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	* '''The Ministry of (love, truth, peace, plenty)''': In 1984, the Oceania had their own departments of powers to control their filthy peasants. Despite their organization have names like truth and love, it is actually the opposite. '''The Ministry of Truth''' is basically [[Administratum]], where all the history records and documents were "true" and they are certainly not destroyed or rewritten to provide false propaganda. You dispute this? Ha! Where's your proof? Oh please, memories are faulty things. '''The Ministry of Love''' is where all the heretics are cared with "love" and the staff members will definitely not treat them with unorthodox methods of torture or mind rape, or both. '''The Ministry of Peace''' is the army because only true peace can be found through oppression with [[Autogun\|bullets]], [[Chainsword\|cold steel]] and [[Flamer\|fire]]. An act of war is actually an act of peace, and totally not an excuse to create a "common enemy" scenario or keep the populace in line with fear! '''The Ministry of Plenty''' is the food distribution to provide "plenty" for all and certainly not feed the upper class while keeping everyone else in a famine; also, the chocolate rations have been increased to 10 grams - they have never been 15 grams and were certainly not ''decreased'' to 10 grams. Noted how this 4 ministries is comparable to the four chaos gods. [[Tzeentch]] is truth (deceive people with lies), [[Khorne]] is peace (eternal war), [[Slaanesh]] is love (sadistic fun) and [[Nurgle]] is plenty (health through illness and famine)		* '''The Ministry of (love, truth, peace, plenty)''': In 1984, the Oceania had their own departments of powers to control their filthy peasants. Despite their organization have names like truth and love, it is actually the opposite. '''The Ministry of Truth''' is basically [[Administratum]], where all the history records and documents were "true" and they are certainly not destroyed or rewritten to provide false propaganda. You dispute this? Ha! Where's your proof? Oh please, memories are faulty things. '''The Ministry of Love''' is where all the heretics are cared with "love" and the staff members will definitely not treat them with unorthodox methods of torture or mind rape, or both. '''The Ministry of Peace''' is the army because only true peace can be found through oppression with [[Autogun\|bullets]], [[Chainsword\|cold steel]] and [[Flamer\|fire]]. An act of war is actually an act of peace, and totally not an excuse to create a "common enemy" scenario or keep the populace in line with fear! '''The Ministry of Plenty''' is the food distribution to provide "plenty" for all and certainly not feed the upper class while keeping everyone else in a famine; also, the chocolate rations have been increased to 10 grams - they have never been 15 grams and were certainly not ''decreased'' to 10 grams. Noted how this 4 ministries is comparable to the four chaos gods. [[Tzeentch]] is truth (deceive people with lies), [[Khorne]] is peace (eternal war), [[Slaanesh]] is love (sadistic fun) and [[Nurgle]] is plenty (health through illness and famine)

			== Note ==
			1984 is one of the most iconic works of Dystopian Fiction, a lot of people know about it in general terms and pick up bits and pieces of it through their regular media diet. It has become an easy code word for oppressive totalitarian regimes with eyes everywhere. It has also become a by-word for political hacks who've in all likelihood never read it to attack their opponents. "The government is telling people to wear masks in a Pandemic, that's just like how was in 1984" and so forth.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

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	* '''The Ministry of (love, truth, peace, plenty)''': In 1984, the Oceania had their own departments of powers to control their filthy peasants. Despite their organization have names like truth and love, it is actually the opposite. '''The Ministry of Truth''' is basically [[Administratum]], where all the history records and documents were "true" and they are certainly not destroyed or rewritten to provide false propaganda. You dispute this? Ha! Where's your proof? Oh please, memories are faulty things. '''The Ministry of Love''' is where all the heretics are cared with "love" and the staff members will definitely not treat them with unorthodox methods of torture or mind rape, or both. '''The Ministry of Peace''' is the army because only true peace can be found through oppression with [[Autogun\|bullets]], [[Chainsword\|cold steel]] and [[Flamer\|fire]]. An act of war is actually an act of peace, and totally not an excuse to create a "common enemy" scenario or keep the populace in line with fear! '''The Ministry of Plenty''' is the food distribution to provide "plenty" for all and certainly not feed the upper class while keeping everyone else in a famine; also, the chocolate rations have been increased to 10 grams - they have never been 15 grams and were certainly not ''decreased'' to 10 grams. Noted how this 4 ministries is comparable to the four chaos gods. [[Tzeentch]] is truth (deceive people with lies), [[Khorne]] is peace (eternal war), [[Slaanesh]] is love (sadistic fun) and [[Nurgle]] is plenty (health through illness and famine)		* '''The Ministry of (love, truth, peace, plenty)''': In 1984, the Oceania had their own departments of powers to control their filthy peasants. Despite their organization have names like truth and love, it is actually the opposite. '''The Ministry of Truth''' is basically [[Administratum]], where all the history records and documents were "true" and they are certainly not destroyed or rewritten to provide false propaganda. You dispute this? Ha! Where's your proof? Oh please, memories are faulty things. '''The Ministry of Love''' is where all the heretics are cared with "love" and the staff members will definitely not treat them with unorthodox methods of torture or mind rape, or both. '''The Ministry of Peace''' is the army because only true peace can be found through oppression with [[Autogun\|bullets]], [[Chainsword\|cold steel]] and [[Flamer\|fire]]. An act of war is actually an act of peace, and totally not an excuse to create a "common enemy" scenario or keep the populace in line with fear! '''The Ministry of Plenty''' is the food distribution to provide "plenty" for all and certainly not feed the upper class while keeping everyone else in a famine; also, the chocolate rations have been increased to 10 grams - they have never been 15 grams and were certainly not ''decreased'' to 10 grams. Noted how this 4 ministries is comparable to the four chaos gods. [[Tzeentch]] is truth (deceive people with lies), [[Khorne]] is peace (eternal war), [[Slaanesh]] is love (sadistic fun) and [[Nurgle]] is plenty (health through illness and famine)

	~~== Note ==~~
	1984 is one of the most iconic works of Dystopian Fiction, a lot of people know about it in general terms and pick up bits and pieces of it through their regular media diet. It has become an easy code word for oppressive totalitarian regimes with eyes everywhere. It has also become a by-word for political hacks who've in all likelihood never read it to attack their opponents. "The government is telling people to wear masks in a Pandemic, that's just like how was in 1984" and so forth.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

1d4chan>TheSpoilerHeretic: /* Plot */

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	== Plot ==		== Plot ==
	[[File:Winston smith rat torture.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\| [[skaven\|YES. YES. ME PUNISH FOOLISH-SCARED NO FUR. CRY-TEAR AT ME MAN-THING!!]]]]		[[File:Winston smith rat torture.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\| [[skaven\|YES. YES. ME PUNISH FOOLISH-SCARED NO FUR. CRY-TEAR AT ME MAN-THING!!]]]]
	In [[Hive\|Airstrip One, Oceania]], a middle-aged member of [[Administratum\|the Ministry of Truth]], Winston Smith, isn't happy about his life. He's sick of doing the same thing every day; helping the government spread their propaganda, being exhausted at work, his home life dominated by his telescreen (pretty much "IN SOVIET RUSSIA, TV WATCHES YOU!", and woe betide anyone who breaks or turns theirs off), never getting laid (except for a far back encounter with an elderly prostitute; P.S prostitution is illegal here but is a crime that the state does not actually care much about) and not having enough to eat. But his life changes when he meets his co-worker, twenty-something brunette Julia. Despite coming across as a model citizen, even being a member of the [[Sisters of Cleaning\|anti-sex league]], Julia gives him a secret message which says "I love you." After meeting her outside their work, they talk and ~~Julia and Winston decide~~ to [[Heresy\|give each other what they want]], which is something the party considers [[Blam\|unacceptable]]. Winston has a fun time [[Slaanesh\|fucking Julia]], [[Tzeentch\|learning about the past]], [[Nurgle\|eating the real food the upper class gets]] and [[Khorne\|writing in his notebook about how much he hates The Party]]. During this time, Winston's co-worker O'Brien introduces himself as a member of the secret anti-government Brotherhood and recruits Winston and Julia.		In [[Hive\|Airstrip One, Oceania]], a middle-aged member of [[Administratum\|the Ministry of Truth]], Winston Smith, isn't happy about his life. He's sick of doing the same thing every day; helping the government spread their propaganda, being exhausted at work, his home life dominated by his telescreen (pretty much "IN SOVIET RUSSIA, TV WATCHES YOU!", and woe betide anyone who breaks or turns theirs off), never getting laid (except for a far back encounter with an elderly prostitute; P.S prostitution is illegal here but is a crime that the state does not actually care much about) and not having enough to eat. But his life changes when he meets his co-worker, twenty-something brunette Julia. Despite coming across as a model citizen, even being a member of the [[Sisters of Cleaning\|anti-sex league]], Julia gives him a secret message which says "I love you." After meeting her outside their work, they talk and both decides to [[Heresy\|give each other what they want]], which is something the party considers [[Blam\|unacceptable]]. Winston has a fun time [[Slaanesh\|fucking Julia]], [[Tzeentch\|learning about the past]], [[Nurgle\|eating the real food the upper class gets]] and [[Khorne\|writing in his notebook about how much he hates The Party]]. During this time, Winston's co-worker O'Brien introduces himself as a member of the secret anti-government Brotherhood and recruits Winston and Julia.

