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2021-02-01T20:23:28Z

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{{Infobox Deity
|Name = Electronic Arts Inc.
|Symbol = The letters "EA", or a sealed Card Pack labelled "Surprise Mechanic (not Gambling, We Promise)"
|Alignment = [[Stupid Evil]] and/or Neutral Evil
|Divine Rank = AAA
|Pantheon = Gaming
|Portfolio = 8.58 Billion (2018)
|Domains = Greed, Stupidity, Bad Management
|Home Plane = California
|Worshippers = Gamers, [[That Guy]]
|Favoured Weapon = Exploit worker, Union Breaker, Devour Smaller Studios, Weinsteinian culture, Treachery
}}

'''Electronic Arts''', most commonly known as: '''EA''', is an American video game company, based in Redwood City, California. One of the most, if not THE most, controversial VG companies today, due to a [[wikipedia:Criticism of Electronic Arts|slew of unethical business practices]]. Also they're rated as one of the worst companies in America, so go figure. If ever it was appropriate to use an alignment system in real life, EA squarely goes into that special zone of Neutral Evil which sees no redemption. Their company simply represents every negative aspect of capitalism with no care for longer term, sustainable gains.

However, their most infamous and unique practice that everyone absolutely hates is acquiring smaller studios with popular games like Bioware and Westwood, to assume direct control of their IPs. This is pretty common in business, if it wasn't for the fact that EA will do everything in its power to gain complete control over development of its games, in order to maximize short-term profit, by force if needed (by firing or shelving people who disagree). They will strongly encourage these studios to produce highly-monetized games in the popular flavor-of-the-month, at the expense of what fans liked about them; this is made worse by rushed, inflexible deadlines and stretching staff thin to patch up the previous games' blunders, resulting in a half-baked if not completely broken product at launch, which will end up losing all post-launch support before the game even has a chance to be properly fixed. [[Tyranids|Once the studio's series are drained of all life due to mismanagement, its dead husk is then abandoned as a grim tombstone of what was once heralded as fun, as the EA then scouts out new franchises to ensnare and devour, in its unending, ravenous need to feed its coffers]]. Woe betide any franchise absorbed by, or will be absorbed by EA.

Then, since EA holds the rights to these IPs now, its next-to-impossible for anyone else to pick-up their slack and try to revive them with new talent, [[X-COM|unlike what some other people did recently with another classic game]].

==The Corpses of Past Studios ==

In /tg/'s vidya gaem scene, EA has been responsible for the decline and death of some of our timeless classics and their creators, such as:

===Bullfrog Productions===
Possibly the most historically notable, as Bullfrog is the first example most people go to when discussing EA's shutdowns, although it's also relevant that Peter Molyneux was also involved.

/tg/ relevance: Dungeon Keeper 1&2 are usually held to be "recommended reading" for many different kinds of DMs (in particular, ones looking to do an Evil Party Campaign) and designers of certain kinds of board games, for subtly different reasons.

===Origin Studios===
Likely the second example of EA's meddling in successful series that people will go to. For /tg/ purposes, they only made two series of note: [[Ultima]], and Wing Commander.

====[[Ultima]]====
The [[Ultima]] series was one of the original CRPG series to explore complicated morality, and could likely be said to be the grand-daddy of the morality systems that plague today's games. Later games also had incredible depth and variety of content for early sandbox RPGs. At least until EA bought the series out for games 8 & 9, widely regarded as some of the worst pieces of shit to ever hit store shelves, and proceeded to bomb the series' (already somewhat questionable) quality through the molten core of the earth. Bugs, glitches, impossible controls, and seeing as this was before the internet patches would have to be picked up in floppy disk form from the local games store, led to a remarkably unpleasant experience, and many fans either hated it, or just dropped the series entirely.

====Wing Commander====
Wing Commander is only /tg/ relevant in that it provides a good example of a space shooter series. For our purposes, it suffices to say that when the genre died out, so did the series. (It's a bit more complicated than that, but it suffices for our purposes.)

===[[Bioware]]===
There's an entire article devoted to it, but in a nutshell:

====Dragon Age====
Dragon Age: Origins was hailed as a modern classic after having been teased for several years leading up to its release. Players could choose one of three classic races (Human, Elf and Dwarf) to play as and each had several possible game starts. The character is recruited into the semi-secretive warrior organization called the Gray Wardens and is tasked with both stopping a darkspawn monster invasion but also to deal with a civil war that is breaking out in the kingdom the game takes place in by forging alliances with various factions.

Dragon Age 2, however, is widely considered to be utter tripe thanks to EA giving a very small development window forcing the developers to make only a few character and NPC models and even fewer maps that had to be reused time and time again, as well as demanding Bioware do cross-promotion material with the game for other games, notably Mass Effect 2. The player character is a refugee who goes on to become one of (if not ''the'') most influential person in the city of Kirkwall. This, however, limited the character choices to only being Human but your character was fully voiced at least.

Their third game, DA: Inquisition, was notably better if only because of how far the series had fallen with it's previous entry. It is a notable upgrade from 2 and finally gave players a chance to play the strange Qunari race and gave players the chance to, once again, design a character of their own making like in DA: Origins. The player character starts off as a prisoner after surviving a demon nuke explosion and due to a strange and arcane mark they get on them from said explosion they are quickly named head of the newly reinstated Inquisition and must run around the world stopping darkspawn and dumbasses from killing everyone. [[Skub|Has either a decent ending or a completely stupid ending depending on how one views the series as a whole.]]

====Mass Effect====
Made the first game, which was touted as video gaming's answer to Star Wars (in that it was a hyped up reskinning of an older star wars game). Then made the second installment, which many remember the best in the franchise.

The third game is where things went downhill, due to EA [[meme|assuming direct control]] over Bioware's development in the game, taking away more creative control from them (in fact the writers of the last two games quit), and shifting it away from a narrative, to a more action-y standpoint, placing less attention to story and more on gunplay (and the gunplay is good, the best in the trilogy, but that can't save a game that was known for its storytelling, than shooting mechanics). This all culminated to a lackluster ending that never really satisfied fans, even with the remade ending due to pressure.

