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Cathay

2021-09-18T11:45:58Z

2406:3400:20F:FFC0:196D:F00B:332:1711:

[[File:Cathay-Warhammer-Fantasy-David-Gallagher.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Until recently, this was the only official picture we had of anyone from Cathay.]]
{{Topquote|Goddamn <s>Mongorians</s> Kurgans! Stop tearing down my shitty warr''!|What the Cathayans have to say roughly 12 times every hour or so}}

'''Cathay''' is the uninspired name for the analogue to [[China]] in the [[Warhammer Fantasy]] universe. That said, it is at least marginally more inspired than their name for the Japan analogue (and only because [[Nippon]] is a better known name for Japan than Cathay is for China in Europe).

[https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-iii-faq/ THEY'RE GONNA BE IN TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER 3]

==Description==
The country is huge (as in the case with a certain real-world country), much bigger than the Empire and the other western lands. To the north is the <s>Mongolian steppes</s> [[Eastern Steppes]] and regions of chaos, which are held at bay by the huge-ass Great <s>Wall</s> Bastion of <s>China</s> Cathay which prevents the hordes from pillaging. Why the Empire never took this up themselves isn't explained.

To the west is the Mountains of Mourn, the [[warpstone]] deserts and the great maw. Incidentally you can blame the Cathayans for the Great Maw’s existence as one of the previous Dragon Emperors had his celestial wizards summon the thing to punish the Ogres for eating some of his citizens. To the south is a mysterious jungle where the lost city of the old ones is. Eastwards is the sea, with Nippon and the [[Lost Isles of Elithis]].

Of course because such a great place can't be well explored due to GW's anal refusal to be cool, a more detailed look at Cathay is currently unavailable.

==The great tragedy...==
[[Games Workshop]] could probably make some moolah in a way that would not involve fucking over existing canon or jacking up prices by introducing a Cathay army. Even some [[Dogs of War]] mercenaries that were Cathayan who ended up in the Europe analogue could be nice. Plenty of cool Chinese warrior types to build on.

But they don't.

And that's terrible.

They don't do this awesome thing for three reasons: Games Workshop gives little attention to Fantasy when the [[Space Marines]] haven't had their yearly codex update; when they do do fantasy they are too busy doing [[Orcs & Goblins|Orcs]]/Empire/Undead/[[Chaos]] again; and they are too much the short sighted fools to invest time, money and resources in making something new when they can just increase existing prices again.

==Now why would Cathay be a fabulous idea to have as an army==
This would be a good idea because the Cathayans, according to the WoC entry in the BRB at any rate, have [[awesome|steam punk clockwork terracotta automaton warriors]] (again, ripped straight from real world China). Who doesn't want to have something like THAT in their army. Just as [[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)|The Empire]] and [[Kislev]] have to deal with Chaotic Norsemen attacking, Cathay constantly has to deal with incursions from the Hung, who are nomadic, Chaos worshipping, steppe people, who are rather well endowed. Furthermore they have Warrior Monkeys, gunpowder weapons, and Repeating Crossbows which again ripped straight out of Chinese mythology and real-life, and yet for some reason have no [[Flamer|Flamethrowers]]...

They also have giant stone guardian dogs and huge dragons and a distinct subspecies of intelligent one-horned ogre and mighty kung-fu warriors and, and....oh the list goes on!

==Your state religion is what now? And who rules you?==
The worship of [[Tzeentch]] (they call him Chi'an Chi or Lord Tsien-Tsien of the Invisible Empire in older books, which, incidentally, the Kurgan and Hung name for him) is an officially recognized religion there. In Cathay he is described as Lord of the Chorus of 15 devils, and ruler over the five elemental masters (elementals of wood, fire, air, earth and water). He is described as living in a mystical pagoda that sits atop the nether hells where the souls of those who fail him are imprisoned, and his pagoda is decorated with chrysanthemums and lotuses on the lower levels and the bones of his victims and those who failed him on the upper levels. And if that wasn’t enough they let Hung Chaos Marauders sell their shit in Weijin. Which is odd because the Hung are normally so duplicitous that even the Norse and Kurgan don't want to deal with them very often.

They also have a Dragon for an Emperor (who usually takes a human form, and may or may not actually just be a human). (The Mummy 3's Dragon Emperor? Scheming, sorcerous, transforms into a dragon... ) And are mainly based on Ming to Qing era China.

There is a [[Sun Wukong]] figure that seized some territory and has a [[Clan Eshin]] warlord as an advisor and a trade deal with Clan Eshin.

In Vampire Slayer, Felix sees a statue of a four armed monkey god, and thinks it is from Cathay.

In the novel Beasts in Velvet, and the short story Red Thirst there is a Cathayan character named Dien Ch'ing(狄恩青). He is secretly a Tzeenchian cultist whom impersonated a Cathayan ambassador (which he had murdered and took the name from). He is also a celestial wizard and is capable of using the classic five elemental magic (which are Tzeetch demons who disguised as those elements). From the same novel, it also tells the story of how when the monkey king was but a young prince he was able to trick the 5 elemental demons into fighting one another.

In the [[Nagash]]'s novel, it is mentioned that Neferata had given some of her vampire potion to erase the debt Lahmia garnered with the Cathayans when her dad bought a shitload of gunpowder weapons from them. The man she gave the potion to Prince Xian Ha Feng, one of the Dragon Emperor's son sent to negotiate with Lahmia, not only drank the potion, but also bought some of it back to Cathay where the vampire corruption soon spread. With enough immortal bloodsuckers (and probably some of [[Ushoran]]'s spies), Xian started a civil war against his father. This angers the Dragon Emperor so much that he ordered to close their borders with ALL foreigners. The Dragon Emperor apparently died in a freak accident some time after the civil war according to Ushoran's spies (perhaps has to to with the monkey king?) and a new Emperor was enthrone because of this. Under this "new Emperor"'s rule, the trade with the Nekeharan has opened once again because the new Emperor cares little about the [[Nehekhara|Nehekharans]], also shiny bibs and more Black Lotus wine YEAAAA! Although Prince Xian Ha Feng was never heard of after this, the vampire corruption remains still, to the point they have now even seized a few seats in the celestial court, where they've done nothing but bicker at their Tzeentch worshiping rivals for powers. Their bloodline is named [[Jade-Blooded]], but is considered non-canon or loose canon due to it was introduced in Warhammer RPG before it the novel was written, or GW just doesn't care enough to Cathay.

They also worship the same lazily named Orange Simca deity (basically Warhammer’s version of Buddha) as [[Nippon]] as according to GW many Asians follow that religion, not just Nippon.

==Recent events==
According to the eight ed BRB, the Kurgans once mounted a massive raid on Cathay's Great Bastion. Which is funny, because Kurgans are basically Chaos-Turko Slavs to the Norscan's Chaos Vikings.
In the [[End Times|end times]], they are invaded by Chaos and [[skaven]]. Remarkably, the dragon emperor drives out the skaven and stalemates the forces of chaos, but ultimately loses to [[Grimgor Ironhide|Grimgor's]] massive WAAAGH! The ruins of cathay become the stage for an endless battle between the orcs and the remaining forces of chaos. Grimgor himself gets teleported away as he had become Incarnate of Beasts, and when the last effort to save the world fails, Cathay is destroyed along with the rest of the planet, revealed in [[Age of Sigmar]] to have been called Mallus.

