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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius by noldofinve-d4xpxx5-5157.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|Look, if I HAD to bang a dude...just sayin&#039;...]]&lt;br /&gt;
-Joseph Campbell&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- William Shakespeare&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Papa Sang&#039;&#039;&#039;) was (and that &#039;was&#039; is quite significant) the [[Primarch]] of the [[Blood Angels]] [[Space Marine]] [[Chapter]]. He was notable for the fuckhueg angel-like wings that mutated out of his back during his childhood on his home planet, [[Baal]], as well as his heroic deeds during the [[Great Crusade]]. Unfortunately, Sanguinius was slain by [[Horus]] during his eponymous [[Horus Heresy|Heresy]], though it is widely believed that it was Sanguinius&#039; weakening of the Arch-Traitor which made it possible for the [[Emperor]] to shut Horus&#039;s big, stupid, [[heresy]]-spewing mouth once and for all, and thus save mankind from the clutches of [[Chaos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Origins==&lt;br /&gt;
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Like the rest of the Primarchs, Sanguinius was bio-engineered on [[Terra]] to serve as a general in the [[Emperor]]&#039;s armies, and was stolen in his infancy and carried away across the galaxy by daemonic agents of [[Chaos]] in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts to unite humanity. Landing on [[Baal]], he was found by the Folk of the Blood, a local tribe who raised him to manhood. They were going to kill him for being a mutant, but when it became clear that Sanguinius was a badass warrior-prodigy the likes of which they&#039;d never seen, they decided he was worth keeping. After all, Sanguinius was actually a pretty nice guy for [[Warhammer 40,000|40k]], and he was pretty handy at fighting off those other mutants that kept attacking them from Baal&#039;s radioactive deserts, which he could walk through without any protection. As such, Sanguinius quickly ascended as a leader among the tribes of Baal and drove back the hordes of mutants threatening their hold on the world, eventually attaining a near god-like status among the planet&#039;s denizens. &lt;br /&gt;
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After the Emperor found Baal and bade Sanguinius to assume his rightful place among his armies, Sanguinius wept a single tear of joy because he&#039;s manly enough to be in touch with his feelings, and bowed before teh Emprah. (Of the [[canon|canonical]] Space Marines, his chapter is to this day one of the most batshit-loyal to the Emperor.) The greatest of Sanguinius&#039; tribal warriors were extended the honor of joining the [[Space Marines|Adeptus Astartes]], and were thereafter implanted with the gene-seed drawn from Sanguinius&#039; genome. These men became the first members of the ninth Space Marine legion to be founded, and the [[Blood Angels]] were born.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:7d9a85e6e4a368bb435e943fc891a25b.jpg|thumbnail|right|250px|Sanguinius (left) and Horus whooping some ass together before SOMEBODY had to go and damn the Imperium to an eternity of [[Grimdark|war, cultural stagnation and paranoia]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Joining the [[Great Crusade]], Sanguinius became best buds with fellow Primarchs [[Horus]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Rogal Dorn]]. Ironically (and later, tragically), his friendship with Horus is said to have been closer than that of any of the other Primarchs. Which, this being 40k, went straight to hell when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. He was easily the most [[Pretty Marines|fabulous]] of all the Emperor&#039;s generals; he wore a glowing, ornate set of golden artificer armor adorned with huge rubies which represented Terra, Baal, and Baal&#039;s moons, and his magnificent white wings would spread behind him as he took to the skies of the battlefield. At the same time, he gave the impression that he&#039;d be happy to cast off his finery, whereas Fulgrim would rather die. Basically, in Sanguinius&#039; case, [[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] abandoned all pretense of being subtle about the whole &amp;quot;the Emperor is God, the primarchs are the archangels, and Horus is Lucifer&amp;quot; thing—like, to the point that Sanguinius became known simply as &amp;quot;The Angel&amp;quot; among the armies of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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Though not first in favor among the Emprah&#039;s Primarchs (that position belonged to Horus, pre-heresy), [[Magnus the Red|or the biggest psychic powerhouse]], [[Roboute Guilliman|or the best at empire-building]], [[Lorgar|or even the one who looked most like Dad]], Sanguinius was said to have the best &#039;&#039;blend&#039;&#039; of the Big E&#039;s attributes. And while a lot of the Space Marine legions and their generals fought in the Great Crusade just for the sake of glory and a good battle, Sanguinius and his Blood Angels fought for what the Emperor himself did: [[Noblebright|a better galaxy, a peaceful galaxy, one where humanity would be united, happy, and prosperous]]. During the Crusade, the Blood Angels formed a friendly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] legion (yet another relationship the Horus Heresy would royally buttfuck), because both were noted for being assault-oriented shock troops; however, while the World Eaters were straight-up lunatics in combat, the Blood Angels&#039; ferocity was mitigated when it needed to be by Sanguinius&#039; wisdom. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also everyone loved the guy. Literally, even at the depths of his heresy Horus wished Sanguinius was one of his generals. [[meme|And he was a good guy who doesn&#039;t afraid of anything]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Signus Prime and Ka&#039;Bandha===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Signusianclash.jpg|thumb|left|400px|&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Awesome|If you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguinius who threw you back.]]&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; —Sanguinius, taking a small moment to deliver this line after decapitating a [[Keeper of Secrets]] and [[rip and tear|&amp;quot;relieving&amp;quot;]] [[Khorne]]&#039;s mightiest servant of his wings, and just generally setting the stage for Ka&#039;Bandha&#039;s future [[butthurt]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point during the Great Crusade, Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were tasked by Warmaster Horus with reclaiming the Signus Cluster from a supposed [[xenos]] infestation and liberating the humans there from their oppressors. However, when they arrived, they found that the entire system had been consumed by the evil influence of the [[Chaos Gods]], and specifically a [[Keeper of Secrets]] calling itself Kyriss the Perverse. (This was actually a trap set by Horus in an attempt to eliminate Sanguinius early on because he feared him more than any of his other fellow Primarchs. What a pussy.) Long story short, the Blood Angels were stranded in-system, caught off guard and lost a lot of Marines, ships &amp;amp; crew, but eventually regrouped and conquered the armies of cultists and Chaos [[daemons]] in the Signus system. Kyriss even manifested on the bridge of the Red Tear, Blood Angels flagship, from the frames of eight servitors to taunt Sanguinius.&lt;br /&gt;
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But a greater threat soon emerged: Ka&#039;bandha, a powerful [[Bloodthirster]] and one of [[Khorne]]&#039;s greatest servants. He attacked the Blood Angels while taunting Sanguinius in the middle of the battle  and claimed that Horus had betrayed him. Refusing to believe this, Sanguinius attacked in rage, and managed to stab his sword right into the daemon&#039;s chest and wound him severely. Ka&#039;bandha roared in pain and lashed out with his whip, ensnaring Sanguinius&#039; legs and crushing them. Then, leaving Sanguinius alive for [[Plot armor|some reason]], Ka&#039;Bandha charged off to slay a few hundred Blood Angels. The Red Thirst, already a problem for the Blood Angels, was exacerbated by the psychic shockwaves of each of his sons dying, and Sanguinius vowed that he would take vengeance on Ka&#039;bandha for this atrocity. In the Chaos temple at the centre of the battle, Sanguinius duelled Ka&#039;Bandha again, ripping off a wing and then throwing him off a platform and back through a portal into the realm of Chaos. To top it off, Sanguinius then faced Kyriss and beheaded that sick fuck, promptly ending his rule.&lt;br /&gt;
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===During the later Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
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Along with the [[Imperial Fists]] and the [[White Scars]], the Blood Angels were able to make it back to [[Terra]] in the closing days of the Horus Heresy to defend it from the traitor legions and their daemonic allies. Sanguinius and his legion led the defense of the Imperial Palace itself when the forces of Chaos closed in around it, and the Primarch slew innumerable daemons, traitors and other assorted scum in the process. Fortunately for Sanguinius, Ka&#039;Bandha also turned up during the battle, and the two went at it again rather majestically atop the Eternity Gate to the Emperor&#039;s throne room. Not to be beaten again, Sanguinius managed to [[Awesome|SNAP KA&#039;BANDHA&#039;S SPINE OVER HIS MOTHERFUCKING KNEE]] and hurled the bastard&#039;s corpse back into the throng of Chaos filth below, and the Blood Angels who had died by the Bloodthirster&#039;s hand were thus avenged in the most spectacularly badass of ways.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|thumbnail|right|300px|Unfortunately, this is the image most people know Sanguinius from. (He&#039;s the dead guy on the floor.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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But this is Warhammer 40,000, and [[noblebright]] doesn&#039;t last very long against [[grimdark]], even when it&#039;s badass noblebright. Eventually, the Big E himself, along with Sanguinius, [[Rogal Dorn]], Rogal Dorn&#039;s mustache, and a contingent of their respective Marines, launched a last-ditch assault against Horus, teleporting aboard his [[Battle Barge|battle barge]] and taking the fight to the Warmaster himself. As fighting broke out across the capital ship, Sanguinius got separated from the rest of the assault party ([[Tzeentch|THANKS OBAMA!]]), and when he found Horus, he was alone. Horus, perhaps out of some small, lingering sense of brotherhood with Sanguinius, offered his former friend, for the final time, a chance to turn to Chaos. But Sanguinius said &#039;&#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhDjz0WAZs&amp;quot;NEVAH!&amp;quot;]&#039;&#039;&#039; and the two Primarchs proceeded to battle for the fate of mankind. Though Sanguinius was one of the most powerful of the Primarchs, he was wounded and wearied from the fight on Terra and already at a disadvantage, and Horus had been granted terrible power by the gods of Chaos to boot. Horus therefore slew Sanguinius so hard that it psychically traumatized the Blood Angels for ages to come, and the [[Black Rage]] became the ([[Mephiston|almost]]) inescapable mental scourge it is on the chapter today.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legacy==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although Sanguinius lost to Horus, it is widely believed that the Emperor would not have been able to destroy Horus afterwards were it not for the chink that Sanguinius put in Horus&#039; armour. And it is also widely agreed that if Horus hadn&#039;t come to save his legion&#039;s ass that day on Terra, it would have been ground out of existence by Sanguinius and the Blood Angels. Lastly, it is also agreed that Sanguinius was tired after several days of fighting (he defied fucking [[Angron]] on the battlements!), and if he had been totally refreshed, Horus would have had a lot more than just a chink in his armour. However, in the Horus Heresy Collected Visions, it details the battle between the Emperor and Horus, and makes it clear that the main reason Big E didn&#039;t kill him immediately is because he thought he might be able to save him…a hope which was dashed as soon as he saw Sanguinius&#039; body. However, in Visions of Heresy, Big E still held back, even after seeing Sanguinius&#039; body. It wasn&#039;t until the Emperor was mortally wounded on the floor that this changed. It says that as he&#039;s lying, waiting for the final blow, a Custodian (who, in older, cooler fluff, USED to be [[Ollanius Pius|a certain adamantium-balled Imperial Guardsman]] exemplifying everything it means to be one) appears and rushes toward him, Horus contemptuously kills the Custodian; a friend of the Emperor for centuries, without barely an effort, laughing maniacally as he did so. It was this utter contempt to taking a life which FINALLY made the Emperor realise there was no saving his son.    &lt;br /&gt;
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In short, if Horus is Lucifer and The Emprah is God, then Sanguinius is Jesus. Sanguinius died for your sins…just like Optimus Prime does on a daily basis.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius also bears the distinction of being one of the few Primarchs (alongside Horus, [[Ferrus Manus]] and [[Roboute Guilliman]]) who were capable of lasting a little more than 3 seconds against [[Angron]], who had Sanguinus&#039; strength but was much quicker to go all-out.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the 41st millennium, Sanguinius is the Primarch most beloved by the [[Imperium]] for his [[Dreadnought|heroic sacrifice]] (despite what [[Matt Ward|he who shall not be named]] would say about [[Roboute Guilliman|our Spiritual Liege]]), and is a hero of the Imperial Cult. Across the Imperium a celebration called the Sanguinala is held in his honor, where adepts wear the iconography of the Blood Angels. A festival dedicated to [[Leman Russ]] would have been a better party, but would also have involved more property damage and alcohol-related deaths, and a hell of a lot more [[Furry|fur fags]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The mysterious entity known as the [[Sanguinor]] is believed to be the incarnation of Sanguinius&#039; better nature, or the first [[Sanguinary Guard]] Herald Azkaellon, miraculously preserved through time. Its actual origin, though, is far more mundane: when Sanguinius was named Emperor of [[Roboute Guilliman|Guilliman&#039;]]s [[Imperium Secundus]], he and Azkaellon invented the figure who could act as Sanguinius&#039; public face and deal with petitioners, whilst Sanguinius himself could be elsewhere, you know...[[Get shit done|dealing with stuff]]. In modern 40k, outside of perhaps the Sanguinary Guard themselves, the only &amp;quot;living&amp;quot; person &#039;&#039;confirmed&#039;&#039; to know the truth is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|the Lion]], but he&#039;s in no position to tell anyone. But since nobody else in the 41st millennium is entirely certain of the truth, it&#039;s getting the [[Inquisition]]&#039;s panties in a bunch. A good thing, too, since Sanguinius&#039; original position of proxy-Emperor was a teensie bit [[Heresy|heretical]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It is a well-known fact that every female (human, xenos and daemonette) in the the whole grimdark galaxy wants Sanguinius sexually, including &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Khorne]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;{{Blam|WHO CALLED ME FEMALE?!}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and [[Slaanesh]]. Many [[Sisters of Battle|Sororitas]] (and some [[Space Marines|Astartes]]) cry themselves to sleep at the knowledge that they won&#039;t &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Ultramarines|EVER]] [[Matt Ward|BE]] [[Ultramarines|ULTRAMARINES]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; ever be able to hold his beautiful golden mane as he slays them with his mighty power sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Heretic.png|Sanguinius gets the bitches.  All of &#039;em.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanginuscool.jpg|Does Sanguinius have to choke a bitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;Yes&#039;&#039;&#039;. *Cue the complete and total curbstomping of the armies of Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Astartesjealousy.jpg| Sanguinius: The most bishie of bishies.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by koowanchee-d484eu4.jpg|Don&#039;t you wish your Primarch was hot like me?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fear to tread.jpg|Sanguinius, only slightly less fabulous than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius1.jpg|Sanguinius, looking cool&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;A hero is someone who has given his or her life to something bigger than oneself.&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanguinius by noldofinve-d4xpxx5-5157.jpg|thumbnail|right|400px|Look, if I HAD to bang a dude...just sayin&#039;...]]&lt;br /&gt;
-Joseph Campbell&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Angels are bright still, though the brightest fell.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- William Shakespeare&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sanguinius&#039;&#039;&#039; (also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Papa Sang&#039;&#039;&#039;) was (and that &#039;was&#039; is quite significant) the [[Primarch]] of the [[Blood Angels]] [[Space Marine]] [[Chapter]]. He was notable for the fuckhueg angel-like wings that mutated out of his back during his childhood on his home planet, [[Baal]], as well as his heroic deeds during the [[Great Crusade]]. Unfortunately, Sanguinius was slain by [[Horus]] during his eponymous [[Horus Heresy|Heresy]], though it is widely believed that it was Sanguinius&#039; weakening of the Arch-Traitor which made it possible for the [[Emperor]] to shut Horus&#039;s big, stupid, [[heresy]]-spewing mouth once and for all, and thus save mankind from the clutches of [[Chaos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Origins==&lt;br /&gt;
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Like the rest of the Primarchs, Sanguinius was bio-engineered on [[Terra]] to serve as a general in the [[Emperor]]&#039;s armies, and was stolen in his infancy and carried away across the galaxy by daemonic agents of [[Chaos]] in an attempt to foil the Emperor&#039;s efforts to unite humanity. Landing on [[Baal]], he was found by the Folk of the Blood, a local tribe who raised him to manhood. They were going to kill him for being a mutant, but when it became clear that Sanguinius was a badass warrior-prodigy the likes of which they&#039;d never seen, they decided he was worth keeping. After all, Sanguinius was actually a pretty nice guy for [[Warhammer 40,000|40k]], and he was pretty handy at fighting off those other mutants that kept attacking them from Baal&#039;s radioactive deserts, which he could walk through without any protection. As such, Sanguinius quickly ascended as a leader among the tribes of Baal and drove back the hordes of mutants threatening their hold on the world, eventually attaining a near god-like status among the planet&#039;s denizens. &lt;br /&gt;
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After the Emperor found Baal and bade Sanguinius to assume his rightful place among his armies, Sanguinius wept a single tear of joy because he&#039;s manly enough to be in touch with his feelings, and bowed before teh Emprah. (Of the [[canon|canonical]] Space Marines, his chapter is to this day one of the most batshit-loyal to the Emperor.) The greatest of Sanguinius&#039; tribal warriors were extended the honor of joining the [[Space Marines|Adeptus Astartes]], and were thereafter implanted with the gene-seed drawn from Sanguinius&#039; genome. These men became the first members of the ninth Space Marine legion to be founded, and the [[Blood Angels]] were born.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:7d9a85e6e4a368bb435e943fc891a25b.jpg|thumbnail|right|250px|Sanguinius (left) and Horus whooping some ass together before SOMEBODY had to go and damn the Imperium to an eternity of [[Grimdark|war, cultural stagnation and paranoia]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Joining the [[Great Crusade]], Sanguinius became best buds with fellow Primarchs [[Horus]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Rogal Dorn]]. Ironically (and later, tragically), his friendship with Horus is said to have been closer than that of any of the other Primarchs. Which, this being 40k, went straight to hell when the [[Horus Heresy]] started. He was easily the most [[Pretty Marines|fabulous]] of all the Emperor&#039;s generals; he wore a glowing, ornate set of golden artificer armor adorned with huge rubies which represented Terra, Baal, and Baal&#039;s moons, and his magnificent white wings would spread behind him as he took to the skies of the battlefield. At the same time, he gave the impression that he&#039;d be happy to cast off his finery, whereas Fulgrim would rather die. Basically, in Sanguinius&#039; case, [[Games Workshop|Geedubs]] abandoned all pretense of being subtle about the whole &amp;quot;the Emperor is God, the primarchs are the archangels, and Horus is Lucifer&amp;quot; thing—like, to the point that Sanguinius became known simply as &amp;quot;The Angel&amp;quot; among the armies of mankind. &lt;br /&gt;
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Though not first in favor among the Emprah&#039;s Primarchs (that position belonged to Horus, pre-heresy), [[Magnus the Red|or the biggest psychic powerhouse]], [[Roboute Guilliman|or the best at empire-building]], [[Lorgar|or even the one who looked most like Dad]], Sanguinius was said to have the best &#039;&#039;blend&#039;&#039; of the Big E&#039;s attributes. And while a lot of the Space Marine legions and their generals fought in the Great Crusade just for the sake of glory and a good battle, Sanguinius and his Blood Angels fought for what the Emperor himself did: [[Noblebright|a better galaxy, a peaceful galaxy, one where humanity would be united, happy, and prosperous]]. During the Crusade, the Blood Angels formed a friendly rivalry with the [[World Eaters]] legion (yet another relationship the Horus Heresy would royally buttfuck), because both were noted for being assault-oriented shock troops; however, while the World Eaters were straight-up lunatics in combat, the Blood Angels&#039; ferocity was mitigated when it needed to be by Sanguinius&#039; wisdom. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also everyone loved the guy. Literally, even at the depths of his heresy Horus wished Sanguinius was one of his generals. [[meme|And he was a good guy who doesn&#039;t afraid of anything]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Signus Prime and Ka&#039;Bandha===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Signusianclash.jpg|thumb|left|400px|&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;[[Awesome|If you truly do hail from the realm that men once called hell, when you return there, tell your kindred it was Sanguinius who threw you back.]]&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; —Sanguinius, taking a small moment to deliver this line after decapitating a [[Keeper of Secrets]] and [[rip and tear|&amp;quot;relieving&amp;quot;]] [[Khorne]]&#039;s mightiest servant of his wings, and just generally setting the stage for Ka&#039;Bandha&#039;s future [[butthurt]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point during the Great Crusade, Sanguinius and the Blood Angels were tasked by Warmaster Horus with reclaiming the Signus Cluster from a supposed [[xenos]] infestation and liberating the humans there from their oppressors. However, when they arrived, they found that the entire system had been consumed by the evil influence of the [[Chaos Gods]], and specifically a [[Keeper of Secrets]] calling itself Kyriss the Perverse. (This was actually a trap set by Horus in an attempt to eliminate Sanguinius early on because he feared him more than any of his other fellow Primarchs. What a pussy.) Long story short, the Blood Angels were stranded in-system, caught off guard and lost a lot of Marines, ships &amp;amp; crew, but eventually regrouped and conquered the armies of cultists and Chaos [[daemons]] in the Signus system. Kyriss even manifested on the bridge of the Red Tear, Blood Angels flagship, from the frames of eight servitors to taunt Sanguinius.&lt;br /&gt;
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But a greater threat soon emerged: Ka&#039;bandha, a powerful [[Bloodthirster]] and one of [[Khorne]]&#039;s greatest servants. He attacked the Blood Angels while taunting Sanguinius in the middle of the battle  and claimed that Horus had betrayed him. Refusing to believe this, Sanguinius attacked in rage, and managed to stab his sword right into the daemon&#039;s chest and wound him severely. Ka&#039;bandha roared in pain and lashed out with his whip, ensnaring Sanguinius&#039; legs and crushing them. Then, leaving Sanguinius alive for [[Plot armor|some reason]], Ka&#039;Bandha charged off to slay a few hundred Blood Angels. The Red Thirst, already a problem for the Blood Angels, was exacerbated by the psychic shockwaves of each of his sons dying, and Sanguinius vowed that he would take vengeance on Ka&#039;bandha for this atrocity. In the Chaos temple at the centre of the battle, Sanguinius duelled Ka&#039;Bandha again, ripping off a wing and then throwing him off a platform and back through a portal into the realm of Chaos. To top it off, Sanguinius then faced Kyriss and beheaded that sick fuck, promptly ending his rule.&lt;br /&gt;
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===During the later Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
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Along with the [[Imperial Fists]] and the [[White Scars]], the Blood Angels were able to make it back to [[Terra]] in the closing days of the Horus Heresy to defend it from the traitor legions and their daemonic allies. Sanguinius and his legion led the defense of the Imperial Palace itself when the forces of Chaos closed in around it, and the Primarch slew innumerable daemons, traitors and other assorted scum in the process. Fortunately for Sanguinius, Ka&#039;Bandha also turned up during the battle, and the two went at it again rather majestically atop the Eternity Gate to the Emperor&#039;s throne room. Not to be beaten again, Sanguinius managed to [[Awesome|SNAP KA&#039;BANDHA&#039;S SPINE OVER HIS MOTHERFUCKING KNEE]] and hurled the bastard&#039;s corpse back into the throng of Chaos filth below, and the Blood Angels who had died by the Bloodthirster&#039;s hand were thus avenged in the most spectacularly badass of ways.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Horus vs The Emperor.jpg|thumbnail|right|300px|Unfortunately, this is the image most people know Sanguinius from. (He&#039;s the dead guy on the floor.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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But this is Warhammer 40,000, and [[noblebright]] doesn&#039;t last very long against [[grimdark]], even when it&#039;s badass noblebright. Eventually, the Big E himself, along with Sanguinius, [[Rogal Dorn]], Rogal Dorn&#039;s mustache, and a contingent of their respective Marines, launched a last-ditch assault against Horus, teleporting aboard his [[Battle Barge|battle barge]] and taking the fight to the Warmaster himself. As fighting broke out across the capital ship, Sanguinius got separated from the rest of the assault party ([[Tzeentch|THANKS OBAMA!]]), and when he found Horus, he was alone. Horus, perhaps out of some small, lingering sense of brotherhood with Sanguinius, offered his former friend, for the final time, a chance to turn to Chaos. But Sanguinius said &#039;&#039;&#039;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEhDjz0WAZs&amp;quot;NEVAH!&amp;quot;]&#039;&#039;&#039; and the two Primarchs proceeded to battle for the fate of mankind. Though Sanguinius was one of the most powerful of the Primarchs, he was wounded and wearied from the fight on Terra and already at a disadvantage, and Horus had been granted terrible power by the gods of Chaos to boot. Horus therefore slew Sanguinius so hard that it psychically traumatized the Blood Angels for ages to come, and the [[Black Rage]] became the ([[Mephiston|almost]]) inescapable mental scourge it is on the chapter today.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legacy==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although Sanguinius lost to Horus, it is widely believed that the Emperor would not have been able to destroy Horus afterwards were it not for the chink that Sanguinius put in Horus&#039; armour. And it is also widely agreed that if Horus hadn&#039;t come to save his legion&#039;s ass that day on Terra, it would have been ground out of existence by Sanguinius and the Blood Angels. Lastly, it is also agreed that Sanguinius was tired after several days of fighting (he defied fucking [[Angron]] on the battlements!), and if he had been totally refreshed, Horus would have had a lot more than just a chink in his armour. However, in the Horus Heresy Collected Visions, it details the battle between the Emperor and Horus, and makes it clear that the main reason Big E didn&#039;t kill him immediately is because he thought he might be able to save him…a hope which was dashed as soon as he saw Sanguinius&#039; body. However, in Visions of Heresy, Big E still held back, even after seeing Sanguinius&#039; body. It wasn&#039;t until the Emperor was mortally wounded on the floor that this changed. It says that as he&#039;s lying, waiting for the final blow, a Custodian (who, in older, cooler fluff, USED to be [[Ollanius Pius|a certain adamantium-balled Imperial Guardsman]] exemplifying everything it means to be one) appears and rushes toward him, Horus contemptuously kills the Custodian; a friend of the Emperor for centuries, without barely an effort, laughing maniacally as he did so. It was this utter contempt to taking a life which FINALLY made the Emperor realise there was no saving his son.    &lt;br /&gt;
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In short, if Horus is Lucifer and The Emprah is God, then Sanguinius is Jesus. Sanguinius died for your sins…just like Optimus Prime does on a daily basis.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sanguinius also bears the distinction of being one of the few Primarchs (alongside Horus, [[Ferrus Manus]] and [[Roboute Guilliman]]) who were capable of lasting a little more than 3 seconds against [[Angron]], who had Sanguinus&#039; strength but was much quicker to go all-out.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In the 41st millennium, Sanguinius is the Primarch most beloved by the [[Imperium]] for his [[Dreadnought|heroic sacrifice]] (despite what [[Matt Ward|he who shall not be named]] would say about [[Roboute Guilliman|our Spiritual Liege]]), and is a hero of the Imperial Cult. Across the Imperium a celebration called the Sanguinala is held in his honor, where adepts wear the iconography of the Blood Angels. A festival dedicated to [[Leman Russ]] would have been a better party, but would also have involved more property damage and alcohol-related deaths, and a hell of a lot more [[Furry|fur fags]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The mysterious entity known as the [[Sanguinor]] is believed to be the incarnation of Sanguinius&#039; better nature, or the first [[Sanguinary Guard]] Herald Azkaellon, miraculously preserved through time. Its actual origin, though, is far more mundane: when Sanguinius was named Emperor of [[Roboute Guilliman|Guilliman&#039;]]s [[Imperium Secundus]], he and Azkaellon invented the figure who could act as Sanguinius&#039; public face and deal with petitioners, whilst Sanguinius himself could be elsewhere, you know...[[Get shit done|dealing with stuff]]. In modern 40k, outside of perhaps the Sanguinary Guard themselves, the only &amp;quot;living&amp;quot; person &#039;&#039;confirmed&#039;&#039; to know the truth is [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|the Lion]], but he&#039;s in no position to tell anyone. But since nobody else in the 41st millennium is entirely certain of the truth, it&#039;s getting the [[Inquisition]]&#039;s panties in a bunch. A good thing, too, since Sanguinius&#039; original position of proxy-Emperor was a teensie bit [[Heresy|heretical]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It is a well-known fact that every female (human, xenos and daemonette) in the the whole grimdark galaxy wants Sanguinius sexually, including &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Khorne]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;{{Blam|WHO CALLED ME FEMALE?!}}&#039;&#039;&#039; and [[Slaanesh]]. Many [[Sisters of Battle|Sororitas]] (and some [[Space Marines|Astartes]]) cry themselves to sleep at the knowledge that they won&#039;t &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Ultramarines|EVER]] [[Matt Ward|BE]] [[Ultramarines|ULTRAMARINES]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; ever be able to hold his beautiful golden mane as he slays them with his mighty power sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Heretic.png|Sanguinius gets the bitches.  All of &#039;em.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanginuscool.jpg|Does Sanguinius have to choke a bitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;Yes&#039;&#039;&#039;. *Cue the complete and total curbstomping of the armies of Chaos.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Astartesjealousy.jpg| Sanguinius: The most bishie of bishies.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius by koowanchee-d484eu4.jpg|Don&#039;t you wish your Primarch was hot like me?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Fear to tread.jpg|Sanguinius, only slightly less fabulous than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Sanguinius1.jpg|Sanguinius, looking cool&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ferrus Manus Pre-Haircut.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Ferrus Manus, The Gorgon, Wyrmslayer, The Great Iron-Father. It took over twenty five years to get a decent image of him, and he ended up looking like [[/co/|the Punisher]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
