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Tactics Deck

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	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==

	*'''Baratheon Conviction:''' ~~A combination~~ of ~~Boldness~~ and ~~Courage with True Conviction, ish. Rerolls when you're stuck in combat~~ is great, ~~but requires that pesky Crown, and~~ it~~'s trigger is very hard to~~ get ~~off Turn 1 making it a dead card then. Use it if you can~~, but don't be scared to throw it.		*'''Baratheon Conviction:''' With strong morale faction wide this card won't stay on your hand too long once you clash with your enemy, getting a bit of healing, potential panic damage and token generation out of a passed morale test is great, use it first chance you get, but don't be scared to throw it if you don't think its gonna get used for the turn.

	*'''Sustained Assault:''' Keeps your units effective when beating back something. Best used on offensive units like Sentinels, Rose Knights, or Faithful. Sadly it's rare to get both effects off, but once again we see Boldness and Courage overlap (doesn't allow the +1 hit sadly). Useful, but ~~another meh~~ card.		*'''Sustained Assault:''' Keeps your units effective when beating back something. Best used on offensive units like Sentinels, Rose Knights, or Faithful. Sadly it's rare to get both effects off, but once again we see Boldness and Courage overlap (doesn't allow the +1 hit sadly). Useful, but not a stellar card.

	*'''Oath of Duty:''' A Buff that comes up when you lose a unit, but you can just play this card at the start of any turn so just use it as soon as you can, put it on something you expect to take lots of panic tests or intends to get mixed up the grinder Baratheons are so fond of. Can have a surprising effect, especially combined with Stannis' Tactical Approach, or Iron Resolve making you almost immune to panic.		*'''Oath of Duty:''' A Buff that comes up when you lose a unit, but you can just play this card at the start of any turn so just use it as soon as you can, put it on something you expect to take lots of panic tests or intends to get mixed up the grinder Baratheons are so fond of. Can have a surprising effect, especially combined with Stannis' Tactical Approach, or Iron Resolve making you almost immune to panic, a solid card.

	*'''Final Strike:''' On weaker opponents this is brutal, whenever a cheap enemy unit gets lucky you just pop this and make him suffer the consequences. If your Neutrals/R'hllor/whatever take a lot of wounds throw some back.		*'''Final Strike:''' On weaker opponents this is brutal, whenever a cheap enemy unit gets lucky you just pop this and make him suffer the consequences. If your Neutrals/R'hllor/whatever take a lot of wounds throw some back, no reason not to use it first chance you get either.

	*'''Ours is the Fury!:''' Best card in the deck, so much that King's Men's main ability is to fish it. Giving 3 of the best, and hardest to get for Baratheon, melee abilities. Good even without board control, amazing with it.		*'''Ours is the Fury!:''' Best card in the deck, so much that King's Men's main ability is to fish it. Giving 3 of the best, and hardest to get for Baratheon, melee abilities. Good even without board control, amazing with it.

	*'''Baratheon Justice:''' ~~Very powerful as it’s a rare healing option in the main tactics deck, so especially valuable to~~ Stannis players. Requires control of the letters for full effect, but you should be going for the letters early in most rounds. Use it first chance you get.		*'''Baratheon Justice:''' Stannis Righful Heir players love this card. Requires control of the letters for full effect, but you should be going for the letters early in most rounds. Use it first chance you get to saddle your opponent with EVERY token available for daring to attack your units (remember this works on melee and ranged attack actions).

	*'''Stag's Wit:''' Bounce those tokens back at the enemy, in an edition with so many tokens being able to use you enemy's own token generation and making it work in your favor is great since it keep you units at peak efficiency and makes your enemies abilities work '''for''' you. Turn 1 use them to stop Letter tokens as they're not worth saving however.		*'''Stag's Wit:''' Bounce those tokens back at the enemy, in an edition with so many tokens being able to use you enemy's own token generation and making it work in your favor is great since it keep you units at peak efficiency and makes your enemies abilities work '''for''' you. Turn 1 use them to stop Letter tokens as they're not worth saving however.

