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Attachement

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	*'''Brienne Maid of Tarth (2pts):''' Make your unit a heat seeking missile, better morale and Knightly Vow make sure whatever you attach her to will make it to its target, Bastard's Girls love her, Ranger Hunters love her too, Sunspear Dervishes, the list goes on, anything that wants to devastate something with one or multiple charges loves her.		*'''Brienne Maid of Tarth (2pts):''' Make your unit a heat seeking missile, better morale and Knightly Vow make sure whatever you attach her to will make it to its target, Bastard's Girls love her, Ranger Hunters love her too, Sunspear Dervishes, the list goes on, anything that wants to devastate something with one or multiple charges loves her.

	*'''Vargo Hoat (2pts):''' This guy, he's a lot of people's nightmare, fighting him is what turns boys into men. He gives the unit Vicious, no biggie, and makes it so enemies that fail panic tests caused by his unit become weakened, anot bad prolly still within the 1 point mark at this point. Sadistic Mutilation, letting you spend a weakened token after completing an attack to destroy an attachement, THIS is what makes Vargo terrifying since if you were weakened before he attacked he ~~doesnt~~ even need to deal damage to your unit, he just plucks the attachement out of the unit and tears their organs out, not that he needs it since he's his own engine for weakened tokens, this ability is even better than its competitor Expert Duelist since its less random by requiring some minor setup, he is a superb intimidation tool and will make your enemy tremble if he ~~doesnt~~ wipe him before he has a chance to kill his commander.		*'''Vargo Hoat (2pts):''' This guy, he's a lot of people's nightmare, fighting him is what turns boys into men. He gives the unit Vicious, no biggie, and makes it so enemies that fail panic tests caused by his unit become weakened, anot bad prolly still within the 1 point mark at this point. Sadistic Mutilation, letting you spend a weakened token after completing an attack to destroy an attachement, THIS is what makes Vargo terrifying since if you were weakened before he attacked he doesn't even need to deal damage to your unit, he just plucks the attachement out of the unit and tears their organs out, not that he needs it since he's his own engine for weakened tokens, this ability is even better than its competitor Expert Duelist since its less random by requiring some minor setup, he is a superb intimidation tool and will make your enemy tremble if he doesn't wipe him before he has a chance to kill his commander.

	*'''Golden Company Officer (2pts):''' Dauntless? meh. Immunity to enemy NCU Influence, Orders and enemy tactics cards might as well be worth 2 points on its own. A shame he comes with the Golden company swordsment cause he's good, hes a great piece for long range units to keep them safe from panic bombs or what have you.		*'''Golden Company Officer (2pts):''' Dauntless? meh. Immunity to enemy NCU Influence, Orders and enemy tactics cards might as well be worth 2 points on its own. A shame he comes with the Golden company swordsment cause he's good, hes a great piece for long range units to keep them safe from panic bombs or what have you.

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Non-Combat Units

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	*'''Roose Bolton (4pt):''' Token players love him, he can put a Panicked token each time he activates up to 3 times, with additional uses of this ability available by replacing zone effects. A zone replace is good and fueling his token game when you take a zone you don't want is not bad at all. Of course, he works way better on panic heavy armies.		*'''Roose Bolton (4pt):''' Token players love him, he can put a Panicked token each time he activates up to 3 times, with additional uses of this ability available by replacing zone effects. A zone replace is good and fueling his token game when you take a zone you don't want is not bad at all. Of course, he works way better on panic heavy armies.

	*'''Petyr Baelish (4pt):''' THE zone replace guy, he can replace any zone effect with another one, zap with the horses, restore wounds with the cards, sky's the limit, but thats not all, once per game you can count as controlling a zone for the rest of the round, letting you get all those big effects even if you don't have control of the board. If you don't know what to bring and only have 4 for an NCU he ~~doesnt~~ dissapoint.		*'''Petyr Baelish (4pt):''' THE zone replace guy, he can replace any zone effect with another one, zap with the horses, restore wounds with the cards, sky's the limit, but thats not all, once per game you can count as controlling a zone for the rest of the round, letting you get all those big effects even if you don't have control of the board. If you don't know what to bring and only have 4 for an NCU he doesn't dissapoint.