Also there was a spin-off called Andromeda, which had been given to a smaller and under-equipped studio while the main Bioware studio was busy churning out Anthem, which tanked so badly thanks to a myriad of issues, that it's single-handedly responsible for sinking the franchise altogether and destroying what trust customers had in Bioware.

====Anthem====
In which the gutted, burnt out husk of a company that made its name with character-focused RPGs and storytelling was instead pushed to make a dull-as-dishwater, generic looter-shooter, where the shooting was compromised by bad design, the looting was compromised by shitty monetization, and the entire experience was a massive waste of time, money, and worker blood, which catastrophically failed its corporate taskmasters. Anthem was viewed as Bioware's last hope for a comeback, but sadly, it fell apart like so many other EA titles before it. But hey, the Javelins look cool at least.

===Westwood Studios===

To be fair, EA is not 100% to blame for Westwood's implosion. After scoring some knockout hits with the original Command & Conquer and its prequel, C&C: Red Alert, Westwood made the same mistake with its next project, C&C: Tiberian Sun, that was made with Duke Nukem forever: they put someone in charge (Erik Yeo) with way too many idea for things that he wanted to do, all of which had fuck-all to do with each other, and no idea what he wanted the finished game to be like. This led to Tiberian Sun going massively over-budget and behind schedule as manpower was wasted on all kinds of voxel bullshit and physics bullshit that ended up not even getting used. Late in the product's development cycle, this left Westwood begging for bus money from anyone who was willing to make a deal, so EA swooped in, bought Westwood, fired Yeo, and told whoever was left that they had four minutes to get their fucking shit together and get the game out the door. The good news is, this prevented Tiberian Sun from suffering the same fate as Duke Nukem Forever. It succeeded in keeping interest in the C&C franchise alive, and in generating enough profit to fund the next C&C game. The bad news is, Tiberian Sun was pushed out the door as a buggy, unbalanced, unfinished mess, allowing Starcraft to dominate the RTS scene for <s>the next twenty years</s> ''fucking ever''. The next game, Red Alert 2, copied a lot of code from Tiberian Sun, but fixed most of the bugs and made major interface improvements, allowing an actually pretty decent game to be released in a decent amount of time and make everyone a fuckton of money.

Still on a roll, the Tiberian Wars, made by EA was the zenith of the Tiberian timeline and not just had overwhelmingly positive reviews, but decent sales, fit for many computers and still with awesome mechanics and graphics. Now what would a decent, smart, business-savvy company do with an open-ending cliffhanger plot of the game? Make an even better game with next generation graphic card compatibility and culminate Kane's 20000 year crusade?

Fuck you no, EA failed to decide on what kind of game the fourth one would be ''even as they made it'', resulting in an abortion of some mobile strategy game with pre-set units fit for soyboy hipster faggots' tablets. NOT EVEN BOTHERING with background pictures, they took half-baked movie clips with all actors...acting in a black white room like some soap opera rejects from 90's or some cheap porn movie. Game mechanics were literally a total ripoff of Warcraft 3 unit damage types and armors, built from mobile bases with preset headcount values reminiscent of 2000's Flash games. Needless to say, the game completely ended the Tiberium franchise.

Just recently in 2018, EA decided to parade its dead corpse like a [[Bretonnia]]n Grail Reliquae by releasing a mobile spin off called "Command and Conquer: Rivals". As if killing the franchise wasn't enough, they had to taunt its fans like they acknowledge their own infamy. It's likely this is an IP protection act, if they don't do something with it a long enough time, the C&C IP goes to market and they lose it. So they didn't just kill C&C and lay it to rest, [[God-Emperor of Mankind|but instead exhumed it and are jealously guarding the corpse for what few pennies they can milk from it, before the body once again collapses due to their incompetence]]. Another hilarious note about the existence of Rivals is that EA legitimately argued that "Gamers don't know what they want", when asked about it; the Lion, the Witch, and the audacity of this bitch. We'd expand further of why this is bullshit, but their track-record speaks for itself about their knowledge in making a good RTS game, sufficient to say they dared promote this game as an e-sport with "competitive gaming", all while promoting P2W mechanics where you get stronger units the more money you shell out, yes, that's EA's logic for you. However, EA may have finally learned their lesson in June of 2020 with the release of "Command and Conquer: Remastered Collection" which is a remaster of Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert, along with their expansions, and it is [[Awesome]]!

===Maxis Software===
Back in the day, Maxis released at least a couple of interestingly weird titles every few years (SimCity, SimEarth, and SimAnt for example, as well as some licensed titles such as SimTower and SimIsle). Although SimCity was generally regarded as their flagship product, the real moneymaker was The Sims, a dollhouse life simulator game that catered directly to facebook addicted housewives. At its peak The Sims could push expansion packs with nothing but new furniture and wallpaper colors for more than what your typical steam game can get away with calling full price.

The proceeds of this were poured into Spore, a big-budgeted game that was less successful then EA anticipated. Partly this was due to an overly paranoid DRM which resulted in the game becoming one of the most pirated games ever, but mostly it had to do with the game not being very good. While Will Wright had set out with the goal of "evolving" your species over multiple epochs, in practice this turned out to be just a collection of minigames strung together that resulted in a very jarring and unsatisfying gameplay experience that just got in the way of the game's best elements of 3D design.

After Spore, Maxis attempted to return to form with SimCity 2013. However, they learned nothing from the DRM experience with Spore and went so far as to require the game to always be online. In addition, each successive iteration of SimCity had gradually gotten more complex with more features, and 2013 cut many features out and shrunk the maps. Maxis would insist the always on functionality was required but hackers would eventually reverse engineer the game and prove otherwise, leading the studio to release an offline mode update.

If you're wondering what this has to do with teegee, SimCity is a model for [https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/170243/games-simcity many different board games] and had a licensed collectible card game, and the early Maxis non-Sims Sim-games are good sources for anybody looking into game design from a Simulationist perspective. SimCity 2000 in particular was highly regarded for its underlying conway's-game-of-life logic which the later installments neglected.

===[[Warhammer Online]]===
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvqwom74xZg This sums it up pretty well.]

