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2023-05-01T04:01:37Z

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Allied Armies

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	*'''Kruleboyz:''' The Marshcrawla Sloggoth is an absolutely amazing ally with a permanent +1 to hit on an extremely forgiving aura range for '''friendly''' units. Doubly nice for Troggoths, where the Sloggoth's aura combines fantastically with the Instinctive Leader command ability of the Troggboss for Troggoth's hitting on 2's, rerolling 1's. Actually makes the Troggoths sound pretty good.		*'''Kruleboyz:''' The Marshcrawla Sloggoth is an absolutely amazing ally with a permanent +1 to hit on an extremely forgiving aura range for '''friendly''' units. Doubly nice for Troggoths, where the Sloggoth's aura combines fantastically with the Instinctive Leader command ability of the Troggboss for Troggoth's hitting on 2's, rerolling 1's. Actually makes the Troggoths sound pretty good.
	**Breakboss on Mirebrute Troggoth is also worth a look. It has the Troggoth keyword, so the Troggbosses Instinctive Leader ability works with it. Combine this with the Marshcrawla +1 to hit aura and Finest Hour and you'll be hitting on 2s rerolling 1s, wounding on 2s, -2 rend, 3 damage on 4 attacks up to 10 if you use the Breakabosses ability that lets you add attacks in exchange for mortal wounds to itself. This isnt even including the riders attacks, who also benefits from all the buffs.Though ultimately his 5 inch move may be to slow, when all the other Troggs have a 6 inch move.		**Breakboss on Mirebrute Troggoth is also worth a look. It has the Troggoth keyword, so the Troggbosses Instinctive Leader ability works with it. Combine this with the Marshcrawla +1 to hit aura and Finest Hour and you'll be hitting on 2s rerolling 1s, wounding on 2s, -2 rend, 3 damage on 4 attacks up to 10 if you use the Breakabosses ability that lets you add attacks in exchange for mortal wounds to itself. This isnt even including the riders attacks, who also benefits from all the buffs.Though ultimately his 5 inch move may be to slow, when all the other Troggs have a 6 inch move.
	**Killaboss on Corpserippa Vulcha is another interesting choice. On paper, he helps solve 3 of the weaknesses that a pure Trogg list has. He's very mobile, with 14inch flying. He's a monster so he counts for 10 on objectives, objective play is something Troggs struggle with. He can give the same command ability twice a turn. Troggs ~~dont~~ have unit champions and they arent elite. They are entirely reliant on your heroes to issue commands to them. Killaboss on Vulture can help with that by issuing All Out Attack or Defense twice.		**Killaboss on Corpserippa Vulcha is another interesting choice. On paper, he helps solve 3 of the weaknesses that a pure Trogg list has. He's very mobile, with 14inch flying. He's a monster so he counts for 10 on objectives, objective play is something Troggs struggle with. He can give the same command ability twice a turn. Troggs don't have unit champions and they arent elite. They are entirely reliant on your heroes to issue commands to them. Killaboss on Vulture can help with that by issuing All Out Attack or Defense twice.

	*'''Greenskinz:''' Has better archers, cavalry with constant movement. Sadly the Rogue Idol (which improves nearby grot's casting rolls and bravery by 1) is too expensive at 420 pts.		*'''Greenskinz:''' Has better archers, cavalry with constant movement. Sadly the Rogue Idol (which improves nearby grot's casting rolls and bravery by 1) is too expensive at 420 pts.

1d4chan>GreySeerCriak: /* MOONCLAN GROT */

2023-02-10T15:49:10Z

MOONCLAN GROT

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	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Loonboss_with_Giant_Squig.pdf Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig]:''' (110pts) The good old [[Skarsnik]] model reborn as a Loonboss. Allows for Squig battleline.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Loonboss_with_Giant_Squig.pdf Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig]:''' (110pts) The good old [[Skarsnik]] model reborn as a Loonboss. Allows for Squig battleline.
	**Gains two wounds and a 6+ ward save, but has a 5+ save instead over the regular Loonboss.		**Gains two wounds and a 6+ ward save, but has a 5+ save instead over the regular Loonboss.
	**His weapon has better ~~melee attacks~~ than the ~~on foot Loonboss~~, and the Squig adds another bunch of attacks and the potential to instantly kill a model at the end of combat phase.		**His weapon has a better stat line than the other guy, and the Squig adds another bunch of attacks and the potential to instantly kill a model at the end of combat phase.
	**In contrast to his ~~footslogging~~ counterpart, this guy acts as a Gobbo Commissar, using threats of violence to inspire the grots in his command. You can sic the Giant Squig on a group of Grots to deal D3 mortal wounds, and they gain 3 to their bravery for each wound suffered.		**In contrast to his counterpart, this guy acts as a Gobbo Commissar, using threats of violence to inspire the grots in his command. You can sic the Giant Squig on a group of Grots to deal D3 mortal wounds, and they gain 3 to their bravery for each wound suffered.

	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Madcap_Shaman.pdf Madcap Shaman]:''' (80pts) Regular small wizard.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Madcap_Shaman.pdf Madcap Shaman]:''' (80pts) Regular small wizard.