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2022-03-07T17:21:45Z

Commander

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	*'''Eldon Estermont - Venerable Knight (4 pts):''' Eldon allows you to replace a tactics zone’s effect with the ability to draw three cards from the top of your deck, shuffling one back ~~in and keeping the other two~~. Very good and flexible, but a zone replace so not always what you want.		*'''Eldon Estermont - Venerable Knight (4 pts):''' Eldon allows you to replace a tactics zone’s effect with the ability to draw three cards from the top of your deck, shuffling one back from your hand (aka, not necesarily one you just drew). Very good and flexible, but a zone replace so not always what you want.

	*'''Margaery Tyrell - Little Rose (4 pts):''' Not enough heals? Bring along the queen-to-be. Margaery synchronizes well with Rose Knights as her ability to heal whenever claiming a tactics board zone lets the Rose Knights’ ability proc. Considering you may not suffer wounds until Turn 3, and most games end at or before Turn 5, the value of her ability is probably only around 3 wounds (and 1 vulnerable) so is outmatched massively by Tycho's on-demand heals. She also needs to claim a zone rather than having tokens or effects that can activate at any time.		*'''Margaery Tyrell - Little Rose (4 pts):''' Not enough heals? Bring along the queen-to-be. Margaery synchronizes well with Rose Knights as her ability to heal whenever claiming a tactics board zone lets the Rose Knights’ ability proc. Considering you may not suffer wounds until Turn 3, and most games end at or before Turn 5, the value of her ability is probably only around 3 wounds (and 1 vulnerable) so is outmatched massively by Tycho's on-demand heals. She also needs to claim a zone rather than having tokens or effects that can activate at any time.

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Cons

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	===Cons===		===Cons===
	*Sundering is rare and hard to come by		*Sundering is rare and hard to come by
			*Two armies split from one faction, so you have less units to pick from at any point in time compared to other factions
	*High damage potential is limited, can struggle against tough, single model units (Giants, Dragons, etc.)		*High damage potential is limited, can struggle against tough, single model units (Giants, Dragons, etc.)
	*Less NCUs available on a whole by virtue of the fact that many of their units are only available to Stannis or Renly		*Less NCUs available on a whole by virtue of the fact that many of their units are only available to Stannis or Renly
	*You are the slowest army in the game		*You are the slowest army in the game
	*The zones you want to use during game don't often line up with those you want for card bonuses		*The zones you want to use during game don't often line up with those you want for card bonuses
	*Renly is the ~~best thing in~~ the ~~world since Swiss cheese~~.		*Renly has the worst claim to the throne out of every other choice.
	*Stannis burns children		*Stannis burns children

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	*'''Loras Tyrell - King’s Squire (2 pts):''' 2pt units are hard to justify in general. Loras brings Duellist and Precision, giving you a way to break through strong armour, debatably pairing best with Vicious (Bolton Blackguard maybe). Suffers mainly from having few units with multiple attacks at the 6pt bracket where you'd normally put a 2pt attachment. Consider in Renly Paramount Commander so if he dies you can reuse ~~him~~ expensive ass.		*'''Loras Tyrell - King’s Squire (2 pts):''' 2pt units are hard to justify in general. Loras brings Duellist and Precision, giving you a way to break through strong armour, debatably pairing best with Vicious (Bolton Blackguard maybe). Suffers mainly from having few units with multiple attacks at the 6pt bracket where you'd normally put a 2pt attachment. Consider in Renly Paramount Commander so if he dies you can reuse his expensive ass.

	*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' Extra shifts for your slow army are very good, especially at 3" as that's more than Swift Advance. Replacing the Crown, a zone you dislike, with more movement is also good. Unfortunately both these abilities become far less useful when units get in combat as they don't allow retreats. Potentially worth the points, depending on Renly's upcoming units and Thorn Watch changes. Otherwise can probably pull off some fun with Dervishes, Bastard Girls, and Zhore Riders (preventing the pivot means they could retreat from a front charge then be in the rear when they activate). An attachment that buffs other units, and thus stacks that the units attachments, can be very valuable. Keep him central and supported.		*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' Extra shifts for your slow army are very good, especially at 3" as that's more than Swift Advance. Replacing the Crown, a zone you dislike, with more movement is also good. Unfortunately both these abilities become far less useful when units get in combat as they don't allow retreats. Potentially worth the points, depending on Renly's upcoming units and Thorn Watch changes. Otherwise can probably pull off some fun with Dervishes, Bastard Girls, and Zhore Riders (preventing the pivot means they could retreat from a front charge then be in the rear when they activate). An attachment that buffs other units, and thus stacks that the units attachments, can be very valuable. Keep him central and supported.
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	*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts)''' Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.		*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts)''' Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.

