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		<title>Weeaboo</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2601:147:4300:1949:2C11:9AD6:32A7:7F11: /* What doesn&amp;#039;t make you Weeaboo */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{topquote|Ohio /tg/-kun, you are looking kawaii today uguu~ (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧. Shall we play [[pretend]] on the futon after we eat our bento boxes desu? (&amp;gt;^3^)&amp;gt; Don&#039;t be Tsundere, you baka! It&#039;ll be sugoi!|Sample text of a typical weeaboo}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Weeaboo&#039;&#039;&#039;, commonly shortened to &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;weeb&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; in most conversations, is a noun/adjective commonly used as a perjorative for people whose main interests revolve around [[anime]] and/or [[manga]], in such a way that they are insufferable to everyone around them. The term has some controversy around it, as nobody can agree on where the threshold is for what counts as a weeaboo. However, it is still a commonly used term due to the prevalence of anime-related content on the internet and in media, including many domains that /tg/ is interested in.&lt;br /&gt;
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In a nutshell, a weeb is the anime-obsessed equivalent of [[That Guy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PBF071-Weeaboo.gif|thumb|right|The original PBF comic.]][[Image:We&#039;re all weeaboo.jpg|thumb|right|Welcome to 4chan!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The name Weeaboo is derived from a &#039;&#039;Perry Bible Fellowship&#039;&#039; comic, reaching internet stardom after the term was used as a wordfilter for &amp;quot;wapanese&amp;quot; on [[/b/]]. Although used in the comic as a nonsense word, it has since become synonymous with &amp;quot;wapanese&amp;quot; (itself short for &amp;quot;wannabe Japanese&amp;quot;) until it supplanted the original term altogether. The term typically refers to people who believe that Japanese stuff is better simply because it is Japanese, with implications of harboring an unhealthy obsession with the culture and media of Japan (such as [[anime]]) while simultaneously managing to know very little about it. The term has spun off to describe other types of obsessions, such as Teaboo (girls obsessed with stereotypical Proper British culture, specifically the new Sherlock show and [[Doctor Who|The Eleventh Doctor]]), Koreaboos (girls obsessed with K-Pop boy bands; considering the West hasn&#039;t really had actual boy bands since the 90s, it&#039;s not hard to see why) and Wolfaboo (kids obsessed with wolves, may or may not overlap with [[furry|furries]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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They are also known to hate all other &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Asian&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; cultures and think that Japan is the &amp;quot;Best &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Asia&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Country Ever!&amp;quot;, despite not knowing that just seventy years ago (and before!), the Japanese and Japan itself was one of the most [[Imperium of Man|conservative, imperialistic, xenophobic, theocratic, fascist nations in the world]], hated or despised by almost everybody else, with the majority of the vote stemming from [[China]] and [[Asians|Korea]] (just open a history book you lazies). Modern Japan was given a rise in popularity due to American propaganda, as THE Capitalist Ally in the East, and the new Japanese generation, after being nuked to submission, putting on a new liberal democratic theme presenting themselves as sexually-liberal free-market libertarians with almost no similarity to their past conservative-fascist ancestors, to the point that they became the opposite. While conservative-Imperial Japan boasted a high population rise, modern anime Japan is almost sterile to the point of extinction.  This isn&#039;t surprising, given their [[hive|issues with having space for everyone]] (fortunately, not as bad as it could be... yet).  It helps that conservative-Imperial [[Japan]] arranged-married pretty much everyone.  It was much quicker to get people making babies that way.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aside from the association with a real-world nationality and culture, everything wrong with weeaboos (obsession to the point of breaking with reality, among other things) could just as easily be applied to [[bronies]], [[furries]], or [[That Guy|any fandom, really]]. Weeaboos simply get a lot of attention because it gets applied to a whole &#039;&#039;medium&#039;&#039; where many of the same tropes and stereotypes will cross-pollinate over many different franchises, thus making weebs very numerous and visible. Nobody really knows why weebs behave the way they do; some people blame anime itself, but more likely these people are just sad and lonely individuals who were badly socialized growing up, and likely didn&#039;t have enough sane friends to tell them when they were acting obnoxious and/or creepy.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Japanese side of the Coin==&lt;br /&gt;
In Japan, the Japanese have a similar concept they call the &amp;quot;Otaku&amp;quot;; there, an Otaku is basically a shut-in super-nerd who never leaves their room and obsesses over a typically nerdy hobby, usually anime/manga, and often leads to hoarding useless crap in their tiny apartment (in other words, a Japanese [[Neckbeard]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Weeaboos appropriated the term to simply mean &amp;quot;anyone who watches anime / reads manga&amp;quot;, so be wary about applying the term across cultural boundaries. One key difference between otaku and weebs though is that otaku understand Japanese culture, and more importantly, social etiquette. With weebs, their only idea of Japanese society comes from anime/manga so they make the critical mistake of assuming that they&#039;re accurate depictions of Japanese social interactions, instead of being pure escapism.&lt;br /&gt;
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People in real-life Japan emphasize being reserved and polite, with many, &#039;&#039;many&#039;&#039; unwritten rules of social interaction; this is very unlike the extroverted and loud characters you frequently see in anime. Visiting weebs who don&#039;t realize this quick may find themselves committing multiple social faux-pas without even realizing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fun fact: Japanese people see no real distinction between eastern and western animation. If you ask someone what their favorite anime is, they&#039;re as likely to reply &amp;quot;Spongebob Squarepants&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Naruto.&amp;quot; Weeaboos, on the other hand, are extremely adamant that there is a massive fucking difference between Japanese anime and all other forms of animation, and that any non-Japanese animation that mimics anime isn&#039;t true anime (one such example is [[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]. Looks like anime, but made in America). It gets especially funny when you realize that reverse weeaboos exist; if you want some grade-A entertainment, go watch some Japanese people argue over dubs vs. subs on King of the Hill.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On /tg/==&lt;br /&gt;
Because [[Moot]] originally intended for 4chan to revolve around the [[/a/]] board as a clone of Japan&#039;s 2channel imageboard, it&#039;s unsurprising that many 4chan users are heavily into anime. [[approved anime|Fa/tg/uys are no exception]], though many people will argue that it takes more than a love of anime to be a weeaboo. The key factor is the &#039;&#039;obsession&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;obnoxiousness&#039;&#039; that comes with being a weeaboo, which is what draws people&#039;s ire in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;
