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{{Heresy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.|Mark Twain}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Hmm... this [[World Eaters|War Hound]]&#039;s name is &#039;Kharn&#039;... &#039;KHARN&#039;... Could he turn to worship...?  Nah, too obvious.|[[The Emperor|Emps]], prior to Kharn worshiping Khorne}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|[https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/6m87jm/what_is_the_best_case_of_revenge_in_the_lore/djzturt/ Get up.]|Kharn again, during a certain duel which, unfortunately, didn&#039;t end in [[Erebus|anyone]]&#039;s death}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Khârn the Betrayer Updated.jpeg|thumb|250px|Khârn the Betrayer is one of the few Space Marines of whom we have actual PROOF of having huge muscles.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Khârn the Betrayer&#039;&#039;&#039;, aka &#039;&#039;&#039;Conan In Space&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;a swell guy&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;, is an (in)famous [[Khorne]] Berzerker who revels in bloodshed.  He&#039;s arguably the third most powerful (ex-)mortal champion of Khorne, behind the [[World eaters|World Eaters]]&#039; [[Primarch]], [[Angron]], and [[Doombreed]].  He is Khorne&#039;s greatest mortal champion, and being mortal means you can [[/tg/_gets shit done|get shit done]].  As is likely evident, Khârn truly enjoys beautiful bloodshed, and it&#039;s almost always he who is causing the shedding, caring little for those caught in the hilarious and fulfilling crossfire; he does not care at all.  Thus, he has cultivated a wholly deserved reputation as a [[Battle of Skalathrax|teamkilling fucktard]] (in &#039;&#039;[[Warhammer 40,000]]&#039;&#039; rules, this is represented by assigning any close combat attacks he makes that miss the enemy to friendly units instead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite him being a blood-crazed fiend who might decapitate and mutilate the guy next to him, Khârn is quite frankly a delightful fellow to be around.  His horrid reputation notwithstanding, he is actually a deep-minded and fun-loving sort of bloke in or outside of glorious, exalted combat.  A truly rare breed of super-human, who just wants to have wild and heretical times with his friends.  He does not care whether you&#039;re a traitor, Guardsman, or a fellow Chaos Space Marine, unless of course you&#039;re an effeminate pansy who worships [[Slaanesh]], a dishonorable [[Sorcerer (Warhammer 40,000)|sorcerer]] who worships Tzeentch (though his boss tells him that only applies to the cowards...who Tzeentch himself is not as fond of as people think) , or the enemy, in which case he&#039;ll kill you the first chance he gets.  Or if you&#039;re [[Erebus]].  Fuck Erebus.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
===The Man, The Myth===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|The moment Angron was given mastery over us, we stopped being what the Emperor wanted, and became what our father wanted instead.  How could He have not foreseen the madness to come when it was He who made it happen?  Or did He even care, so long as we spilt the blood that He needed spilled to expand His realm?  If you desire to cast fault for the path that the XII Legion embarked upon, the true blame could be placed nowhere other than at the Throne of Terra, at His feet.|Eighth Captain Khârn, from his unpublished treatise &#039;&#039;The Eighteen Legions&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Kharn Pre-Heresy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Centurion Khârn, commander of the 8&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; Assault Company, before he became the Betrayer.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Before the [[Horus Heresy]], Khârn served as Primarch Angron&#039;s equerry, able to keep himself safe from his Primarch&#039;s raging bouts and [[wikipedia:Tourette syndrome|Tourette]]-like outbursts. He was also one of the extreme few persons within the Imperium who was capable of talking sense into his eternally angry Primarch most of the time (along with [[Lorgar]], sometimes; and [[Lotara Sarrin]], rarely). The best example of this is how he managed to convince Angron to command the then War Hounds legion, after the Primarch killed every other captain who tried to negotiate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Khârn himself was also more cool and composed back then, although he still is now....compared to other World Eater marines anyways (even before Isstvan he&#039;s credited with massacres that make Death Guard feel a bit ill). Of course, by the standards of regular Space Marines, he, like the rest of his Legion, was still an unstable, murderous barbarian, second only to [[wikipedia:The Kurgan|Clancy Brown&#039;s character]] in the first &#039;&#039;Highlander&#039;&#039; film. Although, in comparison to what he has become, he was rather tame. He even had a treasured bromance with [[Argel Tal]], a Word Bearer&#039;s Captain, alas, doomed the moment Erebus found out and killed him. Khârn responded in kind (after having been informed by Lorgar who killed his bff, proving that even Lorgar hates Erebus&#039; slimy self) by challenging Erebus to a duel to the death and beating him mercilessly. Lost records amount to Khârn grabbing both of Erebus&#039; fists and punching him repeatedly in the face with them for half an hour, chanting cries of &amp;quot;STOP HITTING YOURSELF&amp;quot; throughout the ordeal. Khârn was also bros with [[Sigismund]], 1st Captain of the [[Imperial Fists]] and founder of the [[Black Templars]], before Horus [[Horus Heresy|fucked everything up]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems the internecine slaughter on [[Battle of Isstvan III|Isstvan III]] is what set him on the path of Khorne worship for good - he tells Garviel Loken &amp;quot;I am the 8-fold path&amp;quot; during their duel (although when he afterwards hears of the 8-fold path, he only has strange uncomfortable sensation - maybe best compared to some half-remembered fever-dream). Loken escapes by nudging Khârn onto the sharpened prow of a Land Raider. Skane and Kargos told him about this incident after his recovery. Interestingly, Khârn does not remember the fight itself, all he knows is that he almost died on Istvaan III. Also, no World Eater worshipped Khorne until the later dates of Heresy, which is even more interesting, considering World Eaters atheistic attitude started to change only after [[Angron]]&#039;s ascension, and that was a slow process, Khârn perhaps getting an early start as it was he who Angron, who Lorgar had chained in the basement, tasked with obtaining SKULLS FOR (Angron&#039;s) SKULL THRONE. He also killed one million people at the battle of Terra before dying.   &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Assault_Cpt_Kharn.png|thumb|320px|Khârn, tearing ass during the Great Crusade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
During his time as a loyalist, he served as a Marine in the World Eaters Legion, but after the Horus Heresy he, like the rest of his Legion, become a freelancer of sorts and so he serves Noone and Khorne. In fact, Noone is the only human in existence that Khârn won&#039;t kill, because like Khârn, [[wikipedia:Peter Noone|Peter]] is just a swell guy.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Preheresy-world-eaters.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Khârn, alongside his [[Primarch]] [[Angron]] and Captain [[Lotara Sarrin]], back when the [[Great Crusade]] was still a thing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
If Platinum games ever made a 40k action game then the player character would definitely be Khârn. Seriously what other character in the whole universe is allowed to be so freakishly strong, fast and metal enough to jump off a hive city tower landing onto a Titan&#039;s out stretchered arm dodging fire from gun barrels jutting outwards from it&#039;s hull.  Using all the momentum from the Titan&#039;s movement to launch himself through the command deck&#039;s viewing window while spinning through the air weapons pointed outwards shattering the reinforced glass and killing crew members closest to the windows then slaughtering the rest of the crew on deck and finishing the Titan off by ramming its princeps into its machine spirit cogitators causing it to overload all systems and falling backwards from the trauma. Then Khârn exits the way he came in leaping outwards and being propelled through the air by an explosion while remixed metal plays in the background. This hasn&#039;t happened yet, but if Platinum made it, then you bet your ass it would have. (Well that&#039;s what Khorne fags think, really they would pick Lelith Hesperax since her sexy stylized combat fits them better than Khârn&#039;s &amp;quot;God of War&amp;quot; shit) (This anon seconds that notion even though an action vidya starring Hesperax would more or less be Bayonetta with a R rating). Or it could be a Madworld style game with Khârn killing left and right just for the lulz. Either way the canon &amp;quot;skull taken&amp;quot; counter thats in his helmet would have to make an appearance.&lt;br /&gt;
Khârn&#039;s name also seems similar to [[Derp|Khorne (Khar&#039;neth in the Dark Tongue of Warp Daemons)]]; strange how no one seems to have seen his Heresy coming. &lt;br /&gt;
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His name is derived from the Farsi (Persian) word for Betrayer, so as far as Iranian Chaos players are concerned, his name is [[Derp|&#039;Betrayer the Betrayer&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Khârn&#039;s showed up in a few books so far, and they consistently show that when he&#039;s not fighting, he&#039;s actually a pretty smart and classy motherfucker. One particular audiobook detailing when he helped out a buddy of his in some [[Rip and Tear|convoluted Khornate politics]], and he really does have the sense of humor that doesn&#039;t put him above [[Troll|trolling]] the other World Eaters when they&#039;re muckin&#039; about. [[Battle of Scalathrax|Just like that one time.]] Khârn even takes it all in stride and puts some time aside to imagine how he&#039;s gonna kill and betray them. Swell guy that one. &lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be mentioned that this guy is fucking terrifying even to other heretics. This is especially shown in Shroud of Night, where even an intercepted transmission that was him shouting his catchphrase (Kill! Maim! Burn!) is enough to send shivers down the spine of an entire Emperor&#039;s Children warband and an Alpha Legion warband.&lt;br /&gt;
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What&#039;s more, after the [[Imperial Fists]] kill the khornate warlord, who was bigger than a fucking dreadnought and wielded [[Doombreed|axes that were on fire]], their captain hears the rest of the warband chanting Khârn&#039;s name and instantly says they&#039;re fucked. You know Khârn is dangerous when even as Imperial Fist, some of the most stubborn fuckers in the galaxy, admits they are fucked.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fun Khârn fact: He is in fact of Terran &#039;&#039;Uralian&#039;&#039; (Siberian-Russian) descent like the Kurgan from Highlander, which meshes well with Angron being a Spartacus clone and the World Eaters basically being in essence Roman-era German Barbarians in SPESS. His voice sounds like a Russian Arms Dealer, which is [[awesome]]. Also a possible reincarnation of [[Awesome|Lu Bu]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Khârn is also, &#039;&#039;&#039;as a matter of fact&#039;&#039;&#039;, one of the oldest living Space Marines in the universe, having been born on Terra before the Great Crusade, during the [[Unification Wars]]; [[Ahzek Ahriman]] and Merir [[Fallen|Astelan]] (one of the first 5,000 Space Marines, and a Fallen Angel) is his only known competition for the title. &lt;br /&gt;
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As the latest (albeit rough draft) FAQ shows, he does also not care about not seeing the enemy, allowing him to kill even invisible units on a 2+. This applies in-universe too when Kharn kills the leader of the Sisters of Silence at the Siege of Terra without even knowing she was there.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Anecdotes About Khârn==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page got out of hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Anecdotes About Khärn.|You can find those stories here.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Wrath of Khârn==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the aide of his crew, Admiral Kirk must stop an old nemesis, Khârn...{{BLAM|HERESY! *BLAM*}}&lt;br /&gt;
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And old short story about Khârn getting shit done [[rip and tear|the Khorne-approved way!]] Too long; too awesome. Moved [[The Wrath of Kharn|to its own page]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Record from the Scions of Darkness==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Recorder:&#039;&#039; Dark Magos Wilhelman&lt;br /&gt;
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In all the years I&#039;ve been with this Tzeentchan warband, few things could prepare me for the sight that awaited me on Vasiria Secondus. Our Lord and his contingent of Sorcerers were preparing a great ritual, one that would pull the world into a massive warp-storm, and leaving the world ours to pillage, to conquer, and fortify. The planet&#039;s local PDF proved wholly incapable of stopping us, but were proving nonetheless irksome, with protracted artillery barrages from their Griffons keeping both our marines and machinery bunkered down behind cover, lest they be caught in the path of an oncoming round.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2 days of steady bombardment, our Lord apparently had lost his patience with the Guardsmen, and instructed his cabal of Sorcerers to continue a ritual to bring forth a tide of Daemons. The Sorcerers began work immediately in the confines of a shattered basilica of the false Emperor, and after nearly a day of sonorous chanting, the ritual began to bear fruit as a yawning rift in real-space began to open...&lt;br /&gt;
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...And then, it happened. A bellowing scream issued forth from the fledgling daemon-gate, and echoed coldly in our ears. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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And there he was.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tearing himself from the rift was a red-clad, gore-covered warrior, roaring chainaxe in hand, cackling in manic glee as he landed on the basilica&#039;s cracked marble floor. The cultist troops of our lord opened fire on the Khornate as he charged forward, their Autoguns pattering off his armor. Stepping forth was my Lord, who drew his Daemonblade, green warp-fire engulfing its surface as he readied to face down this crimson-armored menace, when, inexplicably, the Khornate marine paused, turned towards the Sorcerers who were now backing away, and charged forth again, leaping into the midst and sending them clattering to the floor. Reaching down, the Berserker grabbed for the Sorcerer&#039;s force staves, gathering them up under one arm and charging up the stairs, before kicking open the basilica&#039;s reinforced door and running out into the streets, laughing with riotous glee. &lt;br /&gt;
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We heard screams, lasfire, and explosions. And then... Silence.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sorcerers slowly collected themselves, and the cultists moved to reinforce the door. Hours passed, and we slowly emerged from the basilica to find that the PDF was no more, every single one of the Sorcerers&#039; force staves were thrust firmly into the engine block of each and every artillery vehicle. Scores of men lay dead from the subsequent explosions. We only learned later from Brother Panthus, a Raptor Champion, that Khârn had apparently delivered these killing blows by walking up on the ridge, and throwing the staves really, &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; hard. After killing the Guardsmen, he moved forward to continue a rampage into the city, slaughtering several landing members of the [[White Scars]] who were helping evacuate the civilians.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was the first time I had ever seen my Lord in a state of stunned silence. It was [[just as planned]], but for reasons not even the Sorcerers of Tzeentch had expected. A dark chuckle rang out from my Lord as he crossed his arms and overlooked the carnage.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Hell of a guy, that Khârn.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Crunch| On the Tabletop]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Warhammer 40,000===&lt;br /&gt;
Khârn has always been a deadly combat monster. He&#039;s not as strong as [[Abaddon]], but he&#039;s significantly cheaper and still one of the best fighters in the game. His main characteristics have always been hitting everything on a 2+, hitting allies if he rolls a 1, and Khorne&#039;s hatred of pyskers giving him extra resistance to psyker powers used against him. His popularity apparently did not go unnoticed, considering that in between the 3rd and 4th editions, he was improved by having his cost lowered and Gorechild getting an extra [[D6]] against vehicle armor. His power meant that armies that didn&#039;t use a [[Daemon Prince]] would typically use Khârn since he was considered the most cost effective melee option, or Abaddon if they were willing to spend the points (poor [[Lucius]] got overshadowed for specializing in something the previous three were already pretty good at). Like Abaddon, he briefly took a hit in the 6th edition due to [[power weapon]]s being declared AP3, but then changed to AP2 with even more attacks and strength than before. His main drawbacks, aside from attacking allies, are that he&#039;s no more durable than a normal Chaos Lord. Khârn&#039;s main draw is that, despite his cost, he can conceivably take on any sort of enemy he can charge; having 2D6 armor penetration and an upwards of 7 attacks on the charge backed by an effective strength 7 (5 base, +1 from Gorechild, +1 from Furious Charge) and AP2, he can literally kill anything in the game and can even devastate infantry blobs, which is the standard method of dealing with characters like him. And now he has a pre-heresy mini next to the standard mini, thanks to Forge World.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that statistically, Khârn has enough special rules and attacks to blow up an Imperial Knight Titan on the charge in one turn (due to his insane initiative, this happens before the Knight even gets to react). However this is not recommended as the Knight will blow up and take Khârn with it. If you&#039;re willing to make the trade though, remember that Khârn is just over half of the Imperial Knight&#039;s points. You can also chip away at warlord titans, thanks to armourbane and ALWAYS HITTING ON 2+&lt;br /&gt;
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Oddly, despite being the top dog among Khorne&#039;s mortal champions, Khârn lacks any presence in the Khorne Daemonkin codex, where he&#039;d be able to team up with Daemons who won&#039;t pussy out because they got their asses kicked in combat without risk of a random mutation and gain armywide FNP or +1 Attacks.  Yeah, you could take them as allies, but it&#039;s not the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition===&lt;br /&gt;
Khârn is still one hell of a swell guy in 8th edition. He now has 5 wounds and a 4++ invulnerable save, making him a bit less of a glass cannon. He sports a rocking base 6 attacks, and the ability to fight twice per turn instead of once. Gorechild ignores all negative modifiers to-hit so Khârn is &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; hitting on a 2+, is S:+1 AP:-4 D:d3 meaning he will put a lot of hurt on anything he faces with his humongous amount of attacks. His plasma pistol is S:8 AP:-3 D:2, though with Gets Hot Classic Edition (on a &#039;1&#039; he merely suffers a mortal wound, not spontaneous existence failure, and don&#039;t forget that aura re-roll).&lt;br /&gt;
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Not everything is good though since he lost &#039;furious charge&#039; (he hits at S6 whatever happens), is no longer almost immune to psychic powers and he can &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; re-roll to-hits of 1 in melee (which is weird because there&#039;s a lot of auras out there that let other characters re-roll 1&#039;s; including his very own aura). For you fluff fanatics, his misses are still allocated to friendly models as usual, he&#039;s &#039;The Betrayer&#039; after all. Like all characters, he also has a command ability, &#039;&#039;Kill, Maim, Burn!&#039;&#039; which allow friendly &amp;lt;World Eaters&amp;gt; units to re-roll missed to-hit rolls... within 1&amp;quot; of him. Yeah... One measly inch. (I mean, even [[Lucius the Eternal|the self-obsessed preening peacock]] has a 6&amp;quot; aura to boost fellow EC.) This is... rather underwhelming in an edition where characters are supposed to be less one-man-armies and more force multipliers boosting their underlings instead. I mean, it IS there to bring a risk reward to his... little side effect so it makes sense when you think about it. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FWKharn.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Khârn from Forgeworld.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chosen of Khorne==&lt;br /&gt;
Khârn now stars in his own audio drama and he also has a secondary role in the audio drama &amp;quot;Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot;. Listen to this shit. Spoilers: In a move that should surprise no one, he betrays everyone. Also, it seems he acquires himself a cool-headed equerry (who is also old enough to remember the War Hounds times). Oh, the irony. Shows up in &amp;quot;Trials of Azrael&amp;quot; again being an oddly cool-headed guy for what he is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though he was going to lose to [[Abaddon]] once, until a [[Bloodthirster]] broke them up and even then Khârn didn&#039;t stop until it told him that it was Khorne&#039;s will for him to work with Abaddon (for the time-being any way) and reap skulls. Khârn also killed [[Saint Celestine]], for what that&#039;s worth anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{topquote|Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn!Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn!  Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn!  Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn! Maim! Kill! Burn!|Khârn}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Only a fool takes Khârn for a mindless brute or a rabid dog. Under that blood-soaked helm lurks an intelligence and cunning that makes him a masterful killer. Trust me when I say that there is a dark purpose to his madness.|[[Abaddon|The Armless Failure]] about Khârn. Pretty [[awesome]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|STOP HITTING YOURSELF! STOP HITTING YOURSELF! STOP HITTING YOURSELF!|Captain Khârn, showing his gratitude for how [[Argel Tal|Erebus treated his best friend, &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;and surprisingly enough refrain from team-killing&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; and forcing Erebus to bail out with some psychic fuckery before being brutalize by gorechild.]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Get up.|Khârn, after dropping Erebus to his knees in a duel to the death, for the third time in the novel Betrayer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|They are the malice, hatred, and rage left behind after Eons of unending torment. brutal, unrelenting, bloodthirsty, without mercy, empathy, or remorse. Therefore you...like me, you must be worse. Rip and Tear, until nothing remains, then and only then will it be done.| Doomguy to Khârn just before he joins doomguy’s personal warband to fight Khorne’s rogue operators...As well as anything connected to Slaanesh}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|Many, I’m sure, but no more than usual.| His response to Argel Tal asking how many times he almost died this morning}}&lt;br /&gt;
===See also===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Abaddon at the Therapist]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Doom|DoomGuy...kharn&#039;s new friend]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;220&amp;quot; position=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot; spacing=&amp;quot;small&amp;quot; captionalign=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn&#039;s Helmet.png|Khârn&#039;s helmet.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn&#039;s Armour.png|Khârn&#039;s armour.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Gorechild.png|Khârn&#039;s chainaxe &#039;&#039;Gorechild&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn&#039;s Plasma Pistol.png|Khârn&#039;s plasma pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn-bloodied.jpg|One of the best Pictures depicting this badass.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn by elizaveta bikuin-d4e39x5.jpg|During his more earlier days, His armor fully covered in blood.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn-chosen-of-khorne.jpg|The Chosen of Khorne cover art.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn the betrayer by alexboca-d792nt5.jpg|Like a boss.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn&#039;s fury.jpeg|Here we can see him punching some naked guys... Enjoying yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fags!.jpg|Kharn, hired as a bouncer for area 51.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Awesomeness.JPG|SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!&lt;br /&gt;
File:K-s-new-pose.jpeg| ... his new Mini.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kharn_approves.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:P23436_p_v10_aa.jpg|300px|right|thumb|If your protagonist or antagonist isn&#039;t at least this [[edgy]], then you&#039;re probably doing Grimdark wrong.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lovepeace.png|thumb|right|It&#039;s totally the opposite of this.]][[Image:Inspector Grimgadget.jpg|thumb|right|Inspector Gadget, reimagined with a grimdark feel.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grimdark.jpg|thumb|right|Grimdark versions of the TMNT. Their mentor is a Skaven.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Grimdarkery.jpg|thumb|right|Grimdark means war, and always endless, brutal war.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|We are not men disguised as mere dogs, we are wolves disguised as men|Captain Muroto, &#039;&#039;&#039;Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|They say, &#039;Evil prevails when good men fail to act.&#039; What they ought to say is, &#039;Evil prevails.&#039;|Yuri Orlov, &#039;&#039;Lord of War&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{topquote|Tᴀᴋᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴜɴɪᴠᴇʀsᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ɢʀɪɴᴅ ɪᴛ ᴅᴏᴡɴ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ғɪɴᴇsᴛ ᴘᴏᴡᴅᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ sɪᴇᴠᴇ ɪᴛ ᴛʜʀᴏᴜɢʜ ᴛʜᴇ ғɪɴᴇsᴛ sɪᴇᴠᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇɴ sʜᴏᴡ ᴍᴇ ᴏɴᴇ ᴀᴛᴏᴍ ᴏғ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ, ᴏɴᴇ ᴍᴏʟᴇᴄᴜʟᴇ ᴏғ ᴍᴇʀᴄʏ ᴀɴᴅ ʏᴇᴛ... Aɴᴅ ʏᴇᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀᴄᴛ ᴀs ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs sᴏᴍᴇ ɪᴅᴇᴀʟ ᴏʀᴅᴇʀ ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴏʀʟᴅ, ᴀs ɪғ ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪs sᴏᴍᴇ... Sᴏᴍᴇ ʀɪɢʜᴛɴᴇss ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ᴜɴɪᴠᴇʀsᴇ ʙʏ ᴡʜɪᴄʜ ɪᴛ ᴍɪɢʜᴛ ʙᴇ ᴊᴜᴅɢᴇᴅ.|DEATH, [[Discworld|Hogfather]] (while explaining that since humans believe that it does, the way we believe Santa or the &amp;quot;Hogfather&amp;quot; does, we make it so it does.)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Grimdark&#039;&#039;&#039; is an adjective derived from the tagline for [[Warhammer 40k]], which states that &amp;quot;In the &#039;&#039;&#039;grim darkness&#039;&#039;&#039; of the far future, there is only war,&amp;quot; and in some of the novels (at least a few of the [[Ciaphas Cain]] stories, for instance) it states straightforwardly, &amp;quot;in the &#039;&#039;&#039;grim dark&#039;&#039;&#039; future...&amp;quot; Whether this came after &amp;quot;grimdark&amp;quot; began to be popularly used as an adjective is not wholly clear (probably after). It is generally used to describe a dilapidated, dystopian &amp;quot;crapsack world&amp;quot; setting which it would really suck to live in, as say Somalia, North Korea, or the setting of Warhammer 40k itself. In fairness to the franchise and its defenders, this is because the published material primarily focuses on war and [[Chaos Gods|cults]] and other [[Daemonculaba|horrible things]]. There are supposed to be many pleasant and peaceful worlds and sectors in the Imperium, but they are mostly ignored as they are boring -- and when they DO appear in lore or fluff, they&#039;re usually to go from &amp;quot;0 problems&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;totally fucked&amp;quot;, very quickly.  It can also be used to describe artwork that has a &#039;&#039;grimdark&#039;&#039; feel, even if the setting itself would not normally be considered grim or dark, or something sinister or uncommonly threatening/intimidating in real-life. This often applies to fan-art and writefaggotry as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Depending on your own personal tolerances for grim darkness of course, it can be taken to the extreme, just like with all descriptive traits. There is a point in which it becomes more ridiculous than anything else, because everything is indefeasibly tragic all the time - the term for this being [[Grimdark#Grimderp|grimderp]], which is explained further below.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is an accusation often leveled at Warhammer itself, and leads some to rail against &amp;quot;Grimdark&amp;quot; as a whole, decrying the concept as ridiculous attempts at [[edgy|edginess]] (typically by teenagers), and using the expression to refer solely to such over-the-top settings in a strictly pejorative manner. Others actually embrace this ridiculousness and run with it (including Warhammer 40K itself, due to being a much more obviously comedic setting [[Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader|in early editions]]), insisting that the detractors or even the creators who take it seriously are making a mistake. Some people embrace the grimdarkness and mix it up with some humor (like painting Necrons with bright colors to make them look like edible candy figurines), especially if they are Ork players. But the schism between taking Warhammer&#039;s grimdarkness seriously or not is mostly visible with races such as the Tau, who are noticeably less grimdark &#039;&#039;visually&#039;&#039; than most of the other races and are either loved or absolutely hated for it (when not hated for being overpowered as shit). Meanwhile, another sizable percentage postulate that Grimdarkness lends greater moral and ethical complexity to a setting, based on [[Edgy|the fallacy that darkness always equals depth]]. Such people usually cite the works of Dan Abnett and many other Warhammer 40K writers to lend credence to such suppositions; these people are clearly ignoring that fact that most writers tone the grimdark WAY down. What, you didn&#039;t think the fact that the Imperium being an effective government, civilians having normal happy lives on par with the Scandinavians, Commissars who never *BLAM* their troops was odd? Needless to say, grimdark is [[Skub|a rather polarizing subject whose discussion often leaves little room for a middle ground]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking of, the polar opposite of grimdark is [[Noblebright]], a deliberate inversion of grim and dark nature where honor, chivalry, happiness and high adventure rule the day, as opposed to dying in a ditch from a supernatural plague as you run out of potable water and can no longer wait for the logistics department to process your dead comrades into something slightly more palatable before you start eating them. Oh, and being {{BLAM}}ed by a Commissar for even starting to look a little sad from these thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although, it could be argued that 40K proper is actually Nobledark.  Although the lore claims one man cannot make a difference and heroes are meaningless (Grim), we see the complete opposite of that actually happening in the lore.  40K fluff (40K, not just 30K) is crammed to bursting with heroes who made major differences.  If anything, 40K seems to be about the difference one man &#039;&#039;can&#039;&#039; make rather than showing one man cannot make a difference.  Even the events revolve around the Great Man idea of basically superheroes and supervillains moving the galaxy (and it&#039;s not just actual superhumans doing this).  It is nonetheless a very dark setting, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Common grimdark themes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[1984|Massive, imperialist, overbearing, bureaucratic, dystopian dictatorships]]; e.g. [[Imperium of Man|Nazi Germany clones]], [[Tau|Soviet Union/China clones]], or straight out examples of [[Paranoia|&amp;quot;Big Brother is watching you&amp;quot;]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Constant, never ever-ending warfare, usually as a horrific combination of outdated tactics and technology (And sometimes overly advanced technology). E.g., sending line infantry armed with single-shot [[Lasgun|Lasguns]] against a [[Bolter|Heavy Bolter]] nest.&lt;br /&gt;
*Horrifyingly large death tolls are perfectly normal. Genocide is also perfectly normal, and in many cases encouraged and espoused.&lt;br /&gt;
*Slavery is also perfectly normal, and sometimes considered a great necessity. Massive constructs are often built via slave labor.&lt;br /&gt;
*Everyone is racist towards non-humans/[[Eldar|elves]]/[[Mutant|mutants]]/[[Orks|fungus]]/[[Rak&#039;gol|lizards]]/[[Slaugth|worms]]/[[Necrons|robots]]/[[Tyranids|aliens]]/[[Chaos|each other]]. Vice versa for literally every race. &lt;br /&gt;
*Speaking of xenophobia towards every species, those who express sympathy for a hated race and/or intermingle with said race, are usually publicly humiliated, tortured, and usually purged.&lt;br /&gt;
*Daily dose of [[HFY]]. [[Astral Knights|And]] [[Awesome]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shadowrun|The vast majority are poor people who literally live in shit, pollution, crime]], and a plethora of [[Nurgle|all kinds of filthy diseases]], except for a [[Monopoly|few greedy upper 1% who own 99.9% of everything]].&lt;br /&gt;
*You, a poor bastard, are being farmed for shoots and giggles by said few greedy upper 1%. &lt;br /&gt;
*Most of the poor bastards are being forced to work 23 hours a day, seven days a week, fifty-two weeks a year, in factories and/or forced labour camps, until their bodies give out. Forever.&lt;br /&gt;
*They&#039;re probably making weapons and equipment for [[Imperial Guard|the military]] (which is where the rest of the poor bastards are). &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Age of Strife|Dark, disgraceful and recondite past]] covered with [[Alpha Legion|lies]] [[Imperium|propanganda]], [[Tzeentch|deception]] and [[Eldar|partiality]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*The Higher Powers do indeed give you consideration, they&#039;re just malevolent as all fuck.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chronic backstabbing. Just like in real life relationships. (&#039;&#039;Who hurt you?&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ork Snipers|&amp;quot;Frie]][[Marines Malevolent|ndly]] [[Kharn|fire&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Space Marines|Child]] [[Imperial Guard|soldiers]]. Just like in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your morning alarm clock is the stray bullets you hope don&#039;t hit you, from [[Necromunda|the gangsters doing a drive-by on their enemy who happens to be in the same district]] to whom you don&#039;t even belong to or like.&lt;br /&gt;
*Status quo is god. [[Nurgle|Literally.]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tzeentch|Change is worse]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cyberpunk|Cybernetics and cyborgs]]; the less human, the better.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar|Daily forecasts reguarly call for a 80% chance or more of *BLAM*]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judge Dredd|Police]] [[Adeptus Arbites|brutality]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Even minor crimes can have major punishments.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inquisition|Being innocent or even a victim of crime can be counted as a crime]]. All participants in a crime, whether perpetrator or victim, are charged.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inquisition|Government agencies that are always there to fuck you over]] at the slightest hint of [[heresy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Did I mention that the [[Inquisition]] commits planetary genocide 24/7?&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Erebus|cock]][[Dark Eldar|suckers]] responsible for most of the shittiness are not only getting away with it, but are surviving and thriving, without becoming major targets for the [[noblebright]] forces. &lt;br /&gt;
*Torture that makes the CIA look like saints.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Call of Cthulhu|Sanity checks]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Criminally insane delusional psychotics tortured in filthy mental asylums (in case of no/failed SAN checks). &lt;br /&gt;
*[[H.P. Lovecraft|Disgusting, horrifying, tentacled eldritch abominations]] that are often the cause of aforementioned criminal insanity. &lt;br /&gt;
*Rape. Just like in real life. ([[/d/|And often by said tentacled Eldritch Abominations]].)&lt;br /&gt;
*Surgery without anesthesia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cannibalism]], in three forms:&lt;br /&gt;
