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==A Bad Beginning== From its opening Age of Sigmar was doomed to have a rocky start. It had fans who were more than [[butthurt|a little mad]] that their entire universe had just been squatted, so to draw them in GW would need something great, a game system that paid tribute to the Old World while still paving the way for this new setting. [[FAIL|To say they didn't do that would be a massive understatement.]] When AoS opened it had a small pamphlet of rules that would apply to all the armies, and while a lot of people enjoyed how it cut down the massive rulebooks of the past, a lot of tactical nuance was lost in the process. This wasn't helped when a lot of the actual army rules were written as if it was supposed to be a joke, being more at home in something like Munchkin than in a serious setting. The rules also lacked any sort of points values or balancing mechanic, leading to many games that were laughably one-sided with no way of preventing this from happening. This was further compounded by the new posterboys and very first new release of the setting who were AoS's equivalents to Space Marines, ostensibly done to show the new tone, visual aesthetic and direction of the setting, but they didn't initially resonate with the veterans of WHFB because they were so different to anything that was in the old setting. By using something new to demonstrate a new system they ended up alienating the fans of the old system, that and people just couldn't get behind the new names like the "Bloodsecrator". If the setting had opened with something safe like Empire fighting Orcs with the mentions of the new guys in the background, and then have them helm a new box set later it would have made for an easier transition. Unfortunately the writers at the time made it clear that they didn't care much for the material they were working on, and even showed contempt for their own fanbase, which further stoked nerd rage. On top of all of this, three entire WHFB faction were deleted from the rules, rendering the armies many veteran players collected obsolete in the new game. With all this in mind, going from one newly destroyed setting to the other was like jumping from a hot tub into ice-water and many were turned away by the prospect, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plUPJ0inN4c some to a Khornate extent.] The community from Fantasy was split between those who followed through into Age of Sigmar, and those who responded to End Times metaphorically burning the bridge by simply refusing to cross and remaining Fantasy players who do not acknowledge Age as a successor. Animosity has ebbed and flowed between the two communities. <div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> '''Some terms that cultured fantasy fans have coined to refer to Age include:''' <div class="mw-collapsible-content"> * Nuhammer * Age Of Shitmar * Age of Shit * Age Of Shillmar * Age of Sugmar * Ugh Of Sigmar * Skirmishhammer * Groundmarine 40k * Goldmarine * Sigmar and Friends * Sigmarines vs Rob Liefeld's Chaos Warriors (guest starring WFB special characters) * Warhammer Lite * Fucking Bullshit * Testicular Cancer: The Wargame * Skub: The Wargame * Age Of Smegma * Age of Slopmar * Sigmar's Big Day Out * Age Of Skubmar * Warhammer 40k: In Fantasy! * Age Of Sigmarines * Skubhammer 40k * Age Of Houserules * Warhammer: New Coke * SPACE MARINES OOOOON THEEEE GROUUUUUUUUND! * Why You Should Never Feel Bad Buying Chinese Recasts * EA Games Presents: Warhammer * Why We Can't Have Nice Things * The Pinnacle of Soullessness </div> </div> This goes both ways (usually thanks to the same people), and Age players also have terms to refer to Fantasy players. <div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> '''These include:''' <div class="mw-collapsible-content"> * Grognards * Those Oldfags (But Not In A Good Way) * [[Potato#As A Meme|Potatosacks]] </div> </div> If you come across anyone using any of those terms at this point it's genuinely considered a sign to stop talking to them, the chances you'll be happy when that discussion's over are less than <del>GW deciding to revive WHFB.</del> something very unlikely.
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