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/tg/ has a tendency to use the word in a derogatory manner to describe anything &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;vaguely Asian in origin or inspiration&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; one does not like. This often incites the ire of fa/tg/uys who insist on the more precise definition of the term, resulting in [[rage]] all round.&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, the fact that /tg/ tends to name any female [[Original character, do not steal|original character]] [something]-chan &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;ironically&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;unironically&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; who even knows anymore, and so many of the [[drawfags]] tend to have animesque art styles, means that fa/tg/uys are the most weeaboo people on the-- {{BLAM}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In a weird way, one might say that weeaboo has made a full circle, and has returned to its origins--being of a word that means absolutely nothing, keeps getting repeated again and again, and leads to actions that are a complete waste of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;tl;dr:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[DOOM: Repercussions of Evil|no fa/tg/uys, you are the weeaboos.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[file:Weeaboo Heaven.gif|thumb|left|When a weeaboo enters /tg/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==What doesn&#039;t make you Weeaboo==&lt;br /&gt;
*A general interest in Japanese culture and history (this can knock a few points off the weeaboo counter if it goes for non surface level things that are the first things that people tend to absorb through pop culture, such as an interest in the social, economic, technological and cultural changes of the Edo period vs what kind of swords the samurai had).&lt;br /&gt;
*Watching anime and reading manga&lt;br /&gt;
*Eating Japanese cuisine&lt;br /&gt;
*Wanting to visit Japan&lt;br /&gt;
*Learning Japanese&lt;br /&gt;
*Liking cute shit&lt;br /&gt;
*Having a favorite character, specifically a &amp;quot;waifu&amp;quot; (though this can toe the line or worse depending on circumstances)&lt;br /&gt;
*Owning &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;normal&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; memorabilia of your favorite show (such as a T-shirt or poster or some action figures of robots)&lt;br /&gt;
*Calling yourself a Weeb ironically, self deprecatingly or purposely using it in the wrong context.&lt;br /&gt;
**This happens a lot on Twitch and other social platforms.&lt;br /&gt;
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==What DOES make you a Weeaboo==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:WeeabooDreamsShattered.png|thumb|250px|right|Weeaboo discovers the horrifying truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: This is a non-comprehensive list that includes all items that definitively make you a weeaboo; because the line between weeaboo and non-weeaboo is blurry, the traits shown here tend to be on the [[That Guy|more extreme side]]. Someone who has traits that aren&#039;t quite as bad as the ones listed may still get called a weeaboo, but that&#039;s a [[skub|matter of debate]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Considering anime / manga as a superior art form just because it&#039;s from Japan&lt;br /&gt;
*Automatically thinking Japan and everything about it is superior to other countries for no conceivable reason, other than the fact that it&#039;s Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
*Complain that any Western work of fiction is ripping off anime using very weak evidence&lt;br /&gt;
*Getting [[rage|angry]] when someone doesn&#039;t watch your favorite show&lt;br /&gt;
*Refusing to acknowledge flaws in Japanese stories or merits in Western stories because of their origin&lt;br /&gt;
:* The exception to this is getting into intense arguments about which anime is better, which can still enter weeb territory&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inquisition|Judging people&#039;s character based on people&#039;s taste in shows]], or rather the 95% of such that amounts to calling people who don&#039;t share your taste fake anime fans&lt;br /&gt;
*Accusing people who are watching a show you don&#039;t like of destroying anime&lt;br /&gt;
*Vilifying dubs as a matter of principle, regardless of actual dub quality.&lt;br /&gt;
:*For extra stupid: complaining about &amp;quot;dubs&amp;quot; and asking for the &amp;quot;original Japanese sub&amp;quot; for shows that were &#039;&#039;[[derp|made in English]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Next level stupid: Only watching western shows in Japanese dubs with English subtitles.&lt;br /&gt;
*Eating Japanese cuisine &#039;&#039;exclusively&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bonus points: thinking the Japanese eat nothing but traditional Japanese food, despite the fact they&#039;ve been taking a liking to western food for centuries (Tempura was brought to Japan by the Portugese in the 16th century).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting angry at people who eat Asian Fusion instead of &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; Japanese food&lt;br /&gt;
:*Alternatively: Only eating Panda Express / Asian Fusion because you have no idea what Japanese food is besides sushi and ramen&lt;br /&gt;
*Wanting to visit Japan [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWiI6JVX5PE and then getting disappointed that it&#039;s not like anime] &lt;br /&gt;
*Expecting all Asian people to have watched anime and be as big a weeaboo as you&lt;br /&gt;
*Learning Japanese poorly by watching anime, then slipping in the handful of words you know into everyday conversation constantly, whether your peers understand you or not (see above sample text)&lt;br /&gt;
*Shouting &amp;quot;Kimochi!&amp;quot; in public. The literal translation means feeling good, however the connotations are closer to &amp;quot;I&#039;m cumming!&amp;quot;, which is not something you use in a casual conversation. Bonus points for saying it in front of someone fluent in Japanese, who will either look at you funny and/or call the police out of [[Dark Eldar|fear of sexual harassment.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Referring to everyone you know as -chan or -kun or -senpai at all times, despite you not being in Japan. (bonus points for using honorifics incorrectly or using them when describing yourself)&lt;br /&gt;
*Endlessly quoting shit from anime, whether it&#039;s appropriate or not&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Glomping&amp;quot; (leaping at and aggressively hugging) people who at best only think of you as an acquaintance. This can be especially bad if you&#039;re significantly heavier than the intended target.&lt;br /&gt;
*Watching excessive amounts of [[/d/|hentai]] (look, we get it, for most people porn is porn. But there&#039;s a point where watching 30 cartoons a day about [[dickgirl]]s getting their [[anal circumference|asses rammed]] becomes a [[heresy|problem)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Liking [[Lolicon]] or Shotacon (of course, maybe you&#039;re just a pedophile and don&#039;t give a shit about Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
*An obsession with Yaoi or Bishies, particularly stories with [[rape]] (most often applies to female weebs. The Japanese actually have a term for this: Fujoshi, which literally means &amp;quot;rotten girl.&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Taking your obsession into the real world by &amp;quot;shipping&amp;quot; real life dudes, whether they&#039;re gay or not (or you&#039;re just fucking creepy, in which case you&#039;re in the &amp;quot;Just as Bad&amp;quot; category as pedophiles).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blackmailing creators into [http://www.newnownext.com/voltron-legendary-defender-blackmail-studio-mir-klance/05/2017/ making your gay fanfiction canon].&lt;br /&gt;
:*On rare occasion a Fujoshi may join your gaming group and become the female equivalent of [[That Guy]], usually by rolling up a flamboyantly gay character who sexually harasses the other male characters to an uncomfortable degree.&lt;br /&gt;
*Unironically rejecting all real-life women for cartoon women (aka &amp;quot;3D Pig-Disgusting&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting into arguments over how your [[waifu]] is superior and all other waifus are shit&lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting into arguments with artists over misrepresenting your waifu&lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting into arguments over whether or not having more than one waifu counts as infidelity&lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting angry at people drawing/fapping to porn of your waifu&lt;br /&gt;
