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==TWW2== * '''THERE ARE NO SKAVEN''' - True to the long-running joke both within the community and the trend in the setting, CA pretended that Skaven don't exist by being mum about the obvious Skaven inclusion in TWW2 despite the rat teaser, and interviews in particular became strange when the topic came up. * '''Benedict Cumberbatch''' - Yet again, after [[Teclis]] was revealed in the first trailer for 2, everyone agree he looked exactly like an aforementioned actor. CA even put this meme in the "Skaven Scribe Reacts" trailer, the Titular Skaven Scribe muttering about “Benedict Cumberelf” when Teclis is on screen. * '''Malekith's severe hatred of snow''' - Malekith, the first available Dark Elves Legendary Lord will frequently comment on how much he hates snow whenever he is in a snow biome. The main problem with this is, Malekith starts in Naggaroth. With most of Naggaroth being a snow ridden hellscape, this results in most of your campaign as Naggarond listening to Malekith go on endlessly about how much he hates snow. ** This became so popular several characters comment on this in TWW3. Herald's of Tzeench will comment he hears that Malekith hates snow. N'kari will bring up Malekith's hatred of snow. Be'lakor will comment that he hates snow too. * '''Hate for the High Elves knows no bounds!''' - The High Elves were the second race to be introduced in the sequel, and yet they still haven't gotten a faction trailer despite the game being a day away from release. Even sadder, The Enter the Vortex promo video tries to show off the "Proud High Elves" by showing them getting their shiny asses kicked by Malekith. Like, seriously, even the Empire didn't have it this bad in the first game. This has led to the assumption that CA's marketing team is made up of Dark Elves (or probably played in 8th edition against them. Seriously, one game was usually enough to hate the buggers for the rest of your life). The amount of trauma the poor Asur takes is so great, that we wouldn't be surprised if the High Elf reveal trailer was just ten minutes of Tyrion getting paddled on the ass by a goblin. And with the release of the High Elves trailer, it is.... three minutes of showcasing the other races, High Elves getting killed, and Tyrion and Teclis arguing. Throw us a bone here, guys, seriously. ** This led to the combined-map (titled Mortal Empires) patch notes including a joke note that they've think fixed the cinematic team's obsession with High Elves getting killed, but it'll require further testing...then they released a trailer for 2's blood DLC which involved both High Elves and Dark Elves murderlating each other. For a change, the High Elves actually give as good as they get. ** Minor associated memes: since one of the most vocal threads on the Total War: Warhammer Forum had been named "High Elves - Where's the Love?", community members from time to time asked for a "Mortal Empires - Where's the Love" Thread (which by now had been created[https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/205904/mortal-empires-wheres-the-love], due to the seeming lack of love the Old World received from CA in comparison to the New World. An even further subdivision is "Empire - Where's the love", which appears from time to time, since the Empire is the most uninspired race of TW WH I, partly explained because it's meant to be the standard faction, with barely anything unique compared to other races. Even the Empires "Unique" offices are shared with the Wood Elves that have them in a more interesting way. Karl Franz, the "Greatest Statesman of the Old World" is not having any bonuses to diplomacy and the Empire also is still lacking a playable sub-faction, which led to some people (and according to some snippets in CAs streams also CA) to think about moving Volkmar and Gelt to leading their own factions. *'''Not So Sneaky Skaven''' - The Skaven have a stealth mechanic on the campaign map, where all of their cities appear as ruins to everyone other than other Skaven factions. This was meant to make the Skaven feel like more of a hidden threat, plotting in the underground behind the backs of the other factions. While this was a good idea on paper, there are a number of different reasons why the little rat bastards are very easy to find: **First of all, if you find a bunch of random ruins connected to each other, and if you could swear that a few turns ago those ruins were inhabited by angry lizard people or emo pointy eared BDSM fetishists, odds are they are now occupied by Skaven. **All Skaven armies produce Skaven corruption, so if you come across a ruin in a province with high skaven corruption, bring some rat poison. **While the Skaven cities are invisible to you, they clearly aren't invisible to the AI, as they always seem to march up and siege Skaven cities with giant fuck off armies, (Which we're sure frustrates the hell out of people who play Skaven.) **Skaven