==Dammit, Forge World==
''[[Tamurkhan: Throne of Chaos]]'', a book from [[Forge World|Forge World's]] fantasy line, quite surprisingly contains a battle scene where the forces of Cathay are involved. A chaos sorcerer dupes a Beastman army into attacking the Tower of Ashshair, a Cathayan watchtower outpost at the edge of the [[Ogre Kingdoms]] which it uses to scry on the Old World. Its defenders included fancy bronze cannon that shoot harpoons, "crow-men", stone "temple dogs", elite warriors with back-banners and "thousand-folded" swords, and "Dragon-blooded Shugengan" who wield elemental magics (fire, water, earth, air and wood). In other words, your usual collection of oriental cliches, [[Derp|mostly Japanese]]. And sadly, it's likely the closest thing we'll get to an official Cathay army list along with the mention of them having elementals under their control in the Vampire Genevieve books.

But then, things get interesting when the Tower's garrison started to get overwhelmed by the [[Beastmen]]'s numbers. The Tower turns the tide by dropping a frikking' [[Warhammer_Magic#Celestial: Wind of Azyr, Lore of the Heavens |Comet of Casandora]] into the horde, then starts sending "strange creatures of living stone" that can swim through the ground and minotaur-suplexing "living statues of onyx" to beat the shit out of the survivors. So at least we know that Cathay isn't to be messed with in the Warhammer world.

==[[Total War: WARHAMMER|Total Warhammer 3 AKA: "HOLY SHIT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING FOR CATHAY"]]==
[[File:Total-war-cathay trailer map.png|thumb|400 px|A new challenger appear!]]

During announcement of Total Warhammer 3 CA confirmed that Cathay will be one of the 6 playable factions. They've been working with GW in bringing the faction to life and making them one of the core races in the game. This is also great news for anyone hoping for Cathay in [[Warhammer: The Old World]]. More info will come soon, but this minor faction is finally getting the fleshing out it deserves. Between them and [[Kislev]], this is a lore [[grognard]]'s wet dream.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=033FWxL22A0 With the Reveal trailer], [https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-grand-cathay-faq/ the first CA FAQ] [https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/14/watch-grand-cathay-come-to-life-in-an-epic-collaboration-for-total-war-warhammer-iii/ and GW discussion on Cathay's design + background] we finally get our first proper looks at Cathay.

Front and centre is [[Miao Ying]], daughter of the Celestial Dragon and his wife, and commander of the Northern Bastion (meaning that when Sayl attacked the wall it was her forces that drove him off). She's a dragon that can take a human form like her parents and its been shown that the Celestial Dragon spends his time in the Celestial city and overseeing Cathay while his children take direct control of different provinces (like a certain [[Emperor of Mankind|golden giant]] and his [[Primarch|kids]]) as her brother Zhao Ming commands the western province and will be the other playable lord.

In the trailer we see rocket batteries, war balloons and those suplexing statues from [[Tamurkhan: Throne of Chaos|the Tamurkhan book]], in addition to regular human infantry and some lady earth bending. To help establish Cathay's play style GW themselves made rules for each unit and for the army (using 8th edition) to aid CA understand how Cathay should act in game. [[Rage|Yes there are currently rules for 8th edition Cathay and GW are just sitting on them and not releasing them.]]

An interesting thing to note is that both [[Miao Ying]] and [[Zhao Ming]] seem to be based off the Four Guardians from Chinese mythology, which are four mythical animals/guardians that appear in the Chinese constellation and are associated with elements and cardinal points.

Zhao is The White Iron Dragon and the ruler of the Western province and is based off of the White Tiger of the West who is associated with metal (which is an element according to the ancient Chinese) and Miao is the Black Storm Dragon and ruler of the Northern province which would make her based on the Black Tortoise of the North who is associated with Water.

This also should tell us a little about the presumably other two dragon siblings, as one would be the Red Fire Dragon of the South (based on the Vermilion bird of the South) and the other would be the Blue Forest Dragon of East (based on the...Blue dragon of the East).

== Gallery ==
Originally the only images we've had of Cathay and it's people were a single picture in the Warhammer rule books and from a White Dwarf article where they showed off somebody's converted army. Suffice to say the converter did a great job, and the pictures are included below. Later on [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]] and [[Total War: Warhammer]] had their own stabs at what Cathay should look at.
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File:WFRP 4th-Yabo Chao.png|Yabo Chao, an ambassador from Cathay in [[Altdorf]].
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== Links ==
*[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Redi9cZJ5iLVNoQWR2MVBQWms/view Cathay fandex]
*[[Warhammer Army Project/Cathay/8th|Another Cathay fandex]]

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Cyberpunk 2020

2021-09-18T11:39:30Z

2406:3400:20F:FFC0:196D:F00B:332:1711: /* Cyberpunk 2077 */

'''Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0.''' or '''CP 2020''' is a role-playing game published by [[R. Talsorian]] Games (also famous for various games based on [[Teenagers from Outer Space (role-playing game)|Japanese anime]] and [[Mekton|mecha]]) in 1990. It was the second edition of R. Talsorian's original '''Cyberpunk''' game (later known as '''Cyberpunk 2013''') and was originally succeeded by '''[[Cyberpunk v3]]''', also known as '''Cyberpunk 203X''', in 2005, before 3.0 was deemed to be non-canonical, with '''Cyberpunk RED''' taking it's place as the successor. The '''Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0.''' core rule book was re-released in 1993 with some revisions, including new artwork taken from the Italian edition of the game.

There was also a spin-off called '''Cybergeneration''', originally published as a supplement to CP2020 in 1993, then as a stand-alone game in 1995. In Cybergeneration players played teenagers with super-powers which they have developed as a result of infection by a nanite-based disease called the "Carbon Virus".

== Style ==
''CP2020'' is a [[cyberpunk]] genre game inspired by the works of William Gibson and others and films such as Ridley Scott's ''Blade Runner''. The game was set in the 2020 (2013 in the original version), when corporations rule the world, the USA has fractured and most of the population have been left to fend for themselves on the mean, dirty streets in the shadows of the glittering corporate towers. The philosophy of the game is summed up in 'The Rules' (not the actual rules), attributed to someone called 'Ripperjack', on page 4:

*'''1) Style Over Substance'''
*'''2) Attitude is Everything'''
*'''3) Always take it to the Edge'''
*'''4) Break the Rules.'''

'The Edge' is where the characters are meant to exist and operate, and so they are called Edgerunners. Scenarios usually involve the characters getting mixed up in some business which is either legal but deeply unethical, not strictly legal, or downright illegal. Ask no questions and you'll be told no lies. Violence and mortal danger are central elements to ''Cyberpunk'' adventures. Being a cyberpunk game, there are lots of disturbing concepts thrown into the mix, such as artificial intelligences, digital copies of people's personalities (trapped on corporate mainframes or loose in the internet), genetically engineered bio-weapons, human cloning, body-snatching and organ-harvesting, and [[Iron Hands|individuals willingly replacing healthy body parts with cybernetic equivalents just to make themselves better computer hackers or killers.]]

In fact, it is plainly assumed that characters will have cybernetic 'enhancements', since the rules for them are dealt with under character creation. There is a huge variety of cybernetic options, including such gems as the Mr Studd Sexual Implant ("All night, every night, and she'll never know"). There's also the Cybersnake, a weapon that you can install in "any orifice of at least one inch", failing to define exactly one inch ''what''. Unlike its main contemporary rival [[Shadowrun]] CP2020 does not cross over into fantasy, superheroic or high-science fiction genres (with the exception of Cybergeneration).

As an aside, the R Talsorian writers loved to give characters names that were some combination of "Jack", "Ripper" or "Hand". The ultimate ''CP 2020'' character would be called Jack Ripperhand.

== Gameplay ==
Each of the three editions used a similar rules system with some significant differences. The ''CP2020'' ruleset is known as the ''Interlock'' system, whereas the third edition uses the ''Fuzion'' system.

