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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;2A02:1811:5180:A200:F424:787A:437B:495C: This isn&amp;#039;t funny.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Comissar.png|frame|{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Awesome}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But sir -- !&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;*click* &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; If you will not serve in combat, then you will serve on the firing line!}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;-- but....your....zipper, sir... it&#039;s open...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;*click* &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Looking at my groin is Slaaneshi worship! &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;And that&#039;s good!&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;*click* &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; No! That&#039;s HERESY! Who let that damn cultist infiltrate the Commissariat?}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|{{BLAM|How many Guardsmen does it take to unload a gun? Lets find out shall we? &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}| A Commissar with a twitchy finger}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Topquote|I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep; I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion.|Alexander the Great}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Kerls, wollt ihr ewig leben? - Rascals, do you want to live eternally?|Frederick II of Prussia, to his reluctant-to-attack soldiers, battle of Kolin}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|Last one to die&#039;s an Eldar!|A Commissar}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|You&#039;re going back to the front lines and you may get shot and killed, but you&#039;re going to fight. If you don&#039;t, I&#039;ll stand you up against a wall and have a firing squad kill you on purpose. In fact, I ought to shoot you myself, you goddamned whimpering coward.|George S. Patton to a shell-shocked soldier in the hospital, noteable: This didn&#039;t work and he was made to apolgize, because he was in World War II, not Warhammer 40K.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the times long before these dark hours of the forty-first millennium, commanders of various Terran military entities and their successors in the colonial states of galactic expansionism remained in relative safety throughout the duration of various conflicts instead of charging the lines of their enemies with vitriol and froth issuing from their mouths in equal rabid measure. The instruments of the will of higher officers on the battlefield were men of inflexible will and intolerable zealotry, men greatly respected and feared by their underlings who inspired entire battalions with selfless example and were willing to sacrifice themselves for the success of their company and their empire. These times, while flawed, &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;were much better, more efficient and, perhaps, possessing greater sanity than this current era of strife.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Regardless, these times have long passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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In this current moment of the history of man, war has become a very different thing. Lasguns firing, explosives detonating, great beasts of unimaginable terror charging the trenches without fear, death of all sorts stalking behind every wisp of smoke... and that&#039;s just at the front. Behind every line of trembling conscripts is a man, sanctimonious, who fires not upon the hordes of the enemy, but his own troops.&lt;br /&gt;
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That man is the &#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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They get a cool [[hats|hat]], a [[Nazi]]-esque longcoat, a sword or power fist they seem all too happy to hit the enemy with and their iconic bolt pistol which they use to &amp;quot;boost&amp;quot; the morale of their men, although they sometimes trade it for las or plasma pistols (but seeing your buddy&#039;s head explode or melt down does indeed motivate you better than just seeing a laser beam go through it). In reality however they&#039;re nothing more than a couple of faggots who overcompensate for their lack of fighting skill by executing their men to look tou{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}. It&#039;s a well known fact that most of their morale enhancement (Unless they&#039;re [[Commissar Gaunt]], [[Ciaphas Cain]], or [[Commissar Yarrick]].) consists of being scary merciless bastards to rival the enemy merciless bast- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Commissar that lacks any guardsmen to execute and is in the proximity of any vehicle proceeds to clamber on the said vehicle and threaten the crew into charging the enemy so he can hit the enemy with his close combat weapon. Hilarity ensues depending on the kind of closest vehicle, close combat weapon and closest enemy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commissars also have a tendency to get killed suspiciously far from the front lines. Fucking [[Catachan]] heretics... And yet, I cannot help but applaud the Catachans! You&#039;ve got my support, Jungle Bo &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;BOOM!! FRAGGED!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Such a tragedy. Our platoon&#039;s dear Commissar tripped on his own grenade, while in the latrines. Oh well, such is life fighting in the Emperor&#039;s name. Hopefully his replacement will learn well from such an unfortunate accident.&lt;br /&gt;
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They also have mad shooting skills, some can even execute &#039;&#039;&#039;ENTIRE SQUADS OF COWARDS&#039;&#039;&#039; in the time it takes to drop their hats. If only they could shoot the enemies that fast, what with their phenomenal accuracy when shooting their own men and all.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;THEY&#039;RE SONS OF BITCHES!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;YOU SEE HE SHOT ME, WHAT AN ASSHOLE!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;QUIET, HERETIC! *BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;I&#039;m not dead!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!-BLAM!* DOUBLE HERESY! ONLY CHAOS INFESTED HERETICS REFUSE TO DIE FOR THEIR COMMISSARS&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;I FEEL FINE!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!-BLAM!-BLAM!-BLAM!-BLAM!-BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;I don&#039;t want to go on the cart!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;[[Necrons|I&#039;ll be back!]]&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;lt;b&amp;gt;[[Avenger Strike Fighter|BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT!!!!]]&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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They are preceded with Discipline Masters in Great Crusade era.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On a more serious note==&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond their reputation as [[Khârn|team-killing fuckheads]], the presence of Commissars make a lot of sense in the Imperial Guard. Copy-pasted straight from Civil War Soviet real world Commissars (save for the uniform) with a dash of Great War-era &amp;quot;charge the enemy or I&#039;ll execute you&amp;quot; British Army officer thrown in, they&#039;re political officers with everything that entails. &lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, they are the warrants of doctrine. They will deal with any disciplinary issue coming up whenever a Guardsman misbehaves. The punishment for cowardice and desertion is death and the Commissar will apply the sentence on the spot, but that is only the tip of the iceberg. As a Guard regiment travels around the Imperium, they will come in contact with other cultures and ideas. Ideas that could potentially be dangerous and morale-ruining (looking at you [[Tau]] propaganda, but not only). Just like their real-world counterparts made sure random Ivan remained true to the ideals of communism, the Imperial Commissar will ensure such heretical ideas are suppressed and the regiment remains loyal to the Imperium and fit for duty. Where to the simple Guardsman this translates into being constantly watched by a terrifying enforcer of discipline that does not hesitate to shoot a deserter on the spot, to the higher echelons of the Guard they&#039;re a (frankly necessary) constant reminder they&#039;re supposed to do their job as defined by [[High Lords of Terra|the old coots back home]] and not go rogue to seize a planet for their own or carve out their own little kingdom. Yeah, it takes a lot to become a Commissar, tactical and strategic training included: after all, they have to judge the competence of everyone, up to and including Lords Solar.&lt;br /&gt;
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A second part of their job is to ensure cooperation between elements of the Guard. You see, the Imperium is vast. Extremely vast. And only very loosely unified as a whole. Hence what is considered quite normal on one world would have denizens from another throw a massive bitchfit, if not worse. Imagine the result of stuck-up [[Mordian Iron Guard]]s in the same room as rowdy [[Catachan Jungle Fighters]] unsupervised, you&#039;ll get the idea. Commissars make sure discipline is maintained and rules are adhered to (by force of arms if necessary), no matter the origin of the warriors under their care. &lt;br /&gt;
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The third part is military counseling. Officially, a Commissar is outside the chain of command and can only advise on military matters, the ultimate decision remaining in the hands of the commanding officer. But, as mentioned, they also have the authority to execute any soldier if they conclude they&#039;re severely derelict in the prosecution of their duties (this includes high ranking officers, as both [[Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt|Ibram Gaunt]] and Viktor Hark have demonstrated). This means that Commissars will most of the time stay close to the action and lead by example and that people will listen to what they have to say (and almost always agree outright) for fear of {{BLAM}}. One of the core tenets of the [[Imperial Creed]] is [[Humanity Fuck Yeah|Mankind&#039;s right to be the sole owners of the Galaxy]], and the Commissar is always ready to personally prove it to any [[Harlequin|particular]] [[Exodite|breed]] [[Eldar Corsairs|of]] [[Eldar|Space]] [[Dark Eldar|Elf]], [[Ork]], [[Necron]], [[Tyranid|space bug]] or whoever was stupid enough to question Mankind&#039;s right to rule the stars with their existence that day. (They&#039;re helped by often being the most well-equipped and hardest motherfuckers in the squad.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Should it come to pass that the leader of a squad or regiment has fallen (one way or another, either due to the enemy or {{BLAM}}), the Commissar will assume command himself. Most Guardsmen dread when this happens for this all too often results in a &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;pointless last stand for anyone involved&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!  No death in the Emperor&#039;s name is pointless!&#039;&#039;&#039;}}; anyone attempting to retreat being helped to a bolter shell to the back of the head for cowardice. This is often all too true, but the Commissar has no choice: he simply cannot flee or order a retreat as he&#039;s well aware this would be the surest way for morale to collapse immediately, especially if he just executed the commanding officer. In many cases the situation has already gone so FUBAR when he assumes command that standing his ground and taking as many enemies of the Emperor with him as he can is the only meaningful choice left to him and the men close to him; [[Fist of the North Star|for they are already dead]]. The inverse is also true, if a commander refuses to retreat when it would serve the Emperor to do so, he can and will take command as well. This said, it is not always a bad thing when it happens. [[awesome|The most famous example]], of course, is [[Commissar Yarrick]] assuming command of the defense of [[Armageddon]]; whose undaunted contest of Hades hive made [[Ghazghkull Thraka]] lose sight of the larger battle because he couldn&#039;t see it as anything but a personal challenge and answered in kind, leaving the flanks of his hordes wide open for the Imperial counter-attack. Another thing to remember is that while a Commissar can temporarily recieve or assume command, they will relinquish it back to a proper officer at the end of the mission/first occasion they get. They are ([[Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt|mostly]]) watchdogs meant to keep an eye on the proceedings, not leaders themselves. &lt;br /&gt;
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Last but not least, the Commissars are also trained to look out for xenos or chaotic taint. Not all enemies of the Imperium [[Ork|conveniently charge at the Guard straight on]] but use much more insidious methods. So the Commissars are taught a little bit (just what is needed) about Chaos, [[Genestealer Cult|Genestealers]], Enslavers and all those kind of joyful things that could fuck over their regiment and how to look out for it, with the strict instruction to {{Blam}} anything they find out on sight.  Any [[psyker]] in their regiment will be under their constant scrutiny because where Average Joe just has a vague knowledge he should &#039;abhor the witch&#039;, the Commissar know what would happen if he would get [[Daemonhost|possessed]]. Better safe than sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the above in mind, you easily understand why Commissars are at best tolerated and often hated with a passion by the men under their care. They are hard and pitiless men, but that is a sad necessity in the [[grimdark|just as hard and pitiless 40k universe where the alternative is even worse]]. It should also be noted, that not all Commissars are trigger-happy fucknuts. The intelligent ones that live long lives learn that the right words can often inspire men just as well, if not better, than a bolt to the head. These Commissars learn to tell the difference in situations.  After all, the Commissars first job is to inspire the troops, through whichever means are most appropriate. Of course, the trigger-happy fucknuts do tend to spoil the bunch for the good ones.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Choices of equipment==&lt;br /&gt;
*Badass longcoat, badass sash and even more badass hat straight out of Hugo Boss during the Nazi era.&lt;br /&gt;
*Mars-Pattern ceramite balls&lt;br /&gt;
*Flak armour- Standard guardsman issue Commissar armoured underwear.&lt;br /&gt;
*Carapace armor &amp;amp; Refractor field- A better armour and a force field for genre-savvy Lord Commissar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Camo-cloak. Serves to hide said badass garments and get less fire from the enemy and guardsmen.&lt;br /&gt;
*Special Mask for a Lord that weeps tears of blood near traitors! Oh and scares people. Also gives a force field.&lt;br /&gt;
*(Other) Special Mask for Commissars lucky enough to get the Death Korps of Krieg (easiest gig in the guard cuz Kriegers commissar themselves)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Saber- Often carried to swing towards enemies while riding a Leman Russ tank so that he could drive closer and hit enemies with his sword.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Chainsword]]- For a sword that&#039;s actually useful more often than not.&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Power weapon|Power sword or power axe]]- For slaying armored enemies and hassle-free decapitations.&lt;br /&gt;
