Editing Noblebright (section)

== More examples of works and their ranking ==

Please be aware that the following list is a product of many different [[Fa/tg/uys|Fa/tg/uys]] personal [[Skub|opinions]].  
[[Image:Helghan Revolution.jpg|thumb|right|Noblebright struggles have heroic sacrifices, copious amounts of bravery, and a just cause to fight for.]] [[Image:Killzone Rise From Ruin.jpg|thumb|right|Grimdark wars are usually directionless, brutal, and the reasons for fighting are very obscure (When there is one, it's usually thrown away in the face of reality).]]

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! NobleBright
! ...and GrimDark
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| [[Brighthammer_40,000_(2nd_edition)|BrightHammer 40k]] OR [[Age of Sigmar]] || [[Warhammer_40,000|WarHammer 40k]]
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| [[Warhammer_40,000|WarHammer 40k]] 8th ED onwards, but more like Nobledark || [[Warhammer_40,000|WarHammer 40k]] 3rd Edition or Age of Sigmar 2nd Edition<br>(sorta. Could be considered approaching Noblebright->Dark)
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| [[Age_of_Sigmar|AoS]] Broken Realms saga/3rd edition Dawnbringer Crusade || [[Age_of_Sigmar|AoS]] 2nd Edition Necroquake (seems GeeDubs is finally learning to balance out the Grimderpitude)
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| Entire Warhammer Franchise (Both 40k and Fantasy/AoS) || [[Xeelee Sequence|Xeelee universe]] 
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| [[Exalted]] (Well, Zig-zags between the two) || [[Vampire:_The_Masquerade|Vampire:tM]], [[Werewolf:_The_Apocalypse|Werewolf:tA]] ([[oWoD]])
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| [[Changeling:_The_Dreaming|Changeling:tD]] ([[oWoD]]) || [[Changeling:_The_Lost|Changeling:tL]] ([[nWoD]])
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|[[Geist: The Sin-Eaters]] ([[nWoD]]) ||[[ Wraith: The Oblivion]] ([[oWoD]])
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|[[D20_Modern|D20 Modern]] || [[Call_of_Cthulhu|Call of Cthulhu]]
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| Steven Spielberg||Quentin Tarantino
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| The West Wing || House of Cards 
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| Special Unit 2 || [[Delta Green]]
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| [[Star Trek]] (in general) || [[Babylon 5]] (closer to Nobledark)
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|[[Star Trek]] (in general) || [[Star Trek]] Picard (or even Discovery)
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| Star Trek: Voyager || [[Red Dwarf]]
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| Andromeda Ascendant || Farscape
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| Stargate SG-1 || The First Wave
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| Firefly (maybe not, see Discussion) || Blake's 7
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| Battlestar Galactica (1978) || Battlestar Galactica (2004)
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| Temeraire Series || [[A Song of Ice and Fire|Game of Thrones]]
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| Robocop || Judge Dredd
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| Code Lyoko (not that the show isn’t still dark on its own) || ReBoot
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| ReBoot || .hack
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| .hack || Sword Art Online
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| Previous season of Sword Art Online || Next season of Sword Art Online
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| [[Rogue Trader (RPG)|Rogue Trader]] || [[Dark Heresy]]
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| Osamu Tezuka || Go Nagai
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| The Wizard of Oz || Soul Eater
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| MACROSS (Robotech) || Mobile Suit Gundam
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| Mobile Suit Gundam || Neon Genesis Evangelion
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| Neon Genesis Evangelion || Bokurano
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| [[7th Sea]] || [[Poison'd]]
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| Zoids || Gundam
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| [[Spirit of the Century]] || [[Don't Rest Your Head]]
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| [[Traveller]] || [[Eclipse Phase]]
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| [[Transhuman Space]] || [[Eclipse Phase]]
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| [[Dragonlance]] || [[Dark Sun]]
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| [[Avatar: The Last Airbender|Avatar]] (not [[Avatar|Cameron's furfic)]] || Kaze no Stigma
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| [[Warcraft]] || [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle|Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]
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| [[Magic the gathering|Alara]], [[Theros]], [[Lorwyn]] || [[Innistrad]], [[Phyrexia|New Phyrexia]], [[Shadowmoor]]
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| [[Neverwinter Nights]] || Dragon Age
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| [[The Elder Scrolls]]<br>(Well, somewhat, if you ignore Kirkbride's EU-thing) || Gothic
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| Final Fantasy || Megami Tensei
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| Persona || Shin Megami Tensei 
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| Guin Saga || Berserk (more Nobledark)
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| Forts || REDCON
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| Attack on Titan Chapter 139 || Attack on Titan pre-Chapter 139
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| Death Note universe || Code Geass universe
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| Personae 4 & 5 || Persona 3
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| Red Alert 3 || Red Alert 2 
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| Red Alert 2 || Red Alert
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| Wolfenstein || MachineGames Wolfenstein games
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| [[Command and Conquer]]: Red Alert series || [[Command and Conquer]]: Tiberium series
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| Animorphs || Terraformars
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| Fate/Stay Night || Fate/Zero
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| [[Starcraft]] II || [[Starcraft|Starcraft: Brood War]]
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| [[Diablo]] III || [[Diablo]] I & II
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| Grand Theft Auto 1 || Saints Row 1
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| Saints Row 3 || Grand Theft Auto 4
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| Fable III || Dark Souls
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| Cowboy Bebop|| Black Lagoon