	*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts)''' Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, ~~though~~ Renly Pikemen stats ~~aren't yet released so this is best guess~~. Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).		*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts)''' Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. Also has a lot of overlap with two Baratheon tactics cards where his +1 attack die doesn't trigger. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, (best guess at Renly Pikemen stats). Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ and maybe 4+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).

	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==

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Tactics Deck

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	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==

	*'''Baratheon Conviction:''' ~~Better on high morale units since~~ you ~~need to keep passing panic tests~~ to get ~~the benefit, so Rhllor and Rose knights like~~ it ~~better that Wardens or neutrals~~. ~~Can really up the power of a unit like Lightbringers~~, ~~which can take panic test on their own terms with Red Priestess or commander cards~~.		*'''Baratheon Conviction:''' A combination of Boldness and Courage with True Conviction, ish. Rerolls when you're stuck in combat is great, but requires that pesky Crown, and it's trigger is very hard to get off Turn 1 making it a dead card then. Use it if you can, but don't be scared to throw it.

	*'''Sustained Assault:''' Keeps your units effective when beating back something. Best used on offensive units like Sentinels, Rose Knights, or Faithful. ~~Try~~ to ~~bait the charge with Wardens, negate their charge bonus with the Master Warden~~, ~~then beat~~ the ~~snot outta them~~. ~~This also works with attacks made with the Swords spot~~, ~~making this card the premiere grinder~~ card ~~in your arsenal~~.		*'''Sustained Assault:''' Keeps your units effective when beating back something. Best used on offensive units like Sentinels, Rose Knights, or Faithful. Sadly it's rare to get both effects off, but once again we see Boldness and Courage overlap (doesn't allow the +1 hit sadly). Useful, but another meh card.

	*'''Oath of Duty:''' A Buff that comes up when you lose a unit, but you can just play this card at the start of any turn so just use it as soon as you can, put it on something you expect to take lots of panic tests or intends to get mixed up the grinder Baratheons are so fond of.		*'''Oath of Duty:''' A Buff that comes up when you lose a unit, but you can just play this card at the start of any turn so just use it as soon as you can, put it on something you expect to take lots of panic tests or intends to get mixed up the grinder Baratheons are so fond of. Can have a surprising effect, especially combined with Stannis' Tactical Approach, or Iron Resolve making you almost immune to panic.

	*'''Final Strike:''' On weaker opponents this is brutal, whenever a ~~chep~~ enemy unit gets lucky you just pop this and make him suffer the consequences~~, units like Raiders or poor fellows will probably do as much damage to themselves as they did to you~~.		*'''Final Strike:''' On weaker opponents this is brutal, whenever a cheap enemy unit gets lucky you just pop this and make him suffer the consequences. If your Neutrals/R'hllor/whatever take a lot of wounds throw some back.

	*'''Ours is the Fury!:''' ~~Easy peazy smashing squishys, this is probably the simplest~~ card in the deck ~~and by no means a weak one~~, ~~rewards control~~ of the ~~tactics~~ board ~~and lets units punch way above their weight class~~.		*'''Ours is the Fury!:''' Best card in the deck, so much that King's Men's main ability is to fish it. Giving 3 of the best, and hardest to get for Baratheon, melee abilities. Good even without board control, amazing with it.

	*'''Baratheon Justice:''' Very powerful as it’s a rare healing option in the main tactics deck, so especially valuable to Stannis players. Requires control of the letters for full effect, but you should be going for the letters early in most rounds.		*'''Baratheon Justice:''' Very powerful as it’s a rare healing option in the main tactics deck, so especially valuable to Stannis players. Requires control of the letters for full effect, but you should be going for the letters early in most rounds. Use it first chance you get.

	*'''Stag's Wit:''' Bounce those tokens back at the enemy, in an edition with so many tokens being able to use you enemy's own token generation and making it work in your favor is great since it keep you units at peak efficiency and makes your enemies abilities work '''for''' you.		*'''Stag's Wit:''' Bounce those tokens back at the enemy, in an edition with so many tokens being able to use you enemy's own token generation and making it work in your favor is great since it keep you units at peak efficiency and makes your enemies abilities work '''for''' you. Turn 1 use them to stop Letter tokens as they're not worth saving however.

