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Primaris Space Marines

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[[File:New40KPrimarisArt1.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Look out Chaos, there's a new kid on the block.]]
{{Topquote|They were forged for Mankind's darkest hour, and that hour is upon us.|[[Roboute Guilliman]]}}
{{Topquote|In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light.|Unnamed Primaris Officer}}
{{Topquote|Today, we are canceling the apocalypse!|Marshal Stacker Pentecost, from the movie Pacific Rim}}

Primaris Marines (also known as Ultra-Ultramarines, Space Space Marines, Primarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Gigglymarines, Super Space Marines, Biglymarines, Space-marine Space-marine Space-Marines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, [[Stormcast Eternals|Spacesigmarines]], Guillimarines, Special Snowflake Marines, [[Mary Sue|Primarysues]], Primacucks, Ultra-Ultrasmurfs, Marines II: Electric Boogaloo, the Replacements and the New Kids) are the next step forward in Space Marine evolution (not counting the [[Raptor]] supermarines by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood). [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, faster, stronger, and maybe smarter than all that have come before them. Buckle up boys, its about to get hot in here.

==History and Background==
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against ''hundreds of thousands'' CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least.

Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]], our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch's [[/d/|genetic material]] that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.

Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman's plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival, Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.

In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters.

However, in the Black Library novel "Dark Imperium", Guilliman calls Primarises "Cawl's blasphemous hordes". So much for daddy's love, eh?

==New Stuff==
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it's the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it's got that sweet Maximus style vox grill. As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don't talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]]. As of 8E, this translates to +1T. Shiny.
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking, with <strike>crocs, capris, and</strike> skull-faced helmets.
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a "perfected" version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - 30" Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP-1 D1 - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new "Special Issue Boltgun" Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.
**At least two variants of Bolt Rifle exist- the Auto Bolt Rifle, which has lower AP but is better suited for longer ranges due to being Assault 2, and the Stalker Bolt Rifle, a Heavy 1 sniper variant with superior range and one extra point of AP.
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don't have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 20.
**The new organs are:
***'''Sinew Coils''', which turn the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay, we may be joking here, but it's basically metallic coils wrapped around the Marine's tendons and ligaments that can contract with extreme force.
****This is particularly interesting, as it's not actually a living organ, and hence is presumably not developed from gene-seed at all.
***'''The Magnificat''', which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the '''Immortis Gland''' intended for Primarchs, though the information needed to complete it is lost), as well as producing additional growth hormone.
***'''Belisarian Furnace''' (because Cawl gets a robo-boner for naming things after himself), essentially a 'last-stand' organ, which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration. This presumably explains the additional Wound they have.

==Potential Problems==
*While Primaris Marines are created from the gene-seed of all the Loyalist Primarchs, it is unknown how some of the more extreme genetic quirks of each bloodline will manifest in them. We could see anything from [[Blood Angels]] with cute little Cupid wings, to [[Flesh Tearers]] with terrifying vampire fangs, to transparent [[Raven Guard]], to even blacker [[Salamanders]], to [[Lamenters]] with greying temples and bags under their eyes (for a true "too old for this shit" attitude), to [[Black Dragons]] that look like a metal hedgehog with giant, adamantium coated bone spines and [[Space Wolves]] [[Fur Heresy|with fluffy little tails]]. But then again there's NO reason to actually expect the new modifications to worsen their genetic quirks. They're marines with new enhancements, not marines with a double dose of gene-seed or anything. It's probably somewhat more likely to strengthen their resistance to their quirks if anything. It's all up to whatever GeeDubs wants to do though, [[just as planned|so anything is possible]].
**According to Cawl, the Primaris gene-seed is actually even more stable than the standard version, with an estimated deviancy of .001% per generation. So far, it's at least been stable enough to create a Space Wolves successor that hasn't immediately devolved into Wulfen.
***It's unknown how stable normal marines who have been "upgraded" are, however.
*** The new Blood Angels codex confirms that they do suffer from the Red Thirst, but have more control over it than their counterparts. No Primaris Blood Angel has succumbed to the Black Rage...but whether they're actually immune to it is unknown.
**Robbie MacNiven, writer of the Carcharodons novel Red Tithe, has revealed that everyone's favorite space sharks WILL be receiving their own Primaris Marines, adding to the above interest in Chapter-specific quirks among Primaris. PRAISE THE FORGOTTEN ONE.
*In terms of actual combat experience, these guys are jumping into the deep end as green as an ork's asscrack. They may be bigger, stronger, faster, and have better armor and weapons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the marines they are reinforcing are their seniors by centuries, not even mentioning the battle experience of Chaos Marines. Well maybe yes/no: [[skub|The Dark Imperium novel says that the first batch of Primaris Marines are actually augmented space marines from the days after the Horus Heresy put into stasis and are constantly pestering the whippersnappers with tales of what the Imperium was like 10,000 years ago]].
**Later it's stated that they mainly consist of Neophytes from various chapters who were drafted into the program, so they are <s>utterly green</s> ONLY harshly trained and have little true combat experience compared to most Marines. Think scouts on steroids.
**Rather than making interesting fluff out of this idea, the writers are trying to jump the plot forward from year 41,001 to 41,113 via the Indominus Crusade, a 112 year crusade where [[Great Crusade|an entire Legion of (mixed ancestry) Primaris marines]] called the Unnumbered Sons of the Primarchs (or Greyshields, after their shared heraldry) got enough experience that the writers can just treat Primaris Marines as normal Space Marines. Which sucks, because there could've been a great story in that.
***We get little hints of this having to prove themselves goodness in, the Dark Angels codex. A group of Hellblasters are half put off, half inspired by the strictness of their primogenitor. After the squad gets trapped in a hive city for days fighting off enemies, they rack up so many kills even Belial can't help but smile.
*The Dark Angel example above illustrates another problem: how well will the new Primaris Marines get along with their chapter? The Dark Angels are an extreme example given their <s>issues</s> UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE IMPERIUM, but other chapters may have their own problems getting the first couple batches of Primaris marines to get with the traditions and cultures of their chapters.
**As the Primaris have no Terminators( Aggressors are debatable) or Biker units or any real equivalents.(yet, if GW thought that far ahead) I.e. Hellblasters and Inceptors can be deployed in place of Sternguard and Vanguard Veterans in other chapters. With the exception of Primaris Liberians, induction into the Inner Circle or the lower ranks of the Ravenwing is unlikely.
*Primaris Marines are probably much harder and more expensive to produce than regular Astartes, especially when their borrowed Custodes lineage is taken into account. There may be entire chapters of them at first, but those numbers may not last long as they will likely be far harder to replenish after heavy casualties, and Primaris chapters probably wouldn't be able to bounce back from something like Rynn's World.
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] became obsessed with "perfecting" the Primaris Marines from the moment he first encountered them and has already begun trying to kidnap Primaris Marines for dissection. They've supposedly been made resistant to Chaos influence, but "resistant" doesn't mean "immune" by a long shot, since they still have a soul. In fact a [[Noxious Blightbringer]] is able to effect them in Dark Imperium, successfully hurting and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn't help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.
***Cawl claims that it was only due to the influence of the traitorous Primarchs that their Legions fell to Chaos. While this may be true, attempting to test that theory would almost certainly be a bad idea.
***The reasons as to why the the Lost Legions were purged so thoroughly were apparently so unthinkably horrible (so much that even after his rebellion had begun, Horus was still unwilling to break the vow he made to never speak of the Missing Primarchs) that Cawl trying to use their DNA might bite him in the ass even harder than for using gene-seed from the Traitor Primarchs.
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception to or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines. Orks would likely find them entertaining to fight, and Tyranids would just see them as more biomass to consume, with some extra chewy bits from the Sinew Coils. Given Fabulous Bill's interest in them, it's likely [[Haemonculus|Fabius' Commorite mentors]] will also find interest in them, as will [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot scientist]]. Fortunately, this could only benefit the Ynnari-Imperium alliance, who will most likely be the most accepting of it. There's no reason the Tau will see any problems, though if a kroot managed to eat a dead Primaris. that could lead to some "developments".

==Forces of the Primaris Marines==
[[File:Blood Raven 1.JPG|300px|thumb|right|"[[Roboute Guilliman|Lord Commander]], the batch 3789-Alpha is missing! Just after the visit of..." "[[Just as Planned|I know.]]"]]
Primaris Marines don't get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat. Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.
*'''[[Primaris Captain|Primaris Captain:]]''' Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even ''MOAR'' egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They're armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the Mark X Tacitus power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There's also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries.
*'''[[Primaris Librarian|Primaris Librarian:]]''' Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.
*'''[[Primaris Chaplain|Primaris Chaplain:]]''' Self-explanatory; they wear black robes as though they're aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage.
*'''[[Primaris Lieutenant|Primaris Lieutenants:]]''' The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).
*'''[[Primaris Ancient|Primaris Ancients:]]''' Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard's Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he's been upgraded. In case you were wondering, "Ancient" is a corruption of the rank of "Ensign" which was a term for an army's flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.
*'''[[Primaris Apothecary|Primaris Apothecary:]]''' A specialization of Primaris Marine only seen so far in artwork and recent promo photos. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a <s>cyberdong</s> mechadendrite on the Apothecary's back.
*'''Primaris Techmarine:''' One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That's about all we know.
*'''[[Reiver|Reivers:]]''' Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It's time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Reivers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they're nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.
*'''[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]''' Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]], but with a 3+ save. They have an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain's Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they're equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.
*'''[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]''' Intercessors are the <s>standard</s> SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they're armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they're even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).
*'''[[Inceptor|Inceptors:]]''' Inceptors are the <strike>[[Assault Marines]] equivalent</strike> drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors' focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn't mean they can't fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of "normal" Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don't get it in your head that their melee ability is "good", though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.
*'''[[Hellblaster|Hellblasters:]]''' Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there's nothing special about them as compared to "regular" Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it's not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they're at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)
*'''[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]''' For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnought status, we'll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they're so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn't be saved are made dread-ful.
*'''[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:''' The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody's entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can't go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking ''Primarchs.'' There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door - which also blocks the door on this thing if you try to convince a ''non''-Primaris to go inside. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere, including on its rear and sides, put twin-linked lascannon in the front hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.
*'''Overlord:''' The Overlord is the Primaris-exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them, but it seems they are ''too'' [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is '''ECKS BAWKS HUEG''', making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they're considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|'borrowed']] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].
*'''[[Astraeus|Astraeus Super-Heavy Tank]]:''' Surely the result of a grudging 3-way between a Mastodon, a Sicaran, and a somewhat reluctant Repulsor, the Astraeus is the first Primaris super-heavy tank (implying there will be more variants on the way) and looking to be an utter beast on the tabletop - it's armed with Land Raider style frontal Heavy Bolter mount, two front angled sponsons for Las-Rippers or Plasma Eradicators, topped with a turret mounted dual Macro-Accelerator Cannon. Given how expensive it is to field a decently kitted repulsor, it remains to be seen how viable it will be to concentrate so many points into one vehicle.

==On the Tabletop==
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly common now, so while it might not be a big improvement it can still be helpful. However, they also have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a "basically Kraken" Bolter with +6" range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6" range and -4 AP, and half-range [[AWESOME|one-handed Assault Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons. That they dual-wield. With jump packs.]] Defensively, so far only they have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain, Aggressors, and Inceptors can use it). Finally, their squads don't mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to "standard" marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.

Most of the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a <del>5</del> 10 model maximum (including the Serge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they're far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 36" is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren't financial in origin they can't take '''any''' transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you're not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game, and even then, it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can't carry too many). They have a special transport called a Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]), which somehow can't carry non-Primaris, but besides that they have no choice but to go footslogging.

However, single-model units can be astonishingly efficient - the most extreme case is the Primaris Librarian, who has a static, unchangeable loadout, but costs the exact same as a non-Primaris Librarian with the same loadout (a bolt pistol and Force Sword).

===Rules Datasheets===
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside. Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.
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==Gallery==
===Miniatures===
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File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the Juggernaut BITCH!
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus]]!
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Being a Librarian ain't easy.
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|The Chaplain. Totally not [[Blizzard|Reaper from Overwatch]].
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|The Apothecary.
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!
File:Reivers.jpg|Boo, assholes!
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire ''squad'' of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns.
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing! Inspired by Youjo Senki?
File:IMG-20171123-WA0005.jpg|Lieutenant Tolmeron inspecting his sword with no option to change the pose of his miniature. Thanks, GW
File:IMG-20171123-WA0002.jpg|Lieutenant Zakariah. Look at how sly his face is, like he has just <s>apprehended the Fallen </s> CLEARED ALL HERETICS FROM THE SECTOR
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===Pictures===
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File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren't they beautiful?
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!
File:Aggressors.jpg|The Aggressors box.
File:PassiveAgressors.jpg|Passive Aggressors, ready to make catty remarks at the enemy
File:Chap&apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain.
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===Assorted===
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter
File:Primaris_comparison.png|Numarine, the carefree playboy, and Oldmarine, the grizzled vigilante. [[Batman|Have you ever seen them in the same art together?]]
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{{Primaris Marine-Forces}}

Gabriel Angelos

2018-01-06T21:36:04Z

2601:147:4200:6280:F1E3:387E:1E87:EE7D: /* On the Tabletop */

:''"Had the Emperor not intended I suffer, then I would feel no pain."''
:-Gabriel Angelos in ''[[Dawn of War#Dawn of War|Dawn of War]]''.
[[Image:Gabriel_dow.JPG|300px|thumb|right|Gabriel Angelos is one of the few non-[[Space Wolves|Sphess Wolf]] space marines that actually has some hair, not to mention a huge mouth.]]

'''Gabriel Angelos''', AKA Gabriel Mangelos, is a commander of the [[Blood Ravens]] [[Space Marines]]. He first appears in ''[[Dawn of War]] 1'' as third company Captain, and as of ''DoW 2: Retribution'' he has succeded that scheming heretic Azariah Kyras as Chapter Master.

