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		<title>The Beast</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2601:1C0:5C80:28EF:4B9:35F6:B7DC:34B4: /* Fatal Flaw */&lt;/p&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;The Beast&#039;&#039;&#039; is one of the mightiest (if not THE mightiest) ork warbosses ever to ravage the galaxy, fought during [[The War of The Beast]]. It would not be unreasonable (if Heretical, unless you made it out as a disgusting parody of the proper order of things) to call him the &amp;quot;God-Emperor of Ork-manity&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Legend==&lt;br /&gt;
Back during The [[Forging]] (that is, the 32nd millennium), the [[Imperial Fists]] were idly slaughtering and driving to extinction an alien race when they found something flabbergasting (which in retrospect da alens might &#039;ave beeen tryin&#039; two dell da gitz): A HUGEASS WAAAGH!!! But it wasn&#039;t numbers alone that this ork threat represented, but also its organization and composition. The Beast leading it was &#039;&#039;ginormous&#039;&#039;, far bigger than good old [[Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka]], and his nobs were colossal and mighty foes. How large was the Beast, you ask? He is said to have been as large as a HAB-BLOCK, with a mouth filled with tusks the size of TREE TRUNKS and this could be due to the fact that he&#039;s the same breed as the ork warboss of Ullanor, who it took &#039;&#039;[[Horus|HORUS]] HIMSELF TO KILL&#039;&#039;. Hell, he was so huge that, when he first appears, the space marines sent to kill him mistake him for a stompa before they realize there&#039;s an ork in that plated armor. But simply being extremely big and incredibly strong was the least of what made him such a threat because, beneath all that armor and muscle, was a brain with the intelligence, the drive, the simple strength of will, and character to forge that race of fungoid space football hooligans into an actual goddamn army. Let that sink in for a moment...&lt;br /&gt;
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How big of a threat was The Beast? The [[Iron Warriors]] teamed up with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Imperial Fists&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[Black Templars]], of all people, and then later the [[Fists Exemplar]], both of them Imperial Fists successors, in order to fight him and his boyz. The fucking most bitter enemies in the galaxy who hated each other&#039;s guts, barring the [[Ultramarine]] fans versus the rest of the fandom &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;during 5th edition&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; at any time, teamed up together against him. Whole crusades were dedicated to halt them, the mightiest fleets since the days of the heresy were assembled. Tens of chapters were lost, annihilated by the green tide. The Imperial Fists UNITED as a whole legion in order to have a fighting chance and during the most heated point the [[Deathwatch]] was created.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let it sink in: the [[Deathwatch]], the prime alien hunters and the most proficient annihilators of xenos the Astartes and therefore the Imperium have ever produced, were created expressly as a last ditch effort to stop him. Fucking wow.&lt;br /&gt;
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And this, my friends, is why [[Kryptman]] really fucked up, because [[Octarius War|he just created a nursery for one of these things]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Assorted accomplishments from this dude include==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Making attack &#039;&#039;moons&#039;&#039;. Not Roks, like Thraka&#039;s. MOONS as a whole and in plural, that&#039;s a whole new level of [[looted|loot]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Making logistics and army structure on a sophisticated level.&lt;br /&gt;
**The thing goes beyond logistics and army structure. Can you guess what symbols they use? For tactically gifted gits they made them wear bloody axes, snakes for the... &amp;quot;herders&amp;quot;, and horns for their best shock troops. That is, Blood Axes, Snakebites, and Goffs. The space marines don&#039;t recognize these symbols despite there being Iron Warriors who&#039;ve fought during the crusade. Let it sink for a second: he laid the foundations for the Ork Klans. His legacy is still lasting til now as the great grand-daddy of all the orks in the current setting.&lt;br /&gt;
*Asswhooping dozens of chapters in unison.&lt;br /&gt;
*He fucking reached and BESIEGED Terra itself (We can only imagine [[Abaddon]] becoming so green with envy after hearing this that he could pass off for an Ork himself.).&lt;br /&gt;
*And, unlike Horus, he could have won if he hadn&#039;t backed up as he just had to crash his Attack Moon, GGWP Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
*He had ork DIPLOMATS. Just think about greenskins that are capable of more complex thoughts than &amp;quot;run/hide and then run and bash that asshat&#039;s cranium into pulp&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