*Running with your arms behind your back. [[Stormfang|No, it&#039;s not more aerodynamic]]. [[Orks|No, it doesn&#039;t make you faster]]. [[Derp|It just makes you look like a tool.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Most of your wardrobe and possessions are related to anime in some way, such as [[Games Workshop|mountains of useless and expensive figurines]] (and before you say it, at least you can do something with [[Warhammer]] figurines besides look at them)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Owning expensive statuettes of your waifu&lt;br /&gt;
:*Owning expensive statuettes of your waifu that you legally can&#039;t show to minors&lt;br /&gt;
*Wearing cosplay outfits in public outside of conventions &lt;br /&gt;
:*Getting angry when a cosplayer isn&#039;t in character 100% of the time, or else is &amp;quot;doing it wrong&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*Wearing cosplay when you are too fat to resemble the characters body type, especially if you insist that your cosplay is &amp;quot;perfect.&amp;quot; Bonus points if [[Furry|you &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; the character now]], and everyone should treat you as such.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Unironically&#039;&#039; owning a [[wikipedia:Dakimakura|dakimakura]], because we all know what that&#039;s about.&lt;br /&gt;
**Going on dates with your dakimakura without a hint of irony&lt;br /&gt;
**Going on dates with your dakimakura in public that isn&#039;t part of a joke&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20|Believing Katanas are the best weapon ever and can cut through ANYTHING]] (and in the event that if they could do so if made from a hypothetical bullshitium alloy, that any other type of sword would not be able to do the same if made from the same metal)&lt;br /&gt;
*Going to the Holocaust Museum and taking a photo doing the Nazi salute because of Hetalia ([http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmwdem2a6P1qf7xf0.jpg yes, that actually happened])&lt;br /&gt;
*Shoving Hetalia characters into geography or talks about it during a class of international relations and expecting people to get your reference&lt;br /&gt;
*Attacking movies as [[SJW]], then sabotaging review scores in favor of a live action adaption of a manga or anime.&lt;br /&gt;
*Believing that watching anime/reading manga exempts you from being considered a [[/pol/|white supremacist.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Things that don&#039;t necessarily make you a Weeaboo, but are commonly associated traits===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mortarion|Bad Hygiene]]&lt;br /&gt;
:*Body Odor&lt;br /&gt;
:*Bad Breath&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Neckbeard|Ungroomed facial hair]]&lt;br /&gt;
:*Greasy hair or skin&lt;br /&gt;
*Overweight&lt;br /&gt;
*Ill-fitting / dirty clothes&lt;br /&gt;
*Basement dweller&lt;br /&gt;
*Extreme social awkwardness&lt;br /&gt;
*[[/tg/|Frequent tantrums]]&lt;br /&gt;
*No verbal filters or social boundaries&lt;br /&gt;
*No volume control&lt;br /&gt;
*Elitist attitudes&lt;br /&gt;
*Getting anal-retentive about adaptations and rejecting those by default in favor of the original material. This is sadly absolutely not limited to [[/a/|this hive of scum and villainy]]; a Tolkienfag raging that the movies are poor adaptations of the books is just as obnoxious as a weeb raging about anime butchering the original manga.&lt;br /&gt;
**This said, some adaptations are absolutely terrible and should never have seen the light of day to begin with. &lt;br /&gt;
*Constantly tell inside jokes that aren&#039;t even that funny to begin with&lt;br /&gt;
*Wanting to exclusively date Asians (assuming you&#039;re not Asian yourself)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Matt Ward|Terrible fanfiction]]/[[original character, do not steal|unoriginal character]]s with [[Tau|strong anime themes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Inability to relate to people or serious discussions without constant references to fiction&lt;br /&gt;
*Delusional behavior (e.g. being unable to separate reality from their favorite work of fiction)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slaanesh|Violating people&#039;s personal space]] or [[Blood Ravens|personal property]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Khorne|Reacting violently to shit that doesn&#039;t actually matter]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Stalking behavior&lt;br /&gt;
*Outright sexual harassment in the most extreme cases&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anime]] &amp;amp; [[Manga]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Battle for Dominus Pillowus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[BESM]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maid RPG]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary Sue]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tau]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ribbon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rising Sons]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tanto Cuore]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Waifu]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBfWKmRFTjM| A compilation of weeaboos found in the wild.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://gunshowcomic.com/ac/part1/ The Gunshow] shows us the social dynamics of a typical anime club.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://i.redd.it/j8z2wup79gm01.jpg Let&#039;s see...] Annoying broken Japanese? Check. Fetishizing Asian dudes? Check. Implying he&#039;s gay with his best friend? WE&#039;VE HIT THE TRIFECTA FOLKS!&lt;br /&gt;
You think we were kidding about the war crimes? [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre]]. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Crimes]]. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Primaris Space Marines</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:New40KPrimarisArt1.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Look out Chaos, there&#039;s a new kid on the block.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|They were forged for Mankind&#039;s darkest hour, and that hour is upon us.|[[Roboute Guilliman]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|In a galaxy wreathed in darkness, we must be the light.|Unnamed Primaris Officer}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Today, we are canceling the apocalypse!|&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Marshal&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Senior Princep Stacker Pentecost, from the &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;movie Pacific Rim&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Collegia Titanica}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Space Marines&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as Primaris Marines, Ultra-Ultramarines, Space Space Marines, Primarines, NuMarines, Chadmarines, [[Ultramarines: The Movie|The Greater-est of them all]], Adeptus Restartes, Gigglymarines, Super Space Marines, Biglymarines, Space-marine Space-marine Space-Marines, 8thmarines, Bigmars, [[Stormcast Eternals|Spacesigmarines]], Guillimarines, Special Snowflake Marines, [[Mary Sue|Primarysues]], Ultra-Ultrasmurfs, Marines II: Electric Boogaloo, the Replacements and the New Kids) are the next step forward in [[Space Marine]] evolution, not counting the [[Raptor]] Supermarines made by [[Corax]] during the [[Horus Heresy]] before [[Alpharius]] spiked the gene-tech with [[Daemon]] Blood. [[Roboute Guilliman|Big Bobby G]] got together with [[Belisarius Cawl]] and put together this next generation of Astartes. They are bigger, stronger, tougher and maybe smarter than all that have come before them (big &amp;quot;maybe&amp;quot;, though).&lt;br /&gt;
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Buckle up boys, it&#039;s about to get hot in here.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History and Background==&lt;br /&gt;
