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	==10th Edition==		==10th Edition==
	*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.		*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.
	*'''The Entire Adeptus Mechanicus index:'''While every one took, to varying degrees, a wack with nerf bat this edition, the admech were less hit with it then stabbed 11 times on the ides of March.		*'''The Entire Adeptus Mechanicus index:''' While every one took, to varying degrees, a wack with nerf bat this edition, the admech were less hit with it then stabbed 11 times on the ides of March. Honestly this might even be intentional after how monstrous the 9e codex release was but it's bad.

	==Horus Heresy==		==Horus Heresy==

129.95.250.38: /* 9th Edition */

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9th Edition

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	*'''Try Again. And Again. And Again. And Again... AKA Thermonuclear Frag Grenades''': Try Again Bragg from Gaunt's squad has a special rule that lets him shoot again if his Autocannon gets no hits. Bragg can throw Frag Grenades in exchange for forfeiting Autocannon fire in that shooting phase. Except, not shooting the autocannon means he gets to throw a grenade as he got no Autocannon hits, and since he threw a grenade he got no autocannon hits and thus he gets to throw a grenade and so and so forth until anything from an entire mob of Ork Boyz up to Warlord Titans and Greater Daemons die to Bragg trying again and again and again and again...		*'''Try Again. And Again. And Again. And Again... AKA Thermonuclear Frag Grenades''': Try Again Bragg from Gaunt's squad has a special rule that lets him shoot again if his Autocannon gets no hits. Bragg can throw Frag Grenades in exchange for forfeiting Autocannon fire in that shooting phase. Except, not shooting the autocannon means he gets to throw a grenade as he got no Autocannon hits, and since he threw a grenade he got no autocannon hits and thus he gets to throw a grenade and so and so forth until anything from an entire mob of Ork Boyz up to Warlord Titans and Greater Daemons die to Bragg trying again and again and again and again...
	**I decided to do the math on how long this would take, just for shits and gigs. With void shields, we can effectively say that the Warlord has 144 wounds, at T9, with a 2+ save.		**I decided to do the math on how long this would take, just for shits and gigs. With void shields, we can effectively say that the Warlord has 144 wounds, at T9, with a 2+ save.
	***Frag Grenades: Each grenade would hit 1.16 times, wound 0.19 times, and be reduced to 0.032 after saves. That means it would take '''4,500 frag grenades to kill a warlord titan''', with 2 guaranteed dice rolls (amount of shots and hit rolls), as well as 2 rolls that are unlikely. For the sake of brevity, I've done this math with the assumption that each frag grenade would take 3 rolls, meaning there would be 13500 rolls made. If it takes 5 seconds to roll a D6, '''it would take around 18 hours and 45 minutes of rolling dice to blow up a Warlord Titan in this manner.''' This of course assumes your opponent doesn't forfeit given no matter how long you take, you'll eventually manage it and there's [[Troll\|nothing he can do about it]].		***Frag Grenades: Each grenade would hit 1.16 times, wound 0.19 times, and be reduced to 0.032 after saves. That means it would take '''4,500 frag grenades to kill a warlord titan''', with 2 guaranteed dice rolls (amount of shots and hit rolls), as well as 2 rolls that are unlikely. For the sake of brevity, I've done this math with the assumption that each frag grenade would take 3 rolls, meaning there would be 13500 rolls made. If it takes 5 seconds to roll a D6, '''it would take around 18 hours and 45 minutes of rolling dice to blow up a Warlord Titan in this manner.''' This of course assumes your opponent doesn't forfeit given no matter how long you take, you'll eventually manage it and there's [[Troll\|nothing he can do about it]]. Also that's about 450 kilograms of grenades, roughly a Grizzly Bear worth of hand grenade.
	*'''The Armor of Slight Disapproval''': In the new codex for Chaos Daemons, there is a khornate relic known as the Armor of Scorn which gives the bearer a 4+++ FNP to Mortal Wounds in the Psychic Phase and a +1 Save to any attacks that deal 1 damage. The problem is that daemons have a new form of save [[FAIL\|that cannot be modified for better or for worse. In other words: The +1 save you’d get from this relic doesn’t work.]]		*'''The Armor of Slight Disapproval''': In the new codex for Chaos Daemons, there is a khornate relic known as the Armor of Scorn which gives the bearer a 4+++ FNP to Mortal Wounds in the Psychic Phase and a +1 Save to any attacks that deal 1 damage. The problem is that daemons have a new form of save [[FAIL\|that cannot be modified for better or for worse. In other words: The +1 save you’d get from this relic doesn’t work.]]