===EA Redwood Shoes / Visceral===

Most notable for the Dead Space series and being killed by Star Wars Battlefront II (2017), what you should know them for (back when they were Redwood) is LotR: The Third Age (a game about being a party who were ''not'' the Fellowship while still having the same adventure), and Future Cops: LAPD (Which was awesome, but was never further developed as EA didn't let their studios make anything that wasn't a movie tie in, or a licensed property from 1998 - 2008)

==So, what's the direct relevance to /tg/?==

Not much directly, but if you're interested in the business end of tabletop gaming (i.e. why individual game lines or publishers succeed or fail), the EA graveyard is quite edifying to anybody interested in just about any badly run entertainment business (a set to which [[TSR]], [[Games Workshop]], [[FASA]], and [[Wizards of the Coast]] '''arguably''' all belong or belonged), for two simple reasons: (1) You can learn more from a failure than a success, and nobody's failed their fans in more ways than EA, and (2) EA makes a good reference bar for "Asshole" "Evil" and/or "Stupid", depending on context.

To provide an example of the latter: Games Workshop has probably only cleared the "Stupid" bar compared to EA; they've been fairly good about not sitting on the IP itself ([[Shadow War: Armageddon|though various games within said IP may vary]]), and while their product is overpriced, GW's failings have been sufficiently consistent with releases to not quite qualify as "Evil" or "Assholish". Even at their worst, they've never sunk to the lows EA so readily sinks to just to milk out a little more money from the customer in the form of randomized lootboxes and digital transactions needed to play a game properly. More to the point, GW actually learned from their mistakes and went a lot more forward-facing with community interaction and a much more consistent release schedule by 2017-18.

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Monstergirls

2021-02-01T20:19:51Z

2603:7080:A203:1900:81B2:EADC:D517:74C: /* Interspecies Reviewers */

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{{topquote|Why are monstergirls better than a [[No Girls on the Internet|real woman]]?"<br>"Because the monster is on the outside.|Exchange posted on [[8chan|/monster/]]}}

==[[Meme|I'm 12 and What Is This?]]==
'''{{BLAM|(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)}}'''

==I'm Now 18 and Always Was and What Is This?==
[[File:FurryVsMonstergirl.png|thumb|right|400px|Anon explains the differences between furries and monstergirls.]]
Alright, you've probably heard of the [[Furry]] fetish - for all the absolute hate it gets on /tg/, it gets mentioned around here enough. Monstergirls aren't furries - /tg/ is '''very''' adamant about this, and if there's one thing more likely to get you ballbusted than bringing up furries, it's trying to argue about the difference/lack thereof between the two. Monstergirls are where [[/tg/]] and [[/d/]] have their greatest overlap - sexy, decidedly not-human, girls who happen to be among the things everyone on /tg/ loves the most. To put it simply, were [[Rule 34]] and a [[Dungeons and Dragons]] Monster Manual to have [[/d/|hardcore ball-busting sex]], monstergirls would be the product of their sweaty lust, and both parents would look upon their children with pride.

In essence: Take a monster and add bits of female human anatomy until you have something left that's fairly sexy. Then, for good measure, add a bit of behavioral changes similar to the creature before. The most common form of this, especially from [[Weeaboo]] artists, is basically a human girl with tails, ears, inhuman limbs, spikes, [[Abyssal Merfolk|tentacles]], or whatever; they often ending up looking like cosplay creations if not handled well. Ironically, more monstrous-looking monstergirls (lizardgirls with scaled human faces, for example) are just as likely to be blasted as being "furry scum" as they are to be defended by fa/tg/uys. 'Better' yet, animal monstergirls like centaurs, minotaurs and harpies suffer the most from the constant quarreling over where the line between monstergirl and female not-quite-so-furry lies, but /tg/ is generally willing to ignore the furriness of anything an actual furry would happily call a "20% or less furry".

The Japanese like to use the term "Kemonomimi" to describe this kind of girl, which literally translates as "animal ears". Most otherwise animalistic monsters fall under this category by giving them more human features than their original versions (i.e. harpies, minotaurs, sometimes sphinxes, etc). [[Gnoll]]s and [[kobold]]s occupy an uncertain place in particular, since even most MG fans can't really picture them without a bestial-looking face... except this is totally not the case. Go to ANY furry board, especially Fchan, and you will find long arguments about how monstergirls ARE furries. And oddly, lot of furries do not want this to be so, yet others insist on it.

In /tg/'s eyes, the difference is this: There's anthropomorphic fans; people who dig humans with animal features. This is common and HARMLESS, and these people can be found in dozens of different boards. Hell, there's even [[Touhou]]s with Cat Ears.
:''"Girls with cat ears are so cute!"
This is normal, and there's nothing wrong with this.

Then there's [[Furry|furries]] who have a sexual fetish for people-shaped animals, or who want to be people-shaped animals '''AND''' dress up as animals. These people are hated but they're usually not so ba- {{BLAM|<nowiki>*BLAM*</nowiki> Showing one atom of ''sympathy'' is '''HERESY!'''}}
:<s>''"Oh god, [[Chakat]]s are totally hot, I'd do them so hard"</s>
::{{BLAM|HERMAPHRODITE ALIEN FURRY EROTICA? {{BLAM}} {{BLAM}} Stevens? Yes, si- {{BLAM}} [[Extra Heresy|'''TRIPLE HERESY!''']]}}
As you can see from our friend the [[Commissar]], this is [[Heresy]] to be shunned.

Please, they are just a bunch of fu{{BLAM}} anyone who try to compare monstergirls with furries or otherwise using monstergirls to cover for furries, please contact the [[Inquisition]] as soon as possible.

