varied, which is never represented in the models unless you combine all the old and new, modify heavily, and use [[Raging Heroes|proxies]] randomly. Daemonettes are created by Slaanesh&#039;s waking thoughts, popping into existence as she contemplates trolling Khorne, destroying a civilization from within, or getting off. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Seekers of Slaanesh]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, Daemonettes mounted upon [[Steeds of Slaanesh]] which are the mix of an aardvark and a raptor [[dinosaur]]; fast and lots of attacks for not much points, prone to dying in a hail of arrow/bolter fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Fiends of Slaanesh]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, large creatures that look like a bizarre cross between an aardvark and a scorpion with rows of breasts, these are created when Slaanesh dreams (because apparently Chaos Gods sleep). They&#039;re basically if a Daemonette and a Seeker had a child. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Seeker Chariots of Slaanesh]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, hard hitting unit/squad-wipe models, this is whom you call for when you need that pesky [[tarpit]] removed. Right now. From other end of the board. Be cautious though, these things need protection like grimoire and preferrably invisibility,or at least [[Distraction Carnifex|target mitigation]] to live long enough to do their job since they are big targets with juicy 10 armor all round. Also never ever position yourself so that the enemy could have even remote chance of charging these things: even squad of retarded [[Tau|fire warriors]] or some [[High Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)|Spearmen]] can take these chariots down in melee if they get the charge. These things live and die by the hammer of wrath attacks, use them accordingly. Also comes in the &amp;quot;Exalted Seeker Chariot&amp;quot; variant, which is literally just a larger Seeker Chariot crewed by higher ranked Daemonettes. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Hellflayer Chariots of Slaanesh]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, what happens when you combine enough Chariots to make Daemonettes literally [[/d/|dripping]] with excitement at being in battle. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Keepers Of Secrets]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, Slaanesh&#039;s Greater Daemons, like a Daemonette on steroids, ecstasy and Viagra. Created intentionally from Slaanesh&#039;s own darkest thoughts and desires, rather than the Daemonettes/Seekers/Fiends which are created passively, each is radically different (even though there&#039;s only been three different models, one of which is long out of production). Geniuses capable of turning entire armies to their side, or destroying civilizations. The default leaders of almost any Slaaneshi army, unless lead by a...&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Daemon Prince]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, a human (with [[Dechala|one Elf]] as the exception) so devout to Slaanesh that they managed to become a Daemon. In Fantasy this is usually, but not always, a Warriors of Chaos Champion who made the perilous journey of getting not to little or too much attention while in her service. &lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Chaos Space Marines]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, the traitor marines of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children|third legion]] worship Slaanesh exclusively, as do warbands such as the Angels of Ecstasy and the Flawless Host. They also make up a large chunk of the Black Legion, as the Children of Torment.&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Noise Marines]]&#039;&#039;&#039;, the specialist traitors dedicated to Slaanesh, akin to Khorne&#039;s [[Berserkers]], Nurgle&#039;s [[Plague Marines]] or Tzeentch&#039;s [[Thousand Sons]]. Aural-focused traitors who specialise in using [[Sonic Weaponry]] because the cacophony is the only thing that can register on their jaded senses anymore. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghain Can be found IRL also.]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fantasy ===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Dark Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)|Druchii]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: The Warhamer Fantasy evil Elves who are the highest ranking worshipers of Slaanesh, who they call Shornaal, in the [[Cult Of Slaanesh|Cult Of Pleasure]]. In most of the games history (4 editions out of 8 total, the first two having virtually no story whatsoever), Dark Elves had their origin in their Queen [[Morathi]] being the high priestess of Slaanesh, who corrupted her [[Malekith|son]] and about half the Elf race. While most Dark Elves torture and kill in the name of [[Khaine]], Morathi lead a cult of Chaos Elves and regularly allied with other Slaaneshi factions (other than Beastmen, because Morathi kept [[Harpies|her own]] as pets and shits on all others like a good Chaos character should). In later editions, Chaos Elves were retconned away into worshipers of [[Atharti]], [[Hekarti]], and [[Ereth Khial]], three Elven Slaanesh-expy gods, in order to redo the Dark Elf faction as evil Elves who ally with other Elves in the interest of mutual survival instead of evil Elves who just want to watch the world burn while a slave who&#039;s skin has been torn off gives them oral. This choice split many fans, some asking why Elves should worship Slaanesh when they have Khaine instead of Khorne, others asking why they worship Khaine when Khorne is better.