*# For power (embracing the myth of &amp;quot;you are what you eat&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
*# For food value; sometimes this is concealed by callus authorities as some other kind of food; sometimes, it&#039;s just a biological, cultural or desperation thing.&lt;br /&gt;
*# For the sheer fun of it.&lt;br /&gt;
*Want chemotherapy or some other expensive treatment? Well, you have to eviscerate that old dropout student of yours in order to pay. &lt;br /&gt;
*In fact even surgery without anesthesia is a luxury available only to wealthy or important ones, as are all other forms of medicine. 99% of people are expected to die when they fall sick or get injured. That is when they don&#039;t get executed FOR falling sick or getting injured.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fleshcrafting|Human experiments]]. [[Fabius Bile|Sometimes willingly, but most of the time not]]!&lt;br /&gt;
*Zombie plagues.   &lt;br /&gt;
*Ritual cult sacrifices. &lt;br /&gt;
*Massive amounts of blood, gore, guts, pain and hatred.&lt;br /&gt;
*No personal opinion or choice. Only the illusion of it, in which you probably end up an [[Magnus|unwil]][[Mortarion|ling]] [[Rubric Marines|sla]][[necron|ve]]. Or...[[Chaos spawn|something worse]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Anti-intellectualism. &lt;br /&gt;
*...and it&#039;s justified because even an instant of unprotected thinking risks mass destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
*PTSD.&lt;br /&gt;
*Nihilism.&lt;br /&gt;
* Racism is actually right.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gothic and emo aesthetics (with the help of tons of &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;decorative&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; skulls). &lt;br /&gt;
*There are no &amp;quot;good guys&amp;quot;. Everyone&#039;s a jerk, including yourself. &#039;&#039;Especially yourself.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
* Everyone is evil either because they’re just plain monsters or because they are trying to survive which makes everyone evil to everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tau|The guys everyone refer to be &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nice&amp;quot;]] are actually just &#039;&#039;the least&#039;&#039; evil bunch, and would still make your average high fantasy/sci-fi arch-villains look like saints in comparison.&lt;br /&gt;
*The REAL good guys are either [[Lamenters|the ones (usually) mostly hated, and are going to get fucked over beyond human recognition usually without any logical reason]] or [[Salamanders|too few to make any difference]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Aforementioned &amp;quot;good guys&amp;quot; are only &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; because they do care about their allies and civilians, and generally try to make the place less shitty for those they care for. But they still wouldn&#039;t hesitate a second before doing pretty horrible things like [[Shadowrun|terrorist actions against &amp;quot;The Man&amp;quot;]], [[Warhammer 40k|killing a defenseless xeno child]], etc...&lt;br /&gt;
* The aforementioned defenseless xeno-child needed to be killed either because it was guaranteed to grow up to be a monster, would grow to compete for resources needed for survival, would be corrupted, was already a monster, or any number of reasonable justifications that would leave a modern man in frustrated tears trying to justify not killing it.  Welcome to Warhammer 40,000.&lt;br /&gt;
*Magic is [[Warp|inherently malevolent]] and actively seeks to [[Cenobites|corrupt]] and [[Khorne|destroy]] those unfortunates &#039;gifted&#039; with magical abilities.  And everything around them at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
*You either die a [[Sanguinius|worthy death]] or you live long enough to see yourself becoming something that [[Mortarion|you&#039;ve]] [[Perturabo|always]] [[Fulgrim|hated]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Everyone will most likely die in the end. Especially the ones important to and including the main character.&lt;br /&gt;
*Always polluted, never sunny. &lt;br /&gt;
*No ice cream. No lollipops either.&lt;br /&gt;
*Death or suicide will only make things much, much worse in [[H.P. Lovecraft|Lovecraftian]] levels, as a hive of disgusting, incomprehensibly evil supernatural daemons are waiting patiently to eternally torment your un-life and roast your soul alive day and night forever and ever, again and again and again and again.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tremendous potential for offensive/dark comedy/[[lulz]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[God-Emperor of Mankind|And if you ever, EVER try to change this shitty world or try to help one person just a little, you will probably suffer terrible consequences,]] because altruism is a dying philosophy. (And because your reasoning is flawed.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Life sucks. &lt;br /&gt;
*There&#039;s only war.&lt;br /&gt;
*You&#039;re probably going to get eaten by Tyranids.&lt;br /&gt;
*no gf&lt;br /&gt;
*Good luck and [[Dwarf_Fortress|have fun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Even using the wrong calendar is [[heresy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stuff considered Grimdark ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Tyrus.jpg|400px|thumb|A world where the only way to beat grimdark is by introducing something even grimmer and darker]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The_grimdarkian_by_ironshrinemaiden_d1i73bl.jpg|400px|thumb|[https://www.deviantart.com/ironshrinemaiden/art/The-Grimdarkian-91030161| The Grimdarkian, by IronShrineMaiden]]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Warhammer 40,000]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Naturally, coined the term).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;but less than you&#039;d think. It&#039;s a lot closer to nobledark&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; until the world [[Derp|was]] [[Bullshit|actually]] [[End Times|destroyed]]. Now, [[Age of Sigmar]] continues it and is, slightly, better in so much that it is unlikely to be destroyed, though [[Warhammer Meta-Setting|that may imply an even worse eternal stalemate]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;The World Wars&#039;&#039;&#039;, especially the Western Front of WW1, the Eastern Front of WW2, and everything involving WW2 Japanese army/navy and PoWs/civies.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;The countless wars of the 1990s in Africa&#039;&#039;&#039;, including, but not limited to: The Rwandan Genocide, Liberian child soldiers, Sierra Leonean amputations, slave labor in the Congo, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
** Post Colonial Africa in general until the 21st century and even then it is still not particularly nice.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Dwarf Fortress]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Dark Sun]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;End of War&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, The main character is a undead wild west gunslinger who has to bring down a dark god&#039;s cult!&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Shakespeare&#039;s tragedies&#039;&#039;&#039;, especially &#039;&#039;Macbeth&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Hamlet&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[1984]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Soylent Green&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Paranoia]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (though used for parodying 1984).&lt;br /&gt;
* The majority of the tragedy genre of stories.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[RIFTS]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Half-Life&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; universe after the resonance cascade.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Portal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; once you get past the memes.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Helghast from the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Killzone&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; universe.&lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;Kerberos&#039;&#039;&#039; trilogy, but special mentions to &#039;&#039;&#039;Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade&#039;&#039;&#039;. A series of films that basically gave birth to Killzone singlehandedly (Seriously, look at the comparisons between the Helghast and the film&#039;s Protect Gear, [[Original character, do not steal|it is &#039;&#039;blatant&#039;&#039;]]). Set in an alternate-history where Japan was occupied by Germany rather than America at the end of WW2. In Jin-Roh, the nation is constantly in social turmoil with left-wing communist terrorist guerillas using children as bomb couriers against two police force of Japan: the normal-looking police force (Backed by the Japanese KGB/CIA hybrid) and the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;ORIGINAL&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; Helghasts called the Kerberos Panzer Cops. Jin-Roh is a political thriller film that largely talks about the problems of the &amp;quot;Good guy, bad guy&amp;quot; dichotomy and how juvenile it is for stories to portray these things in real life. All of the films have a downer ending, so if you are looking for a happy ending, you&#039;re gonna get dissapointed. Despite what [[/pol/|some people]] [[SJW|may argue,]] the Kerberos trilogy is a condemnation of all extremist ideas and actions. Its a Mamoru Oshii film of Ghost in the Shell fame, what do you fucking expect.&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything in &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gears of War&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. The fact that the primary weapon in the series features a [[Chain Weapon|Chainsaw bayonet designed to utterly rip out the innards of anyone unfortunate to be at the receiving end]] is already by itself Grimdark.&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything in the Resistance universe.&lt;br /&gt;
* The MachineGames &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wolfenstein&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; games. The Nazis crushed the Allies in 1947 with insane technology and won World War II. The setting pulls no punches in depicting how nightmarish the world would become if the Nazis were free to enact their racist and reactionary ideology to its fullest. Manhattan was nuked off the earth, London is now a slum filled with humiliating monuments to the Nazi victory (and a giant robot that literally crushes any uprisings), indigenous peoples in Africa and South America are being exterminated wholesale, there are concentration camps on the Moon, Hitler has been deified, and untermensch live in hiding and constant fear for their lives.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Blame!]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Devilman&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. (especially CRYBABY)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Berserk]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Goblin Slayer]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.(Pretty much [[Berserk]] if it was set in a Dungeons and Dragons world)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Emergence]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. (177013)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Kingdom Death]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Makes 40k&#039;s setting seem pleasant and cheerful).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Eastenders&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (especially at Christmas).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Grimdark Songwriting]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Don&#039;t Rest Your Head]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;SLA Industries&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: Imagine if the Emperor was not only still walking around, but was a callous buisnessman with a permanent skeleton face and no bling armor. Imagine a civilization that exists almost entirely to strip mine itself in the name of consumerism, with snuff television being the primary source of entertainment and anyone trying to do buisness not on SLA&#039;s pay roll being branded a &amp;quot;Soft Company&amp;quot; to be exterminated. Oh, and truly horrid aliens that were thought extinct centuries ago are now making a comeback AND occult fuckery of varying flavours is manifesting in increasing amounts in Mort City, SLA&#039;s capital.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Matrix&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[World of Darkness]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, with special mention going to [[Wraith: The Oblivion]], a game so bleak it&#039;s rumored to have actually caused fits of chronic depression in players.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[CthulhuTech]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Call of Cthulhu]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, depending on how you do it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything from &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[H.P. Lovecraft]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cthulhu Mythos&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, though this can vary when you add in other Mythos writers like August Derleth.&lt;br /&gt;
* Playing mortals in &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Exalted]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Neon Genesis Evangelion&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Especially End).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Muv-Luv&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Often compared to 40k in how bleak and brutal the series is.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Midnight]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; setting for D&amp;amp;D.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[FATAL]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Rebecca Black]]&#039;&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Just the title itself should give you a clue on how horrific the game is. (The video game is terrifying, especially with its endings, and the short story it is based on is even more horrifying). &lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;Medieval Dark Ages&#039;&#039;&#039; that Warhammer 40,000 was originally based on.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[The Witcher]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Racism, genocides, dozens of monsters that want to eat your face whenever you enter a random forest. Or cave. Or ruins. The video game adaptation even features a medieval Hitler running the [[Inquisition|Witch Hunters]], a fanatical order of [[Black Templars|racist scumbags dedicated to wiping out both mages and non-humans]] in the name of the Eternal Fire. Meanwhile, the neighboring empire starts a series of wars against northern kingdoms (where the series takes place), in which both sides descend into scorched earth warfare, all the while backstabbing their allies and generally being a colossal wall of dicks to the point that close to 70% of civilian population in war-zones died from raiding, famine and occasional outbreaks of extradimensional plagues. To add insult to injury, the whole world is doomed due to the (slowly) encroaching Ice Age, and the only person that could save it took two glances at this shitshow and decided to fuck off to a parallel universe and let them all die, &#039;&#039;because it would be a mercy&#039;&#039;. (To be fair, though, she comes back, if only to save her adoptive mother and father from said Ice Age, as she still maintains her &#039;fuck the rest of humanity&#039; attitude.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Souls&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. The entire &#039;&#039;world&#039;&#039; is &#039;&#039;dying&#039;&#039;. Specifically, most of the population is undead, you die constantly, and you have to fight enemies larger and filthier than you are, [[Heresy|including a naked bitch with a spider vagina]]. Also, [[Extra Heresy|FAKE TITS]]. Stuck in an infinite loop where a hero constantly saves the world, and everything goes back to normal before hitting another grimdark cycle every thousand years. Compare with nobledark and check your mileage.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Drakengard&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and its related franchise: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Nier&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Basically, the &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; in this setting is a massive dick so he infects humans with zombie aids out of boredom and watch them kill each other for the [[lulz]]. Caim (the player), the former prince of a fallen kingdom (due to his parents being killed by a black dragon) had to fight the zombie army. He unironically [[rip and tear|enjoys slaughtering any living things]] after waging a bunch of other conflicts and lost his ability to speak after he made a pact with a dragon in exchange for companionship and power (in Drakengard, making such a pact with another creature makes you lose a certain part of you). He had to team up with a blind pedophile priest, a baby eating elf witch, and a ageless shota. His sister unknowingly to him is a crazy incest bitch, driven mad by the pain she endures because she was forced to become a &amp;quot;Goddess of the Seal&amp;quot;, some kind of administrator chosen by the &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; to maintain space and time. The job sucks, she had to be separated from her family and she&#039;s unable to kill herself because her caretaker would prevent that from happening. And to top it off her parents die tragically. And then you have the villains. Manah, an abused 8 year old child descended from one of the evil clone sister&#039;s brother from the prequel, was controlled by the eldritch forces of &amp;quot;the watchers&amp;quot; (read: the dick head &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; himself) who are in charge of the zombie armies with humanity&#039;s extinction being their goal. Due to the influence of the watchers group on the Empire kingdom of its setting, the world is engulfed in flames and corpses. The true ending for the game is that everyone except Caim dies and he somehow end up moving a magical doomsday device created by the god to other world (Tokyo Japan of our world to be exact), detonate it and doom the human race. It is said that Drakengard as a series has a fuck ton of timelines and a timeline was born from each of the endings with each ending being bad, or if not worse than the previous. Surprisingly the ending mentioned above is consider canon and it is where the sequel Nier took place (after 1462 years no less) with more grimdark ensuing. Drakengard 2 was pretty bright light since it was directed by a different director but is still part of branch timeline while Drakengard 3 is the prequel retelling how the god tries to destroy the world by sticking an evil parasite flower on some psychopathic girl. Each time the girl died it creates an evil clones of her that will try to rule the world with their evil song magic. Obvious, it&#039;s also grimdark since it led to the tragic grimdark horror sauce that is the plot of the first game.&lt;br /&gt;
** In &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Nier&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, the world sets 1462 years into the future. After our &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; and his dragon fucked up the world by killing and detonating the doomsday device, it release some kind of magical evil virus that mindraped and turned people into salt if they don&#039;t submit. After countless grimdark conflicts involving child soldiers, human experiments and more resource shortage, the scientist decided to separate the rest of the survivors souls (gestalt) from their bodies, hoping they could outlast the pandemic. But of course all these attempts are futile failure because Nier, our &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; ended up killing the only thing that could save humankind, dooming them all to extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
*** Finally we have &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Nier: Automata&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, 8480 years later, where new androids were created by the last human survivors. One of the Nier&#039;s companions Emil, a bizarre magical weapon created from some crazy experiment (he is over 8480 years old or so at this point) had to clone himself over 9000 times just to fight the aliens, which not only made him lose his mind and memories but also his sanity. Oh and the humans that escaped to the moons turn out to be long dead. When the rest of androids find out, they proceed to kill themselves in a batshit frenzy. To make this sound even more painful and tragic, the androids have the human concepts of pain and emotions programmed to them, making their death even more painful to be felt.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mass Effect&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: While its universe overall is hardly grimdark in any fashion, the Reapers and what happens to &amp;quot;harvested&amp;quot; individuals is some of the sickest forms of grimdark possible. During the Reaper War, billions of people across the galaxy were vaporized, dissolved slowly, and/or converted into robotic, feral slaves.&lt;br /&gt;
** There are many other forms of Grimdark in the relatively Nobledark/Noblebright universe of Mass Effect, one of the most notable being the Genophage, a bioweapon deployed against the Krogan race as to halt the Krogan Rebellions. This bioweapon was basically a massive, permanent genetical Fetus Deletus that drove Krogan birthrates down extensively, leaving them vulnerable to extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Killzone&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, again. The Second Extrasolar War alone deserves its own page of Grimdark: Humanity and their alien descendants, the Helghast, engage in a near-racial war of genocide, more genocide, and even more genocide. Technology has devolved in many areas, and battles turn into endless slaughters as hundreds of thousands of men and women are thrown into a Verdun/Stalingrad hybrid scenario. What&#039;s even more horrible is how literally &#039;&#039;&#039;everyone&#039;&#039;&#039; is evil. Not just the Helghast. Literally all of humanity is warped. The Earth-based UCN? Corrupt and bureaucratic. They want to strangle all their colonies with an iron fist and they intentionally keep the colonial military, the ISA, weaker than it otherwise could be so the centralized military could easily crush them if they rebelled, (UCN cruisers for example are basically dreadnoughts in comparison to those of the ISA), which has caused more than a few problems for the ISA when fighting the Helghast. The Vektans? Hypocritically imperialistic, believing the Helghast deserve to perish for their militarism and (failed) invasion of their planet. The Helghast? Racist, imperialistic genocidal maniacs, believing themselves to be &amp;quot;superior&amp;quot; and even some thinking they need to kill every human in the universe, for &amp;quot;Helghast Purity&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Helghast are a literal representation of a society and people warped by Grimdarkery: The planet of Helghan is inhospitable, forcing almost all its inhabitants to wear gas masks. Society is highly fascist, militaristic, and any form of dissent is met with &amp;quot;reeducation&amp;quot; (A bullet to the head), while the government itself is highly nepotistic, where opportunistic scumbags manipulate Helghast Nationalism for their self-benefit. Also, technology and living standards in the civilian sector is extremely poor, as the majority of the advanced technology went over to the military. &lt;br /&gt;
** The fanbase of the series is certainly odd though due to the fact that this concept that everyone is evil has went completely over their heads and due to the blatantly unfair treatment of the Helghasts (kind that makes the Treaty of Versailles seem all fair and good by comparison) in the lead up and aftermath of the First Extrasolar War, they have a tendency to see the Helghast, despite being the antagonists, [[derp|as the good guys]]. Their totalitarian society and the fact that the Helghast commit more or less every warcrime known to man apparently didn&#039;t make it obvious that this is not so.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Gears of War&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, again. Decades of civil war, genocide and weapons of mass destruction has turned your home planet into a quasi-dead world. The human race is close to extinction, women are reduced to birthing machines, your government is an uncaring fascist scumbag, the weather is often rain consisting of razor sharp ice crystals that could cut you into ribbons, you&#039;re fighting a never-ending war with genocidal monsters from the underground and the world is literally &#039;&#039;&#039;dying&#039;&#039;&#039; from super fuel.&lt;br /&gt;
**To make matters even worse. Even before the Locust War, humanity was locked in a near 80 year war between two rivaling superpowers over the aforementioned super fuel. The COG and the UIR. Both governments are ruthless, imperialistic, fascistic, communistic bastards of a government whose war crimes will make the likes of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany look like amateurs. When even the Locust have a point by calling us out for being exactly the same genocidal monsters as they are, you know Gears of War is fucked. Oh and the planet is called Sera, or Ares when said backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Resistance&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; series, again: Humanity is losing a brutal war of genocidal attrition against a parasitic alien species, the Chimera. Russia, Asia, and nearly all of Europe has been converted into a desolate wasteland, suitable for the Chimera species. Whatever is left of humanity has been driven into cave dwellings. Humans captured by the Chimera are converted into a Chimera Hybrid (Basically the Chimera equivalent of [[Arco-flagellant|Arco-Flagellants]]).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hellgate London&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most of &#039;&#039;&#039;David Bowie&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s songs about 1990.&lt;br /&gt;
* World Devastators in &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Star Wars]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Seriously, if you read about them without knowing that they are from Star Wars, you could easily mistake them for something from 40k. And we&#039;re not talking about Star Wars Legacy and the genocide of the Mon Calamari.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first two &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hellraiser&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; movies&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Event Horizon&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;GANTZ&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Cyberpunk 2020]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Shadowrun]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. While not the worst in the grimdark department, Shadowrun definitely has its moments (the Renraku Archology Shutdown being a prime example); for instance the oppressive megacorporations reducing people to an identification number, with people not having one ([[Derp|for... reasons]]) don&#039;t exist legally.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Hellsing]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;... just all of Hellsing... Though it can easily slide into grimderp. (A little girl seeing her mother killed while hiding in a closet? Yeah that&#039;s intense. In a moment of desperation, shove a rod into the guy&#039;s eyeball, only for him to not be mortally wounded? That&#039;s pretty unfortunate. Said guy deciding to fuck the corpse as his smashed eyeball hangs from the socket? That&#039;s just silly.)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Drifters&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, by the same author. The protagonists are a bunch of [[murderhobo|kill-happy murderhoboes]] drawn from various psychos from all throughout history into [[Isekai|a generic fantasy world]] who have decided to [[Great Crusade|save the world by conquering it, one country at a time]]. One of the major powers of the setting turns out to have been founded by &#039;&#039;Adolph friggin&#039; Hitler&#039;&#039;. Even Joan of Arc, who IRL was noted for being a pacifist, is warped into a bloodthirsty psycho. The [[BBEG]], who wants to kill all humans (and is noted to be a step up from his subordinates, who want to kill [[Necron|everything]]) is all but outright states to be &#039;&#039;Jesus&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bioshock&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bioshock 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (as well as &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bioshock Infinite&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, though it comes hidden behind a smiling facade of barbershop singing and the Fourth of July).&lt;br /&gt;
* Anything from the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Xeelee Sequence]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Interim Coalition of Governance for example, is such a grim-ridden shit-hole that they make the Imperium of Man look like pussies filled with sun-shine and rainbows in comparison and make the [[Adeptus Custodes]] shit themselves in collateral fear. Despite achieving time travel, conquering the entire Universe through xenocide that would make the Necrons look like children and shooting Neutron Stars at .99c at the speed of light, The ICoG is still a minor nuisance compared to the Xeelee and their enemies, the Photino Birds. Stephen Baxter was able to construct the insignificance and petty malevolence of Man in a few books better than GeeDubs more [[Matt Ward|questionable]] [[CS Goto|authors]] did in decades. [[tl;dr]] the IoM wishes they would be as cool as the ICoG.&lt;br /&gt;
** All of Steven Baxter&#039;s works arguably qualify. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Evolution&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; can be summed up as &amp;quot;humanity almost overcame its flaws, fixed the damage it did to Earth, and ushered in a [[noblebright]] future, and it might have worked, but [[Rocks_fall,_everyone_dies|just then a supervolcano erupted, wiped out human civilization, and everyone died]]. The end. There&#039;s even a chapter in the middle of the book outright stating it. Also that humans [[Imperium|are nothing but vicious bastards who rape, kill, and destroy everything they touch]] and have been ever since our ancestors were rats under the feet of dinosaurs, but other animals aren&#039;t much better.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;North Korea&#039;&#039;&#039;, which is essentially [[1984|&amp;quot;Real Life Oceania&amp;quot;]], a totalitarian nightmare almost completely isolated from the rest of the world with a leader whose name you are literally forbidden from saying without the prefix &amp;quot;supreme leader&amp;quot;. Universal conscription is in place for men with service lengths of over ten years from age 17 to 30 (for comparison, in South Korea, where compulsory military service length is also among the highest in the world, the service length is 21 to 24 months depending on the chosen branch). The country has no access to the internet and only has it&#039;s own intranet with government controlled websites. Long gone are the days when the government had any interest in making the country good. Now all they care about is simply staying in power, no matter how much poverty and how many famines the rest of the country has to suffer for it.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Goon&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; comic series by Eric Powell (because circus hillbillies, werewolves with midget hand phobias, and the Zombie Priest are the least of it all).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Children of Men&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: A future where humans are no longer fertile and going extinct, and then someone finds a pregnant woman and nearly everyone in the world fights over her.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; AKA Game of Thrones: Good guys screw up monumentally or never win, the only people who get ahead are amorally manipulative assholes and everyone is going to be massacred and enslaved by the evil ice elf necromancers in the end. And if they somehow survive, then another war for the Iron Throne will happen after the winner gets their revenge-boner satisfied and later, their kids would need to clean up the wankstains.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dishonored&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; - Grimdark, and steampunk. Only in the &amp;quot;Kill fucking everyone&amp;quot; ending though.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Seed&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, Grimdark to the core! the first game is about the main character being fucked in the head. Hr giger&#039;s artwork helps too.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Humanity Fuck Yeah|X-Com]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (The remake and the original, as a parody of the G.I. Joe Badass stereo type, you&#039;re struggling with funding and even your gods in human form, some of whom make certain chapters of Astartes weep, can get fucked over by Sectoids!)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Puella Magi Madoka Magica&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Being Meguca is suffering.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Adventure Time]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s backstory.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Path of Exile&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. The game&#039;s setting is basically a documentary on the corruption of [[Roman Empire]]. Basically there is this continent called the Wraeclast. [[Tomb Kings|The land is pretty much cursed with undeath]] and [[chaos|mutation]] due to Thaumaturgy aka magic in the form of gems that grants ability, which came from the beast, some kind of eldritch abomination living in the mountain and the source of all this evil magic shit. Many great Empire rose and fell on the continent with their own fucked up and downfall. [[Fall of the Eldar|The first empire: The Vaal were somekind of Aztec, Mayan inspired Empire who loves to sacrifice people for power, so much that they were responsible for corrupting the beast, which partly responsible for what Wraeclast is today]]. After that, a new Empire called &amp;quot;the Eternal Empire&amp;quot; was built on top the former and began outlawing Thaumaturgy and gems for the next 1000 years, until a tyrant was throne after he cheat a death maze trial and was killed in a rebellion staged by Voll, who is obsessed with the old purity ideal and decided to trust Malachai, a previous evil asshole Thaumaturgiest employed by the previous Emperor to destroy the beast, the source of all magic (in detail, Voll was convinced by Malachai into thinking that only those who study Thaumaturgy could destory Thaumaturgy). Obviously, [[Nagash|Malachai ended up betraying Voll as well as everyone in the Empire, as well as the godamn world by merge with the beast and unleash a series of cataclysm that made what Wraeclast is today, and the bastard achieve a twisted sense of immortality where he is now but a evil monster living inside the beast, who is obsessed with creating nightmarish monsters]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**Despite the Voll&#039;s fucked up, part of the Empire survived in the form of an island nation south called Oriath. [[Imperium of Man|It was ruled under a Theocratic government. Following the laws of purity  with an iron fist, where they reject impurity so much that anyone who reject their doctrines is met with either slavery, death or exiled to Wraeclast (which the player came to be)]]. [[Nazi|They are also racist, dressed in stylish uniform fashioned with eagle, gold and the typical red armband, all the more reinforce their real life counterpart]]. [[Roman Empire|Since they inherit the previous empire&#039;s slavery culture, they enslave a group of archipelago tribal minority known as the Karui, serving as the Rome equivalent of barbarian tribe slave race for Oriath and oh boy, how Oriath loves to oppress the shit out of them, using them for free labor, torture them, experiment them and putting them in the grand arena as gladiators entertainment]]. They also worship this golden figure with red eyed [[Emperor|called Innocence, who is the major god of Oriath, the Templar&#039;s most beloved GOLDEN subject of worship]] and they believe themselves to be the most pure and &amp;quot;innocence&amp;quot; while calling others like [[heresy|the karui and the heretics to be impure and &amp;quot;Sinned&amp;quot;]].&lt;br /&gt;
***As if things are not bad enough, later game where after the player killed the beast, it awoke the gods from the slumber. Gods, who were once mortal but sold their humanity for power in order to ascend. As a result, the gods are no better than the humans, most them were downright psychopath(there&#039;s a god called Yugul who was once a scholar obsessed with fear that he study about it so much he eventually ascend to godhood, became somekind of four leg walking mouth thing), mentally depressed ([[genestealers|there&#039;s this insect goddess called Ryslatha who is afraid of loosing her children that she makes everyone hers by having her parasite control everything that moves]]) or just a downright bloody warlords (the Karui wargod, who is the one to encourage his tribes man to stop being peaceful and tell them to go kill shit and babies, which are actually Ryslatha&#039;s and is therefore responsible for her ugly transformation). Although some gods were good, they ended up being corrupted by their followers for fuck how longs while the beast forcing them to slumbering away. After their returning, some human made contact with them through their mind radio advertisement, and were made to become their followers, where they were [[chaos|granted mutations (or blessing, some would say)]] and went on their own ape shit rampage across the world to claim their own territories or invade others. Most of the Karui slaves in Oriath ended up getting the worst mutation of all since [[Angron|they worship this Kitava god (an evil Karui god whom was repeatedly punished for his gluttony, yet despite its mouth being mutilated in such way for him to stop consuming anything, he still does and even managed to reach godhood) in order to free from their slavery and shitty treatment from their Templar tormentor]], [[Khorne|all the more powered up Kitava with their desires for vengeance and blood. The slave&#039;s faith for Kitava is so overwhelming that not one on Oriath is safe from Kitava&#039;s power]], even the Templar, after their god Innocence that had been recently decimate by the player are now vulnerable to Kitava influences, that they switched side without a second thought, easily giving up their old faith like the asshole heretic they had always been. The only god who managed to retain its sanity from all this madness is called Sin, Innocence&#039;s brother who is this creepy black winged figure that could make everyone thought of angels of death whenever he pops up. Despite this, he is smart enough to realized the danger of godhood and create the beast in order to force them asleep (this includes his wife and daughter, whom were also deities like him, and were also corrupted that they had to be put down by the player because even Sin finds it painful to kill his own kin and lover). Even after the player has killed all the gods, Wraeclast remains the same, Thaumaturgy and gems still exist, but at least Oriath is no longer rule by an extreme religious organization, right?&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Space Station 13]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; : Space paranoia simulator. Some might not consider this game grimdark, but the lore is set in a dystopian future where capitalism and unforgiving bureaucracy rules the universe, your life is expandable, and the media is controlled; your only choice is working until you die, or getting killed by either rival corporate operatives, space wizards, cultists, deathsquads or spies posing as your co-workers.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Barotrauma&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; : Inspired by Space Station 13, centered on a submarine crew in the underground oceans of Europa. Crew members are expendable, you&#039;re &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; outgunned, the submarine is almost [[Death World|constantly under attack by massive sea creatures]], and most missions are much more likely to end in disaster than success. Also, you explode as soon as you step outside the sub.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;LifeWeb&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; : A complex SS13 spinoff taking place in a cave forteress of a neo-medieval world in the far future, combat is more lethal, and it explores subjects like murder, corruption, rape, torture, cultism and general human suffering.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Pokemon Tabletop Adventures]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (optionally).&lt;br /&gt;
* Original &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grimm&#039;s Fairy Tales&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Hansel and Gretel&amp;quot;, for example).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Alien&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (as in the biomechanical, parasitic, acid-blooded brainchild of Ridley Scott and the late H.R. Giger).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Halo]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (the setting of Halo is one grand scale of a Cosmic Horror Story centered around absolute hopelessness and bleakness of a Universe governed by hyper malevolent gods. Our good guys, the UNSC? It&#039;s a semi-authoritarian &#039;Big Brother is Watching You&#039;, fascistic style government that have no qualms dumping nukes on a civilian population if rebellion is sighted. The UNSC also have no problems dicking over their only alien &#039;friends&#039; to benefit humanity, while also being bogged down in a political quagmire. The Covenant are &#039;&#039;much, much worse&#039;&#039;, while anything from the Forerunner trilogy is just a high concoction of Nightmare Fuel inside a depressing milkshake.&lt;br /&gt;