A wide variety of monstergirls exist - a comprehensive list may be impossible, but some of the most common ones seen on /d/ and /tg/ alike are below:
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* [[Merfolk]]
* [[Tanar'ri|Demon]]/[[Baatezu|Devil]] Girls
* [[Daemonette]]s
* [[Naga]]s/[[Lamia]]s/[[Marilith]]s
* [[Centaurs]]
* [[Minotaur]]s
* [[Trollbloods]] - Delicious blueberry (beef)cake.
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* [[Medusa]]e - ''Keep that blindfold on tight!''
* [[Orc]]s
* [[Troll]]s
* [[Cyclops|Cyclopes]]
* [[Sphinx]]es
* [[Slime]]/Goo Girls
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* [[Elemental]] Girls - <br>Fire girls never get to cuddle T_T<br>([[/d/|AND THEN WE INVENTED FIREPROOF SUITS]])
* [[Warforged]]
* [[Succubus|Succubi]]
* [[Franken Fran|Undead Girls]]
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* Shapeshifters
* [[Scylla]]s
* [[Harpy|Harpies]]
* [[Space Harpies]]
* [[Tau]] - aka: ''Delicious blueberry pie''.
* [[Drider]] - Blessing or curse, baby, it's all the same to me.
* [[Goblins]]
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|}

Suffice to say, there's ten shitloads. Monstergirls are one of the few things /tg/ will defend to the death - getting between a fa/tg/uy and his monstergirls will result in [[RAGE|fa/tg/uy rage]] that will give an Angry Marine pause. Note that there are other, decidedly-not-monstergirls that are seen in these threads too - elves aren't exactly Monstergirls and get fucked (over) [[Elf subraces|way too much]] - but they're still allowed, as are miscellaneous [[catgirl]]s, [[kitsune]]s, etc, in spite of the obvious [[Weeaboo]]. There's also a few more monstrous girls, such as [[Thri-Kreen]] or [[Illithid|Mindflayers]], thrown in the mix for both hilarity and [[Awesome|lulz]]. So if you happen upon some desert insect women in a Monstergirl thread? [[Thri-Kreen Erotica|Don't be afraid]] -- it's all good. [[Meme|Make a grapple check if you know what I mean]]. Btw, if you are a ca/tg/irl and are upset about the absence of monsterboys on this site, please note that you are free to just add them yourself.

==So, what's the difference between Furries and Monstergirls?==

This is a matter of some debate; we have a subsection of our [[Furry#Monstergirls_vs._Furries|Furry article dedicated to this]], but two of the main points are:
#Supercreepy (and actually, literally, DSM-5 diagnostically insane) furry fans are the problem the internet has with the fandom, to the point that even the worst monstergirl fans could manage pales in comparison.
#Monstergirls are a more "ordinary" (if porn-heavy) internet fandom, while Furrydom overlaps with being a "lifestyle", thus throwing any fucked shit associated with them into greater focus.

==What about Monsterboys?==
"Monsterboys" is a recognized term, if less famous, that serves to refer to '''male''' monsters who are given a similar "sexy revamp" to the females. Ironically, whilst monsterboys are fairly common in non-/tg/ media - the genre of "supernatural romance" is pretty much '''built''' around sexy male [[vampire]]s (and more rarely [[werewolf|werewolves]] or other mostly human monsters) seducing human women - they are generally not well liked by monstergirls fans. This is because A: most of the Anime monstergirl fans are straight men and thus couldn't care less about male versions, and B: monsterboys are often seen as a "challenge" or an "interference" to most. Whether this is immaturity of accepting there are other men competing for females or the wish to be left alone in our escapism to dream world, [[Skub|it's best not to discuss here]]. This is not to say that there aren't monsterboy artworks out there: some male consumers are bisexual or gay, and there is a small fandom of male yokai loving straight/bi women out there. But obviously, the monsterboy fandom is smaller than its monstergirl counterpart.

As a result, with monstergirls, either there is an extreme sexual dimorphism going on, where the females look like exotic but sexy humanoids and the males are ugly deformed brutes (something that [[Oglaf]] pokes fun of in one famous comic), or the monstergirls are just presented as an exclusively female race that either is totally dependent on human men to breed or has some way of breeding without humans (simply acknowledging the existence of males of a given monsterperson species without showing them naked is surprisingly rare).

The /monster/ board on [[8chan]] absolutely '''''despises''''' monsterboys, demanding that they be shunted off into their own remote splinter-board - /chaos/ - to avoid "contaminating" their precious waifus (yeah, sometimes we're almost as bad as [[furries]] here).

==Official Tabletop Games==
Despite their appeal to the fans of /tg/, monstergirls rarely get any sort of serious shake-down in actual tabletop games. Unfortunately, it's far too easy for such a setting to get derided as a [[magical realm]] (though not without reason) ,so many DMs are afraid to work homebrew settings featuring them, and official settings don't want the "overly sexualised" stigma.

In [[Dungeons & Dragons]], the closest one usually gets to any sort of monstergirl content is in the form of elves. Maybe because of their connection to [[The Lord of the Rings]], elf/human romances have a legitimacy that many other races lack. Demihumans and monstrous humanoids have, traditionally, been portrayed as very unappealing to human semblances; [[goblin]]s and [[orc]]s as wrinkled, warty, big-nosed and snaggle-toothed horrors, [[dwarf]] women as so heavy-faced and hairy that they're indistinguishable from their menfolk, she-[[gnome]]s as prematurely aged crones, [[halfling]]s as fat midgets, and so on. When they are beautiful, such as in the case of the [[succubus]] and the [[lamia]], they're usually described as pure evil, shattering men's minds for abusive sexual pleasure before sucking the life out of them or devouring their flesh. However... as time has passed on, and artists have improved, D&D artwork has slowly been sliding more towards a monstergirl-friendly interpretation. The days of hideously ugly [[demihuman]] women and irredeemably evil monstrous humanoids are dying, leaving more attractive forms and broader possibilities for racial relations than "axe to the head!" in their wake.

[[Pathfinder]], meanwhile, can't seem to make its mind up on the subject. It has a surprising array of attractive monstrous females, even a few monstergirl races; the [[Girtablilu]], a race of ruin-guarding scorpion-taurs, has a very hot female as its iconic bestiary artwork depiction, whilst the [[Thriae]] are a race of sexy bee-girls who explicitly need human men to serve as consorts for their queens and even the sterile non-queens often take human lovers. However, officially, these races tend to be given traits that make mating with them unappealing at best; the ironclad cultural standard amongst [[harpy]] flocks that they must eat the fathers of their children, [[thriae]] keeping their consorts as slaves until they're too old/weak to perform and then euthanizing & cannibalizing them, and so on. But in their adventure paths, they also sometimes throw bones at the fans of monstergirls; their 4th adventure path, "Legacy of Fire", has a non-cannibalistic [[harpy]] as a potential love interest; their 12th one, "Reign of Winter", has a polymorphed [[Winter Wolf]] female named Greta as another potential monstrous love interest; and ''Wrath of the Righteous'' has a ascending-[[succubus]] NPC whose road to redemption is explicitly easier if some kind PC is giving her some lovin'.