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Warriors of Chaos]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: Not-Vikings/Mongols who live in the desolate north of Warhammer Fantasy and fight against each other when not raiding the rest of the world. The closer to the [[Warp Gates]] they are, the more like living Daemons while the furthest south are generally only concerned with survival and not offending gods. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Beastmen]]&#039;&#039;&#039;: Rapist omnivorous (in every sense of the word) animal-mutants that infest the world. Beastmen serve all of Chaos, some serve specific gods more than others but few serve one entirely. Live to literally and canonically shit on civilization and order. Ironically treated like shit by all of the rest of Chaos. Slaanesh, in keeping with the trend, allows his followers to fuck their women and drink their wine. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Hellstriders&#039;&#039;&#039;: Warriors of Chaos mounted upon Seeker mounts. Unlike most Chaos Gods, who give daemonic mounts as rewards for their best followers, Slaanesh (or Keepers of Secrets in Age of Sigmar given Slaanesh&#039;s imprisonment) gives out Seekers to the weak-willed and lazy looking for a quick path to power. Those who fall for this trap find that although they gain power, they also gain a crippling addiction to the souls of their enemies that quickly results in them losing all pleasure outside of killing. If a Hellstrider is unable to kill, they will quite literally die from withdrawal.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Lord of Pain&#039;&#039;&#039;: BDSM-freak Chaos Lords who are obsessed with giving and receiving pain. Not only does their high pain tolerance make them almost Nurgle-level tough, but they can even reflect their pain back to their enemies.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Shardspeaker of Slaanesh&#039;&#039;&#039;: Slaaneshi sorcerers who use their magical mirrors to force their enemies to submit to their most shameful hidden desires. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Myrmidesh Painbringers&#039;&#039;&#039;: The warrior elite of the Hedonites. Myrmidesh Painbringers are unusually chosen for their ability to withstand temptation, denying all carnal pleasures for a single minded focus on perfecting combat and ensuring their enemies die in the most beautiful and painful ways possible.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Symbaresh Twinsouls&#039;&#039;&#039;: Trying to be a disciplined aescetic warrior while being surrounded by perverted freaks is hard. So it isn&#039;t suprising that some Myrmidesh find themselves unable to keep up their eternal No-Nut November and fall off the deep end, allowing their souls to be possessed by daemons. Expectedly, this fusing of daemon and mortal blood makes the Twinsouls a favored unit of [[Syll&#039;Esske]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Blissbarb Archers&#039;&#039;&#039;: The dregs of Hedonite warbands excluded from the rush of melee combat. They coat their arrows in the eponymous Blissbarb poison that’s one part aphrodisiac and another part paralyzing agent.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Blissbarb Seekers&#039;&#039;&#039;: When the aforementioned Archer gets their first taste of steel cutting their skin (and lives to tell about it), they’re likely to become addicted to this feeling and seek to claim a Seeker as their mount in order to chase after this exquisite sensation.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Slickblade Seekers&#039;&#039;&#039;: Elite Hellstriders with a nasty jealous streak against anyone who dares to steal the killing blow from them. They ride on the unique Exalted Seeker of Slaanesh rather than the stock variant.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Slaangor Fiendbloods&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Slaangor]]s are back baby! The shock troopers of the Hedonite hosts, they are venerated by other Slaaneshi followers as physical avatars of the Dark Prince.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Potential semi-retcon of Slaanesh in 40k==&lt;br /&gt;
With the release of &amp;quot;Rise of the Ynnari: Wild Rider&amp;quot; we now have daemons of Slaanesh making an appearance during the [[War in Heaven]]? Now this could be just a case of timey wimey Warp shenanigans but it could also be an indication of something else! What if Slaanesh&#039;s &amp;quot;birth&amp;quot; was actually more akin to a rebirth of something far older; the original sin if you were.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is known that even before the Fall agents of Slaanesh were already at large in the galaxy and actively seeking to bring it into being. If Slaanesh did indeed have a presence all the way back in the War in Heaven then perhaps it has always been there, seeking a way to return, as opposed to beginning to gestate within the Empyrean during the conflict itself. &lt;br /&gt;
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Slaanesh isn&#039;t all about sex, [[Drug|drugs]] and more sex, but actually fits all of the seven deadly sins rather well: [[/d/|Lust]], [[RAGE|Wrath]], [[Blood Ravens|Greed]], [[Perturabo|Envy]], [[Giles|Gluttony]], [[Lazy Marines|Sloth]] and [[Cato Sicarius|Pride]] all fall under Slaanesh&#039;s domain; each of which play key roles in the other God&#039;s spheres of influence also. Of course these are taken to their extremes, as is Slaanesh&#039;s trade mark, but even the other Chaos Gods are extremes in their own way, and though they are all placed above the Dark Prince in terms of power they all may &amp;quot;fear&amp;quot; the influence that Slaanesh has the potential to hold over them and are very wary that the Dark Prince may eventually eclipse them all in power.&lt;br /&gt;