**Power fist- For punching through enemy [[METAL_BOXES|Metal Bawkses]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Laspistol]]- Clean, precise, and efficient working tool of the Commissar that doesn&#039;t waste ammunition. Less satisfying to execute people with though. The Imperial Infantryman’s Uplifting Primer recommend it however as the laser beam will cauterize the wound it makes, keeping your uniform spring clean despite your executions. This is noted to be the favored pistol of choice for the vast majority of commissar&#039;s featured in the Dawn of War series. &lt;br /&gt;
*Bolt pistol- Produces very satisfying {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}ming sound that raises self-esteem of the worthless ponce hold-{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}, can also get through standard issue Imperial flak armor if you need to blam someone in the chest on the battle field.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bolter]]- Good for shooting underarmoured enemies and your entire squad if you suspect them all of {{BLAM|HERESY}}.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Plasma|Plasma pistol]]- Good for shooting armoured enemies dead, and executing cowardly tanks. Bad for summary executions since it&#039;s poor form for it to over heat when trying to &amp;quot;inspire&amp;quot; your squad.&lt;br /&gt;
*Baleful Eye- [[Commissar Yarrick|Lasgun built in the eye socket to kill Orks with a glare]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Grenades &amp;amp; bombs.&lt;br /&gt;
*Titanium balls.&lt;br /&gt;
*Two pairs of balls, (see above)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reasonable Commissars==&lt;br /&gt;
Reasonable Commissars do not execute those who flee. However, they do carry a potent stun-gun to bring down those who break ranks and save the bolter shells for those who have willingly became servants of Chaos or Xenos. Afterwards, the accused is brought before a military tribunal to judge what the appropriate punishment will be. Reasonably Hard Labor is a common punishment. If a not-so-reasonable Commissar is present the punishment is invariably a {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-ing. The bast- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Reasonable Commissars can often be found in units operating alongside [[Reasonable Marines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Reasonable Commissars understand their duty is to instill courage within the Imperial Guard, not to instill discord and discontent. Thus they lead by example and be the first to die and last to retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Reasonable Commissars only exist because there are Commissars who are *ahem* &#039;&#039;dicks&#039;&#039;...such as Commissar Jericho of the 8th Cadian Whiteshield division:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{topquote|Lil&#039; Timmy: &amp;quot;Commissar? My helmet won&#039;t fit. Can you please help me fasten it?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Jericho: &amp;quot;IF YOU CANNOT FASTEN YOUR OWN HELMET, YOU&#039;RE AN INEFFECTIVE SOLDIER! AN INEFFECTIVE SOLDIER IS THE SAME AS A HERETIC IN MY BOOK! SUMMARY EXECUTION FOR YOU!&amp;quot; {{BLAM}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;SO. ANY OF YOU OTHER CHILDREN WANT HELP WITH SOMETHING? WHAT ABOUT YOU, OLIVER? DO YOU STILL WANT MORE PORRIDGE? OH WAIT, YOU&#039;RE DEAD! HAH! GET BACK TO FIGHTING YOU LITTLE PIECES OF SLIME!|From the records of Inquisitor Murtho}}&lt;br /&gt;
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To some extent, they do actually exist in Warhammer canon, with [[Ciaphas Cain]] (&#039;&#039;&#039;HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;) and [[Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt|Ibram Gaunt]] being the most iconic examples, the fact that they became tremendously famous (OK, Gaunt - not so much) and idolized is implied to have led to many newer Commissars using their less trigger happy and more reasonable methods. Proof that sometimes, you can make a positive difference in Warhammer.&lt;br /&gt;
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It could be argued that all Commissars are reasonable as most don&#039;t hold malicious intent when killing their own, or don&#039;t kill their own unless in extreme (Read: Chaos) circumstances, since most of the time shooting your own men can be counterproductive when they&#039;re light infantry fleeing from a Super heavy tank. Or if they, you know, have orders to pull back. Obviously they are evil fucks for killing their own men but usually it is done because it has to be done. Rules are rules, heresy is heresy, and Commissars have to show some authority. Not saying that they are necessarily nice guys but no Commissar ever sleeps well at night, except Gaunt, he was pretty fucking cool!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Female Commissars==&lt;br /&gt;
A female Commissar is a rare sight, except by the Vostroyans, otherwise, there is little to no representation in the fluff. This is because women in the [[Schola Progenium]] are far more likely to end up in the [[Adepta Sororitas]] (because the limitations set after [[Goge Vandire|Goge Vandire]] had to go fuck everything up, so the Ecclesiarchy needs all they can get). However, there have been all-female regiments of guardswomen, and they only had female Commissars.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the recent [[Lemartes]] novel, there is a female Commissar Stromberg attached to the [[Mordian Iron Guard]]--she died like she lived, making an infantry charge against motherfucking [[Skarbrand]] of all things before being ripped into 3 bits with one axe swing, thus buying enough time for the Blood Angels to regroup and therefore get all the glory of banishing the Daemon. Typical.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Commissar Raege]] is one of the rare cases of a woman that became a Commissar.&lt;br /&gt;
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As of late 2018-2019, Games Workshop has put out a series of novels about a female Commissar called Severina Raine.  They&#039;ve also released a really nice model for her (which is horribly overpriced in cash - she costs nearly twice as much as the most expensive Commissar models, and has fairly lame rules).  They&#039;ve also hyped her as a fan favorite despite being a newcomer which reeks of [[Games Workshop#/tg/ Analysis of Games Workshop|corporate greed]],  [[SJW|or worse]]; since Raine got a model while long-time fan-favorite [[Ciaphas Cain|Cain]] hasn&#039;t even got a model yet (unlike Cain, Gaunt and his Ghosts at least had metal minis made of them years ago).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commissar in Squat Regiments==&lt;br /&gt;
It was considered a common occurrence for a Commissar to be grouped with a [[Squat]] regiment when they were still relevant in 40k lore. However unlike in the Guard, the Commissars being stationed with the stunties act as advisers rather than a force of morale. This is mainly done to keep an eye on the Squats. Of course a Commissar is forbidden in {{BLAM|Blamming}} a Squat since while he has a Bolt/Laspistol, you basic [[Squat Trooper]] has Plasma Guns, Conversion Beamers and captured [[Eldar]] D-Cannons as their flashlight equivalent. So if the Commissar is a idiotic prick and thinks he/she has near impunity with the Squats he is stationed with, he will soon find his face kissing the barrel of a Squat Melta Gun.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wish we still have some of our Dorfs back, then we can teach these red-capped bastards on what it is like on the firing li-{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; insulting a Commissar is &#039;&#039;HERESY&#039;&#039;! BLAM! BLAM! BLA-}} &amp;lt;span style=&#039;color:maroon;font-size:110%&#039;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;*FFSSSHHHHHOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!* Oi! Ye Boltshell hit Grimmly in the eye! Your payment for harming us is swift ye Red-Capping Boggort!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, the Space Dorfs did not fuck around back in the day. Commissars act not only as advisers but also supporting leaders. But their leadership is often ineffectual when compared to that of [[Squat Warlord]], [[Guildmaster]] or heck, even a [[Living Ancestor]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Traitor Commissars==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Heresy}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TraitorCommissarOgryn.jpg|thumb|200px|right|&#039;&#039;Those who would break this oath are Heretics, worthy of neither pity, nor mercy! &#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
While it was originally believed to be near impossible for any Commissar to fall to Chaos (at least for those of you following the [https://regimental-standard.com/2017/05/10/your-friend-the-commissar/ The Regimental Standard], and [https://regimental-standard.com/2019/03/13/commissars-an-errata/ The Regimental Standard] never lies, although it may make very minor errors at times), the existence of Traitor Commissars has been confirmed. While it seems they still act as leaders of heretics and traitor Guardsmen, their exact role (and whether or not they execute people for being possible Loyalists) is uncertain, although a good guess is that they&#039;d act like [[Renegade Enforcer|enforcers]] on a wider scale.&amp;lt;Br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Ciaphas Cain in his memoirs states that Commissars occasionally do join Chaos when their regiment joins Chaos, but normally if a regiment decides to serve Chaos, the Commissar is one of the first people killed by the regiment when it decides to purge loyalists of the Corpse Emperor. In one of the Ciaphas Cain books, a Commissar joins the 13th Black Crusade.&lt;br /&gt;
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Out of meta, there are only two instances where we&#039;ve seen playable Chaos commissars: the first being the abovementioned Enforcers made by Forge World and the second being the Escalation expansion of [[Blackstone Fortress]], where he&#039;s accompanied by a mutant Ogryn bodyguard.&lt;br /&gt;
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==What not to do around a Commissar==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Commissar_NO.jpg|thumb|200px|right|If you have to ask...]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unless you have a death wish (since you&#039;re drafted into the Guard, we already KNOW you have a death wish) these are the things you should avoid doing around your Commissar unless you want to be shot for a number of reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Do not retreat until he says so.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not look like you will retreat before he says so.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about retreating before he says so.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about thinking of retreating before he says so.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not retreat even WHEN he says so.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not refuse to retreat when he says so because you will later be shot for insubordination.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not be incompetent in battle, he&#039;ll execute you for being useless.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not move too far away from a Commissar attached to your squad, he might think you are retreating without his command.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not fap to the women that are [[Shlicktau|xenos]], [[Cultist-chan|heretics]], or [[Furry|mutants]] while in the field of battle... or outside.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not fap to [[-4_Str|human women]] either, he&#039;ll execute you for dereliction of duty. Also, Slaanesh worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not fap &#039;&#039;&#039;AT ALL&#039;&#039;&#039; Because it is heresy. No! Fap to the Corpse-Empero- wait, I kinda gave that away, didn&#039;t- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not mock anyone in the upper command structure, social status and organizations. It&#039;s the same as treason and treason, kids, is [[HERESY]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not look at your Commissar with a [[grimdark]] look, he&#039;ll assume you want to kill him. Unless you&#039;re a Catachan. He doesn&#039;t need to see the look to know you want to kill him.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not pretend to listen to your Commissar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not pretend to pretend to listen to your Commissar.&lt;br /&gt;
*GODAMMIT LISTEN TO YOUR COMMIS- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*CRACK*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Oops my lasgun misfired. Sorry Commissar... (not really) {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*Rolls a six on the armor save.&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Not apologizing for shooting your Commissar is heresy!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not interrupt him while speaking, he&#039;ll execute you for the insubordination.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not change your underwear. Tzeentch worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not neglect to change your underwear. Nurgle worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not bring up the paradox of changing underwear. Malal worship. (There is no paradox as long as you follow the correct procedure. First remove and burn the tainted garment while reciting the litany of blessed hygiene. Instead of &amp;quot;Changing&amp;quot; your underwear, proceed to replace the purged garments with identical standard pattern guard issued underwater.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not worship the [[Chaos|ruinous powers]], even if your Commissar is-{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Commissars are loyal servants of the Emperor!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not look like you are worshipping the ruinous powers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about worshipping the ruinous powers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about thinking about worshipping the ruinous powers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think &#039;&#039;&#039;AT ALL&#039;&#039;&#039; or he&#039;ll think you are thinking about worshiping the ruinous powers.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not find out about the Ruinous Powers. Best you can hope for is being sterilised and mind-wiped.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not fall ill. Nurgle worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not fall seriously ill. Serious Nurgle worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about getting ill. More Nurgle worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think abou- To Hell with this, you are already thinking about getting ill! {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not watch &amp;quot;My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic&amp;quot;, that is both Tzeentch and Slaanesh worship. (and if the excessive cuteness makes you sick than it&#039;s also Nurgle Worship, and if the associations with Chaos or furries makes you overly angry that&#039;s Khorne worship.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not openly question his orders.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not question his orders behind his back either.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not suggest your orders are suicidal.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not suggest that said &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;suicidal&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; Commissar should join the enemy, if he is able to kill his squad so quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not suggest anything, lest he take it for Heresy.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not mention that the Ministorum Priests are better motivators. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Insubordination!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not mention that the sanctioned Psykers scare you more than him. &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Insubordination again!}}&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|Actually that&#039;s acceptable, the mutant witch must be thoroughly abhorred and constantly monitored for [[heresy]].}} &#039;&#039;&#039;UNBLAM!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Commissar did I just see you execute a guardsmen and than bring him back to life? Could that perhaps be a bit of chaos sorcery? *Flashes Inquisitorial Seal* I think we need to have a little chat back aboard my ship. Seize this Commissar on suspicion of [[Heresy]]!&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not mention that he is the most useless unit to have in a command squad. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Insubordination again! Why won&#039;t you die!?}}&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; Oh Holy Terra your Unblamming made him a [[perpetual]]. Take this guardsman back to the ship as well and tell the captain to prepare for [[Exterminatus]] this whole page is corrupted.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do NOT interrupt him while attempting to execute someone &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;unless you have a pretty good reason&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; as he&#039;ll execute you along with the one about to be executed.&lt;br /&gt;
*DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES challenge him or her in a western shootout. Why? Because they&#039;ll {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} kill you all in LESS than a splitsecond, now get back to the front, or you&#039;ll join him.&lt;br /&gt;
*DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES give your Commissar a new bolt pistol for his birthday. Just think of how fast he can {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} your squad if he goes Akimbo...&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not ask a Commissar for a bullet in the head. He &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; have you flogged for cowardice.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not ask a Commissar for a flogging. He &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;WILL&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; have you shot in the spine for being a Slaaneshi Cultist. Not that that&#039;s a bad thing, being a Sla-{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not, in any way, shape, or form, give a zealous Commissar an Assault Cannon. You will have no unit.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not, under any circumstances, give a zealous Commissar a Deathstrike Missile Launcher. You &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; have no army.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not give a zealous Commissar a spacecraft. You will have [[Exterminatus|lost a planet]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not give a Commissar a cookie, or he&#039;ll think you are trying to poison him. You chaos worshipping freak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not be bald, then you are a Genestealer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not be balding, then you are becoming a Genestealer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about balding, then you are thinking about becoming a Genestealer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not think about thinking about balding, you don&#039;t wanna become a Genestealer.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not add to this list, or else he will have you shot for insubordination. He- Yes, Sir!... No, sir... Sir? {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;THIS LIST NEEDS MORE CHAOS!&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}}!!&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not use an axe as a last-ditch weapon. Khornate behaviour. Only acceptable if having said &amp;quot;For the Emperor!&amp;quot; and dying soon afterwards for the Imperium.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not eat your rations in a particularly vigorous manner. Khorne worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Any alteration of the standard uniform shall not be tolerated. Tzeentch worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Growing facial hair in the pres- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}. More Tzeentch worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not cut yourself while shaving your facial hair. More Khorne worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Surviving a life threatening injury at the hands of the enemy. Serious Tzeentch worship.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not bring prostitutes to the base while your unit is on leave. Slaanesh worship (and just plain improper behavior).&lt;br /&gt;
*Waking up lat- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}. Cowardice.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not deface or lose your Imperial Infantrymen&#039;s Uplifting Primer. (even though any veteran guardsman will tell you most of pages are complete bullsh- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}} )&lt;br /&gt;
*Calling your self a member of the &amp;quot;Astra Militarum&amp;quot; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}} we are and always have been the Imperial Guard: Hammer of the Emperor!&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not lose your issued Lasgun. Unless it&#039;s loss is unavoidable in{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} {{BLAM|A proper Guardsman would never lose his Lasgun.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not remind him that technically Commissars are outside the chain of command and cannot order you. So next time a fraking com- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;. Cursing Commissars is HERESY!!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not try to take the easy way out with suicide. Malal worship. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY! MALAL DOES NOT EXIST!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not kill heretics. Malal worship. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY! Once again, MALAL DOES NOT EXIST!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not steal from a Commissar.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not make fun of the Emperor.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not act in a way that convinces your Commissar that you could be a [[Genestealer]]. After all, it could be any one of us. It could be you, it could be me, it could even b{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Whoa, whoa! {{BLAM|What? It was &#039;&#039;obvious&#039;&#039;! He&#039;s the Genestealer! Watch, he&#039;ll sprout gribbly bits any second now! ... Any... Second now... See? Gribbly bits! No, wait, that&#039;s intestines.}} So, we still have a problem. {{BLAM|Big problem. Alright, who&#039;s ready to go find the Genestealer?}} &amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:purple&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Right behind you.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; BY THE EMPEROR, SEND THE ULTRAMARINES, THEY&#039;RE EVERYWHERE!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Do not gift the Commissar a bolter. This will allow him to blam even more {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Your unit has been executed for Cowardice!}} &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Sir they were the artill-&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Disagreeing with the Commissar is heresy as well!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not gift the Commissar a Missile launcher. He will use it on the tanks. {{BLAM| &#039;&#039;&#039;Any tank that does not drive into sward swiping distance is clearly a traitor tank! *FWOOSH!*}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Do not gift the Commissar a heavy bolter. Seriously, just do--{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*THUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMP* I will use whatever weapon I want to dammit!&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Ha ha you missed. That&#039;s what happens when you move with a heavy weapon idi- {{BLAM| &#039;&#039;&#039;*SLASH* Fight phase bitch! Eat power sword!&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Whatever else you do, Never Ever EVER steal a Commissar&#039;s hat.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==What to do around a Commissar==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Oh Lawd.png|150px|right|thumb|Nothing escapes the vigilant eye of a Commissar (except everything)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Worship the Emperor&lt;br /&gt;
*Talk fairly loudly about how the chaos gods suck. (Except for slaanesh who is just bad damn thing dosen&#039;t need to suck any more. Besides, saying Slaanesh sucks could be considered worship, resulting in a {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!ing*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}).&lt;br /&gt;
*Make sure all your gear is organized, cleaned, maintained, and free of non-standard issue modifications.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do go into [[rage]] mo- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Getting angry is Khorne worship! (Raging over the filthy xenos is acceptable though.)}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Praise him on a job well done when circumstances are right- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Kissing ass is borderline Slaneesh worship!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Shine his laspistol when he isn&#039;t using it. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Handling your superior officer&#039;s weapons is grand treason!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Give him a blowjo- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; SLAANESHI HERETIC!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Charge towards Khorne Berserkers even if you don&#039;t want to. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Suicidal charges are borderline Khorne worship. Neglecting to charge however is disobeying orders. So either way you get &#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;ed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Go to battle even if you&#039;re feeling sic- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Spreading sickness to your comrades is serious Nurgle worship!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Compliment his marksmanship skills. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT KISSING ASS!!?}} Pff, missed m- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Easily enough to fix.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Let him know in advance when you&#039;re having a sick day so he won&#039;t execute you for dereliction of du- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; NURGLE WORSHIPER!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Have your uplifting primer on your person. Failure to present it on request will result in {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}.&lt;br /&gt;
*Bring him [[An Eldar&#039;s Ears|a captive Eldar]] {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; XENOS LOVING FILTH!!}} ([[Love Can Bloom|&amp;quot;I&#039;ll be happy to take that captive off your hands Commissar, the agents of the Assasinorum are experienced in such matters.&amp;quot;]])&lt;br /&gt;
*When the rest of your squad looks like they are gonna fall back, step away from the Commissar&#039;s general direction as he might choose to execute you to make an example for the rest of the men.&lt;br /&gt;
*When the rest of your squad looks like they are gonna fall back, step towards the Commissar&#039;s general direction as he might choose to execute you to make an example for the rest of the men.&lt;br /&gt;
*When you are about to do something that can only be described as batshit insane and a Commissar&#039;s around suggest it to him, if you survive said suicide mission he&#039;ll probably favor you a bit, which probably means that he MIGHT actually think about who&#039;s he shooting at.&lt;br /&gt;
*If you&#039;re the guy at the wheel of a transport, DRIVE HIM CLOSER! HE WANTS TO HIT THE ENEMIES OF THE EMPRAH WITH HIS SWORD!&lt;br /&gt;
*Pee on Dead Orks&lt;br /&gt;
*Prior to giving him wargear, make sure that you &#039;&#039;haven&#039;t&#039;&#039; cleaned it, most Commissars prefer the bloodstained wargear look. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; failure to clean blood off of your weapons or uniform is an offence against the Departmento Munitorum policies!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Make sure you&#039;re the only man left in the squad other than the Commissar when retreating, the Commissar rulebook says that if the squad he is attached to only has one man left, he isn&#039;t allowed to make his face blow up because he&#039;d end up looking stupid and it&#039;s a waste of ammo since there is nobody to inspi {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; The Commissar does what he wants!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*If the Commissar looks pissed read (or at least pretend to read) an Imperial Creed book or something, he can&#039;t shoot you because you&#039;re reading Imperial Creed stu-- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Now you are no longer reading it. Situation resolved.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Bring an RPG or other Big Fucking Gun in case he tries to blam you. Make sure you say &amp;quot;you&#039;ve been bla- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}} (pssst! Make sure you say &amp;quot;You&#039;ve been BLAMMED!&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039; you kill the Commissar and know there aren&#039;t more on the battlefield. [[Just As Planned|WHO&#039;S LAUGHING NOW COMMISSARS!?]]){{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*If your Commissar has a bolt pistol make sure there that when he starts {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}ing that there are 10 people closer to the Commissar then you. That way after he&#039;s done blaming the rest of your platoon he might think you &#039;suitably inspired&#039; so as to not blam you. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*CLICK*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} See it works! {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; RELOADING IS ONLY A TEMPORARY INCONVENIENCE TO THE AGENTS OF THE IMPERIUM!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*Be born on [[Catachan Jungle Fighters|Catachan]] those over dressed foreigners don&#039;t have the balls to shoot you. {{BLAM|HERESY!! &#039;&#039;&#039;*KABOOM*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} &amp;quot;Why no sarge, I have no idea why the Commissar decided to do a patrol, through a mine field, in the dead of night.&lt;br /&gt;
*Be a member of the Karauvan Conservators. Vance Motherfucking Stubbs loves his motherfucking men. Also because no Commissar wants to {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} people who can {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} a Living Saint to death with flashlights.&lt;br /&gt;