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| Undertale || LISA
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| Kid Icarus || God of War
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| God of War 2018 || pre-2018 God of War
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| Mass Effect 1 || Mass Effect 3
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| Mass Effect universe || [[Setting:Halo|Halo universe]] 
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| [[Setting:Halo|Halo universe]] || Dead Space universe
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| Dead Space Trilogy || Halo: Forerunner Trilogy
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| Spore || Darkspore
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| Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann || Getter Robo Armageddon
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| Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann || Kill la Kill
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| Ghost in the Shell || Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
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| Rebuild of Evangelion (Well, Zig-zags between the two) || Neon Genesis Evangelion
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| Neo-Hunter Casshern || Casshern Sins 
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| My Neighbour Totoro || Spirited Away
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| Spirited Away || Laputa: Castle in the Sky
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| Laputa: Castle in the Sky || Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Film)
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| Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Film) || Princess Mononoke
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| Princess Mononoke || Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (Manga) 
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| Dragon Ball || Hunter X Hunter
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| Mai-Otome || Mai-Hime (last 10 episodes at least)
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| Cardcaptor Sakura || Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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| Puella Magi Madoka Magica || Magical Girl Site (with a helping of [[Grimderp]] on the side)
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| Magia Record: Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story || Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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| Power Rangers in General || Power Rangers RPM
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| Super Sentai || Kamen Rider (especially the Showa Era ones)
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| Kamen Rider (most Heisei Era ones) || GARO
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| Batman: the Brave & the Bold || Batman: TAS (first two seasons only)
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| [[Star Wars RPG|Star Wars Episode I, IV, VI,<br>Star Wars: The Clone Wars Movie and Season 1,<br>and a decent portion of the Expanded Universe]] || [[Star Wars D20|Star Wars Episode II, III, V, VII,<br>Star Wars: The Clone Wars from Season 2 onwards,<br>and the other half the Expanded Universe, especially The New Jedi Order and Legacy]]
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| Little House on the Prairie  || Deadwood
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| Regular idol series || Zombieland Saga
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| Full House || Married With Children
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| The Green Zone || The Hurt Locker
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| The Sarah Jane Adventures || [[Doctor Who|Torchwood]]
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| ''Pirates of the Caribbean'' || ''Black sails''
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| ''Assassins Creed IV: Black Flag'' || ''Risen 2: Dark Waters''
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| Justice League || Watchmen
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| Castlevania || Buffy: The Vampire Slayer
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| ''Lois and Clark'' or the 80's Superman Movies || ''Man of Steel''
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| ''Planetary'' || ''The Authority''
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| Cyanide and Happiness || [http://picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php?comicID=132 pictures for sad children]
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| The Silver Age of Comic Books || The Dark Age of Comic Books
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| [[Steampunk|Steampunk Genre]] || [[Cyberpunk|Cyberpunk Genre]]
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| Raspberry Pi || OpenPandora
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| South Korea || <s>North</s> BEST Korea
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| [[Discworld]] || [[A Song of Ice and Fire]]
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| A Wizard of Earthsea || The Tombs of Atuan
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| Guilty Gear || BlazBlue
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| Mega Man (Classic, Legends, Battle Network,<br>ZX, Star Forces 1 and 2)|| Mega Man (X, Zero, Star Force 3,), The Protomen
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| [[Cyberpunk 2020]] || Cyberpunk Red
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| The Chronicles of Narnia|| His Dark Materials
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| Anthem || Halo
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| Halo || Half-Life 2
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| Half-Life 2 || Resistance
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| Resistance || Gears of War (The first game especially)
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| Gears of War  || Killzone 
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| Just Cause 2 || Spec Ops: The Line
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| Plants VS Zombies || The Last of Us
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| The Last of Us || The Last of Us Part 2 (10% Grimdark, 90% [[Grimderp]])
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| Mirror's Edge || Assassin's Creed
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| Iron Kingdoms MKii || Iron Kingdoms MKi
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| Marvel Comics films || [[Grimdark#Grimderp|DC Universe films]]
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| DC comics || Marvel comics
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| Marvel comics || Watchmen comics
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| Watchmen comics || Wanted comics
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| Wanted comics || Crossed comics (1% Grimdark, 99% [[Grimderp]])
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| Buffy the Vampire Slayer || Hellsing (any medium)