Contrary to other stubborn, hot-headed captains of other [[Space Marines|Spess Mehreen]] chapters, Gabe is cool and calm in most situations - like [[Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]]. Instead of first killing the enemies and then helping the population, Gabriel manages [[Just as planned|just as planned]] tactics that let him do both things at the same time. Apparently Gabriel had to call the [[Inquisition]] after a recruiting excursion to his home planet, Cyrene, when he discovered some heretical (no one really knows) shit going on. The Inquisition launched an [[Exterminatus]] to fix it, which resulted in Gabe turning into a mournful bastard and also the only mournful bastard left alive from Cyrene.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Q34IEdK-8 He also plays the grand piano], making him one of, if not the only non-[[Noise Marines]] known to play a musical instrument. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1zMF53jmbE He's not the only one...]. He also has a tendency to yell "Dick" while throwing dildos at peoples faces ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z1Nd_2zIrY&list=PL0D8C3E4B80598B78 especially if those are Chaos Space Marines or Traitors]).

Angelos is nearly universally liked by /tg/ and indeed the Warhammer community as a whole. He's strong, heroic, and noble, while compassionate, intelligent, and perhaps one of the few objectively good people in all of Warhammer while still being grimdark (in fact, he's basically [[A Song of Ice and Fire|Ser Davos Seaworth]] in 40k). And unlike [[Marneus Calgar|some]] [[Kaldor Draigo|others]] he manages to pull this off in a believable manner, is realistically flawed and generally was dragged through hell to accomplish his deeds. While not everyone thinks that Relic did the best job with Warhammer, few will say that Gabriel is a poorly done character. Problem, Ward?

==Gabe's role in Dawn of War I==
Gabe commanded the Blood Ravens 3rd Company who were tasked with stopping an Ork invasion of the planet [[Tartarus]] led by [[Warboss]] [[Orkamungus]]. After wading through the Orks and assorted Eldar, it's eventually revealed that [[Bale]], a [[Chaos Lord]], was orchestrating everything and planning to recover an artifact called the "[[METAL BOXES|Maledictium]]", which imprisoned a great daemon of Khorne (It wasn't a Bloodthirster, but probably a daemon prince).

During the campaign he proves to be a pretty reasonable dude, saving civilians and diverting resources to protect them, proving that one does not have to be grimdark 24/7 in the shitpile battlefield of a galaxy to be a famous character. Unlike [[Marines Malevolent|certain assholes]], they care for the innocent, and spend extraordinary effort to rescue people and actually walk the walk when all you are what remains between [[Ork|retarded beligerent fungus]], [[Chaos|spiky faggots on crack with dental issues]] and a horde of innocent men, women and children.

Gabriel's friend and one of the only other survivors from Cyrene was [[Isador Akios]], a Librarian who served in Gabriel's company. Bale's [[Chaos Sorcerer]] lieutenant, [[Sindri Myr]], telepathically subverted Isador against the Imperial forces, which led to him taking the Maledictum when it was unearthed. Isador blamed Gabe for the [[Exterminatus]] of Cyrene, but Gabe claimed that he did it for the good of humanity. Isador may have further argued the point, but Gabriel instead decided to cut the bullshit and to perform a time-honored Space Marine cleansing ritual to free Isador from the taint of the dark gods; [[Blam|the ritual itself closely resembled discharging a bolter round directly into Isador's head at point-blank range]].

After the death of Isador, Gabe got his shit together and faced off against Sindri, now a daemon prince of Khorne (Much to Khorne's dismay, a sorcerer even offering tribute to him). He eventually succeeded in bashing Sindri's head into his spine and saving Tartarus from becoming a daemon world. His last act before leaving Tartarus was to smash the Maledictium with God-Splitter, [[Mordecai Toth|Inquisitor Mordecai Toth]]'s daemon hammer, even after the warnings of [[Macha]] that he'd doom everyone by doing it. In Just as Planned fashion, it did; rather than banishing the bound daemon (which given that God Splitter is an Daemonhammer built to kill daemons would be an expected out come), destroying the Maledictum freed it. Based on the daemon's endgame gloating monologue, all the "blood sacrifice" of wartime death (mostly Angelos's personal handiwork, including Orkamungus, Bale, and finally Sindri) had strengthened the daemon enough for it to escape the shattering intact. Gabriel then had to live with the fact that he was responsible for its freedom and would fight it if it should ever appear again.

==Gabe's role in DOWII==
In [[Dawn of War II]] Gabe is back, now a full-fledged hair-etic, with a bitchin' cape, his old Daemonhammer and several drop-pods of fuck you to share with the Tyranids. He's so awesome that his battle-cry makes everyone around him almost as awesome as he is, and so becomes invulnerable for a few seconds, and he can hit someone so hard that their motherfucking armour shatters. You only get to play him during the final mission in the original DoWII though.

==Gabe's role in Chaos Rising==
In the many battles that transpired during the Campaign of Chaos Rising, Gabriel Angelos stayed on the Litany of Fury and did very little apart from kill stealing in the final battle. His phoning it in this time made even more egregious since he wasn't stuck in the warp, lazy old codger that he is. This may be a clever ploy however to 'dispose' of a certain HAIRITIC, by sending him on suicide missions. He was also branded a traitorous heretic by Kyras (The Blood Raven' Schmuck Master and Chief Dick) through the Honor Guard leader Diomedes. However, depending on the Force Commander's actions, Diomedes can be persuaded to see that Kyras is a heretic or can simply be slain.

At the end of the game, Angelos made this speech;

"''Brothers, victory is ours! You have driven the Black Legion from the sector, and defeated the vile daemon who sought to consume us. But a more terrible battle yet remains, our chapter is in the hands of a madmen and a heretic, Kyras, he who should be the greatest of us, has bargained away his soul to the Powers of Chaos! While we, are branded as renegades and traitors, my brothers, this CANNOT, THIS -WILL NOT- STAND. (Insert Force Commander's fate here) LET NONE FIND US WANTING, BY CHAPTER AND EMPEROR."

The rest of the speech regarding the Force Commander and his men depends on how well you take care of not going to Chaos. Maintaining a high purity level leads you to becoming the Force of Retribution within the Chapter, partial Purity leads both you and Angelos to be declared Renegades by Kyras. Maintaining a neutral purity or slightly corrupted level means you are exiled to the Eye of Terror for at least a 100 years until you die or kill everyone. At half+ but not at full corruption, Angelos brutally kills you on the spot with his Thunder Hammer. At full corruption, Angelos swears to kill you for becoming a Chaos Lord. He can't do it there because you took your ship for a spin in the Eye of Terror.

==Gabe's role in DOWII Retribution==
[[Image:Rt sm gabriel 01.jpg|thumb|right|Gabriel in his most Awesome in Retribution]]
In Dawn of War II Retribution, Gabe gets his ass pwnd by Kyras, the previous chapter master who turned to the dark gods during Chaos Rising. After getting said ass pwnd (literally), he got smashed by Kyras' demon fists of fisting. He gets saved by [[Apollo Diomedes|Diomedes]] (the player) via spamming orbital bombardments on Kyras' face, thus proving that [[dakka]] > chaos.

Lastly, Gabriel comes back at the end of the game as the Chapter Master of the BLUHD REHVENS. So, lets make this perfectly clear to you: Thule gets cut up by a Warrior beast and has to be interred in a [[Dreadnought]] (because of poison). Angelos is crushed by the flaming fists of a Daemon Prince of Khorne. Chapter Master Angelos is now mostly bionics, which, when combined with his profound dedication to the Emperor and Imperium as a whole, makes him a kind of foil for [[Lugft Huron]]. Anyway, this may be explained by the fact that the aforementioned flaming fists were just flaming fists (in other words, sterile, though chaos infused) while the aforementioned Warrior Beast had all sorts of shit on it's claws '''THAT COULD MELT POWER ARMOR AND FLESH LIKE SOME REALLY STRONG ACID OR SOMETHING''', either that or his fucking AWESOMENESS or raw [[plot armor]] allowed him to live

<s>(Which begs the question how the fuck was he able to kill SIIINNDRIII the Daemon Prince back in DoW and come back one piece.. wut)</s> ''(Sindri merely tapped a small portion of the Daemon of the Maledictum's power, which while making him significantly more powerful than an ordinary daemon prince, does not hold a candle to Kyras becoming ONE with the Daemon of the Maledictum AND gaining enough favour through mass slaughter to ascend normally, making him quite likely the most powerful new daemon prince since the Daemon Primarchs)''

It is said that the retribution 'Epic end' is a combination of the Eldar, Imperial Guard and space marine endings, as well as parts of the Chaos Space Marine ending. [[Taldeer]]'s soul stone is rescued, the Blood Ravens purify their chapter, Castor gets the head of Kyras mounted in his already impressive trophy gallery, and Eliphas will regain his badassness and become a Daemon Prince.

He also has a sexy old man voice and several of the most broken (and awesome) abilities in the game. Though he is second to [[Eliphas]] in this regard, who, with a fully upgraded Sweeping Doom, can ROFLstomp an entire army with a single sweep.

==Old Gabe's return in DoW III==
[[Image:Gabriel-DoW3.jpg|thumb|600px|Angelos in DoW3 in his new shiny armor]]

For now we don't know much about Gabe's role in DoW III other than that [[Magnus the Red|he's lost his right eye]] and that he's confirmed as Chapter Master and he will be the commander of Space Marines and their Imperial Knights allies in the new story. It also appears he will be donning Tartaros (<s>or Cataphractii...nobody knows</s> its a heavily modified Tartaros, if you look at the chest section from behind its quite clear.) Terminator Armor (that somehow allows him to [[C.S. Goto| ninja flip into enemy formations while dropping Godsplitter on them like he was in fucking Cirque du Soleil]]) [[Blam|He also has a new voice actor...again.]]

He leads the Blood Ravens to the planet of Acheron, battling with the Eldar and Orks in a race for a powerful weapon known as "The Spear of Khaine". Gabe, however, desires not its power as he believes the Spear to be corrupted (and will corrupt any who wields it), and swears that no one will obtain the spear until his dying breath. He then has a heart-to-heart with Macha about smashing the Maledictum.

[[Wat|He then teams up with Gorgutz and Macha to defeat a bloodthirster. After the fight, he just... leaves them be. He doesn't try to kill them or anything, he just let's them fuck off,]] [[Grimdark|Because apparently Relic forgot what Warhammer is about.]]

==In books==
{{WTF}}
{{heresy}}
The [[C.S.Goto|Midget Goto]] wrote a series of DOW books (this pleased him) which were about Gabriel's adventures, but since this only provoked Nerd Rage from both fans and Redshirts alike, his stuff is not [[canon|CANON]]. Speaking of Novels, one apparently claims that Gabriel was an Imperial Guardsmen before becoming a Space Marine. This is bullshit of the highest order, as the biological implants of a Space Marine can only transplanted into candidates at a young age and many only join the ranks as full fledged battle brothers at something close to 18 (the only exception is the [[Angry Marines]]; their writefaggotry implies they can recruit from adults too, as well as, presumably, the Space Wolves because they only recruit from people who have already fought gloriously in battle and children don't really do very well with fighting). That means that Gabe must have been something between 8 - 13 when he became an infantryman in the Guard, which is impossible because the conscription age of the guard is usually 13 ([[Cadia]] notwithstanding), and they usually don't conscript unless they're under constant attack and are running out of trained guardsmen to throw at the enemy. Additionally, according to the Midget Goto, he's a 'symbol of hope to the Biel-Tan Eldar', despite the Biel-Tan being the most racist and xenocidal craftworld of all. He also had a thing with Macha which ended when she had to turn herself into some kind of green warpfire to stop the Necrons at Lorn V and disappeared from the story afterwards.

Dammit Goto! Just stick to putting multilazers on the multilazers on the multilazers. So that you can shoot multilazers while you shoot multilazers while you shoot multilazers. It might be retarded but it can be written off as an in-universe quirk of some idiot with a few spare multilazers lying around. [[Matt_Ward|Completely '''fucking up''' the fluff by re-writing the fundamental motivations and character of entire races]] can not be overlooked in the same way!

A more recent short story reveals what exactly happened on Cyrene- while there were no explicit signs of corruption present there at first glance, the planet was just about ready to launch a full rebellion against the Imperium; in light of the discovery that psykers were no longer being taken to the Black Ships and that trade with xenos was the norm, the Inquisition declared the situation to be grounds for Exterminatus. The one week of orbital bombardment was actually preceded by an all-out assault on the ground by the Blood Ravens and the Grey Knights, because apparently the Inquisition wanted to be absolutely sure nothing could possibly survive (that, or they were afraid killing too many psykers at once would cause bad things to happen). Gabe had hope he could save his father from the purge, but to his horror he learned that his father was one of the rebellion's leaders and had despised the Imperium ever since Gabriel had been chosen to become a Space Marine. With a heavy heart, Gabriel had no choice [[Grimdark|but to execute his own father]](<s>Doesn't this mean that Gabe is pretty young for a Space Marine? I mean, his father is still alive</s> You don't have to be a space marine to live for centuries as rejuvenate treatments for higher ranking Imperials like former officers). No wonder he refused to talk about what happened on Cyrene.

==On the Tabletop==
[[File:Gabriel-Angelos Mini.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Gabe has a Mini now! And you might want to convert a helmet onto it because by the Emperor did [[Forgeworld]] [[FAIL|fuck up his face.]]]]