*Instead of &#039;&#039;DYING&#039;&#039;, try to acquire the Enemy&#039;s head. Minor kudos for a Grunt, some kudos for an NCO Equivalent, and perhaps at least a bit of respect from the Commissar him/herself for an enemy Commander, or said Commander&#039;s Lieutenants. Possible points if you shout out: &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;DEATH UNTO THE ENEMIES OF MA-...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Borderline Khorne-Worship!}}&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; (&#039;&#039;&#039;ALL&#039;&#039;&#039; foes of mankind must be cleansed. Punishing such actions is heretical in of itself Commissar.) &#039;&#039;&#039;Unblam&#039;&#039;&#039; {{BLAM|Re-&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; RESURRECTING THE DEAD IS SERIOUS HERESY!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Inquisitorial Decree:&#039;&#039;&#039; Commissars are henceforth forbidden from &#039;&#039;&#039;Unblamming&#039;&#039;&#039;. The practice of resurrecting the dead is chaos sorcery. Loyal imperial citizens who have been accidentally {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;ed}} can take solace in the fact that their souls will spend eternity basking in the Emperor&#039;s divine light.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notable Commissars==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt]] (&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Who?&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;) {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; HERESY!}} ([[Derp|The one, who killed a Daemon Prince with 1 hit from a simple Close Combat Weapon, in the era when DP was Eternal Warrior.]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar Yarrick]] &amp;lt;span style=&#039;color:green;font-size:115%&#039;&amp;gt; Da orkiest humie eva!!&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Commissar [[Ciaphas Cain]] &#039;&#039;&#039;HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; Secretly believes himself to be a coward. The truth of that is up for debate.&lt;br /&gt;
*Commissar [[Severina Raine]]: the main character of the short story &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Execution&#039;&#039;&#039; and the novel &#039;&#039;&#039;Honor Bound&#039;&#039;&#039; by Rachel Harrison, Severina is the rare female Commissar who has managed to get her own (limited-run and therefore overpriced) figure and rules!&lt;br /&gt;
*Commissar-General Delane Oktar: Ibram Gaunt&#039;s mentor and substitute father-figure. He should have died better.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar Fuklaw]] is tired of putting up with your heretical bullshit.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar Dan]]: A /tg/-created character from the days of yore (along with Fuklaw and the [[Angry Marines]]) that got somewhat canon-ised by Fantasy Flight Games. Likes to order charges from atop his [[Basilisk Artillery Gun|Basilisk]] &#039;&#039;Fluffy&#039;&#039;. According to FFG, his full name is Daniel Sterne and he met his end while attempting to ram a [[Helbrute]] with &#039;&#039;Fluffy&#039;&#039; when the damn thing came too close.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar Koulick Krieg]] attached to the famed storm trooper regiment known as the Redemption Corps and an agent for the Adeptus Ministorum. Never officially trained as a Commissar, but field promoted from storm trooper on behalf of the Ecclesiarchy to infiltrate the &amp;quot;heretical&amp;quot; regiment that was the free thinking Redemption Corps, eventually turning on his masters and becoming a full part of the Corps instead.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heretical Love|Commissar Max]] the Lovemachine of Yagis V. (It should be noted that he was actually a guardsman who picked up Commissar regalia and weapons.)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[K59|Commissar K59]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Holt]] {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*SLAP*&#039;&#039;&#039; Commissar Holt!!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Commissar Raege]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;[[Kharn|Kharn]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRVcdLPqoHg| The Commissar]&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Major Khorne worship!}}&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Colonel Greiss]] Formerly a Commissar; became a conventional officer through necessity.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Commissar Lord Bernn|Commissar LORD Bernn]] (always put LORD in ALL CAPS -bold is optional-, not doing so is Heresy.) Known for making entire armies completely invincible as long as he has people to execute and beating Mega-Daemon Princes, Hive Tyrants, Land Raider Redeemers, Battlewagons, Deranged Khornate Chaos Champions (if you&#039;re so far off your rocker that other Khornates think you&#039;re crazy, you may be a wee bit nutters), and Eldar wraithlords to death with a power fist. Also notable for being able to one-shot any infantry, from lowly Ork boyz to TERMINATORS with his laspistol. He needs no words to show he&#039;s a badass.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar &amp;quot;Colonel&amp;quot; Schaeffer&#039;&#039;&#039; He had his arm shot off by a plasma gun &#039;&#039;&#039;AND GREW IT BACK&#039;&#039;&#039;, had his spine rebuilt after being crushed by a tank and made a full recovery, had his eyes replaced after his other ones were destroyed and has survived being thrown into suicide mission after suicide mission for over 300 years &#039;&#039;&#039;LIKE A BOSS&#039;&#039;&#039;, he gets down and dirty and is usually seen in front of his men in the battle rather than behind them. He&#039;s still brutal as fuck to deserters though. *why doesn&#039;t he have his own pag- {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Jaes &amp;quot;Jellyfish&amp;quot; Quallen&#039;&#039;&#039;. Fragile, stuttering, clumsy, prone to disease, about as intimidating as a wet kitten. His enlistment was a cruel wager between two of his rich aunts to see if he would survive. He barely made his commission as Commissar, and he was discarded to the Catachan 217th infantry to get rid of him. And yet he&#039;s still alive today. What&#039;s more, he leads his men from the very front, utterly fearless when the jagged teeth of Chaos spawn (&#039;&#039;&#039;OH GOD NOOOOOOAAAAAUUUUUUUGHHHHHHH!!! GRRAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039; Mercy killing; continue.}}) are inches from his face, humming to himself in the middle of the shitstorm that is every battlefield. Atypical for a Catachan company, his men are quite loyal to him, well-liked for leading by example instead of inspiring fear behind the lines ... although they do tease him off-duty by playing keepaway with his hat.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Viktor Hark&#039;&#039;&#039; - The Commissar for the Tanith First (and Only). Pretty bad ass dude with a cybernetic arm to beat heretics and a plasma pistol to melt faces with. Pretty reasonable for a Commissar, preferring {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}} only when it can have the most effect on a units morale, which in some cases means {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}ming the guy in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Flint&#039;&#039;&#039; was abruptly reassigned to the reconstituted 77th Vostroyan Firstborn Dragoons, whose first mission was to quell a bloody rebel uprising at a penal facility on Furia Penitens. Leading a picked team of escaped convicts and Firstborn, Flint infiltrated the vast creepy facility, wrecking Stalkers, slaying giant mutants with his power sword and slaughtering literal rebel scum by the dozens, all while keeping his execution-count impressively low and displaying many feats of epic badassery. Not bad for a Commissar who gets his own book who isn&#039;t Gaunt or Cain.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Fenstrum Holt&#039;&#039;&#039;: A supporting character in the ongoing &#039;&#039;&#039;Eagle Ordinary&#039;&#039;&#039;  [http://www.eagleordinary.com/chapters/77723/planetfall/]webcomic. NOT to be confused with (though he constantly is, even by his own junior, Commissar Talon Gunner) that &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; Holt *SLAP* [[Commissar Holt]]. &#039;&#039;&#039;This&#039;&#039;&#039; Holt is an elderly badass with a creepy bionic eye who manages to beat up trigger-happy aristocratic officers despite being only 5&#039;6. Although introduced in the comic&#039;s first page engaging in the Commissariat&#039;s trademark pastime {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*-ming&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Guardsmen, his character is so well-written and drawn he might just be the fan favorite. Might just be the only adult in the whole comic as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Daridh Ahl Karif&#039;&#039;&#039; : Commissar of the Fifth Company, 68th Vostroyan Regiment, one of the main character in the &#039;&#039;Rebel Winter&#039;&#039; novel. One of the few Reasonable Commissars in 40k. An unnaturally caring, nice, level-headed Commissar but also sternly ruthless when the situation demands it. Got posted down to a company-level commission in a pretty much worthless campaign for rejecting a Lord General&#039;s son homosexual love (no, seriously), leading to the rejected dude committing suicide. Currently serves as part of an Inquisitorial retinue.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Commissar Vaynom Blenner&#039;&#039;&#039; - A Commissar attached to the Tanith First (and Only). Basically the shit drug addict version of Ciaphas Cain.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commissar Mortality==&lt;br /&gt;
Commissars, at least those attached to an Imperial guard regiment, do not exactly have a high life expectancy. Next to the many horrible fates that await your average &amp;quot;balls of steel&amp;quot; Guardsman in the [[grimdark]] WH40K universe, the Commissars have some additional aggravating factors leading to a quick demise.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
* A Commissar&#039;s uniform is very different from those he is working with, add to that he is shouting things at people and possibly {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-ming them, probably without fire being returned at him, and is probably carrying different weapons than those around him. It doesn&#039;t take a genius to figure out he is an obvious High-Value Target which any sniper worth the name would take note of.&lt;br /&gt;
* Aforementioned uniform offers little to no head protection, head protection is for cowards and cowards get {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-med. (However, a Commissar&#039;s lack of headgear can get him {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-med by the enemy).(subverted for death korps as they have helmets under their hats)&lt;br /&gt;
* {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-ming cowards, and especially {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-ming non-cowards, often has a side effect of *accidentally* getting shot, repeatedly, sometimes even far from the front lines. This fate is particularly common for those attached to [[Catachan Jungle Fighters|Catachan]] units.&lt;br /&gt;
* Even when not getting *accidentally* shot/dropped in a pit/run over/... by his own troops, few Guardsmen will risk their lives to save a Commissar should he get into trouble with the enemy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Some Commissars both lead by example and expect their men to perform acts of suicidal courage, resulting in performing collective suicide in the name of the Emprah.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lots of Commissars like big flashy bolt pistols. Bolt pistols, [[Dakka|being roight flashy bitz of dakka]], naturally attract orks like sugar water attracts flies, and unlike laspistols eventually run out of bolts.&lt;br /&gt;
* According to their most recent models some unusually ballsy Commissars carry plasma pistols, and as such possess a statistical lifespan of six shots at maximum. {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*ZAP*&#039;&#039;&#039; Simply re-roll the ones with the cadia doctrine. anyone who doesn&#039;t spend cp to reroll said ones is a filty heretic!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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It should be noted that regimental standards vary:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Kriegers will leave a Commissar a wreck because they have to keep convincing the men that while it&#039;s laudable to die for the Emperor you have to do so while trying to kill His enemies. It&#039;s like herding sheep: if you keep your eye off of one for too long it&#039;ll be gone. Except this sheep wears a gas mask, digs a trench, bombards the enemy with mortar fire, then goes over the top and gets gunned down without achieving anything. Oh, and there&#039;s millions more like it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Serving with the Tallarn regiments that there will be sand EVERYWHERE. There&#039;s so much fucking sand everywhere. I mean, how did it even get there? Not to mention that you&#039;ll want to wear one of their turbans to protect your head against the heat, but you can&#039;t wear your cap alongside one of those things. And many a Commissar has suffered from dehydration following being told exactly what most of the regiment&#039;s water is distilled from.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- The Mordians employ the strictest of discipline and expect a Commissar to lead by example. When they inevitably mess up the Commissar is subjected to physical disciplinary actions, up to and including being flogged or even executed by the platoon.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- The Vostroyans are ABSOLUTE MADMEN and expect the Commissar to lead by examples of balls-out insanity and win the day, but they have trouble following the orders of a man who has no imposing facial hair. If a Commissar&#039;s lucky he&#039;ll be approached by one of the regiment&#039;s senior female officers who offers him one of her glue-on mustaches to spare him the indignity.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Scintillans show utter disdain for the Commissar because of his poor breeding and low social standing (word has it the Commissar is an orphan, for the Emperor&#039;s sake!) and will have their authority undermined by even the lowest of privates and when trouble arises a senior officer steps in and takes the offending soldier away, but punishment following this is rare.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Praetorians are fine enough soldiers, but their culture is very strange and requires unusual degrees of politeness from both officers and the rank-and-file. Not following these labyrinthian rules will be sternly frowned upon. And their officers will never, ever duck even when taking direct fire.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Drookians openly hate the Commissar&#039;s guts for being an outsider and a nancy for wearing pants instead of a kilt, but a clever Commissar will figure out that if he manages to convince the platoon that the enemy has slighted the Drookians&#039; clan honor all he needs to do is step aside and watch the men fuck the enemy up.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Brontians solve most of their internal struggles with knife fights, and the unfortunate Commissar who steps in to try and stop such a duel will quickly catch one, two, three or thirteen knives to the chest. The Brontians don&#039;t like them anyway due to their lack of scars.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Attilans laugh their asses of when the Commissar tries to ride a horse and keep falling off, and the platoon just rides ahead of him leaving the unfortunate Commissar in the dust.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- The Steel Legions are almost entirely mechanized, so a Commissar has to hang out with the same squad all the time. And he better be able to keep up when redeploying: miss the Chimera and it ain&#039;t coming back for you. Plus, nobody respects you because you&#039;re not Yarrick.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- With the Valhallans you constantly have to convince the commanders that yes, while it would result in a technical victory if you sacrifice a million men for that small amount of ground, it&#039;d be better to have them attack in a different way to win slower but with fewer losses. And they&#039;ll hate you for this.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- The Chem Dogs will hate the Commissar because people like him put them there, and will try to rob him blind without being found out.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Elysian, Harakoni and Phantine Skyborne regiments have a high Commissar mortality rate because they&#039;re not very well trained in the use of grav-chutes. And with those things, you&#039;ll make a mistake only once. Drop regiments in general have high mortality, so successfully landing is not much of an achievement either. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- With the Phantine Air Corps it&#039;s hard to say. On the one hand they are a guard regiment and not a navy unit, so Commissars come standard. What they do is trickier to say since they can&#039;t fly and even on bombers it&#039;s hard to justify attaching a spare person just to shoot one of the valuable air crew if they start to turn around, which if our own history of strategic bombing holds true, does not really happen, plus it would be a stupid waste to get a bomber formation shot down because unlike the men they are actually worth something to the Munitorum. Commissars therefore likely just sit around not doing much other then paper work and watching the pilots like a hawk when ever they are on the ground, thus proving that even in the 41st millennium the chair force meme still exists. {{BLAM|Then we shall destroy cowardly aircraft! &#039;&#039;&#039;*Fwoosh*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Kanak Skull Takers will hate the Commissar because he prevents them from taking skulls, and they do so anyway. If he becomes forceful about it they&#039;ll take a skull with a fancy hat.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