==Living With Monstergirl series==
Whenever a monstergirl thread starts, someone will inevitably start posting the "Living With _____" aka "My Life With _____" comics. These are one-page cute erotic stories of a man who has a monstergirl waifu. The author assures us (in an interview vignette) it's not the same guy two-timing these girls, but actually eight identical brothers who each happened to fall in love with a different monstergirl. The brothers sometimes meet one another (and their spouses) mid-comic.

The ones that have been seen/translated are:
* Living with [[Drider|Arachne]] & Living with [[Drider|Arachne]] 2
* Living with [[Merfolk|Mermaid]] & Living with [[Merfolk|Mermaid]] 2
* Living with [[Dullahan]] & Living with [[Dullahan]] 2 (Irish for "headless knight psychopomp")
* Living with [[Slime]] & Living with [[Slime]] 2
* Living with [[Harpy]] & Living with [[Harpy]] 2
* Living with [[Lamia]] & Living with [[Lamia]] 2
* Living with [[Minotaur]]
* Living with [[Centaur]] & Living with [[Centaur]] 2

For those of us who love this kind of thing, the original artist Inui Takemaru (aka Okayado, aka Crabman) has an ongoing monthly [[manga]] based loosely on this series. It's been tamed-down to ecchi for the most part -- you'll see tits at its most adult moments -- but the art style and writing is pretty much what it was back in his old stuff. Somehow it got turned into a harem manga, but that's cool and all. <s>It's not like they're going to do a story arc about the protagonist having to choose a girl.</s> As of now Lamia, Harpy, Centaur, Slime, Mermaid, Arachne, and Dullahan girls have joined the harem/happy family, but plenty others have made appearances, including [[Zombie]], [[Ogre]], [[Cyclops]] and [[Mimic]] girls in a paramilitary squad, a cowgirl, sheepgirl, and two [[wat|cotton girls]] out on a farm, a dryad, a kitsune, a scylla, a hallucinogenic mushroom girl that makes you see in JRPG-vision, and many ''many'' more.

It's going under the title '''Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou''' (''[[Life With Monstergirls|Daily Life with Monstergirls]]'') and is being scanned and translated as it's released. Not securing yourself a copy is considered treason. [[Paranoia|Treason is punishable by death.]] There are now officially translated print versions as well, for <s>purchase</s>plunder wherever <s>monstergirls</s> manga are sold. The official manga has sold so well that it [[awesome|always debuts at number 1 on the NYT best-sellers list]], and at one point was so popular it had a literary critic predicting [[wat|the return of printed porn]]. The translations are punnier in the official version, so [[weeaboo|truly invested fans]] may want to consider reading both the scanlated and official versions.

An anime for this series aired in 2015, with OVAs and sequel teasing. Buy tissues and hand lotion shares now.

As a side note, although the original one-shot comics and the ongoing print manga both use the same template ("X no Iru Nichijou" and "Monster Musume no Iru Nichijou", respectively) for their Moonspeak titles, the generally accepted English titles are "Living With Monstergirl"/"Living With X" for the originals and "Daily Life with Monstergirl(s)" for the current manga.

==The Monster Girl Encyclopedia==
This is the setting that provides a lot of the art in the gallery below, and it's one of the most well-known settings on /tg/ that isn't Monster Musume above. A guy named Kenkou Cross is writing and illustrating a [[NSFW]] encyclopedia on a world where all the monsters have been converted into hybrids between their old forms and [[Hot Chicks]]. Basically, they are all lustful and want to rape and/or marry whatever men they see (mostly the former).

The setting is quite notorious on /tg/. Although KC gets a lot of credit for being one of the oldest and most prolific "devoted to publishing monstergirls arts/setting" artists (Felarya is technically older but much, ''much'' more niche, and so less popular), he also gets a lot of flak. Why? Well, for starters, the big problem is that his setting design attracts an ''assload'' of roasting. It is scarily simple to read the many complaints listed for [[Chakat|a certain pile of festering failure]] and substitute in the demonic race and its leader from this one.

For more details, read the [[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]] page.

==Monster Girl Quest==
[[File:MGQWhy.png|thumb|250px|Being gang-raped to death by a group of sentient zombie monsters is kind of one of the tamer aspects of this game. Believe it or not, more extreme things happen.]]
For those of you who prefer your Japanese content in [[video games|a more interactive medium]], this might just be the game for you. Go on a quest, slay monsters who are also girls, before they slay you. And by slay you, we mean milked to death or raped and then '''[[vore|full-on eaten]]''' upon defeat. The game has a surprising amount of work put into the story, and some very self-aware (and debatably good) jokes that take shots at its own genre, making it a well known and well-liked game amongst a special brand of /d/eviant.

The basic plot of the game is simple; you are a wanna-be hero sworn to the goddess Illias, who has made the destruction of all monstergirls (which are the only kinds of monsters that exist in this setting) her holy dogma. However, you believe that peace between monstergirls and humanity is possible, and want to fight for this. Much, much rape of your character ensues.

In fact, the rape-happy nature of the monstergirls is literally justified by the presence of Illias and her Church: monstergirls can only reproduce with human mates, and many species in fact require human semen as nutrition. Thusly, Illias' dogma of xenophobia drives the resident monstergirls to extreme measures; as far as each monstergirl is concerned, when she meets a Hero (read: Church-backed xenophobic murderhobo) like your character, she's in a battle to the death, whilst at the same time being a starving woman presented with a banquet AND a baby-crazy MILF-to-be given a potential sperm-donor. Thus, just about every monstergirl you encounter ''will'' molest you violently to the best of their abilities, even if they won't kill you.

And best believe they'll kill you. See, unlike MGE above, the [[grimdark]] in this game's setting was 100% the author's intention, and therefore much more visible upfront.