— William Butler Yeats&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;By turns our purity inspires and our impurity casts us down.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
— Henry David Thoreau&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ferrus Manus&#039;&#039;&#039; was the [[Primarch]] of the [[Iron Hands]] [[Chapter]] of [[Space Marines]]. His hands are made of iron. His name is also Latin for &amp;quot;Iron Hand&amp;quot;. Real subtle, GW. He got said hands after wrestling with a silver dragon on the planet he crashed on and dripped the lizard into magma and then the metallic skin of the dragon fused into the skin on his hands. Wait, living metal? [[Necron|That sounds oddly familiar for some reason...]] Anyway, his arms became so fucking hardcore that he did not even *need* a weapon to tear through dudes: his iron hands were more than enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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So in summary, Iron Hands, who had iron hands, was the leader of the Iron Hands, who give themselves iron hands in honour of the iron hands of Iron Hands of the Iron Hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also got really pissed off if you called him [[Meme|THE HANDS OF FATE]] after that incident.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ferrus, using his shiny metal hands, could make epic weapons that absolutely kick ass but he only used like one or two of them. It&#039;s not clear as to whether he or [[Vulkan]] was the best smith.  Vulkan had better aesthetics, in that he could create things that actually looked pretty instead of just [[Leman Russ Battle Tank|ugly blocks of metal with guns haphazardly glued on]], but Ferrus certainly had the better way of making weapons, by punching them into shape with his bare fists. Vulkan also had a respect for geology, where Ferrus thought that details of a metal ended at its usefulness.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
Back in the days of the Great Crusade (before the good ol&#039; [[Horus]] [[Heresy]]), Ferrus met [[Fulgrim]] of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] beneath Mount Narodnya, and challenged him to forge the best weapon that he could. After three months, Fulgrim forged an ornate warhammer, while Ferrus made a big blingy sword. After praising each other for their craftsmanship, the two exchanged weapons and became best friends. &lt;br /&gt;
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Like Vulkan, he made a point of forging gear for most of his brothers. Although Vulkan was a bit uncomfortable with Ferrus&#039; way of punching metal into shape and didn&#039;t use his dragon-headed flamer until the Heresy broke out. Examples of his work include Horus&#039; sword and Lorgar&#039;s mace.&lt;br /&gt;
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Until Fulgrim found a new [[Slaanesh|boyfriend/girlfriend/hermaphroditic freak]]. Then decided to screw over Ferrus, [[Fulgrim]] totally outmatched Ferrus with his HAWTNEZZ and Ferrus jacked the sword he made for his ex-boyfriend back. Some time later after some epic planning that would [[FAIL|EPICALLY FAIL]], Ferrus goes with other [[Space Marine|Primarchs]] to attempt to kick Fulgrim&#039;s and [[Horus|Horus&#039;s]] ass. But then they got totally fucked up by a bunch of reinforcements while Ferrus assrapes Fulgrim... until he becomes Slaanesh&#039;s boyfriend; and proceeds to cut Ferrus Manus&#039;s head off. Horus was pretty fucking pissed at this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ironically, Ferrus&#039; death was caused by the same self-flagellating urge that drives his sons to turn themselves into cyborgs. Fulgrim came to convert him to Horus&#039; side; to Ferrus this meant there was some flaw inside him that needed to be expunged by killing Fulgrim. This was why the Iron Hands stayed in the field when everyone else disengaged, and got screwed over harder than everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite his anger at Fulgrim, Horus kept Ferrus&#039;s head, removing the remaining flesh and leaving it a bleached skull for his throne. Sometimes he would talk to it, lamenting that he had nothing but [[Magnus|dishonored]] and [[Konrad Curze|broken]] [[Angron|psychopaths]] instead of [[Sanguinius|angels]] and [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|strategists]] as his generals. Waging a galaxy wide heresy is a tough job.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In 40k?==&lt;br /&gt;
There is speculation &#039;&#039;(in-universe and out)&#039;&#039; that Ferrus Manus somehow lives, and is hidden away on Mars by the [[Adeptus Mechanicus]], though mentioning this to the Iron Hands gets them impressively angry, to the point that they might demonstrate how they think otherwise by using the speaker&#039;s own head. The marines who survived the Dropsite Massacre were in no doubt, having seen the visual evidence from multiple angles, but apparently the Iron Hands found the files too depressing and set about their hard drive with a bolter.&lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, the [[Horus Heresy]] book series might currently be sowing the seeds of some sort of truth to the rumour... [[Fulgrim]] regretted not being able to convince Ferrus Manus into joining the side of the traitors, and so had [[Fabius Bile]] attempt to clone his brother with all of his memories intact so that Fulgrim might try again at turning Ferrus to [[Chaos]]. This [[FAIL|did not work]] as the cloned Ferrus would become hostile at the suggestion of turning traitor and would have to be killed by daemon-Fulgrim. &lt;br /&gt;
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That didn&#039;t stop Fulgrim from trying again and again, believing that Fabius&#039; cloning methods resulted in &amp;quot;imperfect&amp;quot; clones and so ordered him to try harder and create more, though fortunately, each one would get angry at the attempt to turn him away from the Emperor and end up getting beaten to death by his now-ascended brother. Guess even Daemon Primarchs can stay [[butthurt]] for millennia on end.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another thing to note is that the Ferrus Manus clones &#039;&#039;did not&#039;&#039; have the metallic arms of the original, which is obvious since the original was not &amp;quot;born&amp;quot; with them either and only acquired them later in life. This fact was hidden from the clones by making them wear gauntlets, which the clones found confusing (the original Ferrus never needed gauntlets for protection since the metal skin was protective enough) but ended up rolling with, since their lives tended to be measured in hours. The &amp;quot;original&amp;quot; Ferrus Manus was hacked to pieces by traitor marines after being decapitated, with many taking away parts as trophies and Fulgrim likely taking &#039;some part to remember him by&#039;. Guess. What happened to the original Ferrus&#039; metallic arms remains a mystery but a number of interested parties cut shavings off them(finger bones) to use in the edges of ritual blades.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The flesh is... strong?==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ferrus Manus by John Blanche.JPG|thumb|left|For a very long time this was one of only two officially produced images of Ferrus Manus, drawn by [[John Blanche]]. The other image showed only his backside. Ever get the feeling you&#039;re the unfavorite? Ferrus understands you.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ferrus_Manus.jpg|thumb|right|[[Drawfag|Artist&#039;s]] rendition of Ferrus Manus.  Has the chin of TEN MEN!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Being the hardass flesh-haters that the Iron Hands are, one would suspect that Ferrus Manus might as well have been called Ferrus Clunis when it comes to the weakness of the flesh. In reality this is about as far from the reality as possible. The following is taken from the preface to a novel where the Iron Hands are portrayed as emotionless, flesh-hating, misanthropes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They are not my hands. This fact is forgotten by my brothers - inexplicably, it has always seemed to me. The hands are strong, to be sure, and have created great things for us all, but they are not mine. And that counts for something. They forget that the silver on my arms comes from a beast that I vanquished. It is the mark of a great evil that I ended, and yet it persists within me... I would struggle to remove it now... I will not remove the silver from my flesh because I have learned to depend on it. The fault is with my mind. I rely on the augmentation given to me by my metal gauntlets, so much so that the flesh beneath them is now little more than a distant memory... A day will come when I will strip it from me, lest I lose the power to master myself forever. Already my Legion&#039;s warriors replace their shield hands with metal in my honour, and so they too are learning to doubt the natural strength of their bodies. They must be weaned off this practice before it becomes a mania for them. Hatred of what is natural, of what is human, is the first and greatest of the corruptions. So I record it here: when the time comes, I will strip my hands of their unnatural silver. I will instruct my Legion to recant their distrust of the flesh. I will turn them away from the gifts of the machine and bid them relearn the mysteries of flesh, bone and blood. When my fathers&#039; Crusade is over, this shall be my sacred task. When the fighting is done, I shall cure my Legion and myself. For if fighting is all there is, if we may never pause to reflect on what such devotion to strength is doing to us, then our compulsion will only grow. Already I see the madness that path leads to, and so I shall excise the silver from my hands. In doing so I shall weaken myself and my sons, but nonetheless it must be done. The hands are strong, and have created great things, but they are not mine.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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With what the Iron Hands do by turning themselves into cyborgs, with only part of their brains being flesh, is as big of a [[Rage|FUCK YOU]] to the Primarch as possible. Or, they thought that his doctrine was lacking on account of him receiving a [[viking]] crewcut courtesy of his once best friend and felt that they needed to protect themselves from such a fate. Only some of them took this lesson WAY too hard and started resurrecting their dead as cryogenic zombie cyborgs, repeating the process so many time that the dead effectively became brain-dead machines. Either way, it puts the Iron Hands in an interesting light.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On The Tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ferrus-manus1.jpg|250px|thumb|right|Praise be to [[Forge World]] for the making of this! The head even comes as a seperate part...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ferrus Mannus is essentially God-King of Mars, functioning like a supreme Master Of The Forge Techmarine. In addition to all the fun godly powers given to all Primarchs, he also has Relentless and Smash, and straight up all ranged weapons fire at him at -1 strength value. At T7, that means boltguns, sluggas, and all manner of S4 shooty guns as are prevalent throughout all of 40k no longer have the chance of hurting him. Bringing him also makes your Legiones Astartes Iron Hands army function a lot like the 40k Chapter Tactics, in that all models gain Feel No Pain (6+) unless it already had one better.&lt;br /&gt;
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He has Battlesmith and passes all repair rolls on a 3+ (That becomes a lovely 2+ thanks to his servo-arm). He also makes any of your vehicles with at least 1 AV of 13 or higher gain It Will Not Die. You are going to field tanks and Contemptor Dreadnoughts with this guy. He is good to them. His crazy 2+/3++ armor includes a Nuncio-Vox so Ferrus can help direct your heaping gobs of indirect tank fire, and it gives him a servo arm. It also lets him shoot two of his guns in the shooting phase, making him the shootiest primarch we currently have rules for, which include a Plasma Blaster, Graviton Gun, Grenade Harness or Heavy Flamer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lastly, his hammer Forgebreaker (that one forged by [[Fulgrim| Fulgrim]]) is &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; Primarch stuff in that it&#039;s Sx2 Ap1 Concussive Strikedown. Not bad, Fulgrim, you pretty boy fuckhead. [[Dwarf Fortress|You make a pretty decent hammer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Considering his bonus Primarch powers are a force multiplier for a large tank army, and Legiones Astartes Iron Hands already gain several bonuses for tanks, you&#039;re bringing him with as many as you can field. Roll him alongside your tank columns so he can repair as you roll onward, knowing full well he can capably handle most any hand to hand unit thrown his way and is an excellent shot with powerful weapons in his own right.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yes, the model&#039;s head is detachable. (THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ferrus Manus VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (Especially with someone like Ferrus, with T 7 and 2+/3++ as saves). With that in mind this section is how Ferrus Manus fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise.  Please note that all the various abilities are taken into accounts when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. In essence, the fights are supposed to be in a &amp;quot;Vacuum&amp;quot; for simplicity, but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarch use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?) so naturally Ferrus is equipped with Forgebreaker. Also, don&#039;t ever forget that he comes with Servo Arm for that ever useful +1 attack at S8 Ap 2, even if Unwieldy.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus Manus VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 4.667 times (Worldbreaker), wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.0833 times, 0.694 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361.&lt;br /&gt;
**As always, the Warmaster can&#039;t be put down. Although Ferrus can put up a decent fight thanks to his resilience.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus Manus VS Angron&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.868 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.535 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Again, thanks to his tankiness Ferrus can stalemate Angron (who does a lot of damage) to the point that he will kill him just one round before the Red Angel can actually kill him back. Also Strikedown make this easier since Ferrus will hit first from round 2 and thereafter.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.25 times, 0.416 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.083.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2 times, 1 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.444 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Even though Mortarion is tough in the end Ferrus wins pretty easily thanks to his superior save and to his hammer&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus vs Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 1: hits 5.629 (Master-crafted) times, wounds 3.284 times (Child of Terra), 1.094 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.761 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.611 times, wounds 2.107 times, 0.702 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.369 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The infamous match! And also one of the closest, with the same outcome as the lore unless Fulgrim either has the Laer Blade or he doesn&#039;t have Child of Terra, in which case he doesn&#039;t really stand a chance. With the Hammer, Ferrus is like Fulgrim&#039;s worst nightmare, &#039;cause strikedown will go off even if the strike doesn&#039;t wound him, reducing his initiative to 4 and stripping him of all his advantages. In the end, Fulgrim will win on the 11th round, while Ferrus needs 12 rounds to come on top, so Fulgrim did really well to take the hammer away. Also, a really epic fight!&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;&#039;Its worth noting that in the fluff during this duel Ferrus was fighting with Fireblade and Fulgrim with Forgebreaker.  Here&#039;s how well that goes: against a primarch Fireblade is only a little better than just using his bare hands, though against most Primarchs Ferrus still wounds on a 2+ so it&#039;s all right for him. For Fulgrim though Forgebreaker is a HUGE upgrade. He goes from wounding of 4+ to 2+ thanks to strength 10. Most importantly Ferrus will no longer have Concussive to mitigate Fulgrim&#039;s sublime swordsman rules so he still gets more attacks. Even worse is that since Fulgrim can concuss Ferrus down to initiative 1, sublime swordsman will generate SEVEN additional attacks whenever concuss hits and hitting so much means it should be every turn. And even worse is that since Ferrus is down to initiative 1 a lot of the time, Blind is much much more likely to hit. It doesn&#039;t even matter if we make Forgebreaker unwieldy in Fulgrim&#039;s hands because unwieldy doesn&#039;t actually reduce initiative, it just makes you fight at that initiative step, and putting out so much more damage means striking at the same time simply doesn&#039;t matter. In the first turn Fulgrim should get that first unsaved wound to concuss and after that it gets disgusting. Once Fulgrim concusses Ferrus he gets 12(!) attacks (since sublime swordsman doesn&#039;t limit the bonus attacks it can give) hitting on 3+ (8 hits) wounding on 2+ (5.3 wounds) which is a frankly disgusting 3.5 wounds after saves. IWND will take that down to 3.177 but holy shit is Ferrus screwed. He dies after 3 rounds of combat and quite frankly he gets wrecked like a bitch. With Forgebreaker there&#039;s a reasonable chance that Fulgrim could take on Horus simply because the combination of sublime swordsman and concussive is just so powerful.&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Turns out Fulgrim WAS the better smith, after all.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 4 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.741 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 1.042 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.709 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus win.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: if Konrad use Hit and Run he can almost completely close the gap, doing 1.018 wounds on the turn he charges (counting his knives and HoW though). but when counting in Ferrus&#039; overwatch he wins anyway. Just not so easily, making this fight akin to that of Ferrus vs Fulgrim, but a lot faster.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.556 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2 times, 0.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.111 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The fight between the two big tanks end in an almost surprising victory for Vulkan, &#039;cause even though Ferrus does marginally more damage, Vulkan is a bit tougher.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Lorgar &lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.556 after saves and IWND will take that to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.0778 times, 1.389 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.056 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus win.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: as always, psychic powers not included. You know how it would end anyway...&lt;br /&gt;
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*Ferrus VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222, 0.74 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**The mirror match! (yes, I used Forgebreaker for both of them. Yeah, I know it is stupid...) In the end Perturabo win thanks to his WS, since even with one more attack Ferrus hit marginally less times.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: without the hammer(s) Ferrus would defeat Perturabo, &#039;cause he would wound Perturabo on a 3+ (2+ with the Servo Harm) wounding 1.75 times, with Perturabo wounding him on 4+ and so wounding him 1.333. Guess old Perty could use Fulgrim&#039;s hammer better, in the end.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.92 times and wounds 1.136 times, 0.379 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.045 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 1.042 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.709 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus easily win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2.667 times, wounds 1.481 times, 0.494 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.16 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 2.222 times (Scourge)/1.667 times (Shadow-walk), 0.741 wounds (Scourge)/0.556 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.408/0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5/1.667 times, wounds 2.083/1.389 times, 1.389/0.926 wounds after saves and 1.056/0.592 wounds after IWND.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus win. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: if Corax can pull off his tactics of Hit &amp;amp; Run he can close the gap, doing a lot more damage on the charge, but Ferrus&#039; Hammer has Concussive AND Strikedown, and even if Corax use Shadowalk there is a 93% chance he will receive at least one wound, making it almost impossible to rely on this tactics and assuring Ferrus victory.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ferrus VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times (Hand), 0.694 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.778 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.593 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.542 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.208 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus lose this fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TLDR version: Ferrus is a really tough Primarch that, thanks to his sheer resilience and high strength attack can put up a good fight against any other Primarch, being even capable of taking down the big melee monster that is Angron. &lt;br /&gt;
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[https://youtu.be/RloxrSfOJR8 Ferrus isn&#039;t dead, he&#039;s just stuck inside his favourite 1991 video game.]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Knight-Errant&#039;&#039;&#039; are/were a group of [[Space Marines]] brought together from various different [[First Founding|Legions]] at the behest of [[Malcador the Sigillite]] in order to create a cadre of the best and brightest that the space marines had to offer, and use them to form a [[Grey Knights|new Chapter]] to combat the threat of daemons and dark magic that the [[Imperium]] was not prepared to fight against, due to the erasure of all knowledge of them as part of the Imperial Truth. Members of the Traitor Legions which refused to follow their Primarchs into corruption, made up a surprisingly large part of their number. Having proven themselves truly pure and strong of spirit in the face of absolute corruption and despair, the Knights-Errant offered these legion-less marines, a new purpose, away from the taint of their old Legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is evidence for them being the forerunners of [[Grey Knights]]. Despite what we think we know of the original Grey Knights and that eight of the initial recruits would become the first Grand Masters of the new chapters, those that initially joined the first member, [[Nathaniel Garro]], were not necessarily destined to become Grey Knights themselves. Author [[James Swallow]] has come out and said as much himself in an interview. In any case, most of these Knights would not survive the Horus Heresy anyway, but it&#039;s worth knowing that these guys possessed a very special and believable type of [[awesome]] (unlike [[Kaldor Draigo|this guy]]), and loads of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Known Members==&lt;br /&gt;
===Nathaniel Garro===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Death Guard]] Captain of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039;. The first member. The guy who fled the massacre at Istvaan III and managed to bring word of the Horus Heresy to the Imperium, thanks to his honor-brother, and a very cool guy, Saul Tarvitz of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. On the way there, he also became the first of the Loyalists to encounter what would later be known as the Plague Marines, as the corpses of his traitorous legion-brothers came back to life as they traveled through the warp.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was given a list of twenty names from Sevarian &#039;&#039;(see below)&#039;&#039; who would become the Knights-Errant, and the task of collecting them woukd take him all over the galaxy during the Horus Heresy, from Calth &#039;&#039;(through the Ruinstorm no less)&#039;&#039; all the way back to Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would attempt to sneak into the [[Phalanx]] to recruit some Imperial Fist librarians &amp;quot;incarcerated&amp;quot; there, but was caught and turned away as they were happy eenough as is.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would also win to a duel with a mid-ranked Custodian, though even he admitted the effort taxed his abilities and he only won through playing to the particular individual&#039;s overconfidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Garro would also unwittingly uncover Malcador&#039;s plans to build a new [[Grey Knights|Astartes force on Titan]]  intended for the coming war &amp;quot;after&amp;quot; the Horus Heresy. Though he initially believed it to be a traitor force because of the secrecy involved with its construction. &lt;br /&gt;
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Partly because of those shrouded circumstances and the uncomfortable lengths the Sigillite would go to to protect humanity, Garro would repeatedly say that his ultimate fate would not lie on Titan. Therefore while he is a major contributor to the Grey Knights, it is unlikely he will be one of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Given rules as part of the lead-up to HH Book 6 &#039;Retribution&#039;, Garro can be a trolltastic addition to an army. He&#039;s built up as a challenge character, earning double combat resolution scores and gaining a 3+ invulnerable save. Despite this, he&#039;s not a combat monster, as &#039;&#039;Libertas&#039;&#039; is only a two-handed blade with AP3, despite having Rending. However, Garro&#039;s Death Guard resilience shows through, having &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior&#039;&#039; AND the chance to get back from death the first time he kicks the bucket during battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Garviel Loken===&lt;br /&gt;
Captain of the [[Luna Wolves]] 10th Company, who is very much the protagonist of the first trilogy of Horus Heresy novels. He was known for being able to think independently and rationally, as well as being exceptionally humane for an Astartes. A true stoic and a principle person, as well as a bad-ass. Was thought dead after the planet he was on was bombed with virus- and then fire bombs, surviving a 3 month siege by 4 traitor legions and a warlord titan, after being defeated by [[Abaddon]] in a duel and after having a building collapse on him, trapping him in the rubble, while the planet was being bombed into dust for a second time, this time with cyclone bombs. [[Not as planned|But NOPE]]! When Nathaniel Garro first discovered him, survivor&#039;s guilt and distrust had driven him half mad and he was convinced he was the only Loyalist left alive in the Imperium. Calling himself Cerberus, due to an inability to remember his own name, he then forced a reign of terror upon the totally dead, but [[Nurgle|reanimated]] population (read: Plague Zombies) of Isstvan III. Was supposedly the final member that Garro would recruit according to Malcador, although other members were inducted after Loken himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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His major highlights include:&lt;br /&gt;
*Being a member of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Mournival&#039;&#039;&#039;: the four advisors of Horus Lupercal, along with Abaddon, Tarik Torggadon, and &amp;quot;Little Horus&amp;quot; Aximand.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hilariously making [[Lucius]] his bitch in a duel, pointing out beforehand, that the duel would not be about their skill in blades. As he saw Lucius make the first move, he dropped his sword and in one stroke won the duel, by breaking that arrogant prick&#039;s nose into smithereens with a single punch, ruining Lucius&#039; &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; face and by making the first mark upon it. This trick was later over-exaggeratedly used again, by Saul Tarvitz. &lt;br /&gt;
*Fighting Abaddon himself on Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
*Making [[Kharn]] his side bitch by going toe to toe with him and then impaling the dude on the dozer blades of an advancing [[chaos|spikey]] land raider. What a fucking savage.&lt;br /&gt;
*Being present on [[Caliban]] during the [[Fallen Angels|Fallen uprising]] who had been largely ignorant of the Heresy, and quite possibly throwing a lit match on the whole powder keg.&lt;br /&gt;
*Possibly being a founding member of the Grey Knights.&lt;br /&gt;
*Giving Horus and an overwhelming majority of his traitor legion a virtual bitch-slap by turning his back on them when he asked to join the rebellion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Formerly the only member with tabletop rules in Horus Heresy, though that&#039;s his pre-Knight status, when he is a Legion Praetor character with Initiative 6 and a Paragon Blade, with the ability to get back from the dead once per game. Strangely he&#039;s the only Praetor with Power Armour (Sevatar, Ophion) rather than the standard issue Artificer Armour as the typical attire for Praetors, though he does get an Iron Halo which usually has to be bought for extra dough.&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve yet to see Loken as a Knight Errant, but no doubt Forgeworld will just take his original rules and slap on the option to upgrade to the generic &amp;quot;Knight Errant&amp;quot; rules for a few points in an updated list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Tylos Rubio===&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ultramarines]] Librarian who was the first member to be inducted by Garro. He was recruited in the midst of the [[Battle of Calth]]. Rubio would essentially become the Garro&#039;s second in command for several missions, and got his own job of travelling to Baal to collect all of the wargear of the Blood Angels (to give to the future Grey Knights) when everyone thought Sanguinius had fallen at Signus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rubio is one of the more powerful/reliable psykers on the tabletop of his era (which isn&#039;t hard as his primary competition is generic Librarians or special characters with &amp;quot;repressed&amp;quot; abilities). So compared to a Librarian, he&#039;s a ML2 psyker who can reroll failed Psychic tests when manifesting &#039;&#039;Divination&#039;&#039; powers, meaning he&#039;s practically guaranteed to cast. He&#039;s also no slouch in combat either, with Init 5 stock and can invest his warp charges into his Force Sword granting +1 Strength for each charge not spent on a power, meaning he can quite happily smack a bitch, although only at AP3 since its still just a sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Nemean Reaver===&lt;br /&gt;
