Editing Warhammer Meta-Setting (section)

=== 40k goes through the same cycles as fantasy, but internally===

Stop me if You've heard this before. [[Sigmar| There was an human]] [[God-Emperor of Mankind|ruler who would be worshiped as a god]], who created a [[Imperium of Man|mighty]] [[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)|empire]], but then the ruler was [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sigmar#Abdication trapped]/[https://1d4chan.org/wiki/File:God-Emperor_Goldlich.jpg crippled by chaos]. Without the ruler the man's empire had good times, and bad times, but slowly slide backwards into darkness. Then there is [[The End Times|a big battle]] [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Cadia#The_Fall_of_Cadia with chaos], the empire loses, a planet is destroyed and [[Great Rift|chaos]] [https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar#The_Age_of_Chaos spreads]. To fight Chaos a [[Sigmar|great]] [[Roboute Guilliman|hero]] thought gone returns, and creates a [[Primaris Marines| new type]] of [[Stormcast Eternals|soldier]] to fight Chaos as he leads the nation back to it's former glory.

As George Lucas said: ''"It's like poetry... It rhymes."'' The plot points and exact details are hardly 1:1 but they do rhyme at least. 40k definitely experiences cycles similar to fantasy, in fact if one looks closely enough one could probably postulate that the rise of the Emperor himself marks the closing of one cycle, the [[Dark Age of Technology]] and the start of cycle/age of the Imperium which spans from [[Great Crusade|M31]]-[[Age of the Dark Imperium|M42]]. In M42 though Guilliman rise marks the close of the Imperial cycle and the start of a new one. The only difference is with so many more planets, they can afford to have a few ([[grimdark|hundred]]) blown up or lost to mark the change from one cycle to the next without the galaxy going suffering from a divide by zero function.

The [[Horus Heresy]] novels ''Vengeful Spirit'' and ''Wolfsbane'' seem to have the Warp run on Fantasy rules, with Big E and Horus going to Age of Sigmar-style mortal realms that just seem to exist in the Warp alongside the realms of Chaos. Both built an army of mortal followers before discarding them under unknown contexts.

However considering Slaanesh was born in 40k (while in Fantasy it merely...existed) this could indicate the 40k universe to be the first in the cycle (or at least precede Fantasy and AoS) or Fantasy/AoS takes place sometime after the birth of Slaanesh in some corner of the Warp. Alternatively, 40k which is stated to take place in our far future is separate to the Fantasy/AoS universe but connected by the Warp.

Rise of Ynnari sort of retcons the War in Heaven to make it closer to the Coming of Chaos in Fantasy. Chaos Daemons were a huge threat during that conflict forcing the Eldar Empire to ally with certain Necron Dynasties just to fight back (definitely not permanently though).

The Parallels between the Vortex and the Pylons become more apparent after the Great Rift. Also the birth of Slaanesh is only relevant to the material world as time is essentially nothing to the Chaos Realm, applying the existence of Slaanesh retroactively.

If the connected by the Warp assumption is correct, the Old Ones presumably used Mallus, formed by the survivors of the Proto-Cycle who ascended to godhood, as a testing ground for anti-Chaos measures and were forced to abandon it during the War in Heaven while the Slann and the survivors were left alone. They held out until the End Times and Dracothion rebuilt the realms in such a way that Chaos cannot permanently kill them, while the Slann and the Mallus survivors who ascended to godhood can at least guarantee an eternal stalemate like with 40k, giving the Chaos Gods permanent sustenance in an extremely fucked up symbiosis of mutual eternal survival, [[Grimdark|while the mortals suffer]].
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