	*'''Lord Varys (5pt):''' THE reactive plays guy, up to 4 times per game he can get a mini-zone effect when your enemy claims a spot, the effect is of course related to what your enemy claimed. Drawing a card is rarely bad, restoring wounds lets you equalize fights, hits or a panic can knock an enemy down a rank before you activate and finish off that unit. Like Petyr, he's the one you bring if you don't know and have 5 points to spare.		*'''Lord Varys (5pt):''' THE reactive plays guy, up to 4 times per game he can get a mini-zone effect when your enemy claims a spot, the effect is of course related to what your enemy claimed. Drawing a card is rarely bad, restoring wounds lets you equalize fights, hits or a panic can knock an enemy down a rank before you activate and finish off that unit. Like Petyr, he's the one you bring if you don't know and have 5 points to spare.

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Units

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	*'''Golden Company Crossbowmen (8pt):''' Crossbowmen make a more compelling argument for themselves, being easily comparable to Lannister Crossbowmen they barely edge out in value by packing Sentinel, letting you maneuver them off of enemy attacks and letting you set up some nasty side or rear attacks, but still at that price range Flayed men, Knights and Honour Guard of Casterly Rock, Cavaliers, Champions of the Stag, are all choices that are just as killy, just as maneuverable and honestly way more resilient.		*'''Golden Company Crossbowmen (8pt):''' Crossbowmen make a more compelling argument for themselves, being easily comparable to Lannister Crossbowmen they barely edge out in value by packing Sentinel, letting you maneuver them off of enemy attacks and letting you set up some nasty side or rear attacks, but still at that price range Flayed men, Knights and Honour Guard of Casterly Rock, Cavaliers, Champions of the Stag, are all choices that are just as killy, just as maneuverable and honestly way more resilient.

	*'''Golden Company War Elephant(7pt):''' You can only bring one of these for each Golden Company Swordsmen or Crossbowmen you pack along, meaning you can't get 2 of these outside of a Neutral army. This thing kicks ass and looks good while doing so, it ignores defense saves which makes it great at cracking heavily armored units. Now if you know your opponent wont be packing stuff with Order:Shieldwall or Hardened or Resilience you're golden (heh) but since it ~~doesnt~~ have the same thing as the giants of inflicting straight up wounds it can get neutered hard by units with Auto-blocks like what was mentioned before. So in the end while it looks great and is a great intimidation piece, it isnt worth its price of 7ps alongside an overcosted GC unit.		*'''Golden Company War Elephant(7pt):''' You can only bring one of these for each Golden Company Swordsmen or Crossbowmen you pack along, meaning you can't get 2 of these outside of a Neutral army. This thing kicks ass and looks good while doing so, it ignores defense saves which makes it great at cracking heavily armored units. Now if you know your opponent wont be packing stuff with Order:Shieldwall or Hardened or Resilience you're golden (heh) but since it doesn't have the same thing as the giants of inflicting straight up wounds it can get neutered hard by units with Auto-blocks like what was mentioned before. So in the end while it looks great and is a great intimidation piece, it isnt worth its price of 7ps alongside an overcosted GC unit.

	====Non-Combat Units====		====Non-Combat Units====

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Unit and Attachement Analysis

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	Stormcrows are medium infantry and can fill gaps in other armies since they have line, ranged and elite infatry, Daario is their commander.		Stormcrows are medium infantry and can fill gaps in other armies since they have line, ranged and elite infatry, Daario is their commander.
	Bloody Mummers only have 2 units, both lightly armored and meant for short engagements, Vargo Hoat is their commander.		Bloody Mummers only have 2 units, both lightly armored and meant for short engagements, Vargo Hoat is their commander.
	Golden Company, boy oh boy these were hyped up way too much, Swordsmen, Crossbowmen and War Elephants are all glorious models but their rules leave a lot to be desired, they ~~dont~~ have a commander yet.		Golden Company, boy oh boy these were hyped up way too much, Swordsmen, Crossbowmen and War Elephants are all glorious models but their rules leave a lot to be desired, they don't have a commander yet.

