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==Skub Containment Zone== {{skubby}} The following are too [[skub]]by to be included in the main lists. Note that inclusion in this list is not about quality, but rather controversy: A sufficiently large group dislikes them that it can be safely said that they fall very firmly under a "Love or Hate" status, and invariably edit wars start when they are mentioned. Either way, they're directly /tg/ relevant, and they come up on /tg/, so we're listing them here anyway. In other words: You may not like the following, based on how many people don't.<ref>If you've ever played Toe Jam & Earl 2: Panic on Funkotron, you may now play "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNHDzqsnfVM Hyper-skub zone]" in your head.</ref> ===[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChS9wazLlTUHSTeKVG39hZw Arch (formerly Arch Warhammer)]=== Arch (formerly Arch Warhammer) makes Warhammer 40k and Horus Heresy lore videos, both in general format ("Who are the [[Mortifactors]]" "What is a [[Titan_(Warhammer_40,000)|Titan]]?") and longer, multi-video works ("What was the [[Badab War]]?" "What was the The Siege of [[Vraks]]?"). Also covers video games, especially Warhammer video games, as well as occasionally dipping into [[Edgy|edgelordery]], [[/pol/]][[Fail|itics, general controversy, and drama]]. Is generally considered the living avatar of [[Skub]] due to multiple controversies not detailed here;<ref>Except for the only bit that's possibly amusing to an outsider: His unofficial sub[[reddit]] mod team was taken over by his detractors, and turned into a [https://www.reddit.com/r/ArchWarhammer/ subreddit about Warhammer architecture].</ref> if you wish to know more, don't worry, ''someone'' will probably tell you. <!-- We don't need to cover the details. Don't add them, as that would just invite another edit war. --> ===[https://www.youtube.com/@CommissarGamza Commissar Gamza (Gamza)]=== Where to begin with [[That Guy]]? Whereas Arch may have the pretense of intellectual reasoning or at least some irony to cover for his skub, Gamza has little to no such inclination. Originally starting out as a 40k painting and DIY terrain channel, he later jumped into more confrontational subject matter directed towards GW and the Warhammer Community at large. However, his hate boner for GW eventually started to go beyond reasonable criticism and frustration, and more into outright stoking drama for clickbait and outrage. More so, his "sense of humor" began to slip into a more un-ironic, cringey and self deluded nature. So much so that when he got into a spat with Majorkill in 2020 about the state of Grimdark in 40k as a setting, he ended up deleting whole swathes of his channel's videos, virtually all of his clickbait rants and argument responses. [[EPIC FAIL|Tried and failed to rebrand his channel as an edgy streamer, but was too fugly and toxic]], to the point that most [[/tg/|Fa/tg/uys]] would cringe. Eventually came back in late 2021 as a 40k channel, focusing primarily on 3d printing and dipping back into his usual GW rage [[bait]]. ===[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFI3kfmevIHBNZlXYi0Y-zm7b2lrDWlfN Counter Monkey] (Noah Antwiler, aka The Spoony One) === We have an [[Counter Monkey|article on him already]]. Go read that for the details. ===[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTRMzE8VJ4WH1F8kKdbYlzw Norn Queen Alexis]=== <!-- Known for being deleted by vandals and trolls. If this occurs without discussion and agreement to do so, revert. --> A female WH40k poster; if you've heard of her, it's probably because she voiced [[Miriael Sabathiel]] in [[TTS]]. Has videos about Tactic, battle reports, reviews and reactions, mostly based around Sisters of Battle. So, why is she here? Well, she's the type that claims to promote a "LGBTQA+ and Women friendly atmosphere", which means that the [[SJW |usual]] [[/pol/ |suspects]] are in the usual forever war about her. Add in some controversy about her former association with Games Workshop we're not going to get into here, and you have a prime candidate for High Skubbery, regardless of the quality of her content. On September 2021, she gained controversy for having doxxed a Games Workshop employee who had sent her an image showing a GW NDA page, and reporting them to Games Workshop. She also had an argument with one of the first people addressing the NDA situation; claiming he baited her. She has since deleted her Twitter due to the negative reaction and has even started deleting comments on her latest Youtube video that even mentions the doxxing. Despite declaring she was LANCB to the 40K community in the aftermath of this controversy, it swiftly proved to be little more than a flounce as she began posting 40k videos two months later. ===[https://www.youtube.com/user/OneMindSyndicate OneMindSyndicate]=== OneMindSyndicate (abbreviated OMS) exclusively covers 40k lore. However, they are disliked due to doing so in the most monotonous way possible, making even normies cringe from sheer boredom, and they quote too much from the source material making it less digestable. If you want dry, matter-of-fact lore coverage with no originality, this is the place - and yes, there is already an audience for that, if their sub count is any indication.<ref>The existence of Wikifags also proves there is an audience, since many of the issues with the Wikia are the same as those in OMS's videos.</ref> ===[https://www.youtube.com/@TheOuterCircle (The) Outer Circle]=== The third of the three P's of Warhammer video channels, with Arch being Pretentious and Gamza being Petulant, Outer Circle falls quite well into the Pedantic category. An Australian channel that has an emphasis on Horus Heresy topics, including tactics, list building, and visual style. His ranting and meandering commentary videos are filled to the brim with nitpicking bitterness, going on numerous tangents about the state of the hobby or styles not matching up to the point of ad nauseam. While his attention to detail and certain commentaries on lore and visuals has some merit, it tends to be undermined by his overall attitude and presentation. When he started making videos whining about comments on his Warhammer videos, it began to be a bit sad to watch. ===[https://www.youtube.com/user/galiant609 StringStorm]=== Made music for [[TTS]] and a bunch of Warhammer-themed music as well. Also created a 40K [[Anime|Singing Idol]] contest series thing. Because of course he did. Had moved to Battletech as part of the 40k-Battletech <s>memegration</s> migration. While his songs reflect a love of the particular work, occasionally [[Skub|his vocals somewhat underperform.]] However, his instrumentals are incredibly strong. ...Or at least they were. Come 2023 and, in an unusual move, he decided to come clean about (once?) being one of ''[[Loli|those]]'' kinds of [[Slaanesh]] worshippers and ended their association with Alfa and co. since it was obvious to anyone with a brain that [[RAGE|this wouldn't be taken well]]. Needless to say, the entire Warhammer and Ogre Poppenang communities, including /tg/, were blindsided by this and [[RIP AND TEAR|reacted accordingly]]. However, as of writing the situation is still fresh with several details uncertain, hence why they're still here instead of being [[BLAM|removed entirely]] from the list. However, it ain't looking good.
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