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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Silver Skull.jpg|300px|right|thumb|WE ARE THE EMPRAH&#039;S FUREH!Also, [[Beakie]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;For the vidya gaem, please see: [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall [[Finecast|mould]] them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great [[Pauldrons|armour]] shall I clad them and with the [[Bolter|mightiest guns]] will they be armed. They will be untouched by [[Nurgle|plague]] or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have [[Deep Strike|tactics]], [[Steel Rain|strategies]] and [[Dreadnought|mac]][[Centurion Squad|hin]][[METAL BOXES|es]] so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against [[Chaos|the Terror]]. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my [[Robert Heinlein|Space Marines]] and they shall know no fear.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;-The [[God-Emperor of Mankind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Space Marines&#039;&#039;&#039;, also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Indrick Boreale|SPESS MEHREENS]]&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &amp;quot;Marinelets&amp;quot; now that the [[Primaris Marines|Chadmarines]] are here) and canonically named the Adeptus Astartes (Astarte is the Greek name for the Mesopotamian goddess of war, Ishtar. [[Derp|Ironic given that the Astartes is an all-male organization]]) are an army in the [[Warhammer 40,000]] universe. They are bio-enhanced super soldiers clad in [[Power Armour]], and are generally regarded as the toughest warriors to ever serve the [[Emprah|Emperor]] (except for the Adeptus Custodes and Imperial Assassins). The average Space Marine is around eight feet tall. They used to be seven feet in the old fluff, but [[Dan Abnett]] and the rest of Games Workshop have a hard-on for gigantism (though they have addressed the problems real-life gigantism can cause by throwing in more bio-engineering) so they jacked them up a foot, though RPGs from Fantasy Flight Games and games by THQ scaled them back to the more reasonable seven feet. Although do note that the height of Marines can vary greatly; some can even reach &#039;&#039;ten&#039;&#039; feet, like [[Asterion Moloc]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Internally, they have bones that can repel anything short of a boltgun round and can breathe underwater even without their helmets on because they have a third lung. They can also breathe all but the most potent of toxic fumes with little to no damage to their respiratory system, have two hearts, and live for hundreds of years (they may be functionally immortal, but they usually die in battle after a few centuries, so nobody can be sure). They are vastly more powerful in their [[fluff|official descriptions]] than they actually are in the &#039;&#039;Warhammer 40,000&#039;&#039; tabletop game (although the Marines statted in [[Dark Heresy]] or [[Rogue Trader (RPG)]] are walking rapemachines, and the [[player character]] Marines in [[Deathwatch]] are hard as nails). Much like the [[Chaos Space Marines]] are the 40k successors of the [[Warriors of Chaos]], Space Marines are the 40k successors of Warrior Priests, right down to their BALD. Portrayals range from hardcore but plausible super-soldiers to shameless [[Mary Sue]]s who could fight off Batman with one hand and the Joker with the other. Although occasionally, they serve to make other galactic forces seem superior. &#039;&#039;More like the Ineptes Astartes.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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They account for approximately 35% of the playable armies (counting chaos space marines) in 40k, over 21.4% (yeah, I thought that was a pretty conservative estimate too) of played armies among the 40k fandom (factoring in that people can collect and play more than one 40k army), and as of October 2010, receive about 50% or more of new releases. While there are many, &#039;&#039;many&#039;&#039; chapters that you can choose from, the actual armies basically boil down to six main choices: [[Dark Angels]], [[Blood Angels]], [[Space Wolves]], [[Grey Knights]], [[Legion of the Damned]] (barely), [[Deathwatch]], and everybody else. Everyone who&#039;s a successor of the first two choices follows their codex and generally share their units, while the &amp;quot;everybody else&amp;quot; just follows the generic Space Marine codex. Don&#039;t let the promotional art fool you, though; the Space Marine army isn&#039;t exclusively Ultramarines. It used to be that you also had individual codices the [[Black Templars]], but they got folded into the generic Space Marine army. At least they still get special chapter-specific units, which is more than can be said for the likes of the [[Salamanders]] or other important yet still-neglected chapters. But nooo, the Ultramarines need every type of special character...&lt;br /&gt;
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Contrary to that, fluff-wise Space Marines are amongst the smallest factions in the game. With all Chaos and Loyalist Marines combined they number below two millions in a galaxy where Imperium alone have tens of millions of honest to good inhabited worlds (not some dipshit colonies with a population of only few millions). In fact any single capital-class space ship have a population higher than the entirety of Marines in the Galaxy. Furthermore, marine armies are extremely fractured, very rarely deployed at above a few companies per war zone. GW never cared to explain how forces so small could have such a huge impact on the battlefields, when Orks, Guard and Tyranids could field their troops in millions, and Chaos can convert entire populations of planets (which is often tens of billions). Regardless, everything that is something in the setting has a tendency to at least have a bit Space Marines in it, if they aren&#039;t flat-out the protagonists. Expect enormous campaigns to revolve around a few companies, regardless of the involved numbers of Guardsmen and enemy xenos and chaotic characters, and the Marines to be the key to victory in any given war.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the many kinds of 40k fans, the Space Marine fanboy might be the most obnoxious &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; common one. They closely resemble fans of a politically radical movements; having little to no ability to see their own faction&#039;s obvious and glaring faults, while demonstratively arguing that all other factions are below them. The Space Marine fan fervently believes that any Marine-centered Bolter Porn presents the truth about the setting, which will lead to many a SM Fan proclaiming that they know &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; how all other factions are weaker in relation to Marines, regardless of what the actual fans of those factions and accepted lore actually says. Space Marine fans are often fans who have been reading the books or playing Dawn of War before getting into the wider setting, and as such get their views in a bit of a twist. Fortunately, many Space Marine fans end up migrating to another faction, becoming bored with the Marines and getting into a faction [[Orks|with some]] [[Imperial Guard|meat in]] [[Dark Eldar|it]], or, in search of further elitist kicks, get&#039;s [[Eldar|into something]] [[Tau|even worse]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] [[Meme|has a hard-on for Space Marines]]. [[Slaanesh|Between the writers favoritism and the &amp;quot;Spots the Space Marine&amp;quot; fiasco, it&#039;s gotten to the point where they should seek professional help]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The name Adeptus Astartes is usually portrayed as meaning Star Adepts. However [[Just As Planned|Astarte is actually Greek]] for [[Not As Planned|Ishtar, the Mesopotamian goddess of fertility, love, war, sex and sexuality.]] The Emprah [[HERESY|may have been horny and/or romantically interested]] [[Rule 63|in the idea of a badass God-Empress]] and [[What|named his sons to symbolically show this]] using a language that only he and [[Ollanius Pius]] [[Derp|are the speakers of]] besides dead people and three of [[Khorne|the]] [[Nurgle|Ruinous]] [[Tzeentch|Powers]] (unlikely given the Emperor was anti-theistic and anti-religious), or this is just the Emperor keeping himself sane by engaging in humor he knows only one loyal person will get, which does not include his last [[Malcador the Sigillite|two]] [[Companion|friends]]. [[Grimdark|No wonder the Emprah doesn&#039;t smile much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;THIS JUST IN: THE SPACE MARINES JUST GOT AN UPGRADE! See [[Primaris Marines]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Prayer before battle.jpg|250px|left|thumb|Marine with half his face missing, skulls in the wall, bolter laying ready and servitors with hoods swinging censers. Ladies and gents, [[Warhammer 40k]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the end of the [[Age of Strife]], the Emperor of Mankind(over achieving at it&#039;s finest) wanted to reunite [[humanity]] in a [[Great Crusade]] across the galaxy, and he realized that in order to do this he would need one epic-ass army and equally epic generals to lead it. He created the [[Primarchs]], his sons, to be his generals, and let me tell you, these guys were some of the most insanely powerful badasses in all the lore of 40k, and that is saying something. (There is a story in which [[Sanguinius|one of them]] snaps a fucking [[Bloodthirster]]&#039;s spine over his knee.) From their DNA, he created the [[First Founding|Legiones Astartes, the first Space Marines]]. Their first task was to locate their Primarchs, because the [[Chaos Gods|Gods]] of [[Chaos]] had scattered them across the galaxy in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts at human reunification( they were basically just butt-hurt that they didn&#039;t have some baddass buttfucking sons). All of the Primarchs were eventually recovered and reunited with their respective legions, but then, at the height of the Space Marines&#039; power, disaster struck. [[Horus]], the Emperor&#039;s most trusted Primarch, fell to Chaos and turned traitor along with his legion, the [[Luna Wolves]], and several others followed suit. After much [[Grimdark|sorrow, pain, and civil warring]], the Emperor killed Horus personally(Daddy issues at their finest yet again), but was mortally wounded in the process, which is why he is now a zombie being kept alive by the technologies of the Golden Throne(Undead Heresy?). The traitor legions, who are now known as the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Chaos Space Marines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; TRAITOR ASTARTES, were defeated and pushed back to the [[Eye of Terror]]. All of the Primarchs that did not fall to Chaos during the Horus Heresy have either disappeared or been killed so every teenager ever, and until very recently, none remained to lead the Space Marine. ([[Roboute Guilliman]], primarch of the Ultrasmurfs, long enshrined and [[Matthew Ward|(according to some people)]] healing in stasis has recently been revived after ten thousand years). In addition, after the Heresy, the legions were mostly [[Second Founding|split into smaller &amp;quot;Chapters&amp;quot;]] of up to a thousand Marines according to the teachings of the [[Codex Astartes]] (although some Chapters, such as the [[Space Wolves]] and the [[Black Templars]], do not follow Astartes orthodoxy and maintain forces in much greater numbers, and [[Dark Angels|some chapters]] go so far as to form almost legion-strength forces.)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Space Marines are most commonly looked upon as warrior-monks, generally referring to each other as &amp;quot;Brother&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Battle Brother&amp;quot; or some variation thereof based on rank, spending most or all of their time training, in battle, or venerating the Emperor. However, no two Chapters are exactly alike, and many differ wildly from the standard perception of the Marines. The Space Wolves, as one example, appear to be much less disciplined than most other Chapters, maintaining a much larger force than permitted by the Codex and frequently having great feasts with much merriment and drinking (the Space Wolves happen to produce the only intoxicating beverage known to have any effect on Marine physiology, and which liquefies the innards of non-Astartes). Their attitude toward others in the Imperium can also differ greatly from Chapter to Chapter or even from marine to marine. Some are very idealistic, believing very strongly in their role as protectors of humanity (such as the [[Celestial Lions]] or the [[Salamanders]]). Others, like the [[Black Templars]], tend to disregard the ordinary elements of the Imperium, and emphasize much more their role as a weapon against its enemies.And some are just Angry.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their attitude towards the Emperor can also vary. Although they are typically believed to worship him as a deity like most of the rest of the Imperium, the Space Marines are, by virtue of their gene-seeds, derived from the Primarchs and hence the Emperor himself, making them much closer to him than most humans. In fact, many of the Space Marine chapters&#039; beliefs maintain some of the old [[Imperial Truth]] that the Emperor was not a god, but simply the greatest of mortal men, worthy of praise and veneration but not a deity proper. Although it is true that the majority of the chapters certainly venerate him in an orthodox manner, others just scream his name a lot because that&#039;s tradition.&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;The exact degree of Emperor-worship in the Space Marine chapters is a bit mushy. Some openly refer to the Emperor as the God-Emperor while others are outright contemptuous of the idea. Captain Zachariah Kersh, later Chapter Master, was such a nah-sayer but was converted by his experiences during the destruction of the Cholercaust on Certus-Minor. This could mean that among the various Chapters the exact degree of veneration of the Emperor could be entirely a personal choice rather than explicit doctrine. But again the inconsistencies therein make it hard to judge. Alternatively to this theme being a result of lazy writers is that it is in fact a clever but under-developed effect of the progression of the plot of Warhammer 40k. Such that by the end of the 41st millennium, things are so awful that even the Space Marines seek resolve in the worship of the God-Emperor.&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;.    &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blingmarine.jpg|thumb|right|The great Papa Smurf hisself.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Space Marines are generally regarded as having something of an &amp;quot;unfair advantage&amp;quot; in the tabletop, mainly because every young 40k player has a strong liking for them, and almost every unit in the listings has at least a 3+ armor save, making them rather hard to kill, especially when considering armies such as the Blood Angels have models that allow players to roll an additional &amp;quot;Feel No Pain&amp;quot; 4+ save if they fail the 3+ one. The problem is that it took 3 Space Marine chapter books in 5th edition to come up with a Space Marine Codex framework that didn&#039;t suck (almost nothing in C:SW is non-competitive or poorly priced), which is why Long Fangs are usually 50 points cheaper than their Space Marine counterparts, while being twice as effective. Why are Devastators supposedly more expensive? Combat tactics. Yeah, you&#039;re never going to use it. The Ultramarines in particular are an extremely popular choice of Space Marine chapter, and their blue design coupled with the small size of the miniatures often leads to them being referred to as &amp;quot;Smurfs&amp;quot;. Thanks to [[Indrick Boreale]], the Space Marines in general are frequently called &amp;quot;Spess Mehreens&amp;quot;, or variations to that effect. The Space Marines of today look very different from the glory days of Rogue Trader, when they earned the nickname &amp;quot;[[beakie|beakies]]&amp;quot; because of their signature helmets.&lt;br /&gt;
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Denizens of /tg/ are prone to claiming a wide variety of things about the Space Marines, usually about their sexual activity (or lack thereof), ranging from assertions that the genitalia of a Space Marine is nonfunctional to claims that they are castrated during the creation process. They never have any supporting evidence for these theories and it is not clear whether or not Space Marines are allowed to have sex, which chapters would allow them to have sex, if they even can have sex, if they&#039;re still capable of normal human reproduction, or what bits they may or may not still possess. Still, that doesn&#039;t stop anyone from stating their personal opinion as if it were fact. The most revealed is that a female inquisitorial henchwoman got an eyeful of a naked Grey Knight novice and was rather impressed by what she saw. The Grey Knight, naturally, had no idea why she seemed so interested.&lt;br /&gt;
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An interesting point to not is that right below this segment on the right is an image of a marine with a loin-cloth. If there is no modesty to protect, why protect it? One suspects that the reason marines aren&#039;t afforded the luxury of sex (aside from distraction from serving the Emperor), is that they&#039;d kill whatever unfortunate woman or xenos livestock they take a fancy to.&lt;br /&gt;
The point is, due to psychological conditioning and likely the sterilizing effects of the augmentation process, followed by a century plus of service to the emperor in radiation and toxic filled environments, they are simply disinclined towards it, and wouldn&#039;t result in any more meat-shields for the Emperor&#039;s glorious wars regardless, thus only serving the [[Slaanesh|arch-hedonist.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Creation==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1396451926378.jpg|400px|thumb|right|From deranged lab-experiment to fucking [[awesome]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Knowing [[Chaos|just]] [[C&#039;tan|what]] [[Necron|the]] [[Dark Eldar|fuck]] [[Ork|was]] [[Eldar|waiting]] for humanity in space, the Emperor of Mankind designed the [[gene-seed]], [[Gene-seed#The_Organs|nineteen special organs]] to enhance the regular human body to keep the Space Marines going when fighting these monstrosities. Over a series of several years, human adolescents, dubbed aspirants, are selected through a rigorous process which varies from Chapter to Chapter. They are always male, with cited reasons including that Astartes are basically clones of their Primarchs, and by extension the Emperor, and that the geneseed requires portions of the Y-chromosome to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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When their training goes to the next stage, the aspirants are implanted with the initial gene-seed. They then become neophytes, Space Marines in training. As the gene-seed is implanted into them, the neophytes also go through hypnotic conditioning to hone their responses. By the time they&#039;re done, the subject has few impulses beyond fighting and killing in the name of the Emperor (it&#039;s sometimes thought that this is what kills their sex drive) and most of their memories of their earlier lives are all but forgotten. The only mental frailties remaining are a &amp;quot;fear&amp;quot; (ATSKNF notwithstanding) of failure and experiencing notable stress when severely injured or crippled, as they are no longer able to fulfill their function.&lt;br /&gt;
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After receiving all these organs and conditioning, it&#039;s highly arguable if a Space Marine still qualifies as human. Though the [[Imperium of Man]] has basic &amp;quot;kill on sight&amp;quot; orders for most non-humans and venerates the &amp;quot;Holy Human Form&amp;quot;, the topic of whether or not Space Marines violate this edict is ignored, mostly because they were designed by the Emperor and thus considered holy creations. There is also an understandable hesitance to declare war on the only thing standing between the Imperium and the unfathomable evil of the [[Chaos Gods]]. Arguably marines are no less human than Mechanicum, just with organic implants instead of bionics, and mechanicums are likewise still count as 100% right and proper humans (even if most of them consider themselves a separate species or at least &amp;quot;humans 2.0&amp;quot; ).&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, this religious need to adhere to the Holy Human Form may be why the Emperor designed the gene-seed to be a bio-enhancement project and not a genetic modification one; all of a Space Marine&#039;s inhuman abilities are a result of the artificially engineered organs shoved into their bodies during their creation, either directly (the secondary heart or multi-lung) or indirectly (the Ossmodula, which alters their hormone balance and so makes their skeleton growth go berserk). Consequently, this means a Space Marine would technically pass a genetic scan of being &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; better than an [[abhuman]] like an [[Ogryn]] or [[Ratling]] would.  Though, the holiness of the Human Form came long after the Horus Heresy, so this theory is unlikely.  Besides, the Emperor did attempt genetic modification but it proved either too expensive (Thunder Warriors) or resulted in unrecorded disasters.  Gene-enhancements are also much more conductive to mass-production.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, this tramples all over the spirit of the law whilst technically adhering to the letter, but it&#039;s hardly unique -- see the Ecclesiarchy having its own army of [[Sisters of Battle|power-armored gun-toting nuns]] despite being formally forbidden to have &amp;quot;men&amp;quot; under arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another theory is that the Space Marines were designed this way for more symbolic reasons. Done this way Marines retain a link to humanity; all were born human, no more than any other citizen. They became more through science and training but they aren&#039;t some new species or a warrior caste. As marines they are beyond humans but they know where they came from. The regular citizens see the marines as the best of humanity, proxies for the emperors power. The marines remember humans are their kin and while they are more than human they are still the same species all coming from the same root. The power vested in them doesn&#039;t pass by blood, it passes by merit and a normal citizen can still aspire to becoming an Astartes even if that&#039;s a long shot. The Emperor&#039;s whole deal was based around humanity, so he built something that could be a symbol to all humanity. He could have bred a new war species but he altered us because his dream of the Imperium was the dream of humanity. Symbolic difference, sure, but it matters. There&#039;s a reason space marines are venerated not feared.&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, bio-enhancements like the gene-seed are actually more controllable than a genetic enhancing procedure would be, since the resultant outcome is more predictable, more easily mass-produced, and it means that even if a Space Marine could have kids, they would in all likelihood not be different from ordinary humans, since their abilities aren&#039;t tied to them on a genetic level, though they would be far more likely to become space marines since some amount of genetic compatibility is required.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is also noteworthy that as a possibly unintended side effect of their geneseed, Space Marines are enormously well endowed. This is evidenced in the first book of the Horus Heresy series, whereby a Remembrancer described a naked Captain Loken as being &amp;quot;equine&amp;quot;. Of course out of all the chapters, only [[Space Wolves]] ever seem to take advantage of this factor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Lifespan Debate==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sons of Corax by MajesticChicken.jpg|450px|thumb|left|When the going gets tough, the tough get going.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The lifespan for Astartes is something of a tricky subject. While it’s made clear that Space Marines live many centuries longer than normal humans, exactly how long they’re &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to live has never really been elaborated on. It doesn’t help that there has never been a Space Marine shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age, and that different chapter bloodlines (and writers) each appear to handle aging differently. So there really isn’t any kind of baseline to work with here. Perhaps most central to the issue is the question of whether or not Astartes are biologically immortal. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the “for” side, both Dan Abnett and Graham McNeill claim that Astartes are indeed immortal, and that although they might physically age (grey hair, wrinkles, etc.) it is only skin deep and they are in just as good physical condition as when they first joined the Astartes, only dying when they are killed. Nick Kyme also appears to be a believer in the immortal point of view (though more in a sitting-stone-gathers-moss-and-lasts-forever kind of way), as in his Salamanders series, an [[wat|Astartes survivor from the Horus-friggin-Heresy was found in a crashed and buried Salamanders starship]]. His armor had melded into the metal of the ship and he could no longer move, but he was alive. He had apparently been sitting there watching over the empty, ancient suits of armor from his fallen brothers for ten thousand years. He was also borderline crazy from all the memories filling his head (thanks eidetic memory, but then if he had human memory he&#039;d have Alzheimers or something) and his vocal cords and muscles were desiccated, but the latter are implied to be due to atrophy from inactivity more than anything else so that doesn&#039;t count. The Night Lords series by Aaron Dembski-Bowden is another in the &amp;quot;for&amp;quot; catagory, at least in that the Astartes refer to humans as &amp;quot;mortals,&amp;quot; and Talos, at just 300 years old, is apparently considered young for a crusade-era, unwarped traitor space marine.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the “against” side, the Blood Angels are specifically noted for having exceptionally long, but limited lifespans, namely a 1000 years give or take, and Marines from other chapters don’t live nearly as long. This has been reaffirmed in the current Blood Angels Codex, and it should be noted that it was written by GW&#039;s biggest Space Marine fanboy. Yes, even Ward says Space Marines can die of old age. Even Abnett has flip-flopped a bit on it, with Brothers of the Snake (admittedly his first time writing Space Marines) portraying the apothecary Khiron as starting to slow down with his advanced age and not being quite as fit as he used to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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So yeah, Black Library has a tendency to be inconsistent with the established lore. Big surprise. But in this case the reason is twofold: firstly, some gamers would think less of the Space Marines if they could die of old age, and Games Workshop doesn&#039;t want that. Secondly, Games Workshop seems to agree that they would be awesome if they didn&#039;t die of old age, but they don&#039;t want to anger the part of the fanbase that would disapprove of Space Marines being biologically immortal, so they&#039;re deliberately vague about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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(For those arguing that if marines were already immortal, it would give the Chaos Space Marines less impetus to become daemon princes, there&#039;s a big difference between being biological immortal but still susceptible to physical limitations, injury and death, and being a godlike unkillable creature of the warp that doesn&#039;t obey the laws of physics anymore and can never truly be killed, only banished for a short time.) &lt;br /&gt;
