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Judge Dredd

2016-11-19T23:16:42Z

2601:44:0:67BF:ED:F2E4:8844:5B57: /* In Gaming */

[[Image:Tour of duty backlash.jpg|frame|He's tough, but fair.]]
''I AM THE LAW!''

''"Justice is incidental to law and order.''"

— J. Edgar Hoover

'''Judge Joe Dredd''' is the lead character from the same-named comic that has been printed in the British comic magazine ''2000 AD'' since 1977. The comic is set 122 years into the future, by which time most of the world has been blown to fuck and the remains of humanity are packed into massive "mega-cities" where all law enforcement and justice is carried out by "Judges:" supercops who act as judge, jury and, oh yes, executioner. Over the years Dredd has dealt with robot uprisings, mile-tall habitation blocks trying to kill each other, [[Communism|dirty commies]], rampaging [[Neckbeards|fatties]], interdimensional horrors, [[mutant]]s, [[psyker|psychics]], [[xenos|aliens]], zombies and other crazy shit. The series is simultaneously [[grimdark]], silly and just plain [[awesome]].

Hence, /tg/ fucking ''LOVES'' Judge Dredd. If you're trying to present an oppressive, dystopian science fiction setting, but you don't want to get ''too'' serious, read some Judge Dredd.

Two movies have been made. The first came out in 1995 and starred Sylvester Stallone and Rob fucking Schneider. While it got a lot of the visuals right, its soundtrack is pretty cool and even featured an ABC robot (from ''ABC Warriors'', another ''2000 AD'' title), the rest was just plain awful, and should only be watched if one wants to see Stallone's hammy performance or for [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaubVlhNK4 the giggles] and a solid soundtrack from Alan Silvestri. Judge Dredd's creator John Wagner fucking hated it. The second came out in 2012 and is better. While the visuals have been toned-down and is a lot more [[grimdark]] than in the comics, the feel and spirit is much more true to the source. Go see it. GO FUCKING SEE IT!!!!

== In Gaming ==

Judge Dredd and its fellow ''2000 AD'' titles have been a huge influence on British science fiction and gaming over the last 30 years. [[Warhammer 40,000]] owes much of its background to ''2000 AD''; just look at the [[Adeptus Arbites]] for one of the more obvious influences (to drive the point home, [[Sandy Mitchell]]'s [[Ciaphas Cain]] series mentions an Imperial holo-vid character by the name of "Arbitrator Foreboding"). In fact, [[Games Workshop]] put out a Judge Dredd [[board game]] in 1982, a RPG in 1985, and the skirmish game ''Block Mania'' in 1987. The rules for Block Mania can be found [http://www.2000ad.org/images/games/blockwar.pdf here].

Years later, [[Mongoose Publishing]] picked up the license and put out a [[d20 System|d20]] RPG in 2002 and then another in 2009, this time using their version of the [[Traveller]] system. They've also produced a miniatures game and have released the rules for free. [http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/us/miniatures/judge-dredd.html Check it out.]

In the intervening time, [[WizKids]] made a few Judge Dredd and other ''2000 AD'' minis for the [[HeroClix]] "Indy" expansion.

Warlord Games has the license to produce a wargame in the Judge Dredd universe.

In the grand tradition of [[/tg/ gets shit done|getting shit done]], /tg/ has begun work on a homebrew system called ''Judgement Time''. In true Judge Dredd spirit, Frowning is a mechanic. The thread can be found [http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/21107341/ here].

And finally, in the many years of [[Alignment]] discussion and bickering, Dredd himself has been declared the absolute embodiment of [[Lawful Neutral]]. If he catches someone breaking the law for ''ANY'' reason, they're going down. No exceptions. Stealing to feed your kids? Theft. Digging your way out of the undercity to escape a monster? Destruction of city property. Organizing a children's choir to sing "Happy Birthday" for Judge Dredd? Noise violation. ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You#Copyright_status also, possible copyright infringement]. Now in the public domain!) Off to the iso-cubes, lawbreaker.