His real name is unknown, but it is widely suspected (and also confirmed by statements from himself) that he was a Dark Angel. Heavily injured in the Rangdan Xenocides, he is supposed to be a mess of scar tissue and [[Rage]]. Was the head of his own Blackshield fleet made up of dispossessed legionaries called the &amp;quot;Dark Brotherhood&amp;quot; until he was approached by Garro for recruitment, a meeting which the [[Alpha Legion]] did their best to foul up. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop he&#039;s probably one of the higher tier challenge characters out there (not counting Primarchs), coming runner up to [[Sigismund]] in lethality but is superior in terms of survivability. He&#039;s got Toughness 5, &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior, Adamantium Will&#039;&#039;, 2+/4+ saves and rerolls failed saves against Blast or Template weapons. He also has a S+1 AP2 sword which inflicts -1 WS to enemies in a challenge and strikes at initiative. He also causes &#039;&#039;Fear&#039;&#039; and is &#039;&#039;Fearless&#039;&#039;, meaning he can&#039;t be overrun and has a chance of just trolling generic legionaries who are not immune to fear. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are two versions of him, representing him as the commander of the Dark Brotherhood in a Blackshields army, or can be taken by any Loyalist force if you upgrade to Knight-Errant, making him even deadlier in a challenge with &#039;&#039;Preferred Enemy (Traitors)&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Trivia:&#039;&#039;&#039; Both his name and his armour are allusions to [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|lions]], which is no surprise given his supposed heritage. The &#039;&#039;&#039;Nemean Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was slain as the first of the twelve labours of Heracles, while the pelt of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Cithaeron Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was worn by Heracles and was said to be impervious, which accounts for the sheer number of benefits granted by his Kithaeron warplate.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Others===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Macer Varren&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[World Eaters]] Captain who was one of a group of loyalist refugees that fled to the Terran Solar system, a cockney-marine (despite being visualized as Scottish Gerard Butler) and an utter badass. Surprisingly level-headed for someone with the Butcher&#039;s Nails jammed into his brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sevarian (The Wolf)&#039;&#039;&#039; - Not a Space Wolf, though artwork portrays him to look similar to one, but a [[Luna Wolves|Luna Wolf]]. He was a member of the Crusader Host (basically Space Marine Ambassadors to Terra) but was imprisoned on Terra with all bar the Imperial Fists due to suspicion. He broke out of prison and was brought back into the fold by the Samurai (not kidding) Nasagena. He is a latent psyker whose powers were unlocked by Magnus&#039; psychic message that broke the Golden Throne, though Malcador explains it such that Sevarian uses them so instinctually that he does not know he has them, which makes him unique.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sevarian was also an early addition to the Knights-Errant, being recruited by Malcador directly about two years into the Heresy, but was recruited before Rubio since it was Sevarian&#039;s psychic abilities which that identified other potential candidates for recruitment, giving Garro a list of twenty names to find.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bror Tyrfinger&#039;&#039;&#039; - An actual Space Wolf. His name translates to &amp;quot;Brother Bullfinger&amp;quot; in danish, so that&#039;s at least something. Tyrfing is also a name of the sword made by dwarves in the legend of Tyrfing. It was said that due to this it could never rust, dull or miss; but it also carried a curse of having to kill a man each time it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares Voitek&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Hands]] Techmarine. Also knows how to whip up alcohol on the fly. Even Dorn gets in on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fel Zharost&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Night Lords]] Chief Librarian who, was exiled by [[Sevatar]] after the Edict of Nikaea mostly because no-one could be bothered to care about the Librarius except Zharost himself. He somehow fled to Terra and was eventually collected for induction into the Knights-Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Vardas Ison&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Librarian, [[Lexicanum|assumed]] Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Theodor Ruttveld&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Space Wolf, was assigned to watch over Konrad Curze and ensure that the Edict of Nikaea [[Fail|was obeyed]]. Heavily maimed by Curze and delivered to Terra [[Grimdark|as a message]]. It is uncertain if he is to become a Knight-Errant though he he kept alive on the Sigillite&#039;s Authority and it is made clear that he it to be kept as whole as possible and not interred in a Dreadnought.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Kaspian Hecht \ Barthusa Narek:&#039;&#039;&#039; A bit of a mystery;  Narek was a member of the [[Word Bearers]] who still believed in the divinity of the Emperor and wanted to kill [[Lorgar]] to sort out his Legion&#039;s problems; however he had no apparent interest in joining the &amp;quot;Loyalist&amp;quot; cause. He was captured on [[Macragge]], and even though [[Inquisition|he wasn&#039;t a traitor, he was interrogated daily and to be executed if he incriminated himself]]. However he somehow escaped and was implanted with the memories of a separate person: &amp;quot;Kaspian Hecht&amp;quot; who was apparently on his way towards Macragge to recruit someone for the Knights-Errant. How or why this was done is as yet unknown, but Narek eventually sorts his memories out though it&#039;s not yet known if he&#039;ll remain as one of the Knights Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deceased Members===&lt;br /&gt;
As we know several members were inducted into the Knights Errant, but many did not survive, and considering that the number above is greater than eight, we know that several more will perish or find other duties.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iacton Qruze&#039;&#039;&#039; - One of the oldest members of the Luna Wolves and one of the few Legionaries who had been recruited before Horus was found. Referred to as &amp;quot;The Half-Heard&amp;quot; mostly because no-one was paying attention to what the old coot was saying. Got the job of overseeing the prisons on Titan for people who know far too much to be let loose in the Imperium, though is killed by Horus on board the Vengeful Spirit when an attempt at placing teleport beacons for the Space Wolves to deep strike aboard was discovered. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Tubal Cayne&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Warriors]] member of the Crusader Host like Severian.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Rama Karayan&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Raven Guard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Altan Nohai&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[White Scars]] Apothecary&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Callion Zaven&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] Champion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grey Knight Grand Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
We know that there were eight Grand Masters who travelled with Malcador to Titan when it was cast into the warp, unfortunately we don&#039;t yet know who they all are yet, and is made more difficult to guess since Grey Knights ritually change their names to mirror their daemonic foes. In [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Emperor&#039;s Gift&#039;&#039;, all eight are long dead and entombed together in the Chapter&#039;s cemetery on Titan. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;1. Janus&#039;&#039;&#039; - Known to us as the first Supreme Grand Master, though his original name and legion remain unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering a bunch of circumstantial evidence One candidate to Janus&#039; identity &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; (stressed &amp;quot;could&amp;quot;) be the Twin-Primarch [[Omegon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**Garro is a contender if only because of him being the leader of the Knights-Errant, however author James Swallow put a knock-back on this in White Dwarf December 2012 when he emphatically stated that Garro is &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;not a Grey Knight... and where his fate lies is much more complicated than that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Though it doesn&#039;t actually stop the conspiracy theorists from reading whatever they want into it.&lt;br /&gt;
***The stories &#039;&#039;&#039;Shield of Lies&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp; &#039;&#039;&#039;Vow of Faith&#039;&#039;&#039; both cement that Garro &#039;&#039;definitely isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; going to be a Grey Knight when the character tells himself and his companions that his ultimate fate does not lie on Titan with Malcador&#039;s warriors in grey.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;5. Epimetheus&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Dark Angels]] psyker of prodigious strength who survived into the 41st Millennium by being trapped in the Damnation Cache on Pandorax. Epimethius would eventually be captured by [[Abaddon]] and given to [[Fulgrim]] in a bid to gain the allegiance of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] for the 13th Black Crusade, Epimethius himself was intended to become the [[What|Avatar of Slaanesh]].&lt;br /&gt;
**His original name is unknown, but one consideration could have been [[Zahariel]] who may have joined the Knights-Errant instead of the intended membership of [[Cypher]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;8. Khyron&#039;&#039;&#039; - First Grand Master of the Eighth Brotherhood, and with a name close to &amp;quot;bat&amp;quot; in Greek, his tomb on Titan depicts a helmeted warrior leaning casually on a halberd. The tomb&#039;s epitaph closes with &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers.’&#039;&#039;. As the halberd and casual attitude was the hallmark of the Eighth Legion&#039;s First Captain [[Sevatar]], and Jago Sevatarion was last seen in Imperial hands relearning his psychic gift at the end of ADB&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Longest Night&#039;&#039;, many Night Lords fanboys believe it is Sevatar. Having once betrayed the Emperor but then disillusioned with Chaos and Horus, could he have then betrayed his brothers in the the Eighth to return to the Imperial fold? Only ADB knows, and he hasn&#039;t gotten us that far yet. That said, the Night Lords were the 8th legion too.. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Abaddon]] claimed to know of the eight original founders and stated that one was an [[Ultramarine]] while another was his &amp;quot;erstwhile brother&amp;quot;. Thus it&#039;s increasingly likely that Rubio and Loken (or Sevarian) are two of the first Grand Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human Members==&lt;br /&gt;
While not necessarily Knights-Errant, we also know that four humans were recruited by Malcador to form the founding members of the Inquisition.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Amendera Kendel&#039;&#039;&#039; - &#039;&#039;Agentia Tercius&#039;&#039; to Malcador (after Garro himself) and a former [[Sisters of Silence|Sister of Silence]]. She is still a Pariah of course, but she gave up her vow to become one of the first members of Malcador&#039;s [[Inquisition|band of merry travellers]]. She is quite possibly the first &amp;quot;True&amp;quot; Inquisitor, by virtue of her background as a Witch-Hunter  and the later development of her character which shows her radically using the authority granted to her by the Sigillite to get shit done: Co-opting Space Marines from the survivors of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039; into her retinue, and later ordering a battle-barge to enact &#039;&#039;[[Exterminatus]]&#039;&#039; on a planet turned renegade, despite the fact that &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;no-one&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; other than a Primarch or the Emperor himself had ever ordered such an act before her.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Yasu Nagasena&#039;&#039;&#039; - the Last Samurai and expert tracker who was tasked with finding the Outcast Dead, then chasing down and killing Sevarian. He was only stopped from doing so by Malcador who wanted them both for his [[Inquisition|new project]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Khalid Hassan&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Stormtrooper who was into the Sigillite&#039;s employ to collect an artefact from Egypt, despite being told not to look into the box, he did and was brought before Malcador to explain himself. It turns out that the artefact was the &#039;&#039;Rosetta Stone&#039;&#039; and Malcador was part of an order that kept history and learning safe and intact. He also gets shown the doorway to the Emperor&#039;s Webway.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Katanoh Tallery&#039;&#039;&#039; - a scribe who discovered that someone was using galactic scale tax avoidance schemes to fund and build a legion sized force under the Imperium&#039;s nose and within their territory. She was aided by Garro in finding who was diverting Imperial equipment in such an underhanded manner. Turns out it was Malcador and he was pissed at Garro for uncovering the Grey Knight fortress on Titan before it was finished, but was convinced to keep Tallery in order to better manage the bookkeeping. It&#039;s unlikely she is going to end up being an Inquisitor though. (Although, looking for funny spending would be an excellent way to find heretics... In fact, Eisenhorn uncovers a coven of heretics due to unusual accounting).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Knight-Errant&#039;&#039;&#039; are/were a group of [[Space Marines]] brought together from various different [[First Founding|Legions]] at the behest of [[Malcador the Sigillite]] in order to create a cadre of the best and brightest that the space marines had to offer, and use them to form a [[Grey Knights|new Chapter]] to combat the threat of daemons and dark magic that the [[Imperium]] was not prepared to fight against, due to the erasure of all knowledge of them as part of the Imperial Truth. Members of the Traitor Legions which refused to follow their Primarchs into corruption, made up a surprisingly large part of their number. Having proven themselves truly pure and strong of spirit in the face of absolute corruption and despair, the Knights-Errant offered these legion-less marines, a new purpose, away from the taint of their old Legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is evidence for them being the forerunners of [[Grey Knights]]. Despite what we think we know of the original Grey Knights and that eight of the initial recruits would become the first Grand Masters of the new chapters, those that initially joined the first member, [[Nathaniel Garro]], were not necessarily destined to become Grey Knights themselves. Author [[James Swallow]] has come out and said as much himself in an interview. In any case, most of these Knights would not survive the Horus Heresy anyway, but it&#039;s worth knowing that these guys possessed a very special and believable type of [[awesome]] (unlike [[Kaldor Draigo|this guy]]), and loads of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Known Members==&lt;br /&gt;
===Nathaniel Garro===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Death Guard]] Captain of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039;. The first member. The guy who fled the massacre at Istvaan III and managed to bring word of the Horus Heresy to the Imperium, thanks to his honor-brother, and a very cool guy, Saul Tarvitz of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. On the way there, he also became the first of the Loyalists to encounter what would later be known as the Plague Marines, as the corpses of his traitorous legion-brothers came back to life as they traveled through the warp.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was given a list of twenty names from Sevarian &#039;&#039;(see below)&#039;&#039; who would become the Knights-Errant, and the task of collecting them woukd take him all over the galaxy during the Horus Heresy, from Calth &#039;&#039;(through the Ruinstorm no less)&#039;&#039; all the way back to Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would attempt to sneak into the [[Phalanx]] to recruit some Imperial Fist librarians &amp;quot;incarcerated&amp;quot; there, but was caught and turned away as they were happy eenough as is.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would also win to a duel with a mid-ranked Custodian, though even he admitted the effort taxed his abilities and he only won through playing to the particular individual&#039;s overconfidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Garro would also unwittingly uncover Malcador&#039;s plans to build a new [[Grey Knights|Astartes force on Titan]]  intended for the coming war &amp;quot;after&amp;quot; the Horus Heresy. Though he initially believed it to be a traitor force because of the secrecy involved with its construction. &lt;br /&gt;
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Partly because of those shrouded circumstances and the uncomfortable lengths the Sigillite would go to to protect humanity, Garro would repeatedly say that his ultimate fate would not lie on Titan. Therefore while he is a major contributor to the Grey Knights, it is unlikely he will be one of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Given rules as part of the lead-up to HH Book 6 &#039;Retribution&#039;, Garro can be a trolltastic addition to an army. He&#039;s built up as a challenge character, earning double combat resolution scores and gaining a 3+ invulnerable save. Despite this, he&#039;s not a combat monster, as &#039;&#039;Libertas&#039;&#039; is only a two-handed blade with AP3, despite having Rending. However, Garro&#039;s Death Guard resilience shows through, having &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior&#039;&#039; AND the chance to get back from death the first time he kicks the bucket during battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Garviel Loken===&lt;br /&gt;
Captain of the [[Luna Wolves]] 10th Company, who is very much the protagonist of the first trilogy of Horus Heresy novels. He was known for being able to think independently and rationally, as well as being exceptionally humane for an Astartes. A true stoic and a principle person, as well as a bad-ass. Was thought dead after the planet he was on was bombed with virus- and then fire bombs, surviving a 3 month siege by 4 traitor legions and a warlord titan, after being defeated by [[Abaddon]] in a duel and after having a building collapse on him, trapping him in the rubble, while the planet was being bombed into dust for a second time, this time with cyclone bombs. [[Not as planned|But NOPE]]! When Nathaniel Garro first discovered him, survivor&#039;s guilt and distrust had driven him half mad and he was convinced he was the only Loyalist left alive in the Imperium. Calling himself Cerberus, due to an inability to remember his own name, he then forced a reign of terror upon the totally dead, but [[Nurgle|reanimated]] population (read: Plague Zombies) of Isstvan III. Was supposedly the final member that Garro would recruit according to Malcador, although other members were inducted after Loken himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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His major highlights include:&lt;br /&gt;
*Being a member of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Mournival&#039;&#039;&#039;: the four advisors of Horus Lupercal, along with Abaddon, Tarik Torggadon, and &amp;quot;Little Horus&amp;quot; Aximand.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hilariously making [[Lucius]] his bitch in a duel, pointing out beforehand, that the duel would not be about their skill in blades. As he saw Lucius make the first move, he dropped his sword and in one stroke won the duel, by breaking that arrogant prick&#039;s nose into smithereens with a single punch, ruining Lucius&#039; &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; face and by making the first mark upon it. This trick was later over-exaggeratedly used again, by Saul Tarvitz. &lt;br /&gt;
*Fighting Abaddon himself on Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
*Making [[Kharn]] his side bitch by going toe to toe with him and then impaling the dude on the dozer blades of an advancing [[chaos|spikey]] land raider. What a fucking savage.&lt;br /&gt;
*Being present on [[Caliban]] during the [[Fallen Angels|Fallen uprising]] who had been largely ignorant of the Heresy, and quite possibly throwing a lit match on the whole powder keg.&lt;br /&gt;
*Possibly being a founding member of the Grey Knights.&lt;br /&gt;
*Giving Horus and an overwhelming majority of his traitor legion a virtual bitch-slap by turning his back on them when he asked to join the rebellion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Formerly the only member with tabletop rules in Horus Heresy, though that&#039;s his pre-Knight status, when he is a Legion Praetor character with Initiative 6 and a Paragon Blade, with the ability to get back from the dead once per game. Strangely he&#039;s the only Praetor with Power Armour (Sevatar, Ophion) rather than the standard issue Artificer Armour as the typical attire for Praetors, though he does get an Iron Halo which usually has to be bought for extra dough.&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve yet to see Loken as a Knight Errant, but no doubt Forgeworld will just take his original rules and slap on the option to upgrade to the generic &amp;quot;Knight Errant&amp;quot; rules for a few points in an updated list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Tylos Rubio===&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ultramarines]] Librarian who was the first member to be inducted by Garro. He was recruited in the midst of the [[Battle of Calth]]. Rubio would essentially become the Garro&#039;s second in command for several missions, and got his own job of travelling to Baal to collect all of the wargear of the Blood Angels (to give to the future Grey Knights) when everyone thought Sanguinius had fallen at Signus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rubio is one of the more powerful/reliable psykers on the tabletop of his era (which isn&#039;t hard as his primary competition is generic Librarians or special characters with &amp;quot;repressed&amp;quot; abilities). So compared to a Librarian, he&#039;s a ML2 psyker who can reroll failed Psychic tests when manifesting &#039;&#039;Divination&#039;&#039; powers, meaning he&#039;s practically guaranteed to cast. He&#039;s also no slouch in combat either, with Init 5 stock and can invest his warp charges into his Force Sword granting +1 Strength for each charge not spent on a power, meaning he can quite happily smack a bitch, although only at AP3 since its still just a sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Nemean Reaver===&lt;br /&gt;
His real name is unknown, but it is widely suspected (and also confirmed by statements from himself) that he was a Dark Angel. Heavily injured in the Rangdan Xenocides, he is supposed to be a mess of scar tissue and [[Rage]]. Was the head of his own Blackshield fleet made up of dispossessed legionaries called the &amp;quot;Dark Brotherhood&amp;quot; until he was approached by Garro for recruitment, a meeting which the [[Alpha Legion]] did their best to foul up. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop he&#039;s probably one of the higher tier challenge characters out there (not counting Primarchs), coming runner up to [[Sigismund]] in lethality but is superior in terms of survivability. He&#039;s got Toughness 5, &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior, Adamantium Will&#039;&#039;, 2+/4+ saves and rerolls failed saves against Blast or Template weapons. He also has a S+1 AP2 sword which inflicts -1 WS to enemies in a challenge and strikes at initiative. He also causes &#039;&#039;Fear&#039;&#039; and is &#039;&#039;Fearless&#039;&#039;, meaning he can&#039;t be overrun and has a chance of just trolling generic legionaries who are not immune to fear. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are two versions of him, representing him as the commander of the Dark Brotherhood in a Blackshields army, or can be taken by any Loyalist force if you upgrade to Knight-Errant, making him even deadlier in a challenge with &#039;&#039;Preferred Enemy (Traitors)&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Trivia:&#039;&#039;&#039; Both his name and his armour are allusions to [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|lions]], which is no surprise given his supposed heritage. The &#039;&#039;&#039;Nemean Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was slain as the first of the twelve labours of Heracles, while the pelt of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Cithaeron Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was worn by Heracles and was said to be impervious, which accounts for the sheer number of benefits granted by his Kithaeron warplate.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Others===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Macer Varren&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[World Eaters]] Captain who was one of a group of loyalist refugees that fled to the Terran Solar system, a cockney-marine (despite being visualized as Scottish Gerard Butler) and an utter badass. Surprisingly level-headed for someone with the Butcher&#039;s Nails jammed into his brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sevarian (The Wolf)&#039;&#039;&#039; - Not a Space Wolf, though artwork portrays him to look similar to one, but a [[Luna Wolves|Luna Wolf]]. He was a member of the Crusader Host (basically Space Marine Ambassadors to Terra) but was imprisoned on Terra with all bar the Imperial Fists due to suspicion. He broke out of prison and was brought back into the fold by the Samurai (not kidding) Nasagena. He is a latent psyker whose powers were unlocked by Magnus&#039; psychic message that broke the Golden Throne, though Malcador explains it such that Sevarian uses them so instinctually that he does not know he has them, which makes him unique.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sevarian was also an early addition to the Knights-Errant, being recruited by Malcador directly about two years into the Heresy, but was recruited before Rubio since it was Sevarian&#039;s psychic abilities which that identified other potential candidates for recruitment, giving Garro a list of twenty names to find.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bror Tyrfinger&#039;&#039;&#039; - An actual Space Wolf. His name translates to &amp;quot;Brother Bullfinger&amp;quot; in danish, so that&#039;s at least something. Tyrfing is also a name of the sword made by dwarves in the legend of Tyrfing. It was said that due to this it could never rust, dull or miss; but it also carried a curse of having to kill a man each time it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares Voitek&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Hands]] Techmarine. Also knows how to whip up alcohol on the fly. Even Dorn gets in on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fel Zharost&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Night Lords]] Chief Librarian who, was exiled by [[Sevatar]] after the Edict of Nikaea mostly because no-one could be bothered to care about the Librarius except Zharost himself. He somehow fled to Terra and was eventually collected for induction into the Knights-Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Vardas Ison&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Librarian, [[Lexicanum|assumed]] Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Theodor Ruttveld&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Space Wolf, was assigned to watch over Konrad Curze and ensure that the Edict of Nikaea [[Fail|was obeyed]]. Heavily maimed by Curze and delivered to Terra [[Grimdark|as a message]]. It is uncertain if he is to become a Knight-Errant though he he kept alive on the Sigillite&#039;s Authority and it is made clear that he it to be kept as whole as possible and not interred in a Dreadnought.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Kaspian Hecht \ Barthusa Narek:&#039;&#039;&#039; A bit of a mystery;  Narek was a member of the [[Word Bearers]] who still believed in the divinity of the Emperor and wanted to kill [[Lorgar]] to sort out his Legion&#039;s problems; however he had no apparent interest in joining the &amp;quot;Loyalist&amp;quot; cause. He was captured on [[Macragge]], and even though [[Inquisition|he wasn&#039;t a traitor, he was interrogated daily and to be executed if he incriminated himself]]. However he somehow escaped and was implanted with the memories of a separate person: &amp;quot;Kaspian Hecht&amp;quot; who was apparently on his way towards Macragge to recruit someone for the Knights-Errant. How or why this was done is as yet unknown, but Narek eventually sorts his memories out though it&#039;s not yet known if he&#039;ll remain as one of the Knights Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deceased Members===&lt;br /&gt;
As we know several members were inducted into the Knights Errant, but many did not survive, and considering that the number above is greater than eight, we know that several more will perish or find other duties.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iacton Qruze&#039;&#039;&#039; - One of the oldest members of the Luna Wolves and one of the few Legionaries who had been recruited before Horus was found. Referred to as &amp;quot;The Half-Heard&amp;quot; mostly because no-one was paying attention to what the old coot was saying. Got the job of overseeing the prisons on Titan for people who know far too much to be let loose in the Imperium, though is killed by Horus on board the Vengeful Spirit when an attempt at placing teleport beacons for the Space Wolves to deep strike aboard was discovered. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Tubal Cayne&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Warriors]] member of the Crusader Host like Severian.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Rama Karayan&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Raven Guard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Altan Nohai&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[White Scars]] Apothecary&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Callion Zaven&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] Champion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grey Knight Grand Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
We know that there were eight Grand Masters who travelled with Malcador to Titan when it was cast into the warp, unfortunately we don&#039;t yet know who they all are yet, and is made more difficult to guess since Grey Knights ritually change their names to mirror their daemonic foes. In [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Emperor&#039;s Gift&#039;&#039;, all eight are long dead and entombed together in the Chapter&#039;s cemetery on Titan. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;1. Janus&#039;&#039;&#039; - Known to us as the first Supreme Grand Master, though his original name and legion remain unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering a bunch of circumstantial evidence One candidate to Janus&#039; identity &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; (stressed &amp;quot;could&amp;quot;) be the Twin-Primarch [[Omegon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**Garro is a contender if only because of him being the leader of the Knights-Errant, however author James Swallow put a knock-back on this in White Dwarf December 2012 when he emphatically stated that Garro is &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;not a Grey Knight... and where his fate lies is much more complicated than that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Though it doesn&#039;t actually stop the conspiracy theorists from reading whatever they want into it.&lt;br /&gt;