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The War in Heaven is essentially the event(s) that created &amp;quot;Hell&amp;quot; in 40k as many races with a presence in the warp fought and died in the conflict, so it makes sense that there must have been an &amp;quot;original Satan&amp;quot;-like figure as well. Of course, this could be looking too much into this and talking out of our collective arse, but what with Slaanesh in [[Age of Sigmar]] no longer being counted amongst the Four, it opens up a lot of possibilities for when the Dark Prince does eventually return.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Wandering Knight in the Palace of Slaanesh==&lt;br /&gt;
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(AKA [[Kaldor Draigo]] becomes a sleeper agent. Probably. Other things are possible, but this would slap down the Mary Sue, so really, why argue?)&lt;br /&gt;
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While the other Chaos Gods rarely welcome intruders to their lands within the immaterium, Slaanesh loves to tempt visitors to his unnatural domain, and those that dare enter the Lord of Pleasure&#039;s territory risk becoming trapped in its warped delights for eternity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Slaanesh&#039;s realm is divided into six domains, arranged in concentric rings about the Palace of Pleasure. Each of these is a celebration of Slaanesh&#039;s desires, and while they might be mistaken for paradises, nothing in the lands of the Dark Prince is as it seems. An intruder can only reach the Palace of Pleasure, in the very heart of Slaanesh&#039;s territory, by passing through all six of the circles-- an act of will beyond most souls, both mortal and demonic. One amongst the mortal visitors to his realm still looms large in the memory of Slaanesh, however-- a wandering knight of the Adeptus Astartes whose resolve was as strong as silvered adamantium.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first circle the knight pushed through was richly appointed beyond the dreams of kings. Mountains of stacked gold reached towards rainbow mosaics of gemstones in the marble vaults high above; glittering ingots and diamonds beyond count littered the ground. The knight marched past many a starving wretch attempting to count the innumerable gold coins, their sallow faces twisted with mounting greed until their piles toppled, and, weeping, they had to start over again. At every corner of the crossroads stood gilded statues, some of beautiful Slaanesh, others of Daemons and mortals trapped in blissful ecstasy. The trails in the diamond dust underfoot betrayed the fact that the statues were once flesh and blood. The knight had left notions of material wealth long behind, and he strode on without touching a single coin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Crunching his way across a beach of golden teeth, the knight came to the shores of a vast lake of dark wine. The lake was dotted with pallid islands formed from the backs of giants, each linked by criss-crossing bridges. The backward hands of each giant held up a table that groaned under the weight of a lavish feast. There, he saw mortal men gorging themselves on the banquet, wide-eyed and desperate in their hunger as others frantically tried to gulp down the lake itself. The bloated and the obese moaned in pain as they crammed ever more food into their wine-stained mouths. The knight pressed on, distaste twisting his features as he passed the grisly remains of those who had consumed so much that they had physically burst apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wanderer made his way through fields of golden light and soft hay, where lissome maidens and beautiful youths frolicked near-naked in the hallucinogenic musk of the lithe beasts that cavorted with them. The faces and fertile forms of the dancers were impossibly sensual, moulded to the perfect desire of the heart. The knight held his breath and closed his eyes, for though mortal pleasures were forbidden to his order, part of him was still a man. The crooning nymphs gathered around the knight, stroking his silvered armour and whispering of the sweet carnal pleasures they would give him, but he yielded not. The severed limbs and heads that lay underfoot spoke of the truth behind the honeyed lies. Eyes shut, he cut down the daemonette seductresses around him one after another, letting revulsion guide his shining blade.&lt;br /&gt;