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Biologically immortal or not, at the end of the day the only true measurement of an Astartes’ lifespan is how killy they are. If Space Marines can die of old age, they’re almost certainly going to die in battle before age ever starts to take its toll, and if it does, then they just die in battle as soon as old age starts to slow them down, so that doesn&#039;t really count. As a general estimate, though, 400-500 years seems to be a good average life expectancy for most Space Marines. Past that point, a Space Marine is usually considered among their chapter’s most venerable elders, and only the real badasses ever get this old.&lt;br /&gt;
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==GW Space Marine Chapters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:40k RPG.jpg|300px|right|thumb|We honestly can&#039;t tell whether this is a dude or a chick, so you&#039;ll just have to make a guess and face the consequences.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aurora Chapter]] - Institutionally lazily named. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astral Claws]] - Institutionally secessionist.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astral Knights]] - Institutionally [[The World Engine|crazy awesome, but totally dead]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alpha Legion]] - Institutionally closet loyalists&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Dragons]] - Institutionally taking their cue from Wolverine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Templars]] - Institutionally crusaders.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Angels]] - Institutionally [[Black Rage|unstable]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Ravens]] - Institutionally relic hunters.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Celebrants]] - Institutionally gradient.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Celestial Lions]] - Institutionally suffering losses from [[Ork Snipers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crimson Fists]] - Institutionally Spanish.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Angels]] - - Institutionally &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;mysterious&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Loyal.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Hands]] - - Institutionally... wait have these guys done anything other then face the Hrud and a couple of orks?&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Hunters]] - Institutionally grim of grim marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Death Spectres]] - Institutionally albino.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deathwatch]] - Institutionally, intentionally and professionally xenocidal. Employed by the [[Inquisition]], recruited from other Chapters.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Doom Eagles]] - Institutionally doomed.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Excoriators]] - Institutionally ugly.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Executioners]] - Institutionally [[lawful stupid|honorable]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Exorcists]] - Institutionally [[Heresy|possessed and exorcised]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flesh Tearers]] - Institutionally RIP AND TEAR.  &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flame Falcons]] - Institutionally ON FIRE. ALL OF THEM.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fire Angels]] - Institutionally religious BUT ALSO ON FIRE. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fire Lords]] - Institutionally [[Flamer|burny]], possibly more so than the Salamanders (see below).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Genesis Chapter]] - Institutionally [[Ultramarines]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grey Knights]] - Institutionally killing [[Daemon|Daemons]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guardians of the Covenant]] - Institutionally record-keeping catholic space monks.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hammers of Dorn]] - Institutionally trolling the Ultramarines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Howling Griffons]] - Institutionally Black Templars wannabes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Imperial Fists]] - Institutionally waiting tactically.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Invaders]] - Institutionally trading blows with Eldar.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Iron Hands]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|Scottish]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Iron Snakes]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|Texas Rangers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lamenters]] - Institutionally unlucky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Legion of the Damned]] - Institutionally undead.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marines Malevolent]] - Institutionally MASSIVE assholes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mantis Warriors]] - Institutionally misdirecting.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mentors]] - Institutionally academic. Has not been heard from [[Rogue Trader (Sourcebook)|for a long time]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Minotaurs]] - Institutionally mysteriously paranoid teamkilling assholes. They are suspected to be in league with the [[High Lords of Terra]] as an attempt to police the Adeptus Astartes. Cause that&#039;ll work.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mortifactors]] - Institutionally goth.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raptors]] - Institutionally [[Reasonable_Marines|reasonable]] and [[shooty]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raven Guard]] - Institutionally [[Troll|tricksy]] and speedy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rainbow Warriors]] - Institutionally not appearing in this game.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Scorpions]] - Institutionally pure.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Talons]] - Institutionally bloodthirsty.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Relictors]] - Institutionally radical.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Salamanders]] - Institutionally [[Flamer|burny]]. Also, surprisingly nice for all their... fiery nature. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sable Swords]] - Institutionally heirs to the [[Astral Knights]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scythes of the Emperor]] - Institutionally NOT DEAD YET.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silver Skulls]] - Institutionally [[Shaman|shamanistic]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sons of Medusa]] - Institutionally lime green.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soul Drinkers]] - Institutionally rebellious.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Sharks]] - Institutionally [[Shark|SHARKY]], BITCH!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Wolves|Space Corgis]] - Institutionally spess vikings with a wolf fetish&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Phantoms]] - Institutionally SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Storm Wardens]] - Institutionally Celtic.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ultramarines|Ultrasmurfs]] - Institutionally [[Codex_Astartes|orthodox]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[White Scars]] - Institutionally Mongolian.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valedictors]] - Institutionally gone, so forget it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Space Marine Chapter Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Angels of the Rock.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Tiny head syndrome is a common side effect of the augmentations]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marneus Calgar]] - Chapter Master of the [[Ultramarines]]. Received the rank by having the most plot armor.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Chapter Master of the [[Blood Angels]]. &#039;&#039;&#039;Beware!!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;. Dante is watching you! Received the rank for being so old and always wearing a mask so no one knows what his face looks like anymore. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Logan Grimnar]] - Great Wolf of the [[Space Wolves]]. Is the wolfiest of all the wolf lords without being a furry.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azrael]] - Supreme Grand Master of the [[Dark Angels]]. Best at VANQUISHING FOUL TRAITORS FROM OTHER LEGIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vorn Hagen]] - Chapter Master of the [[Imperial Fists]]. Appointed as Chapter Master &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;out of pity&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; because he was the second best candidate in line for the job, and the [[Darnath Lysander|TRUE HERO]] had turned it down so he could continue doing what he does best (namely make servants of Chaos cry with a generous appliance of [[Thunder Hammer]] to the face). &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jubal Khan]] - Chapter Master of the [[White Scars]]. Proved his speediness by outracing a bike mounted captain wearing only rollerskates.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tu&#039;Shan]] - Master of the Fire Drakes, [[derp|de-Facto]] Chapter Master of the [[Salamanders]]. Forged the burniest flamer.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kardan Stronos]] - Chapter Master of the [[Iron Hands]](sort of). Was actually democratically elected for diplomatic reasons, temporarily. It&#039;s complicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Corvin Severax - Former Chapter Master of the [[Raven Guard]], nicknamed &amp;quot;Master of Shadows&amp;quot;. Got the job by being the sneakiest of the sneaky marines (they were looking for him to officially grant him the rank until the last day). Unfortunately some [[Shadowsun|blue-skinned bitch]] had him killed in the Damocles Gulf (ironically by being even sneakier and trickier then him).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kayvaan Shrike]] - Formerly Captain of the Raven Guard&#039;s third company, and all-around badass that [[get shit done]] in his Primarch&#039;s time-honored way (i.e. sneak up to a motherfucker and shred him with [[Lightning Claws]] before vanishing again). Shrike was decided unanimously to be Severax&#039; successor when the latter suffered from an unfortunate severe overdose of Tau gunline; only adding to his [[awesome]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kaldor Draigo]] - Supreme Grand Master and of the [[Grey Knights]] and one of [[Matt Ward]]&#039;s [[Mary Sue|Special Snowflakes]]. Honored for being the single biggest mary sue in the whole damn setting by being able to survive in the Warp unprotected and uncorrupted.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Helbrecht]] - High Marshall of the [[Black Templars]]. Was voted High Marshall for being the angriest of the not angry marines. Has a [[tsundere]] relation with [[Imotekh the Stormlord]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pedro Kantor]] - Chapter Master of the [[Crimson Fists]]. Got the most votes (read: all three) during the election. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gabriel Seth]] - Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]]. Ripped and tore the most during the Chapter Master audition (also kicked one of the judges in the balls).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azariah Kyras]] - Former Chapter Master of the [[Blood Ravens]] who was killed for being a filthy, despicable, traitorous, no good follower of Chaos. Later replaced by [[Gabriel Angelos]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sarpedon - Chapter Master of the [[Soul Drinkers]] Also, a (bottom) half giant spider mutant. Got all his friends killed for trying to do the right thing. Rookie Grimdark mistake, kid.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Carab Culln]] - Lord High Commander of the [[Red Scorpions]]. Got promoted after the last one was killed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Artekus Bardane - Chapter Master of the [[Relictors]]. Collects and uses chaos artifacts better then anyone in the chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Asterion Moloc]] - Chapter Master of the [[Minotaurs]]. No clue how he got the job, our inquiries were met with death threats and top level cease and desist orders. Has a laser-shooting pimp cane.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lugft Huron]] - Chapter Master of the [[Astral Claws]]. Got the rank by being absolutely awesome, unfortunately he overdid it and caused the [[Badab War]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Lias Issodon - Chapter Master of the [[Raptors_(Chapter)|Raptors]]. The most reasonable of the not-reasonable marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tyberos the Red Wake]] - Chapter Master of the [[Space Sharks]], or at least assumed to be. He was the leader of the Carcharodons during the Badab War, but his exact rank was never confirmed. Still showed the best technique when it came to applying &#039;&#039;&#039;RIP AND TEAR&#039;&#039;&#039; to heretic asses, assisted by his [[awesome|lightning chainfists]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Omadon Tiresias - Chapter Master of the [[Star Phantoms]].  Blinded by warp storms during the evacuation of the Star Phantom home world, he forsook his own sight to save the relics of his chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
*Malakim Phoros - Chapter Master of the [[Lamenters]]. Not happy with his chapter being constantly shat upon and sided with Huron during the Badab War. Ohh, you poor man. Despite being utterly screwed and [[Eldrad|dicked with]] due to [[Tzeentch|unbelievably bad fortune]] AND struggling with crippling depression and cynicism, the guy refuses to give up faith in his fellow man. [[Grimdark|Naturally, it only makes things worse.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rivalries == &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Moloc.JPG|300px|right|thumb|Everyone hates the Minotaurs]]&lt;br /&gt;
While normally above mortal shortcomings, the greatest flaw of the Space Marines is their hubris. They are immensely proud warriors who do not take kindly to having their honor slighed. Some take mental note of this for a later date while others [[rip and tear|take the more direct approach]]. This has created some notable rivalries between the various Chapters, some of which date back to the Great Crusade.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Space Wolves and Dark Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Space Wolves and Dark Angels have a rather tumultuous and sometimes violent rivalry, but in a way their legions truly reflect the relationship between brothers. The rivalry itself stems from a confrontation between their primarchs that stemmed from the different cultures the primarchs had come up in. During a joint operation between the Wolves and the Dark Angels, the planet&#039;s ruler had insulted Russ personally, so Russ resolved to slay him personally. The Lion tried to cut Russ in on his deep strike plan, but Russ would have none of it: He didn&#039;t want to defeat the enemy, he wanted to utterly crush them. Frustrated with his brother&#039;s lack of cooperation, the Lion launched his strike without the wolves help, and Russ fought his way into the planetary ruler&#039;s palace just in time to watch the Lion behead him. Furious, Russ threw down his weapons and punched the Lion, starting a lengthy fist fight that only ended when Russ started laughing upon realizing how pointless the fight was and how stupid he&#039;d been. Thinking that Russ was laughing at him, the Lion punched Russ unconscious. When Russ awoke he sought out the Lion to make amends, but he had already departed with his fleet. Though the two would work together again, the Lion was rather unforgiving (oh the irony) towards Russ. To Russ the Lion seemed the antagonist. After all, in the halls of Fenris a brawl between angry brothers was hardly unusual. When the fight ended you&#039;d toast each other and drink away the bruises and move on. To the Lion Russ seemed at fault. After all, in the knightly orders of Caliban striking one&#039;s brothers was not done: petty infighting could not be tolerated when monsters slavered at the gate. As is so often the case between brothers, both were at fault and neither would back down. To this day the Space Wolves and Dark Angels (and their successor chapters) will fight (usually) non-lethal honor duels to &amp;quot;settle the score,&amp;quot; though &amp;quot;the score&amp;quot; has never really been agreed on. Occasionally tensions between the two chapters will boil over into open warfare which is often caused by &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Fallen Angels&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; TRAITORS UNASSOCIATED WITH THE DARK ANGELS hiding amidst the Space Wolves&#039; protectorate worlds, using the tensions to their advantage. Finally it&#039;s worth noting that even though the two (former) legions often fight, they never show that rivalry to the wider imperium, and they&#039;ll set aside their rivalry whenever they need to [[get shit done]] together.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Word Bearers&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Ultramarines are pissed off at the Word Bearers for a great many things: 1) They turned traitor 2) They used millions of cultists as meat shields during the [[Battle of Calth]], which the Ultramarines saw as dishonorable and disgusting 3) They almost destroyed Calth. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Alpha Legion&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Alpha Legion led the Ultramarines halfway across the galaxy on a fool&#039;s errand that ultimately ensured they were nowhere near the Imperial Palace during the Horus Heresy. Adding insult to injury, they inflicted enormous casualties on the Ultramarines, and though they succeeded in killing Alpharius (or did they?), the Alpha Legion&#039;s command structure was so decentralized that it did little to affect them.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Black Templars (also the Imperial Fists, the Crimson Fists, the Space Wolves, and the Salamanders)&#039;&#039;&#039; - When Roboute Guilliman tried to force the Codex Astartes on the Space Marine legions after the Horus Heresy, some legions - most notably the Imperial Fists - outright refused, not wanting their legions to be broken down into smaller chapters. Rogal Dorn called Guilliman a coward, while Guilliman called Dorn a rebel. The Space Wolves and the Salamanders ended up backing Dorn, while the Raven Guard and the White Scars supported Guilliman. The rivalry became so intense that the Imperial Navy even fired on the Imperial Fist strike cruiser &#039;&#039;Terrible Angel&#039;&#039;, and it seemed that the Space Marines would war against one another once again. Finally, Rogal Dorn yielded to prevent another war and broke his legion into the Black Templars and the Crimson Fists. As the Ultramarines still were wary of the loyalties of the Imperial Fists and their successors, Sigismund - the first Emperor&#039;s Champion and the man that Dorn had appointed to be the Black Templars Chapter Master - declared a 10,000 year crusade in the Emperor&#039;s name to prove their loyalty. Even though tensions have since cooled between the Ultramarines and the other chapters, the Ultramarines are still suspicious about (read: sticking their nose into the business of) the Black Templars as they still refuse to conform to the Codex Astartes, and won&#039;t tell the Ultramarines just how huge their chapter is. In short, Sigismund and Leman Russ told Guilliman where he can shove his Codex Astartes, and he&#039;s all anal pained about it. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Uriel Ventris]] and Pasanius Lysane, of the Ultramarines, were sworn to a Death Oath by their Chapter Master Marneus Calgar as punishment for violating the Codex Astartes (specifically, because they had abandoned the rest of their company to assist a Deathwatch Kill-team during the Battle of Tarsus Ultra). Their mission: find and destroy the [[Daemonculaba]]. The quest took the Ultramarines pair to the nightmarish [[Daemon World]] of [[Medrengard]], within the [[Eye of Terror]] itself. Medrengard was the homeworld of the Iron Warriors Traitor Legion. It was also the location of [[Honsou]], the evil Iron Warriors Warsmith who oversaw the Daemonculaba project from within his fortress, Khalan-Ghol. The Ultramarines were successful in destroying the Daemonculaba, and were also able to bring ruination to Khalan-Ghol and Honsou&#039;s forces. Uriel Ventris also managed to shoot Honsou in the head. Unfortunately, the Warsmith survived the headshot. Upon realizing the extent of the damage Uriel had caused, Honsou swore revenge and also the utter annihilation of [[Ultramar]]. Honsou was aware that before he ever dealt with Uriel Ventris, the Ultramarines spent years and countless resources and lives to repel a [[Tyranid]] incursion at Tarsis Ultra. Honsou thus unleashed a plan which destroyed every living thing on Tarsis Ultra, and reduced the planet itself to a lifeless rock. Destroying the planet provided no strategic gain to the Iron Warriors; Honsou carried out his horrific genocide simply to spite Uriel Ventris and the Ultramarines. Following this, the Iron Warriors use an army won from the [[Red Corsairs]] to free the [[Daemon Prince]] [[M&#039;kar]], and invade [[Ultramar]]. Though the &amp;quot;Bloodborn&amp;quot; army is beaten back, the Ultramarines lost over one third of their battle-brothers in the attempt, leaving them open to attack for the first time since the First Tyrannic War and unable to properly participate in the Imperial counter-offensive for the [[13th Black Crusade]]. The Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors have thus become bitter enemies-- with Uriel Ventris and Honsou in particular becoming sworn foes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Hammers of Dorn&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Hammers adhere rigidly to the Codex Astartes, to the point where they point out any deviations from the codex by the Ultramarines. According to the Hammers of Dorn, Guilliman may have had the genius to pen the codex, but the sons of Dorn are the only ones that can bring out its full potential.