***The stories &#039;&#039;&#039;Shield of Lies&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp; &#039;&#039;&#039;Vow of Faith&#039;&#039;&#039; both cement that Garro &#039;&#039;definitely isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; going to be a Grey Knight when the character tells himself and his companions that his ultimate fate does not lie on Titan with Malcador&#039;s warriors in grey.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;5. Epimetheus&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Dark Angels]] psyker of prodigious strength who survived into the 41st Millennium by being trapped in the Damnation Cache on Pandorax. Epimethius would eventually be captured by [[Abaddon]] and given to [[Fulgrim]] in a bid to gain the allegiance of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] for the 13th Black Crusade, Epimethius himself was intended to become the [[What|Avatar of Slaanesh]].&lt;br /&gt;
**His original name is unknown, but one consideration could have been [[Zahariel]] who may have joined the Knights-Errant instead of the intended membership of [[Cypher]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;8. Khyron&#039;&#039;&#039; - First Grand Master of the Eighth Brotherhood, and with a name close to &amp;quot;bat&amp;quot; in Greek, his tomb on Titan depicts a helmeted warrior leaning casually on a halberd. The tomb&#039;s epitaph closes with &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers.’&#039;&#039;. As the halberd and casual attitude was the hallmark of the Eighth Legion&#039;s First Captain [[Sevatar]], and Jago Sevatarion was last seen in Imperial hands relearning his psychic gift at the end of ADB&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Longest Night&#039;&#039;, many Night Lords fanboys believe it is Sevatar. Having once betrayed the Emperor but then disillusioned with Chaos and Horus, could he have then betrayed his brothers in the the Eighth to return to the Imperial fold? Only ADB knows, and he hasn&#039;t gotten us that far yet. That said, the Night Lords were the 8th legion too.. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Abaddon]] claimed to know of the eight original founders and stated that one was an [[Ultramarine]] while another was his &amp;quot;erstwhile brother&amp;quot;. Thus it&#039;s increasingly likely that Rubio and Loken (more likely, Sevarian) are two of the first Grand Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human Members==&lt;br /&gt;
While not necessarily Knights-Errant, we also know that four humans were recruited by Malcador to form the founding members of the Inquisition.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Amendera Kendel&#039;&#039;&#039; - &#039;&#039;Agentia Tercius&#039;&#039; to Malcador (after Garro himself) and a former [[Sisters of Silence|Sister of Silence]]. She is still a Pariah of course, but she gave up her vow to become one of the first members of Malcador&#039;s [[Inquisition|band of merry travellers]]. She is quite possibly the first &amp;quot;True&amp;quot; Inquisitor, by virtue of her background as a Witch-Hunter  and the later development of her character which shows her radically using the authority granted to her by the Sigillite to get shit done: Co-opting Space Marines from the survivors of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039; into her retinue, and later ordering a battle-barge to enact &#039;&#039;[[Exterminatus]]&#039;&#039; on a planet turned renegade, despite the fact that &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;no-one&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; other than a Primarch or the Emperor himself had ever ordered such an act before her.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Yasu Nagasena&#039;&#039;&#039; - the Last Samurai and expert tracker who was tasked with finding the Outcast Dead, then chasing down and killing Sevarian. He was only stopped from doing so by Malcador who wanted them both for his [[Inquisition|new project]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Khalid Hassan&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Stormtrooper who was into the Sigillite&#039;s employ to collect an artefact from Egypt, despite being told not to look into the box, he did and was brought before Malcador to explain himself. It turns out that the artefact was the &#039;&#039;Rosetta Stone&#039;&#039; and Malcador was part of an order that kept history and learning safe and intact. He also gets shown the doorway to the Emperor&#039;s Webway.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Katanoh Tallery&#039;&#039;&#039; - a scribe who discovered that someone was using galactic scale tax avoidance schemes to fund and build a legion sized force under the Imperium&#039;s nose and within their territory. She was aided by Garro in finding who was diverting Imperial equipment in such an underhanded manner. Turns out it was Malcador and he was pissed at Garro for uncovering the Grey Knight fortress on Titan before it was finished, but was convinced to keep Tallery in order to better manage the bookkeeping. It&#039;s unlikely she is going to end up being an Inquisitor though. (Although, looking for funny spending would be an excellent way to find heretics... In fact, Eisenhorn uncovers a coven of heretics due to unusual accounting).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Knights-Errant</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2602:304:CE19:5A10:C439:F84:829E:527E: /* Grey Knight Grand Masters */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Knight-Errant&#039;&#039;&#039; are/were a group of [[Space Marines]] brought together from various different [[First Founding|Legions]] at the behest of [[Malcador the Sigillite]] in order to create a cadre of the best and brightest that the space marines had to offer, and use them to form a [[Grey Knights|new Chapter]] to combat the threat of daemons and dark magic that the [[Imperium]] was not prepared to fight against, due to the erasure of all knowledge of them as part of the Imperial Truth. Members of the Traitor Legions which refused to follow their Primarchs into corruption, made up a surprisingly large part of their number. Having proven themselves truly pure and strong of spirit in the face of absolute corruption and despair, the Knights-Errant offered these legion-less marines, a new purpose, away from the taint of their old Legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is evidence for them being the forerunners of [[Grey Knights]]. Despite what we think we know of the original Grey Knights and that eight of the initial recruits would become the first Grand Masters of the new chapters, those that initially joined the first member, [[Nathaniel Garro]], were not necessarily destined to become Grey Knights themselves. Author [[James Swallow]] has come out and said as much himself in an interview. In any case, most of these Knights would not survive the Horus Heresy anyway, but it&#039;s worth knowing that these guys possessed a very special and believable type of [[awesome]] (unlike [[Kaldor Draigo|this guy]]), and loads of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Known Members==&lt;br /&gt;
===Nathaniel Garro===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Death Guard]] Captain of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039;. The first member. The guy who fled the massacre at Istvaan III and managed to bring word of the Horus Heresy to the Imperium, thanks to his honor-brother, and a very cool guy, Saul Tarvitz of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. On the way there, he also became the first of the Loyalists to encounter what would later be known as the Plague Marines, as the corpses of his traitorous legion-brothers came back to life as they traveled through the warp.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was given a list of twenty names from Sevarian &#039;&#039;(see below)&#039;&#039; who would become the Knights-Errant, and the task of collecting them woukd take him all over the galaxy during the Horus Heresy, from Calth &#039;&#039;(through the Ruinstorm no less)&#039;&#039; all the way back to Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would attempt to sneak into the [[Phalanx]] to recruit some Imperial Fist librarians &amp;quot;incarcerated&amp;quot; there, but was caught and turned away as they were happy eenough as is.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would also win to a duel with a mid-ranked Custodian, though even he admitted the effort taxed his abilities and he only won through playing to the particular individual&#039;s overconfidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Garro would also unwittingly uncover Malcador&#039;s plans to build a new [[Grey Knights|Astartes force on Titan]]  intended for the coming war &amp;quot;after&amp;quot; the Horus Heresy. Though he initially believed it to be a traitor force because of the secrecy involved with its construction. &lt;br /&gt;
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Partly because of those shrouded circumstances and the uncomfortable lengths the Sigillite would go to to protect humanity, Garro would repeatedly say that his ultimate fate would not lie on Titan. Therefore while he is a major contributor to the Grey Knights, it is unlikely he will be one of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Given rules as part of the lead-up to HH Book 6 &#039;Retribution&#039;, Garro can be a trolltastic addition to an army. He&#039;s built up as a challenge character, earning double combat resolution scores and gaining a 3+ invulnerable save. Despite this, he&#039;s not a combat monster, as &#039;&#039;Libertas&#039;&#039; is only a two-handed blade with AP3, despite having Rending. However, Garro&#039;s Death Guard resilience shows through, having &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior&#039;&#039; AND the chance to get back from death the first time he kicks the bucket during battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Garviel Loken===&lt;br /&gt;
Captain of the [[Luna Wolves]] 10th Company, who is very much the protagonist of the first trilogy of Horus Heresy novels. He was known for being able to think independently and rationally, as well as being exceptionally humane for an Astartes. A true stoic and a principle person, as well as a bad-ass. Was thought dead after the planet he was on was bombed with virus- and then fire bombs, surviving a 3 month siege by 4 traitor legions and a warlord titan, after being defeated by [[Abaddon]] in a duel and after having a building collapse on him, trapping him in the rubble, while the planet was being bombed into dust for a second time, this time with cyclone bombs. [[Not as planned|But NOPE]]! When Nathaniel Garro first discovered him, survivor&#039;s guilt and distrust had driven him half mad and he was convinced he was the only Loyalist left alive in the Imperium. Calling himself Cerberus, due to an inability to remember his own name, he then forced a reign of terror upon the totally dead, but [[Nurgle|reanimated]] population (read: Plague Zombies) of Isstvan III. Was supposedly the final member that Garro would recruit according to Malcador, although other members were inducted after Loken himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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His major highlights include:&lt;br /&gt;
*Being a member of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Mournival&#039;&#039;&#039;: the four advisors of Horus Lupercal, along with Abaddon, Tarik Torggadon, and &amp;quot;Little Horus&amp;quot; Aximand.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hilariously making [[Lucius]] his bitch in a duel, pointing out beforehand, that the duel would not be about their skill in blades. As he saw Lucius make the first move, he dropped his sword and in one stroke won the duel, by breaking that arrogant prick&#039;s nose into smithereens with a single punch, ruining Lucius&#039; &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; face and by making the first mark upon it. This trick was later over-exaggeratedly used again, by Saul Tarvitz. &lt;br /&gt;
*Fighting Abaddon himself on Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
*Making [[Kharn]] his side bitch by going toe to toe with him and then impaling the dude on the dozer blades of an advancing [[chaos|spikey]] land raider. What a fucking savage.&lt;br /&gt;
*Being present on [[Caliban]] during the [[Fallen Angels|Fallen uprising]] who had been largely ignorant of the Heresy, and quite possibly throwing a lit match on the whole powder keg.&lt;br /&gt;
*Possibly being a founding member of the Grey Knights.&lt;br /&gt;
*Giving Horus and an overwhelming majority of his traitor legion a virtual bitch-slap by turning his back on them when he asked to join the rebellion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Formerly the only member with tabletop rules in Horus Heresy, though that&#039;s his pre-Knight status, when he is a Legion Praetor character with Initiative 6 and a Paragon Blade, with the ability to get back from the dead once per game. Strangely he&#039;s the only Praetor with Power Armour (Sevatar, Ophion) rather than the standard issue Artificer Armour as the typical attire for Praetors, though he does get an Iron Halo which usually has to be bought for extra dough.&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve yet to see Loken as a Knight Errant, but no doubt Forgeworld will just take his original rules and slap on the option to upgrade to the generic &amp;quot;Knight Errant&amp;quot; rules for a few points in an updated list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Tylos Rubio===&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ultramarines]] Librarian who was the first member to be inducted by Garro. He was recruited in the midst of the [[Battle of Calth]]. Rubio would essentially become the Garro&#039;s second in command for several missions, and got his own job of travelling to Baal to collect all of the wargear of the Blood Angels (to give to the future Grey Knights) when everyone thought Sanguinius had fallen at Signus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rubio is one of the more powerful/reliable psykers on the tabletop of his era (which isn&#039;t hard as his primary competition is generic Librarians or special characters with &amp;quot;repressed&amp;quot; abilities). So compared to a Librarian, he&#039;s a ML2 psyker who can reroll failed Psychic tests when manifesting &#039;&#039;Divination&#039;&#039; powers, meaning he&#039;s practically guaranteed to cast. He&#039;s also no slouch in combat either, with Init 5 stock and can invest his warp charges into his Force Sword granting +1 Strength for each charge not spent on a power, meaning he can quite happily smack a bitch, although only at AP3 since its still just a sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Nemean Reaver===&lt;br /&gt;
His real name is unknown, but it is widely suspected (and also confirmed by statements from himself) that he was a Dark Angel. Heavily injured in the Rangdan Xenocides, he is supposed to be a mess of scar tissue and [[Rage]]. Was the head of his own Blackshield fleet made up of dispossessed legionaries called the &amp;quot;Dark Brotherhood&amp;quot; until he was approached by Garro for recruitment, a meeting which the [[Alpha Legion]] did their best to foul up. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop he&#039;s probably one of the higher tier challenge characters out there (not counting Primarchs), coming runner up to [[Sigismund]] in lethality but is superior in terms of survivability. He&#039;s got Toughness 5, &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior, Adamantium Will&#039;&#039;, 2+/4+ saves and rerolls failed saves against Blast or Template weapons. He also has a S+1 AP2 sword which inflicts -1 WS to enemies in a challenge and strikes at initiative. He also causes &#039;&#039;Fear&#039;&#039; and is &#039;&#039;Fearless&#039;&#039;, meaning he can&#039;t be overrun and has a chance of just trolling generic legionaries who are not immune to fear. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are two versions of him, representing him as the commander of the Dark Brotherhood in a Blackshields army, or can be taken by any Loyalist force if you upgrade to Knight-Errant, making him even deadlier in a challenge with &#039;&#039;Preferred Enemy (Traitors)&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Trivia:&#039;&#039;&#039; Both his name and his armour are allusions to [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|lions]], which is no surprise given his supposed heritage. The &#039;&#039;&#039;Nemean Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was slain as the first of the twelve labours of Heracles, while the pelt of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Cithaeron Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was worn by Heracles and was said to be impervious, which accounts for the sheer number of benefits granted by his Kithaeron warplate.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Others===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Macer Varren&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[World Eaters]] Captain who was one of a group of loyalist refugees that fled to the Terran Solar system, a cockney-marine (despite being visualized as Scottish Gerard Butler) and an utter badass. Surprisingly level-headed for someone with the Butcher&#039;s Nails jammed into his brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sevarian (The Wolf)&#039;&#039;&#039; - Not a Space Wolf, though artwork portrays him to look similar to one, but a [[Luna Wolves|Luna Wolf]]. He was a member of the Crusader Host (basically Space Marine Ambassadors to Terra) but was imprisoned on Terra with all bar the Imperial Fists due to suspicion. He broke out of prison and was brought back into the fold by the Samurai (not kidding) Nasagena. He is a latent psyker whose powers were unlocked by Magnus&#039; psychic message that broke the Golden Throne, though Malcador explains it such that Sevarian uses them so instinctually that he does not know he has them, which makes him unique.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sevarian was also an early addition to the Knights-Errant, being recruited by Malcador directly about two years into the Heresy, but was recruited before Rubio since it was Sevarian&#039;s psychic abilities which that identified other potential candidates for recruitment, giving Garro a list of twenty names to find.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bror Tyrfinger&#039;&#039;&#039; - An actual Space Wolf. His name translates to &amp;quot;Brother Bullfinger&amp;quot; in danish, so that&#039;s at least something. Tyrfing is also a name of the sword made by dwarves in the legend of Tyrfing. It was said that due to this it could never rust, dull or miss; but it also carried a curse of having to kill a man each time it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares Voitek&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Hands]] Techmarine. Also knows how to whip up alcohol on the fly. Even Dorn gets in on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fel Zharost&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Night Lords]] Chief Librarian who, was exiled by [[Sevatar]] after the Edict of Nikaea mostly because no-one could be bothered to care about the Librarius except Zharost himself. He somehow fled to Terra and was eventually collected for induction into the Knights-Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Vardas Ison&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Librarian, [[Lexicanum|assumed]] Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Theodor Ruttveld&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Space Wolf, was assigned to watch over Konrad Curze and ensure that the Edict of Nikaea [[Fail|was obeyed]]. Heavily maimed by Curze and delivered to Terra [[Grimdark|as a message]]. It is uncertain if he is to become a Knight-Errant though he he kept alive on the Sigillite&#039;s Authority and it is made clear that he it to be kept as whole as possible and not interred in a Dreadnought.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Kaspian Hecht \ Barthusa Narek:&#039;&#039;&#039; A bit of a mystery;  Narek was a member of the [[Word Bearers]] who still believed in the divinity of the Emperor and wanted to kill [[Lorgar]] to sort out his Legion&#039;s problems; however he had no apparent interest in joining the &amp;quot;Loyalist&amp;quot; cause. He was captured on [[Macragge]], and even though [[Inquisition|he wasn&#039;t a traitor, he was interrogated daily and to be executed if he incriminated himself]]. However he somehow escaped and was implanted with the memories of a separate person: &amp;quot;Kaspian Hecht&amp;quot; who was apparently on his way towards Macragge to recruit someone for the Knights-Errant. How or why this was done is as yet unknown, but Narek eventually sorts his memories out though it&#039;s not yet known if he&#039;ll remain as one of the Knights Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deceased Members===&lt;br /&gt;
As we know several members were inducted into the Knights Errant, but many did not survive, and considering that the number above is greater than eight, we know that several more will perish or find other duties.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iacton Qruze&#039;&#039;&#039; - One of the oldest members of the Luna Wolves and one of the few Legionaries who had been recruited before Horus was found. Referred to as &amp;quot;The Half-Heard&amp;quot; mostly because no-one was paying attention to what the old coot was saying. Got the job of overseeing the prisons on Titan for people who know far too much to be let loose in the Imperium, though is killed by Horus on board the Vengeful Spirit when an attempt at placing teleport beacons for the Space Wolves to deep strike aboard was discovered. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Tubal Cayne&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Warriors]] member of the Crusader Host like Severian.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Rama Karayan&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Raven Guard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Altan Nohai&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[White Scars]] Apothecary&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Callion Zaven&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] Champion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grey Knight Grand Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
We know that there were eight Grand Masters who travelled with Malcador to Titan when it was cast into the warp, unfortunately we don&#039;t yet know who they all are yet, and is made more difficult to guess since Grey Knights ritually change their names to mirror their daemonic foes. In [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Emperor&#039;s Gift&#039;&#039;, all eight are long dead and entombed together in the Chapter&#039;s cemetery on Titan. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;1. Janus&#039;&#039;&#039; - Known to us as the first Supreme Grand Master, though his original name and legion remain unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering a bunch of circumstantial evidence One candidate to Janus&#039; identity &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; (stressed &amp;quot;could&amp;quot;) be the Twin-Primarch [[Omegon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**Garro is a contender if only because of him being the leader of the Knights-Errant, however author James Swallow put a knock-back on this in White Dwarf December 2012 when he emphatically stated that Garro is &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;not a Grey Knight... and where his fate lies is much more complicated than that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Though it doesn&#039;t actually stop the conspiracy theorists from reading whatever they want into it.&lt;br /&gt;
***The stories &#039;&#039;&#039;Shield of Lies&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp; &#039;&#039;&#039;Vow of Faith&#039;&#039;&#039; both cement that Garro &#039;&#039;definitely isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; going to be a Grey Knight when the character tells himself and his companions that his ultimate fate does not lie on Titan with Malcador&#039;s warriors in grey.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;5. Epimetheus&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Dark Angels]] psyker of prodigious strength who survived into the 41st Millennium by being trapped in the Damnation Cache on Pandorax. Epimethius would eventually be captured by [[Abaddon]] and given to [[Fulgrim]] in a bid to gain the allegiance of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] for the 13th Black Crusade, Epimethius himself was intended to become the [[What|Avatar of Slaanesh]].&lt;br /&gt;
**His original name is unknown, but one consideration could have been [[Zahariel]] who may have joined the Knights-Errant instead of the intended membership of [[Cypher]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;8. Khyron&#039;&#039;&#039; - First Grand Master of the Eighth Brotherhood, and with a name close to &amp;quot;bat&amp;quot; in Greek, his tomb on Titan depicts a helmeted warrior leaning casually on a halberd. The tomb&#039;s epitaph closes with &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers.’&#039;&#039;. As the halberd and casual attitude was the hallmark of the Eighth Legion&#039;s First Captain [[Sevatar]], and Jago Sevatarion was last seen in Imperial hands relearning his psychic gift at the end of ADB&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Longest Night&#039;&#039;, many Night Lords fanboys believe it is Sevatar. Having once betrayed the Emperor but then disillusioned with Chaos and Horus, could he have then betrayed his brothers in the the Eighth to return to the Imperial fold? Only ADB knows, and he hasn&#039;t gotten us that far yet. That said, the Night Lords were the 8th legion too.. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Abaddon]] claimed to know of the eight original founders and stated that one was an [[Ultramarine]] while another was his &amp;quot;erstwhile brother&amp;quot;. Thus it&#039;s increasingly likely that Rubio and Loken (more likely, Severian) are two of the first Grand Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human Members==&lt;br /&gt;
While not necessarily Knights-Errant, we also know that four humans were recruited by Malcador to form the founding members of the Inquisition.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Amendera Kendel&#039;&#039;&#039; - &#039;&#039;Agentia Tercius&#039;&#039; to Malcador (after Garro himself) and a former [[Sisters of Silence|Sister of Silence]]. She is still a Pariah of course, but she gave up her vow to become one of the first members of Malcador&#039;s [[Inquisition|band of merry travellers]]. She is quite possibly the first &amp;quot;True&amp;quot; Inquisitor, by virtue of her background as a Witch-Hunter  and the later development of her character which shows her radically using the authority granted to her by the Sigillite to get shit done: Co-opting Space Marines from the survivors of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039; into her retinue, and later ordering a battle-barge to enact &#039;&#039;[[Exterminatus]]&#039;&#039; on a planet turned renegade, despite the fact that &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;no-one&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; other than a Primarch or the Emperor himself had ever ordered such an act before her.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Yasu Nagasena&#039;&#039;&#039; - the Last Samurai and expert tracker who was tasked with finding the Outcast Dead, then chasing down and killing Sevarian. He was only stopped from doing so by Malcador who wanted them both for his [[Inquisition|new project]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Khalid Hassan&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Stormtrooper who was into the Sigillite&#039;s employ to collect an artefact from Egypt, despite being told not to look into the box, he did and was brought before Malcador to explain himself. It turns out that the artefact was the &#039;&#039;Rosetta Stone&#039;&#039; and Malcador was part of an order that kept history and learning safe and intact. He also gets shown the doorway to the Emperor&#039;s Webway.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Katanoh Tallery&#039;&#039;&#039; - a scribe who discovered that someone was using galactic scale tax avoidance schemes to fund and build a legion sized force under the Imperium&#039;s nose and within their territory. She was aided by Garro in finding who was diverting Imperial equipment in such an underhanded manner. Turns out it was Malcador and he was pissed at Garro for uncovering the Grey Knight fortress on Titan before it was finished, but was convinced to keep Tallery in order to better manage the bookkeeping. It&#039;s unlikely she is going to end up being an Inquisitor though. (Although, looking for funny spending would be an excellent way to find heretics... In fact, Eisenhorn uncovers a coven of heretics due to unusual accounting).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]][[Category: Imperial]][[Category:Space Marines]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Knights-Errant</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2602:304:CE19:5A10:C439:F84:829E:527E: /* Grey Knight Grand Masters */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The &#039;&#039;&#039;Knight-Errant&#039;&#039;&#039; are/were a group of [[Space Marines]] brought together from various different [[First Founding|Legions]] at the behest of [[Malcador the Sigillite]] in order to create a cadre of the best and brightest that the space marines had to offer, and use them to form a [[Grey Knights|new Chapter]] to combat the threat of daemons and dark magic that the [[Imperium]] was not prepared to fight against, due to the erasure of all knowledge of them as part of the Imperial Truth. Members of the Traitor Legions which refused to follow their Primarchs into corruption, made up a surprisingly large part of their number. Having proven themselves truly pure and strong of spirit in the face of absolute corruption and despair, the Knights-Errant offered these legion-less marines, a new purpose, away from the taint of their old Legions.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is evidence for them being the forerunners of [[Grey Knights]]. Despite what we think we know of the original Grey Knights and that eight of the initial recruits would become the first Grand Masters of the new chapters, those that initially joined the first member, [[Nathaniel Garro]], were not necessarily destined to become Grey Knights themselves. Author [[James Swallow]] has come out and said as much himself in an interview. In any case, most of these Knights would not survive the Horus Heresy anyway, but it&#039;s worth knowing that these guys possessed a very special and believable type of [[awesome]] (unlike [[Kaldor Draigo|this guy]]), and loads of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Known Members==&lt;br /&gt;
===Nathaniel Garro===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Death Guard]] Captain of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039;. The first member. The guy who fled the massacre at Istvaan III and managed to bring word of the Horus Heresy to the Imperium, thanks to his honor-brother, and a very cool guy, Saul Tarvitz of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]]. On the way there, he also became the first of the Loyalists to encounter what would later be known as the Plague Marines, as the corpses of his traitorous legion-brothers came back to life as they traveled through the warp.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was given a list of twenty names from Sevarian &#039;&#039;(see below)&#039;&#039; who would become the Knights-Errant, and the task of collecting them woukd take him all over the galaxy during the Horus Heresy, from Calth &#039;&#039;(through the Ruinstorm no less)&#039;&#039; all the way back to Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would attempt to sneak into the [[Phalanx]] to recruit some Imperial Fist librarians &amp;quot;incarcerated&amp;quot; there, but was caught and turned away as they were happy eenough as is.&lt;br /&gt;
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He would also win to a duel with a mid-ranked Custodian, though even he admitted the effort taxed his abilities and he only won through playing to the particular individual&#039;s overconfidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Garro would also unwittingly uncover Malcador&#039;s plans to build a new [[Grey Knights|Astartes force on Titan]]  intended for the coming war &amp;quot;after&amp;quot; the Horus Heresy. Though he initially believed it to be a traitor force because of the secrecy involved with its construction. &lt;br /&gt;
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Partly because of those shrouded circumstances and the uncomfortable lengths the Sigillite would go to to protect humanity, Garro would repeatedly say that his ultimate fate would not lie on Titan. Therefore while he is a major contributor to the Grey Knights, it is unlikely he will be one of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Given rules as part of the lead-up to HH Book 6 &#039;Retribution&#039;, Garro can be a trolltastic addition to an army. He&#039;s built up as a challenge character, earning double combat resolution scores and gaining a 3+ invulnerable save. Despite this, he&#039;s not a combat monster, as &#039;&#039;Libertas&#039;&#039; is only a two-handed blade with AP3, despite having Rending. However, Garro&#039;s Death Guard resilience shows through, having &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior&#039;&#039; AND the chance to get back from death the first time he kicks the bucket during battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Garviel Loken===&lt;br /&gt;
Captain of the [[Luna Wolves]] 10th Company, who is very much the protagonist of the first trilogy of Horus Heresy novels. He was known for being able to think independently and rationally, as well as being exceptionally humane for an Astartes. A true stoic and a principle person, as well as a bad-ass. Was thought dead after the planet he was on was bombed with virus- and then fire bombs, surviving a 3 month siege by 4 traitor legions and a warlord titan, after being defeated by [[Abaddon]] in a duel and after having a building collapse on him, trapping him in the rubble, while the planet was being bombed into dust for a second time, this time with cyclone bombs. [[Not as planned|But NOPE]]! When Nathaniel Garro first discovered him, survivor&#039;s guilt and distrust had driven him half mad and he was convinced he was the only Loyalist left alive in the Imperium. Calling himself Cerberus, due to an inability to remember his own name, he then forced a reign of terror upon the totally dead, but [[Nurgle|reanimated]] population (read: Plague Zombies) of Isstvan III. Was supposedly the final member that Garro would recruit according to Malcador, although other members were inducted after Loken himself. &lt;br /&gt;