	O'Brien gives them a book on the Brotherhood's ideals and instructions to continue their affairs until called on by them. They do, making the inn where they had their first tryst their secret getaway. After a sex session, they start reading up on the Brotherhood (which can be summed up as idealist English Socialism). During a later tryst, they are arrested by the [[Inquisition\|Thought Police]], who had been spying on their room the whole time through a telescreen hidden behind a painting (the innkeeper is revealed to be an undercover Thought Police commander). They are beaten and taken to the Ministry of Love to be brainwashed. There, Winston is reunited with O'Brien, [[Just as Planned\|and finds out that O'Brien is actually a top-level government agent; his "recruitment" of Winston and Julia, and maybe even the Brotherhood itself, was a sting operation]]. O'Brien [[Dark Eldar\|tortures Winston almost to death]] while also gaslighting him, then when Winston starts to succumb to the brainwashing O'Brien nurses him back to health. Then O'Brien finds out from surveillance of Winston talking in his sleep that he still loves Julia and hates Big Brother. So O'Brien sends him to the dreaded Room 101 to meet his worst fear.		O'Brien gives them a book on the Brotherhood's ideals and instructions to continue their affairs until called on by them. They do, making the inn where they had their first tryst their secret getaway. After a sex session, they start reading up on the Brotherhood (which can be summed up as idealist English Socialism). During a later tryst, they are arrested by the [[Inquisition\|Thought Police]], who had been spying on their room the whole time through a telescreen hidden behind a painting (the innkeeper is revealed to be an undercover Thought Police commander). They are beaten and taken to the Ministry of Love to be brainwashed. There, Winston is reunited with O'Brien, [[Just as Planned\|and finds out that O'Brien is actually a top-level government agent; his "recruitment" of Winston and Julia, and maybe even the Brotherhood itself, was a sting operation]]. O'Brien [[Dark Eldar\|tortures Winston almost to death]] while also gaslighting him, then when Winston starts to succumb to the brainwashing O'Brien nurses him back to health. Then O'Brien finds out from surveillance of Winston talking in his sleep that he still loves Julia and hates Big Brother. So O'Brien sends him to the dreaded Room 101 to meet his worst fear.