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| Hellsing (2001 series) || Hellsing (manga and OVA)
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| Warehouse 13 || The [[SCP Foundation]]
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| [[Eberron]] || [[Dragonmech]]
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| [[Planescape]] || [[Ravenloft]]
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| [[Wilderlands of High Fantasy]]|| | [[Forgotten Realms]]
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| InFamous || Prototype
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| Subnautica || Iron Lung
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| Harry Potter 1-3 || Harry Potter 4-7 (ESPECIALLY 7th)
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| Deus Ex 1-2 || System Shock 1-2
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| RoboCop || Terminator
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| Terminator 2 and Terminator Salvation (no fate but what we make) || Terminator 1 and 3 (there was no system core; it could not be shut down)
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| Homeworld 1 and 2 || Homeworld: Cataclysm<br>(when the Beast make their first appearance)
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| [[Fist of the North Star]] || Violence Jack
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| The Simpsons || South Park
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| The Glaive || Conan the Barbarian
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| The Hobbit || The Children of Hurin
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| Chivalric Romances || Icelandic Sagas
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| American Revolution || Vietnam War
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| Vietnam War || World War I
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| [[Mordheim]] || [[Malifaux]]
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| Civilization:Beyond Earth || [[Alpha Centauri]]
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| [[The New Testament]]  || [[The Old Testament]]
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| Overwatch || [[Team Fortress 2]] (Especially Mann vs. Machine)
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| [[Team Fortress 2]] || Team Fortress Classic
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| Ghostbusters films and Real Ghostbusters || | Extreme Ghostbusters
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| Metal Gear (in general) || | Metal Gear Solid V
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| Girls und Panzer || Panzerfraulein Alteseisen 
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| Far Cry 1 || | Far Cry 2 and 3
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| Overstrike || | Fuse
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| Pokemon Franchise || | Digimon Franchise
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| Digimon Adventure || | Digimon Tamers
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| Digimon Tamers || Shadow Star Narutaru
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| Bakugan || Kiba
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| [[Fallout]] series || | S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series
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| S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series || | Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light
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| Metro 2033 and Metro Last Light || | Metro 2033 (novel), Metro 2034 (novel),<br>and Metro 2035 (novel) 
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| Bethesda's Fallout 3 and onwards || The first two Interplay games
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|[[Approved anime|Slayers]] || | Bastard!!
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| Alice in Borderlands || | Gantz
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| Fast And Furious || | Death Race
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| Death Race || | Mad Max
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| Spaghetti Westerns || [[Deadlands]]
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| Dracula || | Underworld
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| Y:the last man  || | Children of men 
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| Battlefield Bad Company || | Call of Duty Modern Warfare trilogy
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| Call of Duty Modern Warfare trilogy || | Call of Duty Black Ops III
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| Dead Rising series || | Left 4 Dead series
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| Left 4 Dead series || | Dead Island series
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| Dead Island series || | World War Z movie
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| World War Z Movie || | World War Z novel
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| World War Z Novel || |  The Walking Dead comics 
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| Super Robot anime|| | Real Robot anime
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| Real Robot anime|| | WAT Robot anime
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| The Go-Betweens|| | The Birthday Party/Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
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| Animal Crossing|| | Cult of the Lamb
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| League of Legends|| | Dota 2
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| League of Legends || Netflix's Arcane
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| Rome: Total War|| | Total War: Attila
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| Freespace || | Freespace 2
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| Street Fighter franchise || | Mortal Kombat franchise
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| Star Wars Jedi: Outcast duology || | Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2 (2000's) 
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| Minecraft || | 7 Days to Die
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| Blood Diamond || | Lord of War 
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| Naoki Urusawa's Monster || ERASED
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| Casa de mi Padre || | Sicario
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| GammaWorld || | The Mutant Epoch
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| Konosuba || Re:Zero
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| Log Horizon || Overlord
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| Overlord, Re:Zero, any Isekai ever || Now and Then, Here and There
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| Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? || [[Goblin Slayer]]
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| This Means War || Savages
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| Brave New World (more like GrimBright, really) || [[1984]]