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His major highlights include:&lt;br /&gt;
*Being a member of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Mournival&#039;&#039;&#039;: the four advisors of Horus Lupercal, along with Abaddon, Tarik Torggadon, and &amp;quot;Little Horus&amp;quot; Aximand.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hilariously making [[Lucius]] his bitch in a duel, pointing out beforehand, that the duel would not be about their skill in blades. As he saw Lucius make the first move, he dropped his sword and in one stroke won the duel, by breaking that arrogant prick&#039;s nose into smithereens with a single punch, ruining Lucius&#039; &amp;quot;perfect&amp;quot; face and by making the first mark upon it. This trick was later over-exaggeratedly used again, by Saul Tarvitz. &lt;br /&gt;
*Fighting Abaddon himself on Isstvan III.&lt;br /&gt;
*Making [[Kharn]] his side bitch by going toe to toe with him and then impaling the dude on the dozer blades of an advancing [[chaos|spikey]] land raider. What a fucking savage.&lt;br /&gt;
*Being present on [[Caliban]] during the [[Fallen Angels|Fallen uprising]] who had been largely ignorant of the Heresy, and quite possibly throwing a lit match on the whole powder keg.&lt;br /&gt;
*Possibly being a founding member of the Grey Knights.&lt;br /&gt;
*Giving Horus and an overwhelming majority of his traitor legion a virtual bitch-slap by turning his back on them when he asked to join the rebellion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Formerly the only member with tabletop rules in Horus Heresy, though that&#039;s his pre-Knight status, when he is a Legion Praetor character with Initiative 6 and a Paragon Blade, with the ability to get back from the dead once per game. Strangely he&#039;s the only Praetor with Power Armour (Sevatar, Ophion) rather than the standard issue Artificer Armour as the typical attire for Praetors, though he does get an Iron Halo which usually has to be bought for extra dough.&lt;br /&gt;
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We&#039;ve yet to see Loken as a Knight Errant, but no doubt Forgeworld will just take his original rules and slap on the option to upgrade to the generic &amp;quot;Knight Errant&amp;quot; rules for a few points in an updated list.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Tylos Rubio===&lt;br /&gt;
An [[Ultramarines]] Librarian who was the first member to be inducted by Garro. He was recruited in the midst of the [[Battle of Calth]]. Rubio would essentially become the Garro&#039;s second in command for several missions, and got his own job of travelling to Baal to collect all of the wargear of the Blood Angels (to give to the future Grey Knights) when everyone thought Sanguinius had fallen at Signus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rubio is one of the more powerful/reliable psykers on the tabletop of his era (which isn&#039;t hard as his primary competition is generic Librarians or special characters with &amp;quot;repressed&amp;quot; abilities). So compared to a Librarian, he&#039;s a ML2 psyker who can reroll failed Psychic tests when manifesting &#039;&#039;Divination&#039;&#039; powers, meaning he&#039;s practically guaranteed to cast. He&#039;s also no slouch in combat either, with Init 5 stock and can invest his warp charges into his Force Sword granting +1 Strength for each charge not spent on a power, meaning he can quite happily smack a bitch, although only at AP3 since its still just a sword.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Nemean Reaver===&lt;br /&gt;
His real name is unknown, but it is widely suspected (and also confirmed by statements from himself) that he was a Dark Angel. Heavily injured in the Rangdan Xenocides, he is supposed to be a mess of scar tissue and [[Rage]]. Was the head of his own Blackshield fleet made up of dispossessed legionaries called the &amp;quot;Dark Brotherhood&amp;quot; until he was approached by Garro for recruitment, a meeting which the [[Alpha Legion]] did their best to foul up. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the tabletop he&#039;s probably one of the higher tier challenge characters out there (not counting Primarchs), coming runner up to [[Sigismund]] in lethality but is superior in terms of survivability. He&#039;s got Toughness 5, &#039;&#039;Eternal Warrior, Adamantium Will&#039;&#039;, 2+/4+ saves and rerolls failed saves against Blast or Template weapons. He also has a S+1 AP2 sword which inflicts -1 WS to enemies in a challenge and strikes at initiative. He also causes &#039;&#039;Fear&#039;&#039; and is &#039;&#039;Fearless&#039;&#039;, meaning he can&#039;t be overrun and has a chance of just trolling generic legionaries who are not immune to fear. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are two versions of him, representing him as the commander of the Dark Brotherhood in a Blackshields army, or can be taken by any Loyalist force if you upgrade to Knight-Errant, making him even deadlier in a challenge with &#039;&#039;Preferred Enemy (Traitors)&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Trivia:&#039;&#039;&#039; Both his name and his armour are allusions to [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|lions]], which is no surprise given his supposed heritage. The &#039;&#039;&#039;Nemean Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was slain as the first of the twelve labours of Heracles, while the pelt of the &#039;&#039;&#039;Cithaeron Lion&#039;&#039;&#039; was worn by Heracles and was said to be impervious, which accounts for the sheer number of benefits granted by his Kithaeron warplate.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Others===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Macer Varren&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[World Eaters]] Captain who was one of a group of loyalist refugees that fled to the Terran Solar system, a cockney-marine (despite being visualized as Scottish Gerard Butler) and an utter badass. Surprisingly level-headed for someone with the Butcher&#039;s Nails jammed into his brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sevarian (The Wolf)&#039;&#039;&#039; - Not a Space Wolf, though artwork portrays him to look similar to one, but a [[Luna Wolves|Luna Wolf]]. He was a member of the Crusader Host (basically Space Marine Ambassadors to Terra) but was imprisoned on Terra with all bar the Imperial Fists due to suspicion. He broke out of prison and was brought back into the fold by the Samurai (not kidding) Nasagena. He is a latent psyker whose powers were unlocked by Magnus&#039; psychic message that broke the Golden Throne, though Malcador explains it such that Sevarian uses them so instinctually that he does not know he has them, which makes him unique.&lt;br /&gt;
**Sevarian was also an early addition to the Knights-Errant, being recruited by Malcador directly about two years into the Heresy, but was recruited before Rubio since it was Sevarian&#039;s psychic abilities which that identified other potential candidates for recruitment, giving Garro a list of twenty names to find.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bror Tyrfinger&#039;&#039;&#039; - An actual Space Wolf. His name translates to &amp;quot;Brother Bullfinger&amp;quot; in danish, so that&#039;s at least something. Tyrfing is also a name of the sword made by dwarves in the legend of Tyrfing. It was said that due to this it could never rust, dull or miss; but it also carried a curse of having to kill a man each time it was drawn.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ares Voitek&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Hands]] Techmarine. Also knows how to whip up alcohol on the fly. Even Dorn gets in on it.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fel Zharost&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Night Lords]] Chief Librarian who, was exiled by [[Sevatar]] after the Edict of Nikaea mostly because no-one could be bothered to care about the Librarius except Zharost himself. He somehow fled to Terra and was eventually collected for induction into the Knights-Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Vardas Ison&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Librarian, [[Lexicanum|assumed]] Blood Angels.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Theodor Ruttveld&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Space Wolf, was assigned to watch over Konrad Curze and ensure that the Edict of Nikaea [[Fail|was obeyed]]. Heavily maimed by Curze and delivered to Terra [[Grimdark|as a message]]. It is uncertain if he is to become a Knight-Errant though he he kept alive on the Sigillite&#039;s Authority and it is made clear that he it to be kept as whole as possible and not interred in a Dreadnought.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Kaspian Hecht \ Barthusa Narek:&#039;&#039;&#039; A bit of a mystery;  Narek was a member of the [[Word Bearers]] who still believed in the divinity of the Emperor and wanted to kill [[Lorgar]] to sort out his Legion&#039;s problems; however he had no apparent interest in joining the &amp;quot;Loyalist&amp;quot; cause. He was captured on [[Macragge]], and even though [[Inquisition|he wasn&#039;t a traitor, he was interrogated daily and to be executed if he incriminated himself]]. However he somehow escaped and was implanted with the memories of a separate person: &amp;quot;Kaspian Hecht&amp;quot; who was apparently on his way towards Macragge to recruit someone for the Knights-Errant. How or why this was done is as yet unknown, but Narek eventually sorts his memories out though it&#039;s not yet known if he&#039;ll remain as one of the Knights Errant.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deceased Members===&lt;br /&gt;
As we know several members were inducted into the Knights Errant, but many did not survive, and considering that the number above is greater than eight, we know that several more will perish or find other duties.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Iacton Qruze&#039;&#039;&#039; - One of the oldest members of the Luna Wolves and one of the few Legionaries who had been recruited before Horus was found. Referred to as &amp;quot;The Half-Heard&amp;quot; mostly because no-one was paying attention to what the old coot was saying. Got the job of overseeing the prisons on Titan for people who know far too much to be let loose in the Imperium, though is killed by Horus on board the Vengeful Spirit when an attempt at placing teleport beacons for the Space Wolves to deep strike aboard was discovered. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Tubal Cayne&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Iron Warriors]] member of the Crusader Host like Severian.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Rama Karayan&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Raven Guard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Altan Nohai&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[White Scars]] Apothecary&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Callion Zaven&#039;&#039;&#039; - [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] Champion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Grey Knight Grand Masters==&lt;br /&gt;
We know that there were eight Grand Masters who travelled with Malcador to Titan when it was cast into the warp, unfortunately we don&#039;t yet know who they all are yet, and is made more difficult to guess since Grey Knights ritually change their names to mirror their daemonic foes. In [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Emperor&#039;s Gift&#039;&#039;, all eight are long dead and entombed together in the Chapter&#039;s cemetery on Titan. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;1. Janus&#039;&#039;&#039; - Known to us as the first Supreme Grand Master, though his original name and legion remain unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
**Considering a bunch of circumstantial evidence One candidate to Janus&#039; identity &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; (stressed &amp;quot;could&amp;quot;) be the Twin-Primarch [[Omegon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
**Garro is a contender if only because of him being the leader of the Knights-Errant, however author James Swallow put a knock-back on this in White Dwarf December 2012 when he emphatically stated that Garro is &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;not a Grey Knight... and where his fate lies is much more complicated than that&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; Though it doesn&#039;t actually stop the conspiracy theorists from reading whatever they want into it.&lt;br /&gt;
***The stories &#039;&#039;&#039;Shield of Lies&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;amp; &#039;&#039;&#039;Vow of Faith&#039;&#039;&#039; both cement that Garro &#039;&#039;definitely isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; going to be a Grey Knight when the character tells himself and his companions that his ultimate fate does not lie on Titan with Malcador&#039;s warriors in grey.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;5. Epimetheus&#039;&#039;&#039; - A [[Dark Angels]] psyker of prodigious strength who survived into the 41st Millennium by being trapped in the Damnation Cache on Pandorax. Epimethius would eventually be captured by [[Abaddon]] and given to [[Fulgrim]] in a bid to gain the allegiance of the [[Emperor&#039;s Children]] for the 13th Black Crusade, Epimethius himself was intended to become the [[What|Avatar of Slaanesh]].&lt;br /&gt;
**His original name is unknown, but one consideration could have been [[Zahariel]] who may have joined the Knights-Errant instead of the intended membership of [[Cypher]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;8. Khyron&#039;&#039;&#039; - First Grand Master of the Eighth Brotherhood, and with a name close to &amp;quot;bat&amp;quot; in Greek, his tomb on Titan depicts a helmeted warrior leaning casually on a halberd. The tomb&#039;s epitaph closes with &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;If you wish to grow wise, learn why brothers betray brothers.’&#039;&#039;. As the halberd and casual attitude was the hallmark of the Eighth Legion&#039;s First Captain [[Sevatar]], and Jago Sevatarion was last seen in Imperial hands relearning his psychic gift at the end of ADB&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Longest Night&#039;&#039;, many Night Lords fanboys believe it is Sevatar. Having once betrayed the Emperor but then disillusioned with Chaos and Horus, could he have then betrayed his brothers in the the Eighth to return to the Imperial fold? Only ADB knows, and he hasn&#039;t gotten us that far yet. That said, the Night Lords were the 8th legion too.. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Abaddon]] claimed to know of the eight original founders and stated that one was an [[Ultramarine]] while another was his &amp;quot;erstwhile brother&amp;quot;. Thus it&#039;s increasingly likely that Rubio and Loken (or Severian) are two of the first Grand Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human Members==&lt;br /&gt;
While not necessarily Knights-Errant, we also know that four humans were recruited by Malcador to form the founding members of the Inquisition.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Amendera Kendel&#039;&#039;&#039; - &#039;&#039;Agentia Tercius&#039;&#039; to Malcador (after Garro himself) and a former [[Sisters of Silence|Sister of Silence]]. She is still a Pariah of course, but she gave up her vow to become one of the first members of Malcador&#039;s [[Inquisition|band of merry travellers]]. She is quite possibly the first &amp;quot;True&amp;quot; Inquisitor, by virtue of her background as a Witch-Hunter  and the later development of her character which shows her radically using the authority granted to her by the Sigillite to get shit done: Co-opting Space Marines from the survivors of the &#039;&#039;Eisenstein&#039;&#039; into her retinue, and later ordering a battle-barge to enact &#039;&#039;[[Exterminatus]]&#039;&#039; on a planet turned renegade, despite the fact that &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;no-one&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; other than a Primarch or the Emperor himself had ever ordered such an act before her.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Yasu Nagasena&#039;&#039;&#039; - the Last Samurai and expert tracker who was tasked with finding the Outcast Dead, then chasing down and killing Sevarian. He was only stopped from doing so by Malcador who wanted them both for his [[Inquisition|new project]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Khalid Hassan&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Stormtrooper who was into the Sigillite&#039;s employ to collect an artefact from Egypt, despite being told not to look into the box, he did and was brought before Malcador to explain himself. It turns out that the artefact was the &#039;&#039;Rosetta Stone&#039;&#039; and Malcador was part of an order that kept history and learning safe and intact. He also gets shown the doorway to the Emperor&#039;s Webway.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Katanoh Tallery&#039;&#039;&#039; - a scribe who discovered that someone was using galactic scale tax avoidance schemes to fund and build a legion sized force under the Imperium&#039;s nose and within their territory. She was aided by Garro in finding who was diverting Imperial equipment in such an underhanded manner. Turns out it was Malcador and he was pissed at Garro for uncovering the Grey Knight fortress on Titan before it was finished, but was convinced to keep Tallery in order to better manage the bookkeeping. It&#039;s unlikely she is going to end up being an Inquisitor though. (Although, looking for funny spending would be an excellent way to find heretics... In fact, Eisenhorn uncovers a coven of heretics due to unusual accounting).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I just want a normal life.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;My friend, you will have as many of those as you wish.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:--The beings who would one day be [[Ollanius Pius]] and the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A &#039;&#039;&#039;Perpetual&#039;&#039;&#039; is a person of [[40k|the grim darkness of the 41st millenium]] who drew the absolutely shortest straw possible: they are immortal. And nothing of this &amp;quot;age without youth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;immortality without indestructibility&amp;quot; bullshit: they do not age and can survive the most gruesome deaths imaginable up to and including taking an [[Exterminatus]] to the face because they can reassemble themselves from their constituent atoms. [[/co/|They&#039;re like Wolverine on steroids like that]]. Which, given [[Grimdark|the relentless sunshine of the Warhammer 40.000 universe is NOT a good thing: not even death will relieve your suffering.]] There are only a few things that can kill a Perpetual for good, but these powers and weapons are known to only a few individuals in the galaxy (and even then it&#039;s not known for certain how effective they are, or if they even work). Very little is known about the Perpetuals including their origin (but given the fact that Ollanius Persson was around as far back as the time of Greek myth, they&#039;ve undoubtedly been around for ages), number, purpose or even if those suspected to be them actually being Perpetuals (all that we know is that during the Horus Heresy, there were exactly 3 Perpetuals living in Ultramar; given that Ultramar consisted of 500 planets at the time, we have to assume that they&#039;re extraordinarily rare). Of only eight individuals is the status of Perpetual known or confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
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We do however know, that people could be turned Perpetual by being resurrected. Which, ironically, might imply that [[Kharn]] and [[Lucius]] at some point became Perpetual too, since they&#039;re both came back from dead. It&#039;ll explain how Kharn managed to survive for that long despite his suicidal psychotic charges into everything he sees, and how Lucius resurrected without possessing anyone&#039;s body after being cut to pieces by an emotionless [[Rubric Marine|Rubric Swordmaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Predating the [[Great Crusade]]==&lt;br /&gt;
===The Emperor===&lt;br /&gt;
With all of his mysteries it would explain a number of things about the [[Emperor]] if he was a Perpetual: his age, knowledge in an era where everyone else on [[Terra]] was too busy [[LARP]]ing a crossover of [[Terminator]] and [[Fist of the North Star]] to learn shit and his massive power (learned over time). On the other hand it would not explain why he didn&#039;t just regenerate after being bitchslapped by [[Horus]]. The best explanation for this (besides Horus being able to injure the Emperor permanently through being the virtual avatar of all four [[Chaos Gods]]) is that that the Golden Throne, while maintaining his life functions, is also keeping him from resurrecting himself- in theory, if it was shut down, the only real effect it would have is that the Emperor would &amp;quot;die&amp;quot; for a day or two at most before fully healing from his injuries. A shame that nobody seems to realize this, as it would end most of the Imperium&#039;s problems on the spot &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;and leave Terra defenseless to being raped, both literally and figuratively, by hordes upon hordes of daemons, even if for a couple days&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. ( Not really, if Emperor turns into a real God the moment he is dead I am pretty sure that he would use his new God-like powers to seal the broken portal. After all, how hard would be closing of a minor portal be for a being that has the potential to kill Chaos Gods? ). It would create some new ones, as quite a few people wouldn&#039;t be happy with the return of [[Imperial Truth]], especially the Ecclesiarchy. Of course, knowing the Emperor he&#039;d crush them like bugs if they tried to oppose him, or even if they didn&#039;t. There is no way he would agree with the current Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recent revelations from the Horus Heresy books also suggest that his godlike powers were actually stolen from the Chaos Gods themselves instead of being wholly his own. Needless to say, the Ruinous Powers still have a grudge. &#039;&#039;&#039;A note&#039;&#039;&#039;: this is what Chaos Gods told Horus, and we all know how trustworthy they are. The most plausible explanation is that Emperor either tried to destroy them but failed or he infiltrated their compound to learn the secrets of the warp so he could divide fragments of his souls and make Primarchs from them. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Ollanius Persson===&lt;br /&gt;
A confirmed Perpetual, ol&#039; [[Ollanius Pius|Ollie Persson]] was one of the Argonauts of Greek myth and fought at Austerlitz (during Napoleon&#039;s conquests) and Verdun (infamous as one of the bloodiest battles in all of World War I). It also explains how he managed to survive boarding Horus&#039; flagship during the [[Siege of Terra]]. It is unknown if Horus actually managed to kill him: while [[Chaos|CHAOS]] [[Dakka|MINDBULLETS]] certainly sound like they could do the trick it still is quite possible that [[Troll|he reassembled himself and walked off, not giving a fuck.]] A man with true balls of steel.&lt;br /&gt;
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===John Grammaticus===&lt;br /&gt;
Former officer of the Emperor&#039;s armies during the [[Unification Wars]] on Terra and later agent of [[the Cabal]] and a lesser [[psyker]]; [[Perpetual#John Grammaticus|John Grammaticus]] [[meme|&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;WHO WAS GORDON GRAMMATICUS&#039; BROTHER WAS ONE DAY AT AN OFFICE TYPING ON A COMPUTOR&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;]] is an interesting case: after he died at Anatol [[Hive]] an [[Eldar]] [[Autarch]] called Slau Dha found his body and made him into a Perpetual, signaling that it is possible for humans to become Perpetuals. That, or Slau Dha was the equivalent of Ramirez and John was Connor MacLeod from Highlander. If this were the case this would make John and Slau Dha at least eight times more [[awesome]]. Grammaticus&#039; skills gained over the course of a millennium of life were instrumental for recruiting [[Alpharius]] to the cause of the Cabal, but he felt bad for this and stepped out of an airlock in the faint hope that it would kill him. (It did, but then he just came back to life again). After the [[Drop Site Massacre]] he spent some time digging up an old relic spear that was actually made from cast-off lightning of the Emperor&#039;s divinity, reputed to be able to kill anything, even other immortals. After the apparent failure of the &amp;quot;Alpharius Gambit&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;(two choices, two primarchs, go figure)&#039;&#039; the Cabal had intended to use it to stop Vulkan from reaching Terra and interfering with their future plans. Unfortunately such a powerful relic made Grammaticus into a big giant target, and he ended up getting captured, killed and recaptured by the [[Word Bearers]] and the broken legions and eventually finding his way to [[Macragge]].&lt;br /&gt;
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On the way he was contacted psychically by [[Eldrad|this dick]] who told him that he could strike back at the Cabal by stabbing Vulkan himself, since if [[derp|another immortal did it it would work differently]], and in this case it would somehow heal the primarch who was mentally broken after years of torture by [[Konrad Curze]]. Because of reasons. So after seeking Vulkan out on Macragge he stabbed him, investing his own immortality into the strike, and sucking it out of himself and making him mortal... also apparently killing Vulkan properly this time and therefore doing what the Cabal wanted in the first place. Also at some point during the invasion of Calth he found Oll Persson and tried to recruit him to the cause, though that didn&#039;t go too well as he was only half-hearted in his attempts anyway, plus Oll couldn&#039;t be bothered. It is now uncertain what [[Eldrad]] actually intended, either Vulkan will regenerate or become something entirely new or is just plain dead and Eldrad just [[Tzeentch|double-reverse-psychology]] to get what he wanted and Grammaticus was just a sucker.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Damon Prytanis===&lt;br /&gt;
Another agent of the Cabal, though unlike John Grammaticus, Damon was more of a soldier than a spy and got all the killy jobs. It is heavily implied that he was the one who killed Martin Luther King Jr. as well as other important figures throughout human history. No, really. The novels specifically mention he was responsible for the death of &amp;quot;the good man in Memphis&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Was apparently more comfortable with his position in the Cabal, even though it meant working against his own species, and would infer as much during his meetings with John Grammaticus, which made him more trustworthy in the eyes of the Cabal. During John&#039;s last mission Damon was sent to watch over him and make sure that he didn&#039;t falter or chicken out and try to derail their plans. Though he sort of failed to contain Grammaticus, he does kill Vulkan once, shredding him with a pair of shuriken pistols, but it&#039;s worth noting the primarch was already pretty shattered after having died a couple of time by that point.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was the individual who brought Cyrene Valantion into the Cabal&#039;s fold, having to die once or twice on board the Word Bearer&#039;s starship just to prove a point to her.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alivia Sureka===&lt;br /&gt;
Another female Perpetual and empathic psyker and the most recent to be introduced. Unlike most of the others though she has no apparent connection to the Cabal at all, and in fact is much more closely linked to the Emperor. She had traveled with Him and undisclosed &amp;quot;others&amp;quot; to the planet Moloch where the Emperor somehow travelled directly into the Warp and stole portions of the Chaos God&#039;s powers (or so the Chaos Gods claim).&lt;br /&gt;
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She was left behind on Molech to guard the gateway to stop anyone else from passing through and doing the same thing. Which apparently she did dutifully for a few thousand years... meaning that she is the only other Perpetual in the Emperor&#039;s peer group who is actually loyal to him at the time of the Crusade. When the Great Crusade arrived on the planet, the Emperor fortified the shit out of it, leaving detachments of [[Blood Angels]], [[Ultramarines]], [[Imperial Knight]]s, [[Titans]] and [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Army]], making her somewhat redundant so she settled down and married. At least until [[Horus]] arrived during the Heresy and laid waste to most of the Imperial forces in a bid to follow in his father&#039;s footsteps and take the same power for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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Humorously, Alivia has several affectations brought over from the third millenium; she has a tendency to use &amp;quot;modern-day&amp;quot; phrases such as &amp;quot;OK&amp;quot;, which do not actually exist in the 41st millenium. She also carries around a book of Hans Christian Andersen stories &#039;&#039;(probably one of the most priceless artifacts in the Imperium, if anyone knew what it was)&#039;&#039; which she reads to her adopted children.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Surfaced during and after the Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
===Vulkan===&lt;br /&gt;
Like his dad probably was, [[Vulkan]] of the [[Salamanders]] was a confirmed Perpetual. This was put to the ultimate test by none other than [[Konrad Curze|the goddamn Night Haunter himself]], who proceeded to perform the [[Daemonculaba|most depraved tortures and murders on the Lord of the Salamanders in an attempt to break his will]]. Whether he was [[Grimdark|shot with bolters at point-blank range, cut apart, decapitated, eviscerated, impaled, dismembered, evaporated, getting his throat torn out with a rusty fork, being quite literally mindfucked,or being tossed naked out of an airlock]], Vulkan would neither break nor die, [[Rage|pissing Curze right the fuck off]]. Eventually Curze locked him in a maze courtesy of [[Perturabo]] where he would hunt Vulkan himself. Curze&#039;s mistake was to place Dawnbringer at the center of the maze; when Vulkan got to his hammer, [[Just as planned|he activated a built-in teleporter that sent him right over to]] [[Macragge]], where he promptly burned up in the atmosphere like a human meteor, re-killing him in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here things get complicated: Vulkan regenerated on Macragge but lost his mind, so Guilliman kept him locked up until he could figure out what to do with him &#039;&#039;(even concealing his presence when the Lion arrived)&#039;&#039;. However, when [[Konrad Curze]] arrived on Macragge after stowing away on the Lion&#039;s flagship, Vulkan escaped in a moment of lucidity and tore his way across the planet (while naked) hunting Curze down and almost defeated him in a one-on-one duel. Shortly afterwards John Grammaticus found the broken primarch and stabbed him with the fulgurite, a stone spearhead charged with the psychic essence of the Emperor himself. He could not regenerate from this and neither [[Roboute Guilliman]], [[Sanguinius]], nor [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]] could remove the spear from their brother&#039;s chest. Given that he was sent back to [[Nocturne]] for burial, we are forced to assume that his casket included a long tube-shaped appendage at least several feet long sticking out at an unusual angle, making this (while tragic) at least eight times more amusing (assuming that he was ever stabbed in the first place).&lt;br /&gt;