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After fighting his way through the feminine contours of the foothills ahead, the knight emerged onto a balcony where he was greeted by roars of adulation and approval. An army of Space Marines so vast its number was beyond counting awaited before him on an endless plain, listening in fevered anticipation of his commands for conquest. Planetary governors nodded in obsequious anticipation, and the High Lords of Terra smiled up at him from smaller balconies of their own, motioning him to speak. The knight recognised one of the rulers from his own mortal life, and stood before him, looking deep into the Philosopher-King&#039;s eyes. Behind the mask of power and self-assurance, he saw eternal, nagging paranoia, gnawing suspicion and hidden doubts that were acid to the soul. The knight shook his head sadly and walked away.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wearied by his ordeals, the wanderer strode on through a mesmerising woodland paradise, its maze of pathways thick with flowers and heavy with thorns. The gentle, fragrant breeze whispered to the knight of past glories, reminding him of the executions he had performed in the Emperor&#039;s name. Mirrored pools reflected the knight as a shining saint, his face serene but his sword bloodied as he artfully carved apart rank after rank of red-skinned Daemons. The warrior turned away, troubled. In the distance, he could make out tortured figures staring intently into mirror pools of their own, each held immobile by the undergrowth as whispering thorns insinuated themselves into their flesh. The wanderer turned his mind to the humility of the cell he once called home. As he did so, the path through the maze writhed and straightened out before him. So the knight trudged on.&lt;br /&gt;
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An endless beach stretched away from the knight, and heavenly choirs sung soothing lullabies as the perfumed sea lapped at the fortress walls of his mind. The wanderer&#039;s bones cried out for rest, even if only for a moment. The warmth of the golden sun above calmed his soul, and the tide began to erode his will. His tired eyes could barely stay open, but his vision was still clear enough to see the horrible truth: the bone-white sand was made from the remains of those who had rested here and fallen into a coma of blissful indolence. His resolve hardened, the knight strode on toward the shimmering palace in the distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was there, beneath the elegant spires, that the wanderer came before almighty Slaanesh. Statuesque and divinely glamorous, the deity visited him in the form of a young man possessed of an androgynous beauty, clean-limbed and fresh with the vigour of youth. The knight unsheathed his rune-etched sword and made to strike him down. To his horror, he found that he could not, for the god-prince was disarming in his innocence and utterly beguiling in his manner.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the purest flame can be extinguished by the tide. In that single moment of doubt, the wanderer was lost. He knelt, bowing his head at last, and a single touch of the being&#039;s glowing sceptre on each shoulder sealed his fate for eternity.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Facts ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nope.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Alright, who&#039;s next for &amp;quot;Purifying&amp;quot;?]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Though Khorne stans and /tg/ will deny it, Slaanesh is secretly the strongest chaos god. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ynnead]] is secretly Slaanesh &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sanguinius]] is jealous of  Slaanesh because they are the only one more fabulous than hi-{{BLAM}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh wants to fuck the Emperor, but every time they try, the Big E psychically bitch-slaps them, destroys all their sex toys and sex slaves and breaks their hands so they can&#039;t fap for a while.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh knows that you can&#039;t spell happiness without penis.&lt;br /&gt;
** Slaanesh is dyslexic.&lt;br /&gt;
***Slaanesh also knows that you can&#039;t spell dyslexic without sex&lt;br /&gt;
* The title of Slaanesh&#039;s greatest mortal champion is owned by Shädman&#039;&#039;(ayyyyy)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh is bitching over the fact how their only representation in the DoW series was the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] paint scheme. And they aren&#039;t even Slaaneshi like, they&#039;re just a generic chaos army. Although, they did grant favor to Eliphas for smashing a ton of soulstones. (And their colours aren&#039;t even correct.)&lt;br /&gt;
**However, concerning stated above, the developers have added noise marines for Dawn of war 2: Retribution. This has made Slaanesh quite happy. However, he/she/it is still &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;pissed off of not getting enough representation&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; OFFENDED BY THIS SILENCE, considering Nurgle gets Plague Champion hero, the Plague Marine Tier 2 unit, and the Epic Great Unclean One daemon, Khorne then gets the Khornate Chaos Lord, Bloodletters and Bloodcrushers, while Tzeentch gets the Sorcerer hero, has the most effective upgrade for the basic CSM squad (Warpfire bolts make everything in front of them shit brix and was flat out broken in earlier versions of its introduction), and all of the Anti-armor upgrades, while they only get a single unit that frankly eclipsed by either Plague Marines or generic Havocs with an autocannon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Charlie Sheen is their first true Daemon Prince (though he was recently diagnosed with HIV which resulted from his sexcapades, so looks like he could swing towards [[Nurgle]].  But just like [[Fulgrim]] his body probably needs to be destroyed first before he can ascend).  It was nearly Malcolm Mcdowell, on account of Mcdowell&#039;s filmography including two of Slaanesh&#039;s favorite films (see below) and Mcdowell&#039;s hedonistic younger years; before Charlie had even reached puberty, Mcdowell was already far into sex and drugs both in his films and real-life.  