cities appear as human/elven/dwarf ruins. If you see them in Lustria, Nehekhara or Southlands pay them a visit with rat traps when you can. **The ritual's magic energy still comes out of the cities even though they're supposed to be hidden. (To be fair in this case, Skaven magic isn't known for its subtlety) **On another note, one of the most important attributes of the Skaven is that they're supposed to be experts at ambushes which is the reason why they have Stalk as the normal army stance. Meta gameplay experiments have revealed that they lose at ambushing to a few other factions including the Lizardmen. (Apparently because a big blue Lizardman with a giant red T-rex is harder to see than a giant rat who has spent his whole life living underground and learning how to move very carefully without being seen.) <gallery> File:TWWH2_-_2g95ydg3e4q41.png|Out-Skaven the Skaven. </gallery> *'''Centigor Milk''' - Right from the gameplay trailer for The Warden and the Paunch which showed Grom's cooking mechanics players have noticed a peculiar ingredient - Centigor Milk. CA didn't even ignore the lore, the description outright points out that the centigor was, in fact, a male. Cue players memeing about exactly what sort of "milk" Grom uses. To add more hilarity, Grom even says "Mmm, Centigor milk.". <gallery> File:Centigor milk.png|Better not to think too much about it. </gallery> *'''Where is Boris?/Finding Boris''' - To make a really, really long story short. After CA released the Video "What is Mortal Empires"([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqSnK4rv7nU&t=0s]), Boris Todbringer had been seen between 0:17 and 0:24 while the narrator talked about the number of playable Legendary Lords in the Mortal Empires campaign. Due to his status as "Semi-Legendary Lord" he had often been rumored to be a DLC/FLC character with a playable Middenheim Subfaction. His appearance in this video immediately sparked talks about him possibly becoming playable with the long-awaited Empire Subfaction. After Whelan of CA had confirmed, that he was only in the video because he was usable in Custom and Multiplayer battles, users started to create pictures with the likes of "Where is Boris Todbringer?" [https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/205503/what-is-mortal-empires/p1][https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/1952003/#Comment_1952003][https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/205545/what-is-the-fascination-with-boris-todbringer/p1]. These pictures came with lines like "Where is Boris?" or "Finding Boris" as references to "Where's Waldo" and "Finding Nemo". [https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/comment/1952003/#Comment_1952003] *'''Khemri TV''' - A Photoshop of tomb kings like Settra reenact the similar but cynical lines from the meme-worthy station MEMRI TV, that publishes and distributes free English language translations of Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Pashto, and Turkish media reports. MEMRI TV was found to be funny by people on the internet due its violent behavior coming from its host as a result of said creative translations and was made a meme. One of the Photoshops has Settra says Araby can go to hell and Khalida says Lesbianism isn't so bad when compared to Vampirism. Speculated in-universe to be a Skaven disinfo campaign, considering the vast deposits of warpstone still existing throughout Khemri. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbDcRo2An1I Now in video form]. <gallery> File:Khemri TV Settra elf.jpg| Remember to stone the elves if you see them on the streets of Nehekhara File:Khemri TV 2.jpg|Khalida approves of this comment File:Khemri TV 3.jpg|Wise words coming from the astronomer of Nehekhara File:Khemri TV Lesbianism.png|[[Board-tans/u|/u/]] would agree with that File:Khemri TV 4.jpg|Settra's reaction to the shameful foreign occupation of Arabyan lands by Bretonnian imperialists File:Khemri TV 5.jpg|A fate worse than being a Dark Elf slave File:Khemri TV hierotitans.jpg|Remember kids, Hierotitans are creations of peace constructed by our peaceful Necrotects File:Khemri TV daysofnagah.jpg|I doubt the other Tomb Kings would agree with you File:Khemri TV oldkhopesh.jpg|In Nehekharan culture, holding an old Khopesh in front of a person is very offensive File:Khemri TV theempire.jpg|Take that Volkmar! File:Khemri TV Hates the Living.jpg|After The Mummy's theatrical release across Nehekhara, opinions of Tom Cruise became mixed File:Khemri TV Special with Settra and Arkhan.png|We interrupt this program due to technical difficulties. (*background noise consist of punches thrown and insults in Nehekharan*) </gallery> *'''turin''' - A YouTuber who broadcast Total War: WARHAMMER multiplayer battles as well as his own multiplayer battle. He is known for making hilarious Photoshop of in-game characters on other picture backgrounds and used it as his video's thumbnail. Other