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Guilliman was hopeful that Vulkan would resurrect himself in time and insisted that the coffin was a preservation capsule, which Guilliman dubbed &amp;quot;The Unbound Flame&amp;quot;. Some Salamanders who maintained a vigil of mourning thought they could hear a heartbeat. After an even more convoluted series of events surrounding the return of Vulkan&#039;s remains to Nocturne, the Primarch was found alive and well once more, which is even more confusing given that the fulgurite, which was supposed to kill him permanently, is still sticking out of his chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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What raises an interesting question in Vulkan&#039;s case is regarding the source of his powers. If it was given to him by the Emperor, it begs the question why the Emperor did not give all of his sons this ability (though it sort of answers itself with the thought of [[Angron]] becoming the [[Juggernaut]] (bitch!). If it was not the case, it would suggest that the Perpetual trait can be passed down one&#039;s bloodline, or at least transferred by cloning. Lots of Big E&#039;s abilities apparently can be passed to his sons, but we&#039;ll never know if he intended to pass some of them (magic powers and immortality specifically) to all of them or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Certainly Vulkan was probably the nicest of the primarch and as such would probably have been the best bet for an undying son. When Empy was looking over the petri dishes for which one to add the immortality to he had to choose between (in order): [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|a two faced jerk]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Fulgrim|a preening egotistical asshole]], [[Perturabo|a genocidal maniac with poor impulse control]], [[Jaghatai Khan|Genghis Khan]], [[Leman Russ|a racist dick with a furry fetish]], [[Rogal Dorn|a stubborn joyless masochist]], [[Konrad Curze|a psychopath serial killer who uses terror as a weapon]], [[Sanguinius|a guy with a terrible terrible secret]], [[Ferrus Manus|a nerd who&#039;d rather be talking to a toaster]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Angron|an explosively violent psychopath]], [[Roboute Guilliman|a massive dick]], [[Mortarion|an aspie psychopath]], [[Magnus the Red|a massively powerful arrogant psyker who can&#039;t take orders]], [[Horus|a spoilt egomaniac]], [[Lorgar|a petulant child]], [[Corvus Corax|an emo chick]], and [[Alpharius|two people obsessed with]] [[Omegon|secrets and lies]]. On the other hand, a lot of those traits were nurture rather then purely nature. Even so, if he did do it deliberately, he made a decent choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anval Thawn===&lt;br /&gt;
Justicar [[Anval Thawn]] of the [[Grey Knights]] is the biggest mystery of them all. All that is known is that he can walk away from the most gruesome [[Daemon]]-inflicted deaths one can imagine, much to the chagrin of his brothers and bewilderment of the Brotherhood&#039;s [[Librarian]]s. It also begs the question of why him being a Perpetual was not detected during his induction into the Grey Knights, [[Gene-seed|either during the tests or abnormal restoring from the involved chiurgery or the speed at which he accepted the nineteen organs]]. Perhaps the Perpetualness is undetectable by normal science or it manifests after a person&#039;s first death (much like in Highlander or the [[Planeswalker]] spark of [[Magic: The Gathering]]). Another option is that he might be Ollanius Pius or John Grammaticus, who were tired of dicking around for another 10.000 years and wanted a shot at becoming a [[Space Marine]]. And an even better question is how the fuck the [[Eldar]] were able to recognize him for what he was after only a short period of interaction with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cyrene Valantion===&lt;br /&gt;
Cyrene Valantion was a common woman from Monarchia, a planet conquered by Word Bearers during the Great Crusade, until the [[Ultramarines]] blew her home city to ashes to send a &amp;quot;Stop Worshiping Me!&amp;quot; message from the [[Emperor|Big E]] to [[Lorgar]]. Since the smurfs weren&#039;t complete assholes they evacuated all civilians (BLAMing those who didn&#039;t want to in process). Well, except Cyrene and a couple (hundreds) of others. She decided to stay out of the city borders and watch as orbital bombardment erased her home. Apparently watching an entire city being nuked was not her best decision, since she lost her eyes and almost died due to extreme light radiation burns. When the [[Word Bearers]] arrived they rescued her and figured that she was the only surviving witness of their punishment, because smurfs couldn&#039;t be bothered helping civilians whose city they just destroyed, which turned her into some kind of saint in their eyes, so they offered her a position of Confessor/Holy Relic, aka &amp;quot;The Blessed Lady&amp;quot; in their fleet. During a few decades of her service she became on a short hand with captain Argel Tal and guided him to his path of the first [[Possessed Marine]] and overall awesome guy who kill loyalists and doesn&#039;t afraid anything. Well until the Heresy, the Drop Site Massacre and she get herself killed by some Custodes assholes for just being on their way. Needless to say Argel Tal cried a manly tears of rage over her corpse and swore revenge at Custodes, which he delivered just a few hours later butchering them all on the ashes of Istvaan V. Fast forward one year [[Erebus]] being a dick he was resurrected her to oil his machinations with Argel Tal. Mind you she was dead for a year [[Grimdark|and her soul was torn apart and eaten by multiple daemons]] whom Erebus &amp;quot;persuaded&amp;quot; to give the pieces back. Being the badass she was, Cyrene recovered from the shock of being mutilated and tormented in hell surprisingly fast, until the battle for Nuceria, her ship got blown up and she got rescued by none other than Damon Prytanis who told her that being resurrected turned her into Perpetual. And then... cliffhanger.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I just want a normal life.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;My friend, you will have as many of those as you wish.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:--The beings who would one day be [[Ollanius Pius]] and the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A &#039;&#039;&#039;Perpetual&#039;&#039;&#039; is a person of [[40k|the grim darkness of the 41st millenium]] who drew the absolutely shortest straw possible: they are immortal. And nothing of this &amp;quot;age without youth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;immortality without indestructibility&amp;quot; bullshit: they do not age and can survive the most gruesome deaths imaginable up to and including taking an [[Exterminatus]] to the face because they can reassemble themselves from their constituent atoms. [[/co/|They&#039;re like Wolverine on steroids like that]]. Which, given [[Grimdark|the relentless sunshine of the Warhammer 40.000 universe is NOT a good thing: not even death will relieve your suffering.]] There are only a few things that can kill a Perpetual for good, but these powers and weapons are known to only a few individuals in the galaxy (and even then it&#039;s not known for certain how effective they are, or if they even work). Very little is known about the Perpetuals including their origin (but given the fact that Ollanius Persson was around as far back as the time of Greek myth, they&#039;ve undoubtedly been around for ages), number, purpose or even if those suspected to be them actually being Perpetuals (all that we know is that during the Horus Heresy, there were exactly 3 Perpetuals living in Ultramar; given that Ultramar consisted of 500 planets at the time, we have to assume that they&#039;re extraordinarily rare). Of only eight individuals is the status of Perpetual known or confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
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We do however know, that people could be turned Perpetual by being resurrected. Which, ironically, might imply that [[Kharn]] and [[Lucius]] at some point became Perpetual too, since they&#039;re both came back from dead. It&#039;ll explain how Kharn managed to survive for that long despite his suicidal psychotic charges into everything he sees, and how Lucius resurrected without possessing anyone&#039;s body after being cut to pieces by an emotionless [[Rubric Marine|Rubric Swordmaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Predating the [[Great Crusade]]==&lt;br /&gt;
===The Emperor===&lt;br /&gt;
With all of his mysteries it would explain a number of things about the [[Emperor]] if he was a Perpetual: his age, knowledge in an era where everyone else on [[Terra]] was too busy [[LARP]]ing a crossover of [[Terminator]] and [[Fist of the North Star]] to learn shit and his massive power (learned over time). On the other hand it would not explain why he didn&#039;t just regenerate after being bitchslapped by [[Horus]]. The best explanation for this (besides Horus being able to injure the Emperor permanently through being the virtual avatar of all four [[Chaos Gods]]) is that that the Golden Throne, while maintaining his life functions, is also keeping him from resurrecting himself- in theory, if it was shut down, the only real effect it would have is that the Emperor would &amp;quot;die&amp;quot; for a day or two at most before fully healing from his injuries. A shame that nobody seems to realize this, as it would end most of the Imperium&#039;s problems on the spot &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;and leave Terra defenseless to being raped, both literally and figuratively, by hordes upon hordes of daemons, even if for a couple days&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. ( Not really, if Emperor turns into a real God the moment he is dead I am pretty sure that he would use his new God-like powers to seal the broken portal. After all, how hard would be closing of a minor portal be for a being that has the potential to kill Chaos Gods? ). It would create some new ones, as quite a few people wouldn&#039;t be happy with the return of [[Imperial Truth]], especially the Ecclesiarchy. Of course, knowing the Emperor he&#039;d crush them like bugs if they tried to oppose him, or even if they didn&#039;t. There is no way he would agree with the current Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recent revelations from the Horus Heresy books also suggest that his godlike powers were actually stolen from the Chaos Gods themselves instead of being wholly his own. Needless to say, the Ruinous Powers still have a grudge. &#039;&#039;&#039;A note&#039;&#039;&#039;: this is what Chaos Gods told Horus, and we all know how trustworthy they are. The most plausible explanation is that Emperor either tried to destroy them but failed or he infiltrated their compound to learn the secrets of the warp so he could divide fragments of his souls and make Primarchs from them. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Ollanius Persson===&lt;br /&gt;
A confirmed Perpetual, ol&#039; [[Ollanius Pius|Ollie Persson]] was one of the Argonauts of Greek myth and fought at Austerlitz (during Napoleon&#039;s conquests) and Verdun (infamous as one of the bloodiest battles in all of World War I). It also explains how he managed to survive boarding Horus&#039; flagship during the [[Siege of Terra]]. It is unknown if Horus actually managed to kill him: while [[Chaos|CHAOS]] [[Dakka|MINDBULLETS]] certainly sound like they could do the trick it still is quite possible that [[Troll|he reassembled himself and walked off, not giving a fuck.]] A man with true balls of steel.&lt;br /&gt;
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===John Grammaticus===&lt;br /&gt;
Former officer of the Emperor&#039;s armies during the [[Unification Wars]] on Terra and later agent of [[the Cabal]] and a lesser [[psyker]]; [[Perpetual#John Grammaticus|John Grammaticus]] [[meme|&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;WHO WAS GORDON GRAMMATICUS&#039; BROTHER WAS ONE DAY AT AN OFFICE TYPING ON A COMPUTOR&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;]] is an interesting case: after he died at Anatol [[Hive]] an [[Eldar]] [[Autarch]] called Slau Dha found his body and made him into a Perpetual, signaling that it is possible for humans to become Perpetuals. That, or Slau Dha was the equivalent of Ramirez and John was Connor MacLeod from Highlander. If this were the case this would make John and Slau Dha at least eight times more [[awesome]]. Grammaticus&#039; skills gained over the course of a millennium of life were instrumental for recruiting [[Alpharius]] to the cause of the Cabal, but he felt bad for this and stepped out of an airlock in the faint hope that it would kill him. (It did, but then he just came back to life again). After the [[Drop Site Massacre]] he spent some time digging up an old relic spear that was actually made from cast-off lightning of the Emperor&#039;s divinity, reputed to be able to kill anything, even other immortals. After the apparent failure of the &amp;quot;Alpharius Gambit&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;(two choices, two primarchs, go figure)&#039;&#039; the Cabal had intended to use it to stop Vulkan from reaching Terra and interfering with their future plans. Unfortunately such a powerful relic made Grammaticus into a big giant target, and he ended up getting captured, killed and recaptured by the [[Word Bearers]] and the broken legions and eventually finding his way to [[Macragge]].&lt;br /&gt;
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On the way he was contacted psychically by [[Eldrad|this dick]] who told him that he could strike back at the Cabal by stabbing Vulkan himself, since if [[derp|another immortal did it it would work differently]], and in this case it would somehow heal the primarch who was mentally broken after years of torture by [[Konrad Curze]]. Because of reasons. So after seeking Vulkan out on Macragge he stabbed him, investing his own immortality into the strike, and sucking it out of himself and making him mortal... also apparently killing Vulkan properly this time and therefore doing what the Cabal wanted in the first place. Also at some point during the invasion of Calth he found Oll Persson and tried to recruit him to the cause, though that didn&#039;t go too well as he was only half-hearted in his attempts anyway, plus Oll couldn&#039;t be bothered. It is now uncertain what [[Eldrad]] actually intended, either Vulkan will regenerate or become something entirely new or is just plain dead and Eldrad just [[Tzeentch|double-reverse-psychology]] to get what he wanted and Grammaticus was just a sucker.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Damon Prytanis===&lt;br /&gt;
Another agent of the Cabal, though unlike John Grammaticus, Damon was more of a soldier than a spy and got all the killy jobs. It is heavily implied that he was the one who killed Martin Luther King Jr. as well as other important figures throughout human history. No, really. The novels specifically mention he was responsible for the death of &amp;quot;the good man in Memphis&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Was apparently more comfortable with his position in the Cabal, even though it meant working against his own species, and would infer as much during his meetings with John Grammaticus, which made him more trustworthy in the eyes of the Cabal. During John&#039;s last mission Damon was sent to watch over him and make sure that he didn&#039;t falter or chicken out and try to derail their plans. Though he sort of failed to contain Grammaticus, he does kill Valten once, shredding him with a pair of shuriken pistols, but it&#039;s worth noting the primarch was already pretty shattered after having died a couple of time by that point.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was the individual who brought Cyrene Valantion into the Cabal&#039;s fold, having to die once or twice on board the Word Bearer&#039;s starship just to prove a point to her.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alivia Sureka===&lt;br /&gt;
Another female Perpetual and empathic psyker and the most recent to be introduced. Unlike most of the others though she has no apparent connection to the Cabal at all, and in fact is much more closely linked to the Emperor. She had traveled with Him and undisclosed &amp;quot;others&amp;quot; to the planet Moloch where the Emperor somehow travelled directly into the Warp and stole portions of the Chaos God&#039;s powers (or so the Chaos Gods claim).&lt;br /&gt;
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She was left behind on Molech to guard the gateway to stop anyone else from passing through and doing the same thing. Which apparently she did dutifully for a few thousand years... meaning that she is the only other Perpetual in the Emperor&#039;s peer group who is actually loyal to him at the time of the Crusade. When the Great Crusade arrived on the planet, the Emperor fortified the shit out of it, leaving detachments of [[Blood Angels]], [[Ultramarines]], [[Imperial Knight]]s, [[Titans]] and [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Army]], making her somewhat redundant so she settled down and married. At least until [[Horus]] arrived during the Heresy and laid waste to most of the Imperial forces in a bid to follow in his father&#039;s footsteps and take the same power for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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Humorously, Alivia has several affectations brought over from the third millenium; she has a tendency to use &amp;quot;modern-day&amp;quot; phrases such as &amp;quot;OK&amp;quot;, which do not actually exist in the 41st millenium. She also carries around a book of Hans Christian Andersen stories &#039;&#039;(probably one of the most priceless artifacts in the Imperium, if anyone knew what it was)&#039;&#039; which she reads to her adopted children.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Surfaced during and after the Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
===Vulkan===&lt;br /&gt;
Like his dad probably was, [[Vulkan]] of the [[Salamanders]] was a confirmed Perpetual. This was put to the ultimate test by none other than [[Konrad Curze|the goddamn Night Haunter himself]], who proceeded to perform the [[Daemonculaba|most depraved tortures and murders on the Lord of the Salamanders in an attempt to break his will]]. Whether he was [[Grimdark|shot with bolters at point-blank range, cut apart, decapitated, eviscerated, impaled, dismembered, evaporated, getting his throat torn out with a rusty fork, being quite literally mindfucked,or being tossed naked out of an airlock]], Vulkan would neither break nor die, [[Rage|pissing Curze right the fuck off]]. Eventually Curze locked him in a maze courtesy of [[Perturabo]] where he would hunt Vulkan himself. Curze&#039;s mistake was to place Dawnbringer at the center of the maze; when Vulkan got to his hammer, [[Just as planned|he activated a built-in teleporter that sent him right over to]] [[Macragge]], where he promptly burned up in the atmosphere like a human meteor, re-killing him in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here things get complicated: Vulkan regenerated on Macragge but lost his mind, so Guilliman kept him locked up until he could figure out what to do with him &#039;&#039;(even concealing his presence when the Lion arrived)&#039;&#039;. However, when [[Konrad Curze]] arrived on Macragge after stowing away on the Lion&#039;s flagship, Vulkan escaped in a moment of lucidity and tore his way across the planet (while naked) hunting Curze down and almost defeated him in a one-on-one duel. Shortly afterwards John Grammaticus found the broken primarch and stabbed him with the fulgurite, a stone spearhead charged with the psychic essence of the Emperor himself. He could not regenerate from this and neither [[Roboute Guilliman]], [[Sanguinius]], nor [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]] could remove the spear from their brother&#039;s chest. Given that he was sent back to [[Nocturne]] for burial, we are forced to assume that his casket included a long tube-shaped appendage at least several feet long sticking out at an unusual angle, making this (while tragic) at least eight times more amusing (assuming that he was ever stabbed in the first place).&lt;br /&gt;
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Guilliman was hopeful that Vulkan would resurrect himself in time and insisted that the coffin was a preservation capsule, which Guilliman dubbed &amp;quot;The Unbound Flame&amp;quot;. Some Salamanders who maintained a vigil of mourning thought they could hear a heartbeat. After an even more convoluted series of events surrounding the return of Vulkan&#039;s remains to Nocturne, the Primarch was found alive and well once more, which is even more confusing given that the fulgurite, which was supposed to kill him permanently, is still sticking out of his chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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What raises an interesting question in Vulkan&#039;s case is regarding the source of his powers. If it was given to him by the Emperor, it begs the question why the Emperor did not give all of his sons this ability (though it sort of answers itself with the thought of [[Angron]] becoming the [[Juggernaut]] (bitch!). If it was not the case, it would suggest that the Perpetual trait can be passed down one&#039;s bloodline, or at least transferred by cloning. Lots of Big E&#039;s abilities apparently can be passed to his sons, but we&#039;ll never know if he intended to pass some of them (magic powers and immortality specifically) to all of them or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Certainly Vulkan was probably the nicest of the primarch and as such would probably have been the best bet for an undying son. When Empy was looking over the petri dishes for which one to add the immortality to he had to choose between (in order): [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|a two faced jerk]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Fulgrim|a preening egotistical asshole]], [[Perturabo|a genocidal maniac with poor impulse control]], [[Jaghatai Khan|Genghis Khan]], [[Leman Russ|a racist dick with a furry fetish]], [[Rogal Dorn|a stubborn joyless masochist]], [[Konrad Curze|a psychopath serial killer who uses terror as a weapon]], [[Sanguinius|a guy with a terrible terrible secret]], [[Ferrus Manus|a nerd who&#039;d rather be talking to a toaster]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Angron|an explosively violent psychopath]], [[Roboute Guilliman|a massive dick]], [[Mortarion|an aspie psychopath]], [[Magnus the Red|a massively powerful arrogant psyker who can&#039;t take orders]], [[Horus|a spoilt egomaniac]], [[Lorgar|a petulant child]], [[Corvus Corax|an emo chick]], and [[Alpharius|two people obsessed with]] [[Omegon|secrets and lies]]. On the other hand, a lot of those traits were nurture rather then purely nature. Even so, if he did do it deliberately, he made a decent choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anval Thawn===&lt;br /&gt;
Justicar [[Anval Thawn]] of the [[Grey Knights]] is the biggest mystery of them all. All that is known is that he can walk away from the most gruesome [[Daemon]]-inflicted deaths one can imagine, much to the chagrin of his brothers and bewilderment of the Brotherhood&#039;s [[Librarian]]s. It also begs the question of why him being a Perpetual was not detected during his induction into the Grey Knights, [[Gene-seed|either during the tests or abnormal restoring from the involved chiurgery or the speed at which he accepted the nineteen organs]]. Perhaps the Perpetualness is undetectable by normal science or it manifests after a person&#039;s first death (much like in Highlander or the [[Planeswalker]] spark of [[Magic: The Gathering]]). Another option is that he might be Ollanius Pius or John Grammaticus, who were tired of dicking around for another 10.000 years and wanted a shot at becoming a [[Space Marine]]. And an even better question is how the fuck the [[Eldar]] were able to recognize him for what he was after only a short period of interaction with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cyrene Valantion===&lt;br /&gt;
Cyrene Valantion was a common woman from Monarchia, a planet conquered by Word Bearers during the Great Crusade, until the [[Ultramarines]] blew her home city to ashes to send a &amp;quot;Stop Worshiping Me!&amp;quot; message from the [[Emperor|Big E]] to [[Lorgar]]. Since the smurfs weren&#039;t complete assholes they evacuated all civilians (BLAMing those who didn&#039;t want to in process). Well, except Cyrene and a couple (hundreds) of others. She decided to stay out of the city borders and watch as orbital bombardment erased her home. Apparently watching an entire city being nuked was not her best decision, since she lost her eyes and almost died due to extreme light radiation burns. When the [[Word Bearers]] arrived they rescued her and figured that she was the only surviving witness of their punishment, because smurfs couldn&#039;t be bothered helping civilians whose city they just destroyed, which turned her into some kind of saint in their eyes, so they offered her a position of Confessor/Holy Relic, aka &amp;quot;The Blessed Lady&amp;quot; in their fleet. During a few decades of her service she became on a short hand with captain Argel Tal and guided him to his path of the first [[Possessed Marine]] and overall awesome guy who kill loyalists and doesn&#039;t afraid anything. Well until the Heresy, the Drop Site Massacre and she get herself killed by some Custodes assholes for just being on their way. Needless to say Argel Tal cried a manly tears of rage over her corpse and swore revenge at Custodes, which he delivered just a few hours later butchering them all on the ashes of Istvaan V. Fast forward one year [[Erebus]] being a dick he was resurrected her to oil his machinations with Argel Tal. Mind you she was dead for a year [[Grimdark|and her soul was torn apart and eaten by multiple daemons]] whom Erebus &amp;quot;persuaded&amp;quot; to give the pieces back. Being the badass she was, Cyrene recovered from the shock of being mutilated and tormented in hell surprisingly fast, until the battle for Nuceria, her ship got blown up and she got rescued by none other than Damon Prytanis who told her that being resurrected turned her into Perpetual. And then... cliffhanger.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Perpetual</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I just want a normal life.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;My friend, you will have as many of those as you wish.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:--The beings who would one day be [[Ollanius Pius]] and the [[God-Emperor of Mankind]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A &#039;&#039;&#039;Perpetual&#039;&#039;&#039; is a person of [[40k|the grim darkness of the 41st millenium]] who drew the absolutely shortest straw possible: they are immortal. And nothing of this &amp;quot;age without youth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;immortality without indestructibility&amp;quot; bullshit: they do not age and can survive the most gruesome deaths imaginable up to and including taking an [[Exterminatus]] to the face because they can reassemble themselves from their constituent atoms. [[/co/|They&#039;re like Wolverine on steroids like that]]. Which, given [[Grimdark|the relentless sunshine of the Warhammer 40.000 universe is NOT a good thing: not even death will relieve your suffering.]] There are only a few things that can kill a Perpetual for good, but these powers and weapons are known to only a few individuals in the galaxy (and even then it&#039;s not known for certain how effective they are, or if they even work). Very little is known about the Perpetuals including their origin (but given the fact that Ollanius Persson was around as far back as the time of Greek myth, they&#039;ve undoubtedly been around for ages), number, purpose or even if those suspected to be them actually being Perpetuals (all that we know is that during the Horus Heresy, there were exactly 3 Perpetuals living in Ultramar; given that Ultramar consisted of 500 planets at the time, we have to assume that they&#039;re extraordinarily rare). Of only eight individuals is the status of Perpetual known or confirmed.&lt;br /&gt;
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We do however know, that people could be turned Perpetual by being resurrected. Which, ironically, might imply that [[Kharn]] and [[Lucius]] at some point became Perpetual too, since they&#039;re both came back from dead. It&#039;ll explain how Kharn managed to survive for that long despite his suicidal psychotic charges into everything he sees, and how Lucius resurrected without possessing anyone&#039;s body after being cut to pieces by an emotionless [[Rubric Marine|Rubric Swordmaster]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Predating the [[Great Crusade]]==&lt;br /&gt;
===The Emperor===&lt;br /&gt;
With all of his mysteries it would explain a number of things about the [[Emperor]] if he was a Perpetual: his age, knowledge in an era where everyone else on [[Terra]] was too busy [[LARP]]ing a crossover of [[Terminator]] and [[Fist of the North Star]] to learn shit and his massive power (learned over time). On the other hand it would not explain why he didn&#039;t just regenerate after being bitchslapped by [[Horus]]. The best explanation for this (besides Horus being able to injure the Emperor permanently through being the virtual avatar of all four [[Chaos Gods]]) is that that the Golden Throne, while maintaining his life functions, is also keeping him from resurrecting himself- in theory, if it was shut down, the only real effect it would have is that the Emperor would &amp;quot;die&amp;quot; for a day or two at most before fully healing from his injuries. A shame that nobody seems to realize this, as it would end most of the Imperium&#039;s problems on the spot &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;and leave Terra defenseless to being raped, both literally and figuratively, by hordes upon hordes of daemons, even if for a couple days&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. ( Not really, if Emperor turns into a real God the moment he is dead I am pretty sure that he would use his new God-like powers to seal the broken portal. After all, how hard would be closing of a minor portal be for a being that has the potential to kill Chaos Gods? ). It would create some new ones, as quite a few people wouldn&#039;t be happy with the return of [[Imperial Truth]], especially the Ecclesiarchy. Of course, knowing the Emperor he&#039;d crush them like bugs if they tried to oppose him, or even if they didn&#039;t. There is no way he would agree with the current Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recent revelations from the Horus Heresy books also suggest that his godlike powers were actually stolen from the Chaos Gods themselves instead of being wholly his own. Needless to say, the Ruinous Powers still have a grudge. &#039;&#039;&#039;A note&#039;&#039;&#039;: this is what Chaos Gods told Horus, and we all know how trustworthy they are. The most plausible explanation is that Emperor either tried to destroy them but failed or he infiltrated their compound to learn the secrets of the warp so he could divide fragments of his souls and make Primarchs from them. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Ollanius Persson===&lt;br /&gt;
A confirmed Perpetual, ol&#039; [[Ollanius Pius|Ollie Persson]] was one of the Argonauts of Greek myth and fought at Austerlitz (during Napoleon&#039;s conquests) and Verdun (infamous as one of the bloodiest battles in all of World War I). It also explains how he managed to survive boarding Horus&#039; flagship during the [[Siege of Terra]]. It is unknown if Horus actually managed to kill him: while [[Chaos|CHAOS]] [[Dakka|MINDBULLETS]] certainly sound like they could do the trick it still is quite possible that [[Troll|he reassembled himself and walked off, not giving a fuck.]] A man with true balls of steel.&lt;br /&gt;
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===John Grammaticus===&lt;br /&gt;
Former officer of the Emperor&#039;s armies during the [[Unification Wars]] on Terra and later agent of [[the Cabal]] and a lesser [[psyker]]; [[Perpetual#John Grammaticus|John Grammaticus]] [[meme|&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;WHO WAS GORDON GRAMMATICUS&#039; BROTHER WAS ONE DAY AT AN OFFICE TYPING ON A COMPUTOR&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;]] is an interesting case: after he died at Anatol [[Hive]] an [[Eldar]] [[Autarch]] called Slau Dha found his body and made him into a Perpetual, signaling that it is possible for humans to become Perpetuals. That, or Slau Dha was the equivalent of Ramirez and John was Connor MacLeod from Highlander. If this were the case this would make John and Slau Dha at least eight times more [[awesome]]. Grammaticus&#039; skills gained over the course of a millennium of life were instrumental for recruiting [[Alpharius]] to the cause of the Cabal, but he felt bad for this and stepped out of an airlock in the faint hope that it would kill him. (It did, but then he just came back to life again). After the [[Drop Site Massacre]] he spent some time digging up an old relic spear that was actually made from cast-off lightning of the Emperor&#039;s divinity, reputed to be able to kill anything, even other immortals. After the apparent failure of the &amp;quot;Alpharius Gambit&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;(two choices, two primarchs, go figure)&#039;&#039; the Cabal had intended to use it to stop Vulkan from reaching Terra and interfering with their future plans. Unfortunately such a powerful relic made Grammaticus into a big giant target, and he ended up getting captured, killed and recaptured by the [[Word Bearers]] and the broken legions and eventually finding his way to [[Macragge]].&lt;br /&gt;
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On the way he was contacted psychically by [[Eldrad|this dick]] who told him that he could strike back at the Cabal by stabbing Vulkan himself, since if [[derp|another immortal did it it would work differently]], and in this case it would somehow heal the primarch who was mentally broken after years of torture by [[Konrad Curze]]. Because of reasons. So after seeking Vulkan out on Macragge he stabbed him, investing his own immortality into the strike, and sucking it out of himself and making him mortal... also apparently killing Vulkan properly this time and therefore doing what the Cabal wanted in the first place. Also at some point during the invasion of Calth he found Oll Persson and tried to recruit him to the cause, though that didn&#039;t go too well as he was only half-hearted in his attempts anyway, plus Oll couldn&#039;t be bothered. It is now uncertain what [[Eldrad]] actually intended, either Vulkan will regenerate or become something entirely new or is just plain dead and Eldrad just [[Tzeentch|double-reverse-psychology]] to get what he wanted and Grammaticus was just a sucker.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Damon Prytanis===&lt;br /&gt;