**Now with [[Halo#Halo Fleet Battles and Ground Command|newly added fluff in the Tabletop Games and other books,]] Halo is going eerily straight down the WH40K route. [[Space Marines|Covenant now having different chapters and sects,]] [[Warp|Slipspace shifting more like space hell,]] [[Inquisition|the UNSC/UEG sending secret police to silence and torture innocents]] [[Abbadon|and an ancient Eldritch A.I. of malevolent aura that shares the same name to a certain armless failure.]] Seriously we ain&#039;t making this shit up! &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Battletech]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Factorio&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Subtle, but, lone human, aliens want to kill you, everything you do makes smog, and your goal is to cover the world in industry, concrete, machines, and gun turrets. The world isn&#039;t dead when you arrive, but you&#039;re damn well going to kill it yourself or die trying.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Kane &amp;amp; Lynch.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Sweet Emperor, Kane &amp;amp; Lynch. Forget your GTAs and Paydays. In it, you control two murderous middle-aged fugitives, one of which is explicitly mentally troubled, and not in a funny way. The kind of true underworld scum that can only be described as genuinely repulsive. That, plus the fact that nothing ever goes right for anyone in the story just adds to it.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Attack on Titan&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (You cannot win, ever. And if you do, you&#039;ve probably lost all your friends, who&#039;ve been eaten by giant freaky Mutants, who don&#039;t even need food. Yeeeah).&lt;br /&gt;
**  To put things bluntly, it turns out even the Titans are perpetually suffering, the whole setting runs on a system of human sacrifice and cannibalism that would make the Aztecs proud, this is a series where facing the apocalypse does &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; bring out the best in humanity but instead remains as fractious, self-destructive, and divisive as ever (which is honestly one of the points of the story), and the leaders of humanity make the [[High Lords of Terra]] look competent. Things are such a clusterfuck with no hope of change that one of the characters has decided the only way things can get better is to wipe out every human that isn&#039;t a member of their ethnic group, and what&#039;s worse the plot seem to be proving them &#039;&#039;right&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Metro&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; series (both the books and games, but mostly in the books, where the last known humans are hiding in underground subway tunnels, and when not trying to finish each other off are fighting endless hordes of [[mutant]]s [[/b/|and other, much worse things]]. Also, if you&#039;re one of the stalkers, the few brave ones that head to the surface to [[Blood Ravens|loot anything they can find]], you risk [[Tyranid|being eaten by flying daemons]]. Hell, it even has [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Metro-2033-Dmitry-Glukhovsky/dp/0575086254 the same &amp;quot;abandon all hope&amp;quot; vibe in the intro], just like 40k. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Note as the books go on the grimdarkness does tone down by showing the areas outside of the city to be in much better living conditions and other metros.(though not all the books are written by the same author). &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Madness Combat&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; - no regret, no remorse, no reason, only [[Khorne|madness]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;LISA the RPG.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Darkness&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; videogames. Fairly average if utterly spoiled gangster is almost killed and inherits an ancient lineage of shadow monsters that feed off of shadows. Said gangster then decides to go on a revenge-killing spree against his uncle who ordered the whole thing while also fighting off the will of the monsters and protecting his girlfriend.  &lt;br /&gt;
* The first two &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hyperion&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; books.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Elfen Lied&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (where the next step of the evolution of mankind is a group of schizophrenic homicidal mutant girls with invisible tentacle hands and a hair-trigger temper who will either kill you in the worst way possible or [[Genestealer|infect you with their gene to increase their numbers]].)  &lt;br /&gt;
* Most of &#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; works.&lt;br /&gt;
** As the joke goes, some people say that Stephen King&#039;s works are so fucked up they should come with a content warning. The reply is that they &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; have a content warning, they have the words &amp;quot;written by Steven King&amp;quot; on the front.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;S.T.A.L.K.E.R.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; You travel a desolate landscape filled with mutants in all the horrific varieties, failed science projects (courtesy of the secret cabal of scientist settled there after USSR&#039; s dissolution), anomalies that you often can&#039;t see and kill you instantly and a lot of renegades/bandits/fanatics/zombies. Your gear breaks all the time, resources are scarce and your goal is to get to the [[Wikipedia:Chernobyl disaster|highly dangerous Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant]], which is also protected by lots of fanatics with the best gear available. If you make it through that hellish place that is The Zone, you&#039;ll likely get one of the 5 really grimdark endings, and if you paid a lot of attention to certain seemingly useless items along the way, you may get one of the other two grimdark endings. The rest of the world largely ignores what&#039;s happening inside The Zone, aside from a few scientists that study the deadly phenomena and the international military that maintains a cordon around The Zone so the nasty stuff doesn&#039;t get out and sometimes send expeditions inside, killing everything and everyone in sight. Also, [[Meme|A NU CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Slenderman Mythos&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (HE ALWAYS WATCHES).&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Mythology#Abrahamic Mythology (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)|Old Testament]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dante|Dante &amp;quot;you hurt my feefees so I&#039;ll put you in hell&amp;quot; Alighieri]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Warp|Inferno]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Put simply short, God is a fucking Sadist. If you suffer from depression/PTSD so much that you commit suicide, God will mutate you into an immortal tree that still feels pain and is constantly torn apart by harpies forever. How merciful. Sinners who committed  Gluttony are punished by being eaten/mutilated alive by Cerberus, who transforms your corpse into slowly regenerating shit mud, all while a costant snowy rain (or rainy snow) hits your head; after being whole again, thou art eaten while trying to flee in despair, and it starts anew.But that&#039;s not the worst punishment. How about being under constant fireball rain in a desert for loving a person of the same gender? And being annihilated by snakes, then rebuilt? Or you find funnier being stuck in the ice? For ever. Because some old dude called Minos decided so. &lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;F.E.A.R.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; series (even the third vanilla-by-comparison game is fucked up).&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Total War: Attila&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Unlike the previous Total War titles, which were about your faction&#039;s rise to power from small backwater city/tribe/country into a mighty empire able to boss around its neighbors into doing your bidding, this one is about the decline of your faction as you desperately try to survive the onslaught of the Huns, who&#039;s sole purpose in the game is to worship Tengri by burning, pillaging, and raping their way through the known world. Particularly if you are the Romans. Winning is defined by being the last guy standing who gets to clean up the rubble and dead bodies, trying to rebuild their world after Attila destroyed it. Seriously, even the music sounds depressing and foreboding as fuck.)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Darkest Dungeon]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Your ancestor awakened some kind of God that is pretty much Cthulhu&#039;s brother and sent you a letter before killing himself, asking you to mop up the huge mess he created. Enjoy sending parties of 4 adventurers ranging from badass lepers to sickle-wielding jesters to their deaths in cultist-infested ruins, sewers filled with mutated cannibalistic pigmen, sea caverns serving as anthropomorphic sea creatures and forests corrupted by evil. And I&#039;m not going to talk about the Darkest Dungeon itself. Also, have fun dealing with those bandits that are raiding the Hamlet for which you spent a fuckton of resources in upgrades.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Day After&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and its worse Brit counterpart, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Threads&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Lord Of War&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. The worst is that it&#039;s based on real events.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[SCP Foundation]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; universe as a whole is borderline grimdark, as many aspects of the Foundation are mixed between absurd comedy, derp, and pure grimdark. At its very worst, the SCP Foundation has things that make the [[Daemonculaba]] look nice by comparison. Above all: [[Inquisition|Secure. Contain. Protect. Imagine a semi-totalitarian world power, funded by world governments to capture and contain anomalous entities, objects and locations so that the rest of mankind can live in a world that makes sense.]] We&#039;re talking animate statues that move when you blink (predating that episode of [[Doctor Who]]) and a creature that kills anyone that sees its face in &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; form. One of the most Grimdark anomalies is a girl pregnant with something that could cause the end of the world if it is ever born and the only way to stop it from being born is to regularly put her through something unimaginably horrible (The author has said that they never will reveal what exactly it is) and periodically erase her memories to make sure she doesn&#039;t get used to it. And not all of these threats can be contained or stopped and are roaming free to harm innocents. And some of the captured SCPs are not necessary hostile or evil, but are still imprisoned in a worse case scenario. Oh, and the apocalypse has already happened several times over, whenever it does humanity is replaced with clones, and they have lost track of how many times they have done this. You can&#039;t even escape by dying, as the most of the possible afterlifes are just as bad if not far worse. While the SCP Foundation tries to avoid being outright bad guys, they are willing to do ANYTHING to keep the world normal and most of the other factions are morally grey at best, and the few good guy factions tend to cause a lot of unintentional harm. But still, [http://www.scp-wiki.net/black-white-black-white-black-white-black-white-black-white Secure. Contain. Protect.] Just another day at the office.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Shisha no Teikoku&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, the Empire of Corpses. Steampunk, Grimdark, Zombies, Cross-References and Conspiracies everywhere. It has even become possible to ressurect the dead, giving them their soul and intelligence back, but only 2 characters profit from it in the end, while everyone else stays a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[https://www.reddit.com/r/theeternalwar/ The Eternal War]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, as the name suggests&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Dystopian Wars]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, as the name suggests&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Clockup Games&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; where you get a firsthand look a sex cult and their destructive side effects.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;World War Z&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (the book). After zombies overran most of the world, many people had it so bad that they simply lost the will to live. Fighting in the Paris Catacombs with weaker weapons that wouldn&#039;t cause a cave-in due to hazardous gasses everywhere. Russian soldiers rioting over unfair treatment and enforced secrecy ordered under pain of death to kill one in ten of their own squadmates - with rocks - to teach them the price of freedom and democracy. Which they then happily traded away. The survival of the human race hinged on governments following a plan including elements of eugenics and leaving settlements of people behind as zombie bait. People resorted to cannibalism to survive in Canada. North Korea entirely vanished without a trace. Pakistan and Iran nuked each other. After the war officially ended, there are still loose zombies wandering around, Russia has started a breeding program to deal with severe underpopulation, several species are extinct, and diseases thought to be wiped out are coming back en masse. &lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Space Runaway Ideon&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Isekai|Re:Zero]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Uzumaki&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Basically a Lovecraftian horror manga where a seaside town gets [[Chaos_Spawn]]d by spirals. Not as weird as it sounds. Or maybe it is as weird as it sounds but not as bad. Also has enough body horror to put most [[Chaos Spawn]] to shame.&lt;br /&gt;
** Pretty much anything by [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junji_Ito Junji Ito.] Except &#039;&#039;Junji Ito&#039;s Cat Diary: Yon &amp;amp; Mu&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Doom]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Demons from Hell have overrun Mars and Earth. You are the lone space marine capable of anything. Somewhat of a subversive case of grimdark: it&#039;s not you who is afraid of demons, [[awesome|it&#039;s the demons who are afraid of you]]. Commence with the [[Rip and Tear]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Armored Trooper Votoms&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, an old-school mech anime. [[Humanity Fuck Yeah|Mankind has been at war for so long that even the computers created to direct strategy don&#039;t know what the goal is]]. War isn&#039;t glorious either, most of the first arc is about a squad that goes rogue and raids their own side&#039;s armory to find some loot. While the mech designs aren&#039;t pretty or fancy, they are more industrial and utilitarian than many contempoaries, being repurporsed exo-suits. The main character is a [[Perpetual]] done right, through a mix of natural regeneration abilities, skills and nigh supernatural luck; unlike, you know, [[Vulkan]], who was just handed something that should have probably belong to all Primarchs just so that he could make [[Horus|some]] [[Sanguinius|people]] [[Ferrus Manus|jealous]]. Take notes, [[Games Workshop|Gros Wotour]], take notes... &lt;br /&gt;
* The &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Prototype&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; games. New York City is infected with a virus created by a generically-unethical corporation called GenTek that mutates people into mutant zombies and/or fucking huge deformed beasts. A secret division called Blackwatch is sent to brutally contain the virus, except it turns out they originally created the virus as a way to purge minorities. This may sound like Resident Evil but the resemblance ends here because you play as Alex Mercer (Prototype 1) and James Heller (Prototype 2), both of them infected by a strain the virus and became superhumans who can shapeshift and gain someone&#039;s memories by consuming them (read violently absorbing them into their bodies) and can grow weapons like claws or a blade arm.&lt;br /&gt;
* Saw: [[Cegorach|I just wanna play a game.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Digimon_Tamers_Nope_Nope_Nope!.jpg|300px|right|thumb|[[RIP AND TEAR|It was going to be a kids show they said. It was going to be as whimsical as Pokemon they said...]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Digimon: Digital Adventures|Digimon Tamers]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. (Digimon as a franchise is noted to be surprisingly dark and adult for a kids anime in the &#039;Mon&#039; genre, but Digimon Tamers is exceptionally depressing even by the series standard. Children attempting suicide, child abuse, attempted murder on a child, multiple on-screen deaths of major characters, torture, psychological mind rape on a young girl, PTSD on said young girl, eldritch abominations, horror and psychological horror. You think Tamers would have a happy ending? Lolnope, Tamers has a bittersweet ending in which the main kids lose their Digimon partners &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;for ever&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;. This is what happens when you allow a guy notorious in psychological horror anime to do a kids show. There is a reason why Tamers is considered the Neon Genesis Evangelion for kids.)&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Digimon Adventure Tri&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (aimed towards adult fans of the series) takes Tamers up a notch in just plain creepyness. Deaths, assisted suicide, infanticide of Digimon babies, psychological damage, grief-induced madness, corruption, attempted genocide, racial supremacy, racism, immense property damage with collateral damage and attempted rape from the series&#039; former mentor and teacher becoming a creepy sexual predator molesting one of the main characters and choking another one to near death (Both female by the way). Digimon doesn&#039;t fuck around.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most good &#039;Real Robot&#039; anime/video games. Further discussion will result in [[skub]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Full Metal Alchemist&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: The World is coated by a side of Noblebright at the beginning but morphs into 1984 the more you watch/read. The world Amestris starts out as fine and dandy (despite being a fascist military Dictatorship (the head of state is literaly called [[nazi|führer]])), then it morphs into a world where the Main Country (Amestris.) is at constant war with almost all it&#039;s neighbors commits Genocides Left and right and Murder&#039;s anyone who finds out the dark truth.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bet On Soldier/Iron Storm&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: WW1 got extended by 80 years, leading to a world where war is everything (including a televised past time), peace is considered a horrifically dissident ideal and there is a shadowy cabal behind the scenes plotting to make the war last forever.&lt;br /&gt;
* Noir in general, from Raymond Chandler&#039;s novels to games like This is the Police.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Magical Girl Site&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (so grimdark it makes Meguca look Noblebright)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wanted&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. A comic book series which inspired the 2008 action flick. The villains won the war against the heroes and completely erased them from reality. The world of Wanted is one of the most horrific comic book series as it deconstructs the &#039;action macho man&#039; of the superhero genre and insults the reader (As in break the fourth wall) if they ever felt like rooting for the &#039;protagonist&#039;. How bad is Wanted? Crime is not only rampant but is actually part of the law, enforced by the Fraternity (Justice League for bad guys), and the only way to even have the closest thing to a &#039;safe and happy life&#039; is by murdering your next door neighbor out of paranoia. Furthermore, as the world is cut up into sections and ruled by different supervillains, you will most likely be born in a country ruled by either a psychotic bastard who shoots children for shits and giggles, a Lex Luthor archetype who hungers for more unrestrained power, a literal Nazi from the future who wants another Holocaust, or a megalomaniac and sociopathic Chinese emperor who makes Mao Zedong like a chump or a completely immortal &#039;President-for-Life&#039; Mugabe expy that will probably rule for eternity.&lt;br /&gt;
** Our &#039;protagonist&#039; is a sociopathic, violent, sadistic rapist who assassinates people in ridiculous violent manners that makes the Punisher, Konrad Curze and Batman look like Constable Care in comparison. His first &#039;character development&#039; was shooting his neighbor in the face because he was too damned nice... yeah... our &#039;heroes&#039; are literally no different than the villains at all. If you could even call them &#039;heroes&#039;. While characters in WH40K and Gears of War commit atrocities usually because they have a reason, idea or dogma behind their actions, the villains of Wanted commit them because [[Lulz|they felt like it.]] Don&#039;t even get us started with the supervillains who are so repulsive that they are barely redeemable. Wanted is one of those franchises that just makes you &#039;&#039;feel&#039;&#039; like a bastard for even trying to &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;root for anyone.&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; In terms of the moral scale, if DC is the classical Black and White franchise and Marvel is the classical Grey and Gray franchise, than Wanted is the classical Black and Black franchise. [[Chaos]] wishes it could be this efficiently evil.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grim Dawn&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. In a world called Cairn there is magic, monsters, and humans using 19th century tech. A group of mages failed some sort of ritual and accidentally called in a ghost called an Aetherial, setting off a chain of events that would lead to the &amp;quot;Grim Dawn&amp;quot;. They invaded the world by possessing many creatures and humans for their own world domination plan, and the ensuing chaos allowed the Cthontic Cult (Mix Khorne and Slaaneshi pain cults) to come out of the shadows just as the Aetherials started getting shit done. This results in a never ending struggle between humans and multiple otherworldly powers. An optional meeting with a god from the universe tells the player that there are many gods watching this world and none of them, him included, gave a shit about their followers since this is just one of many realities they observe and the tragic event is nothing more than a normal day for him. So players have to fight through undead ([[Tomb Kings|who are cursed to forever linger in the world, only to get back up as soon as they are defeated]]), a land corrupted by the aether&#039;s green shit that is as harmful as the warp itself, and a crimson forest filled with Cthonic Cultists. The factions of the &#039;Good Guys&#039; aren&#039;t much better either. There is either a necrophiliac ice ninja that will enslave the dead or a pretentious templar order whose god is just as bad as the others. The only hope lies in survivors from the aetherial encounters that gained unnatural powers which may potentially corrupt them in the process. Nothing will ever change though since the world now is filled with horrifying creatures and humanity is reduced to pockets of bandits squabbling over the pitiful remnants of their civilization. Invasions are still going strong despite your efforts at the very end of game and other gods are ready to back stab, corrupt, raid and torment every living creature in the world for their own selfish needs.&lt;br /&gt;
** The new expansion &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Ashe of Malmouth&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; adds more grimdark and even a rare instance of sick fuckery in modern video game. The city Malmouth is said to be the first place hit with Aetherials forces so the entire place is nothing but a fucked up zombie town with buildings made out of human flesh. But before the player can get to that &amp;quot;fun party&amp;quot; however, they would need to cross the jungle, bog place of Ugdenbog, a wild swamp and evil infested shithole filled with cannibals and witches that got gangbang from both the Aetherials and Cthontic forced during the grim dawn. You are even allow to side with the local cannibals in Barrowholm (a much lesser evil mind comapre to the Cthontic and Atherial mind you). Once you got to Malmouth, the true sick fuckery begin. The local Aetherials had spare a few human survivors just so they could hunt them down and replenish for their needs of flesh. What&#039;s worst is that they have abducted local females (especially younger one) and use them as breeding cattle to produce more &amp;quot;test subject&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;soldiers&amp;quot;. Doesn&#039;t that sounds like [[Daemonculaba]]? It also means that the enemies like Aetherial Scamp and Aetherial Imp, those little shit that are the size of a child you fought  are actually.....yeah, I&#039;m done with this shit.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Peter Watts&#039;&#039;&#039;. Brutal neuropunk sci-fi horror, as bleak as H. P. Lovecraft but with a list of scientific citations at the end to let you know just how realistic it really is. Hits you with a world-ending catastrophe and then manages to make it a thousand times worse -- an alien invasion DURING a hard-takeoff singularity, for example. Sociopathy and post-human augments abound. [http://www.rifters.com/real/shorts.htm Also, the books are free!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Armored Warfare&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Terrorist/ultra-nationalist/anarchists with tanks, corporations that rule and enslave large portions of the world and the rest of the world might as well be a wasteland, as far as we know.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pandora from the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Borderlands&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; games. A whole planet covered in tonnes of rubbish, industrial equipment, pollution and debris from mining operations by huge intergalactic corporations. A classic example of unregulated capitalism where the few inhabitants (mostly from the abandoned mining operations) fight for survival against hideously mutated and highly dangerous wildlife and go completely mental in the process. What little rational civilisation there is is constantly under attack from all sides, including by the Hyperion corporation which wants to purge the planet of all life and start again from scratch. To do this the [[BBEG]] has built an army of robots and seeks to awaken an ancient, all-powerful, immortal, alien warrior ([[Derp|which, as it turns out, is very easy to kill]]). Pandora is essentially a [[Death World]]. [[Herp|And people still go and live in this shithole]] just to search for hidden caches of [[Pretend|ancient alien technology]]. TL;DR Australia on steroid with alienz lmao.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Call of Duty: Black Ops 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Homefront&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (the game, not the similarly-named but unrelated movie)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Made in Abyss&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. It is one of those [[Trap]] anime/manga that fools unsuspecting viewers into watching a cute, whimsical Studio Ghibli esque show filled full of wonder and adventure....what the series &#039;&#039;&#039;WON&#039;T&#039;&#039;&#039; tell you is the amount of Grimdark it would throw at you at the most unsuspecting turn. You want to see cute moe loli children getting tortured, horribly disfigured, experimented on, brutally killed, discarded and abused? Made in Abyss got your back! You want to see a [[Deathworld]] so extreme it even kills you when you think of trying to escape? Made in Abyss is completely centered around that! You want to see a society run on child labor, in which death and injury is so common that a 12 year old knows how to amputate an arm and be unfazed by dead bodies? Made in Abyss is proud to include these! You want to see a [[Nazi|Josef Mengele Cosplayer]]/[[Awesome|Evil Daft Punk]]/[[Furry|Super Furry Loli Fetishist]]/[[Meme|Completely Best Dad EVAR!]] as the main villain? Made in Abyss is a proud sponsor of this! You want to have a deep and dark philosophy on how deep one&#039;s humanity can go before completely losing it and what counts as truly human before succumbing to the human excess of wants, needs and pride? Made in Abyss have plenty to showcase this! You want to see what would happen when Laputa&#039;s Flying Castle and Madoka Magica fucked Berserk? Made in Abyss is the end result of their sweaty lust! You want to hear absolutely beautiful music and see eye-poppingly gorgeous art which is contrasted against the raw, brutal and savage realities of the setting? Made in Abyss would win over you! You want to get emotionally attached to a bunch of [[Furry|moe furries]] and [[Fist of the North Star|cry manly tears]] without feeling too dirty? Don&#039;t worry, we in /tg/ can tolerate it... just about...&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. A manga/anime film made by Hayao Miyazaki, yes you heard us right. The man who was the main founder of Studio Ghibli and gave us childhood gems such as Tortoro, Spirited Away and Ponyo, gave us a Science-Fantasy Epic of the brutality of war. Sure there was Princess Mononoke, but that was basically a spiritual sequel to Nausicaa. The setting of Nausicaa is centered around a post-apocalyptic [[Deathworld]] in which humanity had nuked itself back into the early renaissance via kilometer tall, biomechanical, nuclear-firing [[Exterminatus|GOD-WARRIORS.]] Most children don&#039;t make it to adulthood and the remaining human civilizations are on the verge of collapse due to scarcity of resources and the ever growing encroachment of the Sea of Death/Corruption, a forest of highly toxic fungal jungles and incredibly violent mega-insects that goes [[RAGE|completely anal if you dare pluck a &#039;Shroom or two.]] To make matters worse, [[Adeptus Mechanicus|the state of technology has been declining over the years either due to loss of knowledge]] [[FATAL|or the sheer amount of dead children failing to reach the proper age to spread such knowledge.]] Nausicaa, especially the manga, does not shy away from human slavery, biological WMDS, genocides, nuclear holocaust, a gratuitous amount of inferred and overt infanticides, inquisitorial purging and the likes. By far the most mature and grittiest of Miyazaki&#039;s works. The one main thing that Nausicaa stands out from the rest is its titular character. Princess Nausicaa is an actual pacifist and a self-impose Jesus archetype. Yet despite such [[Noblebright]] characteristics, she is an absolute &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;BADASS&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Nausicaa may hate fighting and war, but she is not afraid to split some heads open and gut your belly empty. She is also a surrogate mother for a giant walking WMD and a surrogate big sister for a psychic boy with the [[PROMOTIONS|assets to boot;]] this gives her extra brownie points for being [[Awesome]]. Seriously, Merida and other Princesses has nothing on this chick.&lt;br /&gt;
**Because of the fact that Nausicaa for all intents and purposes, kickstarted the foundation of Studio Ghibli in the first place, its influence had a profound impact on Ghibli&#039;s future works. It basically was the progenitor of every Ghibli trope imaginable. You got the strong female heroine and her equally strong and capable male deuteragonist? check. A setting based upon fantastical elements and a blatant anti-war/pro-environmentalist message? check. Giant, awesome planes? check. Scenery populated by eye-candy artwork? check. A quirky, animal side character? check. The bad guys being revealed to be either not so evil/misunderstood/have morally grey beliefs? check. Furthermore, Nausicaa influenced other works such as the Chocobos from Final Fantasy being a complete copy of Nausicaa&#039;s Horseclaws, as well as the God-Warriors being the main inspiration of the motherfucking &#039;&#039;EVAs&#039;&#039; (Seriously, the main creator behind Evangelion first got the idea after animating the God-Warriors for Nausicaa. Seriously look it up, the resemblance is uncanny).&lt;br /&gt;
** Another studio Ghibli film called &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Grave of the Fireflies&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is far worse.  The plot of film is &amp;quot;A pair of orphans starve to death in Japan at the end of WWII.