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10th Edition

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	==10th Edition==		==10th Edition==
	*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.		*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.
			*'''The Entire Adeptus Mechanicus index:'''While every one took, to varying degrees, a wack with nerf bat this edition, the admech were less hit with it then stabbed 11 times on the ides of March.

	==Horus Heresy==		==Horus Heresy==

1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* Horus Heresy 2.0 */

2023-06-18T01:22:46Z

Horus Heresy 2.0

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	*'''Unidentified Flying Marauder:''' in YET ANOTHER cock up in the Legacies pdf, you'd have thought that whoever wrote it would at LEAST have looked at the models they were making up rules for. [[Fail\|But no.]] the rules for the Marauder Bomber have it equipped with Twin-Linked Autocannons in the nose. However the model that Forgeworld used to sell only ever had Lascannons in the nose slot. Effectively rendering anyone who ever bought that expensive resin model now has an invalid loadout.		*'''Unidentified Flying Marauder:''' in YET ANOTHER cock up in the Legacies pdf, you'd have thought that whoever wrote it would at LEAST have looked at the models they were making up rules for. [[Fail\|But no.]] the rules for the Marauder Bomber have it equipped with Twin-Linked Autocannons in the nose. However the model that Forgeworld used to sell only ever had Lascannons in the nose slot. Effectively rendering anyone who ever bought that expensive resin model now has an invalid loadout.
	*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].		*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].
			*'''Too Spiteful to Excel:''' Perturabo came with the "Firing Protocols (2)" rule, which lets him shoot two separate guns each turn regardless of any restrictions otherwise. Seeing as his super-suit the Logos only came with one gun, this left him with the option of either shooting the Logos a second time (which was a bit hazy as to whether that was actually supposed to work) or use one of those turns of shooting to fix a tank - Which made him really handy for supporting a bunch of siege engines, even if he couldn't also fix his Iron Circle. Come an FAQ and the rule got errata'd out, removing that bit of utility from him and forcing him to either shoot once or focus his shooting phase on fixing a tank.
	*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.		*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.
	*'''Forbidden-er Archeo-tech:''' [[Anacharis Scoria]] is absolutely decked out in wargear, befitting for the guy who founded the Dark Mechanicum. He comes with a "Machina Protectiva", a piece of wargear so rare and secretive that [[Fail\|it doesn't have rules.]] This was later FAQ'ed to be "Mechanicum Protectiva" which does have rules.		*'''Forbidden-er Archeo-tech:''' [[Anacharis Scoria]] is absolutely decked out in wargear, befitting for the guy who founded the Dark Mechanicum. He comes with a "Machina Protectiva", a piece of wargear so rare and secretive that [[Fail\|it doesn't have rules.]] This was later FAQ'ed to be "Mechanicum Protectiva" which does have rules.

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10th Edition

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	==10th Edition==		==10th Edition==
	*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While ~~apparently~~ the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.		*'''Primaris Boyz:''' While the fact that [[Wat\|dying to their own Hazardous weapons lets Hellblasters shoot again on a 3+]] is actually intended according to a designer's note, in true Geedubs fashion the designers haven't considered certain...other...rules interactions with Hellblasters. Specifically, this is the fact that the new Firing Deck X rule makes the '''transport''' fire the weapon in question and the Impulsor can carry Impulsors and has Firing Deck 6. So yes, your Hellblasters can nuke their own <s>Trukk</s> Impulsor and while it has 11 wounds and takes 3 from each failed Hazardous roll, if your opponent was smart they were probably already focus firing it and you'll only need 1 or 2 failed rolls to blow it up and force those 5 Hellblasters to disembark and roll a d6, on a 1 they die [[Fail\|and get to shoot again on a 3+]]. But the [[List of 40K Cheese\|cheddar topping]] on the dish is that, [[Rules Lawyer\|legally]], the Hellblasters are now on the table in the shooting phase, so the survivors may all shoot '''again''' as usual (while a unit may not shoot twice, the Impulsor was the one that shot the guns the first time, not the Hellblasters). And, of course, [[Derp\|any that die to Hazardous from doing so can shoot for a third time on a 3+]]. Truly, Rowboat has shown himself the true master of all forms of combat by incorporating these Ork-tier tactics into Primaris doctrine.