Recently, [[Forge World]] has seen fit to grace the tabletop with Gabriel's presence, based on his Dawn of War III appearance; while his official statline isn't quite as cheesy as the fan-made version below, he's still a force to be reckoned with.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="left"
! || Pts || M || WS || BS || S || T || W || A || Ld || Sv
|-
| '''Gabriel Angelos:''' || 185 ||6" || 2+ || 3+ || 4 || 4 || 6 || 4 || 9 || 2+/4++
|} 
As you can tell, his BS is low for a named Space Marine character but that doesn't matter much since his only ranged weapons are grenades. Instead, he should be in melee at all times, ideally backed up by a squad of other Tartaros Terminators to take advantage of his higher-than normal movement compared to a standard Captain/Chapter Master in Terminator armor. His signature God-Splitter can be used in two modes: the standard mode acts like a basic Thunder Hammer but with the added ability to cause mortal wounds, while the Arcing Swing mode is a dedicated horde-killer that lowers its stats to +2S AP-1 1 D in order to give Gabe the ability to perform a number of attacks equal to the amount of units within 1" of him- and just as importantly, it lacks the -1 to hit that a Thunder Hammer would normally have. Between that and coming with the Chapter Master's ability to reroll failed hits, he's far better at fighting blobs than he looks. Finally, his Retribution rule give him one last "fuck you" to an enemy who removes his last wound in melee by letting him deal d3 mortal wounds to the model that took him out. He also has a little bit of added versatility when compared to other named Space Marine characters due to a quirk in the rules; as the Blood Ravens' primogenitor is unknown, Angelos doesn't need to be restricted to a Chapter-specific Warlord Trait like most named Space Marine characters and can use any of the available Chapter-specific Stratagems or Chapter Tactics. In fact he might be the best character you take.
As Master Artisans Salamanders tactic will allow him and army to reroll hits during the Assault and Shooting phases. While Anvil of Strength will allows [[Anal_circumference|God-Splitter to hit at Str10!]]. Iron Hands tactics, while not buffing his damage output will give the Magpies. It does improve their durability on a +6. However the real reason to choose Iron Hands is that it allows you to use Captain [[Smashfucker]] in the same army as Gabriel.

==Codex: Gabriel Angelos==
If you ever wanted to play a cheesy Captain/Chapter Master for fun based off of Gabe's DoW/DoW2 appearances, here's your statline.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="left"
! || Pts || WS || BS || S || T || W || I || A || Ld || Sv
|-
| '''Captain Gabriel Angelos:''' || 200 || 6 || 5 || 4 || 4 || 3 || 5 || 4 || 10 || 2+/4++
|-
| '''Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos:''' || 260 || 7 || 5 || 4 || 5 || 4 || 5 || 4 || 10 || 2+/4++
|} 

'''Chapter Master''': Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos possesses the rank of Chapter master, and as such, may be accompanied by an Honour Guard squad, in addition, he may call down a single orbital bombardment per game (see Codex: Space Marines).

'''Wargear''':
* '''Master Crafted Power Sword (Captain Only)''': Can be Swapped for Godsplitter for 10 pts.
* '''Godsplitter (Only weapon when as Chapter Master)''': Force Weapon that's Master crafted to be usable by those with Pi-Rho psyker levels
* '''Left Hand of Gabriel''': Is replaced when Gabriel chooses to take Godsplitter.
* '''Artificer Armour''': See Codex Space Marines.
* '''Reclamation of the Chapter (Chapter Master Only)'''
*'''Iron Halo''' (Captain only)
* '''Frag Grenades'''
* '''Krak Grenades'''

'''Special Rules''':
* '''Independent Character'''
* '''Eternal Warrior'''
* '''And They Shall Know No Fear'''
* '''Chapter Tactics (Blood Ravens)''': As per the rules for all Chapters who do not know their primogenitor Chapter, the Blood Ravens do not have a unique Chapter Tactic. Instead, the player can elect to "borrow" any existing Chapter Tactics from Codex: Space Marines and any Forge World supplements.
* '''Inspiring Presence''': Even before becoming Chapter Master, Gabriel was known for his uncommon leadership capabilities. All friendly units in a range of 18" can use Gabriel's Ld when testing for Morale, Pinning and Fear.
* '''My Foe Shall Fall!''': Gabriel has squared off in combat against some of the most terrifying and powerful foes the Blood Ravens have faced in recent centuries, including colossal Daemons and Tyranid Bio-terrors. Gabriel's close-combat attacks against Monstrous Creatures gain a +1 to I.
* '''My Faith is My Shield! (Chapter Master Only)''': Despite the heresy and treachery that has plagued the Blood Ravens in recent years, Gabriel has never wavered from his faith and maintained absolute loyalty to the Emperor. In combat Gabriel channels his purity through the hallowed wards inscribed into his blessed armour. Once per game, Gabriel may give himself a 2++ Invulnerable save for the duration of a single combat phase, regardless of whether it is yours or your opponent's.
* '''Cybernetic Enhancements (Chapter Master Only)''': After his battle with Kyras much of Gabriel's body had to be rebuilt with so much cybernetics that he would put [[Marneus Calgar]] to shame. As a result he is more resilient than before. This grants him +1 Toughness (already included in profile).
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* '''Godsplitter''': God-Splitter is a powerful Daemonhammer gifted to Gabriel Angelos of the Blood Ravens 3rd Company by Inquisitor Mordecai Toth on the planet Tartarus to combat the Daemon of the Maledictum. Just like every Daemonhammer, Godsplitter strikes with the speed of a lightning bolt. Unlike every Daemonhammer, this weapon strikes with an even greater and truly terrifying power.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name !! Range !! Strength !! AP !! Type
|-
| '''Godsplitter''' || - || 10 || 1 || Melee, Two-Handed, Master Crafted, Concussive, Strikedown, Anathemic Presence
|}

** '''Anathemic Presence''': Attacks from this weapon force units with the Daemon USR to re-roll all successful saves granted by that rule.

* '''Left Hand of Gabriel''': Blood Ravens Captain Gabriel Angelos used this pistol to slay the traitor Isador Akios, once his closest friend. Angelos discarded the weapon in disgust at the Ruinous Powers and the taint they bring to Man. His battle brothers recovered the weapon and returned it to the chapter armory.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name !! Range !! Strength !! AP !! Type
|-
| '''Left Hand of Gabriel''' || 12 || 4 || 3 || Pistol, Master Crafted, Precision Shots
|}

* '''Reclamation of the Chapter (Chapter Master Only)''': This suit of Tartaros Terminator armour was granted for Angelos by the Chapter's Techmarines to honour his ascension to Chapter Master and is designed around his extensive bionics. It has also been inscribed and blessed by the Chapter's Chaplains to signify his victory over the forces of heresy. This is Tartaros Terminator armor that infers the 'My Faith is my Shield' special rule.

== External Links: ==
*[http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=246133 Gabriel Angelos can now be played online via mod]

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Gabriel Angelos

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:''"Had the Emperor not intended I suffer, then I would feel no pain."''
:-Gabriel Angelos in ''[[Dawn of War#Dawn of War|Dawn of War]]''.
[[Image:Gabriel_dow.JPG|300px|thumb|right|Gabriel Angelos is one of the few non-[[Space Wolves|Sphess Wolf]] space marines that actually has some hair, not to mention a huge mouth.]]

'''Gabriel Angelos''', AKA Gabriel Mangelos, is a commander of the [[Blood Ravens]] [[Space Marines]]. He first appears in ''[[Dawn of War]] 1'' as third company Captain, and as of ''DoW 2: Retribution'' he has succeded that scheming heretic Azariah Kyras as Chapter Master.

Contrary to other stubborn, hot-headed captains of other [[Space Marines|Spess Mehreen]] chapters, Gabe is cool and calm in most situations - like [[Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]]. Instead of first killing the enemies and then helping the population, Gabriel manages [[Just as planned|just as planned]] tactics that let him do both things at the same time. Apparently Gabriel had to call the [[Inquisition]] after a recruiting excursion to his home planet, Cyrene, when he discovered some heretical (no one really knows) shit going on. The Inquisition launched an [[Exterminatus]] to fix it, which resulted in Gabe turning into a mournful bastard and also the only mournful bastard left alive from Cyrene.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Q34IEdK-8 He also plays the grand piano], making him one of, if not the only non-[[Noise Marines]] known to play a musical instrument. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1zMF53jmbE He's not the only one...]. He also has a tendency to yell "Dick" while throwing dildos at peoples faces ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z1Nd_2zIrY&list=PL0D8C3E4B80598B78 especially if those are Chaos Space Marines or Traitors]).

Angelos is nearly universally liked by /tg/ and indeed the Warhammer community as a whole. He's strong, heroic, and noble, while compassionate, intelligent, and perhaps one of the few objectively good people in all of Warhammer while still being grimdark (in fact, he's basically [[A Song of Ice and Fire|Ser Davos Seaworth]] in 40k). And unlike [[Marneus Calgar|some]] [[Kaldor Draigo|others]] he manages to pull this off in a believable manner, is realistically flawed and generally was dragged through hell to accomplish his deeds. While not everyone thinks that Relic did the best job with Warhammer, few will say that Gabriel is a poorly done character. Problem, Ward?

==Gabe's role in Dawn of War I==
Gabe commanded the Blood Ravens 3rd Company who were tasked with stopping an Ork invasion of the planet [[Tartarus]] led by [[Warboss]] [[Orkamungus]]. After wading through the Orks and assorted Eldar, it's eventually revealed that [[Bale]], a [[Chaos Lord]], was orchestrating everything and planning to recover an artifact called the "[[METAL BOXES|Maledictium]]", which imprisoned a great daemon of Khorne (It wasn't a Bloodthirster, but probably a daemon prince).

During the campaign he proves to be a pretty reasonable dude, saving civilians and diverting resources to protect them, proving that one does not have to be grimdark 24/7 in the shitpile battlefield of a galaxy to be a famous character. Unlike [[Marines Malevolent|certain assholes]], they care for the innocent, and spend extraordinary effort to rescue people and actually walk the walk when all you are what remains between [[Ork|retarded beligerent fungus]], [[Chaos|spiky faggots on crack with dental issues]] and a horde of innocent men, women and children.

Gabriel's friend and one of the only other survivors from Cyrene was [[Isador Akios]], a Librarian who served in Gabriel's company. Bale's [[Chaos Sorcerer]] lieutenant, [[Sindri Myr]], telepathically subverted Isador against the Imperial forces, which led to him taking the Maledictum when it was unearthed. Isador blamed Gabe for the [[Exterminatus]] of Cyrene, but Gabe claimed that he did it for the good of humanity. Isador may have further argued the point, but Gabriel instead decided to cut the bullshit and to perform a time-honored Space Marine cleansing ritual to free Isador from the taint of the dark gods; [[Blam|the ritual itself closely resembled discharging a bolter round directly into Isador's head at point-blank range]].

After the death of Isador, Gabe got his shit together and faced off against Sindri, now a daemon prince of Khorne (Much to Khorne's dismay, a sorcerer even offering tribute to him). He eventually succeeded in bashing Sindri's head into his spine and saving Tartarus from becoming a daemon world. His last act before leaving Tartarus was to smash the Maledictium with God-Splitter, [[Mordecai Toth|Inquisitor Mordecai Toth]]'s daemon hammer, even after the warnings of [[Macha]] that he'd doom everyone by doing it. In Just as Planned fashion, it did; rather than banishing the bound daemon (which given that God Splitter is an Daemonhammer built to kill daemons would be an expected out come), destroying the Maledictum freed it. Based on the daemon's endgame gloating monologue, all the "blood sacrifice" of wartime death (mostly Angelos's personal handiwork, including Orkamungus, Bale, and finally Sindri) had strengthened the daemon enough for it to escape the shattering intact. Gabriel then had to live with the fact that he was responsible for its freedom and would fight it if it should ever appear again.

==Gabe's role in DOWII==
In [[Dawn of War II]] Gabe is back, now a full-fledged hair-etic, with a bitchin' cape, his old Daemonhammer and several drop-pods of fuck you to share with the Tyranids. He's so awesome that his battle-cry makes everyone around him almost as awesome as he is, and so becomes invulnerable for a few seconds, and he can hit someone so hard that their motherfucking armour shatters. You only get to play him during the final mission in the original DoWII though.

==Gabe's role in Chaos Rising==
In the many battles that transpired during the Campaign of Chaos Rising, Gabriel Angelos stayed on the Litany of Fury and did very little apart from kill stealing in the final battle. His phoning it in this time made even more egregious since he wasn't stuck in the warp, lazy old codger that he is. This may be a clever ploy however to 'dispose' of a certain HAIRITIC, by sending him on suicide missions. He was also branded a traitorous heretic by Kyras (The Blood Raven' Schmuck Master and Chief Dick) through the Honor Guard leader Diomedes. However, depending on the Force Commander's actions, Diomedes can be persuaded to see that Kyras is a heretic or can simply be slain.

At the end of the game, Angelos made this speech;

"''Brothers, victory is ours! You have driven the Black Legion from the sector, and defeated the vile daemon who sought to consume us. But a more terrible battle yet remains, our chapter is in the hands of a madmen and a heretic, Kyras, he who should be the greatest of us, has bargained away his soul to the Powers of Chaos! While we, are branded as renegades and traitors, my brothers, this CANNOT, THIS -WILL NOT- STAND. (Insert Force Commander's fate here) LET NONE FIND US WANTING, BY CHAPTER AND EMPEROR."

The rest of the speech regarding the Force Commander and his men depends on how well you take care of not going to Chaos. Maintaining a high purity level leads you to becoming the Force of Retribution within the Chapter, partial Purity leads both you and Angelos to be declared Renegades by Kyras. Maintaining a neutral purity or slightly corrupted level means you are exiled to the Eye of Terror for at least a 100 years until you die or kill everyone. At half+ but not at full corruption, Angelos brutally kills you on the spot with his Thunder Hammer. At full corruption, Angelos swears to kill you for becoming a Chaos Lord. He can't do it there because you took your ship for a spin in the Eye of Terror.