than that, he is a pretty good player himself. <gallery> File:OPTIMUS PINE V T-REX.jpg File:SETTRA V VOLKMAR.jpg File:SETTRA DINO HUNTER.jpg File:THE KEMMLER.jpg </gallery> *'''Ghorgon and Jabberslythe''' - When the Beastmen roster was leaked, many people were upset that these two iconic monsters from the list weren't included. The reason CA gave was due to pricing. See, Warhammer 1 wasn't expected to succeed nearly as well as it did, so the first few DLC were subject to the developer's low expectations and were given smaller budgets. CA claimed making the models for the Jabberslythe units would be as expensive as the entirety of the art budget of Age of Charlemagne DLC for Atilla. The nerds did what they do best, and tried to meme CA into adding them into the game. The memes have only intensified after the Bone Giant was added to the Tomb Kings DLC and the Kharibdyss to the Queen and the Crone, showing that CA has no problem adding more content to DLC after they launch. Many hope that the Beastmen players <s>(all five of them)</s> <span style="color:brown"> '''STOMP!''' FAHK U BORIS!!</span> will get their shiny new monsters, and an upcoming Wood Elf DLC adding DLC content for DLC factions, that day may be upon us. As of The Silence and The Fury, the Beastmen did in fact get both the Ghorgon and the Jabberslythe added as playable units. *'''Vampire Coast''' - Producing quite a few memes when it first was announced, which is predictable given its pirates. Many of them began as attempts from /v/ to troll /tg/, which failed spectacularly due to the excitement for the expansion and general silly nature of it all anyway being hard to actually get angry at. Most revolved around pirate jokes, pretending that Vangheist wasn't being added and being enraged about that, labeling the addition of Cylostra as SJW, general cracks at Saltspite's masculine appearance as well as false outrage that she isn't sexy, mispronunciation of Vangheist's name as everything from Vargheist to Vasectomy, references to the Giant Enemy Crab meme, and discussion of pirate shanties. How the Necrofex Colossus reloads was initially a meme, until CA answered it in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O8RqJ3QVLA a video focusing on the model] where it shows that it loads itself with its other arm and must have some kind of magic to fire (Harkon is known to utilize parts from Salamanders) given it also doubles as a flamethrower. <gallery> Image:Disneys Pirates Of Warhammer.png Image:Giant Enemy Crab.jpg Image:Captain Ursala.png Image:Amenar In Mortal Empires Before Sartosa.jpg|At least we know why Amanar didn't appear before now. </gallery> *'''Pirate Captains of Slaanesh''' - Vampire Coast Lords and Heroes have many different names that often end up making hilarious innuendos that probably makes Slaanesh proud. N'Kari might be trying to influence Luthor's crew before coming in game 3. These include, but are not limited to: **Dick Half Mast **Catherine Booty Catcher **Maggie Hornigold **Dick the Slimey **Tiny Tim Booty Catcher **Vinny Cocklyn **Jimbo Nutt *'''FUCKING TODDY!''' - A meme depicting Boris Toddbringer, Elector Count of Middenland, as a crazy, bombastic warrior that constantly shout, swear, and above all, is completely obsessed with Khazrak One-Eyed. It was born during the Yogscast Jingle Jam 2018, while the crew was playing a modded Old World campaign as Middenland, when a fully armored and eyepatched Tom bursted into the recording room asking if anyone had seen Khazrak One-Eyed and calling himself "Toddy", keeping his persona all the way through. The meme took the Yogscast subreddit by storm, and quickly made its way to the Total War community. Like Big Daddy Franz himself, Toddy has a few extremely hammy catchphrases, always written in all caps. Those include "HAPPY FESTAG!" (<s>the Empire's equivalent for Christmas</s> It's actually not, it's just their word for Holiday), "HE TOOK MY FUCKING EYE!" and "CARDIO BEATS CHAOS!". The meme's popularity prompted renewed calls to make Middenland playable in Mortal Empires. Recently, it was referenced by CA themselves in patch notes, describing how “TODDY ON /!$%!£@ FOOT” got a points reduction, and CA sponsored [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28-JvPaa_0 a humorous video of Toddy] telling <s>tall</s>true tales of him hunting for Khazrak while also happening upon a bunch of monsters (three of which are in The Silence & The Fury DLC of course, that's part of why they'd sponsor it). *'''Lizard Hitler''' - Tehenhauin quickly earned this nickname for himself, due to his burning hatred of the Skaven and his ultimate goal to completely exterminate them all. The cherry on top is that the game actually gives him the ability to trigger a full blown global race war between the Lizardmen and the Skaven, which will more often than not end up with a lot of dead rats. *'''Vashnaar, The Campaign Ender''' - Out of all the rogue armies to be added to