	==Horus Heresy==		==Horus Heresy==

1d4chan>SabbatMartyr: /* Horus Heresy 2.0 */

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Horus Heresy 2.0

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	*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].		*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].
	*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.		*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.
			*'''Forbidden-er Archeo-tech:''' [[Anacharis Scoria]] is absolutely decked out in wargear, befitting for the guy who founded the Dark Mechanicum. He comes with a "Machina Protectiva", a piece of wargear so rare and secretive that [[Fail\|it doesn't have rules.]] This was later FAQ'ed to be "Mechanicum Protectiva" which does have rules.
			*'''Redundant Protocols:''' Scoria again. He is equipped with 2 Archeo-tech Pistols and a Photon Thruster, and to help fire all of them he has ''Firing Protocols (3)''. The problem is that Scoria has the ''Monstrous'' Sub-type, meaning he could already fire all his guns without the ''Firing Protocols'' rule.

	[[Category:Warhammer 40,000]] [[Category:Gamebreaking]] [[Category:Warhammer 40000 Tactics]]		[[Category:Warhammer 40,000]] [[Category:Gamebreaking]] [[Category:Warhammer 40000 Tactics]]

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	*'''Unidentified Flying Marauder:''' in YET ANOTHER cock up in the Legacies pdf, you'd have thought that whoever wrote it would at LEAST have looked at the models they were making up rules for. [[Fail\|But no.]] the rules for the Marauder Bomber have it equipped with Twin-Linked Autocannons in the nose. However the model that Forgeworld used to sell only ever had Lascannons in the nose slot. Effectively rendering anyone who ever bought that expensive resin model now has an invalid loadout.		*'''Unidentified Flying Marauder:''' in YET ANOTHER cock up in the Legacies pdf, you'd have thought that whoever wrote it would at LEAST have looked at the models they were making up rules for. [[Fail\|But no.]] the rules for the Marauder Bomber have it equipped with Twin-Linked Autocannons in the nose. However the model that Forgeworld used to sell only ever had Lascannons in the nose slot. Effectively rendering anyone who ever bought that expensive resin model now has an invalid loadout.
	*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].		*'''"Flanking"? Never heard of that:''' Thanks to one of his rules, "Lightning from Blue Skies", Jaghatai Khan and the unit he has joined do not need a Reserves roll to be brought into play from Reserves. It is also said that if he is part of a Flanking Assault, then this rule applied to all units that are part of that Assault. The problem? [[Fail\|He cannot be part of a Flanking Assault]].
			*'''Too Spiteful to Excel:''' Perturabo came with the "Firing Protocols (2)" rule, which lets him shoot two separate guns each turn regardless of any restrictions otherwise. Seeing as his super-suit the Logos only came with one gun, this left him with the option of either shooting the Logos a second time (which was a bit hazy as to whether that was actually supposed to work) or use one of those turns of shooting to fix a tank - Which made him really handy for supporting a bunch of siege engines, even if he couldn't also fix his Iron Circle. Come an FAQ and the rule got errata'd out, removing that bit of utility from him and forcing him to either shoot once or focus his shooting phase on fixing a tank.
	*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.		*'''Luther's Back-up Plan:''' While Luther's master plan above was defeated by the 2nd Edition...it was replaced by the fact that Cataphractii and Tartaros Deathwing Companions (which, surprise surprise, were in the Legacies PDF) can only be selected for a Master of the Legion with the same type of armour. As the Lion doesn't wear either type, [[Fail\|they can't be chosen for him]], so he has to slog it with the regular Artificer variant.
	*'''Forbidden-er Archeo-tech:''' [[Anacharis Scoria]] is absolutely decked out in wargear, befitting for the guy who founded the Dark Mechanicum. He comes with a "Machina Protectiva", a piece of wargear so rare and secretive that [[Fail\|it doesn't have rules.]] This was later FAQ'ed to be "Mechanicum Protectiva" which does have rules.		*'''Forbidden-er Archeo-tech:''' [[Anacharis Scoria]] is absolutely decked out in wargear, befitting for the guy who founded the Dark Mechanicum. He comes with a "Machina Protectiva", a piece of wargear so rare and secretive that [[Fail\|it doesn't have rules.]] This was later FAQ'ed to be "Mechanicum Protectiva" which does have rules.