==Gabe's role in DOWII Retribution==
[[Image:Rt sm gabriel 01.jpg|thumb|right|Gabriel in his most Awesome in Retribution]]
In Dawn of War II Retribution, Gabe gets his ass pwnd by Kyras, the previous chapter master who turned to the dark gods during Chaos Rising. After getting said ass pwnd (literally), he got smashed by Kyras' demon fists of fisting. He gets saved by [[Apollo Diomedes|Diomedes]] (the player) via spamming orbital bombardments on Kyras' face, thus proving that [[dakka]] > chaos.

Lastly, Gabriel comes back at the end of the game as the Chapter Master of the BLUHD REHVENS. So, lets make this perfectly clear to you: Thule gets cut up by a Warrior beast and has to be interred in a [[Dreadnought]] (because of poison). Angelos is crushed by the flaming fists of a Daemon Prince of Khorne. Chapter Master Angelos is now mostly bionics, which, when combined with his profound dedication to the Emperor and Imperium as a whole, makes him a kind of foil for [[Lugft Huron]]. Anyway, this may be explained by the fact that the aforementioned flaming fists were just flaming fists (in other words, sterile, though chaos infused) while the aforementioned Warrior Beast had all sorts of shit on it's claws '''THAT COULD MELT POWER ARMOR AND FLESH LIKE SOME REALLY STRONG ACID OR SOMETHING''', either that or his fucking AWESOMENESS or raw [[plot armor]] allowed him to live

<s>(Which begs the question how the fuck was he able to kill SIIINNDRIII the Daemon Prince back in DoW and come back one piece.. wut)</s> ''(Sindri merely tapped a small portion of the Daemon of the Maledictum's power, which while making him significantly more powerful than an ordinary daemon prince, does not hold a candle to Kyras becoming ONE with the Daemon of the Maledictum AND gaining enough favour through mass slaughter to ascend normally, making him quite likely the most powerful new daemon prince since the Daemon Primarchs)''

It is said that the retribution 'Epic end' is a combination of the Eldar, Imperial Guard and space marine endings, as well as parts of the Chaos Space Marine ending. [[Taldeer]]'s soul stone is rescued, the Blood Ravens purify their chapter, Castor gets the head of Kyras mounted in his already impressive trophy gallery, and Eliphas will regain his badassness and become a Daemon Prince.

He also has a sexy old man voice and several of the most broken (and awesome) abilities in the game. Though he is second to [[Eliphas]] in this regard, who, with a fully upgraded Sweeping Doom, can ROFLstomp an entire army with a single sweep.

==Old Gabe's return in DoW III==
[[Image:Gabriel-DoW3.jpg|thumb|600px|Angelos in DoW3 in his new shiny armor]]

For now we don't know much about Gabe's role in DoW III other than that [[Magnus the Red|he's lost his right eye]] and that he's confirmed as Chapter Master and he will be the commander of Space Marines and their Imperial Knights allies in the new story. It also appears he will be donning Tartaros (<s>or Cataphractii...nobody knows</s> its a heavily modified Tartaros, if you look at the chest section from behind its quite clear.) Terminator Armor (that somehow allows him to [[C.S. Goto| ninja flip into enemy formations while dropping Godsplitter on them like he was in fucking Cirque du Soleil]]) [[Blam|He also has a new voice actor...again.]]

He leads the Blood Ravens to the planet of Acheron, battling with the Eldar and Orks in a race for a powerful weapon known as "The Spear of Khaine". Gabe, however, desires not its power as he believes the Spear to be corrupted (and will corrupt any who wields it), and swears that no one will obtain the spear until his dying breath. He then has a heart-to-heart with Macha about smashing the Maledictum.

[[Wat|He then teams up with Gorgutz and Macha to defeat a bloodthirster. After the fight, he just... leaves them be. He doesn't try to kill them or anything, he just let's them fuck off,]] [[Grimdark|Because apparently Relic forgot what Warhammer is about.]]

==In books==
{{WTF}}
{{heresy}}
The [[C.S.Goto|Midget Goto]] wrote a series of DOW books (this pleased him) which were about Gabriel's adventures, but since this only provoked Nerd Rage from both fans and Redshirts alike, his stuff is not [[canon|CANON]]. Speaking of Novels, one apparently claims that Gabriel was an Imperial Guardsmen before becoming a Space Marine. This is bullshit of the highest order, as the biological implants of a Space Marine can only transplanted into candidates at a young age and many only join the ranks as full fledged battle brothers at something close to 18 (the only exception is the [[Angry Marines]]; their writefaggotry implies they can recruit from adults too, as well as, presumably, the Space Wolves because they only recruit from people who have already fought gloriously in battle and children don't really do very well with fighting). That means that Gabe must have been something between 8 - 13 when he became an infantryman in the Guard, which is impossible because the conscription age of the guard is usually 13 ([[Cadia]] notwithstanding), and they usually don't conscript unless they're under constant attack and are running out of trained guardsmen to throw at the enemy. Additionally, according to the Midget Goto, he's a 'symbol of hope to the Biel-Tan Eldar', despite the Biel-Tan being the most racist and xenocidal craftworld of all. He also had a thing with Macha which ended when she had to turn herself into some kind of green warpfire to stop the Necrons at Lorn V and disappeared from the story afterwards.

Dammit Goto! Just stick to putting multilazers on the multilazers on the multilazers. So that you can shoot multilazers while you shoot multilazers while you shoot multilazers. It might be retarded but it can be written off as an in-universe quirk of some idiot with a few spare multilazers lying around. [[Matt_Ward|Completely '''fucking up''' the fluff by re-writing the fundamental motivations and character of entire races]] can not be overlooked in the same way!

A more recent short story reveals what exactly happened on Cyrene- while there were no explicit signs of corruption present there at first glance, the planet was just about ready to launch a full rebellion against the Imperium; in light of the discovery that psykers were no longer being taken to the Black Ships and that trade with xenos was the norm, the Inquisition declared the situation to be grounds for Exterminatus. The one week of orbital bombardment was actually preceded by an all-out assault on the ground by the Blood Ravens and the Grey Knights, because apparently the Inquisition wanted to be absolutely sure nothing could possibly survive (that, or they were afraid killing too many psykers at once would cause bad things to happen). Gabe had hope he could save his father from the purge, but to his horror he learned that his father was one of the rebellion's leaders and had despised the Imperium ever since Gabriel had been chosen to become a Space Marine. With a heavy heart, Gabriel had no choice [[Grimdark|but to execute his own father]](<s>Doesn't this mean that Gabe is pretty young for a Space Marine? I mean, his father is still alive</s> You don't have to be a space marine to live for centuries as rejuvenate treatments for higher ranking Imperials like former officers). No wonder he refused to talk about what happened on Cyrene.

==On the Tabletop==
[[File:Gabriel-Angelos Mini.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Gabe has a Mini now! And you might want to convert a helmet onto it because by the Emperor did [[Forgeworld]] [[FAIL|fuck up his face.]]]]

Recently, [[Forge World]] has seen fit to grace the tabletop with Gabriel's presence, based on his Dawn of War III appearance; while his official statline isn't quite as cheesy as the fan-made version below, he's still a force to be reckoned with.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="left"
! || Pts || M || WS || BS || S || T || W || A || Ld || Sv
|-
| '''Gabriel Angelos:''' || 185 ||6" || 2+ || 3+ || 4 || 4 || 6 || 4 || 9 || 2+/4++
|} 
As you can tell, his BS is low for a named Space Marine character but that doesn't matter much since his only ranged weapons are grenades. Instead, he should be in melee at all times, ideally backed up by a squad of other Tartaros Terminators to take advantage of his higher-than normal movement compared to a standard Captain/Chapter Master in Terminator armor. His signature God-Splitter can be used in two modes: the standard mode acts like a basic Thunder Hammer but with the added ability to cause mortal wounds, while the Arcing Swing mode is a dedicated horde-killer that lowers its stats to +2S AP-1 1 D in order to give Gabe the ability to perform a number of attacks equal to the amount of units within 1" of him- and just as importantly, it lacks the -1 to hit that a Thunder Hammer would normally have. Between that and coming with the Chapter Master's ability to reroll failed hits, he's far better at fighting blobs than he looks. Finally, his Retribution rule give him one last "fuck you" to an enemy who removes his last wound in melee by letting him deal d3 mortal wounds to the model that took him out. He also has a little bit of added versatility when compared to other named Space Marine characters due to a quirk in the rules; as the Blood Ravens' primogenitor is unknown, Angelos doesn't need to be restricted to a Chapter-specific Warlord Trait like most named Space Marine characters and can use any of the available Chapter-specific Stratagems or Chapter Tactics. In fact he might be the best character you take.
As Master Artisans Salamanders tactic will allow him and army to reroll hits during the Assault and Shooting phases. While Anvil of Strength will allows [[God-Splitter to hit at Str10!|Anal_circumference]]. Iron Hands tactics, while not buffing his damage output will give the Magpies. It does improve their durability on a +6. However the real reason to choose Iron Hands is that it allows you to use Captain [[Smashfucker]] in the same army as Gabriel.

==Codex: Gabriel Angelos==
If you ever wanted to play a cheesy Captain/Chapter Master for fun based off of Gabe's DoW/DoW2 appearances, here's your statline.

{| border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" align="left"
! || Pts || WS || BS || S || T || W || I || A || Ld || Sv
|-
| '''Captain Gabriel Angelos:''' || 200 || 6 || 5 || 4 || 4 || 3 || 5 || 4 || 10 || 2+/4++
|-
| '''Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos:''' || 260 || 7 || 5 || 4 || 5 || 4 || 5 || 4 || 10 || 2+/4++
|} 

'''Chapter Master''': Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos possesses the rank of Chapter master, and as such, may be accompanied by an Honour Guard squad, in addition, he may call down a single orbital bombardment per game (see Codex: Space Marines).

'''Wargear''':
* '''Master Crafted Power Sword (Captain Only)''': Can be Swapped for Godsplitter for 10 pts.
* '''Godsplitter (Only weapon when as Chapter Master)''': Force Weapon that's Master crafted to be usable by those with Pi-Rho psyker levels
* '''Left Hand of Gabriel''': Is replaced when Gabriel chooses to take Godsplitter.
* '''Artificer Armour''': See Codex Space Marines.
* '''Reclamation of the Chapter (Chapter Master Only)'''
*'''Iron Halo''' (Captain only)
* '''Frag Grenades'''
* '''Krak Grenades'''

'''Special Rules''':
* '''Independent Character'''
* '''Eternal Warrior'''
* '''And They Shall Know No Fear'''
* '''Chapter Tactics (Blood Ravens)''': As per the rules for all Chapters who do not know their primogenitor Chapter, the Blood Ravens do not have a unique Chapter Tactic. Instead, the player can elect to "borrow" any existing Chapter Tactics from Codex: Space Marines and any Forge World supplements.
* '''Inspiring Presence''': Even before becoming Chapter Master, Gabriel was known for his uncommon leadership capabilities. All friendly units in a range of 18" can use Gabriel's Ld when testing for Morale, Pinning and Fear.
* '''My Foe Shall Fall!''': Gabriel has squared off in combat against some of the most terrifying and powerful foes the Blood Ravens have faced in recent centuries, including colossal Daemons and Tyranid Bio-terrors. Gabriel's close-combat attacks against Monstrous Creatures gain a +1 to I.
* '''My Faith is My Shield! (Chapter Master Only)''': Despite the heresy and treachery that has plagued the Blood Ravens in recent years, Gabriel has never wavered from his faith and maintained absolute loyalty to the Emperor. In combat Gabriel channels his purity through the hallowed wards inscribed into his blessed armour. Once per game, Gabriel may give himself a 2++ Invulnerable save for the duration of a single combat phase, regardless of whether it is yours or your opponent's.
* '''Cybernetic Enhancements (Chapter Master Only)''': After his battle with Kyras much of Gabriel's body had to be rebuilt with so much cybernetics that he would put [[Marneus Calgar]] to shame. As a result he is more resilient than before. This grants him +1 Toughness (already included in profile).
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* '''Godsplitter''': God-Splitter is a powerful Daemonhammer gifted to Gabriel Angelos of the Blood Ravens 3rd Company by Inquisitor Mordecai Toth on the planet Tartarus to combat the Daemon of the Maledictum. Just like every Daemonhammer, Godsplitter strikes with the speed of a lightning bolt. Unlike every Daemonhammer, this weapon strikes with an even greater and truly terrifying power.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name !! Range !! Strength !! AP !! Type
|-
| '''Godsplitter''' || - || 10 || 1 || Melee, Two-Handed, Master Crafted, Concussive, Strikedown, Anathemic Presence
|}

** '''Anathemic Presence''': Attacks from this weapon force units with the Daemon USR to re-roll all successful saves granted by that rule.

* '''Left Hand of Gabriel''': Blood Ravens Captain Gabriel Angelos used this pistol to slay the traitor Isador Akios, once his closest friend. Angelos discarded the weapon in disgust at the Ruinous Powers and the taint they bring to Man. His battle brothers recovered the weapon and returned it to the chapter armory.

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name !! Range !! Strength !! AP !! Type
|-
| '''Left Hand of Gabriel''' || 12 || 4 || 3 || Pistol, Master Crafted, Precision Shots
|}

* '''Reclamation of the Chapter (Chapter Master Only)''': This suit of Tartaros Terminator armour was granted for Angelos by the Chapter's Techmarines to honour his ascension to Chapter Master and is designed around his extensive bionics. It has also been inscribed and blessed by the Chapter's Chaplains to signify his victory over the forces of heresy. This is Tartaros Terminator armor that infers the 'My Faith is my Shield' special rule.

== External Links: ==
*[http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=246133 Gabriel Angelos can now be played online via mod]

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Thunder Warriors

2018-01-06T20:51:37Z

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[[File:Thunder_warriors.jpg|200px|thumb|right|I'm better than any of you [[Space Marines|bitches]]...if only I could live longer. (P.S. the man in the picture is not an actual thunder warrior, he just stole the armor from a copy of one.)]]
The '''Thunder Warriors''' were the first soldiers of the man who eventually became the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emperor of Mankind]]. In many ways, they were the precursors to the [[Space Marines]].