1d4chan>GreySeerCriak: /* MOONCLAN GROT */

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MOONCLAN GROT

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	**Generally best used along side hordes of Stabbas to help them dish out more damage, or babysitting the Shootas to help defend them in melee.		**Generally best used along side hordes of Stabbas to help them dish out more damage, or babysitting the Shootas to help defend them in melee.

	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Loonboss_with_Giant_Squig.pdf Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig]:''' (~~100pts~~) The good old [[Skarsnik]] model reborn as a Loonboss.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Loonboss_with_Giant_Squig.pdf Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig]:''' (110pts) The good old [[Skarsnik]] model reborn as a Loonboss. Allows for Squig battleline.
	**~~Exactly the same abilities as~~ the Loonboss~~, but for those 30 extra points you get better attacking and opens up battleline options~~.		**Gains two wounds and a 6+ ward save, but has a 5+ save instead over the regular Loonboss.
	**His weapon has ~~similar~~ melee attacks as the Loonboss, ~~but also has a 14inch shooting attack with D6 attacks. Presumably said attack is him either shooting green lasers ala Skarsnik or just yeeting~~ the ~~thing and summoning it back to him like Thor.~~		**His weapon has better melee attacks than the on foot Loonboss, and the Squig adds another bunch of attacks and the potential to instantly kill a model at the end of combat phase.
	**The Squig adds another bunch of attacks.		**In contrast to his footslogging counterpart, this guy acts as a Gobbo Commissar, using threats of violence to inspire the grots in his command. You can sic the Giant Squig on a group of Grots to deal D3 mortal wounds, and they gain 3 to their bravery for each wound suffered.
	**~~FAQ states this counts as a Squig Mounted~~, ~~allowing Squig Hoppers as battleline when you take~~ this guy as ~~your General.~~
	**Essentially a ~~Loonboss on foot +1~~. ~~If you~~ can ~~spare~~ the ~~points he's just better at everything (except for their identical command abilities) than the regular Loonboss. Provides~~ a ~~nice midpoint between {{AOSKeyword\|moonclan grot}} and {{AOSKeyword\|squig}} lists~~, and ~~let's you have a wide variety of battleline options~~ for ~~cheap.~~
	**An especially good strategy for this guy is the Command Trait “Tough ‘n Leathery” and “The Clammy Cowl” Artefact. Prepare to watch Skarsnik be reincarnated as he dodges all manner of attacks that make a lesser <strike>goblin warlord</strike> Loonboss shit themselves.

	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Madcap_Shaman.pdf Madcap Shaman]:''' (80pts) Regular small wizard.		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Madcap_Shaman.pdf Madcap Shaman]:''' (80pts) Regular small wizard.

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	*Our armor saves are pretty weak overall, and in general our defense is poor. It's easy to get little to no armor save and lose a bunch of models, and then lose a bunch more to our terrible leadership. We've also got nearly no protection from mortal wounds.		*Our armor saves are pretty weak overall, and in general our defense is poor. It's easy to get little to no armor save and lose a bunch of models, and then lose a bunch more to our terrible leadership. We've also got nearly no protection from mortal wounds.
	*We rely a lot on RNGesus.		*We rely a lot on RNGesus.
	*Some of the models are a little old. Good luck in getting the finecast Scuttleboss to hold together~~. Heck, the Slaves of Darkness got updated minotaur models before us because GW still thinks Beasts aren't allowed to have nice things~~.		*Some of the models are a little old. Good luck in getting the finecast Scuttleboss to hold together.
	*At this point it's inevitable that we bring up that Gloomspite Gitz are outgunned and outmanned on basically everything. There isn't a single thing Gloomspite Gitz can do that another army can't do better, and cheaper. We're the weakest army in the game, losing out to Nighthaunt and Beasts of Chaos. Hopefully a new book fixes this but the current edition is against us in several ways.		*At this point it's inevitable that we bring up that Gloomspite Gitz are outgunned and outmanned on basically everything. There isn't a single thing Gloomspite Gitz can do that another army can't do better, and cheaper. We're the weakest army in the game, losing out to Nighthaunt and Beasts of Chaos. Hopefully a new book fixes this but the current edition is against us in several ways.
	**With the introduction of Reinforcement Points, we can no longer bring endless hordes, and have to settle for one or two big units, and then a bunch of minimum size stuff. In 2nd edition we relied on everything getting reinforced at least once in order to have any real impact, and now we can't rely on that.		**With the introduction of Reinforcement Points, we can no longer bring endless hordes, and have to settle for one or two big units, and then a bunch of minimum size stuff. In 2nd edition we relied on everything getting reinforced at least once in order to have any real impact, and now we can't rely on that.

