Editing Kislev (section)

==Tabletop==
===3rd Edition===
Kislev troops are part of the "Old World Mercenaries" sub-army list.

===4th Edition===
Kislev troops are part of the very first army book for [[The Empire (Warhammer Fantasy)|The Empire]], even debuting their first ever special character in Ice Tzarina Katarin.

===6th edition===
During 6th Kislev got hold of it's own mini-army book that was designed to be used in tandem with other armies such as the Empire and Bretonnia. As a result there were only 7 units available in the army, with 2 of them being Special characters, 1 being a generic Hero and 3 generic units being Cavalry, leaving [[Kossars]] as the only Core infantry unit available. In addition to this there were no real army special rules, since each unit has a specific special rule that applied to that unit, such as Kossars ''Steady in the Ranks'' and [[Winged Lancers]] ''Glorious Charge.'' Overall the Kislev army relied heavily of Cavalry to be the hammer and skirmishers, while the relatively flexible, but lightly armoured (read; No armour) Kossars acting as both ranged and front line units, and while the lack of any artillery units, heavy infantry or magic users outside of [[Katarin]] meant that Kislev was ill-equipped to deal with most other armies, these rules were designed to be used as an allied contingent to an army like the Empire, which could bring all the cannons and Full-plate you could want.

You would think that getting the beginnings of an army and models would be a good reason for Kislev to be turned into a fully fledged army, but apparently GW was more busy making [[Stormraven|terrible Space]] [[Centurion Squad|Marine kits]] and giving [[Gav Thorpe|Thorpe]] and [[Matt Ward|Ward]] free reign to fuck up the rules and fluff, so this never happened and Kislev remained as a weird 1/4 army for the rest of Warhammer Fantasy's existence with no hope of actually being recognised as a full faction.

At least until...

===[[Warhammer: The Old World]]===
[[File:The Ice Guard.jpg|300px|thumb|right|The Ice Guard, the new bodyguard of the Tzarina.]]
[https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/23/the-old-world-ice-guard-of-kislevgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/ Announced in early 2020] it was confirmed Kislev is returning in Warhammer: The Old World as one of the playable factions, meaning it took two and a half editions and the death and reincarnation of Warhammer Fantasy for them to get fleshed out into a full army. So far most of the stuff we've seen has come from Total Warhammer 3 (which GW has confirmed to be showing off stuff that they plan to be in the Old World) and concept art which shows that Kislev seems to be undergoing a bit of a redo and re-establishment as some of the older fluff from old editions, [[Warmaster]] and [[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]] seems to be at least getting partially retconned or reworked. For example the old War Wagons seem to have been replaced by War Sleds which are pulled by bears instead of horses and the addition of the Ice Guard who are and order of Ice Maidens that serve as body guards for the Ice Witches being new and reworked concepts of older fluff. In addition the Russian-ness of Kislev has been thrown a bit into overdrive with Bears and Ice being pushed a bit hard for some peoples likes stating that it's flanderising the faction a bit with things like the War Sled and the Elemental Bear being the things people point at as being a bit too over the top with the Bear and Ice stuff. They have bear pulled artillery!

While there is a small division between how people feel about this new Kislev, most people find the more grounded additions such as the Tzar Guard and the updates to the [[Winged Lancers]] as more faithful updates to what Kislev should be and [[GW]] does have time to bring the other things more in line with what people want (though expecting good things out of GW, and for the Warhammer fanbase to agree on anything in even minute details, or just not go into inane arguments at all, is a bit like expecting it to rain upwards). Also, this is Warhammer where realism is supposed to give way to rule of cool. If someone complains about bears pulling artillery on ice sleds, then they are clearly and obviously in the wrong.