&amp;quot; That is the entire plot. This movie utter torture to watch and a great reminder of why war may be fun in games but is the worst thing imaginable in real life.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.synthiciderpg.com/ Synthicide]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. &amp;quot;When robots are gods, killing humans is fair game.&amp;quot; In the deep darkness of the far, post-mutagen virus future, Human life is worthless (Murder and theft against them and each other is entirely legal), murder of sentient bots (Who are given free-range to torment humans with impunity after being let go from service to the major faction that makes them), however is one of the greatest offenses, and one the PC&#039;s are bound to commit at some point in their careers. Also, everything has a black and white color pallete.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Destiny/Destiny 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s backstory. Basically, there was a very short-lived race of people called &amp;quot;The Krill&amp;quot; which lived only ten years on a planet called Fundament (fair note, Fundament is a gas giant, and Jupiter&#039;s orbit takes 10 years. So the Krill may have lived to a few hundred). There was a ruler called the Osmium King, and a traitor named Taox killed him. His daughters, Xi Ro, Aurash, and Sathonna took a ship to the planet&#039;s core where they met the Worm Gods, or Ahamkara. What happened is that the [[Khorne|Worm Gods grant immortality, but in order to become immortal you have to kill or the worm will eat you]], this was called The Sword Logic, and the Krill were re-named The Hive after killing that fucking traitor Taox. They proceeded to exterminate every living thing in the galaxy, [[Xeelee Sequence|harboring xenophobia and militarism which would make the Imperium look tolerant and pacifist in comparison]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The aftermath of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Avengers: Infinity War&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. After the [[Rubric Marines|battledust]] settles, no one really wins at the end of the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Spec Ops: The Line&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, due to disguising itself as a run of the mill shooter, but disregard for orders and going in all guns blazing in quest of &amp;quot;becoming a hero&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;saving everyone&amp;quot;, unlike most FPS, rather realistically leads from bad to worse, resulting in the player committing vile acts and outright war crimes. At the time of its release, its atmosphere and presentation made it a standout. Due to being heavily reliant on the player having no foreknowledge that it&#039;ll drown them face-first in the horrors of war, the game has undergone a sort of &amp;quot;Rosebud effect&amp;quot;, and at worst can be considered grimderp. Granted, even then it&#039;s far less so than the examples below, and can be considered a period piece of sorts whose themes retain relevance.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Suffering&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Suffering: Ties that Bind&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Two messed up stories about an unwell guy who may or may not have murdered his family tries to survive the worst prison in all of Maryland while it&#039;s being infested by nightmarish creatures symbolic of the countless atrocities committed on it (Being not only a prison, but also the former site of a WWII POW camp run by a paranoid lunatic, an old-timey mental institution run by an...eccentric who still haunts the place, and a puritan village that saw it&#039;s own recreation of the Salem Witch Hunts). The sequel sees the man in equally worse surroundings as Baltimore has it&#039;s own infestation of the monsters symbolic of the city&#039;s corruption and is now haunted not only by two deranged murderers, but also a figure from his past who supposedly know the truth about his family.&lt;br /&gt;
** In &#039;&#039;Ties That Bind&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s implied that &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; city of decent size has the potential to be turned into a haunted hellscape. Because humans are shitty and have been doing shitty things to each other for all of recorded history, and hence &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; city has a number of bloodsoaked ghosts created by atrocities and desperate for vengeance.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first two seasons of &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Animals of Farthing Wood&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, a animated series for kids &#039;&#039;infamous&#039;&#039; for having graphic depictions of violence and a death rate of major characters on par with Game of Thrones. Though somewhat at the low end of the Grimdark spectrum, the fact this show was for kids earns it major points for being grimdark. The third series noticeably toned down on the Grimdark elements and ended up being the least well regarded. Notable deaths in the series include but are not limited to:&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Pheasants&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, a couple of, well, pheasants who die at a farm in an extremely cruel manner. First, the wife is forced by her husband to take his watch and is spotted by the farmer, then shot. The husband, overcome with grief, elects to go back and find Adder, hoping to atone for causing his wife&#039;s death. Instead, he sees the cooked corpse of his wife and breaks down in tears, unable to pull himself together and is also shot dead by the farmer.&lt;br /&gt;
** Three baby mice are born in one episode. The very next episode they are all killed onscreen by a shrike, a bird infamous for impaling its prey, [https://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/2016/10/9nsgawb.png/ as seen here].&lt;br /&gt;
** The hedgehogs, while trying to cross a road, have to fight not to curl up into a ball... but eventually, the husband goes crazy, unable to stop himself from curling up, and his wife elects to stay with him, leading to both their deaths when a lorry runs them over.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Ava&#039;s Demon&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, a webcomic who&#039;s cutesy style doesn&#039;t hide how fucking dark this world can be. For starters, in the opening itself, a planet is destroyed by Silent Scavengers, which are Tyranids and Necrons mixed together, then the main character ends up impaled when they crash land, her soul going to turn into space dust until she agrees to help the demon who&#039;s been possessing her since she was born to get revenge on TITAN, who can at best be described as the God-Emperor if he were every negative stereotype about the Imperium taken to the extreme and then some. How bad is TITAN? It&#039;s implied he turned a star into a black hole solely because of its planets inhabitants wouldn&#039;t do what he wants. And trust us, things can only get worse in this setting.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dragon Ball Z: History of Trunks&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Could just be expanded to Trunks&#039; timeline in general. Dragon Ball has always been known as a sort of noble bright anime, but &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039;, damn. Everyone is either dead, dying, or living in fear of two walking machines of pure evil. And then when Trunks does actually take care of his enemies, another more powerful one shows up and just sends everything back to the way it was. Even the parody of this movie is oddly depressing.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Power Rangers RPM&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; plays with this trope, being what is effectively &#039;&#039;Terminator&#039;&#039; meets &#039;&#039;Mad Max&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;for kids.&amp;quot; It is still Power Rangers, and does still have its fair share of comic relief, but this is also the season where a young girl is brainwashed into becoming a child soldier for Skynet and HAL 9000&#039;s demented love child, while also having her humanity stripped away and replaced with cold metal. That&#039;s not even starting to mention the fact that most of the planet is wiped out, with billions dying over the course of what seems like a few weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Postal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Not the sequels, which play the violence for laughs and topical humor, or the crap Uwe Boll movie, just the first game and it&#039;s remake (&#039;&#039;Postal Redux&#039;&#039;). Once you get past all the shock and outrage of being a forefather of the [[Satanic Panic|&amp;quot;Ban Violent Video Games&amp;quot;]] movement, you&#039;ll realize that this game is genuinely fucked up with its imagery and the protagonist is a mentally unwell individual.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Resistance : Fall of Man.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Romero&#039;s &amp;quot;Dead&amp;quot; series&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, especially the later entries. &#039;&#039;Night&#039;&#039; is grim for the heroes, even if the overall story ends somewhat happily with the zombies taken care of. On the other hand, &#039;&#039;Dawn&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Day&#039;&#039; are much darker, with zombies overrunning society, and though both end on positive notes, the journey there is a grim fight for survival. Most of the heroes die in &#039;&#039;Dawn&#039;&#039; (all of them if you count the depressing alternate cut), and in &#039;&#039;Day&#039;&#039; most of the characters, even the heroes, are hateful, unhinged, and/or just plain crazy.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Requiem for a Dream&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. If you have seen this movie, this is self-explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Blakes 7&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. The BBC broadcast this against coronation street. And it was written by Terry Nation. It opens with a show trial after the hero gets set up to join a terrorist cell post mind wipe, gets accuses of paedophilia, and then exiled to the world of warhammer where Brian Blessed is king of the cult of scientology. Then you get 4 seasons of basically terrorists fighting the evil space empire, with the worlds most sarcastic computer, special effects that make your mates larp when they were 14 years old look high budget (ffs the federation are armed with caulking guns and some pipe). It&#039;s fucking GLORIOUS.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Promised Neverland&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. An anime/manga about a bunch of cute children raised in a nice orphanage, that is really a farm set up by demons who raise the children as food. Hence the &amp;quot;Neverland&amp;quot; part of the title, the children don&#039;t grow up, because they are killed by monsters. A handful girls get to survive until adulthood by getting selected to act as mothers to children, but they are still prisoners who can&#039;t leave the farm. If they are unlucky they will have to watch over their own children until the day they are killed.&lt;br /&gt;
** The world outside the farms is even worse. A thousand years ago the world was divided between humans and demons. The children are in the demons&#039; half. Demons used to hunt humans until the two sides made a truce where the world was divided in two halves to keep peace and humans were handed over to the demons to farm as food and the wealthy family of humans who made the deal are out to kill the escaped children to uphold it. Demons actually need to eat humans or they degenerate into mindless animals that attack everything in sight, except of the demon nobility thanks to them consuming blood that removed the need. And they still insist on hoarding the best quality human meat for themselves while leaving the commoners to feed on meat from humans raised on factory farms where the humans are force fed until they die. This inferior quality meat isn&#039;t enough to keep demons from degrading and so the demons&#039; human allies are doing horrifying expirements to produce better quality meat. Something could have been avoided if the demon nobility didn&#039;t make sure that only they were free from dependence on human meat as means of maintaining their control with their supply of meat, because as you can probably tell, they don&#039;t care about the commoners.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dorohedoro&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Described by its own author as &amp;quot;a song with really dark lyrics, but a melody that&#039;s so happy that you want to dance to it&amp;quot;. So happy grimdark? The title can literally be translated as &amp;quot;from shit to shit&amp;quot;. Seriously, the setting wouldn&#039;t look out of place among a 40k [[hive world|underhive]]. The entire setting is a massive slum, with horrible pollution, mass poverty, and human body parts polluting the waterways. Your options for living are being a normal human, living in poverty and treated like toys, lab rats, and livestock by the various magic users. Or being a [[psyker|magic user]], and either be lynched by the terrified normies or captured by other magic users and boiled down to make drugs. And if you&#039;re a magic user, regardless of how good you are when you die you&#039;re [[Warp|guaranteed to be sent to hell to be tortured by devils for all eternity]] ([[Daemon Prince|unless you become a devil yourself]]). Or being a devil, and worry about being [[Tzeentch|screwed over by your boss for shits and giggles]] or eaten by Store, who is implied to be an angel and treats devils the same way devils treat mortals. Or being said boss, [[Necron|and dick around with people for all eternity because you&#039;re absolutely bored with existence]], can&#039;t die, and are horribly lonely since you can&#039;t form a meaningful bond with anyone else. Of course &amp;quot;your options&amp;quot; being metaphorical in this sense, since you are either born a normal human or magic user and can&#039;t change who you are (which is a major plot point for several characters). Three of the most moral people in the entire setting are a mob boss and two different flavors of serial killer. Even when the normal people manage to fight back by [[God-Emperor|creating a god through the merger of thousands of souls of those killed by magic users]], it immediately tries to kill &#039;&#039;everyone&#039;&#039; just to end its suffering. The only time the weather changes in the series is when it rains, which causes magic users to fall sick because it&#039;s the manifestation of the will of said god and if you&#039;re a magic user it &#039;&#039;hates&#039;&#039; you. Well, at least the food is good.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Lobotomy Corp/Library of Ruina&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Two game made by a Korean game studio named Project Moon, known for its dark setting. [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2098034966 I have decided to leave most of the detailed explanations to this guide here to avoid further paragraph bloat.] To put it simply, the first game: &#039;&#039;&#039;Lobotomy Corp&#039;&#039;&#039;, is about a corporation trying to harvest energy from monsters that was extracted from human&#039;s mind: Abnormalities. Each Abnormalities has special powers to mess with people&#039;s mind or just straight up killing people in very gruesome way and the corp&#039;s employee has to suppress them. [[SCP Foundation|Does that sounds familiar?]] it gets worse. SPOILER ALERT: It turns out the energy is not to only used to power other corporation&#039;s devices, it is also used to power up some kind of positive energy beacon that spread its power aka light to everyone in the city just so they could feel hope and be &amp;quot;saved&amp;quot;. The plan failed several times due to Abnormalities were failed to contained and suppressed. The reasons why the plan can be carried failed despite its constant failure was due to a certain time control technology that could rewind the time back before the incidents happened. As you can see, the guy that was managing this shithole has to go through this tiresome process, witness his employees&#039; death again and again until he finally reached a satisfy conclusion. The employees that died were revived from every time rewind without ever remember their death, but not the managers, nor the Sephiroth, whom were brain jar robots that oversees their own department. As you can see, suffering from constant rewind has made them lose their mind with made them sometimes throwing fit, forcing the manager to tell them to calm their ass down. There was this robotic AI waifu assistant that were created to help managing the place. For some reasons, she was given the abilities to feel emotions just so she could experience the same cruel passage of time and the scenery of Abnormalities killing the employees, driving her nut. It was made all the painful for her since she can perceive time in even slower rate, making her torture all the more painful. So just why is it the corp decided to went through all this tragedies and tortures to save peoples that doesn&#039;t understood their suffering? why do the the city people needs to be saved?&lt;br /&gt;
** Now things gets interesting in the second game: &#039;&#039;&#039;Library of Ruina&#039;&#039;&#039;. Turns out everyone living in the city has become &amp;quot;ill&amp;quot;, as in mentally depress to the point they could not have any free will to do anything they like. The world they lived in is controlled by Corporations: &#039;&#039;&#039;Wings&#039;&#039;&#039;, who holds the most power and they forced everyone to pay expensive taxes or else get fucked by their scheme. This unfair demand created a huge poverty circle, forming countless of &#039;&#039;&#039;Backstreets&#039;&#039;&#039; where death and crimes became the norm. In order to pay tax, people results other ways to earn steady incomes. Some becomes a &#039;&#039;&#039;Fixer&#039;&#039;&#039;, mercenaries police man who would fight for anyone with money (Note: there are no functional police department in the setting). Some became part of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Syndicates&#039;&#039;&#039;, Fixers&#039; criminal counterpart who earn money by doing crime instead. Note that neither Fixers or Syndicates members has any choice but to keep climbing their rank. Sure the higher their rank, the better their living conditions becomes, but it is a never ending grind that will eventually results to their death or depression to the point of suicide. Move on to the upper class: &#039;&#039;&#039;The Nest&#039;&#039;&#039;. People who lives in The Nest are rich and well educated, but says who? Like the Fixers and the Syndicates, they are forced to climb their social ladder in order to survive, and the dangers of Syndicates still exist in some isolated area of The Nest. Worse is that the corporations they&#039;ve worked for often use them as test subject to test their super precious technology: &#039;&#039;&#039;Singularity&#039;&#039;&#039; and see how much they get fucked up. Basically, office wage slaves with higher mortality rate. Speaking of Singularity, it is futuristic technology like nanomachines, devices so advance, it is as if they were taken from sci-fi movies. Despite their usefulness however, it has dark side to them, like REALLY DARK. For example, there are these trains that are capable of transferring passengers to other place in 10 seconds. What happened was that the passengers were actually stuck inside the train for 2000 fuckoff years. During that time, the passenger&#039;s body states just stopped functioning, like unable to feel pain as if the &amp;quot;time&amp;quot; for their body just stopped. After 100 days, they began tear eachothers&#039; flesh parts out of boredom or insanity, to the point they eventually tearing themselves into flesh bits that merges with one another. By the time the train had arrived, the agents sent from the corp had to &amp;quot;restore the passengers&amp;quot; using time control Singularity power from the corp they&#039;ve partnered with, restoring their body states back to when they were but 10 seconds on the train, as if [[Just as Planned|nothing ever happened]]. With such dangerous technology in their hand, who is there to control The Wing? meet &#039;&#039;&#039;The Head&#039;&#039;&#039;, the shit head that put everyone in their misery. They are the one with the absolute power in the setting. Having the best combat force, the power over The Wings and the being giant rat that made all other rules. It is hinted that they intended for humans in the setting to suffer under the stresses of survival and death, as if they were treating the humans in the city like test subjects inside a ecosystem they had created. Although it was revealed they have [[Imperial Truth|strong obsessions with philosophies that defines humanity]] and [[Men of Iron|dislike for machines that look and act like humans]], not much about them has been revealed yet. They were known for shaping the world that is today with their armies of &#039;&#039;&#039;Arbiters&#039;&#039;&#039;, [[Officio Assassinorum|Singularity-infused assassins]] who is so powerful, one of them could take on everyone in The Wing. Other than Arbiters, they have their own super fixers called &#039;&#039;&#039;The Claw&#039;&#039;&#039;, who are comparable to a high grade Fixers but in larger numbers. They also have the &#039;&#039;&#039;The Eyes&#039;&#039;&#039;, agents (or somekind of telescreen hologram as it was revealed in the final reception) that [[1984|report The Head for any potential tax evaders as well as any potential threats by surveillance the masses]]. No one fucks with The Head. NO ONE. All these are just a tip of the ice berg to how shitty life is in this setting. It gets potentially worse as &#039;&#039;&#039;Distortions&#039;&#039;&#039;, Abnormalities monsters from the first game that were made in the city due to the failed result from the 1st games and are now roaming the city to further spike up the mortality rate, making everybody&#039;s live even more miserable. Despite that, the Fixers still demands payment to kill them (which a new association was created to deal with them according to the ending) and The Head refused to even lend a hand in dealing with them (because distortions is considered a product of humanity, which is much more tolerable when compared to robots who act like humans). Oh and it is impossible to not live in the city, for the outside lies the &#039;&#039;&#039;Outskirts&#039;&#039;&#039;, where monsters, robotic death machines and other abominations created from fail experiments resides. It is a wasteland composed of pretty much everywhere but the city, caused by the constant resource wars from the past and it is literary impossible for humans to lived in there. Even if it could, it would be filled with hostile exiles, outlaws or whatever god fosaken engineered intelligent species.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Warframe&#039;s lore.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; What&#039;s so dark about Warframe? You&#039;re a space ninja which just chops stuff up and shoots right? Oh you&#039;re DEAD wrong. The main characters, the Tenno, are survivors of an accident when a ship tried to use a metaphysical realm called [[warp|The Void]] to perform a faster-than-light jump to Tau Ceti (which was previously terraformed for their arrival). And what do we know about using metaphysical realms to travel faster-than-light? It goes [[Gellar Field|fuckingly bad]], invest in a warp drive. &lt;br /&gt;
**The Tenno were discovered by the Orokin, [[that guy|pansy hedonistic little faggots]] which sent them there, and then treated like absolute shit. The only person who treated the Tenno with absolute respect was a scientist called [[this guy|Margulis]]. When the robots sent to terraform Tau Ceti, the Sentients, evolved intelligence and came back to crush the Orokin, their built-in weakness was void stuff, which the Tenno were full of. After a victory  over the Sentients, the Tenno |bitchslapped the Orokin and bludgeoned them like the fucks they are.&lt;br /&gt;
***The Orokin are just a bunch of [[Marines Malevolent|shitbags in general]]. They treated Tenno, Lorist healers, and Grineer like absolute shit until they need their help. They execute scientists when they fail to produce results, because a GREAT way of increasing productivity is executing a scientist who is doing the work. And the way they maintain their immortality is by capturing children, and mind-raping them to download their own consciousness into theirs. The reason that they couldn&#039;t control the Warframes and needed the Tenno to do so is because they [[that guy|lack basic human empathy]], they just abuse and torture everyone under them.&lt;br /&gt;
**The Grineer were slaves to the Orokin which are now free, and are now absolutely terrorizing the system. They&#039;re a bunch of rotten clones which are highly augmented, and they kill everyone who isn&#039;t them, which aren&#039;t any better. Then there are the Corpus, who are greedy money-grubbers who care only for profit, and imprison a colony of debt-bondage slaves called &amp;quot;Solaris.&amp;quot; And so on. Pretty much all Post-Orokin civilizations are pieces of shit.&lt;br /&gt;
***And if evil bureaucrats, and shitty clones who want to kill everything that isn&#039;t them bad enough, we have the Infected, which are a [[Tyranids|hive mind of twisted forms that kill everything they can stick their bloody tendrils into]], bottom line is, Warframe is a shitty place.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Unhallowed Metropolis]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, a game representing probably the outer limits of how Grimdark you can go without sliding into Grimderp.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fragged Cyberpunk&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;: A prequel to the more optimistic Fragged Empire. Fragged Cyberpunk focuses on the twilight years of humanity as Habsburgian levels of genetic erosion and degradation leave it only a few centuries of life, while the powers that be, that could cure it do not bother and instead focus their efforts on terraforming hospitable worlds for their new, engineered super species. allthewhile herding humans into cramped cities on dead planets that are effectively concentration/death camps for what remains of mankind.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grimderp ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote| Why don&#039;t people band together to fix things? Because GRIMDARK. Why hasn&#039;t an external system supplanted the current, barely functioning one? Because GRIMDARK. How does such a woefully inefficient system manage the logistical nightmare of endless total war? Because I murdered a baby seal, that&#039;s why! You should feel bad.|Terrible Writing Advice (The GRIMDARK Episode)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Grimderp is what happens when a writer takes grimdark so far that it goes [[derp]]. The writer puts something in that makes the setting more grimdark, but it&#039;s generally reliant on at least one party involved [[Fail|suddenly abandoning all sense of reason and logic]], or else caused by a lack of forethought on the implications of how the element interacts with the world. Many long-runner grimdark works will become this sooner or later, as either the setting or the cast&#039;s morality (rather a usually extreme lack thereof) will induce complete and utter apathy in the audience and cause them to give up out of sheer pointlessness. Most &amp;quot;dark&amp;quot; anime/manga tend to be more or less grimderp, as attempts to attract mature audiences ends in violence, blood, and sex without consequence (at BEST, mind you), all in gratuitous quantities. &lt;br /&gt;
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To be clear, grimderp is not just that something is &amp;quot;dark&amp;quot; or that a character behaves stupidly. Human beings make dumb, short-sighted, irrational, and morally objectionable decisions all the time, just crack open about any book on human history. Grimderp is when a character breaks character to do something they would normally never do or engage in behavior that is logistically impossible [[Gav Thorpe|(&amp;quot;there are as many elves as the plot demands&amp;quot;)]], simply &amp;quot;because it&#039;s dark&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Last of Us: Part 2, the sequel to the critically acclaimed The Last of Us, is Grimderp in its purest form: Characters prolong suffering simply out of the blue. Basic logic is thrown out as countless characters dive headfirst into a rabbit hole of violence, suffering, and depression, often to the point of [[Edgy|literal edginess]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* The Dothraki of &amp;quot;[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]&amp;quot;. We are asked to believe that an entire culture can sustain itself by raiding settled people (when the Mongols and Plains Indians they&#039;re based on hunted and herded large animals), and then &#039;&#039;killing and not even selling or eating the livestock&#039;&#039;, solve literally all their disputes with murder and defeat their enemies with mass charges (despite real nomads having small populations, and winning battles with cavalry skill and/or surprise). At the point where the author says that &amp;quot;a wedding without at least three deaths is considered a dull occasion&amp;quot; and mentions warriors casually raping dancers, the whole thing just looks like an [[edgy]] [[Magical Realm]] based on &amp;quot;hordes of eastern savages&amp;quot; cliches.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[My Little Pony|Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons]] is a fanfiction about magical ponies so grim, dark, and derp that it would almost be comical if it wasn&#039;t so fucking horrifying. With characters that get shit on (both figuratively and literally) more than the [[Lamenters]], and with a world so bleak (and missing the point of Fallout, FiM, &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; the original Fallout: Equestria) that an heroing &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;seems like&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; WOULD ACTUALLY BE the happiest ending (&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Assuming it will end, it probably never will as long as there&#039;s enough cybernetics to keep rebuilding the constantly-dying protagonist)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; HOLY SHIT IT ACTUALLY ENDED!), it&#039;s the prime example of how to make readers stop giving a fuck about the story at all.&lt;br /&gt;
* On that note, 90% of all grimdark fics are grimderp since writers are under the impression that [[Edgy|just making things dark makes it good writing]]. There are exceptions, but they are rare, because Sturgeon&#039;s Law is a thing. On the flip side, however, [[DOOM: Repercussions of Evil|certain examples]] have reached the apotheosis of Grimderp and become gut-bustingly hilarious.&lt;br /&gt;
* Warhammer 40,000 gets called out as this by some. Certainly it&#039;s a valid criticism of certain parts, but as we said earlier, [[Skub|you could argue about what is and is not grimderp in 40k for weeks without conclusion.]] For example, the Imperium is excessively self-destructive and tyrannical to its own people, but in the hands of a good writer, it&#039;s meant to underline how corrupt and desperate the Imperium has become without the Emperor&#039;s guidance, and how even those who are neither incompetent nor malicious still have to make brutally difficult choices. In the hands of a lesser writer, it&#039;s unnecessary evil purely for the sake of evil. We should call our next book &amp;quot;[[C.S. Goto|Darkness of Darkest Dark!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** Historically, the Grail myths drift, not from [[Imperial Truth|Christian sources]], but Celtic ones (and beyond the Celts, older civilizations), and a typical feature of these myths happens to be the healing of a King through forces of restauration and regeneration (i.e. to put one in touch with his sources, with his roots), and the King was typically seen in agrarian societies as the King of a land, avatara of a Sky-Father, and [[Alarielle|the Queen as the Earth Goddess]]. The [[Warhammer 40,000/Tactics/Psychic 101|Geokinesis psychic discipline]] has a power called &#039;&#039;&#039;Earth Blood&#039;&#039;&#039; who would do just that; if only [[Adeptus Custodes|someone]] let Librarians enter the Imperial Palace to do some Perceval style healing. &lt;br /&gt;
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**The [[Grey Knights]] (who seem to get this a lot, really) equipment and how it is made. Specifically, every bolt shell that the Grey Knights use is consecrated by the blood sacrifice of a righteous man or woman in a borderline Khornate ritual (and it has to be a &#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039; person, not just anyone. How the Imperium determines if someone is sufficiently &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; or not remains an open question). Those Aegis armors? Made from thousands of psykers (including &#039;&#039;children&#039;&#039;) burned in a furnace to channel their power to the armor. Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of people have to die to make &#039;&#039;one&#039;&#039; Grey Knight combat-effective. This has caused a lot of [[skub]] as to whether it is grimderp or not, as it raises the question of where the Grey Knights find enough good people to consecrate all of the bolter rounds they go through every battle (especially in the 41st millenium, of all places).&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Gellar Field]]s being powered by the dreams of a comatose psyker being used as a battery (which also burns out and has to be replaced regularly). While very dark, it crosses the line into grimderp when one realizes 1) that Gellar Fields were said to be invented long before psykers began appearing among humanity, and 2) psykers are apparently rare enough in the Imperium that the Imperium has [[Black_Ships|an entire institution]] dedicated to rounding up psykers and bringing them back to Terra to make use of them, like making [[Astropaths]] or feeding the [[Astronomican]] and the [[Golden Throne]]. And according to recent editions the Black Ships are just barely meeting the quota to keep the [[Golden Throne]] going, so it&#039;s not like there are a lot of spare psykers around to be made into Gellar Field batteries.&lt;br /&gt;