But as he got older, Mcdowell turned away from hedonism and cleaned himself up.  Other contenders include Gene Simmons and Tila Tequila.   &lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh gets beaten up/off by all of the other Chaos Gods on a fairly regular basis, and gets off on it.&lt;br /&gt;
* If it exists, [[PROMOTIONS|Slaanesh faps/shlicks/shlaps to it]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Tzeentch likes to trick Slaanesh into fighting Khorne to get his daily dose of lulz. Slaanesh always loses these fights pretty badly; and each time, Slaanesh takes it pretty hard. [[C.S.Goto|And this pleases them.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh is secretly depressed that have no friends. Khorne is a dick, and Tzeentch is the biggest dick there is. Nurgle is nice, but Slaanesh can&#039;t get over the fact that he cucked them. (&amp;quot;Can&#039;t get over it&amp;quot; in both a [[PROMOTIONS|positive]] and [[RAGE|negative]] sense.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Also, Nurgle has &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the STDs, which would make him Slaanesh&#039;s natural enemy out in the wild. Isha&#039;s immunity to all diseases is better than any protection, which is a pretty substantial reason why Slaanesh liked her.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh gets bullied by all the other Chaos Gods constantly because none of them like him/her/it. This does not upset the balance, though, because  Slaanesh likes BDSM where they being bullied and tortured by the other Chaos Gods. He/she lets them do it, and could probably beat them if they tried.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh is Tzeentch&#039;s second favorite victim for his hijinks, because it&#039;s oh so easy to string them along with offers of porn, whores, BDSM and/or drugs.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Khorne [[Rip and Tear|regularly tears off Slaanesh&#039;s arms]] and beats them over the head with them (Again, this inadvertently makes Slaanesh orgasm, which is why she/he &#039;&#039;lets&#039;&#039; Khorne does it). &lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh was doping when they killed the Eldar Gods, they couldn&#039;t really beat them all without using performance enhancing drugs. (at least that what Khaine, a god of war and destruction, keeps insisting when ever someone asks him why he got both figuratively and possibly literally raped by a god(ess) of sex drugs and rock&#039;n&#039;roll) &lt;br /&gt;
** Slaanesh is always on drugs (Except psychiatric medication, they kill sex drive down to the very biology)&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh attempted to fight the Nightbringer in a desperate attempt to win back some street cred, they got their left boob cut off for their trouble. It hurt so bad/good that it retroactively cut off the left boobs of all of Slaanesh&#039;s greater daemons and that&#039;s why they all only have one boob (or six). Given the new backstory and their time of birth, this means that Slaanesh lost against a Necron Pokémon. &lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh is a great patron of the arts. Their favourite films include:&lt;br /&gt;
** Hellraiser: Slaanesh&#039;s number one film. In fact, they took a lot of inspiration on many of the movie&#039;s aspects... &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;That is, of course, a lie. They actually ripped off Hellraiser.&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Hellraiser ripped them off. Slaanesh had a cameo appearance in the sequel dressed as a lozenge.&lt;br /&gt;
** A Serbian Film: Slaanesh&#039;s second favorite movie. They already started putting NEWBORN PORN into her/his daily schedule.&lt;br /&gt;
** Pink Flamingos: Slaanesh&#039;s third favourite movie, which is actually a film adaptation of Slaanesh&#039;s journal.  Slaanesh especially enjoyed the depictions of their hobbies (including bestiality, scat fetishes and vore), that the movie quotes them directly (see Divine&#039;s quote above).&lt;br /&gt;
** A Clockwork Orange: One of Slaanesh&#039;s favorite movies; not so much the book it was adapted from as it was less about sex and more a commentary on the nature of morality. (Although Slaanesh faps/shlicks to commentaries on morality too.)  They like to jerk-off at many of the movie&#039;s aspects, but more notably Malcolm Mcdowell&#039;s sexy face.  They also find the death of one of the characters totally hilarious, due to the fact that said character was killed by a giant rocking ceramic phallus straight to the face. &#039;&#039;&#039;BLOWJOB OF DEATH !!! LULZ !!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Unbelievable and improbable? Well here&#039;s evidence to prove it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRSag-L-GQ Giant rocking ceramic phallus attack !!!]. &lt;br /&gt;
** The Rocky Horror Picture Show: Mostly because of Tim Curry (who is actually Slaanesh).&lt;br /&gt;
** Legend: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3J91bPrW9A Also because of Tim Curry, who practically plays a daemon prince of Slaanesh].&lt;br /&gt;
** Caligula: The movie written by Gore Vidal for copious amounts of sex, incest and Malcolm Mcdowell as the title character.  Slaanesh&#039;s favorite scenes are when Caligula engages in an incestuous threesome with his sister and his fiance, and the giant orgies on stage (don&#039;t watch the latter if you have a weak stomach - there&#039;s a real snake in one scene and [[FATAL|you don&#039;t want to know what the woman does with it]]).