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	*'''Hedge Knights (7pt):''' Now these guys are a bit of a tricky one, controlling the Bags and Swords makes them resilient as Flayed men and hit harder than Screamers respectively, if you can get some Tactics board control thse guys are worth every penny, they can fill a Heavy Cavalry role in any faction even if they they are mostly outclassed by Flayed Men		*'''Hedge Knights (7pt):''' Now these guys are a bit of a tricky one, controlling the Bags and Swords makes them resilient as Flayed men and hit harder than Screamers respectively, if you can get some Tactics board control thse guys are worth every penny, they can fill a Heavy Cavalry role in any faction even if they they are mostly outclassed by Flayed Men

	*'''Golden Company Swordsmen (7pt):''' I'll be honest with you pal, if they were 3+ armor they'd be good enough, but as it stands they don't pack enough in their kit to make them a particularly attractive choice at their current cost. They're not bad at all but at 7 points you expect a unit that can kick ass and take names and these guys ~~dont~~ have enough offensive or defensive value to compete with the more specialized units in this price range.		*'''Golden Company Swordsmen (7pt):''' I'll be honest with you pal, if they were 3+ armor they'd be good enough, but as it stands they don't pack enough in their kit to make them a particularly attractive choice at their current cost. They're not bad at all but at 7 points you expect a unit that can kick ass and take names and these guys don't have enough offensive or defensive value to compete with the more specialized units in this price range.

	*'''Golden Company Crossbowmen (8pt):''' Crossbowmen make a more compelling argument for themselves, being easily comparable to Lannister Crossbowmen they barely edge out in value by packing Sentinel, letting you maneuver them off of enemy attacks and letting you set up some nasty side or rear attacks, but still at that price range Flayed men, Knights and Honour Guard of Casterly Rock, Cavaliers, Champions of the Stag, are all choices that are just as killy, just as maneuverable and honestly way more resilient.		*'''Golden Company Crossbowmen (8pt):''' Crossbowmen make a more compelling argument for themselves, being easily comparable to Lannister Crossbowmen they barely edge out in value by packing Sentinel, letting you maneuver them off of enemy attacks and letting you set up some nasty side or rear attacks, but still at that price range Flayed men, Knights and Honour Guard of Casterly Rock, Cavaliers, Champions of the Stag, are all choices that are just as killy, just as maneuverable and honestly way more resilient.
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	*'''Stromcrow Lieutenant (1pts):''' Sundering and Highest attack value when controlling the bags. Not stellar but if your army wants the bags then he isnt a bad choice at all, Lannisters and Tyrells can probably make good useof him, Daario Commander can obviously make the most in any case.		*'''Stromcrow Lieutenant (1pts):''' Sundering and Highest attack value when controlling the bags. Not stellar but if your army wants the bags then he isnt a bad choice at all, Lannisters and Tyrells can probably make good useof him, Daario Commander can obviously make the most in any case.

	*'''Bronn (1pt):''' Additional resilience when controlling the Bags and an option for extra attack actions off of the Bags spot, he goes in solid line units or ranged units. Shoring up the defense of ranged units andletting them get more attacks in is one of his specialties, making stuff like Wardens or Rose knights unkillable while letting them Rambo it up with extra attacks will quickly teach your opponent to keep control of the tactics board. ~~Dont~~ sleep on him, if you wanna play around with the bags he is better than the Lieutenant.		*'''Bronn (1pt):''' Additional resilience when controlling the Bags and an option for extra attack actions off of the Bags spot, he goes in solid line units or ranged units. Shoring up the defense of ranged units andletting them get more attacks in is one of his specialties, making stuff like Wardens or Rose knights unkillable while letting them Rambo it up with extra attacks will quickly teach your opponent to keep control of the tactics board. Don't sleep on him, if you wanna play around with the bags he is better than the Lieutenant.

