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		<title>Graham McNeill</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2600:6C60:56F0:7030:5811:7FAE:5206:978A: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A writer for the &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Black Library]]&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not as awesome as [[Dan Abnett]] or as bad as [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]], but nonetheless a competent (if inconsistent) writer [[Daemonculaba| and a sick fuck]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Wrote the [[Ultramarines]] novels and some [[Iron Warriors]] shit. When he&#039;s writing them, the Ultramarines are not just tolerable but actually okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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He&#039;s also written several [[Horus Heresy]] books, including &#039;&#039;A Thousand Sons&#039;&#039;, the first Black Library book to hit the New York Times Bestseller list (because of the subject matter, not the author), and the famous short story &#039;&#039;[[The Last Church]]&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, he&#039;s been responsible for some Matt Ward-level atrocities, such as claiming in his novel &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039; that the Emperor got his powers by making a pact with the Chaos Gods (though that is admittedly from Horus&#039; perspective, so...). He also wrote &#039;&#039;The Reflection Crack&#039;d&#039;&#039;, which had [[Fabius Bile]] and friends rape [[Fulgrim]] with a pear of anguish. So [[fail]] there. Oh, and Codex: [[Black Templars]].&lt;br /&gt;
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McNeill&#039;s writing style is very &amp;quot;tell, don&#039;t show.&amp;quot;  His books tend to have characters deliver their lines in uninterrupted chunks with minimal indication of what&#039;s going on around them, and very flat emotional inflection in dialogue. His descriptions are usually pretty plain and often descend into cliche; as an example, here&#039;s some excerpts of the description of the Battle of Istvaan V on p. 466-467 of &amp;quot;[[Fulgrim]]”:&lt;br /&gt;
* “Thousands were dying every minute, the slaughter terrible to behold.”&lt;br /&gt;
* “Such destruction had never yet been concentrated in such a horrifically confined space...”&lt;br /&gt;
* “the slaughter continued unabated, on a scale never before seen...”&lt;br /&gt;
* “the bloodletting was a truly horrific sight...”&lt;br /&gt;
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And on to p.471:&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The pain was unimaginable...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The battlefield of Istvaan V was a slaughterhouse of epic proportions.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;...a conflict unparalleled in its bitterness.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* “hundreds were dying with each passing second”&lt;br /&gt;
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He also has a bad habit of endlessly repeating awful phrases (such as &amp;quot;His choler rose&amp;quot;. Yeah.) and occasionally pulling obscure ones out for use. Keeping a dictionary to hand when reading may be advisable. McNeill also has something of a bad habit of not being able to do implications or twists - for example, &#039;&#039;Angel Exterminatus&#039;&#039; all but spells out that Barban Falk will lose his identity and become The Warsmith (with his identity even being dropped in a flat, weightless line at the very end).   &lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, his stories have a wealth of background information and detail, and his few character driven stories are very good as well (read &#039;&#039;Priests of Mars&#039;&#039;). And he knows how to write Mortarion - proud, clever, and ridiculously tough (didn&#039;t Chris Wraight do that first?). He even takes down a Baneblade in &#039;&#039;Vengeful Spirit&#039;&#039;, as well as [[What|catching a Fire Raptor in midair.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Priest of Mars also makes rape camps canon, just thought you would like to know (although they&#039;re heretical). Yeah, rape camps coming from the dude who wrote the Daemonculaba and a pear of anguish used on Fulgrim. Who would&#039;ve thought.&lt;br /&gt;
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He recently announced that he had been hired as a &amp;quot;senior narrative writer&amp;quot; for [[/v/|League of Legends]], and subsequently would not be writing as actively for Black Library as he has in the past. The response to this news on /tg/ was [[Skub|predictable]]. It&#039;s also slightly amusing, when one considers that LoL has a few shoutouts to 40k (and is very very easily amused); one character, Garen, is loosely based on an Astartes and has a Blood Angels skin. [https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Graham_%27Dinopawz%27_McNeill The list of his League work can be found here]--he&#039;s generally considered by Reddit to have done some rather good writing for League, with his best-regarded work being the grimdark Where Icathia Once Stood (featuring the closest thing League has to the Warp).&lt;br /&gt;
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That said he&#039;s far from being universally liked. Some Ultramarines fans view him as going too far in the other way.  Making them total failures and a vibe of &amp;quot;Cool Smurfs don&#039;t follow the Codex&amp;quot; and that the lead character [[Uriel Ventris]], becomes the biggest [[Mary Sue]] of all the Smurfs. Horus Heresy readers might criticize him for copy-pasting characters across books. Like many, many other things, this is [[Skub|up for debate]].&lt;br /&gt;
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He also did some writing for Warhammer fantasy, to include the trilogy on [[Sigmar]]’s backstory.  The books are good overall, with some great scenes, like Sigmar’s battle with [[Nagash]] at the end of the third book.&lt;br /&gt;
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