**Originally, the [[Black Templars]] were treated as refusing to suffer the witch no matter who they were, to the point of refusing to ally with any Imperial instutition that made use of them. This got retconned to only hate &#039;&#039;enemy&#039;&#039; psykers in 6th edition after it was pointed out it would be really hard for the Black Templars to do anything if they refused to tolerate Astropaths or Navigators, and thus have no Warp travel or faster-than-light communication.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Imperial_Worlds#Agri-World|Agri-Worlds]]. Seemingly in response to the common fandom sentiment that [[The_Imperium_of_Man#However.2C_is_the_Imperium_really_that_bad.3F|most worlds in the Imperium are actually quite decent places to live]], just so long as you don&#039;t get invaded by [[Orks]], [[Chris Wraight]] in &#039;&#039;Lords of Silence&#039;&#039; outlines a typical Agri-World, describing a horrific hellscape wracked by permanent Dust Bowl conditions and so much pesticides that the sky turns orange and it is not safe to walk around outside without a biohazard suit, and goes on to say that all Agri-Worlds are like this. This has caused a lot of [[skub]] within the community. Some say that this practice is perfectly acceptable grimdark, and that unsustainable farming practices aren&#039;t exactly unusual in human history (look at slash-and-burn farming practices in Brazil, or aquifer use in the United States). However, what people find issue with is the claim that &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; agri-worlds are invariably like this, when [[Your Dudes|the fact that conditions on various planets in the Imperium vary massively from world to world as needed for the plot and there is almost no standardization]] has always been considered one of the big selling points of the setting (not to mention contradicting descriptions of Agri-Worlds in [[Ciaphas Cain]] and the [[Last Chancers]]). The other aspect that people tend to find unbelievable is that the Imperium is claimed to not even use crop rotation in their Agri-Worlds, simply farming the same crop over and over again until the soil gives out and the planet becomes a [[Death World]]. The Imperium may have lost a lot of its ancient knowledge, but crop rotation as a practice goes back to the freaking &#039;&#039;Stone Age&#039;&#039;. [[Derp|Its absurd to see knowledge that basic being lost in the horrors of Old Night]], or not been rediscovered in the time after. This also means the Imperium would literally have run out of planets thousands of years ago if this was true.&lt;br /&gt;
** The nature of how Imperial ships work has caused a great deal of [[skub]]. Namely the fact that the weapons of Imperial ships are loaded by hundreds of chem-bulked, rabid slaves dragging them into place while being whipped, the exertion being so great that many die frothing at the mouth by the effort or have their hands crushed by chains. They do this completely by hand, hauling the munitions across the ship with chains. This despite the fact that hydraulic power systems have existed since the 18th century. They don&#039;t even use inclined planes or levers, something which humanity has been using to haul large objects where they want them to go since the days of Stonehenge, the Pyramids, and Easter Island. Or they could literally just use a [[Chimera]] or a team of grox to do the job, you know, the reason why humanity built large vehicles and domesticated large animals? Meanwhile the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]] is using autoloaders, and is deliberately keeping the technology from the rest of the Imperium so they will have an advantage in case another civil war ever breaks out. Some say this is perfectly acceptable grimdark, others say that this is just too ridiculously inefficient to take seriously, even for the Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
**The Marneus Calgar comic has caused a shitstorm with the recent revelations that the average life expectancy of the BEST place in the Imperium is in the mid-thirties, which is fucking &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;[[FAIL|&#039;&#039;&#039;STUPID&#039;&#039;&#039;]]&amp;lt;/U&amp;gt;. Because that means that the life expectancy of other non-Ultramar worlds are drastically shorter, which makes the machinations on how the Imperium is run, fucking unsustainable. If child mortality rates are &#039;&#039;that high&#039;&#039;, then entire worlds would have quite literally run out of humans especially in warzones, while entire sectors&#039; worth of economies would collapse or stagnate as more kids die before they grow up and be a productive member of society. This creates a drain in resources and long-term stability; it was already considered unsustainable during MEDIEVAL times, so you could just extrapolate this to a million worlds and the Imperium should collapse under its own inertia and weight by this point. I don&#039;t care how &#039;disposable&#039; human life is, it is still a resource and the [[Emprah]] fucking hates wasting resources. We get that the comic writer is trying to shoehorn even more feudalist themes in the comics, but the problem is, this is not Krieg we&#039;re talking about, but fucking &#039;&#039;Ultramar&#039;&#039;. So either the author does not know what sense of scale is, or that he does not understand the works of Guilliman, because Papa Smurf [[Rage|&#039;&#039;&#039;WOULD. NOT.&#039;&#039;&#039; let this shit fly under the radar.]] The author has confirmed, however, that it was added to make Ultramar feel more grimdark. To give you some context, Somalia in the mid 1960s has a higher life expectancy than this. This is not grimdark, this is just fucking stupid that breaks the suspension of disbelief. It is one of the few things that both 4Chan and Reddit concurrently agree upon as fluff breaking.&lt;br /&gt;
**To be honest, the whole idea of humans being the &amp;quot;teeming multitudes&amp;quot; faction [[Imperial Guard|winning battles by sheer weight of numbers]] and which [[Skaven|breed quickly and are easily replaced]] is kind of silly if you know anything about human reproduction. Among species on Earth, humans are notable for being one of the &#039;&#039;slowest&#039;&#039; reproducing species out there. It takes nine months for a human to gestate to maturity in the womb, more than any other animal aside from elephants and whales, and even after birth humans take longer to reach maturity even compared to our close relatives the Neanderthals and &#039;&#039;Homo erectus&#039;&#039;. Additionally, it takes a huge amount of parental care to care for a child and raise them to functional adulthood, more than any other animal. On top of this, pregnancy is incredibly crippling for human females, and women have a one in three chance of dying in childbirth if giving birth without any external aid or midwives (as would be the case for a citizen of the underhives), something almost no other species has to deal with. The way our species generally works is we breed incredibly slowly but live an incredibly long time and invest a lot of resources to make sure those few that are born survive to adulthood, which basically makes us the [[elves]] of the animal kingdom. Barring some major technological breakthrough like artificial wombs or genetic engineering to reduce the crippling side effects of human pregnancy or long adolescence, humans are unlikely to be able to outbreed anything. And while some factions in the Imperium do have access to artificial wombs (like the [[Mechanicus]], most of humanity in 40k are shown to still reproducing the old fashioned way. Even if humanity starts out with a huge population it can throw at any problem, that population is going to be depleted pretty fast because humanity [[Eldar|can&#039;t replace their losses]]. Even if are the greatest resource the Imperium has, they&#039;re still trying to fight a war of attrition against [[Orks|the species that reproduces by fighting]], [[Tyranids|the one whose gimmick is being the rapidly reproducing horde of space locusts]], and the [[Daemons|ones who can&#039;t even be properly killed]], you’re going to lose horribly. However, fans tend to ignore this because of the whole “to be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions” thing that is part of the general lack of regard for human life that makes 40k 40k, so people give it a pass.&lt;br /&gt;
** Some 40k sources claim that millions if not billions of guardsmen are killed EVERY SECOND. Even with the scale of the imperium taken into the account, having many times the current population of the Earth die every minute would be ridiculous for the whole of Imperium, let alone just the Imperial Guard.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Deathwatch|Watch Captain Artemis]] saying [[Heresy|better to let the galaxy burn and allow the Imperium to fall to Chaos than allow the xenos to live]], right before [[Battle_of_Coheria|fucking up an eldar ritual that would have awakened Ynnead early and fucked over Slaanesh]], indirectly [[Gathering Storm|causing all of the ruckus of 8th Edition]]. Granted, while this does come from the [[Deathwatch]], who tend to be rabidly anti-xenos even by the Imperium&#039;s standards, this is for &#039;&#039;Chaos&#039;&#039;, the Archenemy, the [[Big Bad Evil Guy]] of the Warhammer 40k setting, the one faction that even the notoriously xenophobic Imperium will begrudgingly admit is a bigger threat than the xenos and will team up with them to fight against it. A loyalist saying they &#039;&#039;prefer Chaos&#039;&#039; over anything, even as the lesser of two evils, should be grounds for an insta-[[BLAM]]ing and a red flag for Chaos corruption. And no, Watch Captain Artemis was not [[BLAM]]-ed for this, nor is this treated as the beginnings of his corruption and a slow fall to [[Chaos]]. And so a loyalist Space Marine managed to [[Fail|single-handedly save Slaanesh]]. Seriously, Chaos champions have been elevated to [[Daemon Prince|Daemon Princehood]] for less.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Star Wars]]: Although Star Wars is 40k&#039;s high fantasy twin. There has been a few grimderp things that came out recently in Canon that has given 40k a run for its money. According to Canon, specifically the novel Ashoka, the Galactic Empire forces farming worlds by gunpoint to harvest a particular breed of crop to be used as rations for their troops. The problem? These crops were specifically designed to [[Wat|soak up every bit of nurtients on the planet until it becomes sterile.]] Meaning that the particular farming world is only capable of harvesting the crops a few times [[FAIL|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;AT BEST&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;]] before it becomes a sterile death world. Let&#039;s put this in context here, the Galactic Empire is currently fighting a galaxy-wide insurgency and being a galaxy-wide government, the GE NEEDS a sustainable way to produce food in order to keep its giant military well-fed for long-term camapaigns. So forcing farming worlds to produce crops that intentionally leave their worlds sterile after a few farming cycles is just fucking [[EPIC FAIL|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;STUPID&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;.]] Because realistically, the GE would have quite literally, ran out of food in a decade, collapsing due to galaxy-wide famine. [[FAIL|This shit is so fucking stupid and retarded that it makes the abovementioned IoM agri-world farming practises look eco-friendly in comparison.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drowtales]]: The whole series is Grimderp on steroids, but there are a few particularly nauseating examples: nothing like the protagonist [[Mary Sue]] of innocence and purity blowing up the light elf MILF slave called Maya in an argument with a rival, an argument in which she feels morally justified right after buying a fighting slave which was doomed to die in underground Arenas even most Drow find disgusting, ran by a complete monster of a drow, regularly visited to watch slaves die, that&#039;s right, by the protagonist Ariel. Maya dies crying in her native tongue about &amp;quot;what she did to deserve this&amp;quot;, crying she&#039;ll never see sunlight again. Protagonist feels a bit bad about a few days, and only that when she sees a few naked light elf slaves for sale, reminiscing Maya&#039;s face. Years pass and she thinks all the slavery and needless murder isn&#039;t so cool... just before visiting a surface colony who was taken from humans. She and her lesbian lover have an orgy on the settlement they just conquered by massacre. After a blissful after-sex sleep, the settlement is counterattacked by desperate humans coming to save their kin... which are promptly murdered by the half-light half-dark elf paladin of Sharess (Yes, a [[Mary Sue]] worshipping a total [[Baldur&#039;s Gate]] rip-off) who is all high and righteous when she is burning innocent humans who wanted to save their kin from slave traders about to buy the survivors. The protagonist&#039;s lesbian empath Drow (yes, with a length of purple hair paint, straight out of Deviantart) friend berates the cornered humans with a lame excuse line of &amp;quot;I feel your pain, why don&#039;t you take your survivors and run?!&amp;quot; when the said humans scream in desperation to save their families from the town&#039;s locked buildings, die horribly and our &amp;quot;I&#039;m glad my clan Sarghress prevents slavery, let&#039;s shake hands and feast on the food we just plundered!&amp;quot; protagonist shakes hands on it. It&#039;s not even depressing, it&#039;s plain fucking logic diarrhea with enough depressive themes to OD an edgy 13 year old. (considering the authors were that old when they started...)&lt;br /&gt;
* Jeph Loeb&#039;s run on [[/co/|Ultimate Marvel]]: people dying brutally (most well known being Wasp getting eaten by the Blob) and completely gratuitously (Dr. Strange is killed the one page he shows up on and is completely forgotten afterwards), lore annihilation worst than anything Ward ever did (the heroic Pyro is now a rapist version of the mainline Marvel Pyro with no explanation, Thor going from new age hippie to mainline-style viking with no explanation... at least that last one is kinda cool). Overall it was so bad it effectively made the Ultimate Marvel universe (with the exception of Spider-Man and his cast) completely unusable. Small wonder that years later, Marvel thought smashing it and the main Marvel universe together would be a good idea.&lt;br /&gt;
* Koutetsujou no Kabaneri, an anime with a similar premise to the already-grimdark &#039;&#039;Attack on Titan&#039;&#039;: It&#039;s set in (presumably feudal) Japan, where people are hiding behind walls and communicate with each others using trains to travel from town to town, and trades the giants and horses for guns and [[zombie]]s. Several of the characters have moments of team-killing ineptitude that end up prolonging the conflict far longer than it should:&lt;br /&gt;
**The [[samurai]] don&#039;t bother with armor and generally aren&#039;t very combat-savvy when it comes to zombies, and their [[Lawful Stupid]] tendencies turn any defense against a wall breach into an utter clusterfuck. The antagonist is [[Abaddon|an absolute failure AND wanted for crimes against humanity]], being a [[Edgy|pretentious Che Guevara wannabe]] [[Chaos Pretty Marines|with pink hair]] and wielder of an ugly-yet-somewhat effective [[Sword|sabre]]. He also has a devoted following despite being thoroughly unable to grasp the basics of warfare and its ethics (he thinks children are cowards for not being able to fight monsters that ambush and run through trained adult fighters with ease, and [[What|considers destroying one&#039;s own resources and castles to be a viable strategy]]). Meanwhile, the main protagonist has found not one, but TWO miracle solutions that would allow mankind to fight back against the zombie plague, but no one will listen to him, especially not the main antagonist, both because of the above and because &#039;&#039;of course they wouldn&#039;t&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;grimderp&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; GRIMDARK.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ironically, Ancient Shintoism (a main religion of that period) has the only known anti-[[Nurgle|zombie]] deities: &#039;&#039;Kukuri hime no kami&#039;&#039;, a goddess of purification ([[Reasonable Daemonette|&#039;&#039;despite&#039;&#039; being rather sado-masochist]]) whose followers would bind a corpse with ropes, place a big stone on the chest and bury it (coffins are optional). [[Humanity Fuck Yeah|Insane as it was]], it was the most common form of burial in the Jomon period, and never went completely out of date through all the medieval period. Despite the rites being a perfect defense against [[Dark Souls|an undead invasion]], apparently they didn&#039;t take in this setting. Three guesses why.&lt;br /&gt;
*Most dark fantasy/&amp;quot;Ryona&amp;quot; hentai like Redo of a Healer (see below), Kuroinu, Maggot Baits and whatever bargain basement hentai game developer puts the heroines through horrifying rapes, tortures and debauchery with no way to escape, all for little more purposes than to degrade, humiliate and mind-break them.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[FATAL]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Black Tokyo]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Teenagers bad attempts at recreating stuff they like such as Creepypasta&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;
* Garth Ennis&#039;s &amp;quot;The Boys&amp;quot; (Almost every superhero is an irredeemable sexual deviant who&#039;s only crime fighting accomplishments come from corporate PR lies.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Surprisingly averted with it&#039;s Amazon Prime adaptation. By actually making the heroes less unambiguously rotten, cutting down the childish silliness, making the violence less gratuitous and more justified, and making the Boys themselves more human, the series actually manages to be WAY darker than the comics. Hell, Billy Butcher actually contemplates MURDERING A CHILD in the series, which is something the way more psychotic Butcher of the comics would not.&lt;br /&gt;
** About half of Garth Ennis&#039;s work goes so far around the bend that it becomes compelling or is goddamn hilarious. Below is one of his most infamous creations.&lt;br /&gt;
* Crossed: Most of the world is dead or turned into [[Slaanesh|murder-raping sadists]] á la the Reavers from Firefly. Showing any courage will get you killed or turned into one of the aforementioned murder-rapists, and there are survivors that are just as fucked up as the infectees. Supposedly a dig at arm chair survivalists, it&#039;s now mostly remembered for being edgy for the sake of edginess and being overall boring as hell.&lt;br /&gt;
* Hatred: Remember how your family told you that GTA was breeding criminals and that games created &amp;quot;monsters&amp;quot;? Well, Hatred tries to cash in on that by making a game dedicated to killing innocent people and making a &amp;quot;parody&amp;quot; out of those reactions, but [[FAIL|fails miserably]] to do that. This is because not only is our main &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; a complete asshole with literally nothing redeeming about him, but most of the gameplay consists on you shooting unnarmed civilians and members of the policy/military that are &#039;&#039;&#039;extremely&#039;&#039;&#039; easy to beat, and coupled with the monochrome colors the game becomes &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; boring in a &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; quick pace. And unlike these old games that caused oh so much controversy, Hatred doesn&#039;t even have that good old orkish humor and tries to [[Serious Business|take everything inside it seriously]], which makes the &amp;quot;Grimdark&amp;quot; aspect come off as &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; dumb.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carl Sargent]]&#039;s total destruction of the [[Greyhawk]] setting in &#039;&#039;[[From The Ashes]]&#039;&#039;. His grimdark was well-done; it&#039;s that he had to fuck over the game&#039;s oldest and most-beloved setting to do it that made it Derp.&lt;br /&gt;
* The anime Redo of a Healer has caused a fucking [[Warp Storm|shitstorm]] involving massive levels of [[skub]] in the anime fandom. It&#039;s basically a revenge fantasy hentai when the main character, a healing slave who was physically and sexually abused, resets time and fulfills his fantasy. Now, a normal person would just kill the abusers, but then this sick fuck tortures and rapes the first abuser, the kingdom&#039;s princess, on-camera. The epitome of sick-fuckery comes when the main character sneaks his way into the Imperial Army, and turns the guard into a little girl, and turns all his men into [[Slaanesh |horny rape zombies]], and has him raped to death. I&#039;m serious, this show has such undiluted levels of sickfuckery and edge, and even more rape than [[Berserk]]. How they even allowed this to air is beyond me.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most of the anti-[[HFY]] content in the [[World of Darkness]], especially the unmitigated misanthropy in parts of [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grim Tragedy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Naturally in a universe such as 40k, the grimdarkness of the setting would mean nothing if not tied into the ironic tragedy of the lore. This includes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Imperium|A species]] so afraid of the dauntless perils of Chaos that they will brutally harass and execute entire populations out of mere suspicion, all to stop the spread of ruin while indirectly strengthening those who seek to destroy them (&#039;&#039;particularly&#039;&#039; Chaos). They, as a people, have progressed massively in population, technology and power since their species conception, yet they, more than anyone else, have lost one vital element: their humanity.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Eldar|A race who]] was once at a zenith of civilization and prosperity, capable of bending the very Gods to their will. But by their own hand reduced themselves to scattered isolated fleets and colonies always on the run; their pompous and arrogant leaders hide behind a dwindling sense of security based in superiority over other races who are far more successful and perhaps destined to be greater than they ever were. [[Dark Eldar|A number among them]], after their unholy and insidious near-demise, continue (with oblivious glee) to empower [[Slaanesh|the very being that brought them to ruin]] in order to save themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Orks|A race of creatures]] who possess the brightest &amp;quot;potential&amp;quot;; with near mastery over the psychic, near-natural physical perfection and almost limitless numbers from their highly successful methods of reproduction... And yet they are genetically restricted by an unquenchable thirst for conflict which drives each to idiocy, leaving them hopeless of advancing beyond simple barbarians.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Necron|An ancient people]] who were so envious of their neighbors&#039; power that they were ready to cripple the entire galaxy just for the sake of petty superiority - a superiority neutered by their unwitting transformation into metaphorical and literal automatons. They are now mindless machines who, bar few, care nothing of their past and seek only one thing: Conquest. And those who still have their personalities are either insane, demented, brooding, psychotic, or any combination of these in various proportions.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Tau|A newborn race]] who innocently believes that there can be peace and acknowledgement among each other. Unfortunately the sinister methods they employ hoping that it is for [[Greater Good|something better]] is slowly, but steadily driving them into the decadence that plagues the other species. In doing so they become proof, both of the fact that [[Horus|anyone]], [[Emperor|no matter their intentions]], can be corrupted, and also of the kindness that the rest have forsaken for damnation and despair...&lt;br /&gt;
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*The fact that, despite tens of thousands of years of knowing nothing but war, these peoples are woefully unprepared for what is to come. No matter how many regiments can be raised or Craftworlds restored, what is out there is [[Tyranids|all consuming, diabolical and numberless...]] Unless, they are themselves on the verge of extinction, and as such, desperately trying to cross over the great void between galaxies, which implies fighting against [[Ork|invincibles foes]] and [[Ultramarines|fate dodging cheaters]] unnaturaly empowered by the grief of an [[Games Workshop|unspeakable Eldritch Abomination beyond the cosmos]]. The good option is that there are a thousand galaxies worth of the fucking bugs; the bad option is that there are billions upon billions of galaxies worth of the fucking bugs. The worse option is that billions upon billions galaxies worth of what is essentially the perfect organism is running away from something worse.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Noblebright]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Edgy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eversor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lamenters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/grimdark KnowYourMeme has examples from outside of /tg/]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQAWBeFnkg8 Trope Talk: Grimdark], a analysis of the &amp;quot;Grimdark&amp;quot; style of storytelling and why it works (and why sometimes it doesn&#039;t)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Dark Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[File:Darkangelslogo.png|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Battle Cry = Usually they fight silently, but situationally: &amp;quot;Repent! For tomorrow you die!&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;For the Lion!&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;A moment of Laxity spawns a lifetime of Heresy!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Number = I&lt;br /&gt;
|Founding = [[First Founding]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = Angels of Death, the Six Hosts&lt;br /&gt;
|Successor Chapters = Hell of a lot of {{Blam|+++completely autonomous+++}} Chapters, most notably the [[Blades of Vengeance]], [[Angels of Defiance]], [[Disciples of Caliban]], [[Consecrators]], [[Angels of Absolution]], [[Angels of Redemption]], [[Angels of Vengeance]],[[Guardians of the Covenant]], [[Bringers of Judgement]], [[Cowled Wardens]], [[Knights of Abhorrence]], [[Prime Absolvers]], [[Penintent Blades]] and [[The Unnamed]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Chapter Master = [[Azrael]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Primarch = [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeworld = [[The Rock]], originally [[Caliban]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = [[Plasma]], [[Deathwing|terminators]], [[Ravenwing|bikes]], [[Fallen Angels|{{Blam|+++hunting down the filthy traitors to the Imperium!+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = 1,000 (officially, {{Blam|+++much more counting chapter serfs, officers, pilots and the like+++}}|Allegiance = [[Imperium of Man|:{{Blam|+++Loyal since day one+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Green, black, bone white&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|The best way of keeping a secret is to pretend there isn&#039;t one.|Margaret Atwood}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Got a secret, can you keep it? Swear this one you&#039;ll save! Better lock it in your pocket, taking this one to the grave.|The Pierces, Secret}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|Tumbling waterfalls plundge from its top in a cascade to foam in a wide pool of churning water. Vibrant greenery stretch in all directions and Zahariel felt peace pierce through him unaware of how empty his soul had become until it was filled.|&#039;&#039;Descent of the Angels&#039;&#039;, setting a Graalic theme unto The Order.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Blam|+++Welcome to the Dark Angels Page! Your entrance is being monitored by [[Chaplain|Interrogator-Chaplain]] [[Zacharias]]. Any questions you have will be answered to the best of our ability, no matter if you are [[Imperial Guard|a lowly servant of the Emperor]], an Inquisitor, Primaris Space Marine brother, or Dark Angel initiate.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++&#039;&#039;&#039;THIS ARTICLE IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND IS REWRITTEN FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION. ALL MESSAGES WRITTEN IN RED ARE THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH ABOUT OUR HISTORY.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++Any attempt to follow links without the approved authorization may end in your unfortunate demise.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Unforgiven ==&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;‘Listen well, initiates, for I bring light to the darkness. It is&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;the weak-minded that crave comforts – the Dark Angels need&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;them not. Wealth? The sons of the Lion covet no baubles, for&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;they are meaningless to us. Sensual gratification? We know&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;well its transitory nature. Pride? We are no whelps of Russ.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;By our actions alone shall we be known.’&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;- Brother-Chaplain Valeforr&lt;br /&gt;
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Their [[Primarch]] is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]] a.k.a The Lion. As a result, the Dark Angels are totally {{Blam|+++awesome and without a fault +++}}. Their Primarch happened to be named after a [[Wikipedia:Lionel_Johnson|homosexual poet]] who wrote a poem called &amp;quot;The Dark Angel&amp;quot; and might&#039;ve dated [[Fulgrim| Oscar Wilde]]. Oh, and their homeworld is called [[The Rock]], [[Grimdark|{{Blam|+++a refuge for peace and meditation where nothing sinister ever happens +++}}]] (it&#039;s actually a mobile space station that can take out most of Battlefleet Solar on its own). They were the posterboys for both [[6th edition|6E]] and [[Citadel Miniatures|Citadel&#039;s]] &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; line of paints. Fuck yeah, we guess? Russian fa/tg/uys believe that Dark Angels are Jews because the name &amp;quot;Lion&amp;quot; and surnames ending with &amp;quot;-son&amp;quot; are popular with Jewish Russians. Interestingly, they also employ retainers known as the [[Watchers in the Dark]]. These {{Blam|+++adorable sword hugging beings are chapter serfs. They are so small because they need to be that small for cleaning the corners in the Rock+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When dealing with the Dark Angels it is important to bear in mind that they are the very embodiment of the phrase [[Vindicare|“the end justifies the means”]] and they will go to any lengths and do anything that they need to in order to {{Blam|+++protect the Imperium from the perils of the universe.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The new Codex heavily implies that they may be at Legion strength {{Blam|+++as we have now more reinforcements from the Ultima Founding, which leads to more successor chapters. Thanks to Lord Commander Guilliman.+++}}The lack of clarification on this matter and the suspiciously close cooperation between the Dark Angels and their successor chapters hasn&#039;t gone unnoticed by the [[Inquisition]], although their attempts at exposing the Dark Angels&#039; secrets [[Abaddon|haven&#039;t met with much success]] thus far. However, one reason they and their successors work together so well is likely due to the fact that the pre-heresy Dark Angels Legion was already assembled out of chapters. After the Heresy, they merely needed to give the chapters names instead of numbers and have the chapters adopt different heraldry and colors; as such, the Dark Angels and their successor chapters might still be (functionally and unofficially) a (more-or-less) cohesive Legion.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByQ7L5aRu1A Their theme] by [[HMKids]],which SHOWS THEIR ABSOLUTE LOYALTY. [[FATAL|{{Blam|+++If you have any doubts regarding the Dark Angels&#039; ABSOLUTE LOYALTY, then you should follow this servo skull down this totally not in any way dark and ominous corridor towards room 42 where Brother Asmodai will be waiting to answer any questions you might have.+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
They have apparently also become the love-chapter of some of GW&#039;s writers, since they now have the best motorcycle squads around (yes, apparently even better than the [[White Scars]]) and the &amp;quot;last&amp;quot; jetbike in the Imperium (they might have a ton of them or be making new ones!). {{Blam|+++The honourable Custodes have jetbikes as well. We would never commit a tech-heresy such as hoarding precious tech-knowledge+++}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Penance by majesticchicken.jpg|thumb|left|400px|The Dark Angels, the flagbearers of grimdark gothic design.]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Gene-Seed ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Much like the Ultrasmurfs, the Dark Angels have some of the most stable gene-seed of all the progenitor chapters, with no significant mutations documented. Due to this and the fact that they were the first Legion produced by the Emperor, they remain one of the most favorable ones to use for founding successor chapters. Although, the High Lords are supposedly iffy about using the DA&#039;s gene seed due to the rumors that all Dark Angel successors stay in one command structure with the Dark Angels still calling the shots, effectively all of their descendant chapters still act as part of a legion. Nevertheless, because there&#039;s no official proof of this, the Inquisition cannot call an Exterminatus on the Rock. [[Deathwing|{{Blam| +++Should you have such evidence, please report yourself with the material in hand so we can fix this issue.+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the Lion’s greatest legacies to his sons is his [[Perturabo|strategic]] [[Roboute Guilliman|genius]] – a quality passed on to his sons through the Chapter’s gene-seed. This trait manifests exponentially as a Dark Angel ascends toward the rank of Company Master. Such officers can plan a campaign to the last detail, execute faultless assaults, and assemble impenetrable defenses instinctively. Central to this ability is the deployment of the correct mix of squads, vehicles and support elements. To this end, the Dark Angels form strike forces – self-contained armies assembled to prosecute a specific campaign or defeat a particular foe.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the {{Blam|+++words of brother [[Ezekiel]]+++}}, Librarians from the Unforgiven can pick up the unique psychic signatures of those who bear traces of their shared Primarch. Even the most spliced or tainted gene-seed of Lion El’Jonson emits a distinct signal powerful enough to be detected. Basically all you need to do is put a Dark Angels Librarian near a {{Blam|+++fellow Dark Angel playing a millennia-long game of hide and seek+++}} and they might as well have a great big flashing neon light hanging over their head saying “SON OF THE LION HERE. COME AND GET ME.” (This has precedent in earlier fluff such as the battle for Rynn&#039;s World, where the death of 600 [[Crimson Fists]] nearly killed a nearby librarian).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Battle Cry ===	&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike more warlike chapters like the [[Space Wolves|Space Corgis]] or the [[Black Templars]] who would go into battle screaming about how they&#039;re going to skullfuck the enemies of man, the Dark Angels go into battle in cold, efficient silence, somewhat similar to that of [[Angry Marine]] Terminators who are so enraged that they march into battle with stone hearts and steel faces. In fact, their &amp;quot;Repent! For tomorrow you die!&amp;quot; is less of a battle cry and more of a foreboding proclamation against their real targets: [[Fallen Angels|{{Blam|+++the damnable traitors from the nine fallen legions+++}}.]] This makes more sense the more you realize what the Chaplains do to the [[Cultist-chan|Dark Angels&#039; greatest obsession]] {{Blam|+++teach them to love the Imperium and the real fiasco of following chaos.+++}} within the depths of The Rock, until they repent.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter&lt;br /&gt;
|Name = Dark Angels&lt;br /&gt;
|Heraldry = [[File:Dark_Angels_chapter-crusade-hersey_.jpg|center|140px]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Original Name = The First, Primaris Angelus Mortis (Honorific)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Homeworld = Caliban (home world), Terra, an unknown number of void outposts and watch fortresses on the Imperium’s fringes. The planet Gramarye was once the home base of the First legion, likely as a muster world before reuniting with their primarch.&lt;br /&gt;
|Specialty = Combined arms and multi-spectra warfare, exterminatus and purgation campaigns, extended independent void operations.&lt;br /&gt;
|Strength = By the time of the Horus Heresy, the Legion numbered around 200,000 marines.&lt;br /&gt;
|Colours = Black&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|They had walked into the mouth of hell, and not only had they returned, but they had left hell shattered in their passage.|}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Hexagrammaton.jpg|200px|left|thumb|The symbol of the Hexagrammaton.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Organisation===&lt;br /&gt;
Not simply a [[First Founding|Legion]] numbered &amp;quot;one&amp;quot;, they were quite literally the First legion created by the Emperor and in their earliest incarnation fought as the personal army of the Master of Mankind in the dawning years of the [[Great Crusade]]. Their first official battle took place before the Great Crusade began, being used to destroy an army of mixed troops and Thunder Warriors that had come to arrest Constantin Valdor. HH: Extermination tells us that as the prototype Legion the Dark Angels served as the template for all the Legions that would follow after which the Emperor decided to make the following legions more specialised and engineered their development towards different roles, and as a standard by which these successors would be measured (however they would eventually get supplanted by the empire-building [[Ultramarines]] after the Horus Heresy, in part due to the severe losses they took during the Rangdan Xenocides). So basically the Emperor simply intended the First Legion to sally forth and &amp;quot;just be Space Marines&amp;quot;. The original Legion were a bunch of bloody killers, and they took great pride in their job. They were the very definition of the Emperor&#039;s Angels of Death, marching forth and crushing the foes of the Emperor, wherever they could be found. They took great pride in their primacy, acting as teachers and mentors towards the younger legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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That meant the Dark Angels had to figure out warfare all on their own, and the techniques they developed would have entire Legions built upon those principles when they were raised later on. Including the first attempt at creating a group of battle ready psychic marines, and although this order was eventfully disbanded the lessons learned would eventually be used in the creation of the [[Librarius]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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There existed six specialised &amp;quot;Wings&amp;quot; collectively known as the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hexagrammaton&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; originally coalesced from the various Hosts used by the first Terran members of the Great Crusade as they each learned their methods of warfare in the initial years of fighting. When the Lion was united with his Legion he reorganised the Hosts to run across and through the normal Dark Angels structure of orders, chapters, and companies (similar to how the DA company veterans work in 40k) and every Dark Angel from the lowest to the highest is a member of one of the wings. Each acted as an independent formation that was both a part of the main body of the legion but also separate from it at the same time. Each of the wings/hosts is commanded by an officer known as a Voted-Lieutenant and several Voted-Successors who are outside of the normal legion command structure. One of the key strengths of the First legion seems to have been their ability to adapt and change things up when needed. Not every battle can be fought the same way, especially when considering the varied and unique opponents that exist within the galaxy, so spreading your specialists across your standard forces and using their experience when necessary seems like it might actually be a pretty good idea. Like the Dark Angels of 40k who don&#039;t really specialise in any single form of combat, but actually prefer to create tailor fitted strike forces to deal with any given opponent, the existence of the Hexagrammaton in 30k provides the First Legion with a great deal of flexibility. &lt;br /&gt;