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

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			*'''Loras Tyrell - King’s Squire (2 pts):''' 2pt units are hard to justify in general. Loras brings Duellist and Precision, giving you a way to break through strong armour, debatably pairing best with Vicious (Bolton Blackguard maybe). Suffers mainly from having few units with multiple attacks at the 6pt bracket where you'd normally put a 2pt attachment. Consider in Renly Paramount Commander so if he dies you can reuse him expensive ass.

	*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' ~~When attached~~, ~~Penrose increases your hand size by 1~~. ~~Simple and effective~~, ~~but it’s really up to~~ you. ~~Do you find yourself often short~~ on ~~cards? Mixing this attachment with Eldon Estermont as an NCU can solve that problem~~. ~~As Rose Knights~~ can ~~excel even without~~ a ~~dedicated~~ attachment, ~~that’s a good place for~~ him ~~to go if you have the points~~.		*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' Extra shifts for your slow army are very good, especially at 3" as that's more than Swift Advance. Replacing the Crown, a zone you dislike, with more movement is also good. Unfortunately both these abilities become far less useful when units get in combat as they don't allow retreats. Potentially worth the points, depending on Renly's upcoming units and Thorn Watch changes. Otherwise can probably pull off some fun with Dervishes, Bastard Girls, and Zhore Riders (preventing the pivot means they could retreat from a front charge then be in the rear when they activate). An attachment that buffs other units, and thus stacks that the units attachments, can be very valuable. Keep him central and supported.

	*'''~~Loras Tyrell~~ - ~~King’s Squire~~ (2 pts):''' ~~Attachment Loras provides “Precision”, allowing no saves on attack rolls of a 6~~. ~~Unless you find yourself going up against a heavily armored opponent~~, ~~this~~ is ~~a bit expensive~~. ~~Go for broke with the Crit Blow / Precision combo by putting him~~ in Stag Knights ~~for a whopping 10 points~~, ~~but maybe have Renly Charismatic Heir commander nearby to make sure they're on a 4+ morale and are sticking around~~.		*'''Brienne - The Blue (1 pts):''' Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon. Free actions, and not an order! Position right and if your beloved Renly is attacked you can repeatedly bash the assailant. Consider in Neutrals such as Stormcrow Archers, as not many Baratheon units really take full advantage of her (Sentinels already have counter charge, Stag Knights should be taking charges not waiting to punish, etc).

	*'''~~Brienne - The Blue~~ (0 pts):''' ~~Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon~~. ~~Brienne~~ is ~~a free attachment for~~ any ~~unit not including Renly with a bodyguard ability that activates once Renly’s unit has been attached~~. The unit ~~Brienne The Blue is~~ attached to ~~gets a free attack~~ or ~~charge against the attacker,~~ and that unit ~~rolls +2 dice~~. ~~Absent Renly she has no place~~ in ~~a list,~~ but ~~placing both Renly and Brienne in two units of Rose Knights~~ is ~~a deadly combination. Keep her close and dare your opponent to charge~~.		*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts)''' Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.

	*'''~~Thorn Guard Sentinel~~ (1 pts) Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn'~~t necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.~~		*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts)''' Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, though Renly Pikemen stats aren't yet released so this is best guess. Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).

	*''~~'Pikeman Captain (1 pts)~~ Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, though Renly Pikemen stats aren't yet released so this is best guess. Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).

	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==

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	*'''Brienne - The Blue (0 pts):''' Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon. Brienne is a free attachment for any unit not including Renly with a bodyguard ability that activates once Renly’s unit has been attached. The unit Brienne The Blue is attached to gets a free attack or charge against the attacker, and that unit rolls +2 dice. Absent Renly she has no place in a list, but placing both Renly and Brienne in two units of Rose Knights is a deadly combination. Keep her close and dare your opponent to charge.		*'''Brienne - The Blue (0 pts):''' Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon. Brienne is a free attachment for any unit not including Renly with a bodyguard ability that activates once Renly’s unit has been attached. The unit Brienne The Blue is attached to gets a free attack or charge against the attacker, and that unit rolls +2 dice. Absent Renly she has no place in a list, but placing both Renly and Brienne in two units of Rose Knights is a deadly combination. Keep her close and dare your opponent to charge.