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Minotaurs&#039;&#039;&#039; - While the Minotaurs are hated by everyone the Ultramarines have a special grudge against them, due to the Euxine Incident during the Macharian Heresy. During the heresy the loyalist Doom Warriors and Inceptors chapters were busy [[skub|fighting each other over a matter of honor]], and refused to stop and aid Imperial forces. The Minotaurs were sent to quell the dispute, which they did in their [[rip and tear|usual manner]]. They attacked both sides in force, nearly destroying them both. The Doom Warriors were badly beaten and forced into a barely-organized retreat almost immediately. The Interceptors weren&#039;t so lucky. With no way to withdraw they suffered the full onslaught of the Minotaurs and finally surrendered with less then 100 marines left. The honored 2nd founding chapter was subsequently [[Blood Ravens|robbed of most of their chapter relics, the Minotaurs stealing them right off their dead bodies]], including their flagship, a relic of the Great Crusade. This brought them a great deal of hatred from the Ultramarines and their successors, who have since forbidden the Minotaurs from entering Ultramar and seek vengeance whenever the opportunity arises.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the World Eaters&#039;&#039;&#039; - Both constantly compete for superiority in melee combat and also the angriest motherfucking berserker full of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard and White Scars&#039;&#039;&#039; - Supposedly dates back to a huge fucking argument between [[Corax]] and [[Jaghatai Khan]], where the two had a massive spat over the proper use of rapid-reaction forces. Corax insisted they be used as part of infiltration and deep-strike units, and Jaghatai insisted they were to be on the front lines - the two never really saw eye-to-eye, Corax seeing Jaghatai as devastatingly effective, but with the tactical sense of a drunken Space Wolf, and Jaghatai seeing Corax as too cautious and tactical for proper man-fighting. The two would eventually make up after the Horus Heresy, and both the Raven Guard and White Scars would be forced to ally on several occasions - most notably during the infamous Hunt for Voldorius - but an intense rivalry over whose fast-attack doctrine is better persists to this day, and the two factions are still kind of assholes to one another as a result. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the Black Legion&#039;&#039;&#039; - Considering that Horus killed their Primarch (who, before the Heresy, were closer than any other Primarchs) which resulted in them suffering from the Black Rage which eventually causes every descendant of Sanguinius to have visions of being killed by Horus, the Blood Angels probably despise the Black Legion to the point of pure obsession. Also as a rule, the Blood Angels have a special hatred for the [[Abaddon|owner]] of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Talon of Horus&#039;&#039;&#039;, since it killed their father.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and the Grey Knights&#039;&#039;&#039; - Angron was banished back to the Warp by Grey Knights during the first battle of Armageddon, which resulted in the World Eaters&#039; defeat. Angron has since been resurfacing, and has sworn revenge.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard and the Black Legion (also the Word Bearers, Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Alpha Legion)&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Raven Guard were the second hardest hit by the Drop Site Massacre of Istvaan V &#039;&#039;(the Salamanders got hit worse, but there weren&#039;t really enough survivors to hold a grudge)&#039;&#039;. Though all of the traitor legions except the Thousand Sons were involved, the Raven Guard holds a special hatred for the former Luna Wolves and Horus, a hatred which has transferred over to [[Abaddon]] and the Black Legion. That said, the Raven Guard go absolutely murderous on any of the Legions who turned on them at Istvaan V.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grey Knights and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - Officially, there really isn&#039;t a rivalry at all. Because officially the Grey Knights don&#039;t exist. Unofficially, during the First War for Armageddon, Grey Knights were ordered to fire on dozens of civilian ships because there was a fraction of a shadow of smidgen of a chance that they were tainted by Chaos. The Space Wolves decided this was pretty dickish, and protected the civilians. Naturally, the Inquisition made it worse. Then old [[Logan Grimnar|Loggy]] chops a Grey Knight Grand Master&#039;s head off and kills four Justicars, the ugly downward spiral of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;WTF!?&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s started there. Eventually, an understanding was reached where the remaining civvies weren&#039;t murdered but just mindwiped a bit and Inquisitorial ships would never again come to Fenris or the wolves would tear them a new asshole.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Imperial Fists and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Imagine their rivalry akin to World War I. The Imperial Fists are the Brits who love making defenses, while the Iron Warriors are the Germans who also love making defenses but also love destroying stuff. Also, Perturabo hated Rogal Dorn for being Daddy&#039;s golden boy and his constant boasting of the fortifications of the Imperial Palace. Perturabo eventually bested Dorn and the Imperial Fists by making a huge space fortress that Dorn then tried to attack in an effort to bring Perturabo to justice. Inside the fortress was nothing but inwardly-faced gunlines, meaning the entire thing was a trap and wound up cutting down enormous numbers of the Imperial Fists before they could retreat. The Imperial Fists were too fierce for the Iron Warriors to destroy without making the ultimate sacrifice however, proving that they get shit done. Perturabo, naturally, found his plan fucking hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Space Wolves despised the Red Sorcerers for their practice of magic, and didn&#039;t question a goddamned thing after Horus had intentionally given the Wolves incorrect orders (to destroy the Thousand Sons, as opposed to talking Magnus down). Suffice to say, the Space Wolves caused colossal damage to the Thousand Sons, and in the process, destroyed one of the largest repositories of knowledge in the entire fucking Imperium, including a huge amount of information that would have helped the Imperium better fight off its enemies. Horus&#039; dick move forced the Thousand Sons to eventually turn to Tzeentch just to survive. Though the Wolves&#039; offense devastated the Sons, the Legion would nonetheless resurface to attack the Space Wolves: they led a siege on their homeworld and succeeded in causing considerable damage before being driven off. During this offensive, they managed to destroy a series of laboratories, including one that held an entire generation worth of the Space Wolves&#039; Gene-Seed (as well as the cure for the Wulfen curse), and Magnus himself was responsible for killing the Space Wolves&#039; chapter-master.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;White Scars and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - Thousand Sons were the biggest bros of the Scars during the Great Crusade, their primarchs were total bros too, so when they figured out that Wolves destroyed Prospero, killed most of the (still totally loyal) Thousand Sons, forced surviving ones into going heretic, and don&#039;t even feel any guilt or remorse about it, none were surprised Scars kept a huge grudge against the Space Yiffs. Also during the crusade, the Scars hated being compared to the Wolves because of the apparent link to barbarism. The Wolves themselves also have a thing or two to say about the multiple times Scars hadn&#039;t come to help when they could, starting from when they left Wolves alone against entire Alpha Legion fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iron Hands and the Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - Prior to the Heresy, Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus were &#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039; close friends. Their bond ran so deep that even as Fulgrim declared his intentions of joining the forces of Chaos to Ferrus, asking him to join him in overthrowing the Emperor, Ferrus couldn&#039;t open fire on his brother&#039;s ship. Naturally, this had some rather nasty effects in the long term, not least of which was Fulgrim decapitating the Gorgon with his own sword. The Iron Hands did not take kindly to this. Also, getting all repressed and logical over the next 10,000 years caused Slaanesh to take breaking them as a challenge.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and The Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - In addition to following rival deities, the Emperor&#039;s Children lost huge numbers of troops to the World Eaters at Skalthrax. Really, all you need to know is that [[Kharn]] and a Flamer were involved, and that before this incident, the World Eaters were a much more coordinated force.&lt;br /&gt;
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**&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and World Eaters&#039;&#039;&#039; - This event caused the World Eaters to break up into warbands&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Emperor&#039;s Children and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Given that Fulgrim tried to sacrifice Peturabo&#039;s soul to Slaanesh to fuel his ascension to Daemon Prince...&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Angels and  FOUL TRAITORS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Do &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; get between them and a FOUL TRAITOR TO THE IMPERIUM WHO CERTAINLY HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE SONS OF THE LION. It can only end in tears.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Thousand Sons and World Eaters:&#039;&#039;&#039; Khorne hates sorcery, and so the World Eaters hate the Sons. Sadly for the World Eaters, they&#039;re usually well out of the Sons&#039; league; the Thousand Sons tend to pick conflicts selectively, which means the followers of Khorne have rarely even had the chance to fight them. Also, it doesn&#039;t do much to appease Khorne&#039;s bloodlust, since there is no blood or skulls to offer, just dust.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Ravens and EVERYONE:&#039;&#039;&#039; Apart from Captain Titus of the Ultramarines, almost every Marine Chapter mentioned in having contact with the Blood Ravens have not been on good terms. Most likely due to their rampant kleptomania. This animosity extends beyond the Space Marines, and into the rest of the Imperium as well; Imperial Guard forces hate them for exterminating the Kronus Liberators, and the Inquisition doesn&#039;t like them for their secrecy.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Fabius Bile]] stole the blood of Sanguinius from the Blood Angels&#039; Fortress-Monastery as part of a plot to make a clone of the God-Emperor. As the neophyte initiation process for the Blood Angels requires the consumption of some of the aforementioned blood, the Blood Angels and all their Successor Chapters have sworn to find and kill Bile at all costs. (For a while, it looked like they succeeded- that is, until they found out that Bile had begun cloning &#039;&#039;himself&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iron Hands and Raven Guard and Salamanders&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Iron Hands are still pissy about the whole [[Drop Site Massacre|Isstvan V]] thing. They believe that had the Salamanders and Raven Guard followed their Primarch Ferrus Manus they would have won at the dropsite massacre. Completely overlooking the fact that they were surprised, surrounded, outgunned and outnumbered nearly 3 to 1. They don&#039;t like the Raven Guard in particular for their use of stealth and subterfuge, and also for having a pretty much identical color scheme. The Salamanders aren&#039;t too keen about the Iron Hands belief of &amp;quot;purging the weak&amp;quot; and usual disregard for civilian casualties and sometimes their own Marines. The Raven Guard and Salamanders never pulled any of this bullshit with each other, though, and remain close allies, if for nothing other than the Hands constantly being dicks to both of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Marines Malevolent and Salamanders&#039;&#039;&#039; - What happens when the galaxy&#039;s greatest assholes meet the galaxy&#039;s greatest humanitarian marines? Hilarity that&#039;s what. The hate fueled rivalry that was first widely known came during the Third War for Armageddon where a squad of Marines Malevolent used their [[Whirlwind|Whirlwinds]] to fire upon an Ork-occupied camp, when they &#039;&#039;knew&#039;&#039; that the camp contained hundreds of Imperial civilian hostages, mostly women and children. Oh and guess what their response was, something to do with &amp;quot;Meh, we only serve the Emprah only&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;We didn&#039;t know there were &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; many civilians&amp;quot;. As you can imagine, this both horrified and royally pissed off the Salamanders, and when these two Chapters met again after the war, Chapter Master Tu&#039;Shan, to put it simply, bitch-slapped the Captain of the Marines Malevolent in front of &#039;&#039;everybody in the city,&#039;&#039; prompting much sniggering and cheering among both Guardsmen and civilians alike. Because of such reaction to complete dickwards, the Salamanders were considered as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Heroes of Armageddon&#039;&#039;&#039; by popular vote.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bros To the End==&lt;br /&gt;
As there are several chapters and legions who despise one another, there&#039;s a few that get along damned well.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard, Salamanders, and Iron Hands&#039;&#039;&#039; - True since the great crusade, where these three found they worked extremely well in-concert - The Raven Guard acting as the advance and cutting off critical locations and eliminating command units, the Salamanders in providing the heavy punch to follow this up, and the Iron Hands providing the tide of firepower to support both. That being said, the Iron Hands&#039; relationship with the Raven Guard and the Salamanders has deteriorated since the Horus Heresy; they believe that had their allies not retreated from the Drop Site Massacre, Ferrus Manus would not have been killed and Horus would have been defeated before he could pose a threat to the Imperium. (It doesn&#039;t take a genius to realize that this would have just led to the complete annihilation of their Legions in practice.) It&#039;s not really clear if the Hands still fight alongside their former best bros in the 41st millennium, but given the whole &amp;quot;feeding a Raven Guard company to psyker orks for lulz&amp;quot; thing, it doesn&#039;t seem likely.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Salamanders and Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; - Though the Salamanders are friendly with most Chapters anyway, they&#039;re particularly tight with the Blood Angels. Both Chapters are some of the few in the Imperium that actually go out of their way for civilians and put them before pride and glory in battle. This became particularly evident during the [[Armageddon|Second War of Armageddon]], when both fought side-by-side against the [[Orks]] and when [[Dante]] publicly honored [[Tu&#039;Shan]] for his bravery during the war and bitch-slapping the Marines Malevolent Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Imperial Fists and Imperial Fists successors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Doctrinal differences and martial angst aside, the sons of Dorn have always been on good terms with each other. Whenever a crisis threatens Terra that is too great for a single chapter, the Imperial Fists and their successors unite to put an end to that threat, such as [[The War of The Beast]], and the [[Age of Apostasy|Second Siege of Terra]] to put [[Goge Vandire]] in his place. Every century, they also come together for an epic swordfighting tournament called the [[Feast of Blades]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and Imperial Fists&#039;&#039;&#039; - Both fought and died in the defense of the Imperial Palace. Broforce = very yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and Imperial Fists&#039;&#039;&#039; - Similar to the Space Wolves and Dark Angels above, beef about the codex aside, the two chapters have always been on very good terms. (I guess the above segment regarding the ultramarines firing on the imperial fists ship is just swept under the rug)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Angels and Dark Angel successors&#039;&#039;&#039; - THE DARK ANGELS HAVE NO SUCH RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR SUCCESSOR CHAPTERS. RUMORS THAT DARK ANGEL SUCCESSORS ARE STILL UNDER DIRECT COMMAND FROM THEIR PARENT CHAPTER, EFFECTIVELY STILL MAKING THEM FUNCTION AS A LEGION, ARE OBVIOUSLY LIES AND SLANDER FABRICATED BY THE FOUL HERETICS OF CHAOS, AS SUCH AN ACT WOULD BREAK THE GUIDELINES OF THE CODEX ASTARTES, WHICH LOYAL CHAPTERS WOULD NOT DO.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Salamanders and Word Bearers {pre-heresy.}&#039;&#039;&#039; - Something about all the sacrifices, and all the red paint.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Official /tg/ Space Marine Chapters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cloten.jpg|300px|right|thumb|THE RAPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES!!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
One of /tg/&#039;s favorite pastimes is creating new and exciting chapters of the Adeptus Astartes based on silly concepts. [[/tg/|/tg/&#039;s]] [[/tg/&#039;s homebrews|homebrew]] chapters include:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Adeptus Orthodontus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angry Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bald Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bro Marines|Alpha Sigma Sigma]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Butthurt Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Wonderful Misadventures of: Inquisitor Fob and the Classy Marines|Classy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Censor Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Comedy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Disco Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dorf Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drunk Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sigmar Marines|Emperor&#039;s Hammers]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Paragons]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galactic Partridges]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Golden Aquilas]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lazy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Manly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metal Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mexicarines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mole Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obstinate Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pathetic Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pretty Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reasonable Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Skeletons]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scary Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sleepy Marines|Dream Warriors]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Shanks]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elderly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As you can see, /tg/ has a problem with creativity.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Founding of /tg/ Space Marine Chapters===&lt;br /&gt;
After the release of Deathwatch: Rites of Battle, /tg/ quickly flung itself at the chapter creation rules and began to produce a second wave of /tg/ chapters. Noticeably more serious business than the previous chapters, these Spess Mahreens range from the widely popular Emperor&#039;s Nightmare, to the derpy Flesh Helms.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Abyssal Jaws]] - Institutionally sharky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Locks]] - Institutionally corsair.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Jaguars]] - Institutionally Aztec.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brotherhood of the Gauntlet]] - Institutionally Arabic Ghazi.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brotherhood of the Megalith]] - Institutionally rocky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Conservators]] - Institutionally poor and under-equipped. It&#039;s what happens when you piss of the Mechanicus.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deep Ones (Tiji Sector)|Deep Ones]] - Institutionally aquatic and environmentally resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Desert Fangs]] - Institutionally [[Angry Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dune Walkers]] - Institutionally Arabic Nomads.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Bears]] - Institutionally lost.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Nightmare]] - Institutionally [[Sleepy Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eyes of Mordred]] - Institutionally [[Scary Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flesh Helms]] - Institutionally [[Imperial Guard]] of the Adeptus Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guardians Exemplar]] - Institutionally equal to the [[Marines Malevolent]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ice Serpents]] - Institutionally [[Baneblade|mechanized]] for war.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ice Wraiths]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|cyborg-ice-vampire-yeti-riders]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knights Inductor]] - Institutionally [[Reasonable Marines]] taken seriously. Also [[Mary Sues|MARY SUES]], don&#039;t mention them on /tg/. You&#039;ll just [[troll|cause a shitstorm]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knights Repentant]] - Institutionally UTTERLY LOYAL and true pre-heresy [[Word Bearers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lumbermarines]] - Institutionally lumberjacks.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rising Sons]] - Institutionally BANZAI!!!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Screaming Eagles]] - Institutionally &#039;MURICAN!!! FUCK YEAH!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Talons of Corvus]] - Institutionally a more heroic [[Command and Conquer|Nod]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Sovereign&#039;s Appraisal]] - Institutionally loyal and sympathetic despite mutations, being declared renegade, [[Slaanesh]] trying to seduce them and the [[Ultramarines]] and their successors trying to terminate them.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[War Brothers]] - Institutionally not giving a damn about what the [[Dark Angels]] want from them.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Adeptus Estates]] - Institutionally home building.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mourning Sons]] - Institutionally shedding [[Fist of the North Star|Manly Tears]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Krakens]] - Institutionally Viking, yet not [[Space Wolves|THAT]] Viking. Plus one of the biggest of shits that /tg/ has done right. AND HOW!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Knights]] - Institutionally dour.&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The second wave WOULD show improvements to creativity... If they didn&#039;t use a RPG system as a crutch, among other issues.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beakie]] - When the Spehss mahrens were awesome looking.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaplain]] - The spiritual leaders of the space marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Female Space Marines]]- Records officially decommissioned and terminated by the [[Inquisition]] on the grounds of [[Heresy]], there is nothing here trust us. E-Commissars will blam you from your monitor when attempting to access said heretical records.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine]]- The official game of [[Pauldrons]] (despite the fact that the pauldrons in this game are smaller than they should be)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Space Marines|Tactics/Space Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guidelines of the Space Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite the considerable amount of hate at the space marines nowadays, [[The World Engine|they can still be awesome.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stormcast Eternals]] (AKA, [[Ground Marines]]), their [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]] equivalent.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Terminator]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Apothecary]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Techmarine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Librarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scout]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Expanded Minor Chapters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine Lexicanum on Space Marines]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://wackycamper.deviantart.com/art/Space-Marine-Commandments-88741651 The Commandments of the Space Marine]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13nM17TV_sU/ Rap song dedicated to the mighty-ass space marines.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzWrDSNN4Y/ Another rap dedicated to the mighty-ass space marines.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzPuK1vib_c Emperor&#039;s quote about the Space Marines in a remix done from If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device glory.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shRHZLheEJI What is to be a space marine, in thrash metal version!]&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Troll Emperor.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:New Marine.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Correction.JPG|Drill Abbots &#039;&#039;&#039;hate&#039;&#039;&#039; him!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Stuffy.jpg|Build a Marine Workshop&lt;br /&gt;