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When confronted with a situation that requires a more specialised touch the commanding officer can hand operational control over to the highest ranking member of one of the wings. A call will go out across all the First Legion forces present for all members of the required &amp;quot;Wing&amp;quot; to gather and pool their combined specialized skills and equipment in order to bring ruin to the enemy. Unlike legions like the Death Guard who preferred to keep their legions as a single whole, the First Legion seems to have given Legion forces that are operating away from the main body a bit more freedom to think for themselves. This would allow the Legion to continue to operate independently, even if they may have been cut off from the rest of the Legions command, this would also allow them to operate in a far greater number of theatres of war across the Great Crusade; this would normally be considered a good thing, but this is 40k and &amp;quot;freedom of thought&amp;quot; can only lead to bad things.     &lt;br /&gt;
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Each was dedicated to a different form of warfare of which two survived into the later 40k:&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Deathwing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Veterans specialists, Marksmen and linebreakers who also provided bodyguard duties for other officers. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Ravenwing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Cavalry &amp;amp; Fast Attack&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Stormwing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Initially described in the [[Black Library]] books as boarding specialist formation comprised mostly of [[Breacher Siege Squad|shield-wielding units]], it has been [[retcon]]ed by Forge World into a no-speciality wing of sorts.     &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Dreadwing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Called in when you [[Exterminatus|just want something gone and you really don’t care about the collateral damage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Firewing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Excel in destroying enemy command structures and assassination, they were the opposite of the Dreadwing.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Ironwing]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Heavy emphasis on battle tanks and mechanized infantry and had the highest concentration of Terminators in ANY of the Legions, including experimental suits unseen elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Dark Angel&#039;s membership in a particular wing seems to not only be based on their abilities but also their personality, attitude, and personal mindset; for example the Dreadwing are made up of the most brutal, destructive, and warmongering members of the Dark Angels whilst the Ravenwing (if they are anything like their 40k counterparts) are made up of the most impulsive, wild (by DA standards), and inquisitive members (being a speed freak helps). How they are designated into each wing is unknown...perhaps they are given extensive physiological evaluations or maybe they just have some sort of [[Harry Potter]]-esque sorting hat.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the &#039;&#039;Hexagrammaton&#039;&#039; is the  &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hekatonystika&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; - also called the &#039;&#039;Hundred Esoteric Arts (although the exact numuber of orders fluctuates, there were hundreds of them over the crusade)&#039;&#039; and is divided into Orders each commanded by  &#039;&#039;&#039;Preceptor&#039;&#039;&#039; and his Seneschals. These &#039;&#039;&#039;Orders&#039;&#039;&#039; are each tasked with the protection of some kind of lore that that useful in battle, such as combat about particular kinds of enemy or on certain kinds of battlefield; if necessary the commander in charge of a battlefield could request members of an order with knowledge relevant to the situation come together to form a &#039;&#039;&#039;Cenobium&#039;&#039;&#039; to concentrate their expertise and offer assistance in the same way that the whole force can reorganise according to the six Wings. The Orders stood alongside the wings and were complementary in many ways, such as the Order of the Broken Wings being anti-air specialists and preferring recruits from the Ironwing for instance. It was also possible to have membership of more than one Order, though this was considered rare. Some orders were extremely small and numbered only a handful of marines, others were massive and capable of deploying to the battlefield on their own as collections of whole Chapters of thousands of warriors.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the combat orders, there were also many Orders Civilis that were specialist in support and logistical roles, though they rarely numbered many full battle brothers among them, they were a means of honouring failed aspirants and serfs with important and vital positions.&lt;br /&gt;
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This all stands in combination with the &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; chain of command as laid down by the &#039;&#039;Principa Bellicosa&#039;&#039; of Chapters and Companies, meaning any individual Space Marine could hold several ranks and be the superior of his comrades in different situations. One example is given in HH9 Crusade where a simple line Legionary in his company actually holds the rank of &#039;&#039;&#039;Cenobite&#039;&#039;&#039; in his Order as well as &#039;&#039;&#039;Proctor&#039;&#039;&#039; of the Stormwing, therefore outranking his own sergeant in many situations, serving as an example of how the First Legion puts experience above authority.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to the Hexagrammaton and Hekatonystika the Dark Angels were almost impossible for outsiders to comprehend, Such disregard for strict and unchanging lines of command and control frustrated some legions and primarchs, especially Guilliman who had implored the Lion on multiple occasions to reform his legion to match the example of the Ultramarines,  but for the Dark Angels it allowed them to adapt and evolve from moment to moment on the battlefield. these formations proved to be fertile grounds in the training of large numbers of highly skilled veterans, and leaders from amongst the dark angels; allowing them to function perfectly well when denied a central command, as they had already been forged into a flexible force that could function independently even in the most dire of circumstances.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Angels would even have a bit of fun with the other forces of the Imperium; upon arrival they would deliberately not inform the other Imperial forces, about who was in overall command of the Dark Angels forces, and then see if anyone was able to work it out; If anyone was able to do so they would have gained the Dark Angles respect and acknowledgement.&lt;br /&gt;
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It has been hinted that because of the Dark Angels’ highly traditional and sectarian nature it made them ‘immune’ to the intrusions of the warrior lodges and acted as a similar buffer to infiltration and manipulation from the likes of the Alpha Legion. Luther outright laughed at Erebus&#039;s suggestion of the creation of a Dark Angel warrior lodge.&lt;br /&gt;
:*according to the Alpharius Primarch book, Alpharius himself (not the Alpha legion) was able infiltrate the legion, although even the most sneaky of Primarch&#039;s had a really difficult time doing so. Alpharius highly suspects that the Lion was actually fully aware of his infiltration but didn&#039;t take any action, which really annoyed Alpharius, as he couldn&#039;t get a good reading on whether he had been caught or not; which lends credence to the idea that the Lion was the only brother Alpharius was unable to truly read.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
Whilst the First legion took the fight to the horrors in the dark, the younger legions continued to grow in strength to the point that the first were no longer the only angels of the Emperor, now they were only the first amongst equals; this led to a growing resentment towards these upstarts, who had been carefully and safely grown whilst the First had been punching monsters in the face, and who had been gifted with the knowledge and tactics learned from their bloody work. &lt;br /&gt;
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This would prove to be a mortal blow to the very identity of the First Legion, and they would begin to throw themselves into danger; leeroy jenkins&#039;s themselves into the most bloody situations, in the desperate attempt to prove their worth. They would go out of their way to take on the most dangerous of tasks, even if the losses they would sustain were not worth the prize. The first would continue to bleed out, in their desperate attempts to prove themselves until the lion was found and started kicking some sense into them.&lt;br /&gt;
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In this fashion, acting all on their own without support from the other legions that followed they killed lots of [[Orks]] and other xenos scum for great justice and were once the most numerous and powerful of the legions. Their numbers would be depleted by decades of savage warfare, particularly in the wars of the [[Rangdan Xenocides]] where their numbers fell below 166,000 after they lost almost 50,000 Marines preventing the destruction of the entire northern Imperium by an unknown menace from the outer darkness. The scars of these battles would change them, as would their reunification with their Primarch and his adopted world of Caliban. Unyielding, technologically capable, ruthless, and insular, the Dark Angels by the time of the Heresy were once again a powerful and highly independent Legion used to operating on its own to conduct large scale campaigns and compliance actions. When the Legion was first reunited with their Primarch, the massive influx of warriors into the Legion following the rediscovery of Caliban was able to provide the First with an additional 20,000 new Dark Angels. However, this would not last as just before the Heresy started Luther, who had by then decided Caliban should be free of what he saw as the Imperium’s tyranny, began to starve the legion of any new legionaries, armour, weapons and ammunition. He began by cancelling the deployment of 4212 new recruits to the Legion. He would also reduce the time it took to implant and train new legionaries to about two years, so by mid-heresy there were around 45,000 new Dark Angels on Caliban who were swearing oaths of fealty not to the Emperor but to Caliban and the Order; as these were never deployed to the legion they are not counted as part of the legions over all total, but as a separate force. (Not everyone was pleased with this, especially those who had originated from Terra.) &lt;br /&gt;
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Some time during the Crusade some planetary ruler insulted [[Leman Russ]] and he got all pissy about it. Then Lion ended up killing the leader and Leman was like &amp;quot;Whatchu do that fo&#039; fool?&amp;quot; because &#039;&#039;he&#039;&#039; wanted to take the bitch-ass out. And Lion was like &amp;quot;fuck off, furry,&amp;quot; despite his own furtastic name and his dickish kill-stealing. Leman, never being good with words, reason, or sobriety, megaton punched the Lion. The two of them fought for a day or two, an epic struggle between cool-headed tactician and hot-blooded barbarian, douchebag and bro-tard. Then Leman said &amp;quot;this is stupid&amp;quot; and started laughing... then the Lion knocked him out.&lt;br /&gt;
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In true [[anime]] fashion, after Leman regained consciousness and was less-inebriated, the two eventually became best buds and treated it as water under the bridge; their respective chapters still carry on the friendly rivalry, a pair of champions engaging in sacred and [[Derp|non-fatal]] honour duels whenever the Spess Lions and [[Space Wolves|Space Corgis]] meet. One particular incident during the Heresy had a member of the watch-pack that had been sent to keep an eye on Guilliman being paired off against the Lion himself after the Wolves pushed the issue. The Lion, who had more important things to do and wanted it over as quickly as possible, stepped forward and nominated himself. The fight (if that’s what you want to call it) was as predictably hilarious as you would imagine it would be. And a couple of light years away, the [[Tyranids]] eat a planet while two of the most important Space Marine chapters waste time on this Nerf-chainsword-duel-honour-bullshit because &#039;&#039;that&#039;s how they roll&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[Horus Heresy]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Luther.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Luther, {{Blam|+++If you see this man in your sector, report immediately to the Inner Circle+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
Much of the history of the First Legion during the events of the Horus Heresy are largely unknown to the Imperium at large, thus you will find that {{Blam|+++paper records are highly flammable, thus we put here all we have recovered.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Horus Heresy]] Lion El&#039;Jonson rushed to come to the aid of the [[Emperor]], fighting his way through the [[Night Lords]], [[Death Guard]] and [[Lost and the Damned|traitor Army]] to reach [[Terra]], stopping off at [[Macragge]] to kick [[Roboute Guilliman]] out of inaction and start actually paying attention to the Horus Heresy. In fact, despite all of the mystery surrounding the intentions of the First Legion, the Emperor still had complete faith in them. A discussion between Him and [[Malcador the Sigillite]] during [[Graham McNeill]]&#039;s Vengeful Spirit proves that even the Emperor expected Guilliman to procrastinate and start building his own empire and they were somewhat relieved when Russ told them that the Lion had intervened.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite all this he didn&#039;t make it to Terra in time because he ended up buying into Guilliman&#039;s new [[Imperium Secundus]], and set himself the task of defending the 500 worlds from attacks by the [[Word Bearers]] and the [[World Eaters]], all the while seeking out his elusive brother [[Konrad Curze]]. When the Night Haunter was eventually caught, his visions coupled with those of [[Sanguinius]] were sufficient to prove to the collected brothers that the Emperor was in fact still alive, and that the Imperium Secundus was a massive folly and a distraction. Though they attempted to return to Terra, it was clear that the route would only be opened for one of the brothers; Sanguinius, therefore the Lion and Guilliman set themselves the task of attacking the traitors in the rear, hoping to draw enough of them away to buy time for the defenders at the [[Siege of Terra]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Afterwards he returned home to [[Caliban]] only to find that shit hit the fan when {{Blam|+++ our kitchen servitors accidentally left all of the cooking gas lines running and this caused an explosion that destroyed our home planet. We suspect this to be the work of foul traitors.+++}} When daybreak came Caliban was nothing more; only The Rock was left standing. {{Blam|+++ These stressful days were what caused the Lion to go on vacation. The remaining Dark Angels painted their armor green (as penance and because green was the shit back then).+++}} All of this caused one battle brother to say &amp;quot;I hate Mondays.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Caliban was far away from many Imperial Worlds, the core leaders of the Dark Angels known as the {{Blam|+++Inner circle (because that band rocks) decided to destroy all history, evidence, and blueprints of the Rock to protect it from falling into the wrong hands+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
The Imperium&#039;s not exactly sure what happened to Caliban as anyone who investigates this matter, even [[Inquisitor|Inquisitors]] {{Blam|+++are made to feel very welcome on the Rock and most never want to go back to their job after experiencing one of our wild parties.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahem, to carry on where my predecessor left off after his {{Blam|+++long-needed vacation+++}}, the Dark Angels became the most obscure chapter in the millennium following the Horus Heresy. Whereas Imperial officials can try to order around chapters like the Space Corgis and Black Templars, the Dark Angels can never be approached because they can&#039;t be found 90% of the time. They are known for mysteriously appearing out of nowhere to aid Imperial forces and disappearing just as fast, even if the forces they were aiding were still in need of their help. This has led to much complaint from Imperial commanders who are often understandably pissed off. {{Blam|+++We sincerely apologize, but we try to multi-task+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===After the destruction of Caliban to the 41st Millenium/[[Time of Ending]]===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The rock-Fenris.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Dark Angels arrive in style.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ever since that fateful day ten thousand years ago, the Dark Angels have striven to prove to the Emprah and their Primarch that they are still cool guys to hang around with, despite {{Blam|+++their grim nature+++}}. To this end they have acquired toys like plasma cannon jetbikes, more suits of Terminator Armour than most chapters can shake their chainswords at, and a mini-[[Wikipedia:Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp|Gitmo]] in a flying chunk of planet to {{Blam|+++capture enemies of the Imperium from the nine traitor legions+++}}, in order to prove {{Blam|+++that the Imperium RULEZ+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Luther]] himself was kept within a special cell equipped with stasis fields; both to keep him from escaping (which didn&#039;t work so hot) and to prevent him from dying of old age before some kind of confession can be extracted from him (even Astartes are unsure if they can die of old age, although there was a living Salamander whose armor fused to the deck of a ship and had been floating around since the Drop Site Massacre). He was last publicly seen barking mad from Chaos withdrawing its influence from him. But his ramblings have occasionally assisted the Dark Angels in locating lost relics within the Rock. Recently, he&#039;s been claiming that the time for the Lion to return and absolve the Chapter of its past is growing closer...&lt;br /&gt;
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After the destruction of Caliban the Dark Angels would throw themselves into the Scouring with a zeal that surprised many of their brother legions. Whether they were seeking retribution for the death of their Emperor and father or some other reason known only to themselves, the Dark Angels would hound the traitors with a single bloodied mindedness that boarded on insanity. They would grow, if possible, even more distant with the rest of the Imperium, appearing without warning on battlefronts across the galaxy to bring destruction to the enemy, and then leaving just as unexpectedly as they had arrived; if their brother legions found their new zeal strange, they kept it to themselves, for none could doubt their conviction or the fanatical devotion in which the Dark Angels took vengeance upon the traitor forces. Such as when they saved a trapped force of Ultramarine&#039;s; dying to a man holding back the traitors long enough to allow the Ultramarine&#039;s to evacuate, refusing to leave whilst the enemy yet lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Angels would bleed themselves almost dry in their pursuit of the traitor forces, throwing themselves into the blender in their desire to make the traitors pay. Much like before the discovery of the Lion the Dark Angels would throw themselves upon the blades of the enemy (almost like they sought absolution in their mutual destruction), but where as before they had done so to prove themselves to others, now they did so out of shame; they no longer cared for the opinions of others, only that they make amends for their failings in the eye of the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
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It’s important to bear in mind that the Dark Angels themselves do not have the whole story regarding {{Blam|+++the traitor Marines from other legions+++}} and Caliban&#039;s {{Blam|+++upgrade into being the most AWESOME SHIP+++}}. When the legion first arrived back at Caliban during the Scouring they would have been unaware of the events that had led up to Astelan ordering the attack on the fleet. After the destruction of Caliban they would have found themselves in a position where they had not only lost their Emperor and their Primarch but their home world as well. The legion had been tarnished beyond repair by those that they had once considered sworn brothers, and worst of all, they didn’t know why. All they had left was the Legion, and so the assembled masters of the Dark Angels decided to cover up what had happened in order to protect and preserve what was left of the once mighty First. They had been under the impression that the {{Blam|+++traitor Marines who like to wear black+++}} had all been slain during the planet&#039;s destruction. Once {{Blam|+++said traitors+++}} began to reappear it would prove to be a decision that would eventually end up damning them and all those that would follow. The present day Dark Angels are forced to shoulder the burdens and consequences of those decisions made so long ago that they themselves had taken no part in. Where in other chapters the ascension into the higher ranks is a thing of justified pride and honour, within the Unforgiven it is a soul-crushing experience as their delusions of honour and false glory are systematically torn down around them as the chapter&#039;s dark secrets are revealed to them one by one.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Angels and their successors have spent the past 10,000 years hunting down {{Blam|+++said traitors+++}}, slowly and painstakingly piecing together the pieces of an elaborate jigsaw of lies and deceit. Who knows who was responsible for what happened all those millennia ago. Was  {{Blam|+++this particular traitor and heretic+++}} one of the architects of the betrayal or was he just an unwitting pawn who was just following orders? And, if so, then who gave that order? As they have slowly filtered the lies from the truths and sifted through the many different contradicting {{Blam|+++traitor&#039;s lies+++}}, the Dark Angels have uncovered many unsettling truths that had been unknown to them before.  Yet the masters of the Unforgiven are aware that they do not have the full story and that there are still many dark revelations to come. Not least that the Black Legion includes (or included) {{Blam|+++traitors wearing stolen Dark Angels armour in obviously Black Legion colors+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unbeknownst to the Dark Angels, Lion El&#039;Jonson is alive and well. After his duel with Luther we, the Watchers in the Dark, brought him to a hidden chamber in the depths of the Rock so he could be healed of his wounds. He is fully healed, and now all that is needed for the last loyal Primarch to return [[Games Workshop|is for the Emperor to give him the signal to do so.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===42nd Millennium and the [[Age of the Dark Imperium]]===&lt;br /&gt;
With the return of Magnus (and his assault on Fenris), as well as the return of Guilliman (with his Terran Crusade and subsequent Indomitus Crusade), the Dark Angels are probably scrabbling HARD to make sure that {{Blam|+++all disgusting traitors are captured+++}}. &lt;br /&gt;
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Firstly, with the return of Magnus: the Dark Angels were duped by Tzeentch into leading their own crusade to bring the Space Wolves to account for their protection of the mutated Wulfen. This was eventually resolved with the intervention of the Inquisition who said they would raise their own conclave to deal with the matter. Unfortunately for the Dark Angels, {{Blam|+++those traitors escaped our watch +++}} as the Inquisition had {{Blam|+++given zero fucks +++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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It would get worse for them later with Guilliman&#039;s return as the reborn Primarch&#039;s return to Terra was assisted by {{Blam|+++Ravenwing Dark Angels &lt;br /&gt;
including one officer with a HUGE SWORD, obviously a TERRANIC GREATSWORD OF OLD+++}}. While Guilliman didn&#039;t have a clue what to make of {{Blam|+++these mysterious Marines+++}}, they were allowed to be part of the celebratory parade to the Emperor&#039;s palace so they would have been viewed by billions of bystanders. Though most people probably wouldn&#039;t know what to make of black Dark Angels, the Unforgiven were probably clinging to the TV sets while facepalming {{Blam|+++because their military parade walk wasn&#039;t the best+++}}. However, Guilliman did order {{Blam|+++these Marines+++}} arrested when they finally reached the doors to the throne room. The [[Adeptus Custodes]] now have a group of {{Blam|+++undisciplined Dark Angels wearing non-codex colors+++}} in their custody and it may be only a matter of time before they and Guilliman have some idea of what the Unforgiven have been up to (if they didn&#039;t know already). Guilliman did recognize the sword that {{Blam|+++said officer+++}} carried and the sensation filled him with dread. Given that this may be {{Blam|+++a really cool and wholly unrelated+++}} sword, Guilliman may have some inkling as to what might happen if the sword &#039;&#039;(or whatever psychic imprint contained within)&#039;&#039; comes into contact with the Emperor, but has not decided to reveal or act upon that information.&lt;br /&gt;
Bear in mind that having some knowledge directly from the mouths of {{Blam|+++Space Marine traitors+++}} does not automatically provide the whole story on the actual {{Blam|+++building of The Rock+++}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking this further, even if Guilliman does find out (or happens to already know), he would have to be very careful with that information because of his own prior association with the Lion and the Dark Angels during [[Imperium Secundus]] and his own attempts at burying it &#039;&#039;(see the formation of the [[Scythes of the Emperor]] and his sealing of the Library of Ptolemy)&#039;&#039;. He might not be aware of how much the descendants of the First Legion know about this &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;off the record&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; version of history. Even if some {{Blam|+++filthy traitor Marines+++}} came out claiming that the &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Lion was a closet traitor who waited to see who won&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; {{Blam|+++Obvious Chaos lies +++}} and sincerely believed it, Guilliman is one of the few people who actually knew what the Lion was doing for much of the Heresy, even if the Dark Angels don&#039;t know themselves. This is on top of having to contend with the aforementioned unresolved &amp;quot;agenda&amp;quot; relating to the sword of the Lion &#039;&#039;(which Guilliman himself broke)&#039;&#039; and the unknown repercussions of what may come if it reaches the Emperor&#039;s throne room. All in all, Bobby G&#039;s got a lot on his plate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Turns out the {{Blam|+++veterans who are too busy serving the Emperor to repaint their armour+++}} escaped so no secrets getting out today. Also, when they found out, the Custodes went into a full on panic the likes of which hadn’t been seen since the War of the Beast. Maybe GW should calm down with the plot armour for {{Blam|+++the well respected Dark Angel who saved Guilliman and brought glory to the Chapter+++}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Guilliman traveled the Imperium leaving reinforcements and new toys in his wake, Supreme Commander [[Azrael]] ordered a summit of all Supreme Grand Masters to muster on the Rock to discuss the state of things. Considering the reports of Fallen massing in numbers never seen before, the Rock itself being attacked by a  {{Blam|+++vile traitor legion+++}} daemon-prince which appeared to be the cover for the release of [[Luther]], and a recent ambush by the Fallen that had left six chapters of the Unforgiven severely depleted in manpower, suffice it to say that things were looking rather grim. Coincidentally, the summit was gate-crashed by the arrival of Guilliman&#039;s fleet who demanded to board the Rock. The collected Chapter Masters were no doubt concerned by the arrival of an Imperial fleet when the Unforgiven had gathered together as a single Legion, and considered shooting them down. Luckily, it turned out that Guilliman was not there to censure the Unforgiven host but instead came bearing reinforcements in the form of thousands of Primaris Marines. Guilliman also permitted them to retain their [[Deathwing|1st Company]] and [[Ravenwing|2nd Company]] organizations  as an exception to his amendments to the Codex Astartes based on their &amp;quot;excellent service records&amp;quot;, only stipulating that they continue to serve the Emperor well, suggesting he is willing to put up with their unorthodox methods for the sake of his brother. &lt;br /&gt;
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Moreover as a &amp;quot;[[Creed|tactical genus]]&amp;quot; Guilliman isn&#039;t dumb enough to risk losing the unique capabilities that only the Dark Angels and their successors are able to deploy at a moment&#039;s notice. Obviously, due to the current state of the Imperium, neither the Dark Angels nor Guilliman can spare a few moments for &amp;quot;Story Time with Uncle Bobby and the Inner Circle.&amp;quot;  Good thing for Guilliman. The number of people who know/knew about the Secundus besides him [[Emperor|can be]] [[Lion_El&#039;Jonson|counted]] [[Sanguinius|on one hand]], and all of them are either dead or unable to say anything about the matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is also stated that the Inner Circle &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;alone&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; are aware of the &#039;&#039;[[Fallen Angels|very specific prey]]&#039;&#039; that they seek. Therefore while tidbits of information may be held by others outside of the chapter, they do not understand their significance or know what to make of them. Either way, they haven&#039;t acted upon that information so the Hunt still continues as normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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As of Phil Kelly&#039;s book “War of Secrets”, despite Cypher&#039;s antics and having Fallen on Terra, the secret has returned to the status quo, although the new Primaris get treated like shit and are seen as disposable tools. They have made a second Inner Circle (this being the chapter Inner Circle not the whole Unforgiven Inner Circle) for the Primaris who figure shit out and don’t get put in a ditch. The Dark Angels have suddenly become really tolerant; the Primaris literally worship not just the Emperor but the Omnissiah and the Dark Angels just get a bit miffed. As for the new Primaris successors, they were founded without knowing about the Dark Angels&#039; secrets, so we can assume they are not Unforgiven. It is clear that GW are just waiting for Primaris terminator and biker sets, at which point we will get some basic upgrades sprues, and the Unforgiven will fully accept the Primaris.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to a couple of named characters, the Primaris Marines have finally joined the Deathwing and Ravenwing in the form of Bladeguard Veterans and Outriders. While the Ravenwing getting Primaris on bikes is no big surprise, the fact that Bladeguard can be in the Deathwing without wearing Gravis armour is a little confusing ([[Derp|especially since White Dwarf all-but explicitly stated that Deathwing Primaris exclusively use Gravis alongside the Firstborn in Terminator armour]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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According to their 9th edition supplement the rumours of their suspected legion building has earned them some surprising support, the [[Inquisition]], since Guilliman&#039;s return they have grown increasingly concerned at the sheer power that he now wields. They have turned their sights upon the united might of the Unforgiven and now see them as a power that is capable of countering the new lord of the Imperium, should he ever go against what they have built. Considering the not so friendly relationship between Guilliman and the [[Ecclesiarchy]], they may get even more support from them; should a theoretical civil war break out, it will be interesting to see who sides with who.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Legion with &amp;quot;Dark&amp;quot; in its name ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DA-Scouts.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Their scouts are never to be underestimated. Also this is probably the best scout artwork so far. And it&#039;s not new.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the Horus Heresy, the remaining Legions were forced to split into chapters of around 1,000 men according to [[Roboute Guilliman]]&#039;s brand new [[Codex Astartes]], and the Dark Angels followed suit mostly because they had no Primarch to disagree for them; not that it mattered by this point anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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Where [[Rogal Dorn]] [[RAGE|RAGED]] against the idea of splitting his legion, but eventually relented on the threat of civil war, the Dark Angels quietly split themselves up but maintained [[Just As Planned|covert]] contact with each other.  They kept the same chain of command as before and mostly the same traditions and expectations (particularly concerning co-operation in the hunt for the [[Fallen Angels]] but also in referring to one another as &amp;quot;brothers&amp;quot; in arms). &#039;&#039;([[Kaldor Draigo]] noted that the correct terminology for a different chapter is &amp;quot;[[Gene Seed#The Tithe and New Foundings|cousin]]&amp;quot; and resolved to have a word with [[Azrael]] over it)&#039;&#039;.  The Supreme Grand Master of [[The Rock]] is deferred to as the [[Spiritual liege|highest authority]] on the secrets of the newly formed Inner Circle.&lt;br /&gt;
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It transpires from Gav Thorpe&#039;s 2015 novel &#039;&#039;&#039;Unforgiven&#039;&#039;&#039; that the Inner Circle was in fact formed decades AFTER the [[Second Founding]] when [[Cypher]] revealed himself at [[The Rock]] and made it evident that survivors from Caliban who could reveal the truth of what happened would be dropping out of time and space. So the Grand Masters of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Twelve&#039;&#039;&#039; Second Founding chapters held a council and formed the Inner Circle to make sure their collective honour remained intact. Previous to that we must have assumed that the descendants of the First Legion were just relieved to have weathered the Horus Heresy and followed Guilliman&#039;s commands quietly.&lt;br /&gt;
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All in all, the Dark Angels and their successors still function unofficially as a Legion.  This gets the [[Inquisition]] and the [[High Lords of Terra]] particularly worried, though they can&#039;t prove anything since on the surface each chapter has its own distinct chain of command and adheres to [[Codex Astartes|codex]] requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s not known how large the collective Unforgiven actually is; [[Deathwatch (RPG)|Statistics]] indicate that the Dark Angels successors make up around 15% of the total Space Marine chapters at large in the Imperium.  While this does not seem like a massive amount &#039;&#039;([[Ultramarines|Ultramarines]] make up around 50%-66%, depending on which author you ask)&#039;&#039; that would still be around 150 chapters. It is uncertain whether all of those chapters are actually aware of their history, given the Dark Angels prefer to have as few people with the damning knowledge as possible. Yet GW has never presented us with any Dark Angels successors who know of their heritage who are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; part of the Unforgiven &#039;&#039;(the [[Astral Claws]], [[Relictors]] and [[Star Phantoms]] are all &amp;quot;maybes&amp;quot;)&#039;&#039; so we can only assume that once you&#039;re in the club, you&#039;re in balls deep or you get erased.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is known is that the Unforgiven are not beyond drafting new chapters without official sanction &#039;&#039;(like the [[Consecrators]])&#039;&#039; or outright blackmailing the seal of approval out of the High Lords &#039;&#039;(as with the [[Disciples of Caliban]])&#039;&#039;. These chapters are raised with specific purposes in mind, and fill either supporting roles to the collective or are tasked with special missions that the others aren&#039;t prepared for. The officers of the successors also hold unique ranks and titles in the Inner Circle relevant to their Chapter&#039;s function or position within the Unforgiven. The best part is that no one can complain about it. The law is a thousand Marines per Chapter. It never said the Chapters couldn’t make their own new Chapters. It even encourages close co-operation and communication between Chapters so long as their command structures are separate.  The First Legion operates more like a pseudo-Legion than the real thing. Each Chapter fulfills its role to the Legion and they support each other in whatever manner they choose while maintaining a strong feudal-like relationship with each other. There is no command structure in this “Legion” higher than any one Chapter. This functions well simply because these Marines are not dick-waving egotists.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each chapter possesses formations equivalent to the [[Deathwing]] and [[Ravenwing]], though usually operating under different names. This would mean that the collective Unforgiven have access to a whole bunch of surplus archeotech or possess the means to manufacture Terminator suits and fighter planes at a remarkable rate. They also trade recruiting worlds between each other, though each Chapter routinely has more than one anyway. They regularly transfer ownership between them for the specific purpose of ensuring that the Administratum&#039;s records become unreliable and get lost. This practice also has a secondary usefulness: loyalty. By trading recruiting worlds frequently, the Legion ensures that if one world’s population is corrupted, the other Marines from other worlds will not be. Likely a lesson learned from the Horus Heresy in which most Terran recruits remained loyal within the Traitor Legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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So far &#039;&#039;(and for ten thousand years)&#039;&#039; these indiscretions have passed as little more than quiet rumours since the Unforgiven go to [[Ophidium Gulf Crusade|extreme lengths]] to protect their honour. Plus they mostly keep to themselves so no one knows what they&#039;re actually up to. &lt;br /&gt;
