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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially called the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog is a brutal ground attack aircraft used by the US military. The A-10 was designed with one purpose in mind: destroying anything and everything that could possibly stand between the US and total victory. [[Dakka|This thing was basically built around the GAU-8 30mm Avenger Gatling Cannon, which fires depleted uranium <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">rounds </del>at up to 4,200 RPM.]] The recoil from which is so powerful that it basically [[Awesome|halves the forward thrust of the two engines while firing.]] If the seven barrels of GAU-8 weren't enough for you, the A-10 also can mount a staggering amount of ordnance on its wing rails, ranging from the devastating Maverick missile, to CBU-52 cluster bombs, to AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles for dealing with helicopters.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially called the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog is a brutal ground attack aircraft used by the US military. The A-10 was designed with one purpose in mind: destroying anything and everything that could possibly stand between the US and total victory. [[Dakka|This thing was basically built around the GAU-8 30mm Avenger Gatling Cannon, which fires depleted uranium <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">shells </ins>at up to 4,200 RPM.]] The recoil from which is so powerful that it basically [[Awesome|halves the forward thrust of the two engines while firing.]] If the seven barrels of GAU-8 weren't enough for you, the A-10 also can mount a staggering amount of ordnance on its wing rails, ranging from the devastating Maverick missile, to CBU-52 cluster bombs, to AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles for dealing with helicopters.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with both flares and chaff) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with both flares and chaff) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and did we mention that the GAU-8 primary munition has a depleted uranium penetrater? You don't want to be breathing heavy metals like that if you can help it</ins>. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td></tr>
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</table>2601:1C0:5001:5320:9D64:8399:B96A:CCD9http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7558&oldid=prev63.193.173.55: /* IRL */2023-05-12T11:40:17Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with both flares and chaff) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with both flares and chaff) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially called the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog is a brutal ground attack aircraft used by the US military. The A-10 was designed with one purpose in mind: destroying anything and everything that could possibly stand between the US and total victory. [[Dakka|This thing was basically built around the GAU-8 30mm Avenger Gatling Cannon, which fires depleted uranium rounds at up to 4,200 RPM.]] The recoil from which is so powerful that it basically [[Awesome|halves the forward thrust of the two engines while firing.]] If the seven barrels of GAU-8 weren't enough for you, the A-10 also can mount a staggering amount of ordnance on its wing rails, ranging from the devastating Maverick missile, to CBU-52 cluster bombs, to AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles for dealing with <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Helicopters</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Officially called the A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog is a brutal ground attack aircraft used by the US military. The A-10 was designed with one purpose in mind: destroying anything and everything that could possibly stand between the US and total victory. [[Dakka|This thing was basically built around the GAU-8 30mm Avenger Gatling Cannon, which fires depleted uranium rounds at up to 4,200 RPM.]] The recoil from which is so powerful that it basically [[Awesome|halves the forward thrust of the two engines while firing.]] If the seven barrels of GAU-8 weren't enough for you, the A-10 also can mount a staggering amount of ordnance on its wing rails, ranging from the devastating Maverick missile, to CBU-52 cluster bombs, to AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles for dealing with <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">helicopters</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>2601:188:C600:C26B:E8B3:1447:A4A3:5518http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7556&oldid=prev1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmings: /* IRL */2023-02-16T22:02:51Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The A-10 was first developed by the US Air Force as a response the US Army's development of the AH 56 Cheyenne. The Army had come to the conclusion that nuclear-armed tactical aircraft aren't all that helpful in a conventional war and had begun to come up with its ground support airframes. The Air Force took one look at the Army's plan and immediately had visions of the Army dominating the close air support niche (and subsequent control of the air support budget), and that would just not do, no sir. When the A-10 was rolled out, the general consensus from the Army was, "This is just what we wanted! That wasn't so hard now was it?" The Air Force brass then had to grit its teeth and spent nearly the next 5 decades trying to get rid of the A-10 at every opportunity, though that [[Fail|didn't quite turn out the way they wanted]]. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The A-10 was first developed by the US Air Force as a response the US Army's development of the AH<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-</ins>56 Cheyenne. The Army had come to the conclusion that nuclear-armed tactical aircraft aren't all that helpful in a conventional war and had begun to come up with its ground support airframes. The Air Force took one look at the Army's plan and immediately had visions of the Army dominating the close air support niche (and subsequent control of the air support budget), and that would just not do, no sir. When the A-10 was rolled out, the general consensus from the Army was, "This is just what we wanted! That wasn't so hard now was it?" The Air Force brass then had to grit its teeth and spent nearly the next 5 decades trying to get rid of the A-10 at every opportunity, though that [[Fail|didn't quite turn out the way they wanted]]. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The Warthog has served in multiple conflicts, like the Gulf War, the Balkans Conflict, The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and most recently in the War on Terror. Originally, there was a plan to retire the A-10 by the year 2022 and replace it with the F-35. However, the defense committee in Congress eventually got tired of the USAF's hateboner for the A-10, and so put the kibosh on their attempts to retire it, effectively telling them to cut that shit out. They concluded that while the F-35 should be good enough (in theory), in the ground attack role and even though the GAU-8 is no longer ''quite'' the ultimate tank killer gun, there really isn't any substitute for the A-10 in the light bomber role. So the A-10 is slated to remain a part of the US Inventory "for the foreseeable future," alongside other mainstay platforms like the B-52 and F-15. Also, whenever the Air Force tries to retire it the Army casually mentions that it wants to buy and refit them and GEE GOLLY WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The Warthog has served in multiple conflicts, like the Gulf War, the Balkans Conflict, The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and most recently in the War on Terror. Originally, there was a plan to retire the A-10 by the year 2022 and replace it with the F-35. However, the defense committee in Congress eventually got tired of the USAF's hateboner for the A-10, and so put the kibosh on their attempts to retire it, effectively telling them to cut that shit out. They concluded that while the F-35 should be good enough (in theory), in the ground attack role and even though the GAU-8 is no longer ''quite'' the ultimate tank killer gun, there really isn't any substitute for the A-10 in the light bomber role. So the A-10 is slated to remain a part of the US Inventory "for the foreseeable future," alongside other mainstay platforms like the B-52 and F-15. Also, whenever the Air Force tries to retire it the Army casually mentions that it wants to buy and refit them and GEE GOLLY WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! </div></td></tr>
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</table>1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmingshttp://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7555&oldid=prev1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmings: /* IRL */2023-02-16T22:02:32Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With re-winging complete, the A-10 will likely serve until the late 2030s. Although a number of different replacements have been proposed from time to time, none are in the pipeline. There were some plans to mod A-10s to be remote controlled/optionally piloted drones, but those programs appear to have been canned. The Ukrainans <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">also </del>asked for <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">100 on there Christmas list </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Uncle Sam: Who promptly said they shoot there eye out and denied it. Leaving aside the practicality on if it would be useful (given some of the junk the Russians are fielding answer says it would not hurt): training time and </del>supply <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of parts </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ammo alone probably be a practical problem.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With re-winging complete, the A-10 will likely serve until the late 2030s. Although a number of different replacements have been proposed from time to time, none are in the pipeline. There were some plans to mod A-10s to be remote controlled/optionally piloted drones, but those programs appear to have been canned. The Ukrainans <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">have </ins>asked for <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">them, and America has pretty much shot that down due </ins>to supply and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">service concerns</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmingshttp://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7554&oldid=prev2601:1C0:4500:A540:4156:952A:2BD0:4BB7: /* IRL */2023-02-16T10:29:30Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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</table>2601:1C0:4500:A540:4156:952A:2BD0:4BB7http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7553&oldid=prev2600:1017:B432:B1FA:C63:14D6:48FF:A4E5: /* IRL */2023-01-26T21:53:57Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with flares) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. (Of course, it does come with <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">both </ins>flares <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and chaff</ins>) While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td></tr>
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</table>2600:1017:B432:B1FA:C63:14D6:48FF:A4E5http://2d4chan.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=A-10_Warthog&diff=7552&oldid=prev2600:1017:B432:B1FA:C63:14D6:48FF:A4E5: /* IRL */2023-01-26T21:48:50Z<p><span class="autocomment">IRL</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All this being said, the A-10 has some serious problems in the modern battlefield. Modernization to prevent friendly fire incidents(something the A-10 does all too frequently) would cost more than the aircraft is worth. The A-10's legendary tank killing abilities also are fiercely debated between aircraft nerds and military buffs. A 1970s test of the aircraft determined that in ideal conditions, the A-10 would perform well, but these tests did not simulate AA fire, air cover, or even have the test tanks moving (To be fair, this would be pretty ambitious, but still) which would substantially alter the results. The A-10 flying at low altitude is also like the Russians and Ukrainians at low altitude: They are trying to evade advanced AA systems. Which is fine, except that the MANPADS(A missile launcher on a grunt that can send an enemy pilot into the shadow realm) are now an essential part of most military force's arsenals now in some way. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(Of course, it does come with flares) </ins>While the A-10 CAN thoroughly eat damage, this does not mean it should, and the aircraft has been shot down. Frontline troops have regularly reported that they hate hearing A-10s are their air support, because with rare exception the GAU-8 tends to throw ammo over a wide area that includes where said frontline troops are. To be fair, they are far less critical when said A-10 decides to throw missiles or bombs at the target rather than just BRRT things to oblivion.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With re-winging complete, the A-10 will likely serve until the late 2030s. Although a number of different replacements have been proposed from time to time, none are in the pipeline. There were some plans to mod A-10s to be remote controlled/optionally piloted drones, but those programs appear to have been canned.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With re-winging complete, the A-10 will likely serve until the late 2030s. Although a number of different replacements have been proposed from time to time, none are in the pipeline. There were some plans to mod A-10s to be remote controlled/optionally piloted drones, but those programs appear to have been canned.</div></td></tr>
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