Editing Warhammer: The Old World (section)

==Reaction and the Fantasy player base==
Now you would think that the resurrection of [[Warhammer Fantasy]] would make all fantasy fans very excited and pleased, right? Well this is [[/tg/]], where [[Iron Warriors|bitterness and contempt]] is the natural state of most of the people who frequent the board, and the announcement of Fantasy's return has caused a bit of disgruntlement in part of [[/tg/]], mostly in the [[Wat|Warhammer Fantasy players]].

At first this may seem confusing, as Fantasy players seem to be the target audience of this announcement, but there are a few factors to consider:

* A lot of Fantasy players have not forgiven [[GW]] for [[The End Times]], and still consider it to be the [[Book of Grudges|greatest wrong]] GW has ever committed on their player base and while some people say that they should just "get over it", spending hundreds of dollars on an army and hobby, getting invested in the universe and then having the company kill/butcher your army, their fluff and the universe and then saying "buy it again" would leave most people feeling angry and betrayed. It's a bit like your [[That Guy|asshole friend]] running over your childhood dog, telling you to deal with it, and then showing up 2 years later saying he will get you a replacement cat. That GW has clearly stated that End Times is still a part of the lore has only gotten people more pessimistic.
* A lot of Fantasy players hold nothing but animosity for [[Age of Sigmar]] players. The two player bases do not get on at all, and this has been proven with the ill fated attempts to have a joint [[Warhammer Fantasy]] and [[Age of Sigmar]] general threads on /tg/, which would consist of both player bases telling each other and the OP to fuck off, and a new threads being made for each game. The few grogs who "get along" with AoS players, are the ones who were able to move on to AoS themselves, and were also the people most excited by the Old World announcement. There are also the people who are saying that Age of Sigmar was to thank for this, as it has done so well which [[Skub|rubbed a few people the wrong way]]. Though recently this hatred of the two fanbases has subsided, because like most things on the internet, people got bored and moved on, and simply went their separate ways, either accepting AoS or just ignoring it, with that said, of course there are some few people left still stroking the flames of hatred, with no purpose at all because people already moved on to either Total War: Warhammer/Vermintide games, made the conversion to AoS, went to play 40K instead, moved to other tabletop games, or just kept playing Fantasy like the End Times never happened.

A surprisingly common fear is what armies will actually make it into the game, as GW describing it as "Horus Heresy for AoS" has led some people to believe that the game will only feature various flavours of Empire and a few other human factions in a similar vein to 30k, and the map reveal showing a bunch of Empire characters has put a few people on edge. However the fact that non human factions can be identified in the logo (Goblins, Daemons and Skaven), [[Settra the Imperishable|Settra]] being specifically mentioned in GW's meme marketing and that the very obvious and smart thing to do would be adding all the previous armies from Fantasy to the game means this is probably people jumping at shadows. But this is GW, and they very commonly miss the obvious and smart thing to do. And for plenty of Fantasy players who never stopped playing the game, all the Old World could offer is new models and with the price hikes and [[Primaris Space Marines|biased updates]] GW has been putting out lately, not all Fantasy players are particularly enthusiastic to having to pay $60 for a single box of [[Dwarfs (Warhammer Fantasy)|Dwarfs]]. And speaking of money, many WHFB players sold their armies thinking they wouldn't be able to play with them anymore, only for GW to resurrect the setting a couple of years later. That means re-buying and painting everything their armies from scratch, or buying them back with the price increase the announcement meant. Hell, they are the lucky ones: [[RAGE|there were people so mad about AoS that SOME EVEN BURNED THEIR ARMIES]].

Now with all this being said some of the less bitter Fantasy players are excited or at least curious about The Old World, and most of the people on the /wfg/ are interested to see new Fantasy models (if for nothing else conversion bits and unit filler). Only time will really tell how this will play out, and if the game is supported properly it will probably do very well and if it can offer up good quality models for the old Warhammer factions it may even tempt the most bitter of grog to at least get some more units for his army. At the very least there won't be the huge confusion from [[Total War: WARHAMMER]] fans looking for the game its based on anymore.

Truth be told the simplest explanation for this whole thing is that GeeDubs noticed they can juice out the most from new Cities of Sigmar and other classic factions models with a "prequel" game, with virtually every kit from The Old World being compatible with AoS, it actually makes a lot of sense, if things go well then they could finally update their whole line into [[Awesome|modern 3D designed multikit plastic set]] (and the old models still being valid to play and maybe even made to order), if things don't go that well for The Old World then at least we still got updated models for AoS recycled factions and it can remain as an alternate ruleset that grumbling neckbeards can play with. The End Times, however, won't be retconned (hopefully except some of the really stupid minor details and hand waved as confused wrong news delivered in the middle of the apocalypse), as Old World is placed during the Age of Three Emperors.