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	* '''Constant Surveillance''': In 1984, two-way televisions have been invented called "telescreens". They only play shitty government propaganda networks because they were created to stalk you and [[lulz\|troll]] you every day and you cannot turn them off. If you somehow manage to turn one off (either the propaganda or the recording device), you will be captured by the thought police and have your ass beaten. There are other surveillance devices such as helicopters (for tall apartment buildings), thought police, and even your own children (whom were part of the party's child spies program that keeps an eye on their parents, and they would turn on their parents without a second thought just so they would be labelled as a hero by the public if they do so, the shitty brat). The only people who are free from this nightmare are the underclass Proles, and that's because they're so dumb the Party considers them animals who do not give a fuck about politics, doing nothing but work, drink and wank to porn. Yes, you yourself are one such filthy dumbass Prole, using this Telescreen for hentai instead of [[/tg/ gets shit done\|actually doing something]]. In Warhammer 40k, there are the secret police of the Inquisition which have psykers reading people's minds everyday, and Adeptus Arbites who serve [[derp\|fair justice]] to common proletarians everyday. Also noted that in the Age of Apostasy, Goge Vandire had [[Servo-skull\|Cherubim]] installed everywhere to act as his own telescreens for whatever the fuck he had his minds on.		* '''Constant Surveillance''': In 1984, two-way televisions have been invented called "telescreens". They only play shitty government propaganda networks because they were created to stalk you and [[lulz\|troll]] you every day and you cannot turn them off. If you somehow manage to turn one off (either the propaganda or the recording device), you will be captured by the thought police and have your ass beaten. There are other surveillance devices such as helicopters (for tall apartment buildings), thought police, and even your own children (whom were part of the party's child spies program that keeps an eye on their parents, and they would turn on their parents without a second thought just so they would be labelled as a hero by the public if they do so, the shitty brat). The only people who are free from this nightmare are the underclass Proles, and that's because they're so dumb the Party considers them animals who do not give a fuck about politics, doing nothing but work, drink and wank to porn. Yes, you yourself are one such filthy dumbass Prole, using this Telescreen for hentai instead of [[/tg/ gets shit done\|actually doing something]]. In Warhammer 40k, there are the secret police of the Inquisition which have psykers reading people's minds everyday, and Adeptus Arbites who serve [[derp\|fair justice]] to common proletarians everyday. Also noted that in the Age of Apostasy, Goge Vandire had [[Servo-skull\|Cherubim]] installed everywhere to act as his own telescreens for whatever the fuck he had his minds on.
	**It should be noted that in both 1984 and 40k, the Panopticon both have flaws. You won't get nabbed the first time you do something which The Party does not like, they still have to organize sting operations. Be careful and you can (for a time at least) dodge the Thought Police. In 40k there are even more holes in the net for the upper classes. Nobles can a lot more easily get away with things. More insidious than ~~either~~ is the ~~mindset they instill~~.		**It should be noted that in both 1984 and 40k, the Panopticon both have flaws. You won't get nabbed the first time you do something which The Party does not like, they still have to organize sting operations. Be careful and you can (for a time at least) dodge the Thought Police. In 40k there are even more holes in the net for the upper classes. Nobles can a lot more easily get away with things. More insidious than the CCTV cameras or Pskyers is the uncertainty, in which saying the wrong thing at the wrong time out of context can get you nabbed and sent to the gulag if you're lucky.

	* '''In The Grim Darkness Of The Far Future There Is only War''': In 1984, eternal war is the best way for Oceania (which is composed of the Americas, the British Isles (called "Airstrip One" in the novel), Iceland, Australia, New Zealand, and southern Africa below the River Congo... [[Skub\|according to Oceania]]) to have their lonely [[Ork\|excuse for fun]]; they wage unnecessary wars with <s>friendly</s> countries that are almost exactly the same as they are, using the lands of unaligned countries as the battlefield, the inhabitants of those areas being forced to live in constant slavery under whichever power controls them at that time. All of this is so they can justify their brutal totalitarian rule, which is in place to preserve the [[Games Workshop\|status quo]]. This involves spending most of their money on building more [[Stormraven\|flying metal boxes]] or floating fortress, a massive waste of force labors that locks up people to build useless cargo ships. The party never giving benefits to their own people who are cramped into [[Hive\|1000 meters-high city prisons for your grandmother to live in]]. Oceania's neighbors (assuming they even exist) are [[Orks\|Eurasia(Europe, Soviet Union and Middle-East)]] and [[Eldar\|Eastasia(all of Northern India and East Asia except for Russia)]], who are just as much of a shithole like Oceania and they are constantly changing sides because they know the war is mutually beneficial. Once they are done [[Promotions\|buttsecks]] with each others for resources, they would backstab their allies and making their old enemy a new ally. Again, they three countries (assuming they are three separate countries, and not just a world-spanning Oceania faking a war with itself, or even just a tiny rogue state spewing all this BS) let their ex-ally backstab them on purpose, just to make sure the war never ends, just to make sure the benefits are always funneling into the national treasury.		