In ''CP2020/Interlock'', each character has a set of statistics: Intelligence (INT), Reflexes (REF), Cool (CL), Technical Ability (TECH), Luck (LK), Attractiveness (ATT), Movement Allowance (MA) and Empathy (EMP). Stats have a minimum value of two and a natural maximum of 10, with certain cyberware, implants and bioware capable of boosting certain stats above 10. Stat scores could be generated by several methods: the 'random' method of rolling 9D10 for a number of points, which are then assigned to the stats; the 'quick' method of rolling a D10 nine times, ignoring rolls of a 1, and assigning the scores as desired; and the 'cinematic' method whereby the Referee (the Game Master) decides how many points to give the players to spend on their stats.

Characters then have to choose a Role (a character class). Each role has a list of ten core skills, including a 'special ability' unique to that class. They have 40 points to assign to those skills, to a maximum skill level of 10. A player could take all ten skills to level four, or just four of them to level 10, or anywhere in between. A character's level in their special ability indicates their place in the pecking order for their profession, and therefore how much money they start with. After that, each character gets a further number of points, equal to the sum of their INT and REF scores, to spend on 'pick-up skills' not on their core list. This is where most characters get skills like Drive or Swim, or combat skills if they don't have any on their core list. This is also the first indication of which stats are most important in the game.

The character roles and their corresponding special abilities are:

*'''Aerojock''' (Aircraft Sense) - Pilot.
*'''Con Man''' (Con) - Tricking people into giving you their money instead of stealing it.
*'''Cop''' (Authority) - [[Judge Dredd|YOU ARE THE LAW]].
*'''Corporate''' (Resources) - You are The Man. Even if you're a woman.
*'''Covert Specialist''' (Combat Sneak) - For someone who wants to be sneaky when they're not shooting people.
*'''Dancer/Prostitute''' (Vamp) - Selling yourself.
*'''Divemaster''' (Aquatic Sense) - [[Wat|For those who want to spend all their time underwater]].
*'''Fixers''' (Streetdeal) - Gun-runnin', drug-dealin', product-fencin' ne'er-do-wells.
*'''Media''' (Credibility) - The brave and crazy sons of bitches who get in the heat of things to report on them.
*'''Medtechies''' (Med Tech) - [[Team Fortress 2|MEDIC]]!
*'''Netrunner''' (Interface) - Hackers. Playing one will have the rest of the party hate you because once you're Nethacking there's nothing they can do.
*'''Nomads''' (Family) - Playing Mad Max is fun, but sometimes you just want to get beyond Thunderdome.
*'''PA Trooper''' (APCA Combat Sense) - For those who ust want to shoot people up while wearing a giant suit of power armour.
*'''Private Investigator''' (Research) - Finding things that might not want to be found.
*'''Prowler''' (Sneak) - [[Rogue|Thief]].
*'''Rockerboy''' (Charismatic Leadership) - What rockers and punks all over the world wish they are.
*'''Runner''' (Vehicle Zen) - Drivers.
*'''Scavenger''' (Scrounge) - Finding ways to use trash.
*'''Solo''' (Combat Sense) - For those who just want to shoot people up.
*'''Spy''' (Chameleon) - A spy, but not the [[James Bond]] kind.
*'''Subjock''' (Sub Tactics) - Submersible pilot.
*'''Techie''' (Jury Rig) - All that tech needs maintenance.

All skills are linked to a stat. Tasks are resolved by rolling a D10, adding your skill level and stat score plus any positive or negative modifiers for the situation, and trying to beat a difficulty number for the task (usually a multiple of five). A roll of a one on the D10 is an automatic failure, with a roll on the mishap (fumble) table to see if something bad happens to you. A roll of a 10 is an [[exploding die]]: You roll the dice again (ones are not automatic failures this time) and add the score to that of the first die. A second roll of a 10 means another re-roll. If you roll enough tens in a row you can succeed at any difficulty of task. Skills which the player has no points in receive a -3 modifier.

Combat starts with everyone rolling D10 plus their reflexes for initiative. Solos add their Combat Sense ability to the roll as well, which makes them far more powerful in combat than any other role. Shooting is a task like any other, although there are special rules for suppressing fire (hosing down an area) and some unusual weapons. Hand-to-hand combat is an opposed roll between the two enemies. Rounds are three seconds long, but characters can take multiple actions at a cumulative -3 modifier for every action after the first.

Weapon damage is rated as a number of D6s or D10s to roll, often plus or minus a few points. Armour and cover have a Stopping Power (SP) number, which is subtracted from weapon damage. Each character has a Body Type Modifier (BTM) from 0 to -5 or more based on their BOD. BTM is applied to damage that gets through cover and armour, but cannot reduce the damage to less than one.

Body locations are used for hits (so make sure you wear leg armour) which is either determined randomly or by a called shot to a location (with a corresponding penalty to hit). However, while locations have their own SP, damage is applied to a single wound track, with boxes to cross off for each point of damage taken. The boxes are arranged in blocks of four, which correspond to different wound states: Light, Serious, Critical, Mortal 0, Mortal 1 etc. When a character takes a Light wound, they have to make a Stun/Shock save (rolling under their BOD on D10) to keep from passing out or collapsing. At Serious, they must save against their BOD -1, at Critical against their BOD -2 and so on. At Mortal 0, the character also has to make a Death Save against their BOD to avoid dying, and then again every round until thay are stabilised by a First Aid task or they die. At the Mortal 1 wound state the Death Save is against BOD -1, at Mortal 2 against BOD -2 and so on.

Any hit to a limb or the head that does a total (after all modifiers) of more than eight points of damage either severs the limb or mangles it beyond repair, so that it will have to be amputated. The character has to make an immediate Death Save at Mortal 0. For head hits this means instant death, and damage from head hits are doubled (so wear a helmet, or a Kevlar bandana!). What this meant in effect was that after a few fights you ended up with a mix of odd-coloured donor limbs or you went maximum metal -- the name of the most power-gamey supplement they published by the way.

The three most important stats in the game are Reflexes, Body Type and Intelligence. Reflexes is used to determine your chances of hitting, as well as dodging. Body Type, which helps you soak up damage, can be increased by up to 5 via a couple of bioware and graft implants. Intelligence is important because it gives you more starting skills. Furthermore, most of the skills are based on INT or REF, with hardly any based on Cool, Attractiveness or Body Type. ATT can be raised from two to ten by spending enough money at the plastic surgeon. Movement Allowance is useful but can be increased to 12 by buying the Speeding Bullet or Corvette cyberlegs from one of the Chrome Books.

A high Empathy can be important because having cybernetics installed gradually reduces this stat. When your EMP reaches zero you enter ''cyberpsychosis'' and go on an uncontrollable killing spree -- which probably describes your pre-cyberpsychosis lifestyle quite aptly -- and the GM takes control of your character. It is important to note that intelligent players can use genetic modifications (available in Eurosource supplement books) and bioware to minimize Humanity Loss while still increasing combat effectiveness.

Every character gets a number of points equal to their Luck stat every session, which they can use to modify die rolls (by adding it to the roll, some players argue this is the most important stat to have).

== The Net ==
A central concept of the cyberpunk genre is the internet and computer hacking. One article in R. Talsorian's referee's supplement ''Listen Up you Primitive Screwheads'' asserts that the internet is the minimum technology required for a cyberpunk setting. Not surprisingly, the chapter on Netrunning (hacking) is the longest in the ''CP2020'' rulebook.

The game takes a 'classic' 1980s approach to the subject, with the internet described as a three-dimension grid (complete with fluorescent gridlines on a black background) through which move icons representing users and programmes. Servers are referred to as 'data-fortresses' protected by 'data walls' which the intrepid Netrunner knocks down with a programme like a medieval battering ram. Referees are encouraged to design datafortresses using blank crossword puzzle grids as maps.