&lt;br /&gt;
** Eyes Wide Shut. Slaanesh has heard the film described as &amp;quot;Just Artsy Porn&amp;quot;, but doesn&#039;t get the criticism. It&#039;s Art and it&#039;s Porn. What&#039;s not to love? &lt;br /&gt;
** Event Horizon: A documentary of how he/she/it is directly responsible for fucking up humanity&#039;s first venture into the Warp. &lt;br /&gt;
** High Rise: Some say it holds the essence of the one time Slaaneshi and Khaine got jiggy with it.&lt;br /&gt;
** Salo or 120 days of Sodom: Slaanesh liked it better when they thought it was real and not just special effects.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Stuff: A movie about the time some railroad workers found lakes of Slaanesh&#039;s jizz at a quarry and marketed it as dessert food due to its properties, leading to numerous shenanigans and giving Slaanesh much lulz that they never learned where it came from.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh enjoys the Song of Ice and Fire books due to the copious amounts of incest and midget sex and the TV adaption Game of Thrones because they added sex scenes and casting several porn stars on top of this.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh&#039;s favorite band is GWAR, because everything with them is sex, drugs, and rock and roll in excess, even covering their audience in jizz, blood, random chemicals, and mixtures of all three, and inciting massive blood orgies constantly.&lt;br /&gt;
* Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams is also suspected to be one of the early influences of Slaanesh in human music culture, the singer suspected to be one of his/her/its avatars.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh gets ALL the pussy, as well as all the dick, cloca, ovipositor, stamen, pistil, and pilus.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh tried to seduce all of the remaining C&#039;tan at once. Slaanesh ended up getting the pleasure sensors in its brain lobotomized. S/he got off on this.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh found Captain Flashheart so magnificent in Blackadder that they created a daemon prince in his image. Woof woof!&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite psychic powers supposedly being Tzeentch&#039;s specialty, Slaanesh&#039;s tend to be the really [[cheese|cheesy]] ones. 3rd edition had a minor power called Siren, which forbids the caster from being shot at in the opponent&#039;s shooting phase (it&#039;s just as broken as it sounds). 4th edition has Lash of Submission, which the Chaos Marine tactics cover the usage of (in a nutshell, GW admitted they didn&#039;t realize how good it turned out to be and it was the most used on daemon princes even though the +1I from the required MoS wasn&#039;t very useful). And what about 6th edition? While Tzeentchian sorcerers focus on pwning the shit our of enemy with (mediocre) mind bullets and warp-beams, Slaaneshi ones pack a whole lot of cheesy buffs and debuffs, which makes them so much better. Similar deal in Fantasy, where Slaanesh, some of the time, offers a better selection of magic than Tzeentch.&lt;br /&gt;
*Slaanesh is the only entity in existence who listens to the My Dad Wrote A Porno podcast purely for erotic purposes. He/she/it cannot understand for the life of him/her/it why no one else finds cervix-grabbing sexy.  &lt;br /&gt;
** Still, ]they fap/shlick/???-PROFIT at this.&lt;br /&gt;
*Mentioning the names of Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn gives Slaanesh a massive boner/lady-boner.  Though Slaanesh didn&#039;t have a hand in inventing the internet, three guesses why Slaanesh loves the internet, and the first two don&#039;t count.  Mentioning Hugh Hefner also has a similar effect.&lt;br /&gt;
* As a patron of the arts, Slaanesh has many favorite authors, so can&#039;t pick one.  Having said that, Marquis de Sade is a strong contender.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Considering that Slaanesh is about excess, there might be several other types of Marines besides Noise Marines we don&#039;t know about:&lt;br /&gt;
** Smell Marines, who use gasses to do whatever they wish through peoples noses, whether it be death, insanity, paralysis, suggestibility, &#039;seeing colors&#039;, and so on, always permanent brain damage. This is a way to get Nurgle followers to convert.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sight Marines, whose weapons create wondrously intricate bloom and color effects of equally detailed and aesthetically (only to a branch of masochists masochists can&#039;t stand) pleasing. This is a way to get Khorne followers to convert.&lt;br /&gt;
** Touch Marines, who know the nervous system better than a Bene Gesserit, able to bring the mightiest warriors down with the right jab in the right spot, consumed with uncontrollable orgasms.&lt;br /&gt;
**Taste Marines, think about the spiciest thing you&#039;ve ever eaten, now imagine that a million times stronger, we are talking Exterminatus level of scovilles here, literally melt your god damn tongue off heat. It&#039;s like that only worse. They would use super pepper spray that can literally eat through armor.&lt;br /&gt;
*Also, a former Tzeentch follower gone Slaaneshi would be incredibly dangerous: Tzeentch followers understand indeterminism (from a very distorted, cynical perspective) and also see knowledge as power per circumstance to win where force, charisma and economics cannot. A devout Slaaneshi seeks to experience everything. Thus a former Tzeentchian, already well read on enough to convince themselves they experienced it, or well read enough to steal peoples experiences, who became a hedonist addict as well would be left with one desire: to be omnipotent and thus be able to go beyond the limits of mortal imaginings in pursuit of understanding and experience for the sake of understanding and experience.&lt;br /&gt;