the game after the release of Warhammer II, none has caused as much rage in the fanbase as Vashnaar's conquest. Based off of a minor Chaos aligned Dark Elf character from the lore, Vashnaar leads an army of high tier Dark Elf and Chaos forces (The two best heavy infantry factions in the game, as well not to mention that unlike Warriors of Chaos, Vashnaar can support his Chaos Warriors with Dark Elf ranged units and monsters) to sodomize the player's hopes and dreams. If this guy spawns close to your territory in the early game your campaign is pretty much already over as you likely have nothing to fight his army and his city garrisons are also stupidly broken. He gained Surtha Ek levels of infamy in the community, though while most people see the Everchariot as a funny meme, most people legitimately hate Vashnaar for how powerful his army is and how he can end your campaign if he spawns too close to you too early. <gallery> Image:TWWH2_-_6mpow1at58s41.jpg|<s>YOU GONNA GET RAPED</s> Meh.... When he shows up this late in the campaign he's less "Game ending threat" and more "Free XP." </gallery> *'''Nerf Spider Riders/Elven Supremacist/Hellcannons On Wheels/Lotus Moon Hates Him.''' - A minor group of related memes from the [[That Guy|"competitive"]] multiplayer scene. Multiplayer balance for Warhammer I & II has generally been an afterthought but the few who play it competitively are known for screeching about things and demanding changes that barely make sense from a competitive standpoint (ie nerfing anything that counters micro-intensive elf-skirmisher+skirmisher cavalry builds, but nothing about making more static factions better). After Forest Goblin spider-riders were microed effectively to blunt several Wild Rider charges during a particular tournament battle on stream in July 2019, a CA balance forum thread appeared about nerfing the rarely used unit for being broken and making Greenskins OP (The greenskin player lost the actual battle). A lot of these connect in some way to the prominent "serious" player Lotus Moon; his infamous ranting on the CA's balance forum seems disproportionately influential on recent balance changes which favour micro-intensive skirmisher armies. Fans of the multiplayer scene like to guess what under-used, average-to-subpar unit will upset Lotus Moon next, earning nerfs that affect both campaign and online modes. *'''Overcrowded Lustrian Rumble''' – When CA released the second game, Lustria was mostly filled with minor factions: the only major factions were Skrolk in the lower part, Teclis in the back corner, and Mazdamundi all the way up in Warhammer Mexico. However, with each new expansion more major factions were placed in Lustria to join the fun: Early on, Khalida was given the desert area of Lustria, Luthor moved into the Awakening, and Lokhir took over the coast. Things started to get ridiculous when Ikit Claw and Tehenhauin were also shoved into the now crowded Lustria, leading to the continent turning into a pit-fight with most playthroughs. Teclis’ campaign suffered the most from this, with their only allies, the Fortress of the Dawn faction, getting roflstomped by Lokir or Skrolk early on, leaving them completely isolated and surrounded by enemies. <strike> The final nail in the coffin was the Hunter and the Beast, with Wulfhart, Nakai, and Gor-Rok showing up to party, ensuring that Lustria turns into an orgy of factions trying to screw each other (with Teclis most often being sodomized the worst of them all).</strike> Scratch that, with the incoming DLC "The Silence and the Fury" Thorek has been added into Lustria in the vortex map, meaning now we have Dwarfs to deal with. It seems CA couldn't think of a more fitting way to close TW2 than to make Lustria an even bigger clusterfuck. <gallery> File:Fortunate Son Teclis.png|thumb|IT AIN'T ME! I AIN'T NO PRINCE'S SOO-OON File:Here We Go Again Teclis.png|thumb|The feeling when starting most Teclis Campaigns File:Smash Bros Lustria.png|thumb|Accurate portrayal of Lustria during the mid-game File:Wild Ride Teclis.jpg|thumb|Maybe Teclis shouldn't have left Ulthuan... File:TWWH2_-_xv0ppbspn2341.jpg|FAR from the Truth </gallery> *'''Crack Pairings (AKA Lore Unfriendly Alliances)'''- Because an alliance between Dwarfs and Vampires makes as much sense as an alliance between Dwarfs and Skaven... or even Lizardmen and Skaven. In short groups that are supposed to hate each other (say Skaven and Dwarfs) have a -40 or so penalty to relationships, which can be outweighed by positives if you go to war with Grimgor, Wurzag, some Beastmen herds, the dickhead rogue armies that pop up and Chaos Warriors while you've not done anything to Thorgrim because he's pushing north and you don't have a border. <gallery> File:TWWH2_-_4simyiegyug41.png File:TWWH2_-_q1sddjl3jfm41.png|When settling a grudge is more important than your pride and your hatred for a mortal enemy. File:TWW2_-_rlfoh0cbqay31.png|Tretch: Ah! Lizard-thing is busy fighting skeletons! Tretch make pact-deal just to get close-near for killy-kill! File:TWWH2_-_l17tiy7p0xc51.png|But of course Alith Anar would ally with those he swore eternal vengeance upon: The rat-men are a far worse threat than their twisted and debased kin! File:TWWH2_-_1596558477_Grimgor.png|Nothing says "imaginative Co-op" like intentionally going against the lore. File:TWWH2_-_txls9l213ki51.jpg|Queek is either smart and trying to play both sides or just wants to spite Archaon to get bragging rights about being stronger than Chaos. File:TWWH2_-_78f6qrwpq3j51-A.jpg|"Tsundere Kavorka Rat" </gallery> *'''INSOLENCE (AKA Do you know who I am?)'''