Shortly after the conclusion of the Horus Heresy, Guilliman predicted that another major Chaos attack on the Imperium might come at some point in the future. Though the Space Marines had proven themselves worthy defenders of Mankind, the Primarch foresaw that there might be a time where even they would struggle against the onslaught of the Ruinous Powers - [[Derp|because Roboute himself broke Legions in chapters]], and those tend to have problems fighting Black Crusades against &#039;&#039;hundreds of thousands&#039;&#039; CSM (the reason why Dorn declined Codex Astartes at first, being one of the few after the Scouring to suppose the Traitor Legions may be back one day). But nowadays it turns out Guilliman knew about it as well - which makes the whole situation awkward to say the least. &lt;br /&gt;
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Ahem, in a frankly extreme show of [[just as planned]] (though Guilliman probably didn&#039;t plan to be made Fulgrim&#039;s bitch), our [[Spiritual Liege]] gained the aid of Archmagos Belisarius Cawl and began a program to create a new, superior form of Space Marines in secret over the next ten millennia. To assist him, Guilliman gave Cawl a relic called the Sangprimus Portum- a device containing the purest samples of each Primarch&#039;s [[/d/|genetic material]] that outstripped even the gene-seed in its potency.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even after he was poisoned by [[Fulgrim]], Guilliman&#039;s plan continued without anybody learning about it, and by the time of his revival, Primaris Marines were ready to be unveiled to the Imperium - the only thing needed was a sanction from the Primarch himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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In conjunction with the [[Ultima Founding]], there are now going to be entirely new chapters composed just of Primaris Marines as well, with some taking over the [[Fortress-Monastery|fortress-monasteries]] of extinct chapters. In addition many chapters devastated by recent conflicts are also being reinforced by the Primaris joining their ranks. Some to the point that they essentially become Primaris chapters with the original marines becoming a minority in the ranks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Standard marines can also be &amp;quot;transformed&amp;quot; into Primaris Marines. The first revealed to have gone through with this procedure was [[Marneus Calgar]]. However, the process, dubbed the &amp;quot;Rubicon Primaris&amp;quot; is also agonizing even by Space Marine standards, very difficult (the description of it we have for when Marneus Calgar went through it has his entire body sliced open and briefly killed him in the process- they had to jump-start his heart to revive him afterwards), and according to Cawl himself it has a 61.6% chance of failure until Cawl had enough data to refine the process. By and large, it&#039;s indisputably easier to make new Primaris from scratch rather than convert old marines, so expect the procedure to be mostly restricted to special characters with the necessary plot armor to survive it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The introduction of the Primaris marines and the Rubicon Primaris has been controversially received by the current space marine chapters across the Imperium, with opinions ranging from enthusiastic to full-on hostility - Guilliman himself has referred to the Primaris as &amp;quot;Cawl&#039;s blasphemous hordes&amp;quot;, not because he himself is distasteful of them (quite the opposite, in fact), but as a reference to how controversial their implementation has been to the wider Imperium. Some claim that the Primaris would be the end of many chapters&#039; traditions and character (which isn’t meta at all) and is against what the Emperor intended for the Astartes. Others claim they will breathe new life into many struggling chapters and an ailing Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
*The basic Primaris Marine is encased in [[Power Armour#Mark X: Tacticus Armour|Mark X Tacticus Armour]]. Basically, it&#039;s the best of all the suits that came before it, wrapped up into one convenient package; no [[Beakie]] schnozz, but it&#039;s got that sweet Maximus style vox grill.  As usual, mechanically this is entirely cosmetic.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|We don&#039;t talk about Mark IX Power Armour]].&lt;br /&gt;
**Bigger, tougher Primaris Marines wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]].  As of 8E, this translates to +1T.  Shiny.&lt;br /&gt;
**Reivers wear [[Power Armour#Mark X: Phobos Armour|Mark X Phobos Armour]], sleeker-looking, with &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;crocs, capris, and&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; skull-faced helmets.&lt;br /&gt;
*They wield the [[Bolt#Bolt Rifle|Mark II Cawl-pattern Bolt rifle]] as their standard firearm. Apparently a &amp;quot;perfected&amp;quot; version of the ubiquitous bolter, it does have an improved statline - 30&amp;quot; Rapid Fire 1 S4 AP-1 D1 - which appears to be a boltgun with an extended barrel.&lt;br /&gt;
**Its statline is one AP worse than the new &amp;quot;Special Issue Boltgun&amp;quot; Sternguard carry, but their big selling point is some combination of being cheaper/easier to manufacture and using more readily available/cheaper/easier to manufacture ammunition, reflected in their points cost - bolt rifles are the same gun for 3 points cheaper in 8E.&lt;br /&gt;
**At least two variants of Bolt Rifle exist- the Auto Bolt Rifle, which has lower AP and shorter ranges but offers greater mobility due to being Assault 2, and the Stalker Bolt Rifle, a Heavy 1 sniper variant with superior range and one extra point of AP.&lt;br /&gt;
*An enhanced [[gene-seed]], which was created by combining the purified genetic material of the Loyalist Primarchs with parts of the [[Adeptus Custodes|Custodes]] creation process (as they don&#039;t have gene-seed) that adds 3 more organs to the existing 19. It&#039;s also worth noting that Cawl did something to make the Primaris Marines physically incapable of turning traitor. Guilliman&#039;s internal monologue in Dark Imperium reveals that he considers it an impossibility for Primarines to turn, unlike &amp;quot;the old breed&amp;quot;. Even though he is against the use of genes from the traitor legions despite the extreme heroica of the loyalists of those legions.  Which is seriously a dick move.  This has interesting implications about whether or not the Primaris marines truly have free will, assuming that they truly are unable to fall to Chaos- it is just as likely that they haven&#039;t been active long enough for any corruption to take hold yet. The book War of Secrets heavily implies they have some kind of innate Chaos resistance, being immune to a psychic plague that infested other Space Marines. &lt;br /&gt;
**The new organs are: &lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;Sinew Coils&#039;&#039;&#039;, which turn the Primaris Marines into [[Wat|Inspector Gadget]]....okay, we may be joking here, but it&#039;s basically metallic coils wrapped around the Marine&#039;s tendons and ligaments that can contract with extreme force. &lt;br /&gt;
****This is particularly interesting, as it&#039;s not actually a living organ, and hence is presumably not developed from gene-seed at all (Actually, in the book &amp;quot;Dark Imperium: Plague War&amp;quot; Guy Haley describes them as a &amp;quot;network of supplementary muscles unique to the Primaris Marines&amp;quot;. So maybe they are a real organic implant and not a bionic one. Who knows because, for example, the Dark Imperium books also contradicts the 8th Edition Codices about the original primaris haven&#039;t been recruited from the original legiones homeworlds. So what we could have here is just another classic case of author messing up the fluff again as it is described as metallic in most other publications).&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;The Magnificat&#039;&#039;&#039;, which just sets the rest of the superhuman organs into overdrive (and is itself part of a super-organ dubbed the &#039;&#039;&#039;Immortis Gland&#039;&#039;&#039; intended for Primarchs, though the information needed to complete it is lost), as well as producing additional growth hormone.&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;Belisarian Furnace&#039;&#039;&#039; (because Cawl gets a robo-boner for naming things after himself), essentially a &#039;last-stand&#039; organ, which gives a Primaris Marine a supercharged adrenaline rush near death while triggering rapid tissue and bone regeneration.  This presumably explains the additional Wound they have.&lt;br /&gt;
****The organ also happens to be essential in the implementation of the Rubicon Primaris. The current procedure apparently kills the patient for a short while and the organs healing abilities is essential in reviving the patient post operation (at least that is what occured in Marneus Calgars case) assuming that they come back alive at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Potential Problems==&lt;br /&gt;
* Primaris marines were made from all extant Loyalist genelines, and thanks to the material made available to [[Belisarius Cawl]] through the Sangprimus Portum, show little to none of the idiosyncrasies that usually mark the bloodlines of [[Space Wolves|Russ]] and [[Blood Angels|Sanguinius]]. Not only that, but according to an (admittedly biased) in-universe source, there&#039;s only a .001% chance of genetic deviation per generation, which means that the Primaris genestock are incredibly stable as well.  Interestingly, thanks to Cawl&#039;s work Chapters that have lost organs through the centuries (like the [[Imperial Fists]]) or have malfunctioning organs (like the [[Raven Guard]]) all of a sudden have a complete set of organs thanks to the influx of new Primaris blood.&lt;br /&gt;