	*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts) ~~(Announced~~ and ~~previewed):''' There~~ is ~~no mention of the "Thorn Guard" in either the books or the shows~~, ~~but it is likely that they serve a leadership role within Renly~~'~~s military apparatus~~ and ~~are likely part of the House Tyrell contingent of his forces~~. ~~The Sentinel provides "Parry"~~, ~~a solid ability that works well when dealing with heavily armored~~ or ~~heavy duty single units~~. Rose Knights ~~can often find themselves without an~~ attachment~~, so~~ that ~~seems like an ideal placement~~.		*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts) Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.

	*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts) ~~(Announced~~ and ~~previewed):~~''' ~~The Pikeman Captain brings "Dauntless",~~ the ability ~~Rose Knights have that gives~~ them ~~back a wound when~~ they ~~pass a morale test. I would recommend against taking this~~ on ~~Wardens~~ or ~~Sentinels as they suffer average to poor morale~~. It'~~s more likely~~ this ~~attachment will synchronize better with later Renly attachments, but that's conjecture for now~~. ~~It's~~ a ~~shame this~~ is a ~~Renly loyalty~~, as ~~it would work well~~ with ~~Stannis' forced Morale tests from cards~~		*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts) Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, though Renly Pikemen stats aren't yet released so this is best guess. Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).

	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==

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Army Building

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	Somewhere between a joke list and a serious one, but an evolution of the only viable option Baratheon had back during their release. Flood the board with 3+ Wardens to play the objective game. Davos commander allows you to outflank one, alternatively Davos attachment allows you to use a backline unit (Wardens or Stormcrows) to heal up your beefy boys. Consider auto 6 charge role options (Commanders or Devan) to give bursts of speed to your units, and always take Tycho.		Somewhere between a joke list and a serious one, but an evolution of the only viable option Baratheon had back during their release. Flood the board with 3+ Wardens to play the objective game. Davos commander allows you to outflank one, alternatively Davos attachment allows you to use a backline unit (Wardens or Stormcrows) to heal up your beefy boys. Consider auto 6 charge role options (Commanders or Devan) to give bursts of speed to your units, and always take Tycho.

			'''Champions Immovable'''

			2 Champions of the Stag. Move as fast as possible on the middle objectives. Renly version has extra healing and uses Penrose to shutdown enemy offensive cards and fish for Ours is the Fury (which you'll need), or can take Loras in Rose Knights to have 3 immovable anvils with some bite. Stannis version uses Davos commander to just deny enemy activations, and has access to Lightbringer and Noble support. The issue is that Cavalry are two ranks, so you'll need to strip a rank off the opponent. Since you'll be moving on the objective early that can be hard as you might not have the charge, and Renly especially struggles with finding supplementary units which can shift the enemy anvils most likely to bog your Champions down.

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	*'''Loras Tyrell - The Knight of Flowers:''' The knight beloved by the smallfolk is a monster. Loras is a full on defensive choice with strong healing options and some additional punch in combat. Loras’ unit benefits from either dealing an additional wound every attack or, on a 3+ roll, killing the enemy unit’s attachment and getting a wound back each time they pass a morale test. All three of his tactics cards contribute to an defensive playstyle with two getting extra benefits from keeping close to Loras’ unit. Of all of the commanders available to Renly, Loras is the most straightforward, you can be aggressive or defensive with him and he'll allow you to weather the storm each time.		*'''Loras Tyrell - The Knight of Flowers:''' The knight beloved by the smallfolk is a monster. Loras is a full on defensive choice with strong healing options and some additional punch in combat. Loras’ unit benefits from either dealing an additional wound every attack or, on a 3+ roll, killing the enemy unit’s attachment and getting a wound back each time they pass a morale test. All three of his tactics cards contribute to an defensive playstyle with two getting extra benefits from keeping close to Loras’ unit. Of all of the commanders available to Renly, Loras is the most straightforward, you can be aggressive or defensive with him and he'll allow you to weather the storm each time.