File:Pauldronius.png|[[Pauldron]]ius&lt;br /&gt;
File:Brother Sergeant Aznable.jpg|&#039;&#039;&#039;EEECK!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
image:steelrain.jpg|Steel Rain in action!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Reasonablemarine.png|Don&#039;t fuck with [[Reasonable Marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
Image:LEGO_SpaceMarines_by_Jerac.jpg|Brick by brick we shall conquer.&lt;br /&gt;
File:1285382081001.jpg|Apparently, marines &#039;&#039;&#039;DO&#039;&#039;&#039; in fact have tiny heads.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sperm Marine.jpg|I&#039;m in ur w0mb, fertulizan yo eggz&lt;br /&gt;
File:Amuricuh.jpg|What historians didn&#039;t want you to believe&lt;br /&gt;
File:Yes they can.jpg|[[Skub|A matter of some contention.]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:False.jpg|Taking a page from their fallen brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Primarchs_as_teen_girls.png|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF55FF;&amp;quot; color=&amp;quot;pink&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Rule 63]] Primarchs are the most popular girls at [[HS40K]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Gearing up.jpg|A rare glimpse at a Space Marine without his awesome pauldrons on&lt;br /&gt;
File:1294948918986.jpg|Salamander Space Marines training starts at a reasonably young age&lt;br /&gt;
File:Armour of Bulk.png|Space Marines and ridiculous suits of armour go hand in hand.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BruceAstartes.jpg|Brother Campbell brings a world into Imperial compliance.&lt;br /&gt;
File:SpessM.jpg|Indrick Boreale nearly turned Space Marines into the laughing stock of the entire franchise.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angels of Derp.jpg|Space Marines as depicted during the dark ages of GW art (aka 2nd Edition)&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1228559892410.jpg|The scary thing is that this isn&#039;t fan art, seriously, this was an official GW product.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Warhammer 40k space marines we&#039;ll find your mom mother storytellers storytime missing child lost little girl.jpg|Now gather around children as I recount to you the exploits of the Emperor&#039;s chosen...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1207335921499.jpg|The Space Wizards of Warpwarts have mastered the art of profecting the power of the warp through small wooden sticks. How they refrain from breaking them is a mystery.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Horny Marine.gif|&#039;&#039;&#039;Hump the heretic, penetrate the mutant, cum in the alien&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Goodness [[Emperor&#039;s Children|me]]!&#039;&#039;&#039; I didn&#039;t know you loyalists had [[FATAL|it]] in you.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Silver Skull.jpg|300px|right|thumb|WE ARE THE EMPRAH&#039;S FUREH!Also, [[Beakie]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;For the vidya gaem, please see: [[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall [[Finecast|mould]] them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great [[Pauldrons|armour]] shall I clad them and with the [[Bolter|mightiest guns]] will they be armed. They will be untouched by [[Nurgle|plague]] or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have [[Deep Strike|tactics]], [[Steel Rain|strategies]] and [[Dreadnought|mac]][[Centurion Squad|hin]][[METAL BOXES|es]] so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against [[Chaos|the Terror]]. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my [[Robert Heinlein|Space Marines]] and they shall know no fear.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;-The [[God-Emperor of Mankind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Space Marines&#039;&#039;&#039;, also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Indrick Boreale|SPESS MEHREENS]]&#039;&#039;&#039; or &amp;quot;Marinelets&amp;quot; now that the [[Primaris Marines|Chadmarines]] are here and canonically named the Adeptus Astartes (Astarte is the Greek name for the Mesopotamian goddess of war, Ishtar. [[Derp|Ironic given that the Astartes is an all-male organization]]) are an army in the [[Warhammer 40,000]] universe. They are bio-enhanced super soldiers clad in [[Power Armour]], and are generally regarded as the toughest warriors to ever serve the [[Emprah|Emperor]] (except for the Adeptus Custodes and Imperial Assassins). The average Space Marine is around eight feet tall. They used to be seven feet in the old fluff, but [[Dan Abnett]] and the rest of Games Workshop have a hard-on for gigantism (though they have addressed the problems real-life gigantism can cause by throwing in more bio-engineering) so they jacked them up a foot, though RPGs from Fantasy Flight Games and games by THQ scaled them back to the more reasonable seven feet. Although do note that the height of Marines can vary greatly; some can even reach &#039;&#039;ten&#039;&#039; feet, like [[Asterion Moloc]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Internally, they have bones that can repel anything short of a boltgun round and can breathe underwater even without their helmets on because they have a third lung. They can also breathe all but the most potent of toxic fumes with little to no damage to their respiratory system, have two hearts, and live for hundreds of years (they may be functionally immortal, but they usually die in battle after a few centuries, so nobody can be sure). They are vastly more powerful in their [[fluff|official descriptions]] than they actually are in the &#039;&#039;Warhammer 40,000&#039;&#039; tabletop game (although the Marines statted in [[Dark Heresy]] or [[Rogue Trader (RPG)]] are walking rapemachines, and the [[player character]] Marines in [[Deathwatch]] are hard as nails). Much like the [[Chaos Space Marines]] are the 40k successors of the [[Warriors of Chaos]], Space Marines are the 40k successors of Warrior Priests, right down to their BALD. Portrayals range from hardcore but plausible super-soldiers to shameless [[Mary Sue]]s who could fight off Batman with one hand and the Joker with the other. Although occasionally, they serve to make other galactic forces seem superior. &#039;&#039;More like the Ineptes Astartes.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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They account for approximately 35% of the playable armies (counting chaos space marines) in 40k, over 21.4% (yeah, I thought that was a pretty conservative estimate too) of played armies among the 40k fandom (factoring in that people can collect and play more than one 40k army), and as of October 2010, receive about 50% or more of new releases. While there are many, &#039;&#039;many&#039;&#039; chapters that you can choose from, the actual armies basically boil down to six main choices: [[Dark Angels]], [[Blood Angels]], [[Space Wolves]], [[Grey Knights]], [[Legion of the Damned]] (barely), [[Deathwatch]], and everybody else. Everyone who&#039;s a successor of the first two choices follows their codex and generally share their units, while the &amp;quot;everybody else&amp;quot; just follows the generic Space Marine codex. Don&#039;t let the promotional art fool you, though; the Space Marine army isn&#039;t exclusively Ultramarines. It used to be that you also had individual codices the [[Black Templars]], but they got folded into the generic Space Marine army. At least they still get special chapter-specific units, which is more than can be said for the likes of the [[Salamanders]] or other important yet still-neglected chapters. But nooo, the Ultramarines need every type of special character...&lt;br /&gt;
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Contrary to that, fluff-wise Space Marines are amongst the smallest factions in the game. With all Chaos and Loyalist Marines combined they number below two millions in a galaxy where Imperium alone have tens of millions of honest to good inhabited worlds (not some dipshit colonies with a population of only few millions). In fact any single capital-class space ship have a population higher than the entirety of Marines in the Galaxy. Furthermore, marine armies are extremely fractured, very rarely deployed at above a few companies per war zone. GW never cared to explain how forces so small could have such a huge impact on the battlefields, when Orks, Guard and Tyranids could field their troops in millions, and Chaos can convert entire populations of planets (which is often tens of billions). Regardless, everything that is something in the setting has a tendency to at least have a bit Space Marines in it, if they aren&#039;t flat-out the protagonists. Expect enormous campaigns to revolve around a few companies, regardless of the involved numbers of Guardsmen and enemy xenos and chaotic characters, and the Marines to be the key to victory in any given war.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the many kinds of 40k fans, the Space Marine fanboy might be the most obnoxious &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; common one. They closely resemble fans of a politically radical movements; having little to no ability to see their own faction&#039;s obvious and glaring faults, while demonstratively arguing that all other factions are below them. The Space Marine fan fervently believes that any Marine-centered Bolter Porn presents the truth about the setting, which will lead to many a SM Fan proclaiming that they know &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; how all other factions are weaker in relation to Marines, regardless of what the actual fans of those factions and accepted lore actually says. Space Marine fans are often fans who have been reading the books or playing Dawn of War before getting into the wider setting, and as such get their views in a bit of a twist. Fortunately, many Space Marine fans end up migrating to another faction, becoming bored with the Marines and getting into a faction [[Orks|with some]] [[Imperial Guard|meat in]] [[Dark Eldar|it]], or, in search of further elitist kicks, get&#039;s [[Eldar|into something]] [[Tau|even worse]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] [[Meme|has a hard-on for Space Marines]]. [[Slaanesh|Between the writers favoritism and the &amp;quot;Spots the Space Marine&amp;quot; fiasco, it&#039;s gotten to the point where they should seek professional help]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The name Adeptus Astartes is usually portrayed as meaning Star Adepts. However [[Just As Planned|Astarte is actually Greek]] for [[Not As Planned|Ishtar, the Mesopotamian goddess of fertility, love, war, sex and sexuality.]] The Emprah [[HERESY|may have been horny and/or romantically interested]] [[Rule 63|in the idea of a badass God-Empress]] and [[What|named his sons to symbolically show this]] using a language that only he and [[Ollanius Pius]] [[Derp|are the speakers of]] besides dead people and three of [[Khorne|the]] [[Nurgle|Ruinous]] [[Tzeentch|Powers]] (unlikely given the Emperor was anti-theistic and anti-religious), or this is just the Emperor keeping himself sane by engaging in humor he knows only one loyal person will get, which does not include his last [[Malcador the Sigillite|two]] [[Companion|friends]]. [[Grimdark|No wonder the Emprah doesn&#039;t smile much.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;THIS JUST IN: THE SPACE MARINES JUST GOT AN UPGRADE! See [[Primaris Marines]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Prayer before battle.jpg|250px|left|thumb|Marine with half his face missing, skulls in the wall, bolter laying ready and servitors with hoods swinging censers. Ladies and gents, [[Warhammer 40k]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the end of the [[Age of Strife]], the Emperor of Mankind(over achieving at it&#039;s finest) wanted to reunite [[humanity]] in a [[Great Crusade]] across the galaxy, and he realized that in order to do this he would need one epic-ass army and equally epic generals to lead it. He created the [[Primarchs]], his sons, to be his generals, and let me tell you, these guys were some of the most insanely powerful badasses in all the lore of 40k, and that is saying something. (There is a story in which [[Sanguinius|one of them]] snaps a fucking [[Bloodthirster]]&#039;s spine over his knee.) From their DNA, he created the [[First Founding|Legiones Astartes, the first Space Marines]]. Their first task was to locate their Primarchs, because the [[Chaos Gods|Gods]] of [[Chaos]] had scattered them across the galaxy in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts at human reunification( they were basically just butt-hurt that they didn&#039;t have some baddass buttfucking sons). All of the Primarchs were eventually recovered and reunited with their respective legions, but then, at the height of the Space Marines&#039; power, disaster struck. [[Horus]], the Emperor&#039;s most trusted Primarch, fell to Chaos and turned traitor along with his legion, the [[Luna Wolves]], and several others followed suit. After much [[Grimdark|sorrow, pain, and civil warring]], the Emperor killed Horus personally(Daddy issues at their finest yet again), but was mortally wounded in the process, which is why he is now a zombie being kept alive by the technologies of the Golden Throne(Undead Heresy?). The traitor legions, who are now known as the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Chaos Space Marines]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; TRAITOR ASTARTES, were defeated and pushed back to the [[Eye of Terror]]. All of the Primarchs that did not fall to Chaos during the Horus Heresy have either disappeared or been killed so every teenager ever, and until very recently, none remained to lead the Space Marine. ([[Roboute Guilliman]], primarch of the Ultrasmurfs, long enshrined and [[Matthew Ward|(according to some people)]] healing in stasis has recently been revived after ten thousand years). In addition, after the Heresy, the legions were mostly [[Second Founding|split into smaller &amp;quot;Chapters&amp;quot;]] of up to a thousand Marines according to the teachings of the [[Codex Astartes]] (although some Chapters, such as the [[Space Wolves]] and the [[Black Templars]], do not follow Astartes orthodoxy and maintain forces in much greater numbers, and [[Dark Angels|some chapters]] go so far as to form almost legion-strength forces.)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Space Marines are most commonly looked upon as warrior-monks, generally referring to each other as &amp;quot;Brother&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Battle Brother&amp;quot; or some variation thereof based on rank, spending most or all of their time training, in battle, or venerating the Emperor. However, no two Chapters are exactly alike, and many differ wildly from the standard perception of the Marines. The Space Wolves, as one example, appear to be much less disciplined than most other Chapters, maintaining a much larger force than permitted by the Codex and frequently having great feasts with much merriment and drinking (the Space Wolves happen to produce the only intoxicating beverage known to have any effect on Marine physiology, and which liquefies the innards of non-Astartes). Their attitude toward others in the Imperium can also differ greatly from Chapter to Chapter or even from marine to marine. Some are very idealistic, believing very strongly in their role as protectors of humanity (such as the [[Celestial Lions]] or the [[Salamanders]]). Others, like the [[Black Templars]], tend to disregard the ordinary elements of the Imperium, and emphasize much more their role as a weapon against its enemies.And some are just Angry.&lt;br /&gt;
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Their attitude towards the Emperor can also vary. Although they are typically believed to worship him as a deity like most of the rest of the Imperium, the Space Marines are, by virtue of their gene-seeds, derived from the Primarchs and hence the Emperor himself, making them much closer to him than most humans. In fact, many of the Space Marine chapters&#039; beliefs maintain some of the old [[Imperial Truth]] that the Emperor was not a god, but simply the greatest of mortal men, worthy of praise and veneration but not a deity proper. Although it is true that the majority of the chapters certainly venerate him in an orthodox manner, others just scream his name a lot because that&#039;s tradition.&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;The exact degree of Emperor-worship in the Space Marine chapters is a bit mushy. Some openly refer to the Emperor as the God-Emperor while others are outright contemptuous of the idea. Captain Zachariah Kersh, later Chapter Master, was such a nah-sayer but was converted by his experiences during the destruction of the Cholercaust on Certus-Minor. This could mean that among the various Chapters the exact degree of veneration of the Emperor could be entirely a personal choice rather than explicit doctrine. But again the inconsistencies therein make it hard to judge. Alternatively to this theme being a result of lazy writers is that it is in fact a clever but under-developed effect of the progression of the plot of Warhammer 40k. Such that by the end of the 41st millennium, things are so awful that even the Space Marines seek resolve in the worship of the God-Emperor.&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;.    &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blingmarine.jpg|thumb|right|The great Papa Smurf hisself.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Space Marines are generally regarded as having something of an &amp;quot;unfair advantage&amp;quot; in the tabletop, mainly because every young 40k player has a strong liking for them, and almost every unit in the listings has at least a 3+ armor save, making them rather hard to kill, especially when considering armies such as the Blood Angels have models that allow players to roll an additional &amp;quot;Feel No Pain&amp;quot; 4+ save if they fail the 3+ one. The problem is that it took 3 Space Marine chapter books in 5th edition to come up with a Space Marine Codex framework that didn&#039;t suck (almost nothing in C:SW is non-competitive or poorly priced), which is why Long Fangs are usually 50 points cheaper than their Space Marine counterparts, while being twice as effective. Why are Devastators supposedly more expensive? Combat tactics. Yeah, you&#039;re never going to use it. The Ultramarines in particular are an extremely popular choice of Space Marine chapter, and their blue design coupled with the small size of the miniatures often leads to them being referred to as &amp;quot;Smurfs&amp;quot;. Thanks to [[Indrick Boreale]], the Space Marines in general are frequently called &amp;quot;Spess Mehreens&amp;quot;, or variations to that effect. The Space Marines of today look very different from the glory days of Rogue Trader, when they earned the nickname &amp;quot;[[beakie|beakies]]&amp;quot; because of their signature helmets.&lt;br /&gt;
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Denizens of /tg/ are prone to claiming a wide variety of things about the Space Marines, usually about their sexual activity (or lack thereof), ranging from assertions that the genitalia of a Space Marine is nonfunctional to claims that they are castrated during the creation process. They never have any supporting evidence for these theories and it is not clear whether or not Space Marines are allowed to have sex, which chapters would allow them to have sex, if they even can have sex, if they&#039;re still capable of normal human reproduction, or what bits they may or may not still possess. Still, that doesn&#039;t stop anyone from stating their personal opinion as if it were fact. The most revealed is that a female inquisitorial henchwoman got an eyeful of a naked Grey Knight novice and was rather impressed by what she saw. The Grey Knight, naturally, had no idea why she seemed so interested.&lt;br /&gt;
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An interesting point to not is that right below this segment on the right is an image of a marine with a loin-cloth. If there is no modesty to protect, why protect it? One suspects that the reason marines aren&#039;t afforded the luxury of sex (aside from distraction from serving the Emperor), is that they&#039;d kill whatever unfortunate woman or xenos livestock they take a fancy to.&lt;br /&gt;
The point is, due to psychological conditioning and likely the sterilizing effects of the augmentation process, followed by a century plus of service to the emperor in radiation and toxic filled environments, they are simply disinclined towards it, and wouldn&#039;t result in any more meat-shields for the Emperor&#039;s glorious wars regardless, thus only serving the [[Slaanesh|arch-hedonist.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Creation==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1396451926378.jpg|400px|thumb|right|From deranged lab-experiment to fucking [[awesome]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Knowing [[Chaos|just]] [[C&#039;tan|what]] [[Necron|the]] [[Dark Eldar|fuck]] [[Ork|was]] [[Eldar|waiting]] for humanity in space, the Emperor of Mankind designed the [[gene-seed]], [[Gene-seed#The_Organs|nineteen special organs]] to enhance the regular human body to keep the Space Marines going when fighting these monstrosities. Over a series of several years, human adolescents, dubbed aspirants, are selected through a rigorous process which varies from Chapter to Chapter. They are always male, with cited reasons including that Astartes are basically clones of their Primarchs, and by extension the Emperor, and that the geneseed requires portions of the Y-chromosome to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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When their training goes to the next stage, the aspirants are implanted with the initial gene-seed. They then become neophytes, Space Marines in training. As the gene-seed is implanted into them, the neophytes also go through hypnotic conditioning to hone their responses. By the time they&#039;re done, the subject has few impulses beyond fighting and killing in the name of the Emperor (it&#039;s sometimes thought that this is what kills their sex drive) and most of their memories of their earlier lives are all but forgotten. The only mental frailties remaining are a &amp;quot;fear&amp;quot; (ATSKNF notwithstanding) of failure and experiencing notable stress when severely injured or crippled, as they are no longer able to fulfill their function.&lt;br /&gt;