*Slaanesh tried to get in Khorne&#039;s head by seeking to understand the appeal of skulls.  Instead Slaanesh got bored and invented the idea of skullfucking. &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;{{Blam|DAMN IT SLAANESH WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO MY SKULL THRONE THIS IS DISGUSTING!! IT&#039;S EVERYWHERE!! IT&#039;S OOZING OUT OF EVERY EYE SOCKET!!! I&#039;M NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO SIT ON THAT AGAIN AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!}}&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**Khorne secretly loves it when Slaanesh does this, because now he has even more of an excuse to go out and collect enough skulls to replace it.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|Slaanesh Patrols will skull fuck your family.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device|If you masturbate with barbed wire, a daemon of slaanesh will be summoned, and you will be exterminatus-ed]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh secretly wants Khorne. S/he&#039;s upset that the &#039;Special K&#039; hates her/him/it.&lt;br /&gt;
**However, if Slaanesh ever did create a copy of him/her/their/itself, then the two would immediately try to murderfuck each other, in a kinky simulacrum of Highlander. This would apply to all of the main ruinous powers, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;apart from&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; including Nurgle, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;who would simply hug his&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; whose female double &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;and then get to work with said double on a particularly virulent strain of super aids/crotch rot.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; would get jealous of Isha and conspire with Slaanesh to get rid of that home-wrecking skank.&lt;br /&gt;
*Slaanesh is the patron &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;god&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;goddess&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; deity of bonobos (look them up).&lt;br /&gt;
*Slaanesh&#039;s &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; criticism of the Cats movie is that there are no visible genitals.&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaanesh #fuckedPalpatine.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gallery ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Slaaneshfaggot.jpeg|A real-life worshipper of Slaanesh. &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaaneshi.JPG|Slaanesh followers DO COCAINE!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonette commisssar.JPG|That&#039;s a real [[commissar]], just look at the [[hat]].&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonette02.JPG|DDaemonette&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonette01.JPG|It&#039;s not furry, you can totally fap to it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Daemonette.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaaneshi2.JPG|Why it&#039;s good to be Slaanesh follower.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonxmas copy.jpg|Slaanesh can be festive as well. &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Lurvemudkipz.JPG|Evidence that it is possible that some [[pokémon]] are susceptible to Chaotic influence. &lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Slaaneshi mudkips.JPG|Oh god. ;_;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh trainer.jpg|There is no excuse or explanation for this. &lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaaneshijack copy.jpg|This image can be used to improve a bad thread.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Irresistible.jpg|Simply Irresistible&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Dranon5.jpg|Mr Culexus&#039; interpretation of Slaanesh. Notice the massive bulge in the crotch that&#039;s bigger than it&#039;s boobs.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Not_too_abysmal_by_Mr_Culexus.jpg|Love can bloom in the galaxy of Transylvania&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1271157389405.jpg|What a Slaaneshi raptor would look like by non-GW canon.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:daemonette_minerva.png|Who else did you think furries worshiped?&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Slaanesh_LAWL.jpg|LAWL&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Trapmarine.jpg|Slaanesh Chaos Marines come with a little &amp;quot;extra&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Trapmarine_BW.jpg|... which may not be so &amp;quot;little&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonette_with_seeker_mount.jpg|She &amp;quot;rides&amp;quot; it... if you know what I mean... no seriously, zoom in if you don&#039;t believe me. Although for your sake you really should take my word for it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:643214 - Daemonette Eldar Warhammer 40k howling banshee warhammer yuliapw.jpg|The more common and usual fate of Eldar.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh cosplay 1 by zk87-d2zo47q.jpg|Now 262.71% more real!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh Time.jpg|You might be mixing up love and lust.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh_miniature_closeup.jpg|Gimme some sugar&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Slaanesh+hr giger.jpg|H. R. Geiger is pleased&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh by zk87-d2z4bpv.jpg|Lashes of Torment!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh-153102-SweetAngel.jpg|She Who Thirsts indeed&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Khorne-and-Slaanesh.jpg|Khorne is sooo tsundere...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh by genzoman-d2y8ylf.jpg|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2qT7GylRxw And to think... I hesitated]&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Dark_Prince_of_Pleasure_Slaanesh_wfrp.jpg|From the old [[WFRP]] days&lt;br /&gt;