Another agent of the Cabal, though unlike John Grammaticus, Damon was more of a soldier than a spy and got all the killy jobs. It is heavily implied that he was the one who killed Martin Luther King Jr. as well as other important figures throughout human history. No, really. The novels specifically mention he was responsible for the death of &amp;quot;the good man in Memphis&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Was apparently more comfortable with his position in the Cabal, even though it meant working against his own species, and would infer as much during his meetings with John Grammaticus, which made him more trustworthy in the eyes of the Cabal. During John&#039;s last mission Damon was sent to watch over him and make sure that he didn&#039;t falter or chicken out and try to derail their plans. Though he sort of failed to contain Grammaticus, he does kill Valten once, shredding the primarch with a pair of shuriken pistols, but it&#039;s worth noting Valten was already pretty shattered after having died a couple of time by that point.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was the individual who brought Cyrene Valantion into the Cabal&#039;s fold, having to die once or twice on board the Word Bearer&#039;s starship just to prove a point to her.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alivia Sureka===&lt;br /&gt;
Another female Perpetual and empathic psyker and the most recent to be introduced. Unlike most of the others though she has no apparent connection to the Cabal at all, and in fact is much more closely linked to the Emperor. She had traveled with Him and undisclosed &amp;quot;others&amp;quot; to the planet Moloch where the Emperor somehow travelled directly into the Warp and stole portions of the Chaos God&#039;s powers (or so the Chaos Gods claim).&lt;br /&gt;
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She was left behind on Molech to guard the gateway to stop anyone else from passing through and doing the same thing. Which apparently she did dutifully for a few thousand years... meaning that she is the only other Perpetual in the Emperor&#039;s peer group who is actually loyal to him at the time of the Crusade. When the Great Crusade arrived on the planet, the Emperor fortified the shit out of it, leaving detachments of [[Blood Angels]], [[Ultramarines]], [[Imperial Knight]]s, [[Titans]] and [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Army]], making her somewhat redundant so she settled down and married. At least until [[Horus]] arrived during the Heresy and laid waste to most of the Imperial forces in a bid to follow in his father&#039;s footsteps and take the same power for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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Humorously, Alivia has several affectations brought over from the third millenium; she has a tendency to use &amp;quot;modern-day&amp;quot; phrases such as &amp;quot;OK&amp;quot;, which do not actually exist in the 41st millenium. She also carries around a book of Hans Christian Andersen stories &#039;&#039;(probably one of the most priceless artifacts in the Imperium, if anyone knew what it was)&#039;&#039; which she reads to her adopted children.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Surfaced during and after the Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
===Vulkan===&lt;br /&gt;
Like his dad probably was, [[Vulkan]] of the [[Salamanders]] was a confirmed Perpetual. This was put to the ultimate test by none other than [[Konrad Curze|the goddamn Night Haunter himself]], who proceeded to perform the [[Daemonculaba|most depraved tortures and murders on the Lord of the Salamanders in an attempt to break his will]]. Whether he was [[Grimdark|shot with bolters at point-blank range, cut apart, decapitated, eviscerated, impaled, dismembered, evaporated, getting his throat torn out with a rusty fork, being quite literally mindfucked,or being tossed naked out of an airlock]], Vulkan would neither break nor die, [[Rage|pissing Curze right the fuck off]]. Eventually Curze locked him in a maze courtesy of [[Perturabo]] where he would hunt Vulkan himself. Curze&#039;s mistake was to place Dawnbringer at the center of the maze; when Vulkan got to his hammer, [[Just as planned|he activated a built-in teleporter that sent him right over to]] [[Macragge]], where he promptly burned up in the atmosphere like a human meteor, re-killing him in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here things get complicated: Vulkan regenerated on Macragge but lost his mind, so Guilliman kept him locked up until he could figure out what to do with him &#039;&#039;(even concealing his presence when the Lion arrived)&#039;&#039;. However, when [[Konrad Curze]] arrived on Macragge after stowing away on the Lion&#039;s flagship, Vulkan escaped in a moment of lucidity and tore his way across the planet (while naked) hunting Curze down and almost defeated him in a one-on-one duel. Shortly afterwards John Grammaticus found the broken primarch and stabbed him with the fulgurite, a stone spearhead charged with the psychic essence of the Emperor himself. He could not regenerate from this and neither [[Roboute Guilliman]], [[Sanguinius]], nor [[Lion El&#039;Jonson]] could remove the spear from their brother&#039;s chest. Given that he was sent back to [[Nocturne]] for burial, we are forced to assume that his casket included a long tube-shaped appendage at least several feet long sticking out at an unusual angle, making this (while tragic) at least eight times more amusing (assuming that he was ever stabbed in the first place).&lt;br /&gt;
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Guilliman was hopeful that Vulkan would resurrect himself in time and insisted that the coffin was a preservation capsule, which Guilliman dubbed &amp;quot;The Unbound Flame&amp;quot;. Some Salamanders who maintained a vigil of mourning thought they could hear a heartbeat. After an even more convoluted series of events surrounding the return of Vulkan&#039;s remains to Nocturne, the Primarch was found alive and well once more, which is even more confusing given that the fulgurite, which was supposed to kill him permanently, is still sticking out of his chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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What raises an interesting question in Vulkan&#039;s case is regarding the source of his powers. If it was given to him by the Emperor, it begs the question why the Emperor did not give all of his sons this ability (though it sort of answers itself with the thought of [[Angron]] becoming the [[Juggernaut]] (bitch!). If it was not the case, it would suggest that the Perpetual trait can be passed down one&#039;s bloodline, or at least transferred by cloning. Lots of Big E&#039;s abilities apparently can be passed to his sons, but we&#039;ll never know if he intended to pass some of them (magic powers and immortality specifically) to all of them or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Certainly Vulkan was probably the nicest of the primarch and as such would probably have been the best bet for an undying son. When Empy was looking over the petri dishes for which one to add the immortality to he had to choose between (in order): [[Lion El&#039;Jonson|a two faced jerk]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Fulgrim|a preening egotistical asshole]], [[Perturabo|a genocidal maniac with poor impulse control]], [[Jaghatai Khan|Genghis Khan]], [[Leman Russ|a racist dick with a furry fetish]], [[Rogal Dorn|a stubborn joyless masochist]], [[Konrad Curze|a psychopath serial killer who uses terror as a weapon]], [[Sanguinius|a guy with a terrible terrible secret]], [[Ferrus Manus|a nerd who&#039;d rather be talking to a toaster]], [[Primarch#Two_Missing_Primarchs|a [RECORDS LOST]]], [[Angron|an explosively violent psychopath]], [[Roboute Guilliman|a massive dick]], [[Mortarion|an aspie psychopath]], [[Magnus the Red|a massively powerful arrogant psyker who can&#039;t take orders]], [[Horus|a spoilt egomaniac]], [[Lorgar|a petulant child]], [[Corvus Corax|an emo chick]], and [[Alpharius|two people obsessed with]] [[Omegon|secrets and lies]]. On the other hand, a lot of those traits were nurture rather then purely nature. Even so, if he did do it deliberately, he made a decent choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anval Thawn===&lt;br /&gt;
Justicar [[Anval Thawn]] of the [[Grey Knights]] is the biggest mystery of them all. All that is known is that he can walk away from the most gruesome [[Daemon]]-inflicted deaths one can imagine, much to the chagrin of his brothers and bewilderment of the Brotherhood&#039;s [[Librarian]]s. It also begs the question of why him being a Perpetual was not detected during his induction into the Grey Knights, [[Gene-seed|either during the tests or abnormal restoring from the involved chiurgery or the speed at which he accepted the nineteen organs]]. Perhaps the Perpetualness is undetectable by normal science or it manifests after a person&#039;s first death (much like in Highlander or the [[Planeswalker]] spark of [[Magic: The Gathering]]). Another option is that he might be Ollanius Pius or John Grammaticus, who were tired of dicking around for another 10.000 years and wanted a shot at becoming a [[Space Marine]]. And an even better question is how the fuck the [[Eldar]] were able to recognize him for what he was after only a short period of interaction with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cyrene Valantion===&lt;br /&gt;
Cyrene Valantion was a common woman from Monarchia, a planet conquered by Word Bearers during the Great Crusade, until the [[Ultramarines]] blew her home city to ashes to send a &amp;quot;Stop Worshiping Me!&amp;quot; message from the [[Emperor|Big E]] to [[Lorgar]]. Since the smurfs weren&#039;t complete assholes they evacuated all civilians (BLAMing those who didn&#039;t want to in process). Well, except Cyrene and a couple (hundreds) of others. She decided to stay out of the city borders and watch as orbital bombardment erased her home. Apparently watching an entire city being nuked was not her best decision, since she lost her eyes and almost died due to extreme light radiation burns. When the [[Word Bearers]] arrived they rescued her and figured that she was the only surviving witness of their punishment, because smurfs couldn&#039;t be bothered helping civilians whose city they just destroyed, which turned her into some kind of saint in their eyes, so they offered her a position of Confessor/Holy Relic, aka &amp;quot;The Blessed Lady&amp;quot; in their fleet. During a few decades of her service she became on a short hand with captain Argel Tal and guided him to his path of the first [[Possessed Marine]] and overall awesome guy who kill loyalists and doesn&#039;t afraid anything. Well until the Heresy, the Drop Site Massacre and she get herself killed by some Custodes assholes for just being on their way. Needless to say Argel Tal cried a manly tears of rage over her corpse and swore revenge at Custodes, which he delivered just a few hours later butchering them all on the ashes of Istvaan V. Fast forward one year [[Erebus]] being a dick he was resurrected her to oil his machinations with Argel Tal. Mind you she was dead for a year [[Grimdark|and her soul was torn apart and eaten by multiple daemons]] whom Erebus &amp;quot;persuaded&amp;quot; to give the pieces back. Being the badass she was, Cyrene recovered from the shock of being mutilated and tormented in hell surprisingly fast, until the battle for Nuceria, her ship got blown up and she got rescued by none other than Damon Prytanis who told her that being resurrected turned her into Perpetual. And then... cliffhanger.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:World Eaters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Angron and his World Eaters, pre-heresy and pre-[[daemon prince]] in a rare state of tranquility standing on top of [[grimdark|a pile made of snow and dead bodies]].  It&#039;s hard to calm down when there&#039;s nails in your brain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
— Mark Twain&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A lot of people have tragic childhoods. But you know what? Get over it.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
-Phil McGraw or kinda what [[Roboute Guilliman|Rowboat Girlyman]] said in fewer words to Angron&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;YOU SMUG SON OF A BITCH!&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Randy Orton or kinda how Angron&#039;s repsonds to Rowboat Girlyman in fewer words&lt;br /&gt;
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His name is Angron (A.K.A. &#039;&#039;&#039;The Red Angel&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;Shithead&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re sergeant Gharte). Cmon, do we really have to spell it out? While his name may be a play on the words &amp;quot;Anger&amp;quot;, it is possible that his name is based on the Greek word &amp;quot;Agrion&amp;quot; which means &amp;quot;Wild&amp;quot; (Which pretty much suits him considering he&#039;s the angriest, wildest, mother-fucking mother fucker in a long and extensive history of bipedal mother fuckers). Also, if you spell his name backwards it&#039;s Norgna, which has to count for something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the angriest son of a bitch in the galaxy, he is LITERALLY THE EMBODIMENT OF BADASSERY. And anger, because have we mentioned how angry he always is? And speaking of angry, one time he was so angry that the part of him that made him angry exploded from his head, thus making him permanently angry. Not to mention that time he was kidnapped by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emprah]], which didn&#039;t help his temper much, and gave him an excuse to fucking RAGE at his dad by joining up with [[Khorne]], Warhammer&#039;s God of Battle, War and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]! Angron just so happens to be [[Primarch]] of the [[World eaters|World Eaters]] and [[Kharn|that swell guy]]. He is Khorne&#039;s second most powerful champion, where he falls short to [[Doombreed]], Khorne&#039;s first ever [[Daemon Prince]]/Champion. But we can forgive him, because nobody can beat [[Genghis motherfucking Khan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His revered exploits include slaughtering the entire population of a planet within a night, killing an entire contingent of Eldar warriors led by a Farseer when he was only a child, and leading a gladiator rebellion against their slavers and slaughtering every army sent against them until a huge one made up of seven armies came and fucked their shit up against a dirty rock. However, one must understand that they had already beaten 25 other armies non stop and didn&#039;t even have tea afterwards (the absolute madman!). The Emperor saved him from dying here, which was a tremendous blow to his martial pride and soon after he [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]ed furiously against the Emperor, believing him a coward devoid of honor, and joined up with KHORNE, the aforementioned God of War, Murder, Killing, Bloodshed, Weeping Buttholes, Battle and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life &amp;amp; Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s got good reason to be ever-so-slightly miffed: his pre-daemonhood life was one big bowl of shit after another. First he crash-landed on his new home world (because Khorne didn&#039;t give him a soft landing) and had a good chunk of his head torn off in the crash, after which he got jumped by the aforementioned Eldar, then (tired from the killing and the massive brain trauma; keep in mind he&#039;s like 6 hours old) got captured and sold into slavery by people with near-Imperial level technology who JAM ARCHAEOTECH SHIT straight into his brain-meat... the kind that makes it so the only time he can feel anything resembling happiness is *while murdering*, BEFORE PROCEEDING to make him fight as a gladiator. &lt;br /&gt;
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So of course Angron eventually sets up a rebellion and fights to free his &amp;quot;brother and sister&amp;quot; gladiators. But when the Emperor comes along, does he help Angron with his totally justified rebellion?  Nope, he takes Angron away from the only people who weren&#039;t shitty to him (leaving them all to die) and never looks back. To be fair, there&#039;s a good possibility that those gladiators were Khorne-corruption fodder, and thus the Emperor figured that saving them would just lead to more enemies in the future, and it&#039;s perfectly in-character for him to be a huge dick and not mention it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, according to the novel &#039;&#039;Betrayer&#039;&#039; it turns out that the Emperor had already made a deal with the government of Angron&#039;s planet. Therefore it was easier for the Emperor to capture Angron and win over the planet without further bloodshed rather than helping his son win a war against a population that had already submitted to compliance. And the only reason Big E didn&#039;t tell Angron any of this was because he couldn&#039;t give less of a shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s implied in the novels that E-Money took one look at Angron&#039;s fucked-up (and dying- the Butcher&#039;s Nails were quite literally destroying his brain so fast that the Mechanicus estimated that he wouldn&#039;t live long enough to see the end of the Great Crusade) skull and decided that he was a waste of time and effort, and went off to go suck Horus&#039; dick some more. While some might argue that he could have at least tried to removed the Butcher&#039;s Nails, keep in mind that all attempts at removing them from regular Space Marines led to their messy deaths. Though later, a captain of the Thousand Sons was fairly certain that their psyker-medics could figure out how to remove them from [[Kharn|a certain swell guy]] who killed him shortly afterwards. The Emperor, in his infinite wisdom, told Angron none of this whatsoever. Because fuck that guy.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Angron was introduced to his legion he was inconsolable, and ended up hacking apart it&#039;s captains until Kharn (who was actually much further down the list of command, and rose up the ladder because everyone above him had been dismembered) managed to talk some sense into his father. He then renamed his legion the &#039;&#039;World Eaters&#039;&#039; , a name you might recognize translates to &amp;quot;fucking savage&amp;quot; in the common tongue. Also, the old army of gladiators he led was known as &amp;quot;the eaters of cities&amp;quot;. As &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Kharn&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;(actually it wasn&#039;t Kharn, but another highranking World eater)&#039;&#039;&#039; described it, from then on they would no longer be the War Hounds, but Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;eaters of worlds&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, remember how he was lobotomized so he finds joy only killing shit? He then replicated this technology on his legionaries, despite the Empy&#039;s warnings. Even in spite of being the first legionary to GIT SOME, [[Kharn|that swell guy]] became Angron&#039;s &#039;cool headed&#039; equerry. Ironic. Get it? Cause they&#039;re &amp;quot;Butchers nails&amp;quot; and nails are irony. Did that make you mad? Was it as painful for you to read? Good, because that&#039;s what they feel like.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Great Crusade, the World Eaters were known as the Imperium&#039;s butcher force. Their threat of arrival or even just their arrival in a system was enough to make non-compliant imperial worlds surrender, lest they be completely and utterly be butchered by the Red Angel and his sons. Which only made it easier for the World Eaters to butcher them.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the great Crusade he actually had a run in with [[Leman Russ]], who was under orders to sort Angron&#039;s shit out and stop him from using the Butchers Nails, presumably because the World Eaters were a bit out of control and wrecking worlds rather than conquering them. There was a brief skirmish where Angron fought Leman Russ in personal combat (an event which would come to be known as the &amp;quot;Night of the Wolf&amp;quot;) and made him his personal bitch until he was outmaneouvered by the Space Wolves troops, but Angron refused to acknowledge his losing position since his sons were steadily butchering the Space Wolves in the larger battle. So there was a lesson about properly claiming objectives, which Angron ignored since he believed that killing EVERYONE should be the only objective. Angron&#039;s failure to learn was amply demonstrated at the tail end of the Great Crusade, when he butchered a whole city which had just surrendered, and then on Isstvan III when he sabotaged Horus&#039; clean exterminatus by going down to rip the loyalists apart personally.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
Angron was, according to Horus and Lorgar, the only Primarch (beside Horus himself) that would be able to successfully take on and beat Sanguinius in full rage mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Horus Heresy he had an epic showdown with [[Roboute Guilliman]] when he saved [[Lorgar]] from big boy blue. Guilliman calls Angron out to which the Red Angel replied as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?&amp;quot; [...] &amp;quot;The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Choke on deez nuts, Papa Smurf. Guilliman could only quip this back before running the fuck away:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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And in a way, both of them were right. (Although to be fair, the Butcher&#039;s Nails had long since destroyed Angron&#039;s ability to feel any emotion other than unrelenting fury, so he probably didn&#039;t even give a single fuck.) &lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;during this battle&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; one or two battles beforehand a Warhound Scout Titan tried to step on Lorgar after the Aurelian had taken two discharges of the the titan&#039;s main plasma weapon and was badly hurt in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
Angron stepped in to save his brother, basically catching the titan&#039;s foot and setting a new world record in squat weightlifting, keeping the titans weight suspended above himself through his sheer strength and RAGE, until Lorgar could escape. And this was after digging his way up through 200+ feet of solid debris. Because when it comes to Angron, they don&#039;t think it be like it is but it do. Of course, after this the relationship between the two primarchs became pretty remarkable, and Lorgar ended up repaying the favor by arranging for Angron&#039;s ascension into a Daemon Prince, although the transformation was so traumatic that even the Urizen couldn&#039;t help but feel a moment of doubt over what he had done.&lt;br /&gt;
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And even in daemonhood, they &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; can&#039;t get the Nails out. Dang. Fucking Archeotech was built to &#039;&#039;last&#039;&#039;!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Angrondemon.jpg|400px|thumb|I&#039;VEHADDREADLOCKSFORTENTHOUSANDFUCKINGYEARSSOMEBODYKILLMEAAAAAAAAAARGH]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==41st Millennium==&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron has done far more shit than all the other Daemon Primarchs put together. Instead of &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Fulgrim|sitting around being a painting on some Chaos God&#039;s wall&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;]] Killing TWO Primarchs, [[Mortarion|sitting around while being a rotting fatass and feeling sorry for themselves]], &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Magnus the Red|sitting around and yelling just as planned anytime anything happens]]&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; (Magnus personally attacked Fenris itself and laid waste to much of the planet and destroyed a lot of gene-seed, proving that [[Tzeentch]] can get shit done too),[[Lorgar|sitting around and preaching constantly]], [[Horus|being]] [[Alpharius|(Maybe)]] [[Konrad Curze|dead]], or [[Primarch#Two Missing Primarchs|being missing]] Angron actually gets shit done and boy howdy when he [[rage|rages]] his way out of the eye of terror he makes sure that everyone knows about it...by tearing &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; that gets in his way a new one until he finally gets thrown back into the warp by drowning in a quadrillion metric fucktons of [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Guardsmen]], Planetary Defense Force soldiers, [[Space Marines|Spehss Mehreens]], [[Witch Hunters]], [[Sisters of Battle|Bolter Bitches]], [[Titan|Titans]], [[Stormtrooper|Inquisitorial Stormtroopers]], [[Daemonhunters]], and [[Grey Knights]], but to be fair, everyone kind of does that when the Imperium &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;finishes the paperwork needed to&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; retaliates.  &lt;br /&gt;
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One day the [[Chaos Pretty Marines]] asked if they could join his World Eaters in his Dominion of Fire campaign, he responded to this offer by chopping up 900 of the prissy little Slaanesh worshiping faggots and grabbed their Chaos Chapter Master and Chief Sorcerer by the necks and tossed them into a black hole while screaming &amp;quot;FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-&amp;quot; throughout the entire hour of butchery. To this day the Chaos Pretty Marines remain too undermanned to participate in any black crusades or Angron rages, which isn&#039;t really a surprise since Angron has been fucking the loyalist Pretty Marines&#039; shit up at every turn.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also slaughtered his way throughout Imperial Space for over a century with 50,000 World Eater [[Berserker]]s and destroyed/maim&#039;dkill&#039;dburn&#039;d/broke the backs of/split open/fucked 70 sectors. However, in a subsequent Imperial offensive, Angron was banished to the warp and his men routed. To be fair, this strike force comprised 2 Titan Legions, 4 full Spess Mehreen chapters and over 30 Imperial Guard regiments to do that. And again to be fair, they put up quite a fight against the superior force. And even more impressive was that Angron&#039;s force only comprised Close Combat heavy infantry, no ranged support, and no artillery. Later on, he showed up with an even bigger force to attack Armageddon. The Imperium responded in kind, sending in one hundred [[Grey Knights|Grey Knight Terminators]], and all but ten of them died fighting Angron and his Bloodthirster posse(and only because their prodigy Librarian Hyperion managed to shatter his sword, and he STILL managed to murder their leader with just his bare fists). He is armed with a really huge fucking chainaxe that&#039;s taller than him with chainswords for the chainteeth of the chainaxe. He&#039;s also got a stormbolter, but we wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that fired chainswords as well. Fittingly enough, it was called &#039;Godtearer&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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==In video games==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, he hasn&#039;t appeared in any of the official games, which greatly displeases [[Khorne]]. However, in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for [[Dawn of War]], he takes the place of the Chaos Daemons&#039; &amp;quot;game-ending win button&amp;quot; unit - and he&#039;s a walking rapetrain that can [[Awesome|obliterate buildings with a single hit, take out Titans in three, make himself invincible, and summon a retinue of Bloodthirsters]]. &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;So he&#039;s really the best unit in the game.&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; The Grand Master, Arch Angel, [[%C3%86onic_Orb]], and The Generals Personal Reaver Titan disagree.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
He has stats from [[White Dwarf]] that makes him a 500 point walking rapemachine who makes [[Abaddon]] the Despoiler and [[Mephiston]] look like total pussies, but you have to get him a bodyguard of at least 7-12 [[Bloodthirster|bloodthirsters]], which effectively racks up his point cost to over 1300 at the least. But with his mandatory bloodthirster bodyguard he can even kill An&#039;ggrath, the biggest and baddest bloodthirster of them all.  But they would never fight in canon because An&#039;ggrath is one of the only entities in the universe that Angron respects due to An&#039;ggrath&#039;s equal capacity for [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEGGGG!!!]]... oh and Khorne says his champions can&#039;t fight each other because despite being balls-to-the-wall angry, Khorne knows well enough that the more champions he has on his side, the more blood spilled on his behalf. Thus, offing one of his champs is counter-productive since he&#039;s losing more than he&#039;s eventually gaining.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Horus Heresy rules for him are only a bit less scary, and a lot cheaper too (20%, in fact).&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously one of the strongest Primarch in the game when things come to HtH, Angron has a 3+ armor (weak for a demigod), 4+ invulnerable, FNP 6+, the Primarch rule, 5 wounds and T6. On the charge he has 7 S9 attacks (6 S8 normally) at WS9 with Hatred, so he gets to reroll to-hit rolls on the first turn of any combat, while also having Armourbane and dealing Instant Death on to wound roll of 6, in case S8-9 doesn&#039;t instagib anything right away. Thanks to the Butcher&#039;s Nail he will gain 1 bonus attack, up to 10 total attacks, for every Independent Character or Infantry unit he kills/destroys in close combat (But he must be the one to give the fatal blow/remove the last model to pick up this bonus) and he can also challenge as many times as there are Independent Characters and units in combat with him thanks to the Red Sands rule, assuring he will at least pick some extra attacks during the course of the game. The obvious downsides are that, aside from butchering things in melee, Angron cannot do anything: he doesn&#039;t buff his army in any way aside 12&amp;quot; aura of Fearless, while other Primarchs bestow significant buffs to their armies, and of course he is one of the (if not THE) most fragile of the Primarchs, having only 5 wounds and 3+/4++ with nothing but unreliable 6+ FNP to back it up. So all in all he&#039;s much like Kharn on steroids: you reach melee - you&#039;re king, you get your transport blown up and then get kited across the table - you&#039;re fucked. The other problem he shares with Kharn is that he tends to annihilate anything he charges in one phase either through sweeping advance or just by killing everyone outright, which leaves him vulnerable to enemy fire afterwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Angron VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (But with Angron this is less likely as you&#039;re going to die or kill fast!), with that in mind this section is about how Angron fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise.  Please note that all the various abilities are taken into accounts when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. The fights are supposed to be in a vacuum for simplicity (So no Furious Charge for our hero...), but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.111 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Even without taking into account Disabling Strike, Horus wins (though barely) as his superior wounds and saves makes him overcome the damage output of Angron. That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t include the statistics but with Disabling Strike acting Angron would fastly become unable to do any damage to Horus, making the victory a lot more certain.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.   &lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion just barely loses this fight by one turn as his extra wound almost allows him to outlast Angron.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 1.069 (1.248) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.736 (0.915) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage (if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t chose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait) but is frailer (the irony!) with a weaker save and 1 less wound (I guess that&#039;s the catch to have nails inserted directly into your brain...) so he will need 6 (6.1) rounds to kill Fulgrim, with the latter also needing 6 (5.5), but since Fulgrim has higher initiative he&#039;ll strike first and kill Angron just slightly before he&#039;s killed. Also with Child of Terra there is almost no contest...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.868 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.535 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Again even if Angron does overall more damage, Ferrus is so tanky that he will kill Angron before he can kill him (on turn 9, while Angron need 10). Also Ferrus strikes before him thanks to strikedown, making his victory even more guaranteed.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.9375 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.604 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins, doing a lot more damage and receiving less in turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Curze can Hit &amp;amp; Run, but by doing so he would only gain one more attack, while allowing Angron to reset his Hatred, thus actually making himself dies even faster. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 wounds after saves (ID Negates FNP) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.63.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Strangely enough, Vulkan wins through sheer resilience. Then again, he is immortal...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Lorgar &lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.833 after saves and FNP and IWND will take that to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 3.111 times, 1.555 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins pretty easily.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: against Lorgar Transfigured with Precognition Lorgar wins (Not as easily as the old version, but is still a monster).&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.69 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: in the turn after Perturabo actually wounds Angron (69% per round) he will most probably be blinded and then hammered to death. So if he can&#039;t kill him before that he is actually dead meat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.917 times, wounds 1.7 times, 0.71 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.375 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily takes the win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.625 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.291 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.444.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Rogal Dorn does not use Sundering Blow because it is inefficient in Primarch vs Primarch fights.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 1.25 wounds (Scourge)/0.9375 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and FNP and  IWND will take that down to 0.917/0.604 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333/4.5 times, wounds 4.444/3.75 times, 2.963/2.5 after saves, and IWND take it down to 2.63/2.167.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4/3 times, wounds 3.333/2.5 times, 2.222/1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.889/1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins really easily as Corax is simply too frail for him. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: differently from Curze, Corax would actually have the edge on the charge thanks to his Sire of the Raven Guard rule and his Hammer of Wrath/dual Archeotech Pistols. Also in a turn in wich blind goes off he could have the advantage of Shadow-walk and scourge at the same times (plus more, &#039;cause he would hit on 3s). A though fight, but more on his style and it could make him win in extremis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1/2/3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.926 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.59 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 4 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 1.234 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.9 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, 1.722 after Armor of Reason re-roll and IWND take it down to 1.388.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves, 1.167 after re-roll and  IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 3 and thereafter: Angron hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 after saves and 0.75 after re-roll. Then IWND take it down to 0.417 &lt;br /&gt;