==Origins==
They were formed toward the end of the [[Age of Strife]], when the Emperor judged that it was the right time to make his presence known. He needed some advantage over the warlords, barbarians, and other would-be world rulers, and so he created twenty regiments consisting of hundreds of genetically enhanced soldiers wearing simple powered armor. Because the Emperor's symbol at the time was a thunderbolt, and this symbol was prominently displayed on the chestplate of the armor, the armor came to be known as [[Power Armour#Mark I: Thunder Armour|Thunder Armor]] and the warriors who wore said armor were called Thunder Warriors.

The Thunder Warriors were devastatingly effective and quickly became icons of the Emperor's armies; just the threat of the Thunder Warriors' arrival could convince a warlord to surrender, and those who refused quickly learned that the Thunder Warriors' reputation was not exaggerated. According to the fluff, they were even more physically powerful and ruthless than the Space Marines. But NOT more so than the Custodes. However, this said, according to the novella ''The Last Church'', a massed Thunder Warrior formation could shoot all at once, and create a noise 'like a thunderstorm had suddenly sprung into existence', and mow down four or five men at once in that opening salvo. So yeah, make of that what you will.

And yet, for all their successes, the Thunder Warriors were not perfect; because the Emperor was busy running the Unification Wars, fending off attacks from his neighboring warlords, and lacking the resources and expertise of [[Mars]], he and the few scientists he had working for him were forced to cut corners, and so the Thunder Warriors were all unstable in one way or another. None of them could be counted on to last long, as either their minds or bodies gave out at unpredictable intervals, and there wasn't yet the technology available to give them a lifespan longer than the average human's. This was suitable for fighting the barbarian [[human]] armies of the [[Age of Strife]], but not for the long, star-spanning campaign of the [[Great Crusade]] that the Emperor set as his next goal, so as soon as he had enough territory to set up a secure laboratory and enough scientists to man it, he set to work on the next generation of warriors: the [[Primarch]]s. Some of their defects were intentional, as the harsh conditions of Terra meant that they were psychopaths that the Emperor did not want to use forever. .

===Eventual Fate===
The Thunder Warriors were not what He [[Humanity Fuck Yeah|envisioned]] as the defenders of humanity, they were blunt tools of destruction and little else, far inferior to the bespoken Custodians that accompanied them. It is very important to note that the Astartes were already in circulation before the Thunder Warriors were "retired", the [[Dark Angels|First Legion]] had already been established and Proto-Legions all the way up to the [[Salamanders|XVIIIth]] were seeing active combat. The Emperor saw no great loss in removing them for good now that they were obsolete. The Imperial records indicate that the last of the Thunder Warriors all perished at the '''Battle of Mount Ararat''', which is strongly believed to be a cover story. Though the details are scarce, the battle did actually happen and there were survivors, hinting at a possible betrayal and a cull instigated by the Custodians.

However, contrary to this popular viewpoint, the retirement of the Thunder Warriors may not have been a betrayal and perhaps something less dickish. The Thunder Warriors leader: '''Arik Taranis''' is vague on the details and admits he holds no ill will towards the Emperor for what he did. Another survivor: '''Dahren Heruk''' still considers himself loyal to the Emperor and holds to his pre-unity oaths. More interestingly, when Heruk rescues a Custodian from a group of Alpha Legion hiding on Terra, the surprised Custodian thanks him and seems prepared to leave him where he is, at least until Heruk halts him to request and be granted an "honoured death" (basically a mercy kill with a blade through the heart). Like Arik and Ghota, Heruk's group of Thunder Warriors are all failing physically, filled with cancer, and required to undergo regular organ transplantation just to stay alive; and are failing mentally, wracked with hallucinations of the Unity Wars like soldiers with PTSD. It may be that the last of the Thunder Warriors went willingly to their ends at Mount Ararat at the very height of their eminence, knowing that they could go no further than that. The alternative being eventual madness and inevitable biological collapse, coupled with being rendered obsolete in the shadow of the newly rising Astartes; Heruk remembers the battle of Mount Ararat to have been glorious, and he and his companions all believe that they have simply [[Death Korps of Krieg|''lived too long'']].

[[File:Thunder Warrior Model.jpg|200px|thumb|left|If only GW bothered to re-make the model like they did with the Space Marines... It seems big E wasn't the only one who abandoned them.]]

The so-called "cull" wasn't the end of the Thunder Warriors, enough of them managed to escape and spread throughout the Imperium. During the [[Great Crusade]], there was an insurrection on the asteroid prison colony of Cerberus. Though the Thunder Warriors ''were not'' the only members of the rebellion, there were enough of them to form a group calling themselves the '''Dait'Tar'''. The Emperor did not like that and sent an army of [[World Eaters|War Hounds]] to crush the prison riot with impunity. The Astartes having gotten bored with maiming and killing prisoners not worthy of their challenge, found themselves some Thunder Warriors grouping up in a defensive position. Instead of just showering bullets on the surviving Warriors like a <s>more sensible</s> less manly Legion might have, the War Hounds rushed in and engaged them in close combat. But Thunder Warriors are basically mini-[[Primarchs]] without the immortality, and were able to claim three to four Marine kills in melee for each Warrior that went down. After five hours of carnage and RAEG of old vs. new, the [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Army]] forces waiting in orbit got bored and decided to join the party, but the party was already done and left nothing but Thunder Warrior corpses, lots of War Hound corpses, and lots and lots of regular prisoner corpses cut down apparently trying to escape the melee.

Others descended into the Underworld of Terra, taking roles amongst the criminal element or eking out a life as Gladiators. One group managed to steal an Astartes progenoid gland to extend their lifespans, and went into hiding, so far not to been seen again.

==Capabilities==
It is generally accepted that Thunder Warriors fall somewhere between Astartes and Custodes on the scale of who-beats-who. Though their exact capabilities are not covered in any great detail.

During the Unification Wars, every Warlord and his dog had access to some form of advanced technology, whether through cyber-augmentation, bio-alchemical processes or genetic tampering, the Thunder Warrior was supposed to superior to all of them. Claiming "unparalleled superhuman physical power, gene-programmed resistance to environment" and most notably: resistance to "psychic attack".

This last one is particularly notable, since while his Custodians and Astartes are possessed of some impressive willpower and determination, as well as a lot of hypno-indoctrinated mental safeguards, they seem to be no more or less able to resist psykers than any other human. What's more is that we can possibly narrow this down even further and credit it to the Emperor directly, rather than any form of genetic/biological upgrade. [[Fallen Angels|Merir Astelan]] and the [[Dark Angels|first 5000 Space Marines]] all had similar psychic wards build into their minds granted from the Emperor himself, manifesting as a golden aura that seems to make psychic compulsions have no affect on them, and giving telepaths headaches for trying to read them. This is probably why the later Astartes don't share this capability, as the Emperor probably didn't have the time to mind-lock every soldier under his command.

In any case, a few things are clear: while they do have additional organs (seeing as they had to harvest organs from their own dead rather than from normal humans to prolong their lives), they don't have a Black Carapace; the original Mk. 1 Thunder Armour was not designed to function with one, so Thunder Warriors wore their heavy armour like any mortal would, rather than interfacing with it like a second skin. They also don't have a Betcher's Gland; one of Dahren Heruk's companions, Vezula Vult, forgot about this when he tangled with a group of Alpha Legionnaires in the slums of Terra, getting sizzled in the face by acid because he wasn't paying attention. Thirdly, they don't have a secondary heart as seen with their tradition of "Honoured Deaths" with fellow warriors mercy killing mortally wounded comrades with a blade through the heart. Fourthly, and probably most importantly, they don't have a Progenoid Gland, which for Space Marine is the ''eau de Astartes'', making them everything that they are, managing their physiologies from day to day as well as providing the means to make more of them.

However, that the Thunder Warriors are physically superior to Astartes is not really in doubt, with each conflict in the fluff between them generally resulting in it taking several Astartes just to bring down a single Thunder Warrior, and even in these reported situations, the Thunder Warriors in question are long past their physical prime and are undoubtedly in the throes of genetic degredation, so who knows that they might have been capable of at the peak of their power. They might have been directly comparable to Custodians, who knows?

Ironically, if He had made a few more regiments, or at least kept the survivors, He may well have defeated the Machine Cult on Mars (who are behind everything and needed to die) and all the grimdark the Imperium now deals with would be at a minimum instead of up to eleven. [[Just as planned|Hindsight is twenty-twenty]].

===Armaments===
While not outright stated. It is rather easy to guess the weapons that Thunder Warriors used by examining the armories of the [[Dark_Angels#Cool_Shit|Dark Angels]], the [[Adeptus Custodes]] and even the [[Mechanicum]]. Rad/Irad Weapons were likely more common than they were in the [[Legion Astartes]]. So it's likely they had access to [[Plasma Weapons]], Molecular Acid Boltshells, Stasis Grenades & Missiles, Phosphex Incinerators, [[Photon_Thruster_Weapon|Photon Thrusters]], [[Lastrum Bolters]], [[Adrathic Weapons]], Warp and [[Vortex weapons]]. Volkites were also most likely stranded issue. Since Thunder Warriors did not have proper Powered Armor their successors. [[GrimDark|They likely had little to no protection from the deadly effects of their own weapons]]

== Arik Taranis ==

The first badass granddaddy of all Space Marines and Thunder Warriors who would make Girlyman and Dante envious for his existence. He was known to win lots and lots of battles for the Emperor, survive dozens of suicidal fights in which countless Thunder Warriors (who are stronger than space marines) would die, especially the last battle in which he barely made it to victory with his comrade. The Emperor, knowing the Thunder Warrior's limited lifespan would not serve any good for his [[Great Crusade|future conquest]], decided to abandon the Thunder Warriors by arranging an utter betrayal with Arik that would make Horus look like a saint. [[Grimdark|As a result, Arik was forced witness the killing pretty much all his surviving comrades while according to the record, it would be reported that Arik and the Thunder Warriors had been honorably slain during the last battle]]. Despite the betrayal, Arik had no sense of hatred towards the Emperor, for he knew that Thunder Warriors would only serve as an impediment to their [[Space Marines|future cousins]].

Anyway, Arik would later hide among Terra's population with his large, obvious body and become the Kingpin of Terra. He started out in the Petitioner's City of the Imperial Palace, gang raping his way up the food chain with his only remaining Thunder Warrior buddy, Ghota (who, as described in The Outcast Dead, is an overgrown, cantankerous motherfucker with eyes like the rage zombies from 28 Days Later, apparently a side effect of the Thunder Warriors' painful physical degradation) and at least thirty other survivors, until he was effectively the big cheese of gangsters. Calling himself Babu Dhakal (or at least everyone else called him that... the man was crazy, but he wasn't crazy enough to address himself in the third person), Arik expanded his control until it encompassed [[Drugs]], bitches, gambling, weapons, and even toilets--the absolute madman! He would go on to control criminals and heretics alike, causing the Adeptus Arbites to rage quit because they couldn't handle Arik's near swaglord level reputation and rampant (to the point of being fucking psycho) badassery.

Fortunes came to him when he found a secret lab buried within Terra and finding the lab is about as common as finding a buried starship on post apocalyptic era on Terra however. This, coupled with the scientific knowledge he somehow got from the Emperor, would help him to genetically modify and increase his life span (but not really enough to keep him alive -- until the Horus Heresy came around).

=== The Outcast Dead incident ===
When heresy first became a thing that happened in the Imperium, Arik managed to get a functioning Progenoid Gland from one of the outcast dead space marines (it's unclear which one, but they probably didn't mind too much--being outcast and dead and all). He was able to extract at least some of the information he needed to replicate the gland, and was then able to plant a functioning copy he had created within his own body, as well as Ghota's. Since GW never expanded their storyline, we can assume that either they have successfully outlived the Emperor and become more rapey, pillagey, and space piratey than the Dark Eldar, or that the result of all their careful work was that they up and turned into uber powerful heroes of the Imperium... we have no idea. They may have just settled down on Terra.

Considering that Arik had no problem with the Emperor disposing of the Thunder Warriors (likely viewing himself as a willing tool for the Emperor anyway), that he now has a progenoid implanted, and the physical capabilities of Thunder Warriors, it might be possible that Arik founded the [[Sons of Antaeus]] and other chapters during the cursed 21 founding. Especially if the progenoid's phsyical enhancement abilities repaired his body and if he acquired Space Marine psyho-indoctrination technology. This would readily explain everything about the Sons of Antaeus from their size, strength, and durability to their distant attitude and reluctance to communicate with other Imperial forces. Getting ships and wargear would have been easy since the High Lords likely revere the Thunder Warriors like everyone else.