1d4chan>SIRUNKLYDUNK: /* Cons */

2023-01-21T00:27:31Z

Cons

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	*Our armor saves are pretty weak overall, and in general our defense is poor. It's easy to get little to no armor save and lose a bunch of models, and then lose a bunch more to our terrible leadership. We've also got nearly no protection from mortal wounds.		*Our armor saves are pretty weak overall, and in general our defense is poor. It's easy to get little to no armor save and lose a bunch of models, and then lose a bunch more to our terrible leadership. We've also got nearly no protection from mortal wounds.
	*We rely a lot on RNGesus.		*We rely a lot on RNGesus.
	*Some of the models are a little old. Good luck in getting the finecast Scuttleboss to hold together.		*Some of the models are a little old. Good luck in getting the finecast Scuttleboss to hold together. Heck, the Slaves of Darkness got updated minotaur models before us because GW still thinks Beasts aren't allowed to have nice things.
	*At this point it's inevitable that we bring up that Gloomspite Gitz are outgunned and outmanned on basically everything. There isn't a single thing Gloomspite Gitz can do that another army can't do better, and cheaper. We're the weakest army in the game, losing out to Nighthaunt and Beasts of Chaos. Hopefully a new book fixes this but the current edition is against us in several ways.		*At this point it's inevitable that we bring up that Gloomspite Gitz are outgunned and outmanned on basically everything. There isn't a single thing Gloomspite Gitz can do that another army can't do better, and cheaper. We're the weakest army in the game, losing out to Nighthaunt and Beasts of Chaos. Hopefully a new book fixes this but the current edition is against us in several ways.
	**With the introduction of Reinforcement Points, we can no longer bring endless hordes, and have to settle for one or two big units, and then a bunch of minimum size stuff. In 2nd edition we relied on everything getting reinforced at least once in order to have any real impact, and now we can't rely on that.		**With the introduction of Reinforcement Points, we can no longer bring endless hordes, and have to settle for one or two big units, and then a bunch of minimum size stuff. In 2nd edition we relied on everything getting reinforced at least once in order to have any real impact, and now we can't rely on that.

1d4chan>PDThePowerDragon: /* Pros */

2022-12-05T15:52:30Z

Pros

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	*Multiple ways to debuff the enemy's to-hit rolls. There's so many ways to hand out penalties to hit, you can protect your squishy goblins a little longer. Sadly we can't stack them the way we used to, but at least the enemy can't throw bonuses to hit as easily either.		*Multiple ways to debuff the enemy's to-hit rolls. There's so many ways to hand out penalties to hit, you can protect your squishy goblins a little longer. Sadly we can't stack them the way we used to, but at least the enemy can't throw bonuses to hit as easily either.
	*You want to play as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DJmp21vcQ David Bowie in Labyrinth].		*You want to play as [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6DJmp21vcQ David Bowie in Labyrinth].
			*The Range of models is mostly plastic, the battleline options are simple and monochromatic for new painters. And there's a lot of great minis to learn on. If you're someone who enjoys hobby, crazy looking miniatures, and messing around with shading there's a lot that is available for you to use here. Washes and dry brushes go especially well for squigs, the loonshrine, and Troggoth.
			*Praise the Bad Moon! We will finally be getting a battletome update!

	===Cons===		===Cons===

1d4chan>Gbc343: /* SPIDERFANG */

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SPIDERFANG

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	**These are your true Light Cavalry. In a non-spiderfang-only list, these are great for harassing a flank or bothering a hero, or maybe just charging up the board to get to the war machines. The biggest difference between the Squig Hopperz and the Spider Riderz is that the Spider Riderz have a ranged attack, potential for mortals, a better armor save, and more reliable movement, but the Squig Hopperz are going to be much faster on average, have real flight instead of the semi-flight spiders get, and two of the Squig attacks have Rend making them slightly more reliable for piercing light to medium armor.		**These are your true Light Cavalry. In a non-spiderfang-only list, these are great for harassing a flank or bothering a hero, or maybe just charging up the board to get to the war machines. The biggest difference between the Squig Hopperz and the Spider Riderz is that the Spider Riderz have a ranged attack, potential for mortals, a better armor save, and more reliable movement, but the Squig Hopperz are going to be much faster on average, have real flight instead of the semi-flight spiders get, and two of the Squig attacks have Rend making them slightly more reliable for piercing light to medium armor.

	*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Arachnarok_Spider_with_Spiderfang_Warparty.pdf Arachnarok Spider with Spiderfang Warparty]:''' (220pts) <span style="color:#8B0000;"> Battleline with Spiderfang General.</span>		*'''[https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Warscrolls/AoS_Gloomspite_Gitz_WSCards_Arachnarok_Spider_with_Spiderfang_Warparty.pdf Arachnarok Spider with Spiderfang Warparty]:''' (220pts) <span style="color:#8B0000;"> Battleline with Spiderfang General.</span> Huge spider covered with people. Loses the ambush ability, but gets 10 shooting attacks and the ability to reroll run and charge rolls, plus dealing D3 mortal wounds on a 2+ roll after charging. Finally giving you a reason to take this over the one with Shaman.
	Huge spider covered with people. Loses the ambush ability, but gets 10 shooting attacks and the ability to reroll run and charge rolls, plus dealing D3 mortal wounds on a 2+ roll after charging. Finally giving you a reason to take this over the one with Shaman.

	<big>'''Behemoths'''</big>		<big>'''Behemoths'''</big>