Take it with a pinch of salt however, what keeps Dredd from being [[Lawful Stupid]], is how he doesn't just ignore the circumstances, he'll make sure your kids end up in a foster home or temporary orphanage where they won't starve (or more likely the Judge academy), he'll find where those monsters are coming from and plant a Hi-ex round in their scaly foreheads and he'll.....well, okay the last one is probably him being grumpy, as usual. He will also always use the right amount of force for the job so wouldn't just shot some Jaywalker. This prevents him from becoming a caricature and puts him firmly in the category of both physical and moral [[awesome]], the comics themselves also deal with the moral issues of judges and the law far better than one would expect, as well as putting the cast through some major shit such as the amazing 'America' story-arc, and the recent [[grimdark|'Day of Chaos']] event, all show that John Wagner has more balls than Frank Miller could hope to have in his entire lifetime.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Image:DreddDisappoint.png
Image:Dredd Wupped Batman's Ass.jpg|I wupped Batman's ass.
Image:Urban.png|Karl Urban demonstrates proper frowning technique.
Image:Judgement Time.jpg|''Your sentence will never end, it's Judgement Time!''
</gallery>

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Iron Warriors

2016-11-19T23:04:50Z

2601:44:0:67BF:ED:F2E4:8844:5B57: /* The War of the Beast */

{{Infobox Traitor Legion
|Name = Iron Warriors
|Heraldry = [[File:Ironwarriorslogo.png|250px]]
|Battle Cry = <strike>"Iron Within, Iron Without!"</strike> '''EVEN I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET INSIDE THIS ONE!'''
|Number = IV
|Primarch = [[Perturabo]]
|Original Homeworld = Olympia
|Current Homeworld = Medrengard
|Champion = Possibly [[Honsou]] But most likely [[Shon'tu]]
|Specialty = Artillery and offensive siege warfare
|Strength =
|Allegiance = [[Chaos Undivided]]
|Colours = Black, gold, silver
}}

''"One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic."''<br>
- Joseph Stalin

The '''Iron Warriors''' are a bunch of badass pricks, who are also robotic. They enjoy torturing, maiming, and burning down their old shit. Nobody at [[games Workshop|GW]] can decide on how they want to portray the Legion, like we care what they think anyway. They also have a fetish for hazard stripes, which they make liberal use of in their colour scheme. It is as though they wish to say "do not use the side of my bolter as a step" or "touching my pauldron may result in crushed fingers." Then again, [[Chaos|considering who these guys are]], these would actually be good warnings to heed.

==Combat Tactics==
A [[Chaos]] [[Space Marines|Legion]] specializing in breaking sieges (as in, taking a fortified location, though logically this should mean that they can do this ''and'' break out of a siege) which is shown in their love of artillery and greater focus on ranged combat, which stands in contrast to the other Chaos Space Marine legions who are [[Rip and tear|far more disposed to melee combat]] (that doesn't mean that Iron Warriors won't punch a few skulls out, though!). Their troops are excellent close-range fighters and close-quarters combatants, and they often make use of special weaponry.

Iron Warriors are also fond of using hordes of human conscripts as cannon fodder, no doubt recruited from conquered worlds and slave populations on Medrengard. The conscripts are described as wearing red uniforms and bits of black armor, and armed with assorted bolt action rifles, lasguns, and autoguns. The Iron Warriors basically zerg-rush thousands of them at enemy strongholds to play fun games such as "find the minefield", "absorb the gunfire" and "reveal the artillery emplacements". They are one of the few Chaos legions that do take prisoners, but only to send then in the first wave instead of their conscripted slaves, who are considered to be slightly more valuable due to their ability to dig decent trenches and mines.

They also have a lot of [[Obliterators]], which are a bunch of muscle blobs armed to the teeth on top of their heads (being Chaos guys, they have shit like that). Literally. They themselves are a walking arsenal, because they can '''MAKE WEAPONS OUT OF THEIR BODIES!'''