=== Arik Taranis Facts ===
Despite being outdated and retired, Arik has demonstrated some epic Primarch-level shits:

*He knocked down the "Azurite Tower" during the Unification Wars, as well as earning tons of fucking countless titles.
*He survived the deadly last battle that nearly wiped out his army, meaning he gets shit done even if it almost killed him.
*His Thunder Warrior subordinate Ghota can fight 5 elite Astartes to a stalemate even killing one of them, yet Ghota bows to Arik. Let guesses hop at how OP Arik is.
*Arik decoded the gene-seed within some dirty drug lab, which something only the Emperor is capable of out of every living thing in the galaxy. He could probably be the greatest Apothecary in the Imperium, next to The Emperor and Eldar goddess [[Isha]] (and [[Fabius Bile|Apothecary Fabius]] if he hadn't turned [[heresy|bad]]).
*Atharva, one of the outcast dead and a powerful Thousand Sons psyker observed Arik and commented that he has an: "aura too bright to look upon. His presence had a gravity all it's own, demanding all attention and fear." and he "could barely stand to turn his psychic senses on him for fear of being overwhelmed.". Keep in mind only the Emperor and the Primarchs has that kind of aura, yet Arik, a Thunder Warrior has that kind of aura surrounding him.
*He is named after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taranis| Taranis], the Celtic god of... [[Just as Planned|thunder]]. So yeah, the guy is literally a god-tier (thunder) warrior.
*also while it is not confirmed this random anon could see him possibly being involved with the creation of the primaris marines which are basically are half way to being thunder warriors

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[[Category:Imperial]]
[[Category:Space Marines]]

Thunder Warriors

2018-01-06T20:49:44Z

2601:147:4200:6280:F1E3:387E:1E87:EE7D: /* Capabilities */

[[File:Thunder_warriors.jpg|200px|thumb|right|I'm better than any of you [[Space Marines|bitches]]...if only I could live longer. (P.S. the man in the picture is not an actual thunder warrior, he just stole the armor from a copy of one.)]]
The '''Thunder Warriors''' were the first soldiers of the man who eventually became the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emperor of Mankind]]. In many ways, they were the precursors to the [[Space Marines]].

==Origins==
They were formed toward the end of the [[Age of Strife]], when the Emperor judged that it was the right time to make his presence known. He needed some advantage over the warlords, barbarians, and other would-be world rulers, and so he created twenty regiments consisting of hundreds of genetically enhanced soldiers wearing simple powered armor. Because the Emperor's symbol at the time was a thunderbolt, and this symbol was prominently displayed on the chestplate of the armor, the armor came to be known as [[Power Armour#Mark I: Thunder Armour|Thunder Armor]] and the warriors who wore said armor were called Thunder Warriors.

The Thunder Warriors were devastatingly effective and quickly became icons of the Emperor's armies; just the threat of the Thunder Warriors' arrival could convince a warlord to surrender, and those who refused quickly learned that the Thunder Warriors' reputation was not exaggerated. According to the fluff, they were even more physically powerful and ruthless than the Space Marines. But NOT more so than the Custodes. However, this said, according to the novella ''The Last Church'', a massed Thunder Warrior formation could shoot all at once, and create a noise 'like a thunderstorm had suddenly sprung into existence', and mow down four or five men at once in that opening salvo. So yeah, make of that what you will.

And yet, for all their successes, the Thunder Warriors were not perfect; because the Emperor was busy running the Unification Wars, fending off attacks from his neighboring warlords, and lacking the resources and expertise of [[Mars]], he and the few scientists he had working for him were forced to cut corners, and so the Thunder Warriors were all unstable in one way or another. None of them could be counted on to last long, as either their minds or bodies gave out at unpredictable intervals, and there wasn't yet the technology available to give them a lifespan longer than the average human's. This was suitable for fighting the barbarian [[human]] armies of the [[Age of Strife]], but not for the long, star-spanning campaign of the [[Great Crusade]] that the Emperor set as his next goal, so as soon as he had enough territory to set up a secure laboratory and enough scientists to man it, he set to work on the next generation of warriors: the [[Primarch]]s. Some of their defects were intentional, as the harsh conditions of Terra meant that they were psychopaths that the Emperor did not want to use forever. .

===Eventual Fate===
The Thunder Warriors were not what He [[Humanity Fuck Yeah|envisioned]] as the defenders of humanity, they were blunt tools of destruction and little else, far inferior to the bespoken Custodians that accompanied them. It is very important to note that the Astartes were already in circulation before the Thunder Warriors were "retired", the [[Dark Angels|First Legion]] had already been established and Proto-Legions all the way up to the [[Salamanders|XVIIIth]] were seeing active combat. The Emperor saw no great loss in removing them for good now that they were obsolete. The Imperial records indicate that the last of the Thunder Warriors all perished at the '''Battle of Mount Ararat''', which is strongly believed to be a cover story. Though the details are scarce, the battle did actually happen and there were survivors, hinting at a possible betrayal and a cull instigated by the Custodians.

However, contrary to this popular viewpoint, the retirement of the Thunder Warriors may not have been a betrayal and perhaps something less dickish. The Thunder Warriors leader: '''Arik Taranis''' is vague on the details and admits he holds no ill will towards the Emperor for what he did. Another survivor: '''Dahren Heruk''' still considers himself loyal to the Emperor and holds to his pre-unity oaths. More interestingly, when Heruk rescues a Custodian from a group of Alpha Legion hiding on Terra, the surprised Custodian thanks him and seems prepared to leave him where he is, at least until Heruk halts him to request and be granted an "honoured death" (basically a mercy kill with a blade through the heart). Like Arik and Ghota, Heruk's group of Thunder Warriors are all failing physically, filled with cancer, and required to undergo regular organ transplantation just to stay alive; and are failing mentally, wracked with hallucinations of the Unity Wars like soldiers with PTSD. It may be that the last of the Thunder Warriors went willingly to their ends at Mount Ararat at the very height of their eminence, knowing that they could go no further than that. The alternative being eventual madness and inevitable biological collapse, coupled with being rendered obsolete in the shadow of the newly rising Astartes; Heruk remembers the battle of Mount Ararat to have been glorious, and he and his companions all believe that they have simply [[Death Korps of Krieg|''lived too long'']].

[[File:Thunder Warrior Model.jpg|200px|thumb|left|If only GW bothered to re-make the model like they did with the Space Marines... It seems big E wasn't the only one who abandoned them.]]

The so-called "cull" wasn't the end of the Thunder Warriors, enough of them managed to escape and spread throughout the Imperium. During the [[Great Crusade]], there was an insurrection on the asteroid prison colony of Cerberus. Though the Thunder Warriors ''were not'' the only members of the rebellion, there were enough of them to form a group calling themselves the '''Dait'Tar'''. The Emperor did not like that and sent an army of [[World Eaters|War Hounds]] to crush the prison riot with impunity. The Astartes having gotten bored with maiming and killing prisoners not worthy of their challenge, found themselves some Thunder Warriors grouping up in a defensive position. Instead of just showering bullets on the surviving Warriors like a <s>more sensible</s> less manly Legion might have, the War Hounds rushed in and engaged them in close combat. But Thunder Warriors are basically mini-[[Primarchs]] without the immortality, and were able to claim three to four Marine kills in melee for each Warrior that went down. After five hours of carnage and RAEG of old vs. new, the [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Army]] forces waiting in orbit got bored and decided to join the party, but the party was already done and left nothing but Thunder Warrior corpses, lots of War Hound corpses, and lots and lots of regular prisoner corpses cut down apparently trying to escape the melee.

Others descended into the Underworld of Terra, taking roles amongst the criminal element or eking out a life as Gladiators. One group managed to steal an Astartes progenoid gland to extend their lifespans, and went into hiding, so far not to been seen again.

==Capabilities==
It is generally accepted that Thunder Warriors fall somewhere between Astartes and Custodes on the scale of who-beats-who. Though their exact capabilities are not covered in any great detail.

During the Unification Wars, every Warlord and his dog had access to some form of advanced technology, whether through cyber-augmentation, bio-alchemical processes or genetic tampering, the Thunder Warrior was supposed to superior to all of them. Claiming "unparalleled superhuman physical power, gene-programmed resistance to environment" and most notably: resistance to "psychic attack".

This last one is particularly notable, since while his Custodians and Astartes are possessed of some impressive willpower and determination, as well as a lot of hypno-indoctrinated mental safeguards, they seem to be no more or less able to resist psykers than any other human. What's more is that we can possibly narrow this down even further and credit it to the Emperor directly, rather than any form of genetic/biological upgrade. [[Fallen Angels|Merir Astelan]] and the [[Dark Angels|first 5000 Space Marines]] all had similar psychic wards build into their minds granted from the Emperor himself, manifesting as a golden aura that seems to make psychic compulsions have no affect on them, and giving telepaths headaches for trying to read them. This is probably why the later Astartes don't share this capability, as the Emperor probably didn't have the time to mind-lock every soldier under his command.

In any case, a few things are clear: while they do have additional organs (seeing as they had to harvest organs from their own dead rather than from normal humans to prolong their lives), they don't have a Black Carapace; the original Mk. 1 Thunder Armour was not designed to function with one, so Thunder Warriors wore their heavy armour like any mortal would, rather than interfacing with it like a second skin. They also don't have a Betcher's Gland; one of Dahren Heruk's companions, Vezula Vult, forgot about this when he tangled with a group of Alpha Legionnaires in the slums of Terra, getting sizzled in the face by acid because he wasn't paying attention. Thirdly, they don't have a secondary heart as seen with their tradition of "Honoured Deaths" with fellow warriors mercy killing mortally wounded comrades with a blade through the heart. Fourthly, and probably most importantly, they don't have a Progenoid Gland, which for Space Marine is the ''eau de Astartes'', making them everything that they are, managing their physiologies from day to day as well as providing the means to make more of them.

However, that the Thunder Warriors are physically superior to Astartes is not really in doubt, with each conflict in the fluff between them generally resulting in it taking several Astartes just to bring down a single Thunder Warrior, and even in these reported situations, the Thunder Warriors in question are long past their physical prime and are undoubtedly in the throes of genetic degredation, so who knows that they might have been capable of at the peak of their power. They might have been directly comparable to Custodians, who knows?

Ironically, if He had made a few more regiments, or at least kept the survivors, He may well have defeated the Machine Cult on Mars (who are behind everything and needed to die) and all the grimdark the Imperium now deals with would be at a minimum instead of up to eleven. [[Just as planned|Hindsight is twenty-twenty]].

===Armaments===
While not outright stated. It is rather easy to guess the weapons that Thunder Warriors used by examining the armories of the [[Dark_Angels#Cool_Shit|Dark Angels]], the [[Adeptus Custodes]] and even the [[Mechanicum]]. Rad/Irad Weapons were likely more common than they were in the [[Legion Astartes]]. So it's likely they had access to [[Plasma Weapons]], Molecular Acid Boltshells, Stasis Grenades & Missiles, Phosphex Incinerators, [[Photon Thrusters]], [[Lastrum Bolters]], [[Adrathic Weapons]], Warp and [[Vortex weapons]]. Volkites were also most likely stranded issue. Since Thunder Warriors did not have proper Powered Armor their successors. [[GrimDark|They likely had little to no protection from the deadly effects of their own weapons]]

== Arik Taranis ==

The first badass granddaddy of all Space Marines and Thunder Warriors who would make Girlyman and Dante envious for his existence. He was known to win lots and lots of battles for the Emperor, survive dozens of suicidal fights in which countless Thunder Warriors (who are stronger than space marines) would die, especially the last battle in which he barely made it to victory with his comrade. The Emperor, knowing the Thunder Warrior's limited lifespan would not serve any good for his [[Great Crusade|future conquest]], decided to abandon the Thunder Warriors by arranging an utter betrayal with Arik that would make Horus look like a saint. [[Grimdark|As a result, Arik was forced witness the killing pretty much all his surviving comrades while according to the record, it would be reported that Arik and the Thunder Warriors had been honorably slain during the last battle]]. Despite the betrayal, Arik had no sense of hatred towards the Emperor, for he knew that Thunder Warriors would only serve as an impediment to their [[Space Marines|future cousins]].

Anyway, Arik would later hide among Terra's population with his large, obvious body and become the Kingpin of Terra. He started out in the Petitioner's City of the Imperial Palace, gang raping his way up the food chain with his only remaining Thunder Warrior buddy, Ghota (who, as described in The Outcast Dead, is an overgrown, cantankerous motherfucker with eyes like the rage zombies from 28 Days Later, apparently a side effect of the Thunder Warriors' painful physical degradation) and at least thirty other survivors, until he was effectively the big cheese of gangsters. Calling himself Babu Dhakal (or at least everyone else called him that... the man was crazy, but he wasn't crazy enough to address himself in the third person), Arik expanded his control until it encompassed [[Drugs]], bitches, gambling, weapons, and even toilets--the absolute madman! He would go on to control criminals and heretics alike, causing the Adeptus Arbites to rage quit because they couldn't handle Arik's near swaglord level reputation and rampant (to the point of being fucking psycho) badassery.

Fortunes came to him when he found a secret lab buried within Terra and finding the lab is about as common as finding a buried starship on post apocalyptic era on Terra however. This, coupled with the scientific knowledge he somehow got from the Emperor, would help him to genetically modify and increase his life span (but not really enough to keep him alive -- until the Horus Heresy came around).

=== The Outcast Dead incident ===
When heresy first became a thing that happened in the Imperium, Arik managed to get a functioning Progenoid Gland from one of the outcast dead space marines (it's unclear which one, but they probably didn't mind too much--being outcast and dead and all). He was able to extract at least some of the information he needed to replicate the gland, and was then able to plant a functioning copy he had created within his own body, as well as Ghota's. Since GW never expanded their storyline, we can assume that either they have successfully outlived the Emperor and become more rapey, pillagey, and space piratey than the Dark Eldar, or that the result of all their careful work was that they up and turned into uber powerful heroes of the Imperium... we have no idea. They may have just settled down on Terra.

Considering that Arik had no problem with the Emperor disposing of the Thunder Warriors (likely viewing himself as a willing tool for the Emperor anyway), that he now has a progenoid implanted, and the physical capabilities of Thunder Warriors, it might be possible that Arik founded the [[Sons of Antaeus]] and other chapters during the cursed 21 founding. Especially if the progenoid's phsyical enhancement abilities repaired his body and if he acquired Space Marine psyho-indoctrination technology. This would readily explain everything about the Sons of Antaeus from their size, strength, and durability to their distant attitude and reluctance to communicate with other Imperial forces. Getting ships and wargear would have been easy since the High Lords likely revere the Thunder Warriors like everyone else.