A second line of defence for valuable data is Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics (Black ICE -- straight outta Gibson) programmes, which can chase the hapless Netrunner back through the net to their 'deck' (laptop with a 'modem') and kill them making their hardware malfunction and zap them!

== Supplements ==
A veritable plethora of supplements were produced by R. Talsorian, including splatbooks for the different character roles, sourcebooks for Europe, the UK, the Pacific Rim, orbital space and various major corporations, and the four ''Chrome Books'', containing new equipment (often taken from articles in the game's companion Interface magazine). In keeping with the game's focus on high technology and ultra-violence, the Maximum Metal book introduced rules for designing all sorts of military vehicles and powered armour (PA) suits.

The last supplements were the Firestorm campaign series, two books chronicling the Fourth Corporate War between the setting's two largest private military corporations, which ended in a nuclear exchange and the destruction of the ''CP2020'' world. This paved the way for ''Cyberpunk v3'', which did not surface for another seven or eight years, by which time some of the players had (obviously) moved on, considering no group remains 100% intact over time.

Many players, upon reading this article, were upset enough to edit it, having continued to use the existing rules for several decades with no problems or complaints.

== Conclusion ==
''Cyberpunk 2.0.2.0.'' is a great role-playing game. It has both style ''and'' substance. It was far more popular than its sequel, and many websites dedicated to the game, featuring homebrew rules and source material, are still active on the net. ''CP2020'' deserves a seat in the pantheon of tabletop role-playing games.
There is a very strong following of the original RPG active in the world today, with many new campaigns starting every day and running for long periods of time. It is highly recommended as a system for anyone trying to capture the feel of 'Gibson-Like' cyberpunk role-playing.

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== Cyberpunk 2077 ==
A computer game based on the PnP RPG, entitled ''Cyberpunk 2077'', has been under development since late 2012 and is <Strike>tentatively scheduled for release somewhere between 2018 and the end of god damn linear time at this point</strike> finally here. Set 57 years into the future (to make the futuristic visuals and tech more in line with current future predictions, without discarding what came before it). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2kIfS6fb8 Here's the trailer], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF9GgrY9c0 and the original gameplay demo].

Plot-wise, the game leads on from ''Firestorm'': the Fourth Corporate War happened, destroying Arasaka Tower with a pocket-nuke and generally causing significant havoc in Night City, but it didn't go full MAD and thus the utter shitshow that was [[Cyberpunk v3]] never came into existence. Soon after this, the legendary Netrunner Rache Bartmoss (one of several God-tier NPCs from the original CP2020) released DataKrash onto the Net as an effort to break the corporate stranglehold on it, royally fucking up the internet and screwing Corpo and Cyberpunk alike over - with the Net now a [[Warp| jumbled hellscape of rogue AIs, Black ICE programs, and sanity-sandblasting corrupted code]], every gang, corporation, and government promptly begins establishing their own mini-internets where they can rule without any oversight ([[Irony|the exact ''opposite'' of what Bartmoss wanted.]]).

Fast forward past Cyberpunk RED to 2077. Arasaka has developed a biochip known as the Relic, which can effectively 'back up' a person's mind as pure data. V, the player character, and their fellow mercenary/cyberpunk Jackie get contracted by the Fixer Dexter DeShawn to steal it on behalf of a contractor. Unsurprisingly, [[Not As Planned|shit goes south once they actually get it]]: it's in a prestigious hotel penthouse owned by Yorinobu Arasaka, oldest son of [[BBEG|Saburo Arasaka]] (Bill Gates + Japan's Emperor in all but blood, i.e.: ''the'' really big cheese). While Jackie and V hide, Saburo gets murdered by Yorinobu in front of them, then Arasaka guards later discover them fleeing the scene, jump to conclusions and attack. Their Netrunner gets her brain fried by Arasaka security, Jackie is badly wounded, and the case containing and maintaining the biochip is badly damaged as the two of them are forced to sneak/fight their way out of the hotel. Jackie dies from blood loss as the two of them escape via an AI-controlled car, forcing V to implant the biochip into themselves to prevent it degrading into uselessness.

In a twist no-one could've seen coming (considering the fucking trailers spoiled it), Dexter promptly betrays V to save his own hide from Arasaka's manhunt for the Emperor's killers, shooting them in the head and dumping their body in a landfill. Unfortunately for him, the Relic manages to resurrect V despite what would otherwise be fatal brain damage, and an Arasaka bodyguard who didn't buy Yorinobu's bullshit drags V off to a Ripperdoc to be healed (and also kills Dexter). Unfortunately for ''V'', it turns out that the Relic had already been used to back up someone else's consciousness and their [[Grimdark|brain is now being steadily overwritten with this engram, essentially dooming them to the complete death of their personality within a few months.]] V wakes up in their apartment to find they now have a rather pissed off Relic-dweller in their head - Johnny Silverhand (played by Keanu Reeves aka John Wick aka Neo aka Ted "Theodore" Logan), who was captured by Arasaka at the end of the Fourth Corporate War and subjected to the engram-creating Soulkiller program.

From there, the main plot shifts from making a name for yourself on the streets of Night City to V's desperate search for a way to stop their personality being overwritten by that of Silverhand, with various side quests allowing you to expand upon V's relations with Johnny (slowly changing him from 'pissed at being dead and stuck in your gradually-degrading brain' to 'Vitriolic, sarcastic, but somewhat friendly voice in your head'), attempt to find a treatment for Cyberpsychosis beyond 'Shoot them until they stop moving', take jobs from Night City's collection of Fixers to make a name for yourself, and catch up with several surviving members of Cyberpunk 2020's old guard of top-tier NPCs.

== Cyberpunk RED ==
August 2019 saw the release of a new edition of the RPG meant to bridge the gap between 2020 and 2077 (so can be used for campaigns set anywhere in between). With its existence, and per the creator's confirmation, it's apparently supplanted V3 as Cyberpunk's successor. In this version of the game's continuity, the Fourth Corporate War took place, but did not go nuclear, leaving the world battered but intact. The side benefit is that it explains why things have changed and how between CP2020 and CP2077 (for example; the Voodoo Boys went from an all-white gang of voodoo posers in 2020 to a predominantly-Haitian gang of ''actual'' Vodun practitioners in 2077 and CPRED explains ''how'' that happened).

== Links ==
* [https://rtalsoriangames.com/cyberpunk/ Official website]

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Furry

2021-09-18T10:47:23Z

2406:3400:20F:FFC0:196D:F00B:332:1711: /* Furry politics */

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[[Image:BAWWW.jpg|right|thumb|Fig. a: This furry is not making any friends here.]]
{{Topquote|I have run with the tigers and I know wild beasts better than the priests. Animals are neither gods nor fiends, but men in their way without the lust and greed of man.|Kull, Exile of Atlantis}}
''If you're looking for actual /tg/ races that are based on the principle of "humanoid animal", see [[Beastfolk]].''

''Alternatively, if you’re looking for the Chaos God from which furries emanate, see [[Slaanesh]]. ''

A '''Furry''' (not to be confused with '''fury''', which they tend to create) are people who are (often obsessive) fans of anthropomorphic animals. Some furries are merely keen on Disney, the Rats of NIMH, [[My Little Pony]], or Usagi Yojimbo (these are the tolerable ones); at the other end of the spectrum lie the [[FAIL|Otherkin]], people who [[What|genuinely believe]] that they are animals or dragons trapped inside human bodies. Some furries make and wear fursuits in an attempt to resemble their avatars in real life, which tends to make the participants look ridiculous most of the time unless the costume is well made (which, credit where credit is due, happens extraordinarily often) or they're at a con full of them (and even then...).