Iron Warriors are also the batshit insane sickfucks behind the [[Daemonculaba]]. They're the only [[Chaos Space Marines]] who don't break down in maniacal laughter constantly, as they see this as a sign of weakness. They're not terribly fond of Daemons (like the [[Word Bearers]] or the [[Black Legion]] are), though they will make use of them (unlike the [[Night Lords]] who don't even like Chaos), and they aren't [[Alpharius|closet loyalists]] like the [[Alpha Legion]].

[[File:Iwdread.jpg|450px|left|thumb|What do you mean I've shot the wrong spot!?]]

==History==
Back in the old pre-Heresy days, no legion ever got shit on more than them. It started promising for a tiny bit at the start when Emps led them, but when Horus took over they got assigned all the [[Death Korps of Krieg|dirty, exhausting trench and ditch fighting]], and got no respect for it. There is a passage when, whilst shoveling up earthworks in preparation for the Drop Site Massacre, one of the Sons of Horus literally turns to one of the Emperor's Children and asks, "Hey, why aren't the Iron Warriors doing this."

Even when they were rejoined by their [[Perturabo|Primarch]], it didn't get any better. In fact, it was that moment things started going downhill. When united with his legion for the first time, he looked upon them and saw that they were not [[Ultramarines|all they could be]] and so he decided that they needed a bout of [[Blam|decimation]] to motivate them properly. So he had 10% of his entire legion [[grimdark|beaten to death]] without honour.

This actually worked and changed the character of the legion from "work-horse" legion to "meat grinder" legion; Perturabo's trick taught them that casualties do not matter, only victory does. They became a legion of [[neckbeards|mathematicians]], where battle strategies could be determined using formula based on available weaponry and expected attrition rates. Fortunately for them, Perturabo was expertly skilled with [[Roboute Guilliman|numbers and logistics]] and organised his legion extremely efficiently, therefore his legion was able to absorb such losses due to maintaining very high numbers, second only to the [[Ultramarines|XIIIth Legion]]. In fact they could have possibly overtaken any other legion in numbers if they did not continually suffer such high casualty rates.

This casual attitude towards attrition unfortunately created an atmosphere of paranoia amongst the officer cadre, where the only way to guarantee survival is to get promoted into a position of usefulness. Therefore their officers suffered incredible [[Nerdrage]] whenever things did not go according to plan and [[That Guy|scrambled over each other]] attempting to gain the attention of their superiors.

Also, their reputation suffered amongst the allied Imperial Army auxilia, who gave the Iron Warriors the nickname ''Corpse Grinders'', as units that were assigned to them tended to get used as cannon fodder for softening up the enemy. This tendency eventually led to the [[Administratum|Council of Terra]] to only assign the Iron Warriors support from penal brigades of poor quality expendable troops, causing the reputation of the Legion to spiral further downwards.

This new-and-improved attitude still didn't endear them to their brother legions, it was this complete lack of anything remotely resembling respect from anyone at all that was the final factor in [[Perturabo|their primarch flipping his lid]].

===Iron Cage===
Taking inspiration from their primarch, they display great facility in setting traps. The most notable of which was the "Iron Cage incident" where the Iron Warriors built a twenty square kilometer fortress on Sebastus IV at the close of the [[Horus Heresy]], with a massive fortified bunker at the center. They leaked information that allowed the [[Imperial Fists]] to track them there and [[Rogal Dorn]] himself promised to bring back Perturabo in "an iron cage". The Fists assaulted the fortress, taking huge casualties in doing so as the Iron Warriors fell back to split their advance and draw them into kill zones. Eventually the Fists expended all their ammunition and resorted to knife-fighting. When the Fists finally broke through to the central bunker, they discovered it empty save for the numerous inward-pointing guns designed to kill anyone who breached it. The entire purpose of the fortress was just to bait and exhaust the Imperial Fists' forces, turning their own legendary determination into a liability that lead to their own deaths and the humiliation of their legion (albeit one that would have required the death of Perturabo to completely wipe them out, if you believe those corpsefuckers' propaganda). [[Just As Planned]]. While the Iron Cage incident was the most notable, the Iron Warriors do plenty of other things like that, but on a smaller scale, such as firing fixed position guns into civilian habitation blocks to bait the enemy into counter-attacking, then evacuating through underground trenches and detonating pre-rigged explosives when the opposing forces reach the fixed gun emplacements.