**It goes far beyond that; the ork diplomat went to the Senatorum Imperialis itself. He put in evidence what ineffectual little pieces of trash most of the [[High Lords of Terra]] are while also giving one of the most deliciously effective insults ever thrown at mankind - &#039;&#039;he acted in a civilized way, offering surrender terms&#039;&#039;, confronting [[Skaven|a bunch of petty cowardly parasites who bickered among themselves like immature kids while trying to back-stab each other]]. The guy nailed it in a way not even the worst desecration made by Chaos could have hurt the imperials&#039; pride.&lt;br /&gt;
*His very presence was so overwhelming that he actually caused the entire Ork race to begin evolving on a cultural and biological level. Becoming more advanced and more potent psykers. Seriously- the Orks advanced so much under him that they had &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;technology&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; ambitions, aspirations, and the power of WAAAGH! that allowed them to rival the old Eldar. And they had began building an actual civilization on the worlds they controlled. Not just simple settlements, but an empire with advanced cities and even worlds given over to food production and industry.&lt;br /&gt;
*He was able to sicken the frigging Iron Warriors: when they went to [[Prax]], they found that the Orks had organized thousands of farms with BILLIONS of humans in there so warped by the WAAAAGH! they were devolved into the cattle they were being bred for. When you&#039;ve got a bunch like the Iron Warriors saying &amp;quot;It will be a mercykill&amp;quot;, you know you&#039;ve become a sick fuck of the highest order if other sick fucks are disgusted with you. And I remind you, this is the same legion that created the [[Daemonculaba]]. On the other hand, that might just have been because it wasn&#039;t Chaos&#039; quickery. If it had been caused by Chaos, they probably would have laughed at or jeered the victims. Or maybe [[Honsou]] is strangely sick.&lt;br /&gt;
*He had &#039;&#039;colonized&#039;&#039; Ullanor. The whole world was now sporting ork cities (and very well organized to boot) that would become killing zones for the invading forces. Secretly, the world had in fact been converted into a massive attack planet that was going to be used to defeat the imperium (think that attack planet in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, basically the same thing).&lt;br /&gt;
*He murderfucked the Ultramarines Chapter Master, the Crimson Fist&#039;s Chapter Master, crippled a blood angels captain and gave [[Vulkan|VULKAN]] of all people a tough fight. Normally, any of the aforementioned before would have sufficed to kill him yet it was a hell of a battle for the four previously mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
*Eradicated the [[Imperial Fists]], yes, this guy managed to do what no [[Abaddon|armless failure]] has ever accomplished in 10 millennia, killing a First Founding Chapter off for real.&lt;br /&gt;
*And the [[Sisters of Silence]]. May they rest in peace.&lt;br /&gt;
*And Vulkan too (temporally, as he is perpetual and all that stuff). Yes, another thing Abby could never do: kill a primarch (an orignal, at least). Considering the likes of [[Sigismund]] and [[Thalastian Jorus]] managed to mortally wound Abby, its highly unlikely he has it in him to stand against an actual son of the Emperor. (Does anyone else hear sobbing?)&lt;br /&gt;
*Holy Emperor this guy is the ultimate Hero Killer, look at his death tally, Daemon Primarchs got nothing on The Beast, he would have laughed off at their attacks before using any of them as shine cloth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Truly, this guy is the mightiest warboss ever and the WAAAGH! Beast reigns supreme as the biggest and meanest WAAAGH!, [[Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka]] be damned. The WAAAGH! energy that suffuses him makes him akin to a living Ork demi-god. Able to regenerate from wounds Vulkan inflicts on him and channel his WAAAGH! energy to power the Orks technology and fry space marines with ease. Insanely intelligent; possibly even a genius on a human scale. Him existing has triggered a reaction in the Ork genome leading the entire race to transform into coherency and become efficient and organised. Not simply improving tactically but biologically, technologically, psychically, and even culturally becoming more advanced. [[heresy |He&#039;s essentially their version of the Emperor]]  . This Ork is the eventuality of uncontested success for a singular Ork. So vastly different have the Ork become in nature that it is possible that they are evolving into the Krork.