In Monster Girl Quest, you are warned from the start that most monster-girls will casually enslave, kill or eat humans after sex, and this is ''not'' anti-xenophile propaganda like it is in the MGE. As stated above, death or devouring are the most common outcomes if you lose. Even fan-favorite character, your PC's partner Alice, will casually swallow your character whole and digest him alive if you tick her off, and many monstergirls you encounter casually reminisce about their latest prey - one of them, Red Ooze, happily kills and eats the husband of a worried harpy woman desperately asking about her mate in the village. Per typical cringy Karma Houdini JRPG Custom, the murderous monstergirl is merely wounded and retreats.

This blatant murdersex thing is widely regarded as the '''dumbest''' element in the series, and often called a genuine blight on an otherwise really well-written story (for the given value of "well-written" were operating on). It's bad enough that the monstergirls are shown to eat male opponents after triumphing in legitimate life-or-death situations, because that just proves the Church correct when they say that monstergirls are dangerous monsters that must be killed to protect humanity, but it gets even worse when monstergirls will murderrape or vore guys they ''wrongfully assumed'' were hostile... or, worse still, rape-to-death or eat '''guys who legitimately wanted to be their lovers'''. The game tries desperately to justify this, but most fans admit it does a really fucking bad job of it.

For more information, see: [[Mon Musu Quest!]]

==Felarya==
Felarya is an... odd setting. One of the older fleshed out monstergirls settings, Felarya is perhaps the most loved-yet-hated of such settings to appear on /tg/, and in fact is usually driven off of /tg/ when it shows up, in comparison to [[Mon Musu Quest!]] Why is that? Well, every so often, you see something that is created with the root of appealing to a certain fetish. And Felarya is one of those settings. Now, this is nothing new; [[Monstergirl Encyclopedia]] is basically built out of its authors obsession with femdom, corruption and [[loli]]s. But Felarya is built around a much more... controversial branch of fetish fuel.

In a nutshell: Felarya is a [[vore]] world, built around a combination of Monstergirls, [[Giant]]ess, and Soft Vore. Or, in other words, the setting is full of oversized monstergirls who think it's perfectly reasonable, when hungry, to find a smaller humanoid, swallow it whole, and then giggle as they feel it digest alive in their stomach. There's a handwave about Felarya being some dimensional dumping ground, a lost [[demiplane]] which randomly opens portals to other locales throughout the [[multiverse]] to allow creatures to stumble into its deadly environs - or, more rarely, make raids outside of it.

Oh, and the setting is ''literally'' built to support and favor the local predators, complete with not only an array of super-powered [[Mary Sue]] OCs, but canonical [[Lady of Pain]]-esque uberdeities who will show up and curbstomp any fledgling nations or super-powered individuals who try to challenge the status quo and break the cycle of humans being eaten by giant monstergirls.

Yeah... it's kind of a shithole of a setting. The only bright side is that this setting is a prime example of [[Meme|there always being a bigger fish]]. The predators that eat humans? They're something else's dinner too. [[Grimdark|In fact, nearly everything in this setting is some sort of dangerous huge-boobed monstergirl that eats some other sentient creature for lunch.]]

TL;DR: It's the [[Monster Girl Encyclopedia]] if you replaced the corruption with vore.

If that description put you off, there's probably not much for you there. The giant boobs get disturbing quick if you aren't into the concept of unrelenting lethal vore.

==What, no mentioning the Bard's Adventures?==
An artist named Frederik K. T. Andersson does a lot of interesting monstergirl (and monsterboy) artwork, sometimes in the form of comics. One of his recurring characters is a highly charismatic, lecherous fool of a bard who runs around like an animal in heat, sleeping with (and usually impregnating) every monstergirl he meets, much to the rage of his (implicitly jealous) female elf teammate. Perhaps his greatest achievement(?) was siring a human/'''rock''' hybrid. Not with a golem or earth elemental. Just, a rock. Even '''he''' wasn't sure how that had worked.

Andersson used to be on a site called ''Elfwood'', but sadly that site went under in the 2010s. [https://www.deviantart.com/derangedmeowmeow So he moved to Deviantart] under the username "DerangedMeowMeow" instead.

Andersson is also famous for starting (but never finishing) "Pawn", a webcomic about a xenophiliac lesbian sorceress who ventures deep into a long-abandoned dungeon in order to use her status as an unkissed virgin to free the sexy giant demon princess bound there... by forcibly binding her into her service so she can ultimately turn her into her sextoy. Yeah, it's a little bit romantic and a little bit fucked up.

==Monster Girls on Tour==
A humor comic with a cast composed entirely of monstergirls (and monsterboys); the protagonist is a Salamander warrior. [http://kukuruyo.com/comic/0-monster-girls-on-tour-cover/ The website] also has a lot of monstergirl artwork.

==Monster Harem Feverish Absolute Passion!==
[http://mhfap.com/ Monster Harem Feverish Absolute Passion!] is a monstergirls webcomic with a slight difference. This takes place in a world where humans and monstergirls once lived side by side. And monstergirls were slaves to men, because mankind compelled their lustful obedience through the power of DICK. But one powerful she-demon grew sick of her people being slaves to humanity. So she managed to whip them into a rebellion, destroying humanity utterly and creating a paradise for monstergirl lesbians - complete with unlocking the ability for monstergirls to knock each other up through the power of love/lust-fueled yuri sex. But the craving for DICK remains locked in the souls of monstergirls everywhere, and though she does her best to scour the world of remaining remnants of the Age of Man, there is a thriving black market for man-on-monstergirl pornographic relics.

Enter our heroine, Tali ([[Bioware|not that Tali]]); a hentai-hunting [[harpy]] who desperately wants to find a girlfriend. Or a dildo. Or just some way of being able to get off reliably, because feather-fingers are a fucking pain to try and schlick with. To her amazement, she unearths a crashed stasis capsule containing our hero... who goes unnamed in a shout-out to the famous gag of the protagonist of Daily Life with Monstergirls. He is the last human - and, we later learn, an attempt by humanity to create a last-ditch saviour for their species, sexually augmented and charged with defeating the Monster Queen in order to end her magical spell that keeps human men from being born, and then begin singlehandedly impregnating the world with a new generation of men.

