Editing Armor Save (section)

== [[Age of Sigmar]]/[[Warhammer_40,000_8th_edition]] ==

The latest version of both games have turned to a simple, hybrid version of both save systems. Today:

*All units have a given base save value.
*All weapons have a given modifier to save (Rend in AoS, AP in 40k), independent of who or what is using it/it is being used against.

And that's basically it. Roll dice, apply modifier, compare with base value: equal or bigger, wound gets negated.

An individual unit's special rules sometimes modify this a bit (e.g. Skeleton Warrior units have a +1 modifier to save if the enemy's weapon has a rend of 0) in order to differentiate units and armies, but those rules are kept simple in order not to bog gameplay down.