- Naval Commissars are the first targets when a mutiny occurs/the ship gets boarded. Otherwise, you aren&#039;t likely to survive a voidship becoming combat ineffective if not straight up losing life support/about half the bulkheads/the reactor/the engines/the magazine and Emperor forbid the Warp Drive or the Gellar Field Generator.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;Fear me...&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;but follow!&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;You can give the Emperor your loyalty, or I can take it from your corpse.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;You DARE shoot at me?...{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;AT ME?!&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;What I cannot crush with words, I shall crush with the tanks of the Imperial Guard.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Fear ensures loyalty! Where do you need me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Trooper, the enemy &#039;&#039;may&#039;&#039; kill you, but if you try to run I &#039;&#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039;&#039; kill you!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It is our duty to muster the Guardsmen&#039;s courage and loyalty under fire and it is our duty to - &#039;&#039;&#039;GET THE FUCK BACK HERE!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;WHO GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO DIE?! &#039;CAUSE I SURE AS HELL DIDN&#039;T!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrrCY7dgaqs Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Follow my example or I will MAKE YOU ONE!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* A compilation of some -if not all- of DowII Commissar quotes can be found: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLz_8ppLig here].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Heil Hitler!&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;}} Heil Emperor!&lt;br /&gt;
** Wouldn&#039;t it be &amp;quot;Heil der Gott-Kaiser&amp;quot;? {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!* HERESY!!!&#039;&#039;&#039; It is &amp;quot;Heil dem Gott-Imperator!&amp;quot; Good job on the hyphen, though.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*** Also wasn&#039;t the Emperor Hitler back in the 1930s? {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
**** The Corp...errr...&#039;&#039;&#039;The God-Emperor&#039;&#039;&#039; was never Hitler! Hitler had social skills!{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Nice try heretic.}}&lt;br /&gt;
*****{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*KA-BOOM*&#039;&#039;&#039; Talking about Hitler is heresy! He was a piece of shit!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;If you will not serve in combat, &#039;&#039;then you will serve &#039;&#039;&#039;on the firing line!&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;SHUT UP ZATHRAS&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;GLORY TO THE FIRST MAN TO DIE!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;DO NOT FAIL UPON MY RETURN!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
==TLDR==&lt;br /&gt;
How many Guardsmen were Executed writing this article?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Severina-Raine.jpg|Isn&#039;t she a beauty? Canon too!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commisarmoti.jpg|The real reason why Guardsmen do not revolt en masse.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Closer.jpg|Commissars never let practicality get in the way of their awesomeness.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commissar Surfing.jpg|Again, practicality is never a hindrance.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Comissar_Promotions.jpg|Imperial Guard Promotion policy, you either get promoted or {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-med, no exceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1230024061774.png|Reasonable Commissars know that summary execution is not always needed to motivate anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Thenewcommissar.jpg|[[Kharn]] during his traitor Commissar days with the Red Rivers traitor guardsmen.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Romantic_Commissar.jpg|Commissars can be romantic. It&#039;s just that they are too busy {{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}-ming Guardsmen.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Penguin_Commisar.jpg|Do not underestimate the Commissar under any circumstances, no matter how cute he may be.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Komissar_by_kriegsmachine14.jpg|Why so serious? Let&#039;s put a smile on that face...&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commissarpoke.jpg|Don&#039;t let this one&#039;s slow demeanor make you too confident.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1207335821953.jpg|[[Commissar Dan]] on the blaze of glory run&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commissar-Fuck_Yeah.jpg|Imperial Guard, FUCK YEAH!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commissar_Badass.jpg|[[Ciaphas Cain|HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Fixedhat2.jpg|The Commissar is here to ensure your loyalty.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:CommissarCos.jpg|{{BLAM|&#039;&#039;&#039;*BLAM!*&#039;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Commissar Hansen.jpg|Guardian of all Imperial [[loli|lolis]].&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Emote-commissar.gif&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Promotions}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Comissar-by-Chink-1.jpg|Chink loev Commissar&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Comissar-by-Chink-2.jpg|[[Rule 63]] spares no one.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Yarrick_by_Chink_1.jpg|[[Commissar Yarrick]] by Chink&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Yarrick_by_Chink_2.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Feb.jpg|Commissar from the ill-fated /tg/ calendar project&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Atra concept.jpg|Much Sexier Version&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Daemonette commisssar.JPG|One of these is not like the others.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:1226746378911.jpg|Squad morale restored.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:powerfists_commissar.jpg|[https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/imperial-soldiers/imperial-female-commissar-with-fists-of-power-pin-up/ If you&#039;re wondering how she&#039;s &amp;quot;coping&amp;quot; with those things, don&#039;t ask us, for we have as good an idea as you do.]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Angron</title>
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[[File:AngronArtPortrait.jpg|400px|right|thumb|Rare portrait of Angron. Strangely looking like he is holding a giant fart.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I-I am going to be a storm-a flame-&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I need to fight whole armies alone;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I have ten hearts; I have a hundred arms;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;I feel too strong to war with mortals-&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Rip and tear|BRING ME GIANTS]]!|Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|I was born in blood, raised in darkness and I shall die free!|Angron, to the Nucerian High Riders and their armies}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|‘That’s because you’re free. The world can be– hnng,’ he snarled, fighting off a stabbing wave of pain from his Nails, ‘beautiful, when you finally get to see it without chains.’|Angron, to one of his companions in the break, before the last fight against the Nucerian High Riders}}&lt;br /&gt;
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His name is Angron (A.K.A. &#039;&#039;&#039;The Red Angel&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;The Slave of Nuceria&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;40Kratos&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Shithead&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re sergeant Gharte, &#039;&#039;&#039;That Goddamn Retard&#039;&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re [[Leman Russ]]). Cmon, do we really have to spell it out? While his name &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;may be&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; is clearly a play on the word &amp;quot;Anger&amp;quot;, it is possible that his name is based on the Greek word &#039;&#039;Agrion&#039;&#039; which means &amp;quot;Wild&amp;quot; or even &#039;&#039;Agron&#039;&#039;, the Gallic word for &amp;quot;slaughter&amp;quot; (Which pretty much suits him considering he&#039;s the angriest, wildest, mother-fucking mother fucker in a long and extensive history of bipedal mother fuckers). Also, if you spell his name backwards it&#039;s Norgna, which has to count for something. Apparently the inspiration for his name was a corruption of the nickname a bouncer in Nottingham has: Angry Ron.&lt;br /&gt;
What we&#039;re trying to say is, Angron just might be the angriest and the most talented in manly face-to-face fighting son of a bitch in the galaxy. In fact, one time he was so angry about being angry all the time, that the part of him that made him angry exploded in his head, rendering him permanently angry (and also sexually impotent, but don&#039;t let him know that). And then there was that time he was kidnapped by the [[God-Emperor of Mankind|Emprah]], which didn&#039;t help his temper much, and gave him an excuse to fucking RAGE at his dad by joining up with [[Khorne]], Warhammer&#039;s God of Battle, War and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]]! Angron just so happens to be [[Primarch]] of the [[World eaters|World Eaters]] and [[Kharn|that swell guy]]. Hilariously, while you probably pictured a hulking brute reading this, he is described in fluff as one of the shortest Primachs, stooped and bald on the top of that. He is also Khorne&#039;s second most powerful champion, where he falls short to [[Doombreed]], Khorne&#039;s first ever [[Daemon Prince]]/Champion. But we can forgive him, because nobody can beat [[Genghis motherfucking Khan]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His revered exploits include slaughtering the entire population of a planet within a night; killing an entire contingent of Eldar warriors led by a Farseer when he was only a child; and leading a gladiator rebellion against their slavers and slaughtering 25 other armies sent against them, non-stop, until a huge one made up of seven armies came and fucked their shit up against a dirty rock. The Emperor saved him from dying there (but left all his buddies to die), which was a tremendous blow to his martial pride and among other things, eventually led him to [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]] furiously against the Emperor, believing him a coward devoid of honor. Angron went on to become one of the first Primarchs to side with Horus during the heresy, and was turned into a monstrous, frothing demon-prince by his brother Lorgar. Eventually, Angron joined up with KHORNE, the aforementioned God of War, Murder, Killing, Bloodshed, Weeping Buttholes, Battle and [[Rage|RAAAAAAAAAAGE]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNkRBowsAmI Here is the theme song of this glorious bastard.]&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
===Early Life===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Past-Angron-art.jpg|300px|right|thumb|You&#039;d be pissed off too if your dad didn&#039;t let you avenge your dog.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Angron has good reason to be ever-so-slightly miffed: his early life was one big bowl of shit after another. First he crash-landed on his new home [[Nuceria|world]] (because Khorne didn&#039;t give him a soft landing) and had a good chunk of his head torn off in the crash, after which he got jumped by the aforementioned Eldar, then (tired from the killing and the massive brain trauma --keep in mind he was like 6 hours old) got captured and sold into slavery by people with near-Imperial level technology before making him fight as a gladiator for their entertainment.&lt;br /&gt;
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A later retcon revealed he was a decent guy who loved his fellow gladiators, but after an incident where he refused to kill his adoptive father in the arenas, his masters proceeded to replace part of his brain with ARCHAEOTECH SHIT (originally this happened before he fully grew up) that drove him so mad that he murdered his dad regardless, cueing a massive bout of despair. The stuff they stuck in his head would later be called &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;, and, though never fully understood (even after the Emprah&#039;s best techs took a look), they constantly applied pain to his brain and made it so the only time he could feel anything resembling happiness was while murdering shit. It should also be noted that they go from excruciating to normal, and &#039;&#039;do not&#039;&#039; deal with the pleasure centers of the brain.&lt;br /&gt;