The art is... well, it's an acquired taste, as is the humor, but if you want a monstergirls webcomic where the guy actually '''fucks''' his harem, this'll cover you.

==Interspecies Reviewers==
Otherwise known as, "Controversy: The Anime", Interspecies Reviewers is an anime/manga series with a simple premise: A human, an elf, an angel, and a couple of other dudes go to monstergirl brothels to write reviews on how good the sex was. The series is known for its surprisingly robust worldbuilding in a sea of worlds where when the question of, "why is X like Y?" comes up, the answer is usually, "because it gets the creator(s) dick(s) hard." Obviously, as a rather lewd series, there are some spots where that is still true, but more often than not, actual thought was put into the world instead of jerking off through the entire creation process. Different races have their own views on what is considered appealing (cyclopses value the size of their mate's eyeballs over anything else), and there are topics that are expressly taboo in their society (making a simulacrum of a person, and then fucking said simulacra is [[/d/| not something you should admit in polite company.]]) For the aspiring [[/d/M]] who wants to make a more balanced monstergirl world for your players to run around in, there's hardly a better starting point to get the noggin joggin.

As for the Controversy... long story short, in a twist of fate, the anime was actually made to be even raunchier than the manga series. Whereas the manga barely gets a couple of nipple slips in, the anime goes so far as to have full-on penetration shown onscreen. Funimation bought the rights to a dub, got two episodes completed, and it took them until the third episode to realize that there was no amount of censoring they could do to make this airable. Having realized that they were dubbing what was effectively a hentai sitcom, Funimation shut it all down, with several Japanese stations following suit. The entire debacle provides an interesting insight into what happens when dubs get made in this industry. It's also just fun to imagine a bunch of business suits getting flustered over a board meeting.

==TOUCH FLUFFY TAIL==
[http://touchfluffytail.org We have an entire website] for monstergirls purely dedicated to written and drawn art.

The spicier tales from several artists can also be found in Literotica, often on both sites.

==Oh Dear God, There's More?==
Hell yeah, there's more. Besides lurking down the rabbit hole of [[/d/]] and [[/tg/|/d/-lite]] for singular artists and old one-off doujinshi, Daily Life with Monstergirls turned monstergirls from an undercurrent to an industry trend. There's more monstergirl works out there now than ever before, all with varying levels of lewdness. If you want in on the action, go read the artist lists on the back of the ''I Heart Monster Girls'' collaboration books, or just poke around the "related books" banners on your web-based literature purveyor of choice. Literotica's NonHuman section has received quite a bit of monstergirl stories.

==See Also==
* [[Waifu]]
* [[Alistair's Cures and Remedies]], written in response to one of the 1d100 situation-generating tables.
* [[Abhuman]]s from Warhammer 40K, specifically Felinids
* [[:Category:Monstergirls]] for more in-depth articles
* [[Daemonette]]
* [[Harem guy's tales]]
* [[Harem Knights]]
* [[Harkness Test]], a very important metric in Monstergirl discussions.
* [[Cross Species Dating Advice]]
* [http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=monstergirl sup/tg/ archived threads] tagged with 'monstergirl'
* [[Saharduin]]
* [[Jim]]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88 The unofficial themesong] for '''Monster Girl Quest''' (Monmusu Quest! Zenshou ~Makereba Youjo ni Okasareru~)
* [[Towergirls]]
* [[Divinity: Dragon Commander]]