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=== LOYAL? Or Traitor? ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++INNER CIRCLE  ACCESS GRANTED+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Gav Thorpe&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;Angels of Darkness&#039;&#039;&#039; was intended to display that the Dark Angels&#039; quest for redemption had made them sinister and brutal, not label them as being traitors (as the wider audience and /tg/ often treats them as). This is because most people took &#039;&#039;&#039;Astelan&#039;&#039;&#039; and the accusations he leveled at the modern-day Chapter and the Lion as truth, not taking into account his jealousy of the Lion nor his skewed interpretation of events and logical fallacies (something that Gav himself has tried to remind people of). Astelan thought the Lion to be a traitor and opened fire on the fleet when they were in orbit around Caliban without &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; attempt at negotiation or communication. The fleet returned fire in self-defense, so Astelan drew the [[FAIL|perfectly logical and sound]] conclusion that the Lion had betrayed them. It doesn&#039;t seem to matter as much as people think it does, however, as Gav himself said that it wasn&#039;t an objective view of what happened on Caliban but a character study on a member of the Fallen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Admittedly, though, some of Astelan&#039;s theories do make just a little too much sense to be easily dismissed, like his belief that the Dark Angels&#039; paranoia and obsession with secrecy is just as much a gene-inheritance from the Lion as it is a post-heresy development. It&#039;s possible it&#039;s something el&#039;Jonson developed (or was tainted with) as an infant in the darkness of old Caliban. However, Astelan&#039;s mind and his recollections of things are unreliable - not only is he a Fallen Angel, he is trying to cause others to fall as well. We only have his word to take for it (not to mention that he ended up consorting with [[Typhus]] against the loyalist Dark Angels over the course of The Unforgiven).&lt;br /&gt;
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Another factor that hasn&#039;t helped the First Legion&#039;s tainted reputation was the implication that the Unforgiven would be destroyed in their entirety if their secret went out - skewing the Dark Angels from ultra-loyalists trying their damnedest to reach some sort of absolution for their wrongdoings and mistakes into a bunch of cowardly extremists concerned only with self-preservation and their honor. This confusion is the result of an attempt to raise the stakes despite universal proof that their assumption is completely wrong. This coupled with the increasing plot emphasis on them abandoning their allies demonstrates some authors prioritizing shock value at the expense of any actual depth the Chapter might have once had. Even though only the Inner Circle hunt Fallen and every other Marine is kept away from hunts, which would mean abandoning allies to hunt Fallen would be outright impossible because only a handful of people in the Chapter are allowed to hunt Fallen.  They are supposedly a calculating, heavily coordinated group orchestrating a covert operation of monumental proportions, yet they [[Derp|clumsily attract the attention of the very people]] they are trying to keep their secrets from. &lt;br /&gt;
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About the only positive thing that can be said about all this is that it at least provokes discussion. As it stands, it&#039;s simply lazy writing. The writers at GW could do a lot with what the Unforgiven would be willing to do or to sacrifice in the name of their hunt for the Fallen, but right now it&#039;s demonstrative of just how threadbare DA fluff has become in recent years. As fun as it is to hypothesize whether or not they&#039;re loyal or traitor, the truth probably has more to do with who they&#039;re loyal to. The Dark Angels themselves are more like the [[Soul Drinkers]] rather than full on Chaos Marines: more devoted to Emps and humanity as a whole than the rotting Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
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To clarify, the First Legion &#039;&#039;(and later Chapter and all their successors)&#039;&#039; are indeed loyal and not traitors. The Lion himself has now been quoted as saying &amp;quot;Loyalty is its own reward&amp;quot;, which sort of kills the whole &amp;quot;they might be closet traitors&amp;quot; thing. There is even an example where the Dark Angels encounter a Consecrators Marine that had fallen to Nurgle. When he was captured, the loyalists explained that there would be no taking him back to the Rock to be interrogated. They did not consider him &amp;quot;Fallen&amp;quot;, since he was not deceived by [[Luther]] who led astray the Angels on Caliban. This traitor was considered weak for allowing Chaos to get to him and was promptly executed and his body left in the dust. Come to think of it, other than the Fallen who fell to Chaos (which seems to not actually be many of them), the Dark Angels don’t seem to have had anyone turn to Chaos, neither Marine nor Chapter.  No other Legion can claim such a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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In conclusion, the sons of the Lion are ostensibly loyal, albeit with a massive guilty conscience that &#039;&#039;(unlike the [[White Scars]] who resolved their internal issues at the time and look back on it as a shameful memory with no guilt placed on the modern descendants of the Legion)&#039;&#039; the Unforgiven &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;cannot&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; let go of, because the sins of the past are &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; ancient history as long as these Fallen Angels keep falling out of space and time to remind them of it. So, what might have begun as a relatively innocuous &amp;quot;stomp the traitor&amp;quot; exercise has devolved into a millennia-long slog. The Unforgiven continue to skirt the grey area as each abandoned battlefield or trusted ally silenced adds to their burden of collective guilt. By now, the actions they have taken to continue the Hunt have become more shameful than the original crime. Therefore rather than the shame fading with the passage of time it only becomes more imperative for them to complete their task.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is spelled out bluntly by [[Troll|Cypher himself]] in &#039;&#039;The Unforgiven&#039;&#039;. While every legion took part in the [[Great Scouring]], the Dark Angels did so in secret, never admitting to having traitors and Horus sympathizers in their ranks like the other eight legions did. Most Fallen were totally unaware of the Heresy and, as a result, they either fell to Chaos of their own accord or were deceived. Now in the 41st Millennium it&#039;s FAR too late to rectify this; the time for earning forgiveness is long past. However, perhaps the Dark Angels&#039; true redemption is near despite their long-running record of questionable actions. The [[Iron Hands]] have been recovering from their fatalistic attitude and repressed emotions in the wake of the Gaudinian Heresy. Perhaps the Dark Angels can finally get past their shame, especially since the recent Horus Heresy books and other lore have explicitly made the Lion&#039;s loyalties very clear. Furthermore, in &#039;&#039;Leman Russ - The Great Wolf&#039;&#039; by Christ Wraight, we learn that the Lion knows about the Wulfen yet never called his brother or his legion out on it despite their mutual grievances, so some interesting revelations may yet come.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the Unforgiven being prepared to do anything and everything in order to keep their secrets hidden, Supreme Grand Master Azrael has stated that should the day ever arrive when the Imperium discovers their dark history and turns its fury upon the sons of the Lion, then the Unforgiven will refuse to raise arms against the Imperium. Not one shot will be fired or blade drawn in their own defense. Although they are prepared to do some very shady things in order to keep their secrets hidden, they are unwilling to plunge the Imperium into what would assuredly be a very costly civil war that the Imperium really can’t afford to fight. &#039;&#039;&#039;They will not be responsible for a second Horus Heresy, or a Badab 2.0&#039;&#039;&#039;. The recent lore has really hammered home that, in spite of how suspicious and shady the Dark Angels are, they have never been &#039;&#039;delusional.&#039;&#039; They know what they are doing is wrong, but they have a ten-thousand-year promise to fulfill.  Also, the reason the rebels in the Horus Heresy rushed to reach Terra instead of being careful was because the Lion and his Legion were coming.  Half the Legions and a third or so of the Imperial Army’s rebels were running away from the Legion previously known mostly as The Angels of Death. &lt;br /&gt;
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With the resurrection of Guilliman, this oath would be tested like never before. With the knowledge that Guilliman had spent time around Cypher and members of the Fallen, Azrael had every reason to believe that the game was up when Guilliman&#039;s armada appeared above the Rock. The temptation to strike back against their potential executioners and to protect his brothers was very real.  Yet despite the possible ramifications, Azrael kept true to his word and ordered the Unforgiven to stand down (good thing old Guilliman still doesn&#039;t know the truth). &lt;br /&gt;
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With the release of the new Codex, Phil Kelly himself said on Twitch TV the full recount of the events on Caliban, short history Dark Angels Good, Fallen Bad, &#039;&#039;just kill the [[Troll|joke]], [[Luke|its not funny anymore]].&#039;&#039; A bit odd considering how he&#039;d go on to release a book where, due to a Fallen releasing a highly infectious psychic plague, the Dark Angels made a deal with the Tau to terminate those infected upon a planet belonging to the [[Angels of Absolution]] (yes, that includes killing the small number of Angels, as they had also been infected) before it spread to other systems. The justification that the book gives is that they could not be seen to be doing it themselves (even though they would have lost nothing by just telling them); they in turn would do the same to the human population under the Tau&#039;s protection. It was either a choice of killing a handful of marines or allowing a potentially apocalyptic plague to run rampant across the galaxy.&lt;br /&gt;
The Angels are not only one of their successor Chapters, but the Dark Angels even go so far as to supply the Tau with gear that would allow the Tau in question to detect all those that had been infected. The Tau in question may have taken it a bit further than anyone might have imagined (it&#039;s the Tau from the game Fire Warrior, he might as well have been screaming &amp;quot;Blood for the blood God&amp;quot;). The whole story is very ham-fisted and ends with the stationed Angels of Absolution finding out, and then promptly covering it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Primaris Marines and suspicions renewed===&lt;br /&gt;
Initially, it seemed that the Dark Angels accepted their new reinforcements without much hassle or fuss, but the Dark Angels players knew this facade wouldn&#039;t last. The codex tells us that as of whatever the present day of the Imperium is (roughly 100.M42) not a single Primaris Marine has made it so far as the Ravenwing, much less the Inner Circle. Excerpts from the Hellblasters show the Primaris have to fight tooth and nail for so much as a word of approval, to say nothing of recognition or acceptance. Hellblaster Sergeant Grellius accepts that it will be no small task to impress the Sons of the Lion and, in the typical stoic manner that should be expected of any member of the 1st Legion, stated &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;And rightly so – for such duty were we created and trained.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; However, he and his Hellblasters had impressed Belial to the point that he may have actually &amp;quot;smiled&amp;quot;, after which they seem to have earned their acceptance among their brethren. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;War of Secrets&#039;&#039; (Phil Kelly again) drops all pretense and reveals just how bad it was for the initial batch of Primaris under the First Legion&#039;s care: a far cry from accepting valuable reinforcements, the Inner Circle considers the sons of Mars to be little more than Guilliman&#039;s spies. The Chaplains and Apothecaries routinely mind-wipe Primaris Marines if they come into contact with Fallen-related missions, hypnotize them to stop asking questions, confiscate and erase their digital cameras, and even use fluids from an [[arco-flagellant]] to keep them under mind control. It’s only the Primaris Marines’ Belisarian Furnace that allows them to resist the mind-wipes and retain enough memories for them to realize they’re being tampered with. &lt;br /&gt;
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The truly horrifying part? This is actually pretty routine for the Dark Angels, even before Guilliman woke up; Interrogator-Chaplains do the same thing to the rest of the Inner Circle, presumably to keep Fallen captives from being [[Catachan Jungle Fighters|&amp;quot;accidentally&amp;quot; shot in the face]] before they can be interrogated, and uninitiated non-Primaris brothers were routinely mind-wiped if they were thought to know too much. All chapters make use of hypno-indoctrination as part of their standard training, but this is normally used to &#039;&#039;add&#039;&#039; to their worth as Marines (see [[Deathwatch]]), while the Inner Circle wants to very much &#039;&#039;subtract&#039;&#039; the more troublesome aspects from their new &amp;quot;reinforcements&amp;quot;. Though since the Emperor himself has been known to wipe the memories of both Marines and Primarchs during the Horus Heresy series, one could joke that the Dark Angels are simply proving their loyalty by following in his glorious example. &lt;br /&gt;
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In &amp;quot;The Unforgiven&amp;quot; (and hinted at throughout the trilogy), it is revealed that all Dark Angels are implanted with hypno code words to prevent another event like Caliban from ever happening again. Asmodai has to incapacitate [[Belial]] when he tries to kill [[Cypher]]. These code words can also be transmitted by a librarian directly into the minds of others. It would seem that a chaplain could unilaterally take command of whole companies of Dark Angels when Sapphon has to fight the urge to use one in a previous book on another captain. Also it involves the chaplain basically giving commands in Latin.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the Primaris Marines during &amp;quot;War of Secrets&amp;quot; didn&#039;t exactly help their course by being remarkably disobedient and downright disrespectful towards the Firstborn Marines, with some referring to the veterans as armored [[Ogryn|Ogryns]] behind their backs. Nor did them referring to the Dark Angels as a Chapter built on lies and swearing to &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;get to the heart of it and expose it all&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;, calling them traitors, and making statements like &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;You’ll get what you deserve soon enough. We Primaris Marines are the future and we will be the death of you&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; get them on the Dark Angels&#039; good side. It’s weird for other reasons as well because outside of the Inner Circle the Unforgiven Marines aren’t any different than normal Marines.  Other than their track record throughout the Imperium’s existence showing them to be significantly more competent at kicking ass on the tactical and strategic level.  This means the Primaris wouldn’t have a reason to think anyone outside of a few individuals were in any way secretive or untrustworthy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite their initial reluctance in accepting the Primaris Marines, the Primaris Marines are very slowly and painfully earning their place among the Chapter. Those that prove themselves and demonstrate their loyalty to the Chapter may be inducted into the new Primaris Circle. Though they can not be brought into the full Inner Circle, it is only a matter of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst there is a massive amount of distrust towards those Primaris brought in from outside of the chapter, the Dark Angels don&#039;t seem to have any problem with Primaris that have been made from scratch by the chapter itself, as they have been properly inducted into the traditions of the chapter. Azrael knows better then anyone else the potential challenges that the Unforgiven will face in the near future, and that every marine will be needed. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Blam|+++There is absolutely no evidence of the following event in any &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;canon&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;records&#039;&#039; so we can safely say that it&#039;s just some Primaris &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;fan girling&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;misinformation&#039;&#039; trying to force them into places they shouldn&#039;t be, as the only &amp;quot;Primaris&amp;quot; in the Inner Circle is Master Lazarus who started off as a proper Space Marine first. (However this story will be left here incase you want to make use of it in your own chapters.) +++}}It was Azrael that informed the Unforgiven that they must start inducting those former Greyshields into the inner circles of the chapters. This coursed no small amount of turmoil, both within the Dark Angels and the rest of the Unforgiven. In order to calm them, Azrael put forward a challenge, he would stake his reputation upon a Primaris Marine of his choosing, Brother Apharan. If this Primaris Marine could pass the required challenges, and come out the other side in a fit state to move up into the upper tiers of the chapter, then this would prove their worth; Azrael would personally oversee his training. It is a testament to the high regard that Azrael is held that the rest of the Unforgiven agreed. Needless to say Azrael chose well, and the Primaris in question succeeded, going so far as making it into the Deathwing.&lt;br /&gt;
(The full story can be read on page 29 of the September 2019 White Dwarf)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Angels are learning everything that they can about the Primaris creation process (though what chapter isn&#039;t?), with the intent that they will eventually have full control over it; being able to create as many Primaris as they need without outside interference or worrying about their loyalty by training them themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the end of the day Primaris will eventually get shoehorned into the Inner circle, we can only hope that GW actually put some effort into making the lore good as that&#039;s the primary attraction of the Dark Angels chapter. So far that&#039;s not been the case though, as shown by Lazarus where they tried to hype up a Primaris being in the inner circle (which almost no one wanted or cared about) he just ended up being a regular Space Marine who was already in it and just went through the Rubicon, sidestepping the whole issue of letting a Primaris in. &lt;br /&gt;
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You can see how stupid the writing is if you read the Psychic Awakening story &amp;quot;Enmity&#039;s Edge&amp;quot; and see how stupid the Inner Circle in it are depicted; &amp;quot;oooooh, he&#039;s a Primaris now, he must be a different person now hur dur&amp;quot;. If this page should have told you anything it&#039;s that the Dark Angels are not this retardedly stupid and would continue to accept Lazarus as one of their circle and would reserve this hesitation for one of the reinforcement Primaris. The point is, that Primaris entering the inner circle is not a big deal no matter how much GW wants it to be, the big deal is where the Primaris was made, by the chapter or by Cawl. A chapter made and trained Primaris will have few issues entering the Inner Circle other than not being able to fit in terminator armour.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cool Shit ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dark-angels-4000x2500 come at me bro.jpg|600px|thumb|right|Come at me [[Fallen Angels|&amp;quot;Bro&amp;quot;]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
As the very literal &amp;quot;First&amp;quot; Legion, they were equipped with gear that predated the pacts with Mars, and were supposed to have inherited much of their equipment from the time of Old Night and the armouries of ancient Terra. They were permitted to retain exclusive access to these items (by the Emperor&#039;s own command) which were often never seen in other later Legions which were raised to the standard template.  For whatever reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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These included:&lt;br /&gt;
*Fellglaives equipped with Warp Cannons instead of Volkite Carronade and Vindicators which fired warp/vortex shells (Warp shells/missiles/whatever teleport inside the target, Vortex unleash small warp rifts).&lt;br /&gt;
*Land Raiders equipped with Anti-Grav engines instead of tank treads.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stasis Missiles &amp;amp; Grenades&lt;br /&gt;
*Molecular Acid Boltshells&lt;br /&gt;
*Short ranged Plasma Repeater carbines and Plasma Burners.&lt;br /&gt;
*Phosphex Incinerator cannons [[Awesome|used by Terminators]] according to &#039;&#039;Angels of Caliban&#039;&#039; (Phosphex was normally considered a horrible and dishonorable weapon, the Dark Angels don&#039;t give a fuck)&lt;br /&gt;
*A unique pattern of aircraft called a Swordstrike Interceptor which they might or might not still have&lt;br /&gt;
*A unique type of super-heavy tank which acted as a mobile Void Shield generator called a &amp;quot;Portcullis Mono-track&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Along with a host of other forbidden tech, the Dark Angels where also given authority to use a large number of enslaved [[Men of Iron]] during the Great Crusade.   &lt;br /&gt;
*When they say they had access to forbidden tech, they really aren&#039;t kidding. The stuff they have hidden away could unleash a new &#039;Age of Strife&#039;, if the Emperor ever gave the order; even if the Great Crusade failed he could make sure that no one else won either (burn it all down and start again). Did we mention that these weapons are stated to be stored in areas that can even survive Exterminatus level events, and would survive even if the ships that they are on are destroyed...  Some of this stuff is clearly not human in origin. It&#039;s essentially Pandora&#039;s box; once some of this stuff gets out, you won&#039;t be able to put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much of this gear would not see use in the 41st Millennium &#039;&#039;(or the tabletop)&#039;&#039; and the chapter adheres to a slightly more &amp;quot;codex-equivalent&amp;quot; loadout, probably because GW re-uses the same Space Marine range for most chapters. Though it is strongly implied that the Rock still contains a hoard of archaeotech within its dungeons from the old days.&lt;br /&gt;
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So far, all they&#039;ve got to show for themselves is bikes with plasma-guns and cool pick-axes, some sturdy but mediocre flyers, some minor Land Speeder variants, and a supposedly disproportionate number of Terminator suits (taking potential casualties into account they have to have over 200 of the fucking things!). That is, so far as the Imperium knows. I mean, if a lot of interesting wars and operations were just...never reported...&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s hoping that GW/FW remembers that the Emperor sent these guys out on Crusade before he sat down and actually made the other Legions, so they can get their act together and make Dark Angels distinct.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Dark Angels Fleet ===&lt;br /&gt;
Both Forge World and the Black Library books have hinted quite a bit at the Dark Angels Legion having had a very prominent void presence. They are noted to specialize in extended independent void operations and the 1st Legion&#039;s artificers were known to create the distinctive &#039;Paravane&#039; sub-type armour: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;an idiosyncratic variant of the widely issued Mark II which was renowned for its enhanced void endurance and systems.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Though this never really gets mentioned in later 40k, but there&#039;s no stopping you using the conversion kits to represent &amp;quot;Void Hardened&amp;quot; Armour in Zone Mortalis games, if you ever play those. This would also explain why they would have a crap ton of [[Terminator]] Armor.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although they didn’t have the largest fleet nor have the largest number of capital ships (those honours belonged to legions like the [[Imperial Fists]] and the [[Iron Warriors]] respectively), the First may still have owned one of the most powerful fleets among the legions at that time. Chalk it up to the fact that they used a whole bunch of weapon designs that were left over from the Dark Age of Technology and had a large number of void fortresses that nobody else knew about. Which, by the way, means there may be hundreds or even thousands of Dark Angels Chapters in the void no one knows about as the legion creates its own (it did so publicly at least once that we know of and we know they can build their own everything). During the Thramas campaign, Sevatar’s reaction to seeing the full force of the First Legion&#039;s fleet bearing down upon the Night Lord&#039;s legion can be summed up as “well we&#039;re fucked, time to run away” (place obligatory Monty Python joke here). Even when the Lion headed towards Macragge, leaving the largest part of his fleet in the hands of Corswain, the fleet assets he took with him were still described as being enough to casually wipe out the defenses surrounding Guilliman&#039;s home and then split the world in two. &lt;br /&gt;
*Some of the fleet were armed with something similar to the Rift Cannons on the Dark Angels 40k Dark Talons but on a massive scale; such weapons would be devastating in a void combat environment.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Dark Angels legions fleet was almost never to be found in one place, instead it would be spread out into a large number of smaller fleets; however don&#039;t underestimate these fleets as each will contain some very old and power ships, dating all the way back to humanities golden age, and each fleet will be centred around a bloody [[Gloriana-class Battleship]] (that&#039;s right they had multiples of these things).    &lt;br /&gt;
*The Lion would lead a fleet no larger then any other of the legion, as he wanted each fleet to be just as capable as his own. The fleet he is seen using during the Heresy numbered enough ships to sustain 20,000 marines; this combined with the current Dark Angels chapter fleet numbers, sustaining the supposed &amp;quot;1000&amp;quot; marines, we can get a rough bench mark for the size of Dark Angels legion fleets during the Crusade, however the Imperial Fists are said to have the largest fleet at over 15,000 warships. Due to the numbers that are traveling with the Lion, we can reasonably conclude that the Dark Angels had at least 10 main fleets operating at any given time during the Crusade.  &lt;br /&gt;
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It makes sense that the Dark Angels fleet was on the larger end given that the majority of their successor chapters are Fleet based &#039;&#039;(the fact that being fleet based means that they are harder to keep track of and monitor is of course completely accidental and in no ways intended. After all, what could they possibly have to hide right?)&#039;&#039; However, by the time of 40k and their diminished status as a &amp;quot;Chapter&amp;quot;, even when excluding [[The Rock]] itself their fleet capabilities are certainly above average when you compare raw numbers with other chapters. &#039;&#039;With 8 battle barges, 16 strike cruisers and 21 rapid strike vessels they are twice the size of the Ultramarines fleet and almost three times the size of the Blood Angels&#039;.&#039;&#039; However the [[Space Wolves]] have a larger overall fleet and there has been little to no mention of their continued use of archeotech warships and weapons even amongst their successors. However, given that unlike everyone else the Dark Angels never forgot how to maintain and build stuff, it is likely that they and their successor Chapters&#039; technologies never weakened anyway, including their ships.  Aside from that, every other instance of degrading technology in 40k is pointed out to our faces, but this is never brought up regarding Dark Angels technology.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is important to note the Dark Angels are one of the very few chapters to still have a Gloriana-class ship, the &#039;&#039;Invincible Reason&#039;&#039;. Additionally they do make almost exclusive use of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Hunter-Class Destroyer&#039;&#039;&#039;. Other chapters have access to the template, but the Dark Angels prefer it because they don&#039;t like getting their new fleet assets from the same sources as the Imperial Navy. So the Hunter is like a naval Cobra Destroyer; it acts like a small torpedo boat but is a bit more maneuverable and armoured.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this, unless you believe that the Unforgiven are purposefully concealing the fact that they have a whole bunch of leftover cool shit (which is exactly the sort of thing they love doing), it seems like those glorious days of &amp;quot;Legion&amp;quot; are long past.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In most Chapters all their aircraft from the sleek [[Stormhawk]] Interceptors to the hulking [[Stormraven]] Gunships are piloted by the Techmarines of their Chapter&#039;s armoury. While most Chapters can have anything from 20 to 40 Techmarines at any one time (the Blood Angels have 35),the Dark Angels only have around 22 Techmarines. The low numbers of Techmarines within the Dark Angels can be put down to their distrust of their [[Adeptus Mechanicus|dual loyalties]]. While this lack of specialists would normally be a problem for most Chapters, the Dark Angels are somewhat unusual amongst the Chapters of the Adeptus Astartes in that their unique aircraft the [[Nephilim Jetfighter]] and the [[Dark Talon]] are not piloted by the Techmarines of their armoury. Instead, these agile hunting craft are flown into battle by the expert operatives of the Dark Angels 2nd Company, the [[Ravenwing]] - which gives them a whole (oversized) company that is capable of taking to the skies if they are needed. From “Death from the Skies” we learn that most chapters can field at least two “divisions” (24 to around 48 aircraft) but they are dependent on the number of Techmarines the chapter can afford to deploy. By contrast, the Dark Angels have their 22 Techmarines and the entire Ravenwing which can field at least two “Companies” or six “divisions” (72 to around 144 aircraft depending on the size of the Ravenwing at the time); the Penitent blades (one of the newest chapters), due to the nature of their chosen home base, have twice this number.  Keep in mind that the Ravenwing&#039;s normal ground and speeder vehicles could be piloted by Scouts in a pinch, which means that when deployed as a whole Chapter, the Dark Angels can field nearly one and a half hundred of among the best Astartes fighters along with around a hundred attack bikes and land speeders plus a hundred Terminators and the rest of their battle-brothers. This is without even considering their previously listed examples of technology exclusive to the First Legion.  So...[[anal circumference|what did you roll?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notable Members ==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Azrael]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Current [[Chapter Master|SUPREME GRAND MASTER]] of the Dark Angels.  It’s not at all suspicious that “Supreme Grand Master” implies there must be “masters” for there to be “grandmasters”.  Dark Angels captains are just “captains”...just saying.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Belial]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Grand Master of the [[Deathwing]]. Current member of the Hidden Masters; Azrael&#039;s personal inner circle, they are privileged with knowledge beyond that given to even the regular Inner circle. They are also allowed to access the vast wealth held within the hidden libraries of the Rock that are usually protected by the Watchers in the Dark (not all of it of course, only the right amount; can&#039;t have them learning too much before they are ready); to give an idea to the value of the info the Rock contains, Tzeentch himself sent the Blue Scribes to secretly infiltrate and steal as much info as they could. Azrael himself has access to a vast collection of &#039;True Names, which he uses against their demonic owners. An interesting bit of information about  Belial it that he actually hates all the cloak and dagger shenanigans that go on around him, his desire to track down Gaz is fuelled by him wanting to get away from all the shadow games for a moment and just have a good honest scrap. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Sammael]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Grand Master of the [[Ravenwing]]. Member of the Hidden Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Ezekiel]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Current Chief [[Librarian]]. Member of the Hidden Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Sapphon]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Master of Sanctity- current head chaplain of the Dark Angels; alongside Azrael and Ezekiel, he forms a trinity of level heads that keep the whole thing together. Member of the Hidden Masters. Thought to be a conservative by his brothers, he is actually a deviant named after a famous [[Space Hulk: Deathwing|poetess]] of Greek Antiquity considered [[/d/|the first lesbian known to History!!]] [[Lulz|She also died for the love of a man]]; the Greeks called Homosexuality Kinaidos (Mover of [[Fallen|Shame]]), the Aidos part is a goddess member of the same trinity as [[Grey Knight|Nemesis]]. Sneaky, sleazy [[Games Workshop]]... who knows what will happen to poor Grand-Master Sapphon in the future? &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Asmodai]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Master of Repentance- Notoriously brutal [[Interrogator-Chaplain]] who&#039;s known for being an asshole and failing twice at his job for every success. Member of the Hidden Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Naaman]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - Noted Scout Sergeant&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Corswain:&#039;&#039;&#039; The [[Paladin]] (Company Champion) of the Ninth Order; he would later become the Lion&#039;s Seneschal. A Caliban born Dark Angel he was despite his young age widely considered one of the finest blades among the Legiones Astartes, his name ranking among such legends such as [[Sigismund]] and [[Sevatar]]. Despite coming from such a taciturn and insular legion he had by the time of the Heresy gained a well-respected reputation among the other legions with even Guilliman referring to him as “beloved Corswain”. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Alajos:&#039;&#039;&#039; The [[Dark Angels Grand Master|Grand master]] of the Ninth Order, a Terran-born veteran of the old legion and the Lion’s go-to champion when needed. He was also one of the few people Sigismund of the Imperial Fists respected and considered a true friend and brother-in-arms. He also stood his ground against a very angry Russ, refusing to stand down or move aside to allow him to retrieve his sword that he had lost after the Lion had disarmed him during the fight. Russ did take his axe instead though and then later handed it to the first new Space Wolf to be inducted into the new Space Wolf chapter after the legions were disbanded. He would meet his end upon Tsagualsa holding off both [[Sevatar]] and Sheng of the [[Night Lords]]. Alajos and Corswain represent different sides of the Legion with Alajos representing all the positive elements of the old legion and Corswain representing the new breed of Dark Angels and what they might have become if events had happened differently.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Cypher]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - see his page for details&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Lazarus:&#039;&#039;&#039; Captain of the 5th company, and only primaris member of the Inner Circle. He has a hard-on for killing psykers (Thousand Sons specifically), and was introduced in a white dwarf to replace Captain Balthazar, then featured prominately in the Ritual of the Damned chapter of the [[Psychic Awakening]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Daily rituals==&lt;br /&gt;