** This means of course that Chapters like the [[Space Wolves]], who due to the same quirks of their genetics were unable to &#039;&#039;have&#039;&#039; successors, [[Wolfspear|can now have them]], without fear of them devolving into [[Wulfen]] in one generation. Despite this stability, some people (see [[Flesh Tearers|Gabriel Seth]]) aren&#039;t too happy at this flagrant tinkering with the Emperor&#039;s work.  Despite the fact the Primarchs and Astartes were created by teams of gene-smiths and the Emperor acted more like a project leader than personal inventor.  One of the major head guys of said projects was Cawl himself. If you really think about it, this means Cawl actually has a greater claim to their creation than the Emperor, which is kinda disturbing in itself.&lt;br /&gt;
** It&#039;s worth noting that in the &#039;&#039;&#039;Kill Team Focus: The Adeptus Astartes&#039;&#039;&#039;, [[Black Dragons]] Reivers with bone mutations are mentioned. Maybe this is due to the purposeful mutation farming by the Black Dragons, or maybe the mutation rate is higher than Daddy Cawl cares to admit. That said, it&#039;s been 100 years since the Ultima Founding, and chapters can, presumably, create their own Primaris Marines, not to mention the AdMech were the ones who (unintentionally) gave them their specific mutation in the first place, so maybe Cawl&#039;s fucking around with them or [[heresy|he purposefully gave their Primaris the same mutation]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite being bigger and stronger than &amp;quot;regular&amp;quot; Astartes, what the Primaris initially lacked was actual battlefield experience (a fact bemoaned by Captain Felix of the [[Ultramarines]] in &#039;&#039;Dark Imperium&#039;&#039; to have been the cause of most of the initial losses to the Primaris).  While this has been mostly been offset by the long and hard Indomitus Crusade campaign, even after a hundred-odd years of war the average Primaris marine is looked upon as a relative greenhorn by regular Astartes veterans. They have a lot to prove to their adopted Chapters as a result.&lt;br /&gt;
** We get little hints of this having to prove themselves goodness in, the Dark Angels codex. A group of Hellblasters are half put off, half inspired by the strictness of their primogenitor. After the squad gets trapped in a hive city for days fighting off enemies, they rack up so many kills even Belial can&#039;t help but smile.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Dark Angel example above illustrates another problem: how well will the new Primaris Marines get along with their chapter? The Dark Angels are an extreme example given their &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;issues&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; UNSWERVING LOYALTY TO THE IMPERIUM, but other chapters may have their own problems getting the first couple batches of Primaris marines to get with the traditions and cultures of their chapters. The Space Wolves were mentioned as being similar, as some of the Wolf Lords initially questioned the worth of those not born on Fenris to be called sons of Leman Russ, despite the Legion’s recruitment practices prior to finding its Primarch and their extensive achievments during that period. In spite of their misgivings and claims that Guilliman was using them to dilute their traditions, Logan Grimnar ordered that they be integrated into the packs; however, rivalries between Primaris Space Wolves and their shorter counterparts are still common. At least papa wolf doesn’t take shit and accepts whatever helps protect humanity.&lt;br /&gt;
**As the Primaris have no Terminators ([[skub|Aggressors are debatable]]) or Biker units or any real equivalents. (Yet, if GW thought that far ahead.) I.e. Hellblasters and Inceptors can be deployed in place of Sternguard and Vanguard Veterans in other chapters. With the exception of Primaris Librarians, induction into the Inner Circle or the upper ranks of the Ravenwing is unlikely, at least until some time passes.  Or in fluff they might end up being added without specialized vehicles and the size issue could he handwaived. There are also rumors of Primaris getting actual Terminators and Bikers &amp;quot;soon&amp;quot;. Though it&#039;s best to take them with a grain of salt as they&#039;ve been around since Primaris Marines were announced for Dark Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chaos will be interested in the Primaris Marines. The [[Chaos Gods]] are not happy with the existence of the Primaris Marines, and are creating some warp charged warriors to counter them (enhanced Chosen, perhaps). [[Fabius Bile|Fabulous Bill]] became obsessed with &amp;quot;perfecting&amp;quot; the Primaris Marines from the moment he first encountered them and has already begun trying to kidnap Primaris Marines for dissection. They&#039;ve supposedly been made resistant to Chaos influence, but &amp;quot;resistant&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t mean &amp;quot;immune&amp;quot; by a long shot, since they still have a soul. In fact a [[Noxious Blightbringer]] is able to effect them in Dark Imperium, successfully hurting and trying to get them to turn. And come to think of it, the cover image of 8th Edition does seem to partially show a [[Plague Marine]] in Tacitus armor...&lt;br /&gt;
**The discovery that Cawl wanted to use Traitor Legion gene-seed as well as the gene-seed of the missing legions to make Primaris Marines doesn&#039;t help the matter; Guilliman refused to let him do so, but he has a feeling Cawl will try it anyway with predictable results.&lt;br /&gt;
***Cawl claims that it was only due to the influence of the traitorous Primarchs that their Legions fell to Chaos. While this may be true, attempting to test that theory would almost certainly be an extremely bad idea.&lt;br /&gt;
****The [[Sons of the Phoenix]] exist.&lt;br /&gt;
***The reasons as to why the the Lost Legions were purged so thoroughly were apparently so unthinkably horrible (so much that even after his rebellion had begun, Horus was still unwilling to break the vow he made to never speak of the Missing Primarchs) that Cawl trying to use their DNA might bite him in the ass even harder than for using gene-seed from the Traitor Primarchs. &lt;br /&gt;
*While barely explored in-universe so far, the various alien races in the setting may also take exception to or dangerous interest in the Primaris Marines.[[Urien Rakarth]] has expressed interest in them in spite of what he calls Guilliman&#039;s &amp;quot;lack of imagination&amp;quot;, and has requested his [[Haemonculus|Haemonculi]] bring as many to him as possible; more unnervingly, he has expressed that he will be saving his best oubliette for the Primarch if he ever wished to &amp;quot;learn from the master&amp;quot;. It would be equally unsurprising if [[Illuminor Szeras|a certain spider-legged robot mad scientist]] also wanted to collect a few Primaris specimens. The rest of the alien races, fortunately, are much less interested in genetic modification and would be more likely to view them as being more or less like any other Space Marine, although at least one Ork Mekboy came up with the idea of creating more potent bullets to deal with &amp;quot;da big beakies&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The book &amp;quot;War of Secrets&amp;quot; has the Primaris Marines of the Dark Angels (and by implication, all Primaris Marines of Terran stock) heavily influenced by the culture of Mars: they call the Emperor the Omnissiah, reverently call their creator &#039;Pater Cawl&#039;, and swear to the glory of &amp;quot;chapter, Terra and Mars&amp;quot;. This raises the question of if they are more loyal to the Adeptus Mechanicus than the Imperium or even their own Chapter. Indeed, in the book its one of the main reasons the Dark Angels don&#039;t trust them.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite the Primaris widely being seen as, and intended to be, the replacements for standard Astartes, and most Chapters having the means and technology to create Primaris Space Marines of their own, many still choose to continue creating standard Space Marines as well for their more flexible and readily available equipment and combat doctrines (not to mention being able to drive all the space marine vehicles that the Primaris are apparently too cool for). Outside of full Primaris chapters, the newmarines are gonna have to just get used to being supplementary.  Not that this is surprising- only so much gene-seed is produced, and nobody&#039;s dumb enough to just throw it out.&lt;br /&gt;