==Gallery==
Hold on to your [[meme|robe and wizard hat!]]
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Image:monstergirl_manual_1.jpg|[[Derp|The 'Amazoness' is poorly named; Amazons are known for being all-female]]
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Image:monstergirl_manual_3.jpg
Image:monstergirl_manual_4.jpg
Image:monstergirl_manual_5.jpg
Image:Monster_Manual_rule63.jpg|This is not a checklist you perverts. '''Ignore him it totally is!!!'''
Image:Classic_succubus.jpg|old-school fapbait
Image:Laidbacknurglette.jpg|Demongirls aren't all succubi.
Image:Doing_it_Wrong.jpg|"Mother told me there'd be knights like this."
Image:Koboldette.jpg|The monstergirl conundrum; you need to get a huge amount of experience points to lay the [[dragon]], but the [[kobold]]s are fine too.
Image:Illithid_prostitute.gif|She'll blow your mind
Image:SalamanderFootjob.png|[[Rule 34|NO EXCEPTIONS]] YOU IDIOT
Image:Furry chart.jpg|The difference.
Image:Buggy chart.jpg|A more gradual chart.
Image:Harem Knight.jpg|The greatest monstergirl lover to have ever lived.
Image:Arachne.jpg|An average /tg/ anon in a monstergirl thread.
Image:Undead Waifu.jpg|It's necrophilia if they're not sapient. Otherwise, it's monstergirls.
Image:Monster U Girl.png|/co/ and /tg/ can usually find common ground in montergirl threads.
Image:Thri-keen fire.png
Image:Spider Comic.jpg|Not only a great waifu, but overpowered as fuck on the tabletop!
Image:Doujinvespid.jpg|Even [[Vespid]] are not immune.
Image:DND 4e Cheesecake.jpg|Neither [[Tiefling]] nor [[Dragonborn]] is unappealing to the [[/d/|right minds]].
Image:Rule63 Doomgirl and Revenants.jpg|Not even [[Doom]] is safe from monstergirls.
Image:Mantisgirl 1.jpg|That mix of familiar, exotic, allure and threat is what makes monstergirls so appealing.
Image:Tauric Mantis Girl.jpg|Which is why even mantis-girls are a thing.
Image:Goblin Waitress.jpg|[[Shortstack]] greenskinned waitresses... The MG fan's argument for civilizing [[goblin]]s.
Image:Goblin Chieftain 2.jpg|Be honest, your party would [[Murderhobos|be much more likely to talk instead of fight]] if the [[goblin]] chieftain looked like this.
Image:Goblin Monk 2.png|Being [[shortstack|short, curvy 'n' cute]] in no way impedes her ability to kick your ass.
Image:High Society Goblin.jpg|Somehow, it's just so much easier for some fans to accept civilized versions of monsters when they look good.
Image:Cute Goblin Adventurer.jpg|Sexy or adorable, a monstergirl is a monstergirl.
Image:Marilith combat.jpg|Just because they look like hot women doesn't mean monstergirls can't be dangerous.
Image:FF9 Marilith.jpg|Videogames have more than their fair share of monstergirls.
Image:Chultian Lamia.png|The [[Yuan-ti]] Malison is D&D's attempt to do a legit [[lamia]].
Image:MGNaga.png|The line between [[monstergirl]] and [[furry]] can grow quite thin.
Image:Halfling Barwench 1.jpg|Monstergirls can be more subtle than you'd think; who looks twice at a curvy [[halfling]] waitress?
Image:Halfling Swashbuckler.jpg|Although a halfling in [[Female Fantasy Armor]] will get a bit more look.
Image:Tel-Amhothlan Female 2.png|Monstergirls are a true melting pot of races and species. For example, [[elf]] and [[orc]].
Image:Goblin and Gnome Bosom Buddies.png|[[Warcraft]] fans have been in love with sexy female nonhumans for a long time.
Image:Shy Minotaur.jpg|A [[cowgirl]] with a big club can still break your bones if you get too grabby.
Image:Catgirl Qipao.jpg|The humble [[catgirl]] is one of the most recognized monstergirl species.
Image:Disheveled Catgirl.jpeg|For reasons that don't really need explaining.
Image:Sphinx in Library.jpg|Hot librarians in a fantasy world can really be exotic.
Image:Red and Blue Oni Sisters.jpg|According to [[oni]] lore, actually pretty mythologically accurate.
Image:Monster Musume Ruka the Orc.png|When p'orc, green orc, and sexpot meet.
Image:Amazon Orc.jpg|When you think about it, [[amazon]]ian [[orc]]s really make a lot of sense.
Image:Half-Faerie Dragon 1.jpg|[[Pixie]]s are cute, [[dragon]]s can be cute, so why not put 'em together.
Image:Half-Faerie Dragon 2.jpg|Besides, when you take [[Faerie Dragon]] habits into account...
Image:Reindeer Faun.jpg|Never shall there be peace on /tg/ about the thin line between female [[beastfolk]] and monstergirl.
Image:Armless Egyptian Naga.jpg|When you got a cute human face and stonking huge tits, who cares that the rest of you is a snake?
Image:Wild Western Lamia.jpg|Well, they always say that saloon maids are like rattlesnakes but prettier...
Image:Cute Jiangshi 1.png|When a [[Jiangshi|Chinese Vampire]] crosses into Japanese territory, it's fair game to render cuter.
Image:Sexy Rust Monster.jpg|Even a [[Rust Monster]] isn't immune to the call of monstergirlification.
Image:Fem.jpg|Why slay the dragon when you can lay the dragon instead?
Image:Sexualyeti tzeentch daemonette.png|She's willing to do things other than reading with you.
File:Risque Catgirl.jpg|She wants to <s>play with you.</s> <s>spay</s> Bob Barker you.
</gallery>

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Mimic

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[[File:Mimic.jpg|300px|thumb|right|OH HELLO THERE!!!]]
The '''Mimic''' is a monster invented by [[Dungeons & Dragons]] and which has become famous throughout /tg/ and beyond. In contrast to its close kin, the [[Rust Monster]] and the [[owlbear]], the Mimic is not remembered for being a goofy idea, but for its sheer deadliness, which has seen it readily adapted in /v/ media.

The mimic has its roots in [[Old School Roleplaying]], most specifically the tendency for such games to boil down to a sadistic [[DM]] out for blood vs. a bunch of paranoid players. Something like a [[slime]] with a hard shell instead of a gelatinous membrane, the mimic is an amorphous predator that disguises itself as inanimate objects in order to lure potential meals close, then attack. Most iconically, they take the form of treasure chests, making them one of the most recognizable of [[Gotcha Monster|"gotcha!" monsters]].

To further the paranoia, the mimic has often been portrayed as having more advanced shapeshifting than that; [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] gives them the Greater Mimic (big enough to pretend to be entire rooms) and the Househunter Mimic (big enough to pretend to be ''whole houses''), third edition (and [[Pathfinder]]) include notes that mimics increase in size if advanced in hit die, whilst 4th edition states that in their adult forms, mimics can disguise themselves as human beings and walk amongst them to find prey.

What few except real grognards remember is that, originally, the AD&D mimic came in two forms; the regular mimic, whilst still a hungry predator, was quite intelligent. With a Int rating of 8-10, it was about as smart as your average human being, capable of speech, and more than willing to bargain in exchange for food (and not that fussy; enemy corpses, spare trail rations, they'll eat it). The more iconic modern depiction of the mimic comes from the variety AD&D labeled the Killer Mimic, identical in every way except that it was tougher and far stupider (Int 2-4, so only animal intelligence), meaning it just attacked whatever food it could find.

The connection between Househunter Mimics and the [[Gazebo]] meme remains unclear.

==Gallery==
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Mimic 1e.jpg|1e
Mimic MM 2e.png|2e
Mimic 3e.jpg|3e
Mimic 4e.png|4e
Mimic 5e.jpg|5e
Greater mimic.jpg|Greater Mimic
Househunter mimic.jpg|Househunter Mimic
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==Mimics as Monstergirls==
[[File:Mimikko.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The kind of Mimic few adventurers wouldn't mind running into... {{That Guy|because the alternative is being eaten, not because they are pedophiles}}]]
{{Monstergirls}}
Like many iconic D&D monsters, the Mimic has a Monstergirl version. Same general idea of a shapeshifting creature camouflaging as a treasure chest, except the 'inside' of the box looks like a pretty girl often depicted wearing the traditional Shinto shrine maiden uniform of white blouse and red skirt (due to the phonetic resemblance and obvious tongue-in-cheek of the second syllable of the English word "mimic" and the Japanese term "巫女" (miko) for shrine maiden) out to have some fun with any unwary adventurer she catches.

If the adventurer is lucky, that is. [[/d/|Let us just say that the Mimic is just as often used to sate much darker and disturbing fetishes and leave it at that...]]

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