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and there were six of him, all so-called &amp;quot;Prime-Orks&amp;quot; (5 remain, since the Imperium managed to kill one), each an Orky version of the [[Primarch]]s, leading a Legion of Orks, which are heavily implied to be the Ork Clans. They worked seamlessly in unison, like [[Alpharius|the utterly]] [[Omegon|fictitious primarchs]] [[Alpha Legion|of an utterly fictitious legion]], achieving the same effect of everyone assuming there was only one of him. The extent to which he was a team, as opposed to [[Trazyn_the_Infinite|one ork with multiple bodies]], remains unknown. From what was revealed prior to their destruction the concept of the Prime-Orks (some may say Primorks, hur hur) is similar to the Emperor and his Primarchs. With one standing dominant as the beast-of-beasts with the lesser beasts being the leaders of his forces. Though all are basically Ork demi-gods in their own right and some of the most powerful beings in the setting. While unfortunately the series really didn&#039;t flesh out the majority of them as it focused almost solely on the dominant Primork: only 2 of them are seen in the series, the rest are killed off-screen, and of those 2 one&#039;s purpose was just to randomly appear at the end of book ten to be killed. Though it gives some foreshadowing of how powerful individual Orks can truly become and that their kind may appear again in the M41.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and one more thing: the Orkish phrase for the Beast&#039;s title is &amp;quot;Mag Uruk Thraka&amp;quot;. Ghazghkull may not be at the Beast&#039;s level of power yet, but the parallels are definitely there.&lt;br /&gt;
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New rumors about 8th edition ork codex suggest Ghazzy might be elevated to fully fledged Primork status. Take it with a grain of slat or leave it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fatal Flaw==&lt;br /&gt;
However, for all its strength, the Beast also actually creates a natural (and very easy to exploit) weakness in Orks. As a result of how successful the Beast&#039;s Waaagh! was, the Boyz within it are supercharged with Waaagh! Energy, a volatile thing at the best of times. Even the use of only a handful of [[Sisters of Silence]] and a Weirdboy has the power to set off a chain reaction strong enough to do anything, from wiping out all five Beasts at once to killing an entire planet of Orks. This is questionable from fluff consistency perspective at best as WAAAGH!!! energy seem to be switching (at a given writers whim) from being kind of warp energy (that Sisters can nullify) to being something totally different (for example psykers, daemons and psychic nulls have no impact on Ork teknology that is in essence powered by WAAAAGH!!! energy). But than again when was WH40k lore consistent.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this weakness, the conflict against the Beast was desperate due to the Imperium only having a very small number of Sisters of Silence to help them, and only then because Vulkan asked them to. While the Sisters&#039; numbers have been restored in the 41st Millenium, the more immediate threat of Chaos following the formation of the Great Rift may still compromise their ability to respond to any would-be successor, that being said while orks without limit it would still take a hell of a long time for them to get that strong. [[Tuska Daemonkilla|Why you would need to be fighting 24 hours a day, seven days, a week for more then a few century&#039;s, all without dying for that to happen, what are the odds of any ork living that long?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Ork-Gitz}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>T-72</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:T-72 Tank.jpg|300px|right|thumb|For the glory of slav-kind!]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{topquote|We will bury them!|Rhino tank,Red Alert 2 }}&lt;br /&gt;
The T-72 is Soviet second generation MBT employed by a variety of nations. In classic Russian fashion, it is rugged, relatively easy to produce, and simple enough that any soviet peasant can hop in and spread the revolution with utmost efficiency. The T-72 incorporates some of the latest advances in Soviet weapons technology, mouning an auto loading 2A46 125mm main gun, which is capable of firing fin stabilized ammunition, and protected by BDD composite armor, similar to the Chobham armor used on western tanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In Team Yankee==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:T-72 Stat Card.jpg|300px|left|thumb|The Stat Card]]&lt;br /&gt;
The T-72 is a decent MBT for the Red Army.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lets start with the boomstick. The T-72 mounts a 125mm 2A46 gun which is quite capable of punching through early model NATO Main Battle tanks and stands a decent chance of damaging later models with it&#039;s AT value of 22, and with the FP of 2+, practically anything you penetrate you are going to blow up. It&#039;s also rather good at dealing with unarmored targets like infantry and light vehicles as the &#039;&#039;Brutal&#039;&#039; rule means that they have to re-roll their successful saves. The T-72 can fire on the move with near impunity as the stabilizer negates the negative effects of moving and the laser rangefinder negates the penalties of firing on the move. The only downside is the fact that the 2A46 only has a ROF of 1, both halted and on the move, which means that you must mass tanks to mass fire. Oh, there is also a pair of machine guns; one 12.7mm AA mounted on a pintle and a 7.62mm mounted coaxially.