**While the Rubicon Primaris can convert existing Astartes into Primaris, the process is life-threatening, complex, and  prone to failure due to lack of refinement. On top of all that, it has caused a fair degree of friction in itself, with some Marines welcoming the possibility for all Astartes to become Primaris and others whispering of possible refusal or even open revolt if the transformation was made compulsory, although given how risky the procedure is, this probably isn&#039;t an overt concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Forces of the Primaris Marines==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primaris Marines don&#039;t get to select from a variety of equipment loadouts, but the equipment they do carry is designed by [[Cawl]], who is shockingly competent, so they usually outgun their non-Primaris equivalents who tried to choose an otherwise identical loadout; this forces them to depend on other units to support them to fill in any gaps (much like Eldar Aspect Warriors). They enjoy, as of 8E, +1W and +1A relative to a regular marine, making them more durable and a lot more dangerous in melee combat.  Some of them wear [[Power_Armour#Mark_X:_Gravis_Armour|Mark X Gravis Armour]], for another +1T.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Captain|Primaris Captain:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Captains are the analogues of [[Space Marine]] Captains. They are decked out in the new Gravis Armor which somehow manages to be even &#039;&#039;MOAR&#039;&#039; egg-shaped than a [[Squat]] [[Hearthguard]]. They&#039;re armed with a mini-Gauntlet of Ultramar/Hand of Dominion (I.E. a three-shot bolt pistol built into a power fist) and a master-crafted power sword. Others use the Mark X Tacitus power armor and wield a power sword and their choice of Stalker Boltgun or Auto Bolt Rifle. There&#039;s also a plasma pistol and power fist model exclusive to Games Workshop stores celebrating their anniversaries. As of the Shadowspear Boxed Set, he can now be equipped with Phobos Armor (and presumably a Cameoline Cloak) for some sneaky breeki action.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Librarian|Primaris Librarian:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Just what it sounds like. Has a fancy-looking Force Sword.&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;Vanguard Librarian:&#039;&#039;&#039; A variant used by the Vanguard Primaris Marines. Has a camo-robe, just in case an 8 foot tall lightning-flinging, power armoured wizard needs to be subtle. Or maybe he&#039;s cosplaying as a Dark Angel, we don&#039;t know. In either case, he has a different set of powers that focus on making his allies even sneakier. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Chaplain|Primaris Chaplain:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Self-explanatory; they wear black robes as though they&#039;re aping on the [[Interrogator-Chaplain]]s. In battle, they wear an Iron Halo and carry a Crozius Arcanum alongside a specialized Absolver Bolt Pistol. To double down on the skull motif, their breastplate looks like a ribcage.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Lieutenant|Primaris Lieutenants:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; The Primaris Lieutenants are somewhere between a Captain and a Sergeant in rank, and are often the most experienced of a Primaris Squad. Their role is to take command of demi-companies when the Captain is absent, freeing Chaplains and Librarians to focus on their own specialties. Lieutenants are differentiated from their fellow marines by a red-on-white stripe on their helms. Some of them can be helmetless which often showcase an extreme amount of Hair-esy. They can either use a power sword or a master-crafted automatic version of the Bolt Rifle (shorter range and worse ap, but better rate of fire at long range, fireable after Advancing, and more damage per shot from being master-crafted).&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;Vanguard Lieutenant&#039;&#039;&#039;: Lieutenants of the Vanguard Primaris swap out their bolt rifles for an occulus bolt carbine that helps them pick off enemies from far away, and while they only use a basic combat knife they&#039;re surprisingly good with it. They can also deep strike via grav-chute like the Reivers. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Ancient|Primaris Ancients:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Primaris Marines dubbed honorable enough to have the privilege of carrying the Standard&#039;s Banner. Identifiable by their white helmets (although that could change depending on the Chapter), they are in no way related to another [[Tarkus|dude-clad-in-power-armor-wearing-a-white-helmet-that-also-comes-with-the-same-name-from-a-certain-WH40K-game]]. At least until he&#039;s been upgraded. In case you were wondering, &amp;quot;Ancient&amp;quot; is a corruption of the rank of &amp;quot;Ensign&amp;quot; which was a term for an army&#039;s flagbearer in the Middle Ages, so it has nothing to do with how old the Marine in question actually is.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Primaris Apothecary|Primaris Apothecary:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; A specialization of Primaris Marine first seen in artwork and promo photos, and now has rules and a model. Their left bracer appears to have a screen on it for monitoring lifesigns, and they have a pistol with a reductor built into it for geneseed removal (and the occasional puncturing of enemy skulls). The Narthecium attached to a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;cyberdong&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; mechadendrite on the Apothecary&#039;s back.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Primaris Techmarine:&#039;&#039;&#039; One of them acts as the pintle gunner for the Repulsor Tank. That&#039;s about all we know.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Reiver|Reivers:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Reivers are Space Marines created from the gene-seed of [[Sly Marbo]]. Think [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] in [[Power Armor]]. It&#039;s time to piss yourselves, [[Chaos Space Marines|traitorous scum.]] Reivers are the only true close-combat specialist Infantry for the Primaris and are pretty good at it overall. Compared to Intercessors they have a Combat Knife for another attack and an improved Bolt Pistol with greater Armour Penetration, and the ability to negatively effect enemy morale. They can be equipped for more ranged combat but that is not why you take them. They have Deep-Strike option like everyone else, but also a new grappling hook that allows them to both outflank and jump-up ruins like they&#039;re nothing. But arguably their biggest trump-card is their special grenade that causes effected units to lose both their overwatch and minus one to shooting. While not the most devastating CC unit in the game they make excellent back-field harassers and synergize wonderfully with the rest of your army with their ability to cripple enemy gun-lines.