- When you play as a character who, lorewise, is the ''de jure'' universal representative of their faction and you get rudely addressed by a subordinate faction that apparently doesn't recognize you. (Examples: Karl Franz and Alarielle) <gallery> File:TWWH2_-_87rmegdarrm31.jpg File:TWWH2_-_fphl1p8msly31.png File:TWWH2_-_1507931531_20171012154511_1.jpg|OUCH. Looks like Teclis isn't going to forget or forgive [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D56CckqlsB4 that argument from earlier before]. File:TWWH2_-_owx4591762v31.png|As if wearing a suit of armor to cover the entirety of your scarred body wasn't bad enough, now you have to put up with double-standards of the other Druchii. File:TWWH2_-_spvzl7njwcx21.jpg|Strength rank means nothing apparently </gallery> *'''Where's Thanquol!?'''- The debut of Gotrek and Felix as Legendary Heroes has inevitably spurred a torrent of pictures and questions constantly asking CA about when the most incompetent, Skaven-y, and popular of the Grey Seers is going to have his time in the game. Unfortunately, CA had (subtly and without a word) communicated the fact that there was absolutely no plan to include Thanquol in Warhammer 2. So disappointed fans can only hope that Thanquol will get to play a major role in Warhammer 3. *'''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrRpdJqMC80| Welcome to Estalia, Gentlemen]'''- Based of Gelt's speech during the Estalia battle for his quest for the Amulet of Sea Gold. The speech basically signifies that Gelt is sacrificing imperial lives against an undead army just to secure an item to help with his research, and he's barely hiding it. Due to the hamminess and delivery of the speech, it makes it sound like some kind of speech given to troops before being dropped in the middle of Vietnam, and you can bet your ass the community has made the connection. *'''The Memelords'''- In multiplayer, some Legendary Lords are so hilariously awful that they gained memetic status within the community. Picking them might make you lose the game, but it'll certainly win the heart of the people! The current Memelords are: Tretch Craventail, widely considered to be the worst Legendary Lord in the game (so bad that he has an item that will give him bonuses ''if he's currently losing the fight''); Nakai the Wanderer and Tiktaq'to, both inferior to their generic Lord counterparts. Honorary mention: Helman Ghorst, who used to be the greatest of all Memelords, and still retains some of that reputation, despite becoming quite valuable in some matchups as a dirt cheap Mortis Engine. Grimgor also used to hold this honor but ever since the Greenskin rework and his buffs he went from "King of all Memes" to "Usable but supbar". Malus also used to be one of these since before once to turned into Tz'arkan in game 2 it was an inevitable bleed out, but in Game 3 his self heal now out paces his health drain so he can actually kick ass in Daemon form now. *'''Take On/Abduct Captives'''- After winning a battle, the High Elves and Wood Elves have the option to replenish their armies by "pressing the prisoners-of-war into service". A popular misinterpretation of this fact is that they're making Non-Elf prisoners fight for them which really sounds like something they would never be dumb enough to consider doing. And doubly so in the case of the isolationist Asrai. What's likely happening is they're using POWs as slaves for carrying supplies and handling more menial tasks so more Elves can be freed up to fight in the battles, but the other idea is a lot funnier. <gallery> File:TWWH2_-_w116cnm6tez31.png|When you don't have time to Encamp and replenish losses for the Sisters of Avelorn. File:TWWH2_-_a57je7pgzx461.jpg|Who knew the Orcs could make such sound and irrefutable logic? File:TWWH2_-_gnql4bo2th461.png|Considering the misery they go through in their lives, these Skavenslaves are VERY lucky. </gallery> * '''He Flies Now''' - Much like J.J. Abrams forgot that jetpacks have always been a thing in Star Wars, Malagor forgot that he could fly and has had to imitate the peacock since the introduction of the Beastmen. Fortunately, the Beastmen Rework has enabled him to remember this skill and now the Crowfather glides far above his minions.
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