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After years of being a slave, fighting through the gladiator pits and becoming the best of them, Angron eventually set up and led a rebellion, fighting to free his brother and sister gladiators. This would make him 40k&#039;s answer to Spartacus, the same way Curze is 40k Batman. Around that time, the Emperor showed up, and hashed out a deal with the local planetary government in order to expedite Angron&#039;s capture and win over the planet without any further bloodshed, because there was no point in the Emperor helping his son win a (totally justified) war against a population that had already submitted to compliance. Of course, this deal required the Emperor to take Angron away from the only people who weren&#039;t shitty to him and leaving them all to die; but Big E didn&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about those fuckers (and they were all summarily executed, as you would expect in a slave rebellion). Naturally, he didn&#039;t tell Angron any of this, because &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;he couldn&#039;t give less of a shit&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; [[Aaron Dembski-Bowden]] wanted to make the Emperor look like an ass again. Daddy issues don&#039;t make for good writing, but said good writing is harder to write. Of course, the Emperor could have saved them all or simply kill the local slavers who were, despite compliance, flying in the face of the law of the Great Crusade, and take the slaves to his ship to be made into a loyal ass-wrecking rapetrain of AWESOME alongside all the Terran legionnaires. Buuuut we need our dose of our [[Edgy]] [[Grimdark]] here, right?&lt;br /&gt;
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Back on [[Terra]], the Big E summoned [[Arkhan Land]] to his labs and showed Angron spread out with his skull hacked open &amp;amp; brain exposed on a surgery table, taking a good look at Angron&#039;s fucked-up skull and decided that he was a waste of time and effort, and arrived at the conclusion that even trying to remove them would likely kill him (reference &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot;). The Mechanicus estimated that he wouldn&#039;t live long enough to see the end of the Great Crusade. &lt;br /&gt;
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Still, considering that later during the Horus Heresy, &#039;&#039;&#039;Menes Kalliston&#039;&#039;&#039; of the [[Thousand Sons]] was fairly certain that their [[psyker]]-medics could figure out how to remove them from [[Khârn|a certain swell guy]], it is possible that the Emperor - being the most intelligent person in the [[Imperium]] and the most powerful psyker ever - &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;could&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039; have achieved it if he put some resources into it. Or equally likely the Thousand Son space marine was just stalling because he had an insane pscho-killer moments away from killing him breathing down his neck in the same room with him. He may equally likely simply hope to live long enough to recharge his psychic batteries and then break free. It is explicitly mentioned that he had not recovered his full psychic might yet. Also he offered to help cure Kharn while standing on a planet (Prospero) that had been completely and utterly annihilated. Still, considering in &amp;quot;Mechanicum&amp;quot; the Empra he merely needed to touch an [[Imperial Knight|Knight]] to fully repair the machine, so some people may argue the Emperor did not care what would happen to Angron. [[skub|This is another of those fine writing moments in HH, more specifically &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot;]] as it is explained that repairing a machine and removing a piece of archeotech from a Primarch&#039;s brain after having been told this would likely kill Angron are completely different things. The Emperor was told that Angron would likely not see the the end of the crusade, and thus took the only option reasonably available to Him: let things take their course silently as not to damage morale within the World Eaters ranks. Could He have saved Angron? Perhaps, should he have the occasion to put his entire undivided attention to it. But with Him busy with the demands of the Imperium, powering the [[Astronomican]] and trying to get the Human Webway online the Emperor simply could not put everything on hold, not even to save one of his Primarchs. [[Grimdark|Colder than the vacuum of space, but that&#039;s the galaxy as we know and like it!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Crusade===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Preheresy-world-eaters.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Angron back when the Great Crusade was still a thing.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Topquote|You kept that mule Kor Phaeron. Russ kept his kin-friends. The Lion kept Luther. Humans - brothers and foster fathers - saved and raised into Legion ranks. But not me. Not Angron, no. Did the Emperor teleport his gold-wrapped Custodians down to help me and my army? No. Did he free the War Hounds and order them to battle, fight alongside me? No. Did he save my brothers and sisters the way he spared the Lion’s closest kin? No, no, and no. No mercy for Angron. Angron the Oathbreaker. Angron the Betrayer.| Angron explains his anger towards the Emperor to Lorgar, during one of his more calm moments.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, when Angron was introduced to his legion he was inconsolable. He ended up hacking apart the legion captains until Khârn (who was actually much further down the list of command, having risen up the ladder thanks to several of his superiors&#039; untimely ends) managed to talk some sense into his father. Though bearing in mind the Emperor had already let [[Perturabo]] dispassionately decimate 10% of an &#039;&#039;entire legion&#039;&#039;, Angron killing some captains in an emotional meltdown is small potatoes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, [[Kharn]] successfully talks some sense into him, and Angron renamed his legion &#039;&#039;World Eaters&#039;&#039;, a name you might recognize translates to &#039;&#039;fucking savage&#039;&#039; in the common tongue. Angron&#039;s old army of gladiators whom he&#039;d led to freedom and been denied death alongside them was known as &amp;quot;the eaters of cities&amp;quot; on [[Nuceria]]. So, as Dreagher, a Terran-born War Hounds legionary who served as Captain of the Legion&#039;s 9th Company, described it: &#039;&#039;from then on, they would no longer be the War Hounds, but Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;eaters of worlds&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron then replicated the Butcher&#039;s Nails technology on his legionaries, despite the Empy&#039;s warnings and how much he hated the source of the Nails, his old masters - which adds a little hypocritical spice to his complaints about how the Nails ruined his life, given that he did the same thing to other people for no fucking reason when given the chance. Perhaps Angron wanted his sons to feel the same pain he experienced since he would never be able to remove the goddamn thing from his brain and it pissed him off that his own flesh and blood did not suffer as he did. Even in spite of being the first legionary to GIT SOME, [[Kharn|that swell guy]] became Angron&#039;s &#039;cool headed&#039; equerry. Ironic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Nails also negatively interacted with psykers, killing Librarians who tried to get them installed (blowing holes in spaceships and taking down entire squads of space marines in the process as their altered brain chemistry made it impossible for them to control their abilities anymore). Also merely being near a psyker made other Legionaries feel... &#039;&#039;uncomfortable&#039;&#039; (described as &#039;&#039;ticking&#039;&#039; by Kharn). Angron personally took this to eleven, hating psykers for the additional pain they brought - with the  strange exception of Lorgar &amp;amp; the Emperor, who seemed not to trigger that effect. Still, the whole Butcher&#039;s Nails thing is actually quite tragic (could the fact that even being parkers caused pain to everyone implanted with the nails indicate that they were not just archeotech, but technology corrupted by Khorne who hates psykers? And even the daemon primarch still has them implanted...all the implications). In &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot; Argel Tal asks Kharn why the World Eaters allowed themselves to be mutilated so, to which Kharn replies that they thought it would bring them closer to their father. Argel Tal continues asking if it worked, and Kharn sadly mutters to himself &amp;quot;no, it didn&#039;t&amp;quot;. So, before Erebus made sure that Kharn would become the RAAAAAAGE train we know in 40k by killing Argel Tal (in the same novel), because - as Erebus put it - his damned humanity would have spared Kharn this fate (because becoming a berzerk psychopathic killer is so much more awesome than staying sane) he appears to be regretting this decision - at least at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the Great Crusade, the World Eaters were known as the Imperium&#039;s butcher force. Their arrival or even just the threat of their arrival in a system was enough to make non-compliant Imperial worlds surrender, lest they be completely and utterly be butchered by the Red Angel and his sons - which only made it easier for the World Eaters to butcher them. Angron ordered his sons to complete every single conquest and compliance action in thirty-one hours, since he and his gladiator army had once destroyed an entire city on Nuceria in the same span of time. When and if they failed, he mocked them for being inadequate and ordered them to [[Perturabo|decimate themselves]], it apparently not having occurred to him that it&#039;s a little harder to take down an entire planet than it is one city, even if you are a Space Marine legion. Things were getting so bad that some of the World Eaters&#039; senior officers were considering going to the Emperor for help, at least until the Nails became a thing and they stopped caring about anything beyond RIP AND TEAR. One of them even talked back to Angron on the subject, which caused him to RAEG the fuck out and start killing his own sons again until some of the Librarians knocked him out.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:World Eaters.jpg|400px|thumb|right|Angron and his World Eaters, pre-heresy and pre-[[daemon prince]] in a rare state of tranquility standing on top of [[grimdark|a pile made of snow and dead bodies]]. It&#039;s hard to calm down when there&#039;s nails in your brain.]]&lt;br /&gt;
He also had a run in with [[Leman Russ]] at some point, just after the XII Legion started getting their brains Nailed. Russ came to Angron after having heard reports that the World Eaters were increasingly just bathing in blood, instead of bringing worlds to compliance. Angron wasn&#039;t as brain-damaged as he would be later, so he asked if Russ had come on order of the Emperor. Russ grudgingly had to admit he wasn&#039;t; this wasn&#039;t an execution ordered by the Emperor (yet) and he privately didn&#039;t want it to become one in the future. So he went on saying that implanting Angron&#039;s legionaries with the Nails had to stop and that they&#039;d be brought to Terra so a way of removing them could be devised (so he basically told Angron to sort his shit out and stop mutilating his sons). But we all know how good Russ is with people and generally &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;just liked throwing his weight around&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;. In more seriousness, this is one of the cases where Russ really, genuinely wanted to help one of his brothers, having had his own bouts with [[rage|irresistible murderous intent]] to deal with. His approach sadly [[fail|wasn&#039;t well thought out]]. Though to be fair Angron wasn&#039;t exactly diplomatic either, telling Russ that the Nails were the only thing that kept him going, that the EMPRA was just another slaver (and that bringing &amp;quot;compliance&amp;quot; to worlds was just a way of candycoating enslaving worlds which merely had wished to be left alone), and that without the Nails he might go to Big.E and chop &amp;quot;the slaving bastard&#039;s&amp;quot; head off. Ironically enough Angron had a solid point with the former argument, but the very suggestion of turning against Emps basically made Russ [[rage|lose what remained of his cool on the spot]] with the result one would expect.&lt;br /&gt;
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There was a brief skirmish between the two Legions (an event which would come to be known as the &amp;quot;Night of the Wolf&amp;quot;) where Angron fought Leman Russ in personal combat. He made him his personal bitch until he was outmaneuvered by the Space Wolves troops and surrounded, isolated from his World Eaters who were just like their father putting up one hell of a fight and hurt on the Wolves but being slowly separated and isolated from each other. Russ then tried to make his point a second time; that Angron&#039;s berzerker rage made him and his Legion lose sight of the larger tactical and strategic objectives and that Russ had lured him into a position where he would be killed. Angron refused to acknowledge his losing position since he was the one holding the weapon at his brother&#039;s throat and that killing EVERYONE should be the only objective anyway. Russ might be very well holding the proverbial gun to his temple, but it was only worth anything if he was willing to pull the trigger. Which at that point Russ wasn&#039;t, so Angron completely ignored him. Yet, surprisingly, Angron did not press his attack either and both Primarchs separated and went their own way. But, as time would show, the nails had a degrading effect on Angron&#039;s ability to hold back and remain coherent, so maybe that&#039;s your answer right there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron was certain of his victory that day and didn&#039;t give the incident any more thought, the Nails stayed with him and his Legion. In the end, though, Leman Russ was right: Angron&#039;s failure to learn and control his murderous rage would be amply demonstrated and only become worse with time. At the tail end of the Great Crusade when he butchered a whole city which had just surrendered, on Isstvan III when he sabotaged Horus&#039; clean [[Exterminatus]] by going down to rip the loyalists apart personally, and on Nuceria where he ordered every living being killed. But what’s truly sad is that Lorgar actually did seemingly succeed where Russ had failed in teaching the lesson of the Night of the Wolf years later, and on their way to Nuceria, during Angron’s last weeks as a human, he actually seemed to be trying to open himself up a little more to his legion by joining them in watching pit fights and hanging out with them during feasts, all of which was rendered too little too late by what went down when they reached their destination.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Horus Heresy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Daemon-Angron HHST.png|400px|thumb|right|Angron during the [[Siege of Terra]], about to give the defenders a very bad day]]&lt;br /&gt;
On which note, Angron kicked off his contribution to the Heresy in a way that had Horus&#039; lieutenants suggest killing him. When the firestorm on Isstvan died down, it became apparent that large numbers of Loyalists had survived. Said survivors immediately hit the vox-casters and began demanding answers/hurling insults up at the orbiting fleet, outraged and grief stricken that they had been betrayed by their own Primarchs. Hearing the howled insults of his own Loyalist World Eaters, Angron flew into a rage and ordered his legion to deploy onto the planet. This meant that Horus couldn&#039;t just bombard the city again, and committed the Traitors to fighting a long, brutal campaign which delayed them and sapped their numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