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Aggressor|Aggressors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Aggressors are basically Primaris [[Terminators]] mixed in with [[Centurion Squad|Centurions]], but with a 3+ save. They have an even more specialized Gravis armor, and either an automatic version of the Primaris Captain&#039;s Boltstorm Gauntlet paired with shoulder-mounted grenade launchers or a flamer-equipped version of said gauntlet dubbed the Flamestorm gauntlet. Regardless of what they&#039;re equipped with, they specialize in close-range firepower that obliterates light infantry.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Intercessor|Intercessors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Intercessors are the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;standard&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; SUPER bolter Marines, having most in common with a bare-bones tactical squad as they&#039;re armed with Primaris versions of the same things (such as their super bolters and Mk X armour). Compared to tacticals, they perform better in melee and have greater armour penetration on their basic weapons along with being more survivable, making them effective in a wider variety of situations. This is both a strength and a weakness, as while they may be bigger Jacks of all trades, they&#039;re even worse masters of nothing. Compared to Tacticals they have fewer weapon and transport options and only one type of heavy weapon choice. This might be part of the reason that other Primaris Marines are more specialized: to compensate/synergize. As Primaris specialists may be more vulnerable to heavy firepower and be fire-magnets, Intercessors with their flexibility they can more reliably protect other more valuable units and plug any holes that arise from specialist losses, or make themselves useful against any foe until the hard-hitting second wave arrives (being the most versatile as far as Primaris Marines go).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Inceptor|Inceptors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Inceptors are the &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Assault Marines]] equivalent&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; drop troops of the Primaris Marines and are equipped with a new pattern of Jump Packs, two Assault Bolters, which are basically sawn off Heavy Bolters, a pair of hand-portable Plasma Cannons, and a pair of [[Derp|absolutely ridiculous-looking shoe-shovels.]] Unlike Assault Squads, the Inceptors&#039; focus is on firepower and a pseudo Hammer of Wrath. This makes them closer in role to Assault Bikes as a fast moving strafing unit and harasser. They lack melee weapons of any kind; this doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t fight in melee, as their sheer weight allows them to crush their enemies to death, and they still have the statline of &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; Primaris marines along with being even tougher to hurt, making them not completely useless in a scrap. Don&#039;t get it in your head that their melee ability is &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;, though, or even decent, and only engage in melee if you have to; they do far better blowing things into tiny pieces.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Hellblaster|Hellblasters:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Hellblasters are Primaris Marines who make Flash Gitz green(er) with envy. They use [[Plasma#Plasma Incinerator|Plasma Incinerators]], enhanced Plasma Guns with longer range and armor piercing ability. Aside from that, there&#039;s nothing special about them as compared to &amp;quot;regular&amp;quot; Primaris marines. Very expensive and vulnerable to strong weapons, but they fuck up TEQs and can pose a threat to vehicles if they can get into Rapid Fire range, though outside of said range it&#039;s not as suicidal to unload a charged volley, so they can threaten vehicles there, too. Also, with the changes to how cover works, they are terrifying against cover campers. With how big a fire magnet these guys are, if you get these guys close to an expensive or dangerous vehicle or multiwound TEQs feel free to HELLBLAST them into oblivion in a suicide barrage. (That is, IF they&#039;re at risk of being wiped out or swarmed.)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Redemptor Dreadnought|Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; For no matter how great and glorious they may be, [[Grimdark|in the grim future even they are not immortal]]. Though how enough of these brand spanking-new Space Marines were curbstomped just enough to warrant Dreadnought status, we&#039;ll (probably) never know (hundreds of thousands of Primaris fighting in the over a century long indomitus crusade may be the answer). Times be desperate, yo. Probably because they&#039;re so hard to kill that just about all of them that couldn&#039;t be saved are made dread-ful. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Repulsor_Tank|Repulsor]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Repulsor is the standard transport and/or tank (nobody&#039;s entirely sure yet) of the Primaris Marines. Which is good for them, because they can&#039;t go inside standard Space Marine transports, including ones that can hold Terminators, Centurions, and (in 30k) even fucking &#039;&#039;Primarchs.&#039;&#039; There must be [[Profit|some mysterious force surpassing even the Emperor]] blocking the door - which also blocks the door on this thing if you try to convince a &#039;&#039;non&#039;&#039;-Primaris to go inside. Being a floating [[METAL BOXES|Metal Box]], it might be considered the spiritual successor to the [[Grav-Rhino]], if you covered said Grav-Rhino with missile pods everywhere, including on its rear and sides, put twin-linked lascannon in the front hull, and gave it what looks like a [[Fail|heavy stubber]] as a coaxial gun to go with the turret lascannon and pintle-mounted Gatling gun.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Overlord:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Overlord is the Primaris-exclusive dropship used to support the bigger frames of the Primaris Marines. You would think the [[Thunderhawk]] would be big enough for them, but it seems they are &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; [[Mary Sue|special]] to share the same vehicle with their smaller brothers. Anyways, the Overlord is noticeable for one thing. It is &#039;&#039;&#039;ECKS BAWKS HUEG&#039;&#039;&#039;, making a Thunderhawk look like a [[Stormtalon]] in comparison. In terms of specs, it is the [[Corvus Blackstar]] on steroids. Seriously, it has powerful quintuple engines and twinned hulls thick enough to permit insertion from orbit, like Thunderhawks or Stormbirds, and like Blackstars, Overlords possess twin transport bays with their own assault doors, but they&#039;re considerably bigger (they can carry up to 40 of your Chadmarines) and even more blessed with advanced technologies like fucking [[AWESOME|energy shields]] ([[Heresy|Guess Cawl kind of]] [[Blood Ravens|&#039;borrowed&#039;]] [[Extra Heresy|some of that sweet ass energy shields from the]] [[Eldar|pointy-eared gitz]]). Additionally, the Overlord is equipped with anti-munitions cannons, wing-mounted Desolator Lascannons, nose-mounted Melta Cannons and Heavy Bolters fixed on its lower wing surfaces. This thing is pretty much a flying [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)|Titan]] or an Imperial [[Manta]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Astraeus|Astraeus Super-Heavy Tank]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Surely the result of a grudging 3-way between a Mastodon, a Sicaran, and a somewhat reluctant Repulsor, the Astraeus is the first Primaris super-heavy tank (implying there will be more variants on the way) and looking to be an utter beast on the tabletop - it&#039;s armed with Land Raider style frontal Heavy Bolter mount, two front angled sponsons for Las-Rippers or Plasma Eradicators, topped with a turret mounted dual Macro-Accelerator Cannon. Given how expensive it is to field a decently kitted repulsor, it remains to be seen how viable it will be to concentrate so many points into one vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Vanguard Space Marines===&lt;br /&gt;
Apparently Guilliman and Cawl [[Stormcast Eternals|swapped notes]] with [[Sigmar]] when it came to organizing the Primaris forces. The Primaris of the Vanguard Space Marines are geared mainly towards guerilla warfare and infiltration.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Eliminator|Eliminators:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; Essentially power-armored sniper scouts equipped with exotic ammunition, or if you want to be a smart ass Primaris Sternguard with Scout Gear. [[awesome| Their Bolt weapons look like oversized G36s]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Infiltrator|Infiltrators:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; These appear to be the equivalents of the Intercessors, at least in the sense of being the standard Bolter-wielders. They appear to be using some kind of scoped Bolt Carbine variant and smoke grenades. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Suppressor|Suppressors:]]&#039;&#039;&#039; What you get when you cross an Inceptor with a Devastator. Those big autocannons are sure to make the [[Scourges]] jealous. Totally not based on the [[/a/|Zakus from Gundam]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