===The War of the Beast===
This little incident that made the Ullanor Crusade look like a skirmish brought out some unusual behavior from the Iron Warriors. First of all, the threat posed by the orks against the galaxy was so great, that the Iron Warriors allied with the Imperial Fists, of all people. If that weren't out of character enough for them, they also found the orks' use of humans as literal cattle [[what|disgusting]]. Maybe the whole Daemonculaba thing was also too disgusting for them since Honsou hadn't been around at the time, maybe even the Iron Warriors have standards when it comes to human experimentation...or maybe the [[C.S. Goto|writer just didn't know jack shit about the Iron Warrior's character]]. It's probably that last one.

Honsou wasn't around at the time and Warsmith Kalkator, the leader of the Grand Company, was a firm anti-Chaos Warsmith- so he would have also been disgusted at the daemonculaba. It should also be noted Warsmith Kalkator's Grand Company operated away from the other Iron Warriors in the Eye of Terror and kept his own 'mini empire.' It wasn't like he isn't above doing horrible shit, as he was introduced gunning down his own human forces as they were being overrun by the orks. Aka how Iron Warroirs SHOULD be- stone cold pragmatics.

Also he would be the first person to get a space Marine chapter to turn traitor since the Heresy

==Iron Warriors Today==

[[File:A0e8a4e378bf013aade7393f60d8b20a.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Iron Within... You. 'Cause I shot you with my big ass [[Autocannon]].]]

They used to be incredibly badass with special rules for having more heavy weapon options including tanks and artillery but [[Gav_Thorpe|Gav Thorpe]] (who's basically [[Matt_Ward|Matt Ward's husband]]) decided that spikey marines should be inferior to loyalists in every way possible.

The Iron Warriors have been one of the more popular legions in fluff over the past few years. While some have put this down to them being 'grittier' or more realistic than the others, the truth is probably more functional then fanciful: The Iron Warriors are for the most part ''not'' gibbering madmen. This might seem a dumb reason but it's actually important. To write a good character they need to make sense to the reader, even when we don't agree with them we need to understand why they want to do it. The other legions kinda lack that. Why did you attack that planet? 'Because it turns me on' doesn't really make for an interesting character, nor does being told to by demons, wanting to kill everything all the time or just really digging dead stuff. So that leaves the Iron Warriors as being just about the only generally sane legion who do things for reasons normal people can understand.

[[Graham McNeill]] wrote a book that was mostly about them. Called 'Storm of Iron', surprisingly, and it featured a boatload of Imperial Fists, Iron Warriors (surprisingly) and a whole load of dickery, including traitorous techpriests, countless rows of geneseed (not being used to make more Speehs Mehreens, unsurprisingly. <--- Why WH40K's so [[Grimdark]]), and a daemon prince. To cap it all off, this is where [[Honsou]] gets his start. Last but not least, countless Imperial Guard and Titans.
...Tell me again why the Imperials lost? There was a traitor on the inside, and about fifty thousand tons of badass at the gates. Baaaad combination. (McNeill then wrote a [[Horus Heresy]] prequel called 'Angel Exterminatus', featuring Fulgrim being an even bigger dick than usual and an Iron Hands Professor Farnsworth.)