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He was much handier on Isstvan V, wreaking all sorts of carnage in the [[Dropsite Massacre]]. He stayed behind to hunt down the surviving Raven Guard who&#039;d escaped with their Primarch, and would have massacred them if not for their reserves rocking up from Deliverance.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lorgar then roped Angron into his Shadow Crusade, systematically butchering worlds across Ultramar to invoke the Ruinstorm. Initially, this was a campaign with mixed success: the two Legions nearly fought in the void before an Eldar fleet tried to destroy Angron, and the World Eaters wiped out several worlds which Lorgar had wanted to skip. The Word Bearers were nearly driven to despair by the World Eaters&#039; degradation, and Lorgar began to worry that Angron couldn&#039;t see how he was degenerating - and there was only one way that could end. Still, Lorgar wanted to save Angron, although in his case &amp;quot;save&amp;quot; meant &amp;quot;transfigure into a daemon Primarch&amp;quot;. Angron was, according to Horus and Lorgar, the only Primarch (beside Horus himself) that would be able to successfully take on and beat Sanguinius in full rage mode. To do that, Lorgar led Angron back to his shitty home planet [[Nuceria]] where Angron went into a deep depression after witness the tragic aftermath of his rebellion. And that lasted until he had the misfortune to be told he had fled that final battle, which made him go completely berserk, ordering his legion to slaughter every fucking thing on the planet faster than an [[Exterminatus|inquisitoral cyclonic torpedoes bombardment]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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The arrival of Guilliman&#039;s forces delayed its inevitable doom for a little while, and Angron had an epic showdown with [[Roboute Guilliman]] when he helped [[Lorgar]] fighting big boy blue. Guilliman called Angron out to which the Red Angel replied as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?&amp;quot; [...] &amp;quot;The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Guilliman ended up getting beaten so badly he had to crawl away on hands and knees, but not before throwing back:&lt;br /&gt;
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The irony is Angron was right all along about Emperor being a dick, as Roboute realized on Terra ten thousand years later. But in all seriousness, both of them had a point. Guilliman had it really easy and could have turned out massively different had his life not been so cushy, while Angron&#039;s rage over &#039;&#039;his&#039;&#039; admittedly-shitty life had consumed his soul and didn&#039;t exactly let him off the hook for turning his entire legion into murder machines.&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, during their duel Guilliman shattered one of the skulls that Angron had carried on him, which were the remains of the rebels Angron had carried with him (and whom he had promised to die alongside with... until the EMPRA abducted him. Angron himself said to Lorgar in &amp;quot;Betrayer&amp;quot; that he died on Nuceria), which obviously drove Angron to an entire new level of despair, allowing for Lorgar to capitalize on that emotion to fuel Angron&#039;s ascension into a daemon primarch. There were even 19 World Eater librarians, that had tried to prevent their primarch&#039;s ascension forming a gestalt warhound, pulling Angron&#039;s soul from one end, while Lorgar as well as some daemons pulled at it from the other, like children fighting over a doll. In the end, Lorgar - being the more powerful psyker -  defeated the librarians, and turned Angron into the Daemon Primarch we all know and love. Guilliman ended up suffering a grievous wound, but escaped the planet, which was rendered devoid of all life by the World Eaters, and had its records erased by the Imperium of Man.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that one or two battles beforehand a Warhound Scout Titan tried to step on Lorgar after the Aurelian had taken two discharges of the the titan&#039;s main plasma weapon and was badly hurt (to the point of almost being mortally wounded) in the process. Angron stepped in to save his brother, catching the titan&#039;s foot and setting a new world record in squat weightlifting, keeping the titans weight suspended above himself through his sheer strength and RAGE, enabling Lorgar - who was almost dead at this point - to escape. And this was after digging his way up through 200+ feet of solid debris, after being warned by WE Librarians he had been digging &#039;downwards&#039;, and with Lorgar teleporting from orbit to help excavating the XIIth Primach (while Lorgar simultaneously destroyed several Ultramarine Thunderhawks with telekinetically hurled building debris which Angron had been buried under). Of course, after this the relationship between the two primarchs became pretty remarkable, and Lorgar ended up repaying the favor by arranging for Angron&#039;s ascension to daemonhood during their fight with Guilliman. At first Lorgar thought that Guilliman was ruining the &amp;quot;song&amp;quot; and finally understood that Guilliman had never hated or looked down on him until the Heresy (and the destruction of Calth) - actually distracting Lorgar for a moment as he realized that he had misunderstood his brother all along - At the end though, when Guilliman was about to gain the upper hand Angron emerged and engaged the XIII Primarch. At this very moment (topped off by Guilliman stepping on one of the aforementioned skulls) the &amp;quot;song&amp;quot; fell back in tune, and Lorgar could finish the incantation.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Angron&#039;s ascension, he was even more the uncontrollable rage monster that he had always been and still hacked his way through the occasional officer that got on the wrong side of him. So the World Eaters locked him up on his flagship while they wondered what to do with him, which caused all the sorts of changes you&#039;d expect by locking a roaring daemon up in the basement. Kharn visited his father during a lucid moment to try and get some sense out of him, having to remind his father of the red sands of Deshea and the gladiator he used to be. But Angron had already lost so much of his sense of self to [[Khorne]] that he did not even recognise the Legion as his own anymore, warning Kharn that the only way to continue serving him was to follow him down the same path. What&#039;s more was that as a daemon-Primarch, his grasp on reality was tenuous so the legion could only continue to keep their father in constant combat to ensure that he remained with them, forcing them to divert their forces towards literally any inhabited system to continue fighting and keeping the flow of blood going. Kharn &#039;&#039;(and presumably the rest of the legion)&#039;&#039; start losing themselves soon after.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Angrondemon.jpg|300px|thumb|Even in daemonhood, they &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; can&#039;t get the Nails out. Fucking Archeotech was built to &#039;&#039;last&#039;&#039;!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Angron has done far more shit than all the other Daemon Primarchs put together. Instead of [[Fulgrim|sitting around being a painting on some Chaos God&#039;s wall]], [[Mortarion|sitting around while being a rotting fatass and feeling sorry for themselves]], [[Magnus the Red|sitting around and yelling just as planned anytime anything happens]], [[Lorgar|sitting around and preaching constantly]], [[Horus|being]] [[Alpharius|(Maybe)]] [[Konrad Curze|dead]], or [[Primarch#Two Missing Primarchs|being missing]]; Angron actually gets shit done and boy howdy when he [[rage|rages]] his way out of the eye of terror he makes sure that everyone knows about it...by tearing &#039;&#039;everything&#039;&#039; that gets in his way a new one until he finally gets thrown back into the warp by drowning in a quadrillion metric fucktons of [[Imperial Guard|Imperial Guardsmen]], [[Planetary Defense Force | Planetary Defense Force soldiers]], [[Space Marines|Spehss Mehreens]], [[Witch Hunters]], [[Sisters of Battle|Bolter Bitches]], [[Titan|Titans]], [[Stormtrooper|Inquisitorial Stormtroopers]], [[Daemonhunters]], and [[Grey Knights]], but to be fair, everyone kind of does that when the Imperium &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;finishes the paperwork needed to&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; retaliates. &lt;br /&gt;
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This was of course before The Gathering Storm, whereupon Magnus personally attacked [[Fenris]] and laid waste to much of the planet and destroyed a lot of gene-seed, proving that [[Tzeentch]] can get shit done too. Then in 8th edition Mortarion waged [[Plague Wars]] against [[Ultramar]] and established the [[Scourge Stars]] systems in M42. Also it should be noted that Fulgrim has been free of that painting for a while now, but otherwise he still fits in the above category.&lt;br /&gt;
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He also slaughtered his way throughout Imperial Space for over a century with 50,000 World Eater [[Berserker]]s and destroyed/maimed/killed/burned/broke the backs of/split open/fucked 70 sectors. However, in a subsequent Imperial offensive, Angron was banished to the warp and his men routed. This strike force comprised 2 Titan Legions, &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; 4 full Spess Mehreen chapters and over 30 Imperial Guard regiments to do that, so it&#039;s suffice to say that the counterattack put up quite a fight against the superior force. But to be fair, Angron&#039;s force was only comprised of close combat heavy infantry without ranged support or artillery. Later on, he showed up with an even bigger force to attack Armageddon. The Imperium responded in kind, sending in one hundred [[Grey Knights|Grey Knight Terminators]], and all but ten of them died fighting Angron and his Bloodthirster posse(and only because their prodigy Librarian Hyperion managed to shatter his sword, and he STILL managed to murder their leader with just his bare fists). He is armed with a really huge fucking chainaxe that&#039;s taller than him with chainswords for the chainteeth of the chainaxe. He&#039;s also got a stormbolter, but we wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that fired chainswords as well. Fittingly enough, it was called &#039;Godtearer&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==In video games==&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, he has appeared in only one of the official games, which greatly displeases [[Khorne]]. However, in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for [[Dawn of War]], he takes the place of the Chaos Daemons&#039; &amp;quot;game-ending win button&amp;quot; unit - and he&#039;s a walking rapetrain that can [[Awesome|obliterate buildings with a single hit, take out Titans in three, make himself invincible, and summon a retinue of Bloodthirsters]]. He can also be almost unkillable by exploiting a bug which lets him instantly refill his morale, which gives him disturbingly fast health regeneration. Too bad you&#039;ll almost never use him. He costs so many relic points in an army that consumes them like candy that, if you can spare the points and time to conjure him, chances are you&#039;re already winning so badly you don&#039;t actually need him. Seriously, for the same number of points it takes to conjure Angron you could just build 5-6 Helldrakes or an equal amount of Bloodthirsters, and keep in mind Chaos Daemons need the same resource for anything greater than lesser Daemons. If you&#039;re not spending them on other units you need &#039;&#039;right now&#039;&#039; then you can just overwhelm them with what you already have. Essentially the definition of &amp;quot;awesome but impractical&amp;quot;, but sweet jesus is it truly awesome to watch.&lt;br /&gt;
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Angron shows up in the Horus Heresy:Legions card game, being one of the best warlords, and keeping in with his character he has to attack every turn.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On the tabletop==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Angaron.jpg|300px|right|thumb|WHY IS HE BEATING UP HIS OWN LEGION said everyone on Isstvan III. Proof that Angron was actually a Loyalist Primarch. Don&#039;t believe the Chaos Lies!]] &lt;br /&gt;
Obviously one of the strongest Primarchs in the game when it comes to close combat, aside from his stats Angron has a 3+ armor (weak for a demigod), 4+ invulnerable, FNP (the full rule since the 02/11/2019 errata) the Primarch rule and Hatred, so he gets to re-roll to-hit rolls on the first turn of any combat, while also having Armourbane and dealing Instant Death on to wound roll of 6, in case S8-9 doesn&#039;t instagib anything right away. Thanks to the Butcher&#039;s Nails he will gain 1 bonus attack (up to 10) for every Independent Character or Infantry unit he kills/destroys in close combat (But he must be the one to give the fatal blow/remove the last model to pick up this bonus) and he can also challenge as many times as there are Independent Characters and units in combat with him thanks to the Red Sands rule, assuring he will at least pick up some extra attacks during the course of the game. &lt;br /&gt;
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The obvious downsides are that, aside from butchering things in melee, Angron cannot do anything: he doesn&#039;t buff his army in any way aside 12&amp;quot; aura of Fearless, while other Primarchs bestow significant buffs to their armies, and of course he is one of the (if not THE) most fragile of the Primarchs, having only 5 wounds and 3+/4++. Having FNP 5+ doesn&#039;t fully compensate against mass fire but makes him actually more resilient than most of his brothers against AP2 attacks. So all in all he&#039;s much like Kharn on steroids: you reach melee - you&#039;re king, you get your transport blown up and then get kited across the table - you&#039;re fucked. The other problem he shares with Kharn is that he tends to annihilate anything he charges in one phase either through sweeping advance or just by killing everyone outright, which leaves him vulnerable to enemy fire afterwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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Honestly, he&#039;s not worth it. Between his fragility, low mobility, and lack of army bonuses, he&#039;s a tricky Primarch to use. Unfortunate considering his badass fluff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===40k===&lt;br /&gt;
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He had stats from an old issue of [[White Dwarf]], and though they might seem disappointing, especially in comparison to his Primarch form (it&#039;s barely an upgrade), his stats alone don&#039;t tell you everything.&lt;br /&gt;
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For starters, he has additional rules such as Furious Charge (to make him S8), he has Iron Hide (keeping his power armour save), the Roar of Hate rule to reduce the Leadership of enemies by 1, and his Daemon rule made his Invuln as strong as when he relied on armour. The real boost to him however is the fact that he&#039;s a Flying Monstrous Creature now (although in the edition he came out it just gave him 12&amp;quot; movement instead), effectively keeping his Armourbane and AP2, and it fixes his movement issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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The real boost to his old self is his weapon, Angron&#039;s Black Blade, and with it in hand it&#039;s no wonder Gorefather and Gorechild became hand-me-downs. This is a Master-crafted weapon that gives all of his attacks the Instant Death rule. All this combined he makes [[Abaddon]] the Despoiler and [[Mephiston]] look like total pussies, but you have to get him a bodyguard of at least 2-12 [[Bloodthirster|bloodthirsters]], which effectively racks up his point cost to over 1300 at the least, but there&#039;s nothing in the game that survive a charge from him and his bodyguards.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Angron VS other Primarchs:==&lt;br /&gt;
