Editing Warhammer/Tactics/8th Edition/Grand Legion of the Everchosen (section)

===Lords===
*'''Beastlord:''' 65 points cheaper than a Chaos Lord and only slightly less killy (-2 WS, -2 I, -1 A), Beastlords can do well with a small bit of magical equipment and spread through a few Warrior units if you want to have several combat Lords without sacrificing your magic.

*'''Doombull:''' Oh daddy yes, the Doombull can now wreck havoc with monsters worthy of his skills. Use him in the same way you would in a Beastmen army. However, the new Legion rules means that he fits perfectly in a unit of Trolls. Give him the Blackened Plate and he'll grant the entire unit a 4+ ward against flaming attacks. Oh, and he gives them Frenzy via the Slaughter's Call special rule. Laugh when your trolls have five attacks, and are immune to fire based attacks, which was their only weakness before, and he actually beats out Chaos Lords for sheer number of models he can kill (which can spike even higher with proper items like the Ramhorn helm).

*'''Great Bray-Shaman:''' You'll likely see more of these pop up in order to give access to Lore of Beasts, something which Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos lacked.  He's got an extra point on Toughness over Sorcerer Lords, is cheaper, and can be built to be pretty decent in combat if you want to get extra power dice (see Tactics) though without Chaos Armour will need a Ward Save if you plan on getting him into combat.  Overall a better wizard if you just want one for increasing your strengths and shutting down the enemies magic, though Chaos Sorcerers get better mounts and have access to more varied Lores.

*'''[[Bloodthirster]]:''' The only Lord choice besides a Doombull who beats out a Chaos Lord in terms of sheer killyness. Expensive as hell (all four greater daemons are), but you were never going to outnumber the enemy anyway, and you're definitely getting what you pay for!  Now with three varieties thanks to End Times Archaon:
**'''Unfettered Fury:''' Basically the same Thirster you're already using.  Even the same cost.
**'''Insensate Rage:''' 100 more points for Frenzy, HKB, and a Great Weapon.  Simply put, if you charge it, it will DIE, no fucks given about ASL.  But 100 points?  Really?
**'''Wrath of [[Khorne]]:''' +150 points gives you a bevy of boosts.  Magic Resistance 3, Frenzy, Devastating Charge, Hatred (Characters) that gives him a bonus +3" when charging any.  He also gets an S5 Flaming Breath Weapon and a set of weapons giving it a middle-ground between his little brothers: +2S on the first round of Close Combat, and always issues an extra attack.

*'''[[Lord of Change]]:''' he's supposed to be the greater daemon of the god of magic, so you'd think he'd be a great wizard, but the current bland Daemon book makes him no better than the other two wizardy greaters.  He is automatically a level 2 wizard and can be upgraded to up to level 4, making him slightly cheaper (10 points) than the other casting greaters when fully upgraded.  He gets to reroll 1s on his channeling attempts, otherwise, he has no special advantages in terms of spellcasting; and only a couple of the random daemonic gifts affect spellcasting, so don't expect any help there.  He has access to Lore of Metal (which is OK) and Lore of Tzeentch (which is also OK, but wildly unpredictable).  Lastly, he's OK in combat, especially against units he can thunderstomp- however, he has Unstable, plus he can't dish out the same melee death as the Thirster or Keeper.  He's not all downside though- he can fly, and is fairly tough for non-cannons to kill (T6, W5, 5+ ward that can reroll 1s).  But if you're looking for a good spellcaster, you may want to look elsewhere.

*'''[[Great Unclean One]]:''' like Nurgle daemons tend to be, he's tougher than his comrades (+1T, +1W) but isn't all that great at combat (at least when compared to the other three greater daemons), although his Nurgle trait makes him harder to hit.  Ironically, he's particularly vulnerable to poison.  Is automatically a level 1 wizard but can be upgraded up to level 4; has access to two very good Lores- Nurgle and Death.

*'''[[Keeper of Secrets]]:''' arguably the most powerful of the four greater daemons.  Can dish out damage nearly on par with the Thirster, but can also be a devastating wizard.  Like the Unclean One, is level 1 but can be up to level 4.  (S)he can use Lore of Slaanesh (which can be surprisingly good) or Lore of Shadow (which is one of the better generic lores).

*'''[[Daemon Prince]], Daemons of Chaos Version:''' Inferior to the Warrior version seen below.  Has the same stat line and basic upgrades (flight, Chaos Armor, Wizard levels, Marks, etc).  The difference is the Daemon version is stuck with the random Daemonic Gifts charts rather than being able to reliably take magic items and mutations, and the Daemon version has the Unstable rule (Warrior does not).  To add insult to injury, the Daemon version is slightly more expensive!  Only take this guy if you like needlessly putting yourself at a disadvantage, or if you have some sort of fluff reason.

*'''[[Daemon Prince]], Warriors of Chaos Version:''' The same old unbreakable Daemon Prince from hell that everyone loves. The new rules for Lords means that you could potentially bring two of them to a 2000+ game, although doing so might make you suffer in other areas, just because you can stuff your force with Lords and Heroes, it doesn't mean that you should. Pretty much any of the 4 Gods make a brilliant unit, the Nurgle Death Prince is hated throughout the game, although the Tanky Tzeentch Prince with Lore of Metal is also pretty good. Don't forget Slaanesh, who can fly up first turn and Choir Bomb everything in sight. With a Chaos familiar and a level one wizard using Slaanesh, you are pretty much guaranteed to get Choir as your spell. Khorne is also handy, because not being a wizard makes you pretty cheap.

*'''Chaos Lord:''' The new Lord rules have been good for Chaos. You can now quite comfortably squeeze in a combat lord and a Level 4 in a 2000 point list. One of the best lords in the game, coat him in thick armour and a nice ward save and send him in at the deep end. Using Tzeentch can make you almost un-killable, Nurgle can make you un-hittable. Slaanesh isn't as popular because he has a meaty leadership 9, but if you are prone to running away like a sissy girl when your wardogs blow up then it may help you out. Khorne gives you an extra attack, which is always handy.  Chaos Lords don't usually need Magic Weapons thanks to their high statline, but If you don't want to give your Lord a special mount or specific Magic Weapon, you'll usually be better off paying the extra 25 points and getting a Doombull as their statline is better for the job.

*'''Chaos Sorcerer Lord:''' More expensive than his Beastman counterpart, but makes up for it by being able to take armour and respectable mounts.  Tool him up anyway you want, but make sure his armour save is 2+ or better and he has (at least) a 4+ ward save as  it's really easy for warriors to do and due to Eye of the Gods, he could very well end up in Challenges, though luckily for you, you are not a smelly elf mage in a cowardly robe. He is only Toughness and Strength 4, but you always give him unholy strike and sword of striking. A single attack with 2's to hit and 2's to wound (with d3 wounds to boot) means he's likely to ruin that smart ass character trying to pick on your wizard. If you want him just to get a tough lvl 4 wizard to defend against enemy magic you'll be better off with a Great Bray-Shaman.