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After receiving all these organs and conditioning, it&#039;s highly arguable if a Space Marine still qualifies as human. Though the [[Imperium of Man]] has basic &amp;quot;kill on sight&amp;quot; orders for most non-humans and venerates the &amp;quot;Holy Human Form&amp;quot;, the topic of whether or not Space Marines violate this edict is ignored, mostly because they were designed by the Emperor and thus considered holy creations. There is also an understandable hesitance to declare war on the only thing standing between the Imperium and the unfathomable evil of the [[Chaos Gods]]. Arguably marines are no less human than Mechanicum, just with organic implants instead of bionics, and mechanicums are likewise still count as 100% right and proper humans (even if most of them consider themselves a separate species or at least &amp;quot;humans 2.0&amp;quot; ).&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact, this religious need to adhere to the Holy Human Form may be why the Emperor designed the gene-seed to be a bio-enhancement project and not a genetic modification one; all of a Space Marine&#039;s inhuman abilities are a result of the artificially engineered organs shoved into their bodies during their creation, either directly (the secondary heart or multi-lung) or indirectly (the Ossmodula, which alters their hormone balance and so makes their skeleton growth go berserk). Consequently, this means a Space Marine would technically pass a genetic scan of being &amp;quot;human&amp;quot; better than an [[abhuman]] like an [[Ogryn]] or [[Ratling]] would.  Though, the holiness of the Human Form came long after the Horus Heresy, so this theory is unlikely.  Besides, the Emperor did attempt genetic modification but it proved either too expensive (Thunder Warriors) or resulted in unrecorded disasters.  Gene-enhancements are also much more conductive to mass-production.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, this tramples all over the spirit of the law whilst technically adhering to the letter, but it&#039;s hardly unique -- see the Ecclesiarchy having its own army of [[Sisters of Battle|power-armored gun-toting nuns]] despite being formally forbidden to have &amp;quot;men&amp;quot; under arms.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another theory is that the Space Marines were designed this way for more symbolic reasons. Done this way Marines retain a link to humanity; all were born human, no more than any other citizen. They became more through science and training but they aren&#039;t some new species or a warrior caste. As marines they are beyond humans but they know where they came from. The regular citizens see the marines as the best of humanity, proxies for the emperors power. The marines remember humans are their kin and while they are more than human they are still the same species all coming from the same root. The power vested in them doesn&#039;t pass by blood, it passes by merit and a normal citizen can still aspire to becoming an Astartes even if that&#039;s a long shot. The Emperor&#039;s whole deal was based around humanity, so he built something that could be a symbol to all humanity. He could have bred a new war species but he altered us because his dream of the Imperium was the dream of humanity. Symbolic difference, sure, but it matters. There&#039;s a reason space marines are venerated not feared.&lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally, bio-enhancements like the gene-seed are actually more controllable than a genetic enhancing procedure would be, since the resultant outcome is more predictable, more easily mass-produced, and it means that even if a Space Marine could have kids, they would in all likelihood not be different from ordinary humans, since their abilities aren&#039;t tied to them on a genetic level, though they would be far more likely to become space marines since some amount of genetic compatibility is required.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is also noteworthy that as a possibly unintended side effect of their geneseed, Space Marines are enormously well endowed. This is evidenced in the first book of the Horus Heresy series, whereby a Remembrancer described a naked Captain Loken as being &amp;quot;equine&amp;quot;. Of course out of all the chapters, only [[Space Wolves]] ever seem to take advantage of this factor.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Lifespan Debate==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sons of Corax by MajesticChicken.jpg|450px|thumb|left|When the going gets tough, the tough get going.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The lifespan for Astartes is something of a tricky subject. While it’s made clear that Space Marines live many centuries longer than normal humans, exactly how long they’re &#039;&#039;supposed&#039;&#039; to live has never really been elaborated on. It doesn’t help that there has never been a Space Marine shown or described to have ever died of anything resembling old age, and that different chapter bloodlines (and writers) each appear to handle aging differently. So there really isn’t any kind of baseline to work with here. Perhaps most central to the issue is the question of whether or not Astartes are biologically immortal. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the “for” side, both Dan Abnett and Graham McNeill claim that Astartes are indeed immortal, and that although they might physically age (grey hair, wrinkles, etc.) it is only skin deep and they are in just as good physical condition as when they first joined the Astartes, only dying when they are killed. Nick Kyme also appears to be a believer in the immortal point of view (though more in a sitting-stone-gathers-moss-and-lasts-forever kind of way), as in his Salamanders series, an [[wat|Astartes survivor from the Horus-friggin-Heresy was found in a crashed and buried Salamanders starship]]. His armor had melded into the metal of the ship and he could no longer move, but he was alive. He had apparently been sitting there watching over the empty, ancient suits of armor from his fallen brothers for ten thousand years. He was also borderline crazy from all the memories filling his head (thanks eidetic memory, but then if he had human memory he&#039;d have Alzheimers or something) and his vocal cords and muscles were desiccated, but the latter are implied to be due to atrophy from inactivity more than anything else so that doesn&#039;t count. The Night Lords series by Aaron Dembski-Bowden is another in the &amp;quot;for&amp;quot; catagory, at least in that the Astartes refer to humans as &amp;quot;mortals,&amp;quot; and Talos, at just 300 years old, is apparently considered young for a crusade-era, unwarped traitor space marine.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the “against” side, the Blood Angels are specifically noted for having exceptionally long, but limited lifespans, namely a 1000 years give or take, and Marines from other chapters don’t live nearly as long. This has been reaffirmed in the current Blood Angels Codex, and it should be noted that it was written by GW&#039;s biggest Space Marine fanboy. Yes, even Ward says Space Marines can die of old age. Even Abnett has flip-flopped a bit on it, with Brothers of the Snake (admittedly his first time writing Space Marines) portraying the apothecary Khiron as starting to slow down with his advanced age and not being quite as fit as he used to be.&lt;br /&gt;
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So yeah, Black Library has a tendency to be inconsistent with the established lore. Big surprise. But in this case the reason is twofold: firstly, some gamers would think less of the Space Marines if they could die of old age, and Games Workshop doesn&#039;t want that. Secondly, Games Workshop seems to agree that they would be awesome if they didn&#039;t die of old age, but they don&#039;t want to anger the part of the fanbase that would disapprove of Space Marines being biologically immortal, so they&#039;re deliberately vague about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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(For those arguing that if marines were already immortal, it would give the Chaos Space Marines less impetus to become daemon princes, there&#039;s a big difference between being biological immortal but still susceptible to physical limitations, injury and death, and being a godlike unkillable creature of the warp that doesn&#039;t obey the laws of physics anymore and can never truly be killed, only banished for a short time.) &lt;br /&gt;
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Biologically immortal or not, at the end of the day the only true measurement of an Astartes’ lifespan is how killy they are. If Space Marines can die of old age, they’re almost certainly going to die in battle before age ever starts to take its toll, and if it does, then they just die in battle as soon as old age starts to slow them down, so that doesn&#039;t really count. As a general estimate, though, 400-500 years seems to be a good average life expectancy for most Space Marines. Past that point, a Space Marine is usually considered among their chapter’s most venerable elders, and only the real badasses ever get this old.&lt;br /&gt;
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==GW Space Marine Chapters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:40k RPG.jpg|300px|right|thumb|We honestly can&#039;t tell whether this is a dude or a chick, so you&#039;ll just have to make a guess and face the consequences.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aurora Chapter]] - Institutionally lazily named. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astral Claws]] - Institutionally secessionist.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astral Knights]] - Institutionally [[The World Engine|crazy awesome, but totally dead]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alpha Legion]] - Institutionally closet loyalists&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Dragons]] - Institutionally taking their cue from Wolverine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Templars]] - Institutionally crusaders.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Angels]] - Institutionally [[Black Rage|unstable]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Ravens]] - Institutionally relic hunters.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Celebrants]] - Institutionally gradient.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Celestial Lions]] - Institutionally suffering losses from [[Ork Snipers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crimson Fists]] - Institutionally Spanish.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Angels]] - - Institutionally &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;mysterious&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Loyal.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Hands]] - - Institutionally... wait have these guys done anything other then face the Hrud and a couple of orks?&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Hunters]] - Institutionally grim of grim marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Death Spectres]] - Institutionally albino.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deathwatch]] - Institutionally, intentionally and professionally xenocidal. Employed by the [[Inquisition]], recruited from other Chapters.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Doom Eagles]] - Institutionally doomed.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Excoriators]] - Institutionally ugly.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Executioners]] - Institutionally [[lawful stupid|honorable]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Exorcists]] - Institutionally [[Heresy|possessed and exorcised]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flesh Tearers]] - Institutionally RIP AND TEAR.  &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flame Falcons]] - Institutionally ON FIRE. ALL OF THEM.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fire Angels]] - Institutionally religious BUT ALSO ON FIRE. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fire Lords]] - Institutionally [[Flamer|burny]], possibly more so than the Salamanders (see below).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Genesis Chapter]] - Institutionally [[Ultramarines]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grey Knights]] - Institutionally killing [[Daemon|Daemons]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guardians of the Covenant]] - Institutionally record-keeping catholic space monks.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hammers of Dorn]] - Institutionally trolling the Ultramarines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Howling Griffons]] - Institutionally Black Templars wannabes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Imperial Fists]] - Institutionally waiting tactically.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Invaders]] - Institutionally trading blows with Eldar.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Iron Hands]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|Scottish]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Iron Snakes]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|Texas Rangers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lamenters]] - Institutionally unlucky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Legion of the Damned]] - Institutionally undead.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marines Malevolent]] - Institutionally MASSIVE assholes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mantis Warriors]] - Institutionally misdirecting.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mentors]] - Institutionally academic. Has not been heard from [[Rogue Trader (Sourcebook)|for a long time]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Minotaurs]] - Institutionally mysteriously paranoid teamkilling assholes. They are suspected to be in league with the [[High Lords of Terra]] as an attempt to police the Adeptus Astartes. Cause that&#039;ll work.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mortifactors]] - Institutionally goth.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raptors]] - Institutionally [[Reasonable_Marines|reasonable]] and [[shooty]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Raven Guard]] - Institutionally [[Troll|tricksy]] and speedy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rainbow Warriors]] - Institutionally not appearing in this game.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Scorpions]] - Institutionally pure.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Talons]] - Institutionally bloodthirsty.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Relictors]] - Institutionally radical.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Salamanders]] - Institutionally [[Flamer|burny]]. Also, surprisingly nice for all their... fiery nature. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sable Swords]] - Institutionally heirs to the [[Astral Knights]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scythes of the Emperor]] - Institutionally NOT DEAD YET.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silver Skulls]] - Institutionally [[Shaman|shamanistic]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sons of Medusa]] - Institutionally lime green.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soul Drinkers]] - Institutionally rebellious.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Sharks]] - Institutionally [[Shark|SHARKY]], BITCH!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Wolves|Space Corgis]] - Institutionally spess vikings with a wolf fetish&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Phantoms]] - Institutionally SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Storm Wardens]] - Institutionally Celtic.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ultramarines|Ultrasmurfs]] - Institutionally [[Codex_Astartes|orthodox]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[White Scars]] - Institutionally Mongolian.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valedictors]] - Institutionally gone, so forget it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Space Marine Chapter Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Angels of the Rock.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Tiny head syndrome is a common side effect of the augmentations]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marneus Calgar]] - Chapter Master of the [[Ultramarines]]. Received the rank by having the most plot armor.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dante]] - Chapter Master of the [[Blood Angels]]. &#039;&#039;&#039;Beware!!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;. Dante is watching you! Received the rank for being so old and always wearing a mask so no one knows what his face looks like anymore. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Logan Grimnar]] - Great Wolf of the [[Space Wolves]]. Is the wolfiest of all the wolf lords without being a furry.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azrael]] - Supreme Grand Master of the [[Dark Angels]]. Best at VANQUISHING FOUL TRAITORS FROM OTHER LEGIONS.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vorn Hagen]] - Chapter Master of the [[Imperial Fists]]. Appointed as Chapter Master &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;out of pity&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; because he was the second best candidate in line for the job, and the [[Darnath Lysander|TRUE HERO]] had turned it down so he could continue doing what he does best (namely make servants of Chaos cry with a generous appliance of [[Thunder Hammer]] to the face). &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jubal Khan]] - Chapter Master of the [[White Scars]]. Proved his speediness by outracing a bike mounted captain wearing only rollerskates.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tu&#039;Shan]] - Master of the Fire Drakes, [[derp|de-Facto]] Chapter Master of the [[Salamanders]]. Forged the burniest flamer.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kardan Stronos]] - Chapter Master of the [[Iron Hands]](sort of). Was actually democratically elected for diplomatic reasons, temporarily. It&#039;s complicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Corvin Severax - Former Chapter Master of the [[Raven Guard]], nicknamed &amp;quot;Master of Shadows&amp;quot;. Got the job by being the sneakiest of the sneaky marines (they were looking for him to officially grant him the rank until the last day). Unfortunately some [[Shadowsun|blue-skinned bitch]] had him killed in the Damocles Gulf (ironically by being even sneakier and trickier then him).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kayvaan Shrike]] - Formerly Captain of the Raven Guard&#039;s third company, and all-around badass that [[get shit done]] in his Primarch&#039;s time-honored way (i.e. sneak up to a motherfucker and shred him with [[Lightning Claws]] before vanishing again). Shrike was decided unanimously to be Severax&#039; successor when the latter suffered from an unfortunate severe overdose of Tau gunline; only adding to his [[awesome]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kaldor Draigo]] - Supreme Grand Master and of the [[Grey Knights]] and one of [[Matt Ward]]&#039;s [[Mary Sue|Special Snowflakes]]. Honored for being the single biggest mary sue in the whole damn setting by being able to survive in the Warp unprotected and uncorrupted.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Helbrecht]] - High Marshall of the [[Black Templars]]. Was voted High Marshall for being the angriest of the not angry marines. Has a [[tsundere]] relation with [[Imotekh the Stormlord]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pedro Kantor]] - Chapter Master of the [[Crimson Fists]]. Got the most votes (read: all three) during the election. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gabriel Seth]] - Chapter Master of the [[Flesh Tearers]]. Ripped and tore the most during the Chapter Master audition (also kicked one of the judges in the balls).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Azariah Kyras]] - Former Chapter Master of the [[Blood Ravens]] who was killed for being a filthy, despicable, traitorous, no good follower of Chaos. Later replaced by [[Gabriel Angelos]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sarpedon - Chapter Master of the [[Soul Drinkers]] Also, a (bottom) half giant spider mutant. Got all his friends killed for trying to do the right thing. Rookie Grimdark mistake, kid.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Carab Culln]] - Lord High Commander of the [[Red Scorpions]]. Got promoted after the last one was killed.&lt;br /&gt;
*Artekus Bardane - Chapter Master of the [[Relictors]]. Collects and uses chaos artifacts better then anyone in the chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Asterion Moloc]] - Chapter Master of the [[Minotaurs]]. No clue how he got the job, our inquiries were met with death threats and top level cease and desist orders. Has a laser-shooting pimp cane.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lugft Huron]] - Chapter Master of the [[Astral Claws]]. Got the rank by being absolutely awesome, unfortunately he overdid it and caused the [[Badab War]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Lias Issodon - Chapter Master of the [[Raptors_(Chapter)|Raptors]]. The most reasonable of the not-reasonable marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tyberos the Red Wake]] - Chapter Master of the [[Space Sharks]], or at least assumed to be. He was the leader of the Carcharodons during the Badab War, but his exact rank was never confirmed. Still showed the best technique when it came to applying &#039;&#039;&#039;RIP AND TEAR&#039;&#039;&#039; to heretic asses, assisted by his [[awesome|lightning chainfists]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Omadon Tiresias - Chapter Master of the [[Star Phantoms]].  Blinded by warp storms during the evacuation of the Star Phantom home world, he forsook his own sight to save the relics of his chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
*Malakim Phoros - Chapter Master of the [[Lamenters]]. Not happy with his chapter being constantly shat upon and sided with Huron during the Badab War. Ohh, you poor man. Despite being utterly screwed and [[Eldrad|dicked with]] due to [[Tzeentch|unbelievably bad fortune]] AND struggling with crippling depression and cynicism, the guy refuses to give up faith in his fellow man. [[Grimdark|Naturally, it only makes things worse.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rivalries == &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Moloc.JPG|300px|right|thumb|Everyone hates the Minotaurs]]&lt;br /&gt;