	*'''Jaqen H'ghar (1pt):''' Situational, but in very basic terms in introduces redundancy nto your list by letting you get an attachement back from the dead, whether yours or the enemies once attachements start going the way of the dodo his unit gets versatile. Another notable use is getting your commander back from the dead to keep doing his thing or I dunno bringing back an Expert duelist or Vargo to kick ass from beyond the grave again.		*'''Jaqen H'ghar (1pt):''' Situational, but in very basic terms in introduces redundancy nto your list by letting you get an attachement back from the dead, whether yours or the enemies once attachements start going the way of the dodo his unit gets versatile. Another notable use is getting your commander back from the dead to keep doing his thing or I dunno bringing back an Expert duelist or Vargo to kick ass from beyond the grave again.

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Tactics Deck

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	*'''Surprise Strategy:''' Prolly gonna use it with the Letters spot since its prolly too expensive otherwise, good to get those killer cards back into your hand not bad.		*'''Surprise Strategy:''' Prolly gonna use it with the Letters spot since its prolly too expensive otherwise, good to get those killer cards back into your hand not bad.

	*'''~~Spiols~~ of War:''' One of your units get stonger after the first and second emey unit dies close to them, attach it as soon as you get it not like it'll make your units badasses if they weren't already.		*'''Spoils of War:''' One of your units get stonger after the first and second emey unit dies close to them, attach it as soon as you get it not like it'll make your units badasses if they weren't already.

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

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Tactics

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Cons

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	===Cons===		===Cons===
	*Commanders lean on their subfactions so they need at least a sprinkle of their soldiers to function properly		*Commanders lean on their subfactions so they need at least a sprinkle of their soldiers to function properly
	*Lack of autowounds, besides the Elephant		*Lack of autowounds, besides sorta the Elephant
	*Being Overcosted? Golden company		*Being Overcosted? Golden company

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2022-08-22T20:28:00Z

Tactics Deck

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	General rule of thumbs in ASOIAF Miniature Game is to play your card more often then just keeping them in your hand and combo them if you can to one-shot units.		General rule of thumbs in ASOIAF Miniature Game is to play your card more often then just keeping them in your hand and combo them if you can to one-shot units.
	~~Starks do that not as rigidly as others.~~		In general your Tactics Deck is supplementary to your play style and not the basis, you also lack card draw.
	~~Starks have some very strong card, but some of them have specific conditions.~~
	~~Unlike some other factions you will try to hold unto~~ your ~~cards.~~
	~~But what Starks excel at with their~~ Tactics ~~deck~~ is ~~comboing~~ the ~~fuck out of their~~ card.

	~~In general your Tactics Deck is supplementary~~ to your ~~play style and not the basis~~, you ~~also lack card raw~~		*'''Planning and Insight:''' small bump to offense or defense, get better with Letters or your commander's unit, you'll find a time to use it each turn.
	~~Keep in mind nearly all your card are for getting into combat and then attacking~~, ~~so fuck me~~ you ~~are screwed if~~ you ~~can~~'~~t charge anymore because~~ you ~~are all stuck or just dead~~.
			*'''Adpative Methods:''' Change tokens, or throw tokens from a unit to another if you have the Letters. This lets you bouce a token off one of your units onto your enemy's, changing the toke type to whatever you want, this is a great card if the situation allows for it.

	*'''~~Winter is coming~~:''' ~~One of~~ your ~~best card. Charging~~ and ~~turning off tactics card and orders is in certain scenario a killer~~. ~~Use this card later in the turn, so he'll won't have~~ a ~~chance to~~ use ~~his tactics card (and~~ order~~) later in the same turn~~, ~~this way that card will continue shitting up his hand. The additional effect is useful, but not required. Decide based on your target~~.		*'''Issue Commands:''' Is your commander sitting alone on an objective and would thus waste their actvation? Isuue Commands. Do you want a second use of a sweet order like Sentinel, Spread Fear or Charging volley? Issue Commands.