**Surprisingly, Guilliman win this fight in 8 rounds (Angron need 11 to kill him), &#039;for his resilience (Armour of Reason) coupled with Preternatural Strategy makes him outdamage Angron on the long run, even though initially it was the Red Angel to have the edge. Lets try this again when the rules for Daemon Primarch Angron come out...&lt;br /&gt;
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* TLDR version: Angron is incredibly strong against &amp;quot;frail&amp;quot; primarchs, butchering them pretty fast, but struggle to keep up with the tanks (Vulkan, Ferrus, and even...[[Derp|Guilliman]]...) and being pretty frail doesn&#039;t do him any good. Also he is pretty vulnerable to Strikedown, Concussive or Blind, all of which will severely cripple his overall damage potential. Also, with his attacks maxed out he can destroy any other Primarch (even Lorgar with Precognition, though it is damn close) with the exception of...yeah, you guessed it right: Horus! Even though he will surely put a dent even in the Warmaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Angaron.jpg|WHY IS HE BEATING UP HIS OWN LEGION said everyone on Isstvan III&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron.jpg|Can [[Anime|Vegeta]] say what his power level is?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron Butchers Nails.jpg|Angron before Daemonhood. The only real difference is a lack of wings.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aerion&#039;s Angron.jpg|Angron portrayed in his natural state: PISSED THE FUCK OFF!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron by alexboca-d7930i6.jpg|Angron just generally being a boss (and looking absolutely goddamn awesome while doing so).&lt;br /&gt;
File:angron_is_for_angry_by_sunradio-d6oferw.jpg|Daemon Primarch Angron at the final battle of the First war of Armageddon.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:World Eaters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Angron and his World Eaters, pre-heresy and pre-[[daemon prince]] in a rare state of tranquility standing on top of [[grimdark|a pile made of snow and dead bodies]].  It&#039;s hard to calm down when there&#039;s nails in your brain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{heresy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
— Mark Twain&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A lot of people have tragic childhoods. But you know what? Get over it.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
-Phil McGraw or kinda what [[Roboute Guilliman|Rowboat Girlyman]] said in fewer words to Angron&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;YOU SMUG SON OF A BITCH!&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Randy Orton, Angron&#039;s repsonse to Rowboat Girlyman, in fewer words&lt;br /&gt;
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His name is Angron (A.K.A. &#039;&#039;&#039;The Red Angel&#039;&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;Shithead&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re sergeant Gharte). Cmon, do we really have to spell it out? While his name may be a play on the words &amp;quot;Anger&amp;quot;, it is possible that his name is based on the Greek word &amp;quot;Agrion&amp;quot; which means &amp;quot;Wild&amp;quot; (Which pretty much suits him considering he&#039;s the angriest, wildest, mother-fucking mother fucker in a long and extensive history of bipedal mother fuckers). Also, if you spell his name backwards it&#039;s Norgna, which has to count for something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe the angriest son of a bitch in the galaxy, he is LITERALLY THE EMBODIMENT OF BADASSERY. And anger, because have we mentioned how angry he always is? And speaking of angry, one time he was so angry that the part of him that made him angry exploded from his head, thus making him permanently angry. Not to mention that time he was kidnapped by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emprah]], which didn&#039;t help his temper much, and gave him an excuse to fucking RAGE at his dad by joining up with [[Khorne]], Warhammer&#039;s God of Battle, War and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]! Angron just so happens to be [[Primarch]] of the [[World eaters|World Eaters]] and [[Kharn|that swell guy]]. He is Khorne&#039;s second most powerful champion, where he falls short to [[Doombreed]], Khorne&#039;s first ever [[Daemon Prince]]/Champion. But we can forgive him, because nobody can beat [[Genghis motherfucking Khan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His revered exploits include slaughtering the entire population of a planet within a night, killing an entire contingent of Eldar warriors led by a Farseer when he was only a child, and leading a gladiator rebellion against their slavers and slaughtering every army sent against them until a huge one made up of seven armies came and fucked their shit up against a dirty rock. However, one must understand that they had already beaten 25 other armies non stop and didn&#039;t even have tea afterwards (the absolute madman!). The Emperor saved him from dying here, which was a tremendous blow to his martial pride and soon after he [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]ed furiously against the Emperor, believing him a coward devoid of honor, and joined up with KHORNE, the aforementioned God of War, Murder, Killing, Bloodshed, Weeping Buttholes, Battle and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life &amp;amp; Great Crusade==&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s got good reason to be ever-so-slightly miffed: his pre-daemonhood life was one big bowl of shit after another. First he crash-landed on his new home world (because Khorne didn&#039;t give him a soft landing) and had a good chunk of his head torn off in the crash, after which he got jumped by the aforementioned Eldar, then (tired from the killing and the massive brain trauma; keep in mind he&#039;s like 6 hours old) got captured and sold into slavery by people with near-Imperial level technology who JAM ARCHAEOTECH SHIT straight into his brain-meat... the kind that makes it so the only time he can feel anything resembling happiness is *while murdering*, BEFORE PROCEEDING to make him fight as a gladiator. &lt;br /&gt;
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So of course Angron eventually sets up a rebellion and fights to free his &amp;quot;brother and sister&amp;quot; gladiators. But when the Emperor comes along, does he help Angron with his totally justified rebellion?  Nope, he takes Angron away from the only people who weren&#039;t shitty to him (leaving them all to die) and never looks back. To be fair, there&#039;s a good possibility that those gladiators were Khorne-corruption fodder, and thus the Emperor figured that saving them would just lead to more enemies in the future, and it&#039;s perfectly in-character for him to be a huge dick and not mention it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, according to the novel &#039;&#039;Betrayer&#039;&#039; it turns out that the Emperor had already made a deal with the government of Angron&#039;s planet. Therefore it was easier for the Emperor to capture Angron and win over the planet without further bloodshed rather than helping his son win a war against a population that had already submitted to compliance. And the only reason Big E didn&#039;t tell Angron any of this was because he couldn&#039;t give less of a shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s implied in the novels that E-Money took one look at Angron&#039;s fucked-up (and dying- the Butcher&#039;s Nails were quite literally destroying his brain so fast that the Mechanicus estimated that he wouldn&#039;t live long enough to see the end of the Great Crusade) skull and decided that he was a waste of time and effort, and went off to go suck Horus&#039; dick some more. While some might argue that he could have at least tried to removed the Butcher&#039;s Nails, keep in mind that all attempts at removing them from regular Space Marines led to their messy deaths. Though later, a captain of the Thousand Sons was fairly certain that their psyker-medics could figure out how to remove them from [[Kharn|a certain swell guy]] who killed him shortly afterwards. The Emperor, in his infinite wisdom, told Angron none of this whatsoever. Because fuck that guy.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Angron was introduced to his legion he was inconsolable, and ended up hacking apart it&#039;s captains until Kharn (who was actually much further down the list of command, and rose up the ladder because everyone above him had been dismembered) managed to talk some sense into his father. He then renamed his legion the &#039;&#039;World Eaters&#039;&#039; , a name you might recognize translates to &amp;quot;fucking savage&amp;quot; in the common tongue. Also, the old army of gladiators he led was known as &amp;quot;the eaters of cities&amp;quot;. As &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Kharn&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;(actually it wasn&#039;t Kharn, but another highranking World eater)&#039;&#039;&#039; described it, from then on they would no longer be the War Hounds, but Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;eaters of worlds&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah, remember how he was lobotomized so he finds joy only killing shit? He then replicated this technology on his legionaries, despite the Empy&#039;s warnings. Even in spite of being the first legionary to GIT SOME, [[Kharn|that swell guy]] became Angron&#039;s &#039;cool headed&#039; equerry. Ironic. Get it? Cause they&#039;re &amp;quot;Butchers nails&amp;quot; and nails are irony. Did that make you mad? Was it as painful for you to read? Good, because that&#039;s what they feel like.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Great Crusade, the World Eaters were known as the Imperium&#039;s butcher force. Their threat of arrival or even just their arrival in a system was enough to make non-compliant imperial worlds surrender, lest they be completely and utterly be butchered by the Red Angel and his sons. Which only made it easier for the World Eaters to butcher them.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the great Crusade he actually had a run in with [[Leman Russ]], who was under orders to sort Angron&#039;s shit out and stop him from using the Butchers Nails, presumably because the World Eaters were a bit out of control and wrecking worlds rather than conquering them. There was a brief skirmish where Angron fought Leman Russ in personal combat (an event which would come to be known as the &amp;quot;Night of the Wolf&amp;quot;) and made him his personal bitch until he was outmaneouvered by the Space Wolves troops, but Angron refused to acknowledge his losing position since his sons were steadily butchering the Space Wolves in the larger battle. So there was a lesson about properly claiming objectives, which Angron ignored since he believed that killing EVERYONE should be the only objective. Angron&#039;s failure to learn was amply demonstrated at the tail end of the Great Crusade, when he butchered a whole city which had just surrendered, and then on Isstvan III when he sabotaged Horus&#039; clean exterminatus by going down to rip the loyalists apart personally.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Horus Heresy==&lt;br /&gt;
Angron was, according to Horus and Lorgar, the only Primarch (beside Horus himself) that would be able to successfully take on and beat Sanguinius in full rage mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Horus Heresy he had an epic showdown with [[Roboute Guilliman]] when he saved [[Lorgar]] from big boy blue. Guilliman calls Angron out to which the Red Angel replied as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?&amp;quot; [...] &amp;quot;The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Choke on deez nuts, Papa Smurf. Guilliman could only quip this back before running the fuck away:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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And in a way, both of them were right. (Although to be fair, the Butcher&#039;s Nails had long since destroyed Angron&#039;s ability to feel any emotion other than unrelenting fury, so he probably didn&#039;t even give a single fuck.) &lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;during this battle&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; one or two battles beforehand a Warhound Scout Titan tried to step on Lorgar after the Aurelian had taken two discharges of the the titan&#039;s main plasma weapon and was badly hurt in the process.&lt;br /&gt;
Angron stepped in to save his brother, basically catching the titan&#039;s foot and setting a new world record in squat weightlifting, keeping the titans weight suspended above himself through his sheer strength and RAGE, until Lorgar could escape. And this was after digging his way up through 200+ feet of solid debris. Because when it comes to Angron, they don&#039;t think it be like it is but it do. Of course, after this the relationship between the two primarchs became pretty remarkable, and Lorgar ended up repaying the favor by arranging for Angron&#039;s ascension into a Daemon Prince, although the transformation was so traumatic that even the Urizen couldn&#039;t help but feel a moment of doubt over what he had done.&lt;br /&gt;
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And even in daemonhood, they &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; can&#039;t get the Nails out. Dang. Fucking Archeotech was built to &#039;&#039;last&#039;&#039;!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Angrondemon.jpg|400px|thumb|I&#039;VEHADDREADLOCKSFORTENTHOUSANDFUCKINGYEARSSOMEBODYKILLMEAAAAAAAAAARGH]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==41st Millennium==&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron has done far more shit than all the other Daemon Primarchs put together. Instead of &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Fulgrim|sitting around being a painting on some Chaos God&#039;s wall&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;]] Killing TWO Primarchs, [[Mortarion|sitting around while being a rotting fatass and feeling sorry for themselves]], &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Magnus the Red|sitting around and yelling just as planned anytime anything happens]]&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; (Magnus personally attacked Fenris itself and laid waste to much of the planet and destroyed a lot of gene-seed, proving that [[Tzeentch]] can get shit done too),[[Lorgar|sitting around and preaching constantly]], [[Horus|being]] [[Alpharius|(Maybe)]] [[Konrad Curze|dead]], or [[Primarch#Two Missing Primarchs|being missing]] Angron actually gets shit done and boy howdy when he [[rage|rages]] his way out of the eye of terror he makes sure that everyone knows about it...by tearing &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; that gets in his way a new one until he finally gets thrown back into the warp by drowning in a quadrillion metric fucktons of [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Guardsmen]], Planetary Defense Force soldiers, [[Space Marines|Spehss Mehreens]], [[Witch Hunters]], [[Sisters of Battle|Bolter Bitches]], [[Titan|Titans]], [[Stormtrooper|Inquisitorial Stormtroopers]], [[Daemonhunters]], and [[Grey Knights]], but to be fair, everyone kind of does that when the Imperium &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;finishes the paperwork needed to&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; retaliates.  &lt;br /&gt;
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One day the [[Chaos Pretty Marines]] asked if they could join his World Eaters in his Dominion of Fire campaign, he responded to this offer by chopping up 900 of the prissy little Slaanesh worshiping faggots and grabbed their Chaos Chapter Master and Chief Sorcerer by the necks and tossed them into a black hole while screaming &amp;quot;FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-&amp;quot; throughout the entire hour of butchery. To this day the Chaos Pretty Marines remain too undermanned to participate in any black crusades or Angron rages, which isn&#039;t really a surprise since Angron has been fucking the loyalist Pretty Marines&#039; shit up at every turn.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also slaughtered his way throughout Imperial Space for over a century with 50,000 World Eater [[Berserker]]s and destroyed/maim&#039;dkill&#039;dburn&#039;d/broke the backs of/split open/fucked 70 sectors. However, in a subsequent Imperial offensive, Angron was banished to the warp and his men routed. To be fair, this strike force comprised 2 Titan Legions, 4 full Spess Mehreen chapters and over 30 Imperial Guard regiments to do that. And again to be fair, they put up quite a fight against the superior force. And even more impressive was that Angron&#039;s force only comprised Close Combat heavy infantry, no ranged support, and no artillery. Later on, he showed up with an even bigger force to attack Armageddon. The Imperium responded in kind, sending in one hundred [[Grey Knights|Grey Knight Terminators]], and all but ten of them died fighting Angron and his Bloodthirster posse(and only because their prodigy Librarian Hyperion managed to shatter his sword, and he STILL managed to murder their leader with just his bare fists). He is armed with a really huge fucking chainaxe that&#039;s taller than him with chainswords for the chainteeth of the chainaxe. He&#039;s also got a stormbolter, but we wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that fired chainswords as well. Fittingly enough, it was called &#039;Godtearer&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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==In video games==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, he hasn&#039;t appeared in any of the official games, which greatly displeases [[Khorne]]. However, in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for [[Dawn of War]], he takes the place of the Chaos Daemons&#039; &amp;quot;game-ending win button&amp;quot; unit - and he&#039;s a walking rapetrain that can [[Awesome|obliterate buildings with a single hit, take out Titans in three, make himself invincible, and summon a retinue of Bloodthirsters]]. &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;So he&#039;s really the best unit in the game.&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; The Grand Master, Arch Angel, [[%C3%86onic_Orb]], and The Generals Personal Reaver Titan disagree.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
He has stats from [[White Dwarf]] that makes him a 500 point walking rapemachine who makes [[Abaddon]] the Despoiler and [[Mephiston]] look like total pussies, but you have to get him a bodyguard of at least 7-12 [[Bloodthirster|bloodthirsters]], which effectively racks up his point cost to over 1300 at the least. But with his mandatory bloodthirster bodyguard he can even kill An&#039;ggrath, the biggest and baddest bloodthirster of them all.  But they would never fight in canon because An&#039;ggrath is one of the only entities in the universe that Angron respects due to An&#039;ggrath&#039;s equal capacity for [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEGGGG!!!]]... oh and Khorne says his champions can&#039;t fight each other because despite being balls-to-the-wall angry, Khorne knows well enough that the more champions he has on his side, the more blood spilled on his behalf. Thus, offing one of his champs is counter-productive since he&#039;s losing more than he&#039;s eventually gaining.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Horus Heresy rules for him are only a bit less scary, and a lot cheaper too (20%, in fact).&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously one of the strongest Primarch in the game when things come to HtH, Angron has a 3+ armor (weak for a demigod), 4+ invulnerable, FNP 6+, the Primarch rule, 5 wounds and T6. On the charge he has 7 S9 attacks (6 S8 normally) at WS9 with Hatred, so he gets to reroll to-hit rolls on the first turn of any combat, while also having Armourbane and dealing Instant Death on to wound roll of 6, in case S8-9 doesn&#039;t instagib anything right away. Thanks to the Butcher&#039;s Nail he will gain 1 bonus attack, up to 10 total attacks, for every Independent Character or Infantry unit he kills/destroys in close combat (But he must be the one to give the fatal blow/remove the last model to pick up this bonus) and he can also challenge as many times as there are Independent Characters and units in combat with him thanks to the Red Sands rule, assuring he will at least pick some extra attacks during the course of the game. The obvious downsides are that, aside from butchering things in melee, Angron cannot do anything: he doesn&#039;t buff his army in any way aside 12&amp;quot; aura of Fearless, while other Primarchs bestow significant buffs to their armies, and of course he is one of the (if not THE) most fragile of the Primarchs, having only 5 wounds and 3+/4++ with nothing but unreliable 6+ FNP to back it up. So all in all he&#039;s much like Kharn on steroids: you reach melee - you&#039;re king, you get your transport blown up and then get kited across the table - you&#039;re fucked. The other problem he shares with Kharn is that he tends to annihilate anything he charges in one phase either through sweeping advance or just by killing everyone outright, which leaves him vulnerable to enemy fire afterwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Angron VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (But with Angron this is less likely as you&#039;re going to die or kill fast!), with that in mind this section is about how Angron fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise.  Please note that all the various abilities are taken into accounts when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. The fights are supposed to be in a vacuum for simplicity (So no Furious Charge for our hero...), but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.111 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Even without taking into account Disabling Strike, Horus wins (though barely) as his superior wounds and saves makes him overcome the damage output of Angron. That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t include the statistics but with Disabling Strike acting Angron would fastly become unable to do any damage to Horus, making the victory a lot more certain.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.   &lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion just barely loses this fight by one turn as his extra wound almost allows him to outlast Angron.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 1.069 (1.248) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.736 (0.915) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage (if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t chose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait) but is frailer (the irony!) with a weaker save and 1 less wound (I guess that&#039;s the catch to have nails inserted directly into your brain...) so he will need 6 (6.1) rounds to kill Fulgrim, with the latter also needing 6 (5.5), but since Fulgrim has higher initiative he&#039;ll strike first and kill Angron just slightly before he&#039;s killed. Also with Child of Terra there is almost no contest...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.868 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.535 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Again even if Angron does overall more damage, Ferrus is so tanky that he will kill Angron before he can kill him (on turn 9, while Angron need 10). Also Ferrus strikes before him thanks to strikedown, making his victory even more guaranteed.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.9375 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.604 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins, doing a lot more damage and receiving less in turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Curze can Hit &amp;amp; Run, but by doing so he would only gain one more attack, while allowing Angron to reset his Hatred, thus actually making himself dies even faster. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 wounds after saves (ID Negates FNP) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.63.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Strangely enough, Vulkan wins through sheer resilience. Then again, he is immortal...&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Lorgar &lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.833 after saves and FNP and IWND will take that to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 3.111 times, 1.555 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins pretty easily.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: against Lorgar Transfigured with Precognition Lorgar wins (Not as easily as the old version, but is still a monster).&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.69 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: in the turn after Perturabo actually wounds Angron (69% per round) he will most probably be blinded and then hammered to death. So if he can&#039;t kill him before that he is actually dead meat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.917 times, wounds 1.7 times, 0.71 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.375 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily takes the win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.625 wounds after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.291 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.444.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Rogal Dorn does not use Sundering Blow because it is inefficient in Primarch vs Primarch fights.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 1.25 wounds (Scourge)/0.9375 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and FNP and  IWND will take that down to 0.917/0.604 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333/4.5 times, wounds 4.444/3.75 times, 2.963/2.5 after saves, and IWND take it down to 2.63/2.167.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4/3 times, wounds 3.333/2.5 times, 2.222/1.667 times after saves and  IWND will take that down to 1.889/1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins really easily as Corax is simply too frail for him. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: differently from Curze, Corax would actually have the edge on the charge thanks to his Sire of the Raven Guard rule and his Hammer of Wrath/dual Archeotech Pistols. Also in a turn in wich blind goes off he could have the advantage of Shadow-walk and scourge at the same times (plus more, &#039;cause he would hit on 3s). A though fight, but more on his style and it could make him win in extremis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1/2/3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.926 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.59 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 4 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 1.234 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.9 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, 1.722 after Armor of Reason re-roll and IWND take it down to 1.388.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves, 1.167 after re-roll and  IWND will take that down to 0.833 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 3 and thereafter: Angron hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 after saves and 0.75 after re-roll. Then IWND take it down to 0.417 &lt;br /&gt;
**Surprisingly, Guilliman win this fight in 8 rounds (Angron need 11 to kill him), &#039;for his resilience (Armour of Reason) coupled with Preternatural Strategy makes him outdamage Angron on the long run, even though initially it was the Red Angel to have the edge. Lets try this again when the rules for Daemon Primarch Angron come out...&lt;br /&gt;
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* TLDR version: Angron is incredibly strong against &amp;quot;frail&amp;quot; primarchs, butchering them pretty fast, but struggle to keep up with the tanks (Vulkan, Ferrus, and even...[[Derp|Guilliman]]...) and being pretty frail doesn&#039;t do him any good. Also he is pretty vulnerable to Strikedown, Concussive or Blind, all of which will severely cripple his overall damage potential. Also, with his attacks maxed out he can destroy any other Primarch (even Lorgar with Precognition, though it is damn close) with the exception of...yeah, you guessed it right: Horus! Even though he will surely put a dent even in the Warmaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Angaron.jpg|WHY IS HE BEATING UP HIS OWN LEGION said everyone on Isstvan III&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron.jpg|Can [[Anime|Vegeta]] say what his power level is?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron Butchers Nails.jpg|Angron before Daemonhood. The only real difference is a lack of wings.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aerion&#039;s Angron.jpg|Angron portrayed in his natural state: PISSED THE FUCK OFF!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron by alexboca-d7930i6.jpg|Angron just generally being a boss (and looking absolutely goddamn awesome while doing so).&lt;br /&gt;
File:angron_is_for_angry_by_sunradio-d6oferw.jpg|Daemon Primarch Angron at the final battle of the First war of Armageddon.&lt;br /&gt;
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