While normally above mortal shortcomings, the greatest flaw of the Space Marines is their hubris. They are immensely proud warriors who do not take kindly to having their honor slighed. Some take mental note of this for a later date while others [[rip and tear|take the more direct approach]]. This has created some notable rivalries between the various Chapters, some of which date back to the Great Crusade.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Space Wolves and Dark Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Space Wolves and Dark Angels have a rather tumultuous and sometimes violent rivalry, but in a way their legions truly reflect the relationship between brothers. The rivalry itself stems from a confrontation between their primarchs that stemmed from the different cultures the primarchs had come up in. During a joint operation between the Wolves and the Dark Angels, the planet&#039;s ruler had insulted Russ personally, so Russ resolved to slay him personally. The Lion tried to cut Russ in on his deep strike plan, but Russ would have none of it: He didn&#039;t want to defeat the enemy, he wanted to utterly crush them. Frustrated with his brother&#039;s lack of cooperation, the Lion launched his strike without the wolves help, and Russ fought his way into the planetary ruler&#039;s palace just in time to watch the Lion behead him. Furious, Russ threw down his weapons and punched the Lion, starting a lengthy fist fight that only ended when Russ started laughing upon realizing how pointless the fight was and how stupid he&#039;d been. Thinking that Russ was laughing at him, the Lion punched Russ unconscious. When Russ awoke he sought out the Lion to make amends, but he had already departed with his fleet. Though the two would work together again, the Lion was rather unforgiving (oh the irony) towards Russ. To Russ the Lion seemed the antagonist. After all, in the halls of Fenris a brawl between angry brothers was hardly unusual. When the fight ended you&#039;d toast each other and drink away the bruises and move on. To the Lion Russ seemed at fault. After all, in the knightly orders of Caliban striking one&#039;s brothers was not done: petty infighting could not be tolerated when monsters slavered at the gate. As is so often the case between brothers, both were at fault and neither would back down. To this day the Space Wolves and Dark Angels (and their successor chapters) will fight (usually) non-lethal honor duels to &amp;quot;settle the score,&amp;quot; though &amp;quot;the score&amp;quot; has never really been agreed on. Occasionally tensions between the two chapters will boil over into open warfare which is often caused by &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Fallen Angels&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; TRAITORS UNASSOCIATED WITH THE DARK ANGELS hiding amidst the Space Wolves&#039; protectorate worlds, using the tensions to their advantage. Finally it&#039;s worth noting that even though the two (former) legions often fight, they never show that rivalry to the wider imperium, and they&#039;ll set aside their rivalry whenever they need to [[get shit done]] together.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Word Bearers&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Ultramarines are pissed off at the Word Bearers for a great many things: 1) They turned traitor 2) They used millions of cultists as meat shields during the [[Battle of Calth]], which the Ultramarines saw as dishonorable and disgusting 3) They almost destroyed Calth. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Alpha Legion&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Alpha Legion led the Ultramarines halfway across the galaxy on a fool&#039;s errand that ultimately ensured they were nowhere near the Imperial Palace during the Horus Heresy. Adding insult to injury, they inflicted enormous casualties on the Ultramarines, and though they succeeded in killing Alpharius (or did they?), the Alpha Legion&#039;s command structure was so decentralized that it did little to affect them.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Black Templars (also the Imperial Fists, the Crimson Fists, the Space Wolves, and the Salamanders)&#039;&#039;&#039; - When Roboute Guilliman tried to force the Codex Astartes on the Space Marine legions after the Horus Heresy, some legions - most notably the Imperial Fists - outright refused, not wanting their legions to be broken down into smaller chapters. Rogal Dorn called Guilliman a coward, while Guilliman called Dorn a rebel. The Space Wolves and the Salamanders ended up backing Dorn, while the Raven Guard and the White Scars supported Guilliman. The rivalry became so intense that the Imperial Navy even fired on the Imperial Fist strike cruiser &#039;&#039;Terrible Angel&#039;&#039;, and it seemed that the Space Marines would war against one another once again. Finally, Rogal Dorn yielded to prevent another war and broke his legion into the Black Templars and the Crimson Fists. As the Ultramarines still were wary of the loyalties of the Imperial Fists and their successors, Sigismund - the first Emperor&#039;s Champion and the man that Dorn had appointed to be the Black Templars Chapter Master - declared a 10,000 year crusade in the Emperor&#039;s name to prove their loyalty. Even though tensions have since cooled between the Ultramarines and the other chapters, the Ultramarines are still suspicious about (read: sticking their nose into the business of) the Black Templars as they still refuse to conform to the Codex Astartes, and won&#039;t tell the Ultramarines just how huge their chapter is. In short, Sigismund and Leman Russ told Guilliman where he can shove his Codex Astartes, and he&#039;s all anal pained about it. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Uriel Ventris]] and Pasanius Lysane, of the Ultramarines, were sworn to a Death Oath by their Chapter Master Marneus Calgar as punishment for violating the Codex Astartes (specifically, because they had abandoned the rest of their company to assist a Deathwatch Kill-team during the Battle of Tarsus Ultra). Their mission: find and destroy the [[Daemonculaba]]. The quest took the Ultramarines pair to the nightmarish [[Daemon World]] of [[Medrengard]], within the [[Eye of Terror]] itself. Medrengard was the homeworld of the Iron Warriors Traitor Legion. It was also the location of [[Honsou]], the evil Iron Warriors Warsmith who oversaw the Daemonculaba project from within his fortress, Khalan-Ghol. The Ultramarines were successful in destroying the Daemonculaba, and were also able to bring ruination to Khalan-Ghol and Honsou&#039;s forces. Uriel Ventris also managed to shoot Honsou in the head. Unfortunately, the Warsmith survived the headshot. Upon realizing the extent of the damage Uriel had caused, Honsou swore revenge and also the utter annihilation of [[Ultramar]]. Honsou was aware that before he ever dealt with Uriel Ventris, the Ultramarines spent years and countless resources and lives to repel a [[Tyranid]] incursion at Tarsis Ultra. Honsou thus unleashed a plan which destroyed every living thing on Tarsis Ultra, and reduced the planet itself to a lifeless rock. Destroying the planet provided no strategic gain to the Iron Warriors; Honsou carried out his horrific genocide simply to spite Uriel Ventris and the Ultramarines. Following this, the Iron Warriors use an army won from the [[Red Corsairs]] to free the [[Daemon Prince]] [[M&#039;kar]], and invade [[Ultramar]]. Though the &amp;quot;Bloodborn&amp;quot; army is beaten back, the Ultramarines lost over one third of their battle-brothers in the attempt, leaving them open to attack for the first time since the First Tyrannic War and unable to properly participate in the Imperial counter-offensive for the [[13th Black Crusade]]. The Ultramarines and the Iron Warriors have thus become bitter enemies-- with Uriel Ventris and Honsou in particular becoming sworn foes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Hammers of Dorn&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Hammers adhere rigidly to the Codex Astartes, to the point where they point out any deviations from the codex by the Ultramarines. According to the Hammers of Dorn, Guilliman may have had the genius to pen the codex, but the sons of Dorn are the only ones that can bring out its full potential.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and the Minotaurs&#039;&#039;&#039; - While the Minotaurs are hated by everyone the Ultramarines have a special grudge against them, due to the Euxine Incident during the Macharian Heresy. During the heresy the loyalist Doom Warriors and Inceptors chapters were busy [[skub|fighting each other over a matter of honor]], and refused to stop and aid Imperial forces. The Minotaurs were sent to quell the dispute, which they did in their [[rip and tear|usual manner]]. They attacked both sides in force, nearly destroying them both. The Doom Warriors were badly beaten and forced into a barely-organized retreat almost immediately. The Interceptors weren&#039;t so lucky. With no way to withdraw they suffered the full onslaught of the Minotaurs and finally surrendered with less then 100 marines left. The honored 2nd founding chapter was subsequently [[Blood Ravens|robbed of most of their chapter relics, the Minotaurs stealing them right off their dead bodies]], including their flagship, a relic of the Great Crusade. This brought them a great deal of hatred from the Ultramarines and their successors, who have since forbidden the Minotaurs from entering Ultramar and seek vengeance whenever the opportunity arises.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the World Eaters&#039;&#039;&#039; - Both constantly compete for superiority in melee combat and also the angriest motherfucking berserker full of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard and White Scars&#039;&#039;&#039; - Supposedly dates back to a huge fucking argument between [[Corax]] and [[Jaghatai Khan]], where the two had a massive spat over the proper use of rapid-reaction forces. Corax insisted they be used as part of infiltration and deep-strike units, and Jaghatai insisted they were to be on the front lines - the two never really saw eye-to-eye, Corax seeing Jaghatai as devastatingly effective, but with the tactical sense of a drunken Space Wolf, and Jaghatai seeing Corax as too cautious and tactical for proper man-fighting. The two would eventually make up after the Horus Heresy, and both the Raven Guard and White Scars would be forced to ally on several occasions - most notably during the infamous Hunt for Voldorius - but an intense rivalry over whose fast-attack doctrine is better persists to this day, and the two factions are still kind of assholes to one another as a result. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the Black Legion&#039;&#039;&#039; - Considering that Horus killed their Primarch (who, before the Heresy, were closer than any other Primarchs) which resulted in them suffering from the Black Rage which eventually causes every descendant of Sanguinius to have visions of being killed by Horus, the Blood Angels probably despise the Black Legion to the point of pure obsession. Also as a rule, the Blood Angels have a special hatred for the [[Abaddon|owner]] of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Talon of Horus&#039;&#039;&#039;, since it killed their father.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and the Grey Knights&#039;&#039;&#039; - Angron was banished back to the Warp by Grey Knights during the first battle of Armageddon, which resulted in the World Eaters&#039; defeat. Angron has since been resurfacing, and has sworn revenge.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard and the Black Legion (also the Word Bearers, Night Lords, Iron Warriors, and Alpha Legion)&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Raven Guard were the second hardest hit by the Drop Site Massacre of Istvaan V &#039;&#039;(the Salamanders got hit worse, but there weren&#039;t really enough survivors to hold a grudge)&#039;&#039;. Though all of the traitor legions except the Thousand Sons were involved, the Raven Guard holds a special hatred for the former Luna Wolves and Horus, a hatred which has transferred over to [[Abaddon]] and the Black Legion. That said, the Raven Guard go absolutely murderous on any of the Legions who turned on them at Istvaan V.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Grey Knights and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - Officially, there really isn&#039;t a rivalry at all. Because officially the Grey Knights don&#039;t exist. Unofficially, during the First War for Armageddon, Grey Knights were ordered to fire on dozens of civilian ships because there was a fraction of a shadow of smidgen of a chance that they were tainted by Chaos. The Space Wolves decided this was pretty dickish, and protected the civilians. Naturally, the Inquisition made it worse. Then old [[Logan Grimnar|Loggy]] chops a Grey Knight Grand Master&#039;s head off and kills four Justicars, the ugly downward spiral of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;WTF!?&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s started there. Eventually, an understanding was reached where the remaining civvies weren&#039;t murdered but just mindwiped a bit and Inquisitorial ships would never again come to Fenris or the wolves would tear them a new asshole.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Imperial Fists and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Imagine their rivalry akin to World War I. The Imperial Fists are the Brits who love making defenses, while the Iron Warriors are the Germans who also love making defenses but also love destroying stuff. Also, Perturabo hated Rogal Dorn for being Daddy&#039;s golden boy and his constant boasting of the fortifications of the Imperial Palace. Perturabo eventually bested Dorn and the Imperial Fists by making a huge space fortress that Dorn then tried to attack in an effort to bring Perturabo to justice. Inside the fortress was nothing but inwardly-faced gunlines, meaning the entire thing was a trap and wound up cutting down enormous numbers of the Imperial Fists before they could retreat. The Imperial Fists were too fierce for the Iron Warriors to destroy without making the ultimate sacrifice however, proving that they get shit done. Perturabo, naturally, found his plan fucking hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Space Wolves despised the Red Sorcerers for their practice of magic, and didn&#039;t question a goddamned thing after Horus had intentionally given the Wolves incorrect orders (to destroy the Thousand Sons, as opposed to talking Magnus down). Suffice to say, the Space Wolves caused colossal damage to the Thousand Sons, and in the process, destroyed one of the largest repositories of knowledge in the entire fucking Imperium, including a huge amount of information that would have helped the Imperium better fight off its enemies. Horus&#039; dick move forced the Thousand Sons to eventually turn to Tzeentch just to survive. Though the Wolves&#039; offense devastated the Sons, the Legion would nonetheless resurface to attack the Space Wolves: they led a siege on their homeworld and succeeded in causing considerable damage before being driven off. During this offensive, they managed to destroy a series of laboratories, including one that held an entire generation worth of the Space Wolves&#039; Gene-Seed (as well as the cure for the Wulfen curse), and Magnus himself was responsible for killing the Space Wolves&#039; chapter-master.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;White Scars and the Space Wolves&#039;&#039;&#039; - Thousand Sons were the biggest bros of the Scars during the Great Crusade, their primarchs were total bros too, so when they figured out that Wolves destroyed Prospero, killed most of the (still totally loyal) Thousand Sons, forced surviving ones into going heretic, and don&#039;t even feel any guilt or remorse about it, none were surprised Scars kept a huge grudge against the Space Yiffs. Also during the crusade, the Scars hated being compared to the Wolves because of the apparent link to barbarism. The Wolves themselves also have a thing or two to say about the multiple times Scars hadn&#039;t come to help when they could, starting from when they left Wolves alone against entire Alpha Legion fleet.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iron Hands and the Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - Prior to the Heresy, Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus were &#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039; close friends. Their bond ran so deep that even as Fulgrim declared his intentions of joining the forces of Chaos to Ferrus, asking him to join him in overthrowing the Emperor, Ferrus couldn&#039;t open fire on his brother&#039;s ship. Naturally, this had some rather nasty effects in the long term, not least of which was Fulgrim decapitating the Gorgon with his own sword. The Iron Hands did not take kindly to this. Also, getting all repressed and logical over the next 10,000 years caused Slaanesh to take breaking them as a challenge.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and The Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - In addition to following rival deities, the Emperor&#039;s Children lost huge numbers of troops to the World Eaters at Skalthrax. Really, all you need to know is that [[Kharn]] and a Flamer were involved, and that before this incident, the World Eaters were a much more coordinated force.&lt;br /&gt;
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**&#039;&#039;&#039;World Eaters and World Eaters&#039;&#039;&#039; - This event caused the World Eaters to break up into warbands&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Emperor&#039;s Children and the Iron Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Given that Fulgrim tried to sacrifice Peturabo&#039;s soul to Slaanesh to fuel his ascension to Daemon Prince...&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Angels and  FOUL TRAITORS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Do &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; get between them and a FOUL TRAITOR TO THE IMPERIUM WHO CERTAINLY HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE SONS OF THE LION. It can only end in tears.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Thousand Sons and World Eaters:&#039;&#039;&#039; Khorne hates sorcery, and so the World Eaters hate the Sons. Sadly for the World Eaters, they&#039;re usually well out of the Sons&#039; league; the Thousand Sons tend to pick conflicts selectively, which means the followers of Khorne have rarely even had the chance to fight them. Also, it doesn&#039;t do much to appease Khorne&#039;s bloodlust, since there is no blood or skulls to offer, just dust.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Ravens and EVERYONE:&#039;&#039;&#039; Apart from Captain Titus of the Ultramarines, almost every Marine Chapter mentioned in having contact with the Blood Ravens have not been on good terms. Most likely due to their rampant kleptomania. This animosity extends beyond the Space Marines, and into the rest of the Imperium as well; Imperial Guard forces hate them for exterminating the Kronus Liberators, and the Inquisition doesn&#039;t like them for their secrecy.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and the Emperor&#039;s Children&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Fabius Bile]] stole the blood of Sanguinius from the Blood Angels&#039; Fortress-Monastery as part of a plot to make a clone of the God-Emperor. As the neophyte initiation process for the Blood Angels requires the consumption of some of the aforementioned blood, the Blood Angels and all their Successor Chapters have sworn to find and kill Bile at all costs. (For a while, it looked like they succeeded- that is, until they found out that Bile had begun cloning &#039;&#039;himself&#039;&#039;.)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iron Hands and Raven Guard and Salamanders&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Iron Hands are still pissy about the whole [[Drop Site Massacre|Isstvan V]] thing. They believe that had the Salamanders and Raven Guard followed their Primarch Ferrus Manus they would have won at the dropsite massacre. Completely overlooking the fact that they were surprised, surrounded, outgunned and outnumbered nearly 3 to 1. They don&#039;t like the Raven Guard in particular for their use of stealth and subterfuge, and also for having a pretty much identical color scheme. The Salamanders aren&#039;t too keen about the Iron Hands belief of &amp;quot;purging the weak&amp;quot; and usual disregard for civilian casualties and sometimes their own Marines. The Raven Guard and Salamanders never pulled any of this bullshit with each other, though, and remain close allies, if for nothing other than the Hands constantly being dicks to both of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Marines Malevolent and Salamanders&#039;&#039;&#039; - What happens when the galaxy&#039;s greatest assholes meet the galaxy&#039;s greatest humanitarian marines? Hilarity that&#039;s what. The hate fueled rivalry that was first widely known came during the Third War for Armageddon where a squad of Marines Malevolent used their [[Whirlwind|Whirlwinds]] to fire upon an Ork-occupied camp, when they &#039;&#039;knew&#039;&#039; that the camp contained hundreds of Imperial civilian hostages, mostly women and children. Oh and guess what their response was, something to do with &amp;quot;Meh, we only serve the Emprah only&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;We didn&#039;t know there were &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; many civilians&amp;quot;. As you can imagine, this both horrified and royally pissed off the Salamanders, and when these two Chapters met again after the war, Chapter Master Tu&#039;Shan, to put it simply, bitch-slapped the Captain of the Marines Malevolent in front of &#039;&#039;everybody in the city,&#039;&#039; prompting much sniggering and cheering among both Guardsmen and civilians alike. Because of such reaction to complete dickwards, the Salamanders were considered as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Heroes of Armageddon&#039;&#039;&#039; by popular vote.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bros To the End==&lt;br /&gt;
As there are several chapters and legions who despise one another, there&#039;s a few that get along damned well.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Raven Guard, Salamanders, and Iron Hands&#039;&#039;&#039; - True since the great crusade, where these three found they worked extremely well in-concert - The Raven Guard acting as the advance and cutting off critical locations and eliminating command units, the Salamanders in providing the heavy punch to follow this up, and the Iron Hands providing the tide of firepower to support both. That being said, the Iron Hands&#039; relationship with the Raven Guard and the Salamanders has deteriorated since the Horus Heresy; they believe that had their allies not retreated from the Drop Site Massacre, Ferrus Manus would not have been killed and Horus would have been defeated before he could pose a threat to the Imperium. (It doesn&#039;t take a genius to realize that this would have just led to the complete annihilation of their Legions in practice.) It&#039;s not really clear if the Hands still fight alongside their former best bros in the 41st millennium, but given the whole &amp;quot;feeding a Raven Guard company to psyker orks for lulz&amp;quot; thing, it doesn&#039;t seem likely.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Salamanders and Blood Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; - Though the Salamanders are friendly with most Chapters anyway, they&#039;re particularly tight with the Blood Angels. Both Chapters are some of the few in the Imperium that actually go out of their way for civilians and put them before pride and glory in battle. This became particularly evident during the [[Armageddon|Second War of Armageddon]], when both fought side-by-side against the [[Orks]] and when [[Dante]] publicly honored [[Tu&#039;Shan]] for his bravery during the war and bitch-slapping the Marines Malevolent Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Imperial Fists and Imperial Fists successors&#039;&#039;&#039; - Doctrinal differences and martial angst aside, the sons of Dorn have always been on good terms with each other. Whenever a crisis threatens Terra that is too great for a single chapter, the Imperial Fists and their successors unite to put an end to that threat, such as [[The War of The Beast]], and the [[Age of Apostasy|Second Siege of Terra]] to put [[Goge Vandire]] in his place. Every century, they also come together for an epic swordfighting tournament called the [[Feast of Blades]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood Angels and Imperial Fists&#039;&#039;&#039; - Both fought and died in the defense of the Imperial Palace. Broforce = very yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ultramarines and Imperial Fists&#039;&#039;&#039; - Similar to the Space Wolves and Dark Angels above, beef about the codex aside, the two chapters have always been on very good terms. (I guess the above segment regarding the ultramarines firing on the imperial fists ship is just swept under the rug)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Angels and Dark Angel successors&#039;&#039;&#039; - THE DARK ANGELS HAVE NO SUCH RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR SUCCESSOR CHAPTERS. RUMORS THAT DARK ANGEL SUCCESSORS ARE STILL UNDER DIRECT COMMAND FROM THEIR PARENT CHAPTER, EFFECTIVELY STILL MAKING THEM FUNCTION AS A LEGION, ARE OBVIOUSLY LIES AND SLANDER FABRICATED BY THE FOUL HERETICS OF CHAOS, AS SUCH AN ACT WOULD BREAK THE GUIDELINES OF THE CODEX ASTARTES, WHICH LOYAL CHAPTERS WOULD NOT DO.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Salamanders and Word Bearers {pre-heresy.}&#039;&#039;&#039; - Something about all the sacrifices, and all the red paint.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Official /tg/ Space Marine Chapters==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cloten.jpg|300px|right|thumb|THE RAPE TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES!!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