Image:MoeSlaanesh.png|How can anyone not want to serve something so utterly &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;adorable&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; heretical?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1419021850273.jpg|Yes, that is a Santa outfit.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Anons_fall_to_Chaos.png|Anon heralds the Age of Strife.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Champion of Slaanesh RL.png| We have the makings of a daemon prince here!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HereticalUseOfChainswords.gif| When you say &amp;quot;Go Fuck Yourself with a Chainsword,&amp;quot; Slaanesh will take it literally.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Cultist-chan24.jpg|Slaanesh has improved cultist chan&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Wildslaanesh.png|Slaanesh Demon corrupts children&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Slaanesh-sorcerer.jpeg|Slaanesh makes the Cenobites from Hellraiser look good.&lt;br /&gt;
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 Give yourself over to absolute pleasure&lt;br /&gt;
 Swim the warm waters of sins of the flesh&lt;br /&gt;
 Erotic nightmares beyond any measure&lt;br /&gt;
 And sensual daydreams to treasure forever&lt;br /&gt;
 Can&#039;t you just see it. Whoa ho ho!&lt;br /&gt;
 Don&#039;t dream it, be it...&lt;br /&gt;
 Don&#039;t dream it, be it...&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azazel]] - The oldest existing [[Daemon Prince]] of Slaanesh in [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shalaxi Helbane]] Slaanesh main [[Keeper of Secrets]] in [[Warhammer 40,000]] and [[Age Of Sigmar]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dechala]] - The oldest existing Chaos Champion special character of Slaanesh in [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Masque]] - Slaanesh&#039;s former fav fab Daemonette stripper, and current PR rep. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sigvald]], Slaanesh&#039;s favorite not-Caligula/not-Joffrey.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] legion - The largest contingent of sick fucks on this side of the warp. And on that side of the warp.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fulgrim]] - Primarch of the largest contingent of sick fucks ever.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bile]] - What you get by combining a self-obsessed homosexual and Dr. Frankenstein, only this one is played by geriatric [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_%28wrestler%29 Glenn Jacobs] instead of young Tim Curry.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucius]] - Considered by some as the Sickest of Fucks amongst the living.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Doomrider]] - He does COCAINE!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miriael Sabathiel]] - The most infamous [[Sisters of Battle|Sister of Battle]] to fall to Slaanesh. Commonly mistaken as the &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Chaos Sister of Battle by people who haven&#039;t read [[Ephrael Stern|Daemonifuge]]. Last seen hunting Eldar to give them [[Rape|hugs]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Codex - Fallen Sororitas]] - An entire homebrew army of Slaaneshi Sisters of Battle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Daemonette]] - Daemons of Slaanesh. Viewing said content is heretical, in 20 seconds or less after clicking the link, expect a squad of inquisitorial storm troopers to barge-in and blam you to hell. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reasonable Daemonette]] - Slaanesh&#039;s perversion knows no bounds. Hers does, and she respects yours.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Loli D]] - The [[loli]] variant of the Slaaneshi Daemonette. Viewing said content is [[Extra Heresy|extra heretical]]. E-Commissars can and will [[Exterminatus|blam you from your monitor with the utmost prejudice]] if you click on this link.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Slaanesh&#039;s_sacrifice.pdf Slaanesh&#039;s Sacrifice] - Some Slaaneshi writefaggotry for the more heretical among you.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRPIsrxUc_E Rick and Morty&#039;s visit to the Realm of Slaanesh]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-gHgcmFB6Q Slaanesh&#039;s visit to the Realm of Rick and Morty]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://pastebin.com/5QZMB7nH Excessively Vanilla] - AKA the &#039;&#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039;&#039; time Slaanesh goes full-on vanilla, including actual marriage, handholding, and under the cover missionary sex for the sole purpose of procreation &lt;br /&gt;
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