Editing Orcs & Goblins (section)

==Females and Hybrids?==
Way back in the day before 40k cast its grimdark shadow over Fantasy (in fact, long before 40k was even thought of) Warhammer Orcs were not only the biggest threat in the setting, but also had normal biology. Half-orcs existed from 1st to 3rd edition Warhammer, and females had models.

However, much like everything else it borrowed from Fantasy, the creation of 40k [[Skub|shat all over the Orcs and Goblins concept]]. After Goblins ("Grots") were relegated exclusively to the status of "bitch Orks", GW concocted a bullshit explanation for their endless numbers; that Orks are mono-gender. They are fungal rather than mammal, and where an Ork's dangly bits should be there's instead a bloated sac full of spores which, upon death, bursts releasing thousands of baby Orks into the ground (interestingly, this means that all Orks lack a penis and thus urinate like females). While it was mentioned in early 40k fluff in a large list of Ork mutations that "Femboyz" exist, they were never elaborated on nor mentioned again. Little else on the list that never received a model was either however. This handily explains the massive population growth of Orks despite their comically high losses, which were dialed up to 11 in 40k as well.

While it was never made legitimately all-encompassing canon in Warhammer Fantasy via an all-inclusive "Orcs and Goblins breed through spores only"-style entry, GW nonetheless never mentioned Half-Orcs or Orc females again after 3rd edition. [[Night Goblins]] are mentioned to come from spores in a [[Black Library]] [[Skarsnik]] novel, although this can be explained by the strange anatomy and fungus obsession of the buggers as it is. In the ill-fated [[Warhammer Online]] game, Orc players begin their life emerging from a spore cave; but this game is non-canon, and took many liberties with lore.

Greenskin origins are suggested (but not confirmed) to be from spores brought accidentally by Old Ones. But since it was never actually retconned or contradicted, some players use the fluff that at least some Orcs and Goblins are technically still mammals and thus have some females who breed sometimes with some humans. Somewhere.
There's many fan explanations, from sexually breeding Orcs being a mutation to the spore Orcs being a mutation, to a non-greenskin species that dwell among the greenskins like Giants do being mistaken for Orcs, to Chaos Orcs of Slaanesh, and so on. Some have even ([[/d/|possibly]]) jokingly suggested a connection between the fungal nature of the new greenskin lore, and [[Nurgle|yeast infections]]. These are only a fan theories designed to bridge the gap between new and old lore, however.

The "Orcgina" and "SpOrc" argument is known for being an easy trigger for fights on /tg/. Much of the argument stems from two groups of purists; the first believing that the spore "Orkyness" makes Warhammer greenskins more unique. The second argues against anything that came from Warhammer iiiiiiiiiiin spaaaaaace. Factor in accusation of [[Magical Realm]], and you have [[Fail|a complete disaster]].
 
Uncharacteristically, Half Orcs are not described as pig-disgusting to humans and weak to greenskins. They simply exhibit traits of both, and have the Orcish/Norscan tendency to not get along with either. While they were described as being usually evil, Orcs back in the day were actually evil as well rather than being the fight-loving dimwits of today. As a result, when going with the assumption that they DO still exist, it's likely that they are simply [[Barbarian|barbarians]] uninterested in reading or magic rather than outright malevolent beings.

Anyone wishing to field half-orcs could simply hybridize Empire/Bretonnian bits with O&G bits. Female Orcs (Orc Girlz? Femboyz?) can be found in several ranges, notably Russian Alternative which produces models to use as proxies with Warhammer anyway. Female Goblins are rarer, as the specific look of Warhammer Goblins are rarely replicated elsewhere. Of course one can always just get creative with the [[Greenstuff]]...

Despite all of the above, the spore AND female Orcs are canon to [[Blood Bowl]]. Half-Orcs are mentioned in fluff blurbs, the old Orc cheerleaders are female, and there has also been mention of spores.

Here's the flavor text, directly from their Forgeworld model page: "''The Waaaghs (Wifes AAAnd GHerlfriendS) are the self-appointed cheer squad of the Gouged Eye. Stronger and larger than most of their male counter parts (you try raising Orc kids) the Waaaghs, disappointed with a poor season from the Orc team showed up one day to properly ‘motivate’ them. Now the Waaaghs can be regularly found on the side-lines whenever the Gouged Eye take to the pitch, hurling insults (and sometimes bottles) at the players, starting crude Orcish chants or egging the Orc players on to give the opposition more of a kicking.'' "
[[File:SQUISHY BITZ.gif|center|900px|FER THE HEADPATZ OF GORK AN' MORK, WHY?!]]
<span style='color:green;font-size:115%'> Oi'm twalf an' wots dis? </span>
{{FWIP|'''DAT GIT WUZ KRUMPED FOR DAT POST.'''}}

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Image:Warhammer Half Orcs.jpg|The original page referencing Half-Orcs (.
Image:Warhammer Female Orc.JPG|An original Citadel female Orc model, alongside the Boy of that era.
Image:Orc Femme 1.jpg|Artwork from [[Blood Bowl]] depicting an Orcy cheerleader.
Image:Orc Femme 2.jpg|That same Orc's model.
Image:Russian Alternative Orc Girlz.jpg|RA's Orc Girlz.
Image:Citadel Orc Villagers.jpg|The Citadel Orc Villagers series, which contained numerous females as well as children.
Image:Female Warhammer Orcs.jpg|The current Forgeworld female Orcs, sold as cheerleaders.
Image:Voxin C36 Female Hobgoblin Berserker.png|Oldhammer C36 "Female Hobgoblin Berserker", also known by the name "Voxin".
Image:Citadel Half Orc Cleric.jpg|A Preslotta Citadel Half-Orc Cleric.
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