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| Sailor Moon (old censored american dub) || Sailor Moon (original version)
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| Sailor Moon (original version) || Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon
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| Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon || Revolutionary Girl Utena
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| Revolutionary Girl Utena || Puella Magi Madoka Magica
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| Egan's Diaspora || | Dukaj's Perfect Imperfection
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| Touhou Project || Crimzon Clover
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| Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet, and White Lantern Corps || Red, Orange, Yellow, Black, and Ultraviolet Lantern Corps
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| Pod Save America || Chapo Trap House
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| Chapo Trap House || The Daily Shoah
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| Jimmy Neutron, Back to the Future || Rick and Morty
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| World War II: Western Front || World War II: Eastern Front
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| World War II: Eastern Front || World War II: Pacific Theatre
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| World War II: Pacific Theatre || World War I: Western Front
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| World War II: French Resistance || World War II: Polish Resistance
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| Pork Chop Hill || Tae-Guk-Gi
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| [[Death Korps of Krieg]] || [[Xeelee_Sequence#Interim_Coalition_of_Governance|Interim Coalition of Governance]]
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| Parasyte || Devilman
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| Disney Channel || Cartoon Network
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| Cartoon Network || Toonami
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| Toonami || Adult Swim
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| E.T. || IT
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| Homo faber || Lolita
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| Maple Story || Made in Abyss
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| Ready Player One || 20th Century Boys
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| My Hero Academia || ONE PUNCH MAN (more like Grimbright, really)
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| Grand Theft Auto || Mafia
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| [[Superman | Metropolis]] || [[Batman | Gotham City]]
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|  Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy.  || Jak 2 and later
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| Axis Powers Hetalia || Polandball
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| Soren Kierkegaard || Friedrich Nietzsche
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| John Stuart Mill || David Benatar
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| Noam Chomsky || Michel Foucault
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| Thomas Aquinas || Augustine of Hippo
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| Jean-Jacques Rousseau || Thomas Hobbes
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| Thomas Hobbes || Friedrich Nietzsche
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| Friedrich Nietzsche (before Thus Spoke Zarathustra) || Friedrich Nietzsche (after Thus Spoke Zarathustra)
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| Friedrich Nietzsche || Mark Twain (Best example being the Mysterious Stranger)
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| Arthur Schopenhauer || Emil Cioran
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| Emil Cioran || Philipp Mainländer (How Grimdark is he? Mainländer is the only philosophical pessimist to '''take his own life'''.)
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| Classical Philosophy (e.g. Virtue Ethics, Stoicism) || Contemporary Philosophy (e.g. Existentialism, Postmodernism)
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| Jean-Paul Sartre || Albert Camus
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| The American Revolution || The French Revolution
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| The French Revolution || The Russian Revolution
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| The Settlers || Civilization
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| Civilization || Tropico (Can be Grimbright if you are a "benevolent" dictator)
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| Sgt. Frog || Invader Zim
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| Adventure Time || Tigtone
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| Zootopia || Beastars (actually closer to Nobledark)
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| Beastars || Kevin and Kell (The setting, but not the story)
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| Call of Duty || Homefront
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| Tom and Jerry || Maus
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| I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream (the video game) || I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream (the book)
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| Stellaris (when you play Egalitarian, Xenophile or Federation Builder) || Stellaris (whenever you play [[Imperium of Man|Xenophobe/Fanatic Purifier]] or [[Fall of the Eldar|Psionic Ascension]])
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| Care Bears || Happy Tree Friends
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| Almost everything made by Sanrio, with a few exceptions || Gudetama (Grimbright), Aggretsuko (Nobledark), Ringing Bell (Grimdark)
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| Kid vs Kat || Mr. Pickles
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| Power Metal || Thrash Metal
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| Thrash Metal || Death Metal
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| Death Metal || Black Metal
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| Black Metal || Doom Metal/Sludge
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| 2019 || 2020
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| Trigun || Gungrave
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| Cheers || It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
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| Most Nintendo Properties || Metroid (more like Nobledark)
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| [[One Piece]] || Black Lagoon
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| COVID-19 || Spanish flu
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| Spanish flu || Black Death
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| Battle For Dream Island || ONE
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