* '''In The Grim Darkness Of The Far Future There Is only War''': In 1984, eternal war is the best way for Oceania (which is composed of the Americas, the British Isles (called "Airstrip One" in the novel), Iceland, Australia, New Zealand, and southern Africa below the River Congo... [[Skub\|according to Oceania]]) to have their lonely [[Ork\|excuse for fun]]; they wage unnecessary wars with <s>friendly</s> countries that are almost exactly the same as they are, using the lands of unaligned countries as the battlefield, the inhabitants of those areas being forced to live in constant slavery under whichever power controls them at that time. All of this is so they can justify their brutal totalitarian rule, which is in place to preserve the [[Games Workshop\|status quo]]. This involves spending most of their money on building more [[Stormraven\|flying metal boxes]] or floating fortress, a massive waste of force labors that locks up people to build useless cargo ships. The party never giving benefits to their own people who are cramped into [[Hive\|1000 meters-high city prisons for your grandmother to live in]]. Oceania's neighbors (assuming they even exist) are [[Orks\|Eurasia(Europe, Soviet Union and Middle-East)]] and [[Eldar\|Eastasia(all of Northern India and East Asia except for Russia)]], who are just as much of a shithole like Oceania and they are constantly changing sides because they know the war is mutually beneficial. Once they are done [[Promotions\|buttsecks]] with each others for resources, they would backstab their allies and making their old enemy a new ally. Again, they three countries (assuming they are three separate countries, and not just a world-spanning Oceania faking a war with itself, or even just a tiny rogue state spewing all this BS) let their ex-ally backstab them on purpose, just to make sure the war never ends, just to make sure the benefits are always funneling into the national treasury.

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	* '''Constant Surveillance''': In 1984, two-way televisions have been invented called "telescreens". They only play shitty government propaganda networks because they were created to stalk you and [[lulz\|troll]] you every day and you cannot turn them off. If you somehow manage to turn one off (either the propaganda or the recording device), you will be captured by the thought police and have your ass beaten. There are other surveillance devices such as helicopters (for tall apartment buildings), thought police, and even your own children (whom were part of the party's child spies program that keeps an eye on their parents, and they would turn on their parents without a second thought just so they would be labelled as a hero by the public if they do so, the shitty brat). The only people who are free from this nightmare are the underclass Proles, and that's because they're so dumb the Party considers them animals who do not give a fuck about politics, doing nothing but work, drink and wank to porn. Yes, you yourself are one such filthy dumbass Prole, using this Telescreen for hentai instead of [[/tg/ gets shit done\|actually doing something]]. In Warhammer 40k, there are the secret police of the Inquisition which have psykers reading people's minds everyday, and Adeptus Arbites who serve [[derp\|fair justice]] to common proletarians everyday. Also noted that in the Age of Apostasy, Goge Vandire had [[Servo-skull\|Cherubim]] installed everywhere to act as his own telescreens for whatever the fuck he had his minds on.		* '''Constant Surveillance''': In 1984, two-way televisions have been invented called "telescreens". They only play shitty government propaganda networks because they were created to stalk you and [[lulz\|troll]] you every day and you cannot turn them off. If you somehow manage to turn one off (either the propaganda or the recording device), you will be captured by the thought police and have your ass beaten. There are other surveillance devices such as helicopters (for tall apartment buildings), thought police, and even your own children (whom were part of the party's child spies program that keeps an eye on their parents, and they would turn on their parents without a second thought just so they would be labelled as a hero by the public if they do so, the shitty brat). The only people who are free from this nightmare are the underclass Proles, and that's because they're so dumb the Party considers them animals who do not give a fuck about politics, doing nothing but work, drink and wank to porn. Yes, you yourself are one such filthy dumbass Prole, using this Telescreen for hentai instead of [[/tg/ gets shit done\|actually doing something]]. In Warhammer 40k, there are the secret police of the Inquisition which have psykers reading people's minds everyday, and Adeptus Arbites who serve [[derp\|fair justice]] to common proletarians everyday. Also noted that in the Age of Apostasy, Goge Vandire had [[Servo-skull\|Cherubim]] installed everywhere to act as his own telescreens for whatever the fuck he had his minds on.