=== Arik Taranis Facts ===
Despite being outdated and retired, Arik has demonstrated some epic Primarch-level shits:

*He knocked down the "Azurite Tower" during the Unification Wars, as well as earning tons of fucking countless titles.
*He survived the deadly last battle that nearly wiped out his army, meaning he gets shit done even if it almost killed him.
*His Thunder Warrior subordinate Ghota can fight 5 elite Astartes to a stalemate even killing one of them, yet Ghota bows to Arik. Let guesses hop at how OP Arik is.
*Arik decoded the gene-seed within some dirty drug lab, which something only the Emperor is capable of out of every living thing in the galaxy. He could probably be the greatest Apothecary in the Imperium, next to The Emperor and Eldar goddess [[Isha]] (and [[Fabius Bile|Apothecary Fabius]] if he hadn't turned [[heresy|bad]]).
*Atharva, one of the outcast dead and a powerful Thousand Sons psyker observed Arik and commented that he has an: "aura too bright to look upon. His presence had a gravity all it's own, demanding all attention and fear." and he "could barely stand to turn his psychic senses on him for fear of being overwhelmed.". Keep in mind only the Emperor and the Primarchs has that kind of aura, yet Arik, a Thunder Warrior has that kind of aura surrounding him.
*He is named after [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taranis| Taranis], the Celtic god of... [[Just as Planned|thunder]]. So yeah, the guy is literally a god-tier (thunder) warrior.
*also while it is not confirmed this random anon could see him possibly being involved with the creation of the primaris marines which are basically are half way to being thunder warriors

[[Category:Warhammer 40,000]]
[[Category:Imperial]]
[[Category:Space Marines]]

Primaris Space Marines

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[[File:New40KPrimarisArt1.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Look out Chaos, there's a new kid on the block.]]
{{Topquote|They were forged for Mankind's darkest hour, and that hour is upon us.|[[Roboute Guilliman]]}}
{{Topquote|In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light.|Unnamed Primaris Officer}}
{{Topquote|Today, we are canceling the apocalypse!|Marshal Stacker Pentecost, from the movie Pacific Rim}}

Primaris Marines (also known as Ultra-Ultramarines, Space Space Marines, Primarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Gigglymarines, Super Space Marines, Biglymarines, Space-marine Space-marine Space-Marines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, [[Stormcast Eternals|Spacesigmarines]], Guillimarines, Special Snowflake Marines, [[Mary Sue|Primarysues]], Primacucks, Ultra-Ultrasmurfs, Marines II: Electric Boogaloo, the Replacements and the New Kids) are the next step forward in Space Marine evolution (not counting the [[Raptor]] supermarines by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood). [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, faster, stronger, and maybe smarter than all that have come before them. Buckle up boys, its about to get hot in here.

==History and Background==
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against ''hundreds of thousands'' CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least.

Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]], our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch's [[/d/|genetic material]] that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.

Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman's plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival, Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.

In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters.

However, in the Black Library novel "Dark Imperium", Guilliman calls Primarises "Cawl's blasphemous hordes". So much for daddy's love, eh?

==New Stuff==
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it's the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it's got that sweet Maximus style vox grill. As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don't talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]]. As of 8E, this translates to +1T. Shiny.
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking, with <strike>crocs, capris, and</strike> skull-faced helmets.
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a "perfected" version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - 30" Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP-1 D1 - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new "Special Issue Boltgun" Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.
**At least two variants of Bolt Rifle exist- the Auto Bolt Rifle, which has lower AP but is better suited for longer ranges due to being Assault 2, and the Stalker Bolt Rifle, a Heavy 1 sniper variant with superior range and one extra point of AP.
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don't have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 20.
**The new organs are:
***'''Sinew Coils''', which turn the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay, we may be joking here, but it's basically metallic coils wrapped around the Marine's tendons and ligaments that can contract with extreme force.
****This is particularly interesting, as it's not actually a living organ, and hence is presumably not developed from gene-seed at all.
***'''The Magnificat''', which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the '''Immortis Gland''' intended for Primarchs, though the information needed to complete it is lost), as well as producing additional growth hormone.
***'''Belisarian Furnace''' (because Cawl gets a robo-boner for naming things after himself), essentially a 'last-stand' organ, which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration. This presumably explains the additional Wound they have.

==Potential Problems==
*While Primaris Marines are created from the gene-seed of all the Loyalist Primarchs, it is unknown how some of the more extreme genetic quirks of each bloodline will manifest in them. We could see anything from [[Blood Angels]] with cute little Cupid wings, to [[Flesh Tearers]] with terrifying vampire fangs, to transparent [[Raven Guard]], to even blacker [[Salamanders]], to [[Lamenters]] with greying temples and bags under their eyes (for a true "too old for this shit" attitude), to [[Black Dragons]] that look like a metal hedgehog with giant, adamantium coated bone spines and [[Space Wolves]] [[Fur Heresy|with fluffy little tails]]. But then again there's NO reason to actually expect the new modifications to worsen their genetic quirks. They're marines with new enhancements, not marines with a double dose of gene-seed or anything. It's probably somewhat more likely to strengthen their resistance to their quirks if anything. It's all up to whatever GeeDubs wants to do though, [[just as planned|so anything is possible]].
**According to Cawl, the Primaris gene-seed is actually even more stable than the standard version, with an estimated deviancy of .001% per generation. So far, it's at least been stable enough to create a Space Wolves successor that hasn't immediately devolved into Wulfen.
***It's unknown how stable normal marines who have been "upgraded" are, however.
*** The new Blood Angels codex confirms that they do suffer from the Red Thirst, but have more control over it than their counterparts. No Primaris Blood Angel has succumbed to the Black Rage...but whether they're actually immune to it is unknown.
**Robbie MacNiven, writer of the Carcharodons novel Red Tithe, has revealed that everyone's favorite space sharks WILL be receiving their own Primaris Marines, adding to the above interest in Chapter-specific quirks among Primaris. PRAISE THE FORGOTTEN ONE.
*In terms of actual combat experience, these guys are jumping into the deep end as green as an ork's asscrack. They may be bigger, stronger, faster, and have better armor and weapons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the marines they are reinforcing are their seniors by centuries, not even mentioning the battle experience of Chaos Marines. Well maybe yes/no: [[skub|The Dark Imperium novel says that the first batch of Primaris Marines are actually augmented space marines from the days after the Horus Heresy put into stasis and are constantly pestering the whippersnappers with tales of what the Imperium was like 10,000 years ago]].
**Later it's stated that they mainly consist of Neophytes from various chapters who were drafted into the program, so they are <s>utterly green</s> ONLY harshly trained and have little true combat experience compared to most Marines. Think scouts on steroids.
**Rather than making interesting fluff out of this idea, the writers are trying to jump the plot forward from year 41,001 to 41,113 via the Indominus Crusade, a 112 year crusade where [[Great Crusade|an entire Legion of (mixed ancestry) Primaris marines]] called the Unnumbered Sons of the Primarchs (or Greyshields, after their shared heraldry) got enough experience that the writers can just treat Primaris Marines as normal Space Marines. Which sucks, because there could've been a great story in that.
***We get little hints of this having to prove themselves goodness in, the Dark Angels codex. A group of Hellblasters are half put off, half inspired by the strictness of their primogenitor. After the squad gets trapped in a hive city for days fighting off enemies, they rack up so many kills even Belial can't help but smile.
*The Dark Angel example above illustrates another problem: how well will the new Primaris Marines get along with their chapter? The Dark Angels are an extreme example given their <s>issues</s> UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE IMPERIUM, but other chapters may have their own problems getting the first couple batches of Primaris marines to get with the traditions and cultures of their chapters.
**As the Primaris have no Terminators( Aggressors are debatable) or Biker units or any real equivalents.(yet, if GW thought that far ahead) I.e. Hellblasters and Inceptors be deployed in place of Sternguard and Vanguard Veterans in other chapters. With the exception of the Primaris Liberian, induction into the Inner Circle or the lower ranks of the Ravenwing is unlikely.
*Primaris Marines are probably much harder and more expensive to produce than regular Astartes, especially when their borrowed Custodes lineage is taken into account. There may be entire chapters of them at first, but those numbers may not last long as they will likely be far harder to replenish after heavy casualties, and Primaris chapters probably wouldn't be able to bounce back from something like Rynn's World.
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] became obsessed with "perfecting" the Primaris Marines from the moment he first encountered them and has already begun trying to kidnap Primaris Marines for dissection. They've supposedly been made resistant to Chaos influence, but "resistant" doesn't mean "immune" by a long shot, since they still have a soul. In fact a [[Noxious Blightbringer]] is able to effect them in Dark Imperium, successfully hurting and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn't help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.
***Cawl claims that it was only due to the influence of the traitorous Primarchs that their Legions fell to Chaos. While this may be true, attempting to test that theory would almost certainly be a bad idea.
***The reasons as to why the the Lost Legions were purged so thoroughly were apparently so unthinkably horrible (so much that even after his rebellion had begun, Horus was still unwilling to break the vow he made to never speak of the Missing Primarchs) that Cawl trying to use their DNA might bite him in the ass even harder than for using gene-seed from the Traitor Primarchs.
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception to or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines. Orks would likely find them entertaining to fight, and Tyranids would just see them as more biomass to consume, with some extra chewy bits from the Sinew Coils. Given Fabulous Bill's interest in them, it's likely [[Haemonculus|Fabius' Commorite mentors]] will also find interest in them, as will [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot scientist]]. Fortunately, this could only benefit the Ynnari-Imperium alliance, who will most likely be the most accepting of it. There's no reason the Tau will see any problems, though if a kroot managed to eat a dead Primaris. that could lead to some "developments".

==Forces of the Primaris Marines==
[[File:Blood Raven 1.JPG|300px|thumb|right|"[[Roboute Guilliman|Lord Commander]], the batch 3789-Alpha is missing! Just after the visit of..." "[[Just as Planned|I know.]]"]]
Primaris Marines don't get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat. Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.
*'''[[Primaris Captain|Primaris Captain:]]''' Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even ''MOAR'' egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They're armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the Mark X Tacitus power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There's also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries.
*'''[[Primaris Librarian|Primaris Librarian:]]''' Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.
*'''[[Primaris Chaplain|Primaris Chaplain:]]''' Self-explanatory; they wear black robes as though they're aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage.
*'''[[Primaris Lieutenant|Primaris Lieutenants:]]''' The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).
*'''[[Primaris Ancient|Primaris Ancients:]]''' Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard's Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he's been upgraded. In case you were wondering, "Ancient" is a corruption of the rank of "Ensign" which was a term for an army's flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.
*'''[[Primaris Apothecary|Primaris Apothecary:]]''' A specialization of Primaris Marine only seen so far in artwork and recent promo photos. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a <s>cyberdong</s> mechadendrite on the Apothecary's back.
*'''Primaris Techmarine:''' One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That's about all we know.
*'''[[Reiver|Reivers:]]''' Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It's time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Reivers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they're nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.
*'''[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]''' Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]], but with a 3+ save. They have an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain's Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they're equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.
*'''[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]''' Intercessors are the <s>standard</s> SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they're armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they're even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).
*'''[[Inceptor|Inceptors:]]''' Inceptors are the <strike>[[Assault Marines]] equivalent</strike> drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors' focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn't mean they can't fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of "normal" Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don't get it in your head that their melee ability is "good", though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.
*'''[[Hellblaster|Hellblasters:]]''' Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there's nothing special about them as compared to "regular" Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it's not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they're at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)
*'''[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]''' For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnought status, we'll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they're so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn't be saved are made dread-ful.
*'''[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:''' The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody's entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can't go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking ''Primarchs.'' There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door - which also blocks the door on this thing if you try to convince a ''non''-Primaris to go inside. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere, including on its rear and sides, put twin-linked lascannon in the front hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.
*'''Overlord:''' The Overlord is the Primaris-exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them, but it seems they are ''too'' [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is '''ECKS BAWKS HUEG''', making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they're considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|'borrowed']] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].
*'''[[Astraeus|Astraeus Super-Heavy Tank]]:''' Surely the result of a grudging 3-way between a Mastodon, a Sicaran, and a somewhat reluctant Repulsor, the Astraeus is the first Primaris super-heavy tank (implying there will be more variants on the way) and looking to be an utter beast on the tabletop - it's armed with Land Raider style frontal Heavy Bolter mount, two front angled sponsons for Las-Rippers or Plasma Eradicators, topped with a turret mounted dual Macro-Accelerator Cannon. Given how expensive it is to field a decently kitted repulsor, it remains to be seen how viable it will be to concentrate so many points into one vehicle.

==On the Tabletop==
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly common now, so while it might not be a big improvement it can still be helpful. However, they also have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a "basically Kraken" Bolter with +6" range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6" range and -4 AP, and half-range [[AWESOME|one-handed Assault Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons. That they dual-wield. With jump packs.]] Defensively, so far only they have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain, Aggressors, and Inceptors can use it). Finally, their squads don't mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to "standard" marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.

Most of the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a <del>5</del> 10 model maximum (including the Serge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they're far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 36" is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren't financial in origin they can't take '''any''' transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you're not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game, and even then, it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can't carry too many). They have a special transport called a Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]), which somehow can't carry non-Primaris, but besides that they have no choice but to go footslogging.

However, single-model units can be astonishingly efficient - the most extreme case is the Primaris Librarian, who has a static, unchangeable loadout, but costs the exact same as a non-Primaris Librarian with the same loadout (a bolt pistol and Force Sword).