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Primarch fighting, while fun to see, isn&#039;t a very competitive thing to do as it&#039;ll usually tie up both Primarchs for the entire game without either of them dying (But with Angron this is less likely as you&#039;re going to die or kill fast!), with that in mind this section is about how Angron fares against other Primarchs Mathhammer wise. Please note that all the various abilities are taken into accounts when possible and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron&#039;s &amp;quot;The Butcher&#039;s Nails&amp;quot; and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. The fights are supposed to be in a vacuum for simplicity (So no Furious Charge for our hero...), but notes are added to make things clearer in particular instances. Also all of the Primarchs use their most powerful weapons (because why have a contest if you don&#039;t do your best?)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Horus&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus turn 1 &amp;amp; 2: hits 3 times, wounds 2.667 times, 0.888 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.555 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Horus (with Angron wounded twice): hits 3.999 times, wounds 3.555 times, causes 1.185 wounds after saves &amp;amp; FNP, taken to 0.851 with IWND at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Wounded: hits 3 times, wounds 1.999 times, 0.666 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Despite a good showing in the first round; when factoring in Disabling Strike the whole thing becomes academic; Horus overtakes Angron in damage capacity after one wound (&amp;lt;2 turns) and quickly beats Angron to a pulp as Angron continues to flail feebly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Fulgrim&lt;br /&gt;
**Fulgrim hits 3.5 times, wounds 2.333 times (2.722 times if his warlord trait is Child of Terra), 1.166 (1.361) times after saves, 0.971 (1.134) after Feel No Pain (remember that half of the attacks that wound cause Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.638 (0.801) wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**A really close fight: Angron does marginally more damage if Fulgrim doesn&#039;t chose Child of Terra as his Warlord Trait. With Child of Terra it becomes a battle of attrition that Angron will eventually lose. If Angron gets blinded at any point due to Fulgrim&#039;s Gilded Panoply it puts him at a disadvantage he likely wont recover from.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Ferrus&lt;br /&gt;
**Ferrus hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Thanks to his upgraded Feel No Pain, Angron can tank more than Ferrus can, resulting in a win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Konrad Curze&lt;br /&gt;
**Curze hits 3 times, wounds 2.25 times, 0.750 wounds after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron easily wins, doing a lot more damage and receiving less in turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Curze can Hit &amp;amp; Run, but by doing so he would only gain one more attack, while allowing Angron to reset his Hatred, thus actually making himself die even faster. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Vulkan&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 wounds after saves (ID Negates FNP) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.63.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.889 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Vulkan wins (barely). This fight is actually much closer what the simplified maths suggest. Since IWND only comes into affect on the controlling players turn &#039;&#039;(two rounds of combat)&#039;&#039; Each combatant gets their damage output twice before IWND kicks in, so Vulkan&#039;s legendary endurance nearly fails him by the second bout of combat on turn four, possibly resulting in a mutual kill.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Mortarion&lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion hits 2.5 times, wounds 1.666 times, 0.833 times after saves (no FNP due to Instant Death) and IWND will take that down to 0.5 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Mortarion loses. Despite having the same reroll on IWND and doing the same damage per turn as Vulkan; even with one extra wound Mortarion&#039;s poorer save allows Angron to take him down more quickly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Lorgar &lt;br /&gt;
**Lorgar hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.083 times, 0.694 after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that to 0.361 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4 times, wounds 3.111 times, 1.555 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.222.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins pretty easily.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: against Lorgar Transfigured with Precognition Lorgar wins (Not as easily as the old version, but is still a monster).&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Perturabo&lt;br /&gt;
**Perturabo hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.555 wounds after saves and FNP, then IWND will take that down to 0.222 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 1.48 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.148.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.111 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.778 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: in the turn after Perturabo actually wounds Angron (69% per round) he will most probably be blinded and then hammered to death. So if he can&#039;t kill him before that he is actually dead meat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Alpharius&lt;br /&gt;
**Alpharius hits 2.917 times, wounds 1.7 times, 0.85 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.517 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.889.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**As with Vulkan, Angron can&#039;t use FNP in this fight due to the Pale Spear&#039;s Instant Death, but he still easily takes the win.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Rogal Dorn&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn hits 2 times, wounds 1.5 times, 0.499 wounds after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.167 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Dorn (Sundering Blow) hits once, wounds 0.972 times, 0.486 wounds after saves (No FNP due to Instant Death), taken to 0.152 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.777 after saves, and IWND take it down to 1.444.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4 times, wounds 2.667 times, 1.333 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**This is probably Angron&#039;s easiest fight.&lt;br /&gt;
**Note: Sundering Blow cancels out Feel No Pain so it was worth calculating. Turns out it makes no difference here; Dorn has too few attacks to make a difference either way.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Corvus Corax&lt;br /&gt;
**Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), 0.999 wounds (Scourge)/0.750 wounds (Shadow-walk) after saves and FNP and IWND will take that down to 0.666/0.417 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333/4.5 times, wounds 4.444/3.75 times, 2.963/2.5 after saves, and IWND take it down to 2.63/2.167.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and thereafter: hits 4/3 times, wounds 3.333/2.5 times, 2.222/1.667 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.889/1.333 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron wins really easily as Corax is simply too frail for him. &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: differently from Curze, Corax would actually have the edge on the charge thanks to his Sire of the Raven Guard rule and his Hammer of Wrath/dual Archeotech Pistols. Also in a turn in which blind goes off he could have the advantage of Shadow-walk and scourge at the same times (plus more, &#039;cause he would hit on 3s). A tough fight, but more on his style and it could make him win in extremis.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Roboute Guilliman&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: Angron has Hatred, so on the first turn he will hits 5.333 times, wounds 4.444 times, 2.222 after saves, 1.972 after Armour of Reason re-roll and IWND take it down to 1.639.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves, 1.417 after re-roll and IWND will take that down to 1.084 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 3 and thereafter: Angron hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, 1.25 after saves and 1 after re-roll. Then IWND take it down to 0.667. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 1/2/3: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.741 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn. &lt;br /&gt;
**Guilliman Round 4 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 0.987 times after saves and FNP, and IWND will take that down to 0.654 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Unsurprisingly, Guilliman loses this fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron vs Magnus&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron first round: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times and 1.875 after saves which IWND will take down to 1.542 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron second round: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times and 1.25 after saves which IWND will take down to 0.917 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Magnus: hits twice, wounds 1.667 times, reducing to 0.557 after saves &amp;amp; FNP. Then IWND will take down to 0.222 at the start of next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Magnus (using Force): hits twice, wounds 1.667, reduces to 0.834 after saves. IWND brings this to 0.5 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Psychic powers normally don&#039;t get included in the PvP breakdowns, but Magnus is the only one with a Force Weapon so it was worth mentioning. Either way you look at it, Magnus loses this one pretty badly. Things would obviously be different if other powers were included.&lt;br /&gt;
**As with psychic powers in general in 30k, this fight is really swingy based on what powers Magnus takes. If he can roll Iron arm and Warp speed with a power left to generate then he could take Prescience to actually gain a decent chance of winning. At the same time he could also have a tough time in power generation and get squished.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Angron VS Leman Russ&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: Angron has Hatred and is hitting on a 5+, so he hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.778 times, invul save brings it down to 1.389 and IWND brings it to 1.056 wounds.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2 and on: Angron is hitting on 5s, so hits 2 times, wounds 1.666 times, saves brings it down to .833 and IWND brings it 0.5&lt;br /&gt;
**Leman hits Angron 3.214 times, wounds 2.678 times, save brings it down to 1.339, FNP brings it 0.892 and IWND brings it down 0.559&lt;br /&gt;
**As expected Angron loses this fight. Angron puts up a reasonable fight but the wolf king is just much for him.&lt;br /&gt;
**TLDR: Without the Sword of Balelight, the fight is very close. Sword of Balelight is pretty busted.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron VS Jaghatai&lt;br /&gt;
**Jaghatai (on Bike) hits 4 times, wounds 2 times, 1 wounds after saves and FNP will take that down to 0.666 and IWND will take that down to 0.333&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 5.333 times, wounds 3.555 times, 1.185 wounds after saves, and IWND take it down to 0.852 at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 2: hits 4 times, wounds 2.666 times, 0.888 wounds after saves, IWND will take that down to 0.556 wounds at the start of the next turn.&lt;br /&gt;
**Angrons wins, and if Jaghatai uses hit-and-run he&#039;ll get destroyed even faster.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Angron vs Sanguinius&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius charging: hits 4 times (3.5 times with Blade Encarmine), wounds 3.999 times (double wounds taken into account) (3.111 with Encarmine), becomes 1.999 (1.037 with Encarmine &amp;amp; FNP) after saves&lt;br /&gt;
***Sanguinius Hammer of Wrath: 1 autohit, wounds 0.833 times, becomes 0.277 after saves and FNP. &lt;br /&gt;
***Total combined damage on charge 2.276 (1.314), taken to 1.944 (0.981) next turn with IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Sanguinius thereafter: hits 3.5 times (3 times with Blade Encarmine), wounds 2.333 times (double wounds taken into account)(2.666 with Encarmine), taken to 1.166 after saves (0.888 with Encarmine + FNP), taken to 0.8333 (0.555) next turn with IWND&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron Round 1: hits 4.5 times, wounds 3.75 times, becomes 1.875 after saves (0.938 if Sanguinius charged). IWND takes it to 1.54 (0.604) next turn&lt;br /&gt;
**Angron thereafter: hits 3 times, wounds 2.5 times, becomes 1.25 after saves and IWND takes it to 0.917 next turn&lt;br /&gt;
***There is a lot going on with this fight depending on what Sanguinius is doing. With the Spear of Telesto, from a standing start or if Angron charges there is a mutual kill by about the fifth bout of combat. If Sanguinius can get the charge he wins. &lt;br /&gt;
***With the Blade Encarmine there is a close mutual kill if Sanguinius charges, but Angron wins from a standing start or if he charges. Feel No Pain really makes the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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* TLDR version: Despite being mocked for &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; having 3+/4++ in saves and fewer wounds than everyone but Lorgar (or Corax on a bad day), Angron is surprisingly resilient thanks to his FNP(5+). He will outpace most opponents thanks to his high number of attacks and good WS, so those who can&#039;t match his output turn-for-turn can only hope to outlast him. Angron is pretty vulnerable to Strikedown, Concussive, Blind, and basically any rule which reduces his ability to hit things &#039;&#039;(eg: Horus &amp;amp; Russ)&#039;&#039;, all of which will severely cripple his overall damage potential. Keep in mind, as mentioned above, this is without any benefits from his The Butcher&#039;s Nails rule. With his attacks maxed out he can destroy almost any other Primarch (even Lorgar with Precognition, though it is damn close) with the exception of a few like Russ and...yeah, you guessed it right: Horus! Although he will surely put a dent even in the Warmaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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In case you&#039;re wondering, Angron&#039;s mortal form defeats his Daemon form, mainly because his Daemon form was made before IWND became a thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Past-Angron.jpg| Doomguy called he wants his training uniform back, and he wants your head with it.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron.jpg|Can [[Anime|Vegeta]] say what his power level is?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron Butchers Nails.jpg|Angron before Daemonhood. The only real difference is a lack of wings.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Aerion&#039;s Angron.jpg|Angron portrayed in his natural state: PISSED THE FUCK OFF!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Angron by alexboca-d7930i6.jpg|Angron just generally being a boss (and looking absolutely goddamn awesome while doing so). And you call the epic ness that he wears &amp;quot;3+&amp;quot; greatly displeases khorne and teh emprah&lt;br /&gt;
File:angron_is_for_angry_by_sunradio-d6oferw.jpg|Daemon Primarch Angron at the final battle of the First war of Armageddon.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Happy angron.jpg|Angron can be happy too!&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPVNaKvODw&amp;amp;t=0s| They hit him with a truck!]&lt;br /&gt;
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