	**It should be noted that in both 1984 and 40k, the Panopticon both have flaws. You won't get nabbed the first time you do something which The Party does not like, they still have to organize sting operations. In 40k there are even more ~~flaws~~.		**It should be noted that in both 1984 and 40k, the Panopticon both have flaws. You won't get nabbed the first time you do something which The Party does not like, they still have to organize sting operations. Be careful and you can (for a time at least) dodge the Thought Police. In 40k there are even more holes in the net for the upper classes. Nobles can a lot more easily get away with things. More insidious than either is the mindset they instill.

	* '''In The Grim Darkness Of The Far Future There Is only War''': In 1984, eternal war is the best way for Oceania (which is composed of the Americas, the British Isles (called "Airstrip One" in the novel), Iceland, Australia, New Zealand, and southern Africa below the River Congo... [[Skub\|according to Oceania]]) to have their lonely [[Ork\|excuse for fun]]; they wage unnecessary wars with <s>friendly</s> countries that are almost exactly the same as they are, using the lands of unaligned countries as the battlefield, the inhabitants of those areas being forced to live in constant slavery under whichever power controls them at that time. All of this is so they can justify their brutal totalitarian rule, which is in place to preserve the [[Games Workshop\|status quo]]. This involves spending most of their money on building more [[Stormraven\|flying metal boxes]] or floating fortress, a massive waste of force labors that locks up people to build useless cargo ships. The party never giving benefits to their own people who are cramped into [[Hive\|1000 meters-high city prisons for your grandmother to live in]]. Oceania's neighbors (assuming they even exist) are [[Orks\|Eurasia(Europe, Soviet Union and Middle-East)]] and [[Eldar\|Eastasia(all of Northern India and East Asia except for Russia)]], who are just as much of a shithole like Oceania and they are constantly changing sides because they know the war is mutually beneficial. Once they are done [[Promotions\|buttsecks]] with each others for resources, they would backstab their allies and making their old enemy a new ally. Again, they three countries (assuming they are three separate countries, and not just a world-spanning Oceania faking a war with itself, or even just a tiny rogue state spewing all this BS) let their ex-ally backstab them on purpose, just to make sure the war never ends, just to make sure the benefits are always funneling into the national treasury.		* '''In The Grim Darkness Of The Far Future There Is only War''': In 1984, eternal war is the best way for Oceania (which is composed of the Americas, the British Isles (called "Airstrip One" in the novel), Iceland, Australia, New Zealand, and southern Africa below the River Congo... [[Skub\|according to Oceania]]) to have their lonely [[Ork\|excuse for fun]]; they wage unnecessary wars with <s>friendly</s> countries that are almost exactly the same as they are, using the lands of unaligned countries as the battlefield, the inhabitants of those areas being forced to live in constant slavery under whichever power controls them at that time. All of this is so they can justify their brutal totalitarian rule, which is in place to preserve the [[Games Workshop\|status quo]]. This involves spending most of their money on building more [[Stormraven\|flying metal boxes]] or floating fortress, a massive waste of force labors that locks up people to build useless cargo ships. The party never giving benefits to their own people who are cramped into [[Hive\|1000 meters-high city prisons for your grandmother to live in]]. Oceania's neighbors (assuming they even exist) are [[Orks\|Eurasia(Europe, Soviet Union and Middle-East)]] and [[Eldar\|Eastasia(all of Northern India and East Asia except for Russia)]], who are just as much of a shithole like Oceania and they are constantly changing sides because they know the war is mutually beneficial. Once they are done [[Promotions\|buttsecks]] with each others for resources, they would backstab their allies and making their old enemy a new ally. Again, they three countries (assuming they are three separate countries, and not just a world-spanning Oceania faking a war with itself, or even just a tiny rogue state spewing all this BS) let their ex-ally backstab them on purpose, just to make sure the war never ends, just to make sure the benefits are always funneling into the national treasury.