The Furry community is ostensibly based mostly in meritocratic elitism, with good [[drawfags]] in the upper levels of their social pyramid and the average Disney/Warner Brothers' animation fanboy in the lowest. Drama, misanthropy and other emo behaviors are very common in the hierarchy, often representing humankind as sociopathic or genocidal in their literary works or comics. Many furry comics have a homosexual or bisexual theme, not unlike anime; while there are many LGBTQ+ individuals and supporters in the furry community, there are also many [[Tumblr|"safe havens"]] that are host to furries often overlap with those accepting of gay communities. For what it's worth, the non-furry parts of those communities only consider them a problem when they go ''bashit fucking crazy''.

[[Image:FurryInANutshell.jpg|left|thumb|The diverse constituencies of the furry community in a nutshell.]]
Furries get a lot of hate in a lot of places on the internet, which stems form several sources; a big one is the really insecure subtype of furry who posts their "fursona" on deviantART and proceeds to spew bile at anyone who doesn't kiss their ass about it. Another big part of it is the type of furry most commonly referred to by /tg/ and 4chan, which is the erotic furry, also known as the "furvert", which is a specific sexual fetish for anthropomorphic animals. Erotic furries are fond of [[cybering|cybersex]], which they refer to as "yiffing", supposedly for the sound a fox makes while copulating. There are fewer erotic furries in the furry community than the average fa/tg/uy believes, but also more of them than the average furry will admit to. While sexual attraction to anthropomorphic animals *by itself* isn't too deviant or disturbing, the problem is that like many fetishes it has an odd tendency to occur in conjunction with other, more extreme ones (more on that in a bit). Because of these various factors, this type of furry is considered by 4chan, out of all possible factions, as the vilest and most nauseating form of [[heresy]] in all of existence, with only the ultimate [[Exterminatus|Banhammer]] as the solution. [[What|Even to the point where *all* forms of furry porn are banned on /d/, a board that accepts pretty much everything else, even outright felonies like rape.]]

Antipathy toward furries on /tg/ and 4chan runs high principally due to a profound weariness with thin-skinned furries complaining of persecution (but the irony that this has partially legitimized their claims has not gone wholly unnoticed). If you are a furry and feel the need to talk about it, the best way to survive on /tg/ is to admit from the outset that you are a sick bastard and that you don't expect anyone to praise you for it. (Addendum: Since 40k has very little to do with the fandom, it's generally safe to just not refer to yourself as one, lest ye call down the collective nerd rage of the fa/tg/uys on you, as shown in fig. a.) Furry threads make for very effective [[troll]]ing experience, especially if erotic furry art is involved.

[[File:Unconventional Armour.jpg|250px|right|thumb|/tg/ bitches about anthropomorphic animals all the time in sci-fi and fantasy settings, yet they have a insatiable fetish for cat women in skimpy armor. The irony is real.]]
In a somewhat [[Irony|ironic twist]], /tg/'s burning hatred for furries is what allowed /tg/ to come into being; [[Warhammer Wednesday]] was created as a direct response to furries attempting to spam /b/ every day of the week. The popularity of this day caught Moot's attention, leading to the creation of the /tg/ board.

Furries have their own RPGs, most notably ''[[Ironclaw]]'', and its Asian themed companion book ''Jadeclaw'', as well as ''[[Furry Pirates]]'' and ''[[Albedo]]''.

/tg/, /v/, /x/ and other boards (not really /b/, because half of them are furfags anyways) have a profound hatred for all things furry and will [[Exterminatus|rage, sage, kill, maim and ultimately burn]] the thread into the desolate wastelands of 404. (Any thread you may happen to see featuring monstergirls, centaurs, gnolls, or other sexualized sapient creatures is merely a figment of your imagination.)

Note: some furfags like to take it to the extreme and have recently tried to take /tg/ for themselves, only to have to resort to copious amounts of samefagging after the majority of fa/tg/uys got bored of saging their threads into oblivion. It is also theorized that furfags that invade /tg/ usually come from the bottomless pit of horror called tgchan.

Scalies are anthropomorphic creatures of the reptile and amphibian variety. As furries are nicknamed such for their humanoid shape covered in fur, scalies tend to have a coating of scales much like the animals they represent. However, some scalies, including draconids, have very light or no true scales, but flesh more like a human's.

Scalies are also furry fans with a preference for lizard, reptile, dragon and dinosaur characters and themes. It is also a self-moniker for the users of alt.fan.dragons, a Usenet discussion group for all things drakōn. They are not to be confused with [[dragonborn]] (because they don't ask to be fucked and raped constantly).

The real question is are birds scalies or furries? <s>Maybe [[beakie|beakies]]?</s> {{BLAM}}
==Yiffing==
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[[File:Damn Furry DMs.JPG|thumb|right|A 'typical' furry [[/d/M]] in action.]]
Yiffing refers to sex between furries, and is most commonly used outside the fandom in the form of "Yiff in Hell", indicating to publicly erotic furries that they or their sexual practices are not welcome in a given locale. As mentioned before, it frequently ventures into [[/d/|absolutely wild territory guaranteed to squick even the most hardened of internet users.]] For the most part, furries might have been tolerated had the fandom simply left it at "animal people fucking" and not become host to an array of utterly fucked up shit: watersports, adult babies, various forms of vore (most not even from natural orifices), ''actual bestiality'', and scat are all just scratching the surface.

Of course /tg/, being /tg/, knows everyone gets off to ''something'' that would be considered fucked up by at least a significant amount of people - after all, we have to let loose somehow and not all of us are the same. Plus, there's no fetish amongst furries that isn't already expressed in plenty amongst non-furries - [[8chan]] has ''an entire fucking board'' dedicated to non-furry vore, for example, and that's not counting the fetishes ranging from bondage to guro in the 'non-furry' world [[Roman Empire|since the fucking Romans]]. Furries are simply the poster child for people who take it to completely unfathomable heights, due to the frequent overlap between furries and other /d/-tier fetishes, such that one may feel an insatiable urge to drink bleach afterward. It's not uncommon to see even other furries giving [[Chakat|the worst parts of their fandom]] a wide berth, although many onlookers [[Exterminatus|would make no distinction in that regard anyway]].

Some people like to joke that the influx of furries into hell drove the immortal Prince of Darkness into attempting suicide (and succeeding), and he was replaced with the [[Slaanesh|Prince of Pleasure]], because it turns out Chaos accepts pretty much anyone.

==You might be considered a furry (by some) if...==
As the only attribute consistently required to be considered a furry is an interest in anthropomorphic animals (def: having human characteristics, such as human speech, clothes, etc) you might be a furry if you identify with and/or are a devoted fan of:

*[[Beastmen]]
*[[Skaven]]
*[[Lizardmen]]
*[[Minotaur]]
*[[Centaur]]
*[[Satyr]]
*Some subspecies of [[Demon]] or [[Slaanesh|some species of Daemon]]

(Clarification: Just because you are interested in any of these does NOT force you to become a furry. It's a fandom like anime is. You can like something without associating with the ravening horde of crazy fanboys/girls.)