One of /tg/&#039;s favorite pastimes is creating new and exciting chapters of the Adeptus Astartes based on silly concepts. [[/tg/|/tg/&#039;s]] [[/tg/&#039;s homebrews|homebrew]] chapters include:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Adeptus Orthodontus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angry Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bald Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bro Marines|Alpha Sigma Sigma]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Butthurt Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Wonderful Misadventures of: Inquisitor Fob and the Classy Marines|Classy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Censor Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Comedy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Disco Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dorf Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drunk Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sigmar Marines|Emperor&#039;s Hammers]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Paragons]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galactic Partridges]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Golden Aquilas]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lazy Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Manly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Metal Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mexicarines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mole Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obstinate Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pathetic Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pretty Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reasonable Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Skeletons]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scary Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sleepy Marines|Dream Warriors]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Shanks]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elderly Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As you can see, /tg/ has a problem with creativity.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Founding of /tg/ Space Marine Chapters===&lt;br /&gt;
After the release of Deathwatch: Rites of Battle, /tg/ quickly flung itself at the chapter creation rules and began to produce a second wave of /tg/ chapters. Noticeably more serious business than the previous chapters, these Spess Mahreens range from the widely popular Emperor&#039;s Nightmare, to the derpy Flesh Helms.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Abyssal Jaws]] - Institutionally sharky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black Locks]] - Institutionally corsair.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood Jaguars]] - Institutionally Aztec.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brotherhood of the Gauntlet]] - Institutionally Arabic Ghazi.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brotherhood of the Megalith]] - Institutionally rocky.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Conservators]] - Institutionally poor and under-equipped. It&#039;s what happens when you piss of the Mechanicus.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deep Ones (Tiji Sector)|Deep Ones]] - Institutionally aquatic and environmentally resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Desert Fangs]] - Institutionally [[Angry Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dune Walkers]] - Institutionally Arabic Nomads.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Bears]] - Institutionally lost.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Emperor&#039;s Nightmare]] - Institutionally [[Sleepy Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eyes of Mordred]] - Institutionally [[Scary Marines]] taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flesh Helms]] - Institutionally [[Imperial Guard]] of the Adeptus Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guardians Exemplar]] - Institutionally equal to the [[Marines Malevolent]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ice Serpents]] - Institutionally [[Baneblade|mechanized]] for war.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ice Wraiths]] - Institutionally [[Awesome|cyborg-ice-vampire-yeti-riders]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knights Inductor]] - Institutionally [[Reasonable Marines]] taken seriously. Also [[Mary Sues|MARY SUES]], don&#039;t mention them on /tg/. You&#039;ll just [[troll|cause a shitstorm]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knights Repentant]] - Institutionally UTTERLY LOYAL and true pre-heresy [[Word Bearers]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lumbermarines]] - Institutionally lumberjacks.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rising Sons]] - Institutionally BANZAI!!!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Screaming Eagles]] - Institutionally &#039;MURICAN!!! FUCK YEAH!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Talons of Corvus]] - Institutionally a more heroic [[Command and Conquer|Nod]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Sovereign&#039;s Appraisal]] - Institutionally loyal and sympathetic despite mutations, being declared renegade, [[Slaanesh]] trying to seduce them and the [[Ultramarines]] and their successors trying to terminate them.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[War Brothers]] - Institutionally not giving a damn about what the [[Dark Angels]] want from them.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Adeptus Estates]] - Institutionally home building.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mourning Sons]] - Institutionally shedding [[Fist of the North Star|Manly Tears]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Star Krakens]] - Institutionally Viking, yet not [[Space Wolves|THAT]] Viking. Plus one of the biggest of shits that /tg/ has done right. AND HOW!&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Knights]] - Institutionally dour.&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The second wave WOULD show improvements to creativity... If they didn&#039;t use a RPG system as a crutch, among other issues.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beakie]] - When the Spehss mahrens were awesome looking.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chaplain]] - The spiritual leaders of the space marines.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Female Space Marines]]- Records officially decommissioned and terminated by the [[Inquisition]] on the grounds of [[Heresy]], there is nothing here trust us. E-Commissars will blam you from your monitor when attempting to access said heretical records.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine]]- The official game of [[Pauldrons]] (despite the fact that the pauldrons in this game are smaller than they should be)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Space Marines|Tactics/Space Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Guidelines of the Space Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite the considerable amount of hate at the space marines nowadays, [[The World Engine|they can still be awesome.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stormcast Eternals]] (AKA, [[Ground Marines]]), their [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]] equivalent.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Terminator]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Apothecary]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Techmarine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Librarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scout]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Expanded Minor Chapters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine Lexicanum on Space Marines]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://wackycamper.deviantart.com/art/Space-Marine-Commandments-88741651 The Commandments of the Space Marine]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13nM17TV_sU/ Rap song dedicated to the mighty-ass space marines.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzWrDSNN4Y/ Another rap dedicated to the mighty-ass space marines.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzPuK1vib_c Emperor&#039;s quote about the Space Marines in a remix done from If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device glory.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shRHZLheEJI What is to be a space marine, in thrash metal version!]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Femalemini.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:Correction.JPG|Drill Abbots &#039;&#039;&#039;hate&#039;&#039;&#039; him!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Stuffy.jpg|Build a Marine Workshop&lt;br /&gt;
File:Pauldronius.png|[[Pauldron]]ius&lt;br /&gt;
File:Brother Sergeant Aznable.jpg|&#039;&#039;&#039;EEECK!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
image:steelrain.jpg|Steel Rain in action!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Reasonablemarine.png|Don&#039;t fuck with [[Reasonable Marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
Image:LEGO_SpaceMarines_by_Jerac.jpg|Brick by brick we shall conquer.&lt;br /&gt;
File:1285382081001.jpg|Apparently, marines &#039;&#039;&#039;DO&#039;&#039;&#039; in fact have tiny heads.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sperm Marine.jpg|I&#039;m in ur w0mb, fertulizan yo eggz&lt;br /&gt;
File:Amuricuh.jpg|What historians didn&#039;t want you to believe&lt;br /&gt;
File:Yes they can.jpg|[[Skub|A matter of some contention.]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:False.jpg|Taking a page from their fallen brothers.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Primarchs_as_teen_girls.png|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#FF55FF;&amp;quot; color=&amp;quot;pink&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Rule 63]] Primarchs are the most popular girls at [[HS40K]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Gearing up.jpg|A rare glimpse at a Space Marine without his awesome pauldrons on&lt;br /&gt;
File:1294948918986.jpg|Salamander Space Marines training starts at a reasonably young age&lt;br /&gt;
File:Armour of Bulk.png|Space Marines and ridiculous suits of armour go hand in hand.&lt;br /&gt;
File:BruceAstartes.jpg|Brother Campbell brings a world into Imperial compliance.&lt;br /&gt;
File:SpessM.jpg|Indrick Boreale nearly turned Space Marines into the laughing stock of the entire franchise.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angels of Derp.jpg|Space Marines as depicted during the dark ages of GW art (aka 2nd Edition)&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1228559892410.jpg|The scary thing is that this isn&#039;t fan art, seriously, this was an official GW product.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Warhammer 40k space marines we&#039;ll find your mom mother storytellers storytime missing child lost little girl.jpg|Now gather around children as I recount to you the exploits of the Emperor&#039;s chosen...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1207335921499.jpg|The Space Wizards of Warpwarts have mastered the art of profecting the power of the warp through small wooden sticks. How they refrain from breaking them is a mystery.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Horny Marine.gif|&#039;&#039;&#039;Hump the heretic, penetrate the mutant, cum in the alien&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Goodness [[Emperor&#039;s Children|me]]!&#039;&#039;&#039; I didn&#039;t know you loyalists had [[FATAL|it]] in you.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Primaris Space Marines</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:New40KPrimarisArt1.jpg|Right|thumb|Look out Chaos, there&#039;s a new kid on the block.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They were forged for Mankind&#039;s darkest hour, and that hour is upon us&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; - &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[Roboute Guilliman]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; - Unnamed Primaris Officer in the Primaris Codex.&lt;br /&gt;
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Primaris Marines (also known as Ultra-Ultramarines, Supermarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Super Space Marines, Space Space Marines, Biglymarines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, Guillimarines and Marines II: Electric Boogaloo) are the next step forward in Space Marine evolution (Not counting the [[Raptor]] supermarines by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood). [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, faster, stronger, and maybe smarter than all that have come before them. Buckle up boys, its about to get hot in here.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History and Background==&lt;br /&gt;
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against &#039;&#039;hundreds of thousands&#039;&#039; CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least. &lt;br /&gt;
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Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]], our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch&#039;s genetic material that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman&#039;s plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, in BL novel &amp;quot;Dark Imperium&amp;quot; Guilliman calls Primarises &amp;quot;Cawl&#039;s blasphemous hordes&amp;quot;. So much for daddy&#039;s love, er?&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it&#039;s the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it&#039;s got that sweet Maximus style vox grill.  As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don&#039;t talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].&lt;br /&gt;
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]].  As of 8E, this translates to +1T.  Shiny.&lt;br /&gt;
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking and with skull-faced helmets.&lt;br /&gt;
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a &amp;quot;perfected&amp;quot; version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - [Range: 30&amp;quot; Strength: 4 AP: -1 and Rapid Fire] - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.&lt;br /&gt;
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new &amp;quot;Special Issue Boltgun&amp;quot; Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.&lt;br /&gt;
**The Lieutenants get to carry master-crafted automatic versions - only 24&amp;quot; and AP 0, but Assault 2 Damage 2.&lt;br /&gt;
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don&#039;t have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 20. &lt;br /&gt;
**The new gene-seed is as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;Sinew Coils&#039;&#039;&#039; which are turns the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay we may be joking here but it&#039;s basically metallic coils jammed into the muscles that let them contract with extreme force, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Magnificat&#039;&#039;&#039; which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the &#039;&#039;&#039;Immortis Gland&#039;&#039;&#039;, though the information needed to complete it is lost),  and the &#039;&#039;&#039;Belisarian Furnace&#039;&#039;&#039; (because Cawl has a robo-boner for naming things after himself) essentially a &#039;last-stand&#039; organ which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration&lt;br /&gt;
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==Potential Problems==&lt;br /&gt;
*While Primaris Marines are created from the gene-seed of all the Loyalist Primarchs, it is unknown how some of the more extreme genetic quirks of each bloodline will manifest in them. We could see anything from [[Blood Angels]] with cute little Cupid wings to [[Flesh Tearers]] with terrifying vampire fangs to translucent skinned [[Raven Guard]] to even blacker skinned [[Salamanders]] to [[Lamenters]] with greying temples and bags under their eyes(plus a too old for this shit attitude) to [[Black Dragons]] that look like a metal hedgehog with adamantium coated, giant bone spines and  [[Space Wolves]] [[Fur Heresy|with fluffy little tails]]. But then again there&#039;s NO reason to actually expect these modifications to worsen their genetic quirks. They&#039;re marines with new enhancements, not marines with a double dose of gene-seed or anything. It&#039;s probably somewhat more likely to strengthen their resistance to their quirks if anything. It&#039;s all up to whatever GeeDubs wants to do though, so anything is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
**According to Cawl, the Primaris gene-seed is actually even more stable than the standard version, with an estimated deviancy of .001% per generation. So far, it&#039;s at least been stable enough to create a Space Wolves successor that hasn&#039;t immediately devolved into Wulfen.&lt;br /&gt;
***It&#039;s unknown how stable normal marines who have been upgraded are, however.&lt;br /&gt;
* Only chapters with ready access to being supplied will have these. &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Don&#039;t expect Primaris [[Carcharodons]] any time soon.&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Robbie MacNiven, writer of the Carcharodons novel Red Tithe, has revealed that everyone&#039;s favorite space sharks WILL be receiving their own Primaris Marines. PRAISE THE FORGOTTEN ONE.&lt;br /&gt;
*In terms of actual combat experience, these guys are jumping into the deep end as green as an ork&#039;s asscrack. They may be bigger, stronger, faster, and have better armor and weapons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the marines they are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;reinforcing are their seniors by centuries.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; The Dark Imperium novel say that the first batch of Primaris Marines are actually augmented space marines from the days after the Horus Heresy put into stasis and are constantly pestering the whippersnappers with tales of what the Imperium was like 10,000 years ago. Considering chapters that have been reduced to close to extinction are seen as able to rebuild (Invaders, Black Consuls, Celestial Lions) and their service in the 112 year long Indomitus crusade their lack of experience is likely a non issue in most cases.&lt;br /&gt;
**Later stated they mainly consist of Neophytes from various chapters who were drafted into the program, so they are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;utterly green&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; ONLY harshly trained and have little true combat experience compared to most Marines. Think scouts on (extra) steroids.&lt;br /&gt;
*Primaris Marines are probably much harder and more expensive to produce than regular Astartes, especially when their borrowed Custodes lineage is taken into account. There may be entire chapters of them at first, but those numbers may not last long as they will likely be far harder to replenish after heavy casualties, and Primaris chapters probably wouldn&#039;t be able to bounce back from something like Rynn&#039;s World.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] will definitely be interested in them as well, and the possibility of [[Chaos Space Marines]] converted into Chaos Primaris Marines, or even Bill himself converted into a Primaris Marine, should be very worrying to the [[Imperium]]. They&#039;ve supposedly been made resistant to Chaos, but &amp;quot;resistant&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t mean &amp;quot;immune&amp;quot; by a long shot in fact a Noxious Blightbringer is able to effect Primaris in Dark Imperium successfully hurting them and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...&lt;br /&gt;
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn&#039;t help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.&lt;br /&gt;
***Although since Cawl claims that the Primaris gene-seed is more stable than the standard gene-seed, it might be able to resist the influence of chaos, especially if Cawl&#039;s claims that they are resistant to chaos is true.&lt;br /&gt;
***Plus since we don&#039;t know why the [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|lost legions]] where destroyed, there could be nothing wrong with their gene-seed.&lt;br /&gt;
****Although since even the traitor legions are cursed regularly in more civilized worlds that can handle the concept of chaos (and Horus in every Imperial world as basically the satan figure), what the lost legions did or was corrupted by must have been unthinkably horrible that even the Emperor forced a silence on the matter. With Cawl thinking he got the chaos part down, the lost legion geneseed might bite him in the ass.&lt;br /&gt;
*While it&#039;s possible that Cawl was able to make incremental changes to the Astartes standard wargear on his own within the span of 10,000 years, the introduction of Grav-tanks (which should be impossible to reproduce given how rare they are) is a bit too unbelievable. On the other hand, Cawl is considered by the rest of the AdMech to be at the absolute limit of what they consider to be orthodoxy, though this has the potential to cause its own problems - especially given Cawl&#039;s fondness of xenos technology and the implementation thereof (with the Ynnari allied with the Imperium, it&#039;s one step away from asking an Aeldari for help with making Grav-tanks and three steps from reverse engineering [[Falcon|Craftworlder]] or [[Raider|Commorite]] Grav-tanks, and then there&#039;s the Tau and the Necrons...). That being said, there were already grav-tanks during the heresy era, and we all know Cawl is &#039;innovative&#039;, so it&#039;s not too far out of the ballpark.&lt;br /&gt;
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines.  Orks would likely find them entertaining to fight and Tyranids would just see them as more biomass to eat.  Given Fabius&#039; interest in them, it&#039;s likely [[Haemonculus|Fabius&#039; Drukhari mentors]] will also find interest in them, as will [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot scientist]].  Fortunately this could only benefit the Ynnari-Imperium alliance, who will most likely be the most accepting of it.  There&#039;s no reason the Tau will see any problems, though if a kroot managed to eat a dead Primaris that could lead to some developments.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Forces of the Primaris Marines==&lt;br /&gt;