	*'''Eldon Estermont: Lord of Greenstone''' A very interesting~~, if bizarre~~, set of cards and abilities sets Eldon apart from the other commanders. With a strong ~~deck available~~ to Baratheon players, Eldon’s ability to dump a ~~card to place a condition~~ token ~~on an enemy in short~~ range can be ~~powerful but it requires Eldon to keep close~~ to ~~an enemy~~. Unfortunately, his “Battle Endurance” tactics card ~~wants to keep you out of combat~~ until at least turn 3. His “Hefty Ransom” is a fun card that will very, very rarely be worth it, but if you can pull it ~~out for a last round victory~~, ~~that’s~~ a ~~story to tell for months. Your weakest option, overall~~.		*'''Eldon Estermont: Lord of Greenstone''' A very interesting, set of cards and abilities sets Eldon apart from the other commanders. With a strong defensive profile to Baratheon players Eldon’s ability to dump a Vulnerable token at long range can patch up your lackluster offensive power, and with Hardened whatever unit he gets into will be incredibly hard to shift. Unfortunately, his “Battle Endurance” tactics card wont do anything until at least turn 3 but since it attaches you can just put it on something aerly on and get the draws for next turn. His “Hefty Ransom” is a fun card that will very, very rarely be worth it, but if you can pull it off early on (Loras, Vargo, whether your or your opponent's) it can change the whole match. Considered the strongest version of this character and a very solid commander.

	*'''Cortnay Penrose: Castellan of Storm’s End''' Bonkers. Mental. Insane. Bananas. Cortnay Penrose, pre-shadow murder, is a ~~terror~~. ~~As the sole NCU commander available to Renly players, Penrose fills out the three NCU builds popular across the factions nicely, but it only gets better~~ from ~~there. When activated, Penrose may influence an enemy unit. Whenever~~ the ~~influenced unit is targeted on the tactics board by either player~~, ~~a friendly unit within long range may heal d3 wounds. Penrose should be played as soon as possible every round~~ to ~~maximize the healing potential~~ and ~~you can force your opponent to seriously reconsider their own moves on the tactics board~~ with ~~that amount~~ of ~~healing going off. His tactics cards are equally brutal. Not only does~~ he ~~feature more healing potential, he also has the chance~~ to ~~turn off enemy abilities when they attack~~, ~~and he’s holding two “Counterplots” in~~ the ~~deck. If~~ you ~~like manipulation~~ and control ~~of the table through abilities, Penrose is~~ a ~~fantastic~~ commander~~. Top tier~~.		*'''Cortnay Penrose: Castellan of Storm’s End''' Bonkers. Mental. Insane. Bananas. Cortnay Penrose, pre-shadow murder, is a doozy. Without any combat buffs you want him far from the fight, Issue Commands means he can pass off his activation to let other units use it and with Orders of the cronw he won't need it to reposition out of danger, getting cards out of the discard pile also nets you greater tactical flexibility and finally Counterplot the quintessential control tactics card cements him as a backfield commander, either Stormcrow Archers if you want him actively contributing when not passing activations or Wardens and the upcoming Pikemen to get more out of said activations.

	====Units====		====Units====

	*'''Rose Knights (7pt):''' 4” move and a 3+ save, Rose Knights have the same issue as Queen's Men; Warden stats without 2pts of improvements. Now more expensive and lacking native Dauntless they're a slow unit, albeit do have some ~~Reply~~ synergy. Unlike Queens Men though Renly's decks don't have as much access to attack buffs (Sundering, Vicious, CB) so it's harder to take advantage of the 3+ attack value. Consider as a Commander bunker for Loras if you're keen.		*'''Rose Knights (7pt):''' 4” move and a 3+ save, Rose Knights have the same issue as Queen's Men; Warden stats without 2pts of improvements. Now more expensive and lacking native Dauntless they're a slow unit, albeit do have some Renly synergy. Unlike Queens Men though Renly's decks don't have as much access to attack buffs (Sundering, Vicious, CB) so it's harder to take advantage of the 3+ attack value. Consider as a Commander bunker for Loras or Renly if you're keen, they will hold the line and chip away at the enemy while theyre at it. Eldon makes them a serious threat with battle endurance, also Loras Attachement makes them something to worry about albeit at 9pts.

	*'''Thorn Watch (~~7pt~~):''' Oh no, ~~the stats of a 6pt once again, or even worse. No~~ range to melee synergy (retreat and shoot, or vice versa), 4+ in melee, terrible defence so their heal ability isn't that valuable. A very badly balanced unit that is generally agreed to be useless.		*'''Thorn Watch (6pt):''' Oh no, no range to melee synergy (retreat and shoot, or vice versa), 4+ in melee, terrible defence so their heal ability isn't that valuable. A very badly balanced unit that is generally agreed to be useless, they need serious support to be actually good and you can get more out of other units without having to jump through hoops for it.