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s when the T-72 begins taking fire rather than dishing it out that things can get a bit dicey. The Frontal armor only has a rating of 16, just one more than the front armor of a [[M60 Patton]], and the sides have a rating of 8. Most NATO AT weapons will bend you over with very little effort. Things do get a little better as the T-72 is equipt with BDD armor, which bumps the side armor up to 13 against things with HEAT. Even still, the T-72 will struggle against well dug in opponents. While immune to LAWs, they will suffer from serious anti-tank shots (like the SMAW) to the side.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have not mentioned the best part yet though, You can take a minimum company of 3 T-72s for 12 points. That&#039;s right, you can take 3 top of the line MBTS for only one more point than it costs for a [[Leopard 2]]. You can increase the company size up to ten T-72s for 5 points each. What this means is that you can effectively overwhelm the enemy with walls of stronk soviet steal, destroying all that lay in your path and spreading the revolution to the oppressed workers of the word.&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember: quantity has a quality all its own.&lt;br /&gt;
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==IRL==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:T-64 IRL.jpg|300px|right|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Like many Soviet tanks, the T-72 is among the most massively-produced post-WWII tanks out there, seeing service in many countries outside Soviet borders. Like all things Soviet, its chief features are cost-effective design and simple but efficient lethality. Even while the modern Russian Army has replaced the venerable T-72 with newer tanks (namely the T-90, which is basically just a T-72 with more current weapon systems), the T-72 is still solid enough that it has been repurposed for a wide variety of combat roles that it wasn&#039;t originally designed for, including the [[wikipedia:BMPT_Terminator|BMPT Terminator]] used for urban pacification (and simultaneously sporting one of the most menacing names for a tank ever), or the [[wikipedia:TOS-1|TOS-1]] 30-rocket MRLS. If your confused by that and remember T-72&#039;s getting Roflstomped during the gulf war, the answer is that those were [[T-72M]] which are the export version of the T-72 and were not as advanced as the ones used by the Russian army and eastern bloc nations proper along with the reported inability of Middle Eastern armies in mastering the art of Soviet Doctrine (AKA Attack Move) (or any doctrine, really. Read some books about Arab-Israeli wars, they are so one-sided it&#039;s not even funny). Well the Republican Guard of Iraq did actually have sound defensive tactics but ultimately were overwhelmed by M1 Abrams tanks rushing over their defensive positions.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a bit of an old wives&#039; tale regarding the T-72&#039;s and other Russian tank&#039;s autoloaders: namely that it&#039;s autoloader would every so often accidentally eat the Gunner&#039;s arm. This is a myth likely originating from  Bryan Perrett&#039;s &amp;quot;Soviet armour since 1945&amp;quot; that haven&#039;t been true of the T-64&#039;s even when they were new as they simply wouldn&#039;t have been entered production otherwise. While yeah, T-64&#039;s were more complex and therefore less reliable compared to T-72, broken thread, suspension system or engine is one thing, but dead or seriously injured gunner is another. Let me give an example: in 1941 the Red Army had a grenade named RG-41, and it was more than a match to more common RGD-33, weighting less while having the same amount of explosives. The only problem was its safety system: if you fucked up the initiation sequence (and it was not as simple as &amp;quot;pull the pin&amp;quot;) and it malfunctioned, that baby could blow in your hands right in the moment you were about to throw it. After less than &#039;&#039;a dozen&#039;&#039; recorded incidents (and mind it, not a word in press or anything!), soldiers simply stop using those grenades, preferring to throw RGDs-33 or not using anything at all, which lead to RG-41 quickly being replaced with much safer RG-42. [[Chaos_Space_Marines|A tank that can bite your arm off is a very, very bad thing for morale, and no one in the right mind would sit in it, am I right?]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Incidentally: the T-72 was not the most modern tank in the Soviet Arsenal by the time of Team Yankee 1985 start date for world war three. That title belongs to the conspicuously absent [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-80 T-80], first introduced in 1976, well in time for this &#039;dust up&#039;. Expect a future update to team Yankee to have the Soviets get a new toy for its armed forces, and for its players to buy.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}&lt;br /&gt;
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