Crunch wise, Primaris Space Marines are about as physically dangerous as Space Marines are already supposed to be fluff-wise, so they get an additional Attack and an additional Wound; weapons which deal additional Wounds seem to be fairly common now, so while it might not be a big improvement it can still be helpful. However, they also have exclusive access to shiny new toys from Cawl, including a &amp;quot;basically Kraken&amp;quot; Bolter with +6&amp;quot; range and -1 AP, a Plasma gun with +6&amp;quot; range and -4 AP, and half-range [[AWESOME|one-handed Assault Heavy Bolters and Plasma Cannons. That they dual-wield. With jump packs.]] Defensively, so far only they have access to Gravis armor, which grants +1 Toughness (and even then only the Captain, Aggressors, and Inceptors can use it).  Finally, their squads don&#039;t mix weapon types, with all members carrying the same loadout; whether this will be a benefit or a downside relative to &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; marines being able to carry a mixed loadout remains to be seen with the other new rules in 8th, such as the ability of any squad to split its fire across multiple targets.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most of the Primaris units so far also cost nearly twice as many points as their older counterparts and have unit sizes no larger than a &amp;lt;del&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/del&amp;gt; 10 model maximum (including the Serge). This strongly suggests they will be more useful as a supplement to standard Marine forces than they might be as outright replacements; they&#039;re far too inflexible and expensive to be fielded effectively on their own, and their lack of melee specialists and access to weaponry with a range greater than 36&amp;quot; is a glaring flaw (for now) as well. And while their movement is no worse than any other Marine, for reasons that totally aren&#039;t financial in origin they can&#039;t take &#039;&#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039;&#039; transports usable by standard Marines. Not [[Rhino|Rhinos]], not [[Drop Pods]], not [[Land Raider|Land Raiders]], not even the motherfucking [[Mastodon]]. They can use the Thunderhawk, but odds are you&#039;re not going to have room for it in your standard 2000 points game, and even then, it has to be carrying only Primaris Marines (and in that case, it still can&#039;t carry too many). They have a special transport called a Repulsor (which is a [[Awesome|grav tank]]), which somehow can&#039;t carry non-Primaris, but besides that they have no choice but to go footslogging.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, single-model units can be astonishingly efficient - the most extreme case is the Primaris Librarian, who has a static, unchangeable loadout, but costs the exact same as a non-Primaris Librarian with the same loadout (a bolt pistol and Force Sword). &lt;br /&gt;
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Primaris armies can seem deceptively small, however, they have an incredible wound density. This makes your basic squads like Intercessors far more point efficient than Tactical Marines (since in 8th edition Tac Marines just kind of completely suck eggs), and are the better option when it comes to holding down homefield objectives. They&#039;re also by far some of the best bolter infantry available, with a number of advantages over basic Sternguard (though lacking access to combi-weapons). Other squads such as Hellblasters vs Devastators, Aggressors vs Terminators, etc. are less clear-cut, but overall the Primaris squads are more than able to carry their own weight, providing value in their role, sacrificing a little bit of flexibility for durability but not quite enough to make them Eldar-level cripples outside their niche.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rules Datasheets===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:New40kPrimarisCaptainAgainFull.jpg|Stats for the Captain. GW is being awfully generous with these datasheets.&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kIntercessorDatasheet.jpg|Behold the Intercessor Datasheet (thanks GW!).&lt;br /&gt;
File:New40kPrimarisInceptorVersion2Full.jpg|The Inceptor rules, sadly the shoe-shovels have no stats.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Hellblaster stats.jpeg|Hellblaster stats, because leaks are great for those on the outside.  Note how when their guns explode they die, rather than take damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
===Miniatures===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Captain1.jpg|A Primaris Captain channeling the [[meme|Juggernaut BITCH!]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:BirthdayPrimaris.jpg|The super-ultra-limited Primaris Captain.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Lieutenant1.jpg|Primaris Lieutenants, not quite butter bars, not quite seasoned&lt;br /&gt;
File:Ancient1.jpg|I am NOT [[Tarkus]]!&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPrimarisLibReveal1.jpg|Being a Librarian ain&#039;t easy.&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Chaplain8h-500x466.jpg|The Chaplain. Totally not [[Blizzard|Reaper from Overwatch]].&lt;br /&gt;
File:40kPreviewJuly23_Apothecary2n-500x461.jpg|The Apothecary.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Intercessor2.jpg|Super Smurfs!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Reivers.jpg|Surprise Motherfucker!!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Helblaster1.jpg|An entire &#039;&#039;squad&#039;&#039; of Super-Smurfs with upgraded Plasma Guns.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Inceptor1.jpg|Inceptors! Now capable of flying and skiing!&lt;br /&gt;
File:IMG-20171123-WA0005.jpg|Lieutenant Tolmeron pulling a charge pose with his saber. Now all you need to do is mount him on a horse and you&#039;re golden.&lt;br /&gt;
File:IMG-20171123-WA0002.jpg|Lieutenant Zakariah. Look at how smug his face is, like he has just &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;apprehended the Fallen &amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; CLEARED ALL HERETICS FROM THE SECTOR&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pictures===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Space_Marine_Squared.png|A Squad of Intercessors about to go to town on some greenskins. Aren&#039;t they beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Redemptor_Dreadnought.PNG|I HAVE LEGS! I HAVE FULLY ARTICULATED LEGS!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chad marine hover tank.png|Guilliman and Cawl have figured out how to build hover tanks once more!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aggressors.jpg|The Aggressors box.&lt;br /&gt;
File:PassiveAgressors.jpg|Passive Aggressors, ready to make catty remarks at the enemy&lt;br /&gt;
File:Chap&amp;amp;apoc.png|Grainy sighting of a Primaris Apothecary and Chaplain.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Assorted===&lt;br /&gt;
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File:PrimarisBigBoy.png&lt;br /&gt;
File:Adeptus Astronimus.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
File:PrimarisLightyear.jpg|Primaris Marine of the Galactic Rangers chapter.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Primaris_comparison.png|Numarine, the carefree playboy, and Oldmarine, the grizzled vigilante. [[Batman|Have you ever seen them in the same art together?]]&lt;br /&gt;
File:Primaris vs chaos by theangrymarine-dccr2jv.png|The new kid always gets picked on.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Primaris Marine-Forces}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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