			*'''Highgarden Pikemen (Leaked)(5pt):''' Pike basic infantry, not too much to say about their basic profile since they are 5 points after all, but their improved charges (potential 10 hits before buffs) and little regen lets them fill a more offensive oriented role that Wardens don't. Master Wardens make them excellent line grinders while Brienne Maid of Tarth can make them effective hunters. Personally a much more interesting choice than Wardens for basic infantry but they maybe need one better point of morale to really compete at the role.

	====Non-Combat Units====		====Non-Combat Units====

	*'''Eldon Estermont - Venerable Knight (4 pts):''' Eldon allows you to replace a tactics zone’s effect with the ability to draw three cards from the top of your deck, shuffling one back from your hand (aka, not necesarily one you just drew). Very good and flexible, but a zone replace so not always what you want.		*'''Eldon Estermont - Venerable Knight (4 pts):''' Eldon allows you to replace a tactics zone’s effect with the ability to draw three cards from the top of your deck, shuffling one back from your hand (aka, not necesarily one you just drew). Very good and flexible, but a zone replace so not always what you want besides the fact that his commander version is stronger.

	*'''Margaery Tyrell - Little Rose (4 pts):''' Not enough heals? Bring along the queen-to-be. Margaery synchronizes well with Rose Knights as her ability to heal whenever claiming a tactics board zone lets the Rose Knights’ ability proc. Considering you may not suffer wounds until Turn 3, and most games end at or before Turn 5, the value of her ability is probably only around 3 wounds (and 1 vulnerable) so is outmatched massively by Tycho's on-demand heals. She also needs to claim a zone rather than having tokens or effects that can activate at any time.		*'''Margaery Tyrell - Little Rose (4 pts):''' Not enough heals? Bring along the queen-to-be. Margaery synchronizes well with Rose Knights as her ability to heal whenever claiming a tactics board zone lets the Rose Knights’ ability proc. Considering you may not suffer wounds until Turn 3, and most games end at or before Turn 5, the value of her ability is probably only around 3 wounds (and 1 vulnerable) so is outmatched massively by Tycho's on-demand heals. She also needs to claim a zone rather than having tokens or effects that can activate at any time.
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	*'''Olenna Tyrell - Queen of Thorns (5 pts):''' The matriarch of House Tyrell is tired of your bullshit. Dealing with nonsense from Walder Frey? Mance Rayder? Melisandre? Whatever NCU is vexing you gets to take a seat with Olenna in play as her ability shuts down an NCU’s ability when she claims a tactics zone. Make sure you play her early enough to not get shut out as she is five points. Expensive, powerful, annoying. Her secondary effect can be good to get early tokens down and poke at those 5+ armour enemies if there's no scary NCUs.		*'''Olenna Tyrell - Queen of Thorns (5 pts):''' The matriarch of House Tyrell is tired of your bullshit. Dealing with nonsense from Walder Frey? Mance Rayder? Melisandre? Whatever NCU is vexing you gets to take a seat with Olenna in play as her ability shuts down an NCU’s ability when she claims a tactics zone. Make sure you play her early enough to not get shut out as she is five points. Expensive, powerful, annoying. Her secondary effect can be good to get early tokens down and poke at those 5+ armour enemies if there's no scary NCUs.

	*'''Cortnay Penrose (4 pts):''' His old Commander form, now as an NCU. Token play (always the best form of NCU) to give very good healing if NCUs take a zone you specify. Make invincible Champion lists, annoying Rose Knight lists, or generally just revive something from the brink of death. Flexible and highly advised as basically a better Tycho.		*'''Cortnay Penrose (4 pts):''' His old Commander form, now as an NCU. Token play (always the best form of NCU) to give very good healing if NCUs take a zone you specify. Make invincible Champion's of the Stag lists, annoying Rose Knight lists, or generally just revive something from the brink of death. Flexible and highly advised as basically a better Tycho.