===Rules Datasheets===
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside. Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.
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==Gallery==
===Miniatures===
<gallery>
File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the Juggernaut BITCH!
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus]]!
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Being a Librarian ain't easy.
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|The Chaplain. Totally not [[Blizzard|Reaper from Overwatch]].
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|The Apothecary.
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!
File:Reivers.jpg|Boo, assholes!
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire ''squad'' of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns.
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing! Inspired by Youjo Senki?
File:IMG-20171123-WA0005.jpg|Lieutenant Tolmeron inspecting his sword with no option to change the pose of his miniature. Thanks, GW
File:IMG-20171123-WA0002.jpg|Lieutenant Zakariah. Look at how sly his face is, like he has just <s>apprehended the Fallen </s> CLEARED ALL HERETICS FROM THE SECTOR
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===Pictures===
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File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren't they beautiful?
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!
File:Aggressors.jpg|The Aggressors box.
File:PassiveAgressors.jpg|Passive Aggressors, ready to make catty remarks at the enemy
File:Chap&apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain.
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===Assorted===
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter
File:Primaris_comparison.png|Numarine, the carefree playboy, and Oldmarine, the grizzled vigilante. [[Batman|Have you ever seen them in the same art together?]]
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{{Primaris Marine-Forces}}

Primaris Space Marines

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[[File:New40KPrimarisArt1.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Look out Chaos, there's a new kid on the block.]]
{{Topquote|They were forged for Mankind's darkest hour, and that hour is upon us.|[[Roboute Guilliman]]}}
{{Topquote|In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light.|Unnamed Primaris Officer}}
{{Topquote|Today, we are canceling the apocalypse!|Marshal Stacker Pentecost, from the movie Pacific Rim}}

Primaris Marines (also known as Ultra-Ultramarines, Space Space Marines, Primarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Gigglymarines, Super Space Marines, Biglymarines, Space-marine Space-marine Space-Marines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, [[Stormcast Eternals|Spacesigmarines]], Guillimarines, Special Snowflake Marines, [[Mary Sue|Primarysues]], Primacucks, Ultra-Ultrasmurfs, Marines II: Electric Boogaloo, the Replacements and the New Kids) are the next step forward in Space Marine evolution (not counting the [[Raptor]] supermarines by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood). [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, faster, stronger, and maybe smarter than all that have come before them. Buckle up boys, its about to get hot in here.

==History and Background==
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against ''hundreds of thousands'' CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least.

Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]], our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch's [[/d/|genetic material]] that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.

Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman's plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival, Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.

In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters.

However, in the Black Library novel "Dark Imperium", Guilliman calls Primarises "Cawl's blasphemous hordes". So much for daddy's love, eh?

==New Stuff==
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it's the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it's got that sweet Maximus style vox grill. As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don't talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]]. As of 8E, this translates to +1T. Shiny.
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking, with <strike>crocs, capris, and</strike> skull-faced helmets.
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a "perfected" version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - 30" Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP-1 D1 - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new "Special Issue Boltgun" Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.
**At least two variants of Bolt Rifle exist- the Auto Bolt Rifle, which has lower AP but is better suited for longer ranges due to being Assault 2, and the Stalker Bolt Rifle, a Heavy 1 sniper variant with superior range and one extra point of AP.
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don't have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 20.
**The new organs are:
***'''Sinew Coils''', which turn the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay, we may be joking here, but it's basically metallic coils wrapped around the Marine's tendons and ligaments that can contract with extreme force.
****This is particularly interesting, as it's not actually a living organ, and hence is presumably not developed from gene-seed at all.
***'''The Magnificat''', which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the '''Immortis Gland''' intended for Primarchs, though the information needed to complete it is lost), as well as producing additional growth hormone.
***'''Belisarian Furnace''' (because Cawl gets a robo-boner for naming things after himself), essentially a 'last-stand' organ, which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration. This presumably explains the additional Wound they have.

==Potential Problems==
*While Primaris Marines are created from the gene-seed of all the Loyalist Primarchs, it is unknown how some of the more extreme genetic quirks of each bloodline will manifest in them. We could see anything from [[Blood Angels]] with cute little Cupid wings, to [[Flesh Tearers]] with terrifying vampire fangs, to transparent [[Raven Guard]], to even blacker [[Salamanders]], to [[Lamenters]] with greying temples and bags under their eyes (for a true "too old for this shit" attitude), to [[Black Dragons]] that look like a metal hedgehog with giant, adamantium coated bone spines and [[Space Wolves]] [[Fur Heresy|with fluffy little tails]]. But then again there's NO reason to actually expect the new modifications to worsen their genetic quirks. They're marines with new enhancements, not marines with a double dose of gene-seed or anything. It's probably somewhat more likely to strengthen their resistance to their quirks if anything. It's all up to whatever GeeDubs wants to do though, [[just as planned|so anything is possible]].
**According to Cawl, the Primaris gene-seed is actually even more stable than the standard version, with an estimated deviancy of .001% per generation. So far, it's at least been stable enough to create a Space Wolves successor that hasn't immediately devolved into Wulfen.
***It's unknown how stable normal marines who have been "upgraded" are, however.
*** The new Blood Angels codex confirms that they do suffer from the Red Thirst, but have more control over it than their counterparts. No Primaris Blood Angel has succumbed to the Black Rage...but whether they're actually immune to it is unknown.
**Robbie MacNiven, writer of the Carcharodons novel Red Tithe, has revealed that everyone's favorite space sharks WILL be receiving their own Primaris Marines, adding to the above interest in Chapter-specific quirks among Primaris. PRAISE THE FORGOTTEN ONE.
*In terms of actual combat experience, these guys are jumping into the deep end as green as an ork's asscrack. They may be bigger, stronger, faster, and have better armor and weapons, but that doesn’t change the fact that the marines they are reinforcing are their seniors by centuries, not even mentioning the battle experience of Chaos Marines. Well maybe yes/no: [[skub|The Dark Imperium novel says that the first batch of Primaris Marines are actually augmented space marines from the days after the Horus Heresy put into stasis and are constantly pestering the whippersnappers with tales of what the Imperium was like 10,000 years ago]].
**Later it's stated that they mainly consist of Neophytes from various chapters who were drafted into the program, so they are <s>utterly green</s> ONLY harshly trained and have little true combat experience compared to most Marines. Think scouts on steroids.
**Rather than making interesting fluff out of this idea, the writers are trying to jump the plot forward from year 41,001 to 41,113 via the Indominus Crusade, a 112 year crusade where [[Great Crusade|an entire Legion of (mixed ancestry) Primaris marines]] called the Unnumbered Sons of the Primarchs (or Greyshields, after their shared heraldry) got enough experience that the writers can just treat Primaris Marines as normal Space Marines. Which sucks, because there could've been a great story in that.
***We get little hints of this having to prove themselves goodness in, the Dark Angels codex. A group of Hellblasters are half put off, half inspired by the strictness of their primogenitor. After the squad gets trapped in a hive city for days fighting off enemies, they rack up so many kills even Belial can't help but smile.
*The Dark Angel example above illustrates another problem: how well will the new Primaris Marines get along with their chapter? The Dark Angels are an extreme example given their <s>issues</s> UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE IMPERIUM, but other chapters may have their own problems getting the first couple batches of Primaris marines to get with the traditions and cultures of their chapters.
**As the Primaris have no Terminators(Aggressors are debatable) or Biker units or any real equivalents.(yet, if GW thought that far ahead) I.e. Hellblasters and Inceptors can be considered equivalent to Sternguard and Vanguard Veterans of other chapters. With the exception of the Primaris Liberian, induction into the Inner Circle or the lower ranks of the Ravenwing is unlikely.
*Primaris Marines are probably much harder and more expensive to produce than regular Astartes, especially when their borrowed Custodes lineage is taken into account. There may be entire chapters of them at first, but those numbers may not last long as they will likely be far harder to replenish after heavy casualties, and Primaris chapters probably wouldn't be able to bounce back from something like Rynn's World.
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] became obsessed with "perfecting" the Primaris Marines from the moment he first encountered them and has already begun trying to kidnap Primaris Marines for dissection. They've supposedly been made resistant to Chaos influence, but "resistant" doesn't mean "immune" by a long shot, since they still have a soul. In fact a [[Noxious Blightbringer]] is able to effect them in Dark Imperium, successfully hurting and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn't help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.
***Cawl claims that it was only due to the influence of the traitorous Primarchs that their Legions fell to Chaos. While this may be true, attempting to test that theory would almost certainly be a bad idea.
***The reasons as to why the the Lost Legions were purged so thoroughly were apparently so unthinkably horrible (so much that even after his rebellion had begun, Horus was still unwilling to break the vow he made to never speak of the Missing Primarchs) that Cawl trying to use their DNA might bite him in the ass even harder than for using gene-seed from the Traitor Primarchs.
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception to or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines. Orks would likely find them entertaining to fight, and Tyranids would just see them as more biomass to consume, with some extra chewy bits from the Sinew Coils. Given Fabulous Bill's interest in them, it's likely [[Haemonculus|Fabius' Commorite mentors]] will also find interest in them, as will [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot scientist]]. Fortunately, this could only benefit the Ynnari-Imperium alliance, who will most likely be the most accepting of it. There's no reason the Tau will see any problems, though if a kroot managed to eat a dead Primaris. that could lead to some "developments".

==Forces of the Primaris Marines==
[[File:Blood Raven 1.JPG|300px|thumb|right|"[[Roboute Guilliman|Lord Commander]], the batch 3789-Alpha is missing! Just after the visit of..." "[[Just as Planned|I know.]]"]]
Primaris Marines don't get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat. Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.
*'''[[Primaris Captain|Primaris Captain:]]''' Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even ''MOAR'' egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They're armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the Mark X Tacitus power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There's also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries.
*'''[[Primaris Librarian|Primaris Librarian:]]''' Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.
*'''[[Primaris Chaplain|Primaris Chaplain:]]''' Self-explanatory; they wear black robes as though they're aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage.
*'''[[Primaris Lieutenant|Primaris Lieutenants:]]''' The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).
*'''[[Primaris Ancient|Primaris Ancients:]]''' Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard's Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he's been upgraded. In case you were wondering, "Ancient" is a corruption of the rank of "Ensign" which was a term for an army's flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.
*'''[[Primaris Apothecary|Primaris Apothecary:]]''' A specialization of Primaris Marine only seen so far in artwork and recent promo photos. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a <s>cyberdong</s> mechadendrite on the Apothecary's back.
*'''Primaris Techmarine:''' One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That's about all we know.
*'''[[Reiver|Reivers:]]''' Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It's time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Reivers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they're nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.
*'''[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]''' Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]], but with a 3+ save. They have an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain's Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they're equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.
*'''[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]''' Intercessors are the <s>standard</s> SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they're armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they're even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).
*'''[[Inceptor|Inceptors:]]''' Inceptors are the <strike>[[Assault Marines]] equivalent</strike> drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors' focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn't mean they can't fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of "normal" Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don't get it in your head that their melee ability is "good", though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.
*'''[[Hellblaster|Hellblasters:]]''' Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there's nothing special about them as compared to "regular" Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it's not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they're at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)
*'''[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]''' For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnought status, we'll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they're so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn't be saved are made dread-ful.
*'''[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:''' The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody's entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can't go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking ''Primarchs.'' There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door - which also blocks the door on this thing if you try to convince a ''non''-Primaris to go inside. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere, including on its rear and sides, put twin-linked lascannon in the front hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.
*'''Overlord:''' The Overlord is the Primaris-exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them, but it seems they are ''too'' [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is '''ECKS BAWKS HUEG''', making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they're considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|'borrowed']] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].
*'''[[Astraeus|Astraeus Super-Heavy Tank]]:''' Surely the result of a grudging 3-way between a Mastodon, a Sicaran, and a somewhat reluctant Repulsor, the Astraeus is the first Primaris super-heavy tank (implying there will be more variants on the way) and looking to be an utter beast on the tabletop - it's armed with Land Raider style frontal Heavy Bolter mount, two front angled sponsons for Las-Rippers or Plasma Eradicators, topped with a turret mounted dual Macro-Accelerator Cannon. Given how expensive it is to field a decently kitted repulsor, it remains to be seen how viable it will be to concentrate so many points into one vehicle.

==On the Tabletop==
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly common now, so while it might not be a big improvement it can still be helpful. However, they also have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a "basically Kraken" Bolter with +6" range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6" range and -4 AP, and half-range [[AWESOME|one-handed Assault Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons. That they dual-wield. With jump packs.]] Defensively, so far only they have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain, Aggressors, and Inceptors can use it). Finally, their squads don't mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to "standard" marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.

Most of the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a <del>5</del> 10 model maximum (including the Serge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they're far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 36" is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren't financial in origin they can't take '''any''' transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you're not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game, and even then, it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can't carry too many). They have a special transport called a Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]), which somehow can't carry non-Primaris, but besides that they have no choice but to go footslogging.

However, single-model units can be astonishingly efficient - the most extreme case is the Primaris Librarian, who has a static, unchangeable loadout, but costs the exact same as a non-Primaris Librarian with the same loadout (a bolt pistol and Force Sword).

===Rules Datasheets===
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside. Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.
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==Gallery==
===Miniatures===
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File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the Juggernaut BITCH!
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus]]!
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Being a Librarian ain't easy.
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|The Chaplain. Totally not [[Blizzard|Reaper from Overwatch]].
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|The Apothecary.
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!
File:Reivers.jpg|Boo, assholes!
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire ''squad'' of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns.
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing! Inspired by Youjo Senki?
File:IMG-20171123-WA0005.jpg|Lieutenant Tolmeron inspecting his sword with no option to change the pose of his miniature. Thanks, GW
File:IMG-20171123-WA0002.jpg|Lieutenant Zakariah. Look at how sly his face is, like he has just <s>apprehended the Fallen </s> CLEARED ALL HERETICS FROM THE SECTOR
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===Pictures===
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File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren't they beautiful?
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!
File:Aggressors.jpg|The Aggressors box.
File:PassiveAgressors.jpg|Passive Aggressors, ready to make catty remarks at the enemy
File:Chap&apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain.
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===Assorted===
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter
File:Primaris_comparison.png|Numarine, the carefree playboy, and Oldmarine, the grizzled vigilante. [[Batman|Have you ever seen them in the same art together?]]
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