==Things That are Not Furry==
[[Image:Furry chart.jpg|thumb|right|<s>[[Meme|100% is fine too]].</s> {{BLAM}}]]
[[Image:Cheesy.jpg|thumb|right|DANGEROUSLY CHEESY]]

Distaste for furries often backfires on /tg/ when overly zealous anons cannot find any furries to abuse and turn their attention to people involved in innocuous practices. In particular, you should check yourself if you find you are calling someone a furry for any of the following:

*Playing [[Bunnies and Burrows]] (without masturbating).
*Discussing ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Other Strangeness'' (without masturbating).
*Watching Disney movies and other movies with anthropomorphic characters (again, without masturbating). Disney movies may cause anthropomorphic animals to pique your interest, but does not, by default, MAKE you a furry.
*[[Monstergirls]]. Suggesting they count as furry to any stray weeaboo on /tg/ will result in them [[Eversor|broiling over with rage]].
*Playing [[gnoll]]s, [[minotaur]]s, [[Ork]]s, [[kobolds]] and in some extreme cases [[Eldar|elves]] (without masturbating).
*Discussing something such as ''Ruby Quest'' (without masturbating), which primarily has given the characters animal features in order to easily differentiate between them within its simple style.
*Discussing [[Werewolves]], playing [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]] or [[Werewolf: The Forsaken]] (without masturbating) as, despite the frequent overlap, they are not furry by themselves.
*Playing [[Space Wolves]] (without masturbating).
*Playing [[Tyranids]] (without masturbating).
*Playing [[Beastfolk]] in general (without masturbating).
*Sexual attraction to actual, real-world animals (as in not the cute catgirl you just drew up, but your actual neighbor's cat). This is known as Bestiality, and unlike everything else on this list is ''worse'' than being a furry<ref>We're listing it here purely because the two tend to get confused</ref>, although it is also one of the aforementioned deviances that "Furry" tends to overlap with.

Dispute rages over what exactly constitutes furry. As a general guideline "If it has a snout, it's out" works well-enough; however (and especially on /tg/) fantasy races complicate that particular equation a bit. [[Gnoll]]s, [[Minotaur]]s, [[Beastmen]] and their ilk are a well-established part of many a RPG/Wargame setting and have been there long before the furry craze. It's important to note the difference however: Beastmen, Wulfen and the like are clearly set out in the lore as monsters-they aren't sexualised and aren't really tolerated. There's no Beastman-Human relationships in Warhammer, because the lore is quite clear on them being hated and reviled, with every interaction starting and ending at the tip of a sword.

There are two major schools of thought on the subject. [[Skub|One holds that catgirls and other essentially near-hairless human characters with only one or two animal features]] (such as ears, minute resemblance of claws/fur on the body or a tail) [[Skub|are not furry, and the boundary of furry is only breached when you start sighting other obviously animal characteristics]] such as an altered skeletal structure, a face that resembles an actual animal and full-body-fur (this does not stop trolls from calling [[Horo]] furry, however). On the other hand, the second school of thought maintains that nobody fucking cares. There are hints of a still forming third school developing around the idea of [[Exterminatus|exterminating]] all of them and let [[Gary Gygax]] sort it out.

=== Monstergirls vs. Furries ===
One will note that the above doesn't constitute a strong defense of [[Monstergirls]] as not being Furry (as, unlike the other non-furry fur-adjacent-fandoms<ref>Bestiality is not a fandom.</ref> mentioned above, the two do share a rather ''*ahem*'' one-handed approach to things). This is because, sadly, Monstergirls has some overlap with furrydom. There are a few distinctions that may be worth making between the two, though:

* Monstergirls are usually an attempt to make monsters '''more''' human, usually due to a desire for something "exotic" and/or the fa/tg/uy or fa/tg/irl in question having poor luck with ''actual'' humans. Furries are frequently driven by a desire to make people '''less''' human, at least in appearance (with the target of dehumanization usually being the furry fan themselves), though the desire for the exotic still plays a similar role.
* Monstergirl settings usually make a point of having humans be present. Furry works are frequently describable as "ordinary (if perhaps porny) life, but '''everybody''' is an animal".
* Monstergirls are, well, monsters who happen to be conventionally attractive. Most Monstergirl works make a point of discussing and showing differences in thinking (whether cultural or biological) between the Monstergirls and normal humans. Again, Furry works are frequently describable as "'''ordinary''' (if perhaps porny) life, but everybody is an animal".
* Furry erotica has an especially bad habit of going into '''too many''' weird (and/or sickening) fetishes; Monstergirl-related porn tends to be more "mass market" in their erotic goals, with a good chunk of written fiction being completely romance-oriented (although admittedly there are a few high-profile [[Monster Girl Encyclopedia|exceptions to this trend]]).
* Monstergirl fans seem to be an 'ordinary' (if ''also'' porn-heavy) fandom, with all the perks and pitfalls of any other. Furrydom overlaps more with being a "lifestyle", with all the bullshit that the phrase "alternative lifestyles" usually involves.
* Perhaps most importantly, sanity. Erotic Furries are well-known for their blurring of fantasy and reality in their minds and fan-conventions; Monstergirl fans seem to be more clear on the distinction between the two.

A close reading of some furry webcomics crying about [[#Fursecution|"fursecution"]] can be highly enlightening on several of these points, if you're of strong enough stomach to do so.

[[Skub|Whether these distinctions actually differentiate the two is left up to the reader to decide.]]

==Furries on /tg/==
[[Image:Buggy_chart.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Insects are furry too.]]
Besides the usual angst over furry porn getting spammed, if furries are brought up at all, this is mostly in the context of fantasy roleplaying games that feature anthropomorphic species like Gnolls and Kobolds, etc. As mentioned above, this is a gray area where playing one of these characters does not necessarily mean one is a furry; even so, accusations can still be made, since genuine furries can use playing a canon furry species as a smokescreen for creating their [[magical realm]]. The key is to figure out ahead of time whether the player in question cares about roleplaying an adventurer and not roleplaying a sexual fetish. Actually, that's a good general rule to go by, furry or not.

With regards to WH40k, there's less ambiguity. The Imperium's stance on non-humans is [[heresy|quite clear]]. Yes, [[Wulfen]] do technically straddle the line into anthro territory, but the fluff makes it clear that they're barely tolerated as it is, and the [[Inquisition]] is too busy dealing with daemonic shit to get into another fight with the [[Space Wolves]]. Yet despite all this, you do have the occasional furry try to slip something in that, by all rights, should ordinarily result in [[Exterminatus]] right from the get-go. Because of this, furries have been classified as [[Extra Heresy]]. See the [[Fur Heresy]] for one such example.

===Flare===
Originally introduced to /tg/ by some creepy furfag that would spam her picture in [[drawfag]] threads constantly, Flare was since kidnapped from her creator to receive an extreme makeover in the hands of /tg/: Her backstory is that, hated by absolutely everyone, she had to endure constant abuse and fighting ever since childhood, turning her into a sociopathic fuckup. Posting an image of old Flare with or without text used to be the easiest form of trolling on all of /tg/ (Not even [[4e]] [[D&D]] could have elicited as much blind rage from the board) but the new Flare has since cut the worst edge out of it. More importantly, what /tg/ did to her is bugging the shit out of the original Flarefag, which is awesome.

There is no art of her anywhere except the original image and the ones that drawfags have made. Trolls sometimes refer to Flare as a mascot of /tg/, but this is so unthinkably wrong and horrifying that you are advised to stop thinking about the possibility {{BLAM|before we make you.}}

===Chakat===
Like Flare, this is an imported concept that /tg/ rapidly grew to hate. The short story is that [[Chakat]]s are a race of hermaphroditic furry [[catfolk]] [[centaur]]s [[Mary Sue|who are super amazing at everything and everyone wants to fuck them]], and engage in [[FATAL|metric fucktons of sexual fetishes including incest]]. And if you're not sexually attracted to them, then you're a horrible person and [[rape|they'll ''make'' you love them]]. In short, they're everything stereotypically wrong with furries in one package. Originally a [[Star Trek]] fanfic race, they've since attempted to [[Chakats Meet the Hammer of the Emperor|invade]] every other sci-fi franchise, despite being hated even by other furries. So if one of your players attempts to play a Chakat character, you'll know what to expect. On the other hand, with a few tweaks, they'd make for a great villain...

Also, their inventor is now a [[My Little Pony|brony]]. Make of that what you will.