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	*'''Loras Tyrell - King’s Squire (2 pts):''' 2pt ~~units~~ are hard to justify in general. Loras brings Duellist and Precision, giving you a way to break through strong armour, debatably pairing best with Vicious (Bolton Blackguard maybe). Suffers mainly from having few units with multiple attacks at the 6pt bracket where you'd normally put a 2pt attachment. Consider in Renly Paramount Commander so if he dies you can reuse his expensive ass.		*'''Loras Tyrell - King’s Squire (2 pts):''' 2pt attachements are hard to justify in general. Loras brings Duellist and Precision, giving you a way to break through strong armour, debatably pairing best with Vicious (Bolton Blackguard maybe). Suffers mainly from having few units with multiple attacks at the 6pt bracket where you'd normally put a 2pt attachment. Consider in Renly Paramount Commander so if he dies you can reuse his expensive ass.

	*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' Extra shifts for your slow army are very good, especially at 3" as that's more than Swift Advance. Replacing the Crown, a zone you dislike, with more movement is also good. Unfortunately both these abilities become far less useful when units get in combat as they don't allow retreats. Potentially worth the points, depending on Renly's upcoming units and Thorn Watch changes. Otherwise can probably pull off some fun with Dervishes, Bastard Girls, and ~~Zhore~~ Riders (preventing the pivot means they could retreat from a front charge then be in the rear when they activate). An attachment that buffs other units, and thus stacks that the units attachments, can be very valuable~~. Keep him central~~ and ~~supported~~.		*'''Cortnay Penrose - Reliable Castellan (2 pts):''' Extra shifts for your slow army are very good, especially at 3" as that's more than Swift Advance. Replacing the Crown, a zone you dislike, with more movement is also good. Unfortunately both these abilities become far less useful when units get in combat as they don't allow retreats. Potentially worth the points, depending on Renly's upcoming units and Thorn Watch changes. Otherwise can probably pull off some fun with Dervishes, Bastard Girls, and Zhorse Riders (preventing the pivot means they could retreat from a front charge then be in the rear when they activate). An attachment that buffs other units, and thus stacks that the units attachments, can be very valuable but his NCU version can have more overall value and cements you more on the healing defensive playstyle.

	*'''Brienne - The Blue (1 pts):''' Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon. Free actions, and not an order! Position right and if your beloved Renly is attacked you can repeatedly bash the assailant. Consider in Neutrals such as Stormcrow Archers, as not many Baratheon units really take full advantage of her (Sentinels already have counter charge, Stag Knights should be taking charges not waiting to punish, etc).		*'''Brienne - The Blue (1 pts):''' Brienne in her Rainbow Guard (good luck painting the cape) attire serves as the bodyguard to King Renly Baratheon. Free actions, and not an order! Position right and if your beloved Renly is attacked you can repeatedly bash the assailant. Consider in Neutrals such as Stormcrow Archers, as not many Baratheon units really take full advantage of her (Sentinels already have counter charge, Stag Knights should be taking charges not waiting to punish, etc).
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	*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts)''' Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.		*'''Thorn Guard Sentinel (1 pts)''' Dauntless and Pathfinder. The former is nice to have on your high morale units, although you don't have any ways to manually trigger tests unlike Stannis. The latter can be game-changing, allowing you to lay terrain aggressively and your alpha strike unit to ignore it. As Thorn Watch can't afford to be any more expensive, probably better attached to Sentinels or Bastard Girls. They can be added to Rose Knights/Wardens for that extra wound potential and to prevent a bog making your march into a horrific 7" but it may be better to just deploy that unit better in regard to terrain. A solid attachment that doesn't necessarily shine in non-Neutral units but is all round useful.

	*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts)''' Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. Also has a lot of overlap with two Baratheon tactics cards where his +1 attack die doesn't trigger. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7, (~~best guess at~~ Renly Pikemen stats). Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ and maybe 4+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).		*'''Pikeman Captain (1 pts)''' Boldness and Courage is essentially the Renly version of True Conviction. While you don't need less ranks, it isn't as powerful (normally only adding 1 dice unless you're at 1 rank) and all the True Conviction units have a secondary ability. Also has a lot of overlap with two Baratheon tactics cards where his +1 attack die doesn't trigger. This unit at least isn't unique, so you could take lots of them, and they also pair better on the charge or when you're fully healed. Makes Pikemen into a strong 8/7/7 (as of leaked Renly Pikemen stats). Can make Bastard Girls into a horrific 7+5 attacks which is enough to one shot 5+ and maybe 4+ units with a failed panic, so long as you can keep them on full ranks (shouldn't be hard with their 6 speed).

	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==