	*'''~~Northern Ferocity~~:''' ~~Good effect, use it often, there isn't really a point in keeping it for longer, you don't have a unit who immensely profits from it.~~		*'''Worth the Risk:''' Morale Re-roll or autopass if close to your commander. Solid against panic heavy armies.

	*'''~~The North remembers~~:''' ~~One of your best cards. Holy crap this is good~~, ~~but don't fall into~~ the ~~trap~~ of ~~it. You may hold unto it too long, and gain nothing by it, and secondly keep in mind the effect. You have to have~~ a ~~unit having activated, and throwing away unit might not be worth it~~ if ~~the other unit won't help~~ you ~~win~~ the ~~game~~. ~~Usually wolves are sacrificed but make sure it is worth it~~		*'''Meticulous Planning:''' More commander Cards, either at the end of a round or during a turn if you have the Letters, good if your commander has good cards.

	*'''~~Devastating Impact~~:''' ~~Another one of your homerun cards. Don't be~~ too ~~obvious while using it~~, ~~and more importantly don't overcommit~~ your ~~charges and get dog pilled~~.		*'''Surprise Strategy:''' Prolly gonna use it with the Letters spot since its prolly too expensive otherwise, good to get those killer cards back into your hand not bad.

	*'''~~Swift Advance~~:''' ~~I know I sound like a hype man, but damn this is a good card. Use it to either make it to their flank or~~ get ~~closer~~		*'''Spiols of War:''' One of your units get stonger after the first and second emey unit dies close to them, attach it as soon as you get it not like it'll make your units badasses if they weren't already.

	*'''Sudden Charge:''' Another charge card, now you know the ~~problem I have with everything being about 1 thing. It's good, use this NCU~~ to ~~claim the Horse spot~~, ~~then trigger this card (but see below). You usually can use~~ it ~~best by keeping~~ it in your ~~hand, use 1 turn to set up the motions. But keep in mind,~~ if ~~your first activation is claiming horse then your opponent is free to just take swords, getting a free attack in~~.

	*'''Direwolf's Fervor:''' Honestly meh, just use it ASAP unless you really want those d3 autowounds

	==Tactics==		==Tactics==

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Building your Army

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	In general you want around 9+ activation in your army. Use wolves to pad your force. Most everyone wants 3 NCU, and for you 3 NCU means you have 1 more cheap activation, and you don't have to waste a NCU for a slot you usually ignore. But because of your wolves, you can easily ignore going 3 NCU's if you want to stuff up the table. You generally play more attachment then most factions due to your wolves and because of your good 2-3 point attachements. Get to the activation count you want, then start filling out your points with attachement.		In general you want around 9+ activation in your army. Use wolves to pad your force. Most everyone wants 3 NCU, and for you 3 NCU means you have 1 more cheap activation, and you don't have to waste a NCU for a slot you usually ignore. But because of your wolves, you can easily ignore going 3 NCU's if you want to stuff up the table. You generally play more attachment then most factions due to your wolves and because of your good 2-3 point attachements. Get to the activation count you want, then start filling out your points with attachement.

	~~You don't have enough tools to weaken the enemy counter attack, so you need to have your army take out the enemy forces first, so fast and hard hitting units are good.~~

	~~Running either/both Beserker and/or Greataxes is probably a good idea.~~

	~~Sample List:~~

	~~Commander: Robb Stark – The Wolf Lord~~

	~~Combat Units:~~

	~~• House Umber Berserkers (7) with Robb Stark – The Wolf Lord (0)~~

	~~• Grey Wind (0)~~

	~~• House Umber Greataxes (7) with Bran and Hodor – Protector and Ward (2)~~

	~~• Summer (0)~~

	~~• Stark Sworn Swords (5) with Sworn Sword Captain (1)~~

	~~• Stark Outriders (7)~~

	~~Non-Combat Units:~~

	~~• Sansa Stark – Little Bird (3)~~

	~~• Rodrik Cassel – Combat Veteran (4)~~

	~~• Catelyn Stark – Lady of Winterfell (4)~~

	==Tactics Deck==		==Tactics Deck==