===Sparkledogs===
The original form of the [[Freakshit]] meme, "sparkledog" is a pejorative from the 90s/early 2000s against furries who try to make their furry characters more distinct and end up making them at best silly-looking and at worst uberspecial snowflakes. There are three distinct methods of making a sparkledog:

# Give the character an unnatural and often lurid color scheme; [[edgelord]]s favored black and red, whilst others favored brighter, more technicolor colors, often in combinations. This is the source of the term "sparkledog".
# Make the character a halfbreed or even a multigenerational mixture of different races. This can be as innocuous as something technically in the same family, like a lion/tiger or a fox/wolf, to something completely defying biology, like a literal bull(cow)/shark or tiger/shark, a wolf/raven, or a scorpion/cobra. Some of these hybrids even caught on enough to make their own niche fandoms within the furry fandom, such as cabbits (half cat, half rabbit) and laquines (rabbit/horse, usually depicted as hyper-horny bunny [[dickgirl]]s with big ol' horse weiners).
# Make the character a mythical creature crossbreed, which ironically is often regarded as worse than just straight up being a mythical creature. The [[Half-Dragon]] was a popular choice, but [[Half-Fiend]]s (especially [[succubus]]) and [[Dhampir]]s were also big.

Note that these methods can and often do overlap - method 2 is often an in-universe justification for giving a sparkledog character its unusual coat. A good example of this is ZigZag; an in-universe porn star and a major furry sex icon of the 90s who was half-skunk and half-Siberian tiger, basically resulting in a skunk with black-and-white tiger stripe pattern fur.

===The Furry Test===
If you are developing a character or race, or are looking at someone else’s, and are wondering if they are technically furry or not, take this simple test. Just go through the list of traits and add the indicated points for each one that applies.
Note: a lot of these traits are also synonymous with [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]] and indeed the two have a tendency to occur together, so this test probably isn't that valid. The worst furries most worthy of purging (read: most of them), are almost without exception blatant and shameless Mary Sues in addition to their other [[heresy|depravities]].

*Add 3 if they resemble an anthropomorphic animal.
*Add 4 if they are ''specifically'' an anthropomorphic animal (fox, wolf, etc.).
*Add 4 if they are a Sonic fan character.
*Add 5 if they are a [[My Little Pony]] fan character.
*Add 2 if their sexual characteristics are gone into with ''any'' detail (E.g., things that [[Slaanesh]] would find amazing)
*Add 1 if they have a vibrant and unnatural coloration (often a lazy attempt at [[Original character, do not steal]]).
**If the unnatural coloration is red-and-black and the artist is older than 12, just max out their score and skip to the next section.
*Add 2 if they are the subject of fetish material.
*Add 3 if they are are the subject of fetish material in universe.
*Add 2 if they are always depicted on the side of good.
*Add 3 if Humans are the real monsters.
*Add 6 if they are [[Chakat|overly perfect, physically and/or morally]].
*Add 5 if their nonhuman traits grants them any powers, although subtract 1-3 from that if they have the corresponding weakness (e.g., emphasizing a strong sense of smell '''sucks''' when you have to go into a sewer, or that spikes tend to get in the way of being intimate).

Now add up your final score.
* Anything over 10 is definitely furry.
* Anything over 20 is firmly in "you sick bastard" territory. Your synthetic abominations will be converted into a cybernetic slaves of the Auric Bara'ki empire, or else Age backwards into their infancy and mind-wiped. You, on the other hand, will be sent to the Ecclesiarchy and wired into a Penitent Engine. The Emperor Protects.
* Anything over 30 is indescribably fucked up, and requires a [[Inquisition|counseling session with an Inquisitor, with cattle prod and leash]].

=="Fursecution"==
If you've read this far then you've seen several references to "thin-skinned furries complaining of 'fursecution'". The problem is that, like with any largely hated group of people, such persecution does indeed exist (stop laughing), and the net is often widened to include 'sane' furries (e.g. simple fans of the [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FunnyAnimal "Funny Animal"] style), who may be nonsexual and might potentially share that disdain for their more depraved "brethren". Furries who ''do'' have the pertinent fetish but lack any ''other'' fetishes will show where they draw the line; hell, even many of the sexual ones have their limits. In the cases where someone manages to check off most or (somehow) all of the more objectively despicable traits on the list, there's a point where the a constant stream of rage wouldn't do much good, since people tend to be less receptive of your opinions when you're a complete dick about them. But then, we don't come to 4chan to make healthy life choices, do we?

Another complication is that humans ''are'' like other animals in at least one notable way: we tend to act the way we're treated. Thus if you consistently act like an asshole to someone, they'll often eventually act like an asshole back. In this way, furries play into the common narrative where the insecure and/or arrogant vocal minorities within a larger group of people (e.g. the aformentioned LBTGQ+ community) get so annoying in their bitching about persecution (be it 'imaginary' or otherwise), that they "enable" ''actual'' persecution against the ''whole'' group. By that token, recognizing that furries are too easy a target - and usually scapegoated for ''other'' reasons - is not mutually exclusive of the fact that more than quite a few of them legitimately deserve the shit they get.

== Some positive advice ==
So you have probably read this far and been wondering, "If you are a furry, how would the people on this site actually want you to act, besides dying?" Well, everyone is different, and other people have different levels of 'fur-tolerance' based on how far their Hive-World is to Holy-Terra. No strategy for avoiding getting hunted is perfect, but here is a survival-guide for how to be a furry in places like this:

Advice 1: '''Don't hurt animals, or kids.'''
This should be self-explanatory - nobody who still has any semblance of moral compass would tolerate hurting those two categories. Do note that hurting is not limited to physical harm, if you have any fetishes relating to the two WE DO NOT want to hear about it and if you do mention it, do not be surprised if you are booted out of the site/board and possibly have the feds sicced onto you.

Advice 2: '''Be chill. Seriously, always be chill.'''
[[File:The Furries reaction to FURRY APOCALYPSE.jpg|thumb|This is some Furries reaction to a Furry Genocide Animation. So much for being a perpetually triggered community.]]
One of the most frequent positive things I hear from normal people with furry friends is how "chill" they are. That exact word keeps coming up. How do you do this? Don't get upset at anything. Ever. If your friend shows you something anti-furry as a joke, even if you don't like it, claim that you found it funny. People will slowly start to find you more tolerable, if you are tolerable of them!

Advice 3: '''Don't have too many fucked-up fetishes.'''
Having a furry fetish is a given regarding this, (asexual furries do exist, though) but if you like anything like scat, or gore, or anything gross like that, ALWAYS keep it to yourself. 99% of people here don't want to hear about that shit. You want to share that stuff with someone? Talk to a therapist or go to the dedicated Discord server.

Advice 4: '''If you are an artist, or writer, take criticism.'''
Many Furries are artists, and nobody is gonna take your work seriously if you don't let them try and help you improve it. Unhelpful criticism does exist, but real critics are trying to help you. Even if you don't agree with their advice, you should take it respectfully and actually consider what they are saying, and how it can affect what you are making. A general writing bit of advice is this, don't make the Furry species in your story the Ubermensch. Practice what you preach, and don't make them better than everyone else.

Advice 5: '''Don't be obsessive over Furryism.'''
This is technically a continuation of Advice 2, but this deserves clarification, do other stuff NOT related to furries, don't make it your entire life. You can have it be a part of your life, you can have it be a significant part of your life, but DO NOT let it become your entire life. Have other hobbies and make friends outside your own direct interests to gain some interesting new perspectives. Not all, but many furries think of the community as an entire lifestyle unto itself, THIS IS NOT HEALTHY. Don't think like this. Furries can be a lot of things, but it should not become your entire existence.