Even Ward seems to think they're cool, as he has Warsmith [[Shon'tu]] one-up both Honsou and Abaddon. How? He Invades Terra! He teams up with Be’lakor (yeah, the same guy from Fantasy battles) and use Phalanx's warp door (yeah remember that from the Soul Drinkers book) to invade it hoping to take it over and bomb the Emperor's palaces. Even the combined plot armor of the Imperial Fists AND the [[Legion of the Damned]] is still just barely enough to force a stalemate.

John French, on the other hand, doesn't seem to like them much at all. This is a shame since they tend to be his go-to antagonists.

Anyway, here is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ghs6p8inY their theme], done by [[HMKids]], which includes in the lyrics quotes from Dawn of War Chaos Space Marines for extra-flavour! They are METAL indeed!

The German Death Metal band "Debauchery" also wrote a song and video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dqkmPI2JlM], and it is badass.

==Iron Warriors Character==

Personality-wise, the Iron Warriors are one of the most…unpleasant Traitor Legions. When the Iron Warriors go to war, everyone is expendable. Eve-ry-one. Back in the days of the Great Crusade they spent Astartes lives like bolter rounds, human lives like <s>lasbolts</s> autogun bullets, and they haven’t got better with time. Their pure, unadulterated contempt for life is such that, in the Siege of Castellax, they refer to their mortal servants simply as “flesh,” and place orders for more like fast food (battalions 3-5 were wiped out today. I’ll have four more, to go, and hold the pickles). Speaking of food, when rations started to get low, the Iron Warriors started feeding their people [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green the rendered down remains of the dead]. Yeah. [[Such is life on Volg|Unpleasant]].

The Iron Warriors are basically the very epitome of the bad boss trope. The Night Lords may send the populations of entire worlds to the skinning pits just for shits and giggles (and record it all for future shits and giggles), but even they usually respect their valuable servants, enough to even sometimes exchange friendly banter with them.

==Daily Routines==
04:00 - The Iron Warriors emerge from their artillery battery and siege tanks.

04:20 - Morning Maintenance Rituals. The Iron Warriors than start to maintain their machinery and weapons so they are in top notch to break down any fortifications.

05:00 - Morning Prayers. The Iron Warriors begin to pray to all four Chaos Gods. They are shorter than the Word Bearers and Black Legion as they only view Chaos as a weapon they can use, thus each prayer to each God lasts only 30 minutes.

07:00 - Morning Firing Rites. The Iron Warriors begin test firing their artillery and siege weaponry at captured civilians or even other Iron Warriors who are disgraced.

10:00 - Battle Practice. The Iron Warriors descends in a cage to fight. Servitors are used as normal people are too squishy and slow for the Iron Warriors to effectively fight.

12:00 - Tactical Indoctrination. The Iron Warriors gather to see which fortifications to destroy and which monument to [[Rogal Dorn]] to defile.

13:00 - Afternoon Wargames. The Iron Warriors set up [[Miniatures|miniature pieces representing their forces on an open table with complex rules and dices to test each other on strategic and combat play.]] [[Perturabo]] joins in the fun. An ancient Terran snack known as 'Doritos' are bought by the dozen and is complemented by an equally ancient Terran beverage known as 'Mountain Dew'.

14:00 - First Evening Meal. A feast is prepared by the legion's serf. Due to long hours without eating, some Iron Warriors have instead started to already eat some parts of their serfs (Usually a limb or two) to satisfy their hunger.

15:00 - Evening Firing Rites.

18:00 - Combat Practice.

20:00 - Secondary Evening Meal. Another feast is prepared by the legion's serf. Those serfs who have parts of their bodies eaten by hungry Iron Warriors are gifted bionic implants to make them useful again.

21:00 - Evening Wargames.

22:00 - Bitching at the Imperial Fists. A period is held for the Iron Warriors to bitch and moan about the [[Imperial Fists]] and why they can't wait to tear down Rogal Dorn's statue on Terra. Sometimes [[Perturabo]] joins in the bitching.

23:00 - Evening Maintenance Rituals.

24:00 - Rest Period. The Iron Warriors rest inside their artillery and siege vehicles.

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