Primaris Marines don&#039;t get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat.  Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Captain:&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even &#039;&#039;MOAR&#039;&#039; egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They&#039;re armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the standard Mark X power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There&#039;s also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Librarian:&#039;&#039;&#039; Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Chaplain:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not officially announced yet, but based on promo photos they wear black robes as though they&#039;re aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage. As many of /tg/ have pointed out, [[Original character, do not steal|the Primaris Chaplain looks a lot like Reaper from]] [[Blizzard|Blizzard Entertainment&#039;s]] game Overwatch, ironically meaning this time [[Games Workshop|GWs]] is ripping off Blizzard, instead of the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Lieutenants:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Ancients:&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard&#039;s Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he&#039;s been upgraded. In case you were wondering, &amp;quot;Ancient&amp;quot; is a corruption of the rank of &amp;quot;Ensign&amp;quot; which was a term for an army&#039;s flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Apothecary:&#039;&#039;&#039; A specialization of Primaris Marine only seen so far in artwork and recent promo photos. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;cyberdong&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; mechadendrite on the Apothecary&#039;s back.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Techmarine:&#039;&#039;&#039; One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That&#039;s about all we know.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Reiver|Reivers:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It&#039;s time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Rievers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they&#039;re nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]]. They , an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain&#039;s Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they&#039;re equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Intercessors are the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;standard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they&#039;re armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they&#039;re even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Inceptors:&#039;&#039;&#039; Inceptors are the &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Assault Marines]] equivalent&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors&#039; focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don&#039;t get it in your head that their melee ability is &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;, though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Hellblasters:&#039;&#039;&#039; Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there&#039;s nothing special about them as compared to &amp;quot;regular&amp;quot; Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it&#039;s not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they&#039;re at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnaught status, we&#039;ll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they&#039;re so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn&#039;t be saved are made dread-ful. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody&#039;s entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can&#039;t go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking &#039;&#039;Primarchs.&#039;&#039; There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere including on its rear and sides, put a TL lascannon in the hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Overlord:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Overlord is the Primaris exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them but it seems they are &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;ECKS BAWKS HUEG&#039;&#039;&#039;, making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they&#039;re considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|&#039;borrowed&#039;]] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly ubiquitous now, so defensively, that might not be as impressive as it looks. However, so far they seem to have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a &amp;quot;basically Kraken&amp;quot; Bolter with +6&amp;quot; range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6&amp;quot; range and -1 AP, and a half-range one-handed Assault Heavy Bolter. Defensively, so far they only have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain and Inceptors can use it).  Finally, their squads don&#039;t mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a 5 model maximum (including the Sarge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they&#039;re far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 30&amp;quot; is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren&#039;t financial in origin they can&#039;t take &#039;&#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039;&#039; transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you&#039;re not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game and even then it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can&#039;t carry too many). They have a special transport called Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]) and the Overlord (which is basically a giant Thunderhawk), but beside that they have no choice but to go footslogging.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
Generally speaking, the idea of SPACE space marines mostly serves to downplay all the currently existing fluff of space marines. Why is it necessary to have GENETICALLY MODIFIED genetically modified SUPER super soldiers? The entire thing makes space marines look useless and obsolete. Which they kind of are, given the technology of the era. But they are generally portrayed in fluff as being the pinnacle of human fighting potential. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Rules Datasheets===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside.  Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png&lt;br /&gt;
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter&lt;br /&gt;
File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the Juggernaut BITCH!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned&lt;br /&gt;
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus|Tarkus!]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren&#039;t they beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing! Youjo Senki inspiration?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire &#039;&#039;squad&#039;&#039; of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns. God help us all.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Reivers.jpg|Boo, assholes!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Looks great, but then you realize that for a 100 year old Space Marine, this guy looks super old. [[Grimdark|I guess being a battle psyker sucks that hard]]. Or ya know, that&#039;s an old librarian who received an upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Raven 1.JPG|&amp;quot;[[Roboute Guilliman|Lord Commander]],the batch 3789-Alpha is missing! Just after the visit of...&amp;quot; &amp;quot;[[Just as Planned|I know.]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aggressors.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chap&amp;amp;apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|A less grainy picture of the Chaplain&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|A less grainy picture of the Apothicary&lt;br /&gt;
File:Totally_Not_Reaper.jpg|Why does this look so- [http://overwatch.wikia.com/wiki/Reaper oh for fucks sake GWs].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They were forged for Mankind&#039;s darkest hour, and that hour is upon us&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; - &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[Roboute Guilliman]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; - Unnamed Primaris Officer in the Primaris Codex.&lt;br /&gt;
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Primaris Marines (also known as Ultra-Ultramarines, Supermarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Super Space Marines, Space Space Marines, Biglymarines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, Guillimarines and Marines II: Electric Boogaloo) are the next step forward in Space Marine evolution (Not counting the [[Raptor]] supermarines by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood). [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, faster, stronger, and maybe smarter than all that have come before them. Buckle up boys, its about to get hot in here.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History and Background==&lt;br /&gt;
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against &#039;&#039;hundreds of thousands&#039;&#039; CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least. &lt;br /&gt;
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Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]], our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch&#039;s genetic material that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman&#039;s plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, in BL novel &amp;quot;Dark Imperium&amp;quot; Guilliman calls Primarises &amp;quot;Cawl&#039;s blasphemous hordes&amp;quot;. So much for daddy&#039;s love, er?&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it&#039;s the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it&#039;s got that sweet Maximus style vox grill.  As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don&#039;t talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].&lt;br /&gt;
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]].  As of 8E, this translates to +1T.  Shiny.&lt;br /&gt;
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking and with skull-faced helmets.&lt;br /&gt;
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a &amp;quot;perfected&amp;quot; version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - [Range: 30&amp;quot; Strength: 4 AP: -1 and Rapid Fire] - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.&lt;br /&gt;
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new &amp;quot;Special Issue Boltgun&amp;quot; Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.&lt;br /&gt;
**The Lieutenants get to carry master-crafted automatic versions - only 24&amp;quot; and AP 0, but Assault 2 Damage 2.&lt;br /&gt;
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don&#039;t have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 20. &lt;br /&gt;
**The new gene-seed is as follows: &#039;&#039;&#039;Sinew Coils&#039;&#039;&#039; which are turns the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay we may be joking here but it&#039;s basically metallic coils jammed into the muscles that let them contract with extreme force, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Magnificat&#039;&#039;&#039; which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the &#039;&#039;&#039;Immortis Gland&#039;&#039;&#039;, though the information needed to complete it is lost),  and the &#039;&#039;&#039;Belisarian Furnace&#039;&#039;&#039; (because Cawl has a robo-boner for naming things after himself) essentially a &#039;last-stand&#039; organ which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration&lt;br /&gt;
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==Potential Problems==&lt;br /&gt;
*While Primaris Marines are created from the gene-seed of all the Loyalist Primarchs, it is unknown how some of the more extreme genetic quirks of each bloodline will manifest in them. We could see anything from [[Blood Angels]] with cute little Cupid wings to [[Flesh Tearers]] with terrifying vampire fangs to translucent skinned [[Raven Guard]] to even blacker skinned [[Salamanders]] to [[Lamenters]] with greying temples and bags under their eyes(plus a too old for this shit attitude) to [[Black Dragons]] that look like a metal hedgehog with adamantium coated, giant bone spines and  [[Space Wolves]] [[Fur Heresy|with fluffy little tails]]. But then again there&#039;s NO reason to actually expect these modifications to worsen their genetic quirks. They&#039;re marines with new enhancements, not marines with a double dose of gene-seed or anything. It&#039;s probably somewhat more likely to strengthen their resistance to their quirks if anything. It&#039;s all up to whatever GeeDubs wants to do though, so anything is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
**According to Cawl, the Primaris gene-seed is actually even more stable than the standard version, with an estimated deviancy of .001% per generation. So far, it&#039;s at least been stable enough to create a Space Wolves successor that hasn&#039;t immediately devolved into Wulfen.&lt;br /&gt;
***It&#039;s unknown how stable normal marines who have been upgraded are, however.&lt;br /&gt;
* Only chapters with ready access to being supplied will have these. &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Don&#039;t expect Primaris [[Carcharodons]] any time soon.&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Robbie MacNiven, writer of the Carcharodons novel Red Tithe, has revealed that everyone&#039;s favorite space sharks WILL be receiving their own Primaris Marines. PRAISE THE FORGOTTEN ONE.&lt;br /&gt;
*In terms of actual combat experience, these guys are jumping into the deep end as green as an ork&#039;s asscrack. They may be bigger, stronger, faster, and have better armor and weapons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the marines they are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;reinforcing are their seniors by centuries.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; The Dark Imperium novel say that the first batch of Primaris Marines are actually augmented space marines from the days after the Horus Heresy put into stasis and are constantly pestering the whippersnappers with tales of what the Imperium was like 10,000 years ago. Considering chapters that have been reduced to close to extinction are seen as able to rebuild (Invaders, Black Consuls, Celestial Lions) and their service in the 112 year long Indomitus crusade their lack of experience is likely a non issue in most cases.&lt;br /&gt;
**Later stated they mainly consist of Neophytes from various chapters who were drafted into the program, so they are &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;utterly green&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; ONLY harshly trained and have little true combat experience compared to most Marines. Think scouts on (extra) steroids.&lt;br /&gt;
*Primaris Marines are probably much harder and more expensive to produce than regular Astartes, especially when their borrowed Custodes lineage is taken into account. There may be entire chapters of them at first, but those numbers may not last long as they will likely be far harder to replenish after heavy casualties, and Primaris chapters probably wouldn&#039;t be able to bounce back from something like Rynn&#039;s World.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] will definitely be interested in them as well, and the possibility of [[Chaos Space Marines]] converted into Chaos Primaris Marines, or even Bill himself converted into a Primaris Marine, should be very worrying to the [[Imperium]]. They&#039;ve supposedly been made resistant to Chaos, but &amp;quot;resistant&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t mean &amp;quot;immune&amp;quot; by a long shot in fact a Noxious Blightbringer is able to effect Primaris in Dark Imperium successfully hurting them and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...&lt;br /&gt;
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn&#039;t help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.&lt;br /&gt;
***Although since Cawl claims that the Primaris gene-seed is more stable than the standard gene-seed, it might be able to resist the influence of chaos, especially if Cawl&#039;s claims that they are resistant to chaos is true.&lt;br /&gt;
***Plus since we don&#039;t know why the [[First Founding#Two Unknown Legions|lost legions]] where destroyed, there could be nothing wrong with their gene-seed.&lt;br /&gt;
****Although since even the traitor legions are cursed regularly in more civilized worlds that can handle the concept of chaos (and Horus in every Imperial world as basically the satan figure), what the lost legions did or was corrupted by must have been unthinkably horrible that even the Emperor forced a silence on the matter. With Cawl thinking he got the chaos part down, the lost legion geneseed might bite him in the ass.&lt;br /&gt;
*While it&#039;s possible that Cawl was able to make incremental changes to the Astartes standard wargear on his own within the span of 10,000 years, the introduction of Grav-tanks (which should be impossible to reproduce given how rare they are) is a bit too unbelievable. On the other hand, Cawl is considered by the rest of the AdMech to be at the absolute limit of what they consider to be orthodoxy, though this has the potential to cause its own problems - especially given Cawl&#039;s fondness of xenos technology and the implementation thereof (with the Ynnari allied with the Imperium, it&#039;s one step away from asking an Aeldari for help with making Grav-tanks and three steps from reverse engineering [[Falcon|Craftworlder]] or [[Raider|Commorite]] Grav-tanks, and then there&#039;s the Tau and the Necrons...). That being said, there were already grav-tanks during the heresy era, and we all know Cawl is &#039;innovative&#039;, so it&#039;s not too far out of the ballpark.&lt;br /&gt;
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines.  Orks would likely find them entertaining to fight and Tyranids would just see them as more biomass to eat.  Given Fabius&#039; interest in them, it&#039;s likely [[Haemonculus|Fabius&#039; Drukhari mentors]] will also find interest in them, as will [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot scientist]].  Fortunately this could only benefit the Ynnari-Imperium alliance, who will most likely be the most accepting of it.  There&#039;s no reason the Tau will see any problems, though if a kroot managed to eat a dead Primaris that could lead to some developments.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Forces of the Primaris Marines==&lt;br /&gt;
Primaris Marines don&#039;t get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat.  Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Captain:&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even &#039;&#039;MOAR&#039;&#039; egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They&#039;re armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the standard Mark X power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There&#039;s also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Librarian:&#039;&#039;&#039; Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Chaplain:&#039;&#039;&#039; Not officially announced yet, but based on promo photos they wear black robes as though they&#039;re aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage. As many of /tg/ have pointed out, [[Original character, do not steal|the Primaris Chaplain looks a lot like Reaper from]] [[Blizzard|Blizzard Entertainment&#039;s]] game Overwatch, ironically meaning this time [[Games Workshop|GWs]] is ripping off Blizzard, instead of the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Lieutenants:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Ancients:&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard&#039;s Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he&#039;s been upgraded. In case you were wondering, &amp;quot;Ancient&amp;quot; is a corruption of the rank of &amp;quot;Ensign&amp;quot; which was a term for an army&#039;s flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Apothecary:&#039;&#039;&#039; A specialization of Primaris Marine only seen so far in artwork and recent promo photos. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;cyberdong&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; mechadendrite on the Apothecary&#039;s back.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Techmarine:&#039;&#039;&#039; One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That&#039;s about all we know.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Reiver|Reivers:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It&#039;s time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Rievers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they&#039;re nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]]. They , an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain&#039;s Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they&#039;re equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Intercessors are the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;standard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they&#039;re armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they&#039;re even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Inceptors:&#039;&#039;&#039; Inceptors are the &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Assault Marines]] equivalent&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors&#039; focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don&#039;t get it in your head that their melee ability is &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;, though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Hellblasters:&#039;&#039;&#039; Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there&#039;s nothing special about them as compared to &amp;quot;regular&amp;quot; Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it&#039;s not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they&#039;re at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnaught status, we&#039;ll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they&#039;re so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn&#039;t be saved are made dread-ful. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody&#039;s entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can&#039;t go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking &#039;&#039;Primarchs.&#039;&#039; There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere including on its rear and sides, put a TL lascannon in the hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Overlord:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Overlord is the Primaris exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them but it seems they are &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;ECKS BAWKS HUEG&#039;&#039;&#039;, making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they&#039;re considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|&#039;borrowed&#039;]] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly ubiquitous now, so defensively, that might not be as impressive as it looks. However, so far they seem to have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a &amp;quot;basically Kraken&amp;quot; Bolter with +6&amp;quot; range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6&amp;quot; range and -1 AP, and a half-range one-handed Assault Heavy Bolter. Defensively, so far they only have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain and Inceptors can use it).  Finally, their squads don&#039;t mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.&lt;br /&gt;
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All the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a 5 model maximum (including the Sarge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they&#039;re far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 30&amp;quot; is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren&#039;t financial in origin they can&#039;t take &#039;&#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039;&#039; transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you&#039;re not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game and even then it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can&#039;t carry too many). They have a special transport called Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]) and the Overlord (which is basically a giant Thunderhawk), but beside that they have no choice but to go footslogging.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
Generally speaking, the idea of SPACE space marines mostly serves to downplay all the currently existing fluff of space marines. Why is it necessary to have GENETICALLY MODIFIED genetically modified SUPER super soldiers? The entire thing makes space marines look useless and obsolete. Which they kind of are, given the technology of the era. But they are generally portrayed in fluff as being the pinnacle of human fighting potential. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Rules Datasheets===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside.  Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png&lt;br /&gt;
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter&lt;br /&gt;
File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the Juggernaut BITCH!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned&lt;br /&gt;
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus|Tarkus!]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren&#039;t they beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing! Youjo Senki inspiration?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire &#039;&#039;squad&#039;&#039; of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns. God help us all.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Reivers.jpg|Boo, assholes!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Looks great, but then you realize that for a 100 year old Space Marine, this guy looks super old. [[Grimdark|I guess being a battle psyker sucks that hard]]. Or ya know, that&#039;s an old librarian who received an upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Blood Raven 1.JPG|&amp;quot;[[Roboute Guilliman|Lord Commander]],the batch 3789-Alpha is missing! Just after the visit of...&amp;quot; &amp;quot;[[Just as Planned|I know.]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aggressors.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chap&amp;amp;apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|A less grainy picture of the Chaplain&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|A less grainy picture of the Apothicary&lt;br /&gt;
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