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		<title>-4 Str</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2603:6011:3340:FF0D:7C05:3DD6:7969:5FD3: /* History */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Women are weak.JPG|thumb|-4 Str Git Bak In Teh Kitchen1!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;-4 Str&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[meme]] and [[Troll|trollbait]] from [[/tg/]]. The term is used as a shorthand way of saying that all women -- especially [[adventurers]] -- are significantly weaker than men, and ought to take a -4 modifier to their [[Stat|strength]] score. One can guarantee that by invoking these words, a [[musclegirl]] image dump or a stupid argument on whether or not real-life sexual dimorphism is significant enough to stat out will ensue (sometimes both). In any case, it&#039;s not worth taking seriously, whether the offending (haw) poster [[/pol/|actually thinks it should be]] or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
Though its origins are shrouded in mystery, some evidence has come along to point to -4 Str&#039;s beginnings, or at least a very similar concept.&lt;br /&gt;
:An oldfag says: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;This meme is at least as old as 1978. Check page 15 of [[Advanced Dungeons &amp;amp; Dragons|1st ed. AD&amp;amp;D]]: a table for racial min/max for each stat and gender, but the only real difference is -1 Str for femme [[Dwarf|Dwarves]], -2 Str for femme [[Elf|Elves]], -3 Str for femme [[Gnome]]s and [[Halfling]]s. All the other stats -- Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Chr -- are the same for both genders. Cue feminazi bashing of [[Gary Gygax]].&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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There &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; other differences than the list above, like female humans only getting up to 18/50 Strength where male humans can reach the max cap of 18/100.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also:== &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Katanas are Underpowered in d20#Women are Underpowered in D20|Women are Underpowered in d20]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_records_in_athletics List of world records in athletics]	&lt;br /&gt;
*Comparable weight classes in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting list of world records in weightlifting]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:No -4 STR.jpg|&amp;quot;ah-ha-ha-ha NO.(Though hers is a display of agility...)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:-4_Strength.JPG|A wild musclegirl appears! Wat do?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:-4strbawwderp.JPG|A popular image for posting in -4 str threads.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:AD&amp;amp;D page16.png|1st Ed D&amp;amp;D; the origin of the meme?&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Minus4strbanned.png|Who says there are no [[mods]] in /tg/?&lt;br /&gt;
File:1230052783344.png|I bet 30 internetz that she couldn&#039;t do this without the power armor. That, and a Space Marine is even stronger (true, but Space Marines also have much more genetic modifications).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Meme]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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