Advice 6: '''Respect the fandom and the lore.'''
This is related to rules 2 & 5 and it basically means that you should not try to shoehorn your fetish/OC/fanfiction where it does not belong. If you play a game, work within the bounds of it's universe. If the 'verse has anthros or beastmen - fine, if it does not, either drop it or better have a damn good reason why they should be included. 40k has a good example with the Felinids - they are a poorly described feline-like species of abhumans that you can theoretically have as Your Dudes (Imperial Guard), but if you are going to have them as an IG army, make them grounded in the setting any not uber-sexualised Mary-Sue regiment.

This advice should help your overall acceptance/begrudging tolerance in websites like this. Your mileage may vary, terms and conditions apply, see store for details. There are many reasonable examples on why people here would/do hate furries, and although most would never admit it, a good half of this community would probably be interested in something that undeniably falls under the 'Furry Media' category, if the creator had a brain in his head, puts effort into writing, makes interesting artwork, and didn't take himself too seriously.

The Furry fandom and furries have seen a greater degree of acceptance by the larger internet and IRL community and YOU are in a position to improve upon this, watch-listen-respect-be better.

== Furry politics ==
Contrary to popular belief, furries are not a monolithic block when it comes to a lot of things, just as their fetishes are varied, so too is their ideological bent.

The subculture can trace it's origins to 1980s american nerd/geek culture so a lot of the original (and current) members are imbibed with distinctly american brand of politics. It took until 90s however for distinct brands to start emerging. The most notable would either be right-of-center libertarians or left-of-center milquetoast socialists. The fandom at this time was too busy getting shit for being furries in order to really care about politics much (ancient administratum net-records indicate 'Skunkfucker' as being a popular name at that time).

This all changed when the Al Qaeda attacked on 11.09.2001. which acted as a catalyst for larger polarization within American society and thus furries who at this time were still predominantly based in USA. An upsurge in patriotism, nationalism/jingoism and beginnings of racism started to show gradually. Flash forward to the New 10s and you start to get some furries that are pretty righty and lefty.

The political makeup of the Furry Fandom as of the New 10s/New20s is majorly left-leaning and consistent with modern liberals - economically conservative and socially liberal with some who are far-left. A vast majority is also supportive of the LGBTQ and other marginalized groups and causes. A minority however hold a distinctly right-wing views and some can be said to be related to or part of the Alt-right phenomenon that arose in the late 10s. To cut a long story short - the majority of furries are various flavours of leftists with all that entails while a minority is various flavours of right-wing with all THAT entails.

Ok,you can stop laughing. Firstly, Nazifurs (aka Furzis) are furries who support Nazism. Yes, they do exist and yes, they are just as terrible as you imagine. The movement started much earlier but gained popularity in the late 2010s. They are still a minority within a minority for now, thankfully. There are also Soviet Furs but like the Nazifurs nobody gives a shit about what they have to say. The rest are either Libertarians (of the ˝privatise everything and let the Invisible Hand sort it out˝ brand), SJWs, hardcore socialists/communists and anarchists. The fandom has done a relatively decent job of keeping it's nuts down and out though so there's that.

==Gallery==
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Image:Animalabuse.jpg|Why any sane person should hate furries.
Image:Geek-hierarchy-pic15.jpg|Furry [[LARP]]ers.
Image:Dnd.jpg|Furcadia, an infamous furry graphical MUD.
Image:Exterminatus.jpg|This is what /tg/ actually believes.
Image:DeathToTheFurries.jpg|[[/b/|/b/rothers]] do not like any more than [[/tg/|fa/tg/uys]] do.
Image:SuiseisororitasHQ.JPG
Image:Get_furry_out_of_here.jpg
Image:Anonymarines_vs_furries.jpg
Image:One_wing_troll_dragon.jpg|Flare before
Image:True Flare.jpg|Flare after
Image:Flarebanned.jpg|No mods on /tg/, you say?
Image:Flaresprons_anonib.jpg
Image:RatAssMacro.png
File:Space_wolves_sergeant_by_GordonFreeguy.png|Not sure if heresy...
File:Art.png
File:Animated_yiff_furry_marines_1211613516571.gif|HERESY IN THE EXTREME
File:5_years_later_still_ruining_by_flyingdebris-d488kxr.jpg|Five years later - the war is still going strong.
File:M_does_not_approve.jpg|[[/m/]] supports /tg/ in its quest against the Fur-Tide.
File:Gnoll.jpg|Another awesome fantasy race is consumed by the fur-tide.
File:Dr. Steinman Parody.png|That's what happens when you <del>do drugs</del> draw furry porn for years. It screws up your mind.
File:Making chaos cultists look sane.jpeg|Congrats, fuckwit, you just made Khornate Guardsmen look reasonable
File:Dragons on a car 1.jpg|thumb|left|Example of an erotic scalie fantasy.
File:4D235B9F-5AA2-4AEA-BA31-8743729C6AC0.png
Image:D&d_beasts__senmurv_gay_pride.jpg|A suspiciously furry D&D creature. <ref>For the record: That's a "Simurgh", actual real life [[Mythology|mythological]] bird...only the artist has somehow made it 500,000 times more furry, LGBT-pridey, and just plain stupid looking for some reason.</ref>
</gallery>

== See Also ==

* [[Albedo]] - A hard sci-fi furry setting that manages to earn /tg/'s grudging respect by being both old school and surprisingly well thought out.
* [[Beastmen]] - When furries become violent [[Chaos]] worshipers.
* [[Space Wolves]] - When furries become violent [[Emperor]] Worshipers.
* [[Confrontation]]
* [[Dreamkeepers]] - One of the few, if not, the only good Furry webcomics the Warp has to offer.
* [[Fur Heresy]]
* ''[[Furry Pirates]]''
* ''[[Ironclaw|Iron Claw]]''
* [[Chakat]], something most furries prefer, understandably, to not be associated with.
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEmh5a_wSyw | Slaaneshi furries nearly destroy the world, but an unsung hero named Viktor stops them]
* [[Sergal]], like Chakats, a homebrewed race that is still based on humanoid animals (in this case a sort of wolf/shark/lizard mix).
* [[Protogen]], a race of furry alien cyborgs who rival sergals in popularity. I don't know why we even have a page for them though.
* [[Centaur]]s, although people argue if they are furries or [[monstergirl]]s.
* [[Minotaur]]s, which like centaurs get claimed by both sides.
* [[Catfolk]], who despite being furries are somehow more /tg/-acceptable than [[catgirl]]s.
* [[Lupin]]s, an actual D&D race of anthro wolves who went from Renaissance French swashbucklers in [[Red Steel]] to pseudo-Native American werewolf hunters who ride around on giant wolves.
* [[Ratfolk]], another race marginalized for "official furriness!"
* [[Gnolls]], anthro hyenas who mostly manage to avoid the furry connections
* [[Lizardfolk]], because some furries prefer scales.
* [[Dragonborn]], who really appeal to furries, though some furries complain that they don't have tails.
* [[Kobold]]s, an anthro lizard race who manage to be popular on /tg/ despite being anthro.
* [[FAPP]], a furry tabletop game for <s>furfags</s> players who enjoy exploring the most perverse of [[Magical Realm]]s.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJVZZLv2GE In which] [[Black Templars|The Emperor's finest]] do what they can to save us from the utter [[heresy]] that is furries. AVENGE ME, BROTHER!
* [[Harkness Test]]
* [[Humblewood]], a fan created setting for [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]] where half of the playable races are different kinds of bird people and the other half are various other animal people.
* [[Digganobz|Diggas]] - A Warhammer 40,000 in-universe sub-faction, basically members of Non-Ork races that want to be [[Orks]], which's [[Awesome|understandable]].

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