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04:00-Morning Prayer: The Dark Angels are roused from their cells to begin prayer at the leadership of the Interrogator-Chaplain. Prayer is extra long compared to most other Chapters due to {{Blam|+++DARK ANGELS BEING SO LOYAL THAT THEY WANT TO SHOW THEIR DEVOTION TO THE EMPEROR AND THE LION.+++}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
06:00-Morning Firing Rites: The Dark Angels take to the ranges to begin firing practice.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
07:00-Battle Practice: The Dark Angels descend to the battle cages to practice in close-combat. Members of the Ravenwing will practice with their bikes and land speeders, while members of the Deathwing will practice {{Blam|+++counter Alpha Legion scenarios+++}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
9:00- {{Blam|+++Chocolate milk and cookies break while listening to Enigma or Gregorian music.  Also, free meditation time+++}}.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
12:00-Midday Meal: A light meal is prepared by the Chapter Serfs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
12:30-Tactical Indoctrination: The Dark Angels will engage in tactical briefings on opponents they will be facing in the future. Members of the Inner Circle determine targets.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; At this point a battle-brother may visit the Apothecary.  Meanwhile, Interrogator-Chaplains interrogate {{Blam|+++heretics and traitors+++}}.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
14:00-Afternoon nap with dimmed lights and soft instrumental music playing in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;16:00-Evening Fire Rites: The Dark Angels take to the ranges to begin firing practice. They usually use black-colored targets to better hone their skills at shooting.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
17:00-Evening Prayer: The Dark Angels assemble for prayer under the Interrogator-Chaplains, who have just finished their {{Blam|+++lively discussions+++}}.&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
19:00-Evening Meal: A feast is prepared by the Chapter serfs. Dessert consists of of angel&#039;s-food cake with a layer of dark mint chocolate, which the chapter serfs are extremely careful in their delivery to the mess halls as those which drop it and cause it to fall soon come to regret it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
20:00-Maintenance Rituals: The Dark Angels will tend to the maintenance of their wargear while also washing their robes. Members of the Ravenwing will perform maintenance of their attack bikes and land speeders.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
00:00-The Dark Angels will retire to their cells for sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why is there a 4 hour break in the schedule? &lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++Time is relative in the Rock+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Frequently asked questions==&lt;br /&gt;
*Why are you called the Unforgiven?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Imperial Truth|{{Blam|+++For failing to protect the Emperor in His darkest hour +++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Why is your rank Interrogator Chaplain?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Fallen Angels|{{Blam|+++The rank comes with the responsibility of seeking the repentance of the heretic Astartes, traitors, etc.+++}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Didn&#039;t I read that in the Index Astartes that your armour is black? Why is it green now?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++Contrary to some heretical rumours, our armour is green so that we don’t get confused with our [[Raven Guard]] brothers. The only Dark Angels who wear black are the operatives and pilots of our Ravenwing company. [[Cypher|Should you see some Astartes wearing ancient wargear with Dark Angels iconography]] please report them to the nearest Dark Angels officer so [[FATAL|that they may be brought in line with the Codex Astartes regulations]]. Also the Codex itself is centuries out of date. We have raised these concerns with Lord [[Guilliman]], who has informed us that such errors will be corrected in the Codex Imperialis.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Wouldn&#039;t that get confusing with the [[Salamanders]], who are also green?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++No. The Salamanders are usually on fire, making it very easy to distinguish between them and us.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*I have seen some [[Watchers in the Dark|little beings]] with Dark Angels carrying some relics. What are these Watchers?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++Worry not, these are just chapter serfs, not associated with xenos in any way+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Why are said serfs repelling Daemons with their mere presence?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++A good question, faithful servant of the Emperor. Please follow this servo skull to our debriefing room down this dark and totally not conspicuous hall and Brother-Librarian [[Ezekiel]] shall implant your mind with its secrets.+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*What happened to [[Caliban]], your homeworld?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++It was destroyed by heretic Astartes during the Heresy. The Rock is all that remains of our homeworld.+++}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What happened to your Primarch? Where is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]]?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++With a heavy heart, we must tell you that he is lost to us, perhaps slain by the forces of Chaos. None can say if his body was found, and evidence of his whereabouts has been buried, but we believe he will return to guide us again +++}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What happened to the allies that were fighting alongside the Dark Angels who suddenly disappeared?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Exterminatus|{{Blam|+++We are unaware of their present location. Only bolt shells and plasma burns were encountered. We suspect an ambush from the despised Traitor Legions.+++}}]] &lt;br /&gt;
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*What is this Imperial Secundus we keep hearing about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Blam|+++ Our knowledge of the Imperial Secundus is little better than the average imperial citizen. We suggest directing questions about it to Lord Guilliman. [[Commissar|Preferably when he doesn&#039;t have a firearm or power weapon at his side.]]+++}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Dark Angels&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The Unforgiven&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;) are amongst the most loyal, honoured, accomplished and powerful [[Space Marine]] Chapters in the Imperium. Their grim determination and relentless persecution of their foes are legendary, and their combat record tells a long tale of selfless heroism.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Litany of the Dark Angels: Space Hulk Deathwing ==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Heralds of the coming Doom, by cry of Raven, we are drawn.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;This oath of war and vengeance, on blade of exalted iron sworn&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;With blood anointed swords aloft, advance we, into Dread’s dark shade.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Punishment divine unleashed with hate, a wrathful storm of bolt and blade.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Purge with plasma, fist, and shell, bring cleansing fire’s righteous breath.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;For the Emperor, Knights of Caliban! The Lion’s anointed Angels of Death!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;No forgiveness&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;No retreat.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Chapter Uniform==&lt;br /&gt;
The original Dark Angels had black armour, back in the days of the [[Beakie|Corvus pattern helmets]]. Modern Dark Angels instead use a dark green colour, except for the [[Deathwing]] and [[Ravenwing]] companies, which are composed entirely of bone-white Terminators and black Fast Attack units respectively. They were introduced in the Deathwing expansion to 1st edition &#039;&#039;[[Space Hulk]]&#039;&#039; with a spiffy background story by Bill King.&lt;br /&gt;
*To paint your armour black was to show that you served the Emperor directly in the same way Sigismund did when he was chosen to serve as the first Emperor&#039;s Champion.&lt;br /&gt;
*It could be that one of the reasons for swapping the black for the green was because they no longer felt worthy of it. The Dark Angels are literally wearing their shame for all to see, but no one else knows it. &lt;br /&gt;
*The Dark Angels wear green to remember Caliban&#039;s forests. The Calibanites first started it during the Heresy and it spread throughout the legion after the destruction of Caliban. (Some who were upset about how the Imperium had basically devoured Caliban&#039;s resources {and forests} as an expression of anger and possibly loyalty to Luther..or Caliban..or both.. it gets complicated)&lt;br /&gt;
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Veterans wear robes and capes and such on the field of battle representing any number of ritualistic ranks and titles that are mostly unknown to those outside of the Chapter but harken back to the traditions of &amp;quot;The Order&amp;quot;. Plus they look pretty [[awesome]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;Gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
File:DA Codex Cover.png|Here&#039;s some badassery right here.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lulz.jpg|Happens quite often.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Dark-Angels-warhammer-40000.jpeg|Funnily enough, the angrinator-pattern helmet utilized by the Angry Marines was actually pioneered by the Dark Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Dark Angels awesomeness.jpg|Always recognizable with their beautiful artworks and &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;amazing aesthetics.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; FUKKEN DUALWIELDING FLINTLOCKS.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Interrogator Chap.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Welcome sir, let&#039;s start your [[FATAL|&amp;quot;interview&amp;quot;]] ([[Mark Gibbons|MG]])&lt;br /&gt;
File:Unforgiven.jpg|The Dark Angels and most of their confirmed successors&lt;br /&gt;
File:Beakie da fe ft.JPG|On the left: Dark Angel trooper in the glory days of the Legiones Astartes.&lt;br /&gt;
File:The_truth.jpeg|The true secret of the inner circle&lt;br /&gt;
File:Eternal-Crusade-Dark-Angel.jpg|Just a friendly reminder to all Dark Angels currently playing “Eternal Crusade”: every time the phrase “YOU HAVE FALLEN” appears on your screen brother Asmodai will kill a puppy. &lt;br /&gt;
File:-spacehulk-parchemin.png|Battle Hymn of Vengeance&lt;br /&gt;
File:20171125 150941.jpg|November 25, 2017—a date which will live in infamy—&lt;br /&gt;
File:FB_IMG_15118378317321618.jpg|Chicks dig Dark Angels&lt;br /&gt;
File:Space-Marine-Veteran-Print.jpg|Robes: always a classic.&lt;br /&gt;
File:FunkoPop-Jan21-DarkAngel8jvdds.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fallen DAMarine.jpg|The Dark Angels&#039; turnover rates after their serfs have just mopped the floor are horrendous.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lance Decurion.jpg|Dark Angels Lance Decurion&lt;br /&gt;
File:Space_marine_38.jpg|Dark Angels as depicted during the dark ages of GW art&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Dark_Angels (9E)|Dark Angels Tactics]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dark Angel Shoulder Pad]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwZISypgA9M Unofficial theme song for the Dark Angels]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckom3gf57Yw Unofficial theme song for the Unforgiven]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...&#039;&#039;&#039; Rage is the most important fuel on which the [[neckbeard]] runs (with [[meatbread]] coming at a close second), and the only way to get his share of rage is to grapple the [[troll]] whenever he appears on /tg/. Here is a summary of the things /tg/ hates and the most common sources of trolling.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes known as Raeg, never to be confused with [[Commissar Raege|Raege]], or there &#039;&#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039;&#039; be rage. Also, this has nothing to do with that boring 2011 video game.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Things that /tg/ Loves to Hate==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/tg/]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[1d4chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[4chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
** [[/b/|/b/tards]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[/tg/|Itself]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** [[Neckbeards|Fatbeards]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The Alphabet&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avatar]]&lt;br /&gt;
** James Cameron&#039;s idea of a furry vs human world&lt;br /&gt;
** Ridiculous premise&lt;br /&gt;
** Plot holes so big you could walk through them&lt;br /&gt;
** Furries(see below)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[C.S.Goto|A CERTAIN MUTILATOR OF INK AND PAPER WHO HAS A RAGING CHUBBY FOR MULTILAZORS AND FLUFF-MUTILATION]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chakat]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chris-Chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/d/M]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dawn of War 2]]&#039;s Multiplayer Mode outside of [[Last Stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Derp]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drizzt]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drowtales]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dungeons and Dragons; all editions, but especially [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 3rd Edition|Third Edition]] and [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 4th Edition|4th Edition]] &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 4th Edition]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** People who hate said Fourth Edition&lt;br /&gt;
*** People who like said Fourth Edition&lt;br /&gt;
*** World of Warcraft clone&lt;br /&gt;
*** Removes the versatility/complexity of 3.5&lt;br /&gt;
** People who complain when the biggest problem of the last edition got fixed&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Dwarf Fortress]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Graphic tileset &#039;&#039;Dwarf Fortress&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** ASCII &#039;&#039;Dwarf Fortress&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dwarves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Emoticons&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything&lt;br /&gt;
* Existence&lt;br /&gt;
* Ex-Sharran emo/goth [[elves|elves]] seeking [[Dark Angels|redemption]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[FATAL]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Overly complicated&lt;br /&gt;
** [[wizard|Wizards]] are overpowered&lt;br /&gt;
** Need a prestige class to be successful&lt;br /&gt;
** Literally runs on [[Dakka]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Stories|Fanfics/Writefaggotry]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fiction &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fish of Fury|Fish of Fucking Fury]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Floppy premises.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[gay|/tg/ only likes strong and virile, shafts with a strong girth capable of going deepe enough to cause a righteous orgasm and a sticky mess.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Furry|Furries]], especially [[Flare]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Werewolf|Werewolves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Games Workshop&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Halo]] (maybe)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/tg/&#039;s homebrews|Homebrews]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Forcing &amp;lt;the homebrew&amp;gt; on to your players&lt;br /&gt;
** Creating your own personal FanFic&lt;br /&gt;
** Because a random person on the internet has better insight into game mechanics than a professional game designer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Imperial32|Imperial32]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jokaero]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Mainly the barrel of monkeys&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kender]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Matt Ward]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Robin Cruddace]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** [[Phil Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Yu-Gi-Oh|That fucking game]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[My Little Pony]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Could be [[skub|arguable]], as some fa/tg/uys actually &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; it. &lt;br /&gt;
*** This causes the rest to rage hard enough to make up for the loss.&lt;br /&gt;
****Hey, if its popular enough to be parodied by famous internet people like the nostalgia critic, it must have some merits, right? {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|One could make the same argument for Twilight, heretic.}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Nothing&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Orc|Orcs]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ork|Orks]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Skub]]&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Star Trek]] reboot.&lt;br /&gt;
** J. J. Abrams&#039;s lens-flare faggotry&lt;br /&gt;
** J. J. Abrams fucking remorseless destruction one of the 3 founding worlds&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[StarCraft]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Steven Universe&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fags of 4chan|Tripfags]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Order of the Stick]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** The art is shitty.&lt;br /&gt;
** Even if the art is done on purpose, it&#039;s still shitty.&lt;br /&gt;
** Where are the jokes?&lt;br /&gt;
** Wall of Text/WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS&lt;br /&gt;
** The story sucks [and, implied, that this doesn&#039;t make up for shitty art/no joke]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Page 42]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Reality&lt;br /&gt;
* Quests, and those participating in them.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Roleplayers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Rollplayers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Suptg]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Tabletop]] [[Wargame|Games]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[That Guy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The End Times&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! SIGMAR DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Troll]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Twilight&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/v/|Video games]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Weeaboo]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Warhammer 40,000]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Expensive figurines&lt;br /&gt;
** [[C.S. Goto|Multilasers]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Matt Ward|Matt Fucking Ward]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[loli|Kids]] obsessed with [[Space Marines|SPEESH MAREEENS]]&lt;br /&gt;
** the death company&lt;br /&gt;
** Ultramarines&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]]&lt;br /&gt;
**People who hate said AoS (WAAC faggots)&lt;br /&gt;
**People who like said AoS (GW shills)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]] 3rd Edition&lt;br /&gt;
** Special Dice&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;It&#039;s a Damned Card Game&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;No it isn&#039;t. Fuck you. &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Yes it is. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[WARMACHINE]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[-4 Str|Women]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[WoD]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[World of Warcraft|WoW]]&lt;br /&gt;
* You&lt;br /&gt;
**Especially You&lt;br /&gt;
*Matt Ward&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Rage-b.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:CUP OF RAGE.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Blurage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Redrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:MustNotRage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Pcrageblue.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Blueragelow.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Vegetarage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Altrageface.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Screamrage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Derprage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Grouprage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Smileyrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Atomicrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ragearab.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ffffffffff.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Neckbeardrage.gif&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Kirbyrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:ARGH.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:FATRAGE.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Rage doom tv.jpg|[[Rip and tear|Rage and TV!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Incoming rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Diglet rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Neckbeard skub rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ork rage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:angrynerdrage.png|&lt;br /&gt;
Image:FIST_OF_THE_FUCKING_NORTH_STAR_RAGE.jpg|As long as the Sun, the Moon and the Earth exist, everything will RAGE. Wait, wrong [[anime]]...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Countenance of fury.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Endrage.jpg|An improbability: THE RAGE HAS ENDED.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:emperage.png|The Emperor is displeased.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Thomas the RAGE Engine.jpg|ALL ABOARD THE RAGE TRAIN&lt;br /&gt;
Image:TG&#039;s_avatar.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Explosive_Rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Dungeon the dRAGEoning.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Techrage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HD-epic-rage.jpg|Now in HD, for the new decade.&#039;&#039;&#039;NO THE RAGE HAS RAGED INTO COLOR&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kanaya_chainsaw.gif|[[Sisters of Battle|Sister of Battle]] initiate [[Homestuck|Kanaya Mayram]] shows you how [[rage]] is done. (With a chainsaw)&lt;br /&gt;
Image:TheresultofeveryTCGgeneral.jpg|http://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?/topic/156119-100-reasons-why-your-game-is-awful/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anger]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angry Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heresy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ribbon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skub]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Not directly related to [[MAD]] but it may a source of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P.S: If your Rage can be heard a) on the other side of the Planet, b) in Space, c) in Limbo AND d) by your own Son twenty Years into the Future, then you&#039;re doing something right! Or not. Depends on who&#039;s at the receiving end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VGZebsmEA &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, read this. Seriously, keep reading you won&#039;t be disappointed. http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Slaanesh&#039;s_sacrifice.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RAGE]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Rage</title>
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		<updated>2021-04-19T15:13:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2600:8801:1906:5700:ACB2:DB92:FE4D:F946: Updated with different descriptors/links&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Rage-a.jpg|thumb|The famous Rageface]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...&#039;&#039;&#039; Rage is the most important fuel on which the [[neckbeard]] runs (with [[meatbread]] coming at a close second), and the only way to get his share of rage is to grapple the [[troll]] whenever he appears on /tg/. Here is a summary of the things /tg/ hates and the most common sources of trolling.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes known as Raeg, never to be confused with [[Commissar Raege|Raege]], or there &#039;&#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039;&#039; be rage. Also, this has nothing to do with that boring 2011 video game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Things that /tg/ Loves to Hate==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/tg/]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[1d4chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[4chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
** [[/b/|/b/tards]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[/tg/|Itself]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** [[Neckbeards|Fatbeards]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The Alphabet&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Avatar]]&lt;br /&gt;
** James Cameron&#039;s idea of a furry vs human world&lt;br /&gt;
** Ridiculous premise&lt;br /&gt;
** Plot holes so big you could walk through them&lt;br /&gt;
** Furries(see below)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[The Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[C.S.Goto|A CERTAIN MUTILATOR OF INK AND PAPER WHO HAS A RAGING CHUBBY FOR MULTILAZORS AND FLUFF-MUTILATION]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chakat]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chris-Chan]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/d/M]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dawn of War 2]]&#039;s Multiplayer Mode outside of [[Last Stand]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Derp]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drizzt]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drowtales]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dungeons and Dragons; all editions, but especially [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 3rd Edition|Third Edition]] and [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 4th Edition|4th Edition]] &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons 4th Edition]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** People who hate said Fourth Edition&lt;br /&gt;
*** People who like said Fourth Edition&lt;br /&gt;
*** World of Warcraft clone&lt;br /&gt;
*** Removes the versatility/complexity of 3.5&lt;br /&gt;
** People who complain when the biggest problem of the last edition got fixed&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Dwarf Fortress]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Graphic tileset &#039;&#039;Dwarf Fortress&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** ASCII &#039;&#039;Dwarf Fortress&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dwarves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Emoticons&lt;br /&gt;
* Everything&lt;br /&gt;
* Existence&lt;br /&gt;
* Ex-Sharran emo/goth [[elves|elves]] seeking [[Dark Angels|redemption]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[FATAL]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Overly complicated&lt;br /&gt;
** [[wizard|Wizards]] are overpowered&lt;br /&gt;
** Need a prestige class to be successful&lt;br /&gt;
** Literally runs on [[Dakka]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Stories|Fanfics/Writefaggotry]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fiction &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fish of Fury|Fish of Fucking Fury]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Floppy premises.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[gay|/tg/ only likes strong and virile, shafts with a strong girth capable of going deepe enough to cause a righteous orgasm and a sticky mess.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Furry|Furries]], especially [[Flare]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Werewolf|Werewolves]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Games Workshop&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Halo]] (maybe)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/tg/&#039;s homebrews|Homebrews]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Forcing &amp;lt;the homebrew&amp;gt; on to your players&lt;br /&gt;
** Creating your own personal FanFic&lt;br /&gt;
** Because a random person on the internet has better insight into game mechanics than a professional game designer&lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Imperial32|Imperial32]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jokaero]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Mainly the barrel of monkeys&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kender]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Matt Ward]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Robin Cruddace]]&lt;br /&gt;
*** [[Phil Kelly]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Yu-Gi-Oh|That fucking game]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[My Little Pony]]&lt;br /&gt;
** Could be [[skub|arguable]], as some fa/tg/uys actually &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; it. &lt;br /&gt;
*** This causes the rest to rage hard enough to make up for the loss.&lt;br /&gt;
****Hey, if its popular enough to be parodied by famous internet people like the nostalgia critic, it must have some merits, right? {{BLAM}} {{BLAM|One could make the same argument for Twilight, heretic.}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Nothing&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Orc|Orcs]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ork|Orks]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Skub]]&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Star Trek]] reboot.&lt;br /&gt;
** J. J. Abrams&#039;s lens-flare faggotry&lt;br /&gt;
** J. J. Abrams fucking remorseless destruction one of the 3 founding worlds&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[StarCraft]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Steven Universe&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fags of 4chan|Tripfags]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Order of the Stick]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** The art is shitty.&lt;br /&gt;
** Even if the art is done on purpose, it&#039;s still shitty.&lt;br /&gt;
** Where are the jokes?&lt;br /&gt;
** Wall of Text/WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS&lt;br /&gt;
** The story sucks [and, implied, that this doesn&#039;t make up for shitty art/no joke]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Page 42]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Reality&lt;br /&gt;
* Quests, and those participating in them.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Roleplayers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Rollplayers]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Suptg]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[RPG|Tabletop]] [[Wargame|Games]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[That Guy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The End Times&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU! SIGMAR DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Troll]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Twilight&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[/v/|Video games]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Weeaboo]]s&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Warhammer 40,000]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Expensive figurines&lt;br /&gt;
** [[C.S. Goto|Multilasers]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Matt Ward|Matt Fucking Ward]]&lt;br /&gt;
** [[loli|Kids]] obsessed with [[Space Marines|SPEESH MAREEENS]]&lt;br /&gt;
** the death company&lt;br /&gt;
** Ultramarines&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Warhammer: Age of Sigmar]]&lt;br /&gt;
**People who hate said AoS (WAAC faggots)&lt;br /&gt;
**People who like said AoS (GW shills)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]] 3rd Edition&lt;br /&gt;
** Special Dice&lt;br /&gt;
** &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;It&#039;s a Damned Card Game&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;No it isn&#039;t. Fuck you. &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Yes it is. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[WARMACHINE]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[-4 Str|Women]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[WoD]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[World of Warcraft|WoW]]&lt;br /&gt;
* You&lt;br /&gt;
**Especially You&lt;br /&gt;
*Matt Ward&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Rage-b.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Rage-c.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CUP OF RAGE.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Blurage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Redrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:MustNotRage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Pcrageblue.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Blueragelow.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Vegetarage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Altrageface.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Screamrage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Derprage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Grouprage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Smileyrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Atomicrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ragearab.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ffffffffff.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Neckbeardrage.gif&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Kirbyrage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:ARGH.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:FATRAGE.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Rage doom tv.jpg|[[Rip and tear|Rage and TV!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Incoming rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Diglet rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Neckbeard skub rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ork rage.png&lt;br /&gt;
Image:angrynerdrage.png|&lt;br /&gt;
Image:FIST_OF_THE_FUCKING_NORTH_STAR_RAGE.jpg|As long as the Sun, the Moon and the Earth exist, everything will RAGE. Wait, wrong [[anime]]...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Countenance of fury.JPG&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Endrage.jpg|An improbability: THE RAGE HAS ENDED.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ohoho.png|More probable: Time for [[rape]].&lt;br /&gt;
Image:emperage.png|The Emperor is displeased.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Thomas the RAGE Engine.jpg|ALL ABOARD THE RAGE TRAIN&lt;br /&gt;
Image:TG&#039;s_avatar.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Explosive_Rage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Dungeon the dRAGEoning.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Techrage.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HD-epic-rage.jpg|Now in HD, for the new decade.&#039;&#039;&#039;NO THE RAGE HAS RAGED INTO COLOR&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
File:Kanaya_chainsaw.gif|[[Sisters of Battle|Sister of Battle]] initiate [[Homestuck|Kanaya Mayram]] shows you how [[rage]] is done. (With a chainsaw)&lt;br /&gt;
Image:TheresultofeveryTCGgeneral.jpg|http://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?/topic/156119-100-reasons-why-your-game-is-awful/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anger]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angry Marines]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heresy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ribbon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skub]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Not directly related to [[MAD]] but it may a source of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P.S: If your Rage can be heard a) on the other side of the Planet, b) in Space, c) in Limbo AND d) by your own Son twenty Years into the Future, then you&#039;re doing something right! Or not. Depends on who&#039;s at the receiving end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VGZebsmEA &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, read this. Seriously, keep reading you won&#039;t be disappointed. http://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:Slaanesh&#039;s_sacrifice.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:RAGE]